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rare ibex
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@smoky anchor I've literally never left a game.. intended or unintended. I just said they have to consider it for unintended consequences. People suggesting a 30 day ban for leaving are out of their midns.

mystic barn
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yea if you dont have consistent power / internet its not a good idea to sabotage peoples times until the rating per round changes comes through next week

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imo

craggy socket
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I guess fuck nerfing DH/DK/SP etc etc this season

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Theyre fine!

rare ibex
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Holy shit you guys are missing the point. It's OK.

mystic barn
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he cant help it but his teamates cant help it either rn

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and his teamates get punished so

lean mason
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I understand that but if he left because of things he cant control then it is what it is

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At least it's not he left on purpose

mystic barn
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ye just gonna be less lame when that happens once people get rating per round

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instead end of match

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all im saying

lean mason
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Ye

mystic barn
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which is next week

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speaking of which i have had 0 leavers today

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which is nice

rare ibex
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I didn't leave. I just said I lost power 3x in the past month due to the record-breaking weather, and I wouldn't want to lose 500 CR for that.

mystic barn
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yeye i understand

rare ibex
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If it was "predictable" or known ahead of time that it would happen, I wouldn't queue. Pretty obvious to all...... since the penalty WOULD apply and I would lose CR.

lean mason
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It's something you cant control

mystic barn
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its something you cant control but i would still roll my eyes after sitting a 2 hour queue and that happens to my teamate

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and i get nothing for the match lmao

rare ibex
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I now have 2x UPS for my computer and my router. But most of the world isn't in that situation.

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Again, fuck intentional leavers. But it's something they have to consider.

mystic barn
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if they had any grace for that kind of stuff people would still abuse it

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which is the problem

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when people leave in league matches now, their teamates get loss mitigations which would be a nice touch for shuffle too

rare ibex
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Yeah I mean, let's not forget the way they're handling it now is stupid.

smoky anchor
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Lol power/internet outages are unfortunate but there's nothing they can do to different from a regular leaver

So it's on you to make sure it doesn't happen or just deal with the consequences when it does

rare ibex
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I've queued 15 times, waiting hours combined to have someone leave in round 6 because they're losing... to get 0 score. That's dumb and could be (and will be) at least mitigated.

smoky anchor
steel trout
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u dont realize

violet fossil
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Are they adding ignore pain?

steel trout
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how big

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ignore pain coming back would be

violet fossil
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To arms?

steel trout
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someone posted it in

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pve arms channel

mystic barn
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rejoice

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dh is back

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class is finally playable

thick reef
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If it's not in the patch notes it didn't happen.

smoky anchor
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HahHHHH

thick reef
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Didn't both shp and rogue get buffed

smoky anchor
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Did you see spriest buffs?

steel trout
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posted it

smoky anchor
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Even bigger than that dh budf

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Way bigger

smoky anchor
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Crazy that they are buffing spriest damage across the board

steel trout
thick reef
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You can really tell they're not paying any attention to pvp

violet fossil
mystic barn
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pvp changes usually come later

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who knows

smoky anchor
steel trout
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🙏

smoky anchor
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It is

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It's on wowhead

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Datamined

violet fossil
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I mean it would be nuts if spriest got buffed again

smoky anchor
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Sorry on my work PC but discord on phone

fair tide
steel trout
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oh fuck

violet fossil
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lol

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Damn

smoky anchor
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Oh man. That's huge. We will win bigly. We may get so tired of winning and will be screaming to make it stop. We won't be able to take all the winning

violet fossil
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What’s that 10000 value mean?

smoky anchor
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your CR after patch

scarlet barn
fair tide
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hopefully this patch doesn't take long to go live

elfin surge
steel trout
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its coming 10.0.5

violet fossil
steel trout
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but why we have to lose stormwall?

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are blizzard dumb or something

elfin surge
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stormwall is garbage lmao

scarlet barn
outer parcel
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bruh, i would love to have ignore pain T.T

scarlet barn
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Was posted already here

steel trout
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yes ignore pain better

scarlet barn
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And already being debated in arms channel too

steel trout
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ofc but why we have to lose it?

elfin surge
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@scarlet barn i just woke up from a nap and was spam pinged

scarlet barn
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Yes

elfin surge
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now. shut. up.

scarlet barn
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Good

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No u

smoky anchor
# violet fossil Yeah it looks like it’s just updated tooltips?

