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yea if you dont have consistent power / internet its not a good idea to sabotage peoples times until the rating per round changes comes through next week
imo
Holy shit you guys are missing the point. It's OK.
He can't help it though
he cant help it but his teamates cant help it either rn
and his teamates get punished so
I understand that but if he left because of things he cant control then it is what it is
At least it's not he left on purpose
ye just gonna be less lame when that happens once people get rating per round
instead end of match
all im saying
Ye
I didn't leave. I just said I lost power 3x in the past month due to the record-breaking weather, and I wouldn't want to lose 500 CR for that.
yeye i understand
If it was "predictable" or known ahead of time that it would happen, I wouldn't queue. Pretty obvious to all...... since the penalty WOULD apply and I would lose CR.
It's something you cant control
its something you cant control but i would still roll my eyes after sitting a 2 hour queue and that happens to my teamate
and i get nothing for the match lmao
I now have 2x UPS for my computer and my router. But most of the world isn't in that situation.
Again, fuck intentional leavers. But it's something they have to consider.
if they had any grace for that kind of stuff people would still abuse it
which is the problem
when people leave in league matches now, their teamates get loss mitigations which would be a nice touch for shuffle too
Yeah I mean, let's not forget the way they're handling it now is stupid.
Lol power/internet outages are unfortunate but there's nothing they can do to different from a regular leaver
So it's on you to make sure it doesn't happen or just deal with the consequences when it does
I've queued 15 times, waiting hours combined to have someone leave in round 6 because they're losing... to get 0 score. That's dumb and could be (and will be) at least mitigated.
Wow
Burst
Ignore pain to survive until next burst
Burst again
u dont realize
Not on the patch notes
Are they adding ignore pain?
To arms?
If it's not in the patch notes it didn't happen.
HahHHHH
Didn't both shp and rogue get buffed
Did you see spriest buffs?
ye but the guy who writes the wowhead guides
posted it
Source ?
Crazy that they are buffing spriest damage across the board
look in #arms
You can really tell they're not paying any attention to pvp
I think that’s from previous buffs?
10.0.5
fuck I hope this is real
🙏
Yeah it looks like it’s just updated tooltips?
I mean it would be nuts if spriest got buffed again
Sorry on my work PC but discord on phone
oh fuck
Oh man. That's huge. We will win bigly. We may get so tired of winning and will be screaming to make it stop. We won't be able to take all the winning
What’s that 10000 value mean?
your CR after patch
I cant forgive you
hopefully this patch doesn't take long to go live
its coming 10.0.5
lol
stormwall is garbage lmao
Mud you are slow
bruh, i would love to have ignore pain T.T
Was posted already here
yes ignore pain better
And already being debated in arms channel too
ofc but why we have to lose it?
@scarlet barn i just woke up from a nap and was spam pinged
Yes
now. shut. up.
Why do u think it's only tooltip updates?
Mind flay, devouring plague, mind spike, mind blast all get a rather large damage buff. And they buffed multidotting by adding mindgames, mind spike, void bolt, and void torment to that AOE talent they have. Not sure if spriest even takes that though.
Unless those were hot fixed in
Already
Because it is useless
That’s what I mean
They looked like it was hot fixed in earlier
It would be nuts if spriest got buffed again lol
Mud what char is that
Oh good, we can now survive 5 secs of being focused now
imagine if they buff d stance as well lol
Wondering if that's your ptr copied char or like a lvl 30 char
20k doesn't seem like a lot
who ready
It's an 11 second cd... On top of what war already has
im fkn unhinged rn
for sin to have an aoe heal absorb
Yep
also this is really funny
scales with main stat and versa usually
outlaw having a 2s 65% wall
Which isn't much lol
I wonder what the final amount will be
I mean dh has one thing and there's nonstop bitching about them so 🤔
Dh has multiple means
And going into the air
where the patch notes
Great
ignore pain back is nice but don't get too crazy, brutal vitality conduit not baked into it so not going to be like in SL where you pop that shit it and its the entire duration. Still nice tho
Well if you want to count a dh jump as a dmg reduction then warrior has 2 charges to the healer plus intervene to your own healer plus heroic leap
How is charging the healer damage reduction lol
Puts distance between you and the DPS just like a dh jumping in the air would...
Because it looks cool
Pretty simple concept
Do it all the time
Ret pallies rage so hard when it happens
Can't believe that they're bringing ignore pain back and you bitches are still crying about this change
screw you
Which doesn't absolve you from damage.
give me link to the notes pls
0s CD or we riot
where do they even publsih this
HELL YEA HMEAKE IT LIKE PROT
Take away Slam idk
id give away both slam and whirlwind for 0 CD off GCD ignore pain
liek in prot
- shield wall
Like very other fkn class in the game
Lmao that's what I'm saying. I said dh has blur and nether walk as damage reduction and that's it. And youre the one who said "derp they can jump on the air too!!"
why am I not seeing it anywhere?
Sundowner respecced Arms here
Datamined, not a blue post yet
Jumping in the air prevents being attacked by melee. Charging the healer does not.
Yes it does lol kiting is 100% damage reduction
btw DHs can fly up in the air trough our Spear and in every time we cast it
So whats the fkn point
Avatar reducing damage taken by 10% aswell now, they are clearly trying to make arms better but they don't like a permanent reduce like d stance
Of retris bubble
Melee kiting melee kek
ferals just kite u
In what world does a warrior kite a DH
TSG stonks up @elfin surge
1200 rating brainlet doesn't know you can kite every single melee as war except for maybe monk
what you mean with MMR change? 😄
And pigs fly
people will lose mmr when they leave shuffle on wednesday
instead of just cr
playing 2v2 with ret
should i use roar or spear?
Tell me all you do in arena is charge a DPS and tunnel vision them without telling me all you do in arena is charge a DPS and tunnel vision them
How do you know!?
Where are these notes?
scroll up?
Tell me you play a DH without telling me
No
I believe these are ptr datamined which is 10.0.5, slated to come out mid to late jan
Would be absolutely kino
Are they really buffing DH? Looks like they are
What the FUCK
So really a nerf in that sense
More leech too?
yeah leech and soulrend damage nerf
Should probably still adjust last tick of blade dance damage
where you guys seeing the datamined notes?
wowhead
got a link?
ty my dude
Can someone explain
Are those buffs on spriest already implement
As hotfixes
Or is that buff coming through in 10.0.5
This is so sweet I can’t wait for Ignore penis
Shadowpriest is an Egyptian god card
Arms or fury or both?
?? this resto shaman who is 1.8k CR in my solo shuffle game just got Legend title??
"Win 100 Rated Solo Shuffle rounds while at Elite rank during Dragonflight Season 1."
NGL, giving IP to arms will kill fury
If you have 2400 cr or whatever the threshold is
I don't think this is going to revive smf
You can swap specs and get wins for the title
it better not after wasting so muchc on weapons
Look at the leadboard. Arm’s already dominant over fury
Yeah it's retarded lol. Prob got 2400 as ele and is getting the wins as resto for faster queues
didnt even know this was fucking nerfed in the first place
they should just get rid of all modifiers and make a full reset between expansions
idk
so for dev DH is ok and they need a the hunt buff
you mean like they do with rogue and accidentally give them one-shots for weeks every expansion?
none of the DH changes were even in the main notes, so not added yet or they were tooltip changes
They must have a DH main jacking off to pvp leadboards
This rogue did like 200k damage in less than 2 seconds to a dh yesterday
Secret technique
we lose like nothing getting to play bleeds now
arms got ignore pain now?
flex point being bloodletting which is nerfed in pvp being able to be put in unhinged or 1 point in critcal thinking
made a rogue myself but my head is full of rocks so I can't figure it out
dh just spaming glaive everywhere then when some1 is 50 % stun and press the hunt
they all have the same gameplay
It will soon check latest wowhead notes
I don’t see it in the notes
got so bonked only won 1 game in this SS vs DH DK and Retri
But ppl said it’s in game on ptr?