Why do u think it's only tooltip updates?

Mind flay, devouring plague, mind spike, mind blast all get a rather large damage buff. And they buffed multidotting by adding mindgames, mind spike, void bolt, and void torment to that AOE talent they have. Not sure if spriest even takes that though.

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Unless those were hot fixed in

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Already

flat dome
violet fossil
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They looked like it was hot fixed in earlier

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It would be nuts if spriest got buffed again lol

steep inlet
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Ignore Pain back

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We were asking it for ages

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Our Guts from Berserk chad is back

smoky anchor
flat dome
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Oh good, we can now survive 5 secs of being focused now

desert root
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imagine if they buff d stance as well lol

smoky anchor
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Wondering if that's your ptr copied char or like a lvl 30 char

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20k doesn't seem like a lot

zenith marlin
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IM WARRR

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WAAAARRR

scarlet barn
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For arms clubbing

zenith marlin
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wait wahat

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IGNORE PAIN?!

nimble jasper
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who ready

smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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im fkn unhinged rn

nimble jasper
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for sin to have an aoe heal absorb

steep inlet
nimble jasper
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also this is really funny

copper hare
nimble jasper
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outlaw having a 2s 65% wall

copper hare
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ignore pain back is fucking sick

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I'm really hard right now ngl

flat dome
smoky anchor
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I wonder what the final amount will be

smoky anchor
smoky anchor
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It's just blur

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And maybe nether walk

hard hound
flat dome
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And going into the air

zenith marlin
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where the patch notes

hard hound
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Great

severe skiff
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ignore pain back is nice but don't get too crazy, brutal vitality conduit not baked into it so not going to be like in SL where you pop that shit it and its the entire duration. Still nice tho

smoky anchor
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Well if you want to count a dh jump as a dmg reduction then warrior has 2 charges to the healer plus intervene to your own healer plus heroic leap

zenith marlin
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11 sec cd

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socialism at its finest

flat dome
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How is charging the healer damage reduction lol

steep inlet
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Yep grimstuk saw it

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Im hard rn

smoky anchor
distant hearth
smoky anchor
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Pretty simple concept

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Do it all the time

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Ret pallies rage so hard when it happens

copper hare
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Can't believe that they're bringing ignore pain back and you bitches are still crying about this change

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screw you

flat dome
zenith marlin
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give me link to the notes pls

smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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where do they even publsih this

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HELL YEA HMEAKE IT LIKE PROT

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Take away Slam idk

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id give away both slam and whirlwind for 0 CD off GCD ignore pain

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liek in prot

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  • shield wall
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Like very other fkn class in the game

smoky anchor
urban skiff
zenith marlin
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Sundowner respecced Arms here

smoky anchor
flat dome
smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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btw DHs can fly up in the air trough our Spear and in every time we cast it

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So whats the fkn point

copper hare
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Avatar reducing damage taken by 10% aswell now, they are clearly trying to make arms better but they don't like a permanent reduce like d stance

zenith marlin
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Of retris bubble

flat dome
zenith marlin
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ferals just kite u

flat dome
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In what world does a warrior kite a DH

full quiver
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TSG stonks up @elfin surge

smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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im not kiting anyone

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kiting is the most leather class thing I heard

quaint snow
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what you mean with MMR change? 😄

copper hare
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instead of just cr

dapper cypress
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playing 2v2 with ret
should i use roar or spear?

smoky anchor
# flat dome And pigs fly

Tell me all you do in arena is charge a DPS and tunnel vision them without telling me all you do in arena is charge a DPS and tunnel vision them

slim knoll
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Where are these notes?

copper hare
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scroll up?

flat dome
slim knoll
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Omg Im so happy

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Tuesday?

smoky anchor
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No

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I believe these are ptr datamined which is 10.0.5, slated to come out mid to late jan

copper hare
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probably with catalyst

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would be my guess

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would make the most sense

smoky anchor
slim knoll
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Are they really buffing DH? Looks like they are

smoky anchor
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Yeah the hunt lmao

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I think the part they are buffing can get spell reflected tho

slim knoll
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What the FUCK

smoky anchor
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So really a nerf in that sense

slim knoll
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More leech too?