im getting done with ss though
Check these out from yesterday...
think till the patch i just dont wanna play anymore
Not winning hurts my ego
Stop being a pussy and just leave matches
Fuk i was hoping to be 39th
i refuse to be such a persone
Why do they say "While Methamorphsis is active"
280k fire breath and deep breath? from a devoker
Thank you for the masturbatory material Hyperion
wait what
I didn’t see that in the notes
yes, that 100% or you know xD a option saying i dont wanna fight this class like in bg's with i dont want this map
Imagine not taking any capstones 🤦♂️
You can just take sharpened blades for the MS damage back, they're taking out the talent too so you will have a point to spend on it
It's not gone it's baked in
I'd rather get butfkt by 5 frostmages than see another DH again
Funny thing is they are garbage 1v1 in open world
i legit saw a dh in my lobby 1K9 MMR 4-2
i dont even talk about his 2S 1K4 Rate after 100 Matches
they are all fkn ELF but idk thic skin I guess
if they nerf dh defensives maybe its ok
People keep saying this like it makes sense. Compared to right now, where we take improved MS, we will have 5% less MS damage in 10.0.5. Is the end result the same MS damage as it was before our last tuning? yes. Still doesn't mean it's not quite literally gone, the baseline 5% MS buff is already in the game on live
Arent these patch notes buffs
how some evoker got 2K + rating i didnt see anyone in 115 match
heloooooo ?
SP DH WAR Lock only
like 90 % of my games
Cracked rogues are insane to play against in ss
Thankfully there aren't many of them
jeez had to scroll trough so many L specs to get to warr notes
Any1 elce still undecided if arms or fury? 😦
rogue are tunneling healer i kinda blow them up
disarm on garrote
they just have to nerf dh mastery by 30 %
then the Q is 30 min longer
- ban the leaver so maybe 1 hour longer now
id legit pay to delete DHs from the game and my brain
maybe ill get a lobotomy kekw
how good is ignore pain for arms
i legit didnt want to play dh cause afraidn of nerf hammer
Feel like devoker gonna pump
XDDDDD HOW CRINGE IS THAT
just for you
They already pump and buffs across the board
ty
I played vs one earlier that just straight up was nuking the entire lobby every round
It died pretty easy but the dmg is legit
🤣
Look at my screenshot above.. this evoker did like 260k damage in 2 seconds
Holy based
Effectively a 30% damage reduction considering your health of 330k or so
Yea
Wtf
I did not see the loss of the 5% MS talent removal...that is going to hurt.
i think its bugged
normal ignore pain is 53k but if i spam it, it stacks the previous one.
capping 2x
Beautiful. No, working as intended.
Only bug is that it has an 11s cd
Dont gotta tell me, the dude i played with was crazy
Just shitting out unhealable dmg till it flopped
53k ignore pain seems too good
why did they buff stam in the game
We tried to train him one round (me and a dh) and it was impossible to stick on him
only for ppl to geth OHKO the same xd
I dont think you train them
I think you swap on em and they just die
we deserve it after 1 month of not being s tier
should absorb 200k imo
Like hed be 60-70% from cleave then just spear and kill it
Absolutely
To clarify, that's how regular ignore pain works on prot if I'm not mistaken
Shhhh
why do non paladins have immunity anyway
Lmao yes dude!
soon people will whine and it will be nerfed by next week kek faster than any other class getting nerfed
Wonder why people are so aggressive about warriors being strong but fall silent whenever it's anyone else
Yeah it has really proliferated in an obscene way.
Warlock doesn't have an immunity too though, along with shaman
Nerf every class buff only woyer!!!
its bugged lmao. Prot IP has no cd. The arms one has a 11 sec cd and lasts for 11 seconds. but bugs out and stacks the previous one if you spam it.
No they’re dirty magic users
Sound like Yoko Ono when we charge
Heresy I say
Interesting. Thought it would be longer duration than the cd
Literally everywhere you go is non-stop complaining about DH right now (rightfully so). That's a crazy victim complex you got there
I want to participate in a woyer only bg
Everyone would be Perma rooted by warbringer
If warrior was as strong as DH right now, do you think people would still whine at all about DH?
because that's what i'm talking about.
I mean spriest is arguably stronger than dh and gets a lot of flack along with dh
I alt f4 everytime a DH kils me
Yes? There is tons of complaining about spriest, sin rogues, demo locks, ele shamans are starting to get noticed, very few people talking about how OP arms and fury are atm
I'll repeat, crazy victim complex you got there
because we aren't as OP as them.
wish they had an option to hide elves
No shit sherlock, that's besides the point
Ya and dracthyr. This furry shit is getting out of hand
No it's not. It's literally my point that when all things are even, warrior gets MORE complaints. Things aren't even right now.
Bro someone in here legit plays pandaren female warrior
Idk how to walk you through this one chief
T^T
Same way melee gets more complaints than casters
In the notes release today they removed a lot of the Spriests healing from spells and instead gave them baseline leech and increase spell power...not excited to face SPriests currently
But even when warriors aren't that great
Prob that furry guy
arent warrior pandaren just monks
They are still one of, if not the, most popular classes in the entire game in PvP and have been since the beginning of the game
Ofc they are going to catch more flak, you play against one every other game
Yeah but in Vanilla leveling a warrior was legitimately slave labor
^
Ah yes, thats relevant
thats why we should be a hero class
What do you get…when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash!? I'll tell you what you get...You get a fukin Arms warr!
Now it's pure joy
Lmao honestly it is. Especially as fury.
mortal strike lowkey OHKO in low level BGs
Levelling my kultiran warrior I sat 10-60 with a pure grin on my face the entire ride
it feels like mortal strike
❤️
Playing fury feels like firing a 50cal machine gun
Low lvl bgs are cancer filled with max lvl people level syncing
Really annoying
except u one shot them with enchanted heirlooms and gemmed TBC gear
xdxd
pop HoA and Legion Artficats on them
avg SS experience
upcoming reset fixes it
Feed them a win or two
It's the only way
I just want a win for the week so I can upgrade my new shit 😄
This poor poor resto druid got farmed last night and evoker convinced us to give him the wind on round 5 so he didn't leave
Solo Shuffle is turning out to be way more political and social engineering'y than I would ever have expected
Yeah usually I like to mislead my teammates since they'll be enemies next round
Not sure if it works but it does in my head
Never be afraid to ask how to play solo shuffle first round
sit in dstance and stack death wish
then just pop off
that's two globals
I'm not worried, the rest of outlaw is crap
yeah rogue unplayble
😂
outlaw is good thats the funny part
assa for brawler and sub for playmaker. Outlaw for braindamage and memes to feel special
its only gonna get better once more people have tier
outlaw is the brawler
you good
assa been the braindam spec
half the assa players cant even watch their own kidney dr
assa is the good feral
assa is pretty much the fury spec for rogue
Assa is literally feral but better damage
uhh
with the same damage profile
I'm not making any statement about which spec is better
yes feral dam bad
No cause I already spent my cq on 2h
real bad
pls buff
here we go again
best ive seen was 65k dps
can I please just fucking play 1 full game
in a 4 min game
Full Haste gear for pvp since I was fury but decided to change to arms and realise you need full crit, should I start changing gear over boys or stay full Haste?
Bro feral damage is fucking insane. And I'm not even really sure how to stop it
Rip is bugged and deals full damage to pets. Demo has a lot of ______
Also they have cyclone
fill out blanks
Hey. You could always use smf in quick mode if it makes you feel better
i’ve seen ferals at 2.3
not clone once in 3mins
good ones will just clone you low
clone is damage loss
No.
or on your wall
Clone is busted spell seriously op
Dh nerf on the ptr rn bless
Is that why??
did they nerf dh?
yes, that's why they look good on details
40% leech nerf, 17% glaive dot nerf
When is 10.0.5 coming?