smoky anchor
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No

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Leech nerf

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Pvp nerf by 40%

fair tide
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20 mill healing

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jfc

copper hare
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yeah leech and soulrend damage nerf

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Should probably still adjust last tick of blade dance damage

fair tide
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where you guys seeing the datamined notes?

copper hare
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wowhead

fair tide
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got a link?

steel trout
smoky anchor
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Can someone explain

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Are those buffs on spriest already implement

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As hotfixes

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Or is that buff coming through in 10.0.5

slim knoll
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This is so sweet I can’t wait for Ignore penis

quick carbon
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Shadowpriest is an Egyptian god card

urban skiff
smoky anchor
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Fury is getting some buffs though

zenith marlin
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?? this resto shaman who is 1.8k CR in my solo shuffle game just got Legend title??

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"Win 100 Rated Solo Shuffle rounds while at Elite rank during Dragonflight Season 1."

urban skiff
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NGL, giving IP to arms will kill fury

smoky anchor
fair tide
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I don't think this is going to revive smf

smoky anchor
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You can swap specs and get wins for the title

steel trout
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fuck fury 💯

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arms gang

zenith marlin
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Buddy we are all <1900 CR as the finishing screen

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OOOH I see

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that's cringe asf

urban skiff
slim knoll
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Look at the leadboard. Arm’s already dominant over fury

smoky anchor
urban skiff
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Yo is this huge

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?

smoky anchor
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Hmm interesting I didn't even know there was a pvp multiple

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Multiplier

copper hare
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didnt even know this was fucking nerfed in the first place

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they should just get rid of all modifiers and make a full reset between expansions

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idk

crude bane
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so for dev DH is ok and they need a the hunt buff

urban skiff
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you mean like they do with rogue and accidentally give them one-shots for weeks every expansion?

severe skiff
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none of the DH changes were even in the main notes, so not added yet or they were tooltip changes

slim knoll
smoky anchor
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Secret technique

severe skiff
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we lose like nothing getting to play bleeds now

drowsy wasp
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arms got ignore pain now?

severe skiff
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flex point being bloodletting which is nerfed in pvp being able to be put in unhinged or 1 point in critcal thinking

urban skiff
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made a rogue myself but my head is full of rocks so I can't figure it out

crude bane
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dh just spaming glaive everywhere then when some1 is 50 % stun and press the hunt

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they all have the same gameplay

slim knoll
drowsy wasp
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I don’t see it in the notes

zenith marlin
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got so bonked only won 1 game in this SS vs DH DK and Retri

drowsy wasp
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But ppl said it’s in game on ptr?

outer parcel
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im getting done with ss though

smoky anchor
slim knoll
outer parcel
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think till the patch i just dont wanna play anymore

zenith marlin
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Not winning hurts my ego

keen coral
smoky anchor
mystic barn
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ah yes the 40th zoomed in snip of ignore pain in 10 minutes

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good work hyperion

keen coral
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Fuk i was hoping to be 39th

outer parcel
zenith marlin
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Why do they say "While Methamorphsis is active"

smoky anchor
slim knoll
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Thank you for the masturbatory material Hyperion

zenith marlin
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Shit is always active

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I wish they deleted DHs

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I'd pay $200 for that

severe skiff
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so we are losing 5% MS damage but w/e

zenith marlin
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wait what

slim knoll
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I didn’t see that in the notes

outer parcel
smoky anchor
severe skiff
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our capstones are shit

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improved mortal strike is gone

gritty river
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You can just take sharpened blades for the MS damage back, they're taking out the talent too so you will have a point to spend on it

smoky anchor
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It's not gone it's baked in

zenith marlin
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I'd rather get butfkt by 5 frostmages than see another DH again

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Funny thing is they are garbage 1v1 in open world

crude bane
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i legit saw a dh in my lobby 1K9 MMR 4-2

zenith marlin
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"Thick Skin" spell on DHs tanking spec

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Thick skin right

crude bane
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i dont even talk about his 2S 1K4 Rate after 100 Matches

zenith marlin
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they are all fkn ELF but idk thic skin I guess

crude bane
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if they nerf dh defensives maybe its ok

keen coral
# smoky anchor It's not gone it's baked in

People keep saying this like it makes sense. Compared to right now, where we take improved MS, we will have 5% less MS damage in 10.0.5. Is the end result the same MS damage as it was before our last tuning? yes. Still doesn't mean it's not quite literally gone, the baseline 5% MS buff is already in the game on live

zenith marlin
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Arent these patch notes buffs

crude bane
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how some evoker got 2K + rating i didnt see anyone in 115 match

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heloooooo ?