They going from 20% to 12% leech an actual real nerf
before spring.
they need to nerf the mastery
so is bursting into wall
50% more dmg on the hunt dot
Well yeah they still have to give zoomers their free 2400
its not even a meme
DH does too much damage imo. Double other melee in rbg except UH Dk
they rlly got 2K +
clone is literally walling their own damage
with no xp
Even more so. I think I need a weak auras for the hunt to horn at me so I can spell reflect it everytime I hear it
there's a time and place for it, unlike our cc
Never played dh in arena in my life, last night I got 1850 in 5 solo shuffles
just spear them during their cast and bunny hop around them
If I keep playing I honestly think 2400 would be a joke
2k aint much
yeah i got 1K9 on my monk but now im stuck
Some dude was doing like 60k dps earlier
Was like 70% rip
Love that
Does rip stack or something now
rip deals full damage to pets so it looks really big in games with pets.
i literally q’ed arms dh my first week of pvp in demonic
and we almost gibbed 80% of teams in opening battlecry
True i was on my demo lock
keybind port
wild 500 cr increase
i take too much damage from melee the just tunnel me xd
Anyone can help with gearing priority for fresh arms please? Got like 5k honor to spend for start. Not sure what to take first. Thanks
they *
you have to kite
im totally new to this class need to practise
below 2k you win by 2nd legsweep
trinket set -> weapon -> jewelry -> any piece without vers -> any piece without haste/mast/crit whichever you want
because everyone trades too much
ez target
for first keefers
thank you!
how is this undergeared
i got 2.1 with 328k hp
Did spriest get nerf?

most ppl have 2 Part and like 380K hp a more poly
and *
and you bette than me
probably
i mean you’re making excuses
learn to port
thats monk basics to living always
pre ring goes
dont know how but im constantly breaking even on 3 wins D
arms need it
How hard does Arms dmg spike with weapon upgrade? My MS is only hitting for 80k max
big spikes
Holy shit the arms tree looks so fucking good on ptr now
you can actually get everything that's important
the one true macro
/cast mortal strike
/cast ignore pain
Also, do you guys insta cancel your bladestorm you proc from avatar on spear go or let it rip for unhinged procs first
legendary macro
I hate unhinged
one macro to rule them all
But if youre playing it i wouldnt cancel it
you can also spec hurricane vs pet classes
which is still insane with bladestorm pvp talent
But I think it's slightly nerfed in pvp right
I haven’t tried the bleed build yet, shit didn’t look appealing to me tbh
rend got nerfed too hard for bleed build to be really impactful I think
With the removed modifier on sweeping strikes I can see unhinged getting stronger, no?
You can just not play unhinged and grab bs
it's more deep wounds doing dam with thunderous roar with bleed build
Use the reck proc
rend is just there because it's more efficient to press than slam
And put the extra point into executioner
What are peoples thoughts on improved MS being gutted
you'll have executioner anyway in 10.5
True
you can spec pretty much anything
Guess I should start playing more arms…
If only @elfin surge would upload the tech on his YouTube but all I see is fury 
Nice
Cocksuckers pushing imp slam on us
Nice now I won’t be upset every time I forget to press rend on people
Guys what enchants do you have on your fury weapons?
A) Double Sophic
B) Double Frozen
C) One each
D) Something other combination (say it)
Button is legit just a flacid boner
oh man, guess i should start buying arms piece...wasted 3600 conquest on mastery weapons ffs.
Its actually sad that you need like 7 slam modifiers for it to do the same damage as in the last expansions
I'm friggin excited for this patch
we can even build unhinged fatality on ptr
better come quick
its fucking insane
bring back condemn
If i played fury id use double frozen devo
Double frozen for fury iirc
Dmg is actually pretty high
Lmao someone in here was laughing at me when I said you can kite melee. It's so easy as warrior to do it. But ppl just zug and expect to win (admittedly works a lot)
@wheat crane @dark sparrow does the ice damage slow enemies also?
definitely a huge difference when you just leap away on go's when you're healer is cced
Not that i know of
most wars just insta press parry or tank everything
Wouldnt take the slam things with battlelord up and IP back, i dont think WE gonna presse slam anymore
slam is still a let down, just wanted to show that you can take everything downstairs
Its 1 point in imp slam
but you kinda need to spec something to use your points
I think imp slam is probably better than rend, because rend does like 2% now
yep
Fueled by violence + SS could be a good on demand heal
rend is garbage
and a lot of talents boost slam
also we have 1 free point in general tree
Ahh perfect timing to shelve my dh and go back home
You can also drop that bleed rage gen talent and unhinged and put the 2 points into the crit % talent
Ya facts
Plus super useful to kill those fucking psyfiends without having to waste a ms or overpower
Are we thinking the new talent for Ava and csmash will be decent?
Why would I drop unhinged lol unhinged is so based
Just do dam entire game
Ill sharpen a fucking psyfiend if they shield it idgaf
had a spriest leave last ss because we fucked his shit up too much
I’m the only one who notice this ?
30s colossus smash into a mega buffed test of might
Alright time to go all in on the warrior and swap from mongo green boi to Chad dark dwarf I guess
Dur au mal sounds like some construction adhesive
should have geared my gnome war aswell, fuck :<
Isnt test of might nerf to the ground in PvP?
I’m like 5 primals and 100 conq away from getting weapon + boots
Dark iron so good
warrior is back
Mud plz
I buy all the hast and mast gear I’m mad
Arms YouTube content when
Haste still good for arms
Only in bleed build no ?
Not only imo
Crit with unhinged better than hast
By How many is nerfed test of might ?
Fueled by violence IS Bad imo better take fatality
50%
you can't
need that many point to progress further
Sadge
Those weapon enchants when they say sometimes on fury with haste can they be maintained indefinitely or are they on like 50% of the time or what
Also does the burning devotion one that heals works with bloodthirst/impending victory etc or nobody tested
you can swap it with rend or bloodsurge
actually insane how sophic enchants are like so pricey and then they usually have around 15-20% uptime
fuck that, give me the good old 100g 5% main stat enchant back

what are y'all dropping for hurricane/unhinged? haven't tried running that node yet
They completely borked professions across the board
Theyre all giant gold sinks that suck ass now
Executionner
That's a lot of DMG reduction lol
makes sense
Someone made 1.1m in profit off of sophic devotion over the first month
Yea I was thinking of getting in that weap enchant market but it costs a fortune to get max rank devotion
The rank 2s are a gold loss
Yep.
Rank 3s you make money but theyre like 33%?
You have to make rank 3 to get profit
at first i figured it was just purples from m+ being scarce but man
it's insane how steady these prices have stayed
i bought 4 sophic devo so far, but all i did is pvp + mining in DF
Yea and you need to dump so much gold before even getting to rank 3
Its because disenchanting isnt 100% anymore
Purples can de into a blue
Blue into just shitty dust
Even with maxxed de
Crazy thing is
Yea I started doing that now, mine while waiting for SS q’s
I'm full 421/424 after only like 3 weeks of pvp on my war
yeah its insane
had like 6 epics in a row not giving me epic shards
Its so dumb
Better off legit just going mine/herb now
Farm inbetween shuffle qs
Sell it all and buy what u need
Make 10-15k gold in between 20-30 min qs
I play for ~2 hrs a night, just solo shuffle queues. While waiting for queues I mine and herb and gank the shit out of any alliance
200k over the last week. Super chill not even trying
Thats the play
After looking at the PTR build I foresee Fataility with Exe MS play boosting each other...
i will becaus im a one trick pony
wait, are we getting ignore pain back??
Yes
I am guessing you did not see the fury changes...1h is getting a pretty big boost.