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SP DH WAR Lock only

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like 90 % of my games

smoky anchor
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Thankfully there aren't many of them

zenith marlin
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jeez had to scroll trough so many L specs to get to warr notes

pure hornet
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Any1 elce still undecided if arms or fury? 😦

crude bane
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rogue are tunneling healer i kinda blow them up

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disarm on garrote

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they just have to nerf dh mastery by 30 %

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then the Q is 30 min longer

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  • ban the leaver so maybe 1 hour longer now
zenith marlin
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id legit pay to delete DHs from the game and my brain

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maybe ill get a lobotomy kekw

drowsy wasp
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how good is ignore pain for arms

crude bane
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i legit didnt want to play dh cause afraidn of nerf hammer

wheat crane
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Feel like devoker gonna pump

crude bane
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XDDDDD HOW CRINGE IS THAT

wheat crane
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They already pump and buffs across the board

crude bane
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i reroll one i think

mystic barn
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ty

wheat crane
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I played vs one earlier that just straight up was nuking the entire lobby every round

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It died pretty easy but the dmg is legit

elfin surge
smoky anchor
smoky anchor
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Effectively a 30% damage reduction considering your health of 330k or so

wheat crane
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Yea

sterile carbon
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Wtf

teal light
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I did not see the loss of the 5% MS talent removal...that is going to hurt.

elfin surge
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i think its bugged

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normal ignore pain is 53k but if i spam it, it stacks the previous one.

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capping 2x

smoky anchor
wheat crane
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Just shitting out unhealable dmg till it flopped

drowsy wasp
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53k ignore pain seems too good

zenith marlin
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why did they buff stam in the game

smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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only for ppl to geth OHKO the same xd

wheat crane
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I think you swap on em and they just die

copper hare
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should absorb 200k imo

wheat crane
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Like hed be 60-70% from cleave then just spear and kill it

wheat crane
smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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we legit the only class without an immunity kekw

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except DKs

slim knoll
zenith marlin
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why do non paladins have immunity anyway

slim knoll
eager mortar
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soon people will whine and it will be nerfed by next week kek faster than any other class getting nerfed

urban skiff
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Wonder why people are so aggressive about warriors being strong but fall silent whenever it's anyone else

smoky anchor
slim knoll
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Nerf every class buff only woyer!!!

elfin surge
zenith marlin
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What do you expect from Non-Warrior players

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character and integrity?

urban skiff
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I definitely don't expect either from warriors

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Just rocks in our head

slim knoll
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No they’re dirty magic users

urban skiff
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Sound like Yoko Ono when we charge

slim knoll
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Heresy I say

smoky anchor
keen coral
slim knoll
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I want to participate in a woyer only bg

smoky anchor
urban skiff
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because that's what i'm talking about.

zenith marlin
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i wouldnt be so sore if lets say Fury players destroyed me instead

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But emo elves?

smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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I alt f4 everytime a DH kils me

keen coral
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I'll repeat, crazy victim complex you got there

urban skiff
zenith marlin
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wish they had an option to hide elves

keen coral
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No shit sherlock, that's besides the point

zenith marlin
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and vulpera

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and worgen

smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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and lizards

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they are all straight outta deviantart

urban skiff
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No it's not. It's literally my point that when all things are even, warrior gets MORE complaints. Things aren't even right now.

smoky anchor
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Bro someone in here legit plays pandaren female warrior

keen coral
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Idk how to walk you through this one chief

zenith marlin
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T^T

urban skiff
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Same way melee gets more complaints than casters

teal light
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In the notes release today they removed a lot of the Spriests healing from spells and instead gave them baseline leech and increase spell power...not excited to face SPriests currently

keen coral
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But even when warriors aren't that great

scarlet barn
zenith marlin
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arent warrior pandaren just monks

keen coral
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They are still one of, if not the, most popular classes in the entire game in PvP and have been since the beginning of the game