Wait arms is getting all these talent buffs and IP? Wtf lmao
exactly
noone is going to play smf now that they have weapons
and the dmg isnt even that exciting
its auto attacks
which hit for wet paper
can u link me vendrek
Doesn't a lot of your procs come from white damage? If that is the case then yes it is exciting.
what trinkets are the best to buy for honour please?
With SMF attacking significantly faster the amount of procs you will have will be rediculous damage in ability once utilized.
the MS from fury is completely ass now
True
I don't think it'll be viable
About to find out I suppose...
I think arms is going to be chad next patch
unless they completely butcher it
which I don't think they will
Oh 100% arms will be chad
Agreed...though I am not sure which will be better...bleed or spear.
spear is just too good
Spear is obv better to keep them bunched up
it also fucks with peoples minds
Also does a fuckton if damage
makes them panic and press alot of defensives
nothing makes me smile more than someone trying 3-4 times to run out of spear
As long as you land it absolutely. Though been watching some play bleed with haste mastery and it does pretty decent rot at pace.
when does patch drop?
hopefully tomorrow 😄
I feel like even if arms only got IP and nothing else it would be real strong
ignore pain is gonna be huge
Yeah two more capstones if you want, crazy
Arms did lose the 5% MS talent however...but overall buff they recieved are very solid.
I feel were gonna slam once everyone gets 4pce pvp
I have 4pce, but 2 pieces are pve, which kinda sucks
I am not sure I would run 4 piece tbh...5% damage and crit for 6 seconds...strong but short window when noticed.
2 piece makes you drool...
you can keep it up so easily
if you're stacking alot of crit
so we are going to have 1 more button/keybind for ignore pain right? do we stop using/lose any other ability?
Fair but at the cost of stats that are not favorable unless you went bleed spec
just macro it like sl
would u guys recommend bleedbuild for arms?
to what
keep it macro'd and it'll always be up
or don't even touch it
where are y'all seeing this?
Look at the stats on that gear...mostly haste.
The gloves and chest are the best two for spear and then the rest of the gear hard favors bleed spec
huh? do we have that much rage to be spamming ignore pain?
I'm always almost full rage
I'm never rage starved, only CD starved when op/Ms isn't back up
it takes time to dump it
Do not macro it just make a New bind
but macroing it to OP/MS is still a waste no? it doesn't stack right?
o wait 1 sec CD
11s cd
I wouldn't macro it
Just use it as needed, or press it a lot
I'm keeping that bitch on cd
Absolutely
Would be nice to have it up during burst but also have the existing shield still in effect
I'm always getting splashed
Gonna go a long way to helping us survive in between parry ability
unless big brains know when to go you when its down
which I doubt ppl will pay attention to that
unless you're playing super high mmr
Ignore pain plus shield stance and victory rush is gg
Or impending victory whatever
I'd like old D stance back tbh
we got it bb
Arms is back
Ip plus all the other changes
Really excite
Might be able to go bleed build without losing unhinged or also get those execute talents and keep unhinged
When do u use bleed build vs like bladestorm build in arena?
bleed shines in long games tbh
that's where I've seen it work the best
maybe someone else can say differently
where do u grab ur builds from?
some great builds in the pins
aight ty
How do you guys maximize uptime on arms without falling over in shuffle
I feel like a tissue
by aiting till next week for the sweet sweet feel no pain
if you feel like you're the go target, sit d stance until big cds are gone
Let’s fucking go
then once its over, back to battle and fucking smash bro
let your healer figure it out 😄
i should try that 2
it's very strong
your output is meh, but sit on your big cds, weather the storm
then come out fucking pumpin
I can’t tell you how how annoying it is to fight a another warrior
dont forget to disarm those filthy melee on their go
Like UH dk, warlock and spriest in every game
dont waste disarm on nothing
I always disarm dk
look for their cds thou, then disarm
😄
Improved Garrote’s Garrote damage bonus reduced by 40% in PvP combat.
yes
shadow got blasted though, finally
What I fucking dislike about these notes: Buffing feral and affliction again without excluding them from pvp
so i plan to play arms while staying in d stance as soon as i am a target come tuesday...thoughts?
I don't know why they do that, seriously
@red ether gg
Dh pvp nerfs are oof
You think 10.0.5 is coming out next week?
well in my current mood i fucking hpe so
40k bloodthirst crit spam feels soft?
Fury damage outside of burst is so steady it makes it easy to heal
Not like arms where when sharpen is up or you get a sudden death crit you can actually put the fear in the healer
you dont hit 40k bloodthirsts above 35% hp
Way more than fury
and fury is pretty soft now compared to any other spec out there, except for the burst
exe crits are a mixed bag
its either 100k crits, or feels like a slam
FUCK NO
Dunno but i feel more an moore that fury sucks
Idk if fury actuallysucks but it does feel like a strictly worse dh rn
I think even 28 more damage in stance wont help..
Idk what you guys are smoking. Fury does tons of damage. Just doesn't have a good heal debuff and is slightly less bursty than arms so it's harder to get kills
it definitely doesnt do tons of damage outside of CDs
Yeah the actual overall damage is fine but it's just not a high pressure damage profile, at least not til reck is up
Dunno. I hit like bid dick damage on arms.. at times one hit50% life
Reck procs so much
Feel like reck uptime is super high
whats the arms burst rotation right now? Avatar-Spear-WB-Bladestorm?
need more than reck to do damage as fury
also reck procs dont give you avatar
Smash > spear > avatar
If you have that talent that activates bladestorm when you avatar
Yea I have no idea why the whole fury vs arm thing is huge but Both classes have both pros and cons
They both can do solo shuffles
WB before Spear...it increases the damage of spear and spear does quite a bit of damage.
If that class sucks then it's most likely you
is it worth getting the boots of impunity? or will they be sacked off for tier?
tier boots dont give set bonus
get boots
The only time I have used Bladestormed in a spear is when concerned about getting disarmed...most time its just the normal OP OP MS into a Bladestorm...and if there is more than one target Sweeping Strikes before the OP OP MS.
Its 100% a shitty dh right now
cheers
And you guys are crazy fury dmg is ass
fury dmage is bad ive been saying it for like 3 weeks
Its horrendous
one small defensive completely cucks fury damage
and it does nothing for the next 2mins
Also steady constant damage is the easiest to heal in pvp, and that's what fury is
^
The ms is mostly irrelevant
Yoi can gib someone every colosus
Every sharpen is pressure
fury damage was only good in combination with a 40% ms
Arms dmg nerf?
where?
I only saw buffs what u mean
Oh you meant the 5% less ms dmg but instead getting every important talent now?
yeah right

that's just with the talent, is it not?
You need some reading comprehension
where?
because that was a buff
id give 10% damage for IP
yeah that buffed the talent
lol
I didnt see that nerf lol
if you think we are getting nerfed youre insane
not a nerf if it frees up a talent point further down the tree
.0.5 is giga buff
csmash wasn't 40%?
some serious misinformation going on seems like
What are you saying
....
???
Are you drunk or something
this man has to be trolling
Literally go read the notes...you can find it in the news section of this discord.
get off the glue
this is grade-A trolling yeah
Chill it aint that deep
Lmao learn to read horry fak
actual derangement going on here
disappointed i took the bait this long
mods remove this man
lol this is great
Avg dh player yes
avg fury player
this is the equivalent of like, 12-year-old prank call material
I really think unholy damage should of gotten touched a bit but arms is looking really really prime in these upcoming few updates
more please
guys he says we are nerfed we should all reroll
slurp slurp
$pb 708740576165756939
dont listen to him, he wants all the arms OPness to himself
Done.
lol
Sadge we got nerfed to s tier 🤡
ty @high veldt

nae naed
arms derangment syndrome was strong in that one
lmao that got buffed too

roflmao
woahh
you silly, dont even know yous guys is nerfd