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Ofc they are going to catch more flak, you play against one every other game

smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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^

keen coral
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Ah yes, thats relevant

zenith marlin
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thats why we should be a hero class

tawny river
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arms getting ignore pain back

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holy moly

zenith marlin
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level a warr to 60 in classic with common items

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or no warr

cinder lake
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What do you get…when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash!? I'll tell you what you get...You get a fukin Arms warr!

smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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mortal strike lowkey OHKO in low level BGs

urban skiff
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Levelling my kultiran warrior I sat 10-60 with a pure grin on my face the entire ride

zenith marlin
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it feels like mortal strike

slim knoll
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Playing fury feels like firing a 50cal machine gun

smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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except u one shot them with enchanted heirlooms and gemmed TBC gear

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xdxd

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pop HoA and Legion Artficats on them

fair tide
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3 leavers in a row for ss when queue pops

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stahaaaap

zenith marlin
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avg SS experience

urban skiff
smoky anchor
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It's the only way

fair tide
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I just want a win for the week so I can upgrade my new shit 😄

smoky anchor
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This poor poor resto druid got farmed last night and evoker convinced us to give him the wind on round 5 so he didn't leave

urban skiff
urban skiff
smoky anchor
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Yeah usually I like to mislead my teammates since they'll be enemies next round

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Not sure if it works but it does in my head

urban skiff
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Never be afraid to ask how to play solo shuffle first round

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sit in dstance and stack death wish

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then just pop off

nimble jasper
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ngl killing spree becoming a 2s wall

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is pure comedy

urban skiff
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that's two globals

nimble jasper
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yeah

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pretty big for a 1min cd

urban skiff
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I'm not worried, the rest of outlaw is crap

nimble jasper
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?

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Lol

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“crap”

copper hare
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yeah rogue unplayble

nimble jasper
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😂

nimble jasper
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outlaw is good thats the funny part

urban skiff
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assa for brawler and sub for playmaker. Outlaw for braindamage and memes to feel special

nimble jasper
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its only gonna get better once more people have tier

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outlaw is the brawler

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you good

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assa been the braindam spec

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half the assa players cant even watch their own kidney dr

urban skiff
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assa is the good feral

copper hare
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assa is pretty much the fury spec for rogue

nimble jasper
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feral is s tier rn

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lol

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what are you on

urban skiff
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Assa is literally feral but better damage

nimble jasper
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uhh

urban skiff
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with the same damage profile

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I'm not making any statement about which spec is better

nimble jasper
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yes feral dam bad

smoky anchor
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No cause I already spent my cq on 2h

nimble jasper
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real bad

slim knoll
nimble jasper
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pls buff

fair tide
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here we go again

copper hare
fair tide
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can I please just fucking play 1 full game

copper hare
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in a 4 min game

hardy iris
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Full Haste gear for pvp since I was fury but decided to change to arms and realise you need full crit, should I start changing gear over boys or stay full Haste?

smoky anchor
urban skiff
smoky anchor
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Also they have cyclone

urban skiff
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fill out blanks

lean mason
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Hey. You could always use smf in quick mode if it makes you feel better

nimble jasper
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not clone once in 3mins

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good ones will just clone you low

urban skiff
lean mason
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No.

nimble jasper
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or on your wall

smoky anchor
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Clone is busted spell seriously op

coral axle
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Dh nerf on the ptr rn bless

drowsy wasp
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did they nerf dh?

urban skiff
coral axle
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40% leech nerf, 17% glaive dot nerf

slim knoll
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When is 10.0.5 coming?

coral axle
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They going from 20% to 12% leech an actual real nerf

urban skiff
crude bane
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they need to nerf the mastery

nimble jasper
smoky anchor
coral axle
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Well yeah they still have to give zoomers their free 2400

crude bane
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its not even a meme

slim knoll
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DH does too much damage imo. Double other melee in rbg except UH Dk

crude bane
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they rlly got 2K +

urban skiff
crude bane
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with no xp

smoky anchor
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Even more so. I think I need a weak auras for the hunt to horn at me so I can spell reflect it everytime I hear it

urban skiff
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there's a time and place for it, unlike our cc

coral axle
urban skiff
coral axle
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If I keep playing I honestly think 2400 would be a joke

nimble jasper
crude bane
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yeah i got 1K9 on my monk but now im stuck

wheat crane
crude bane
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when you firt timing

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2K is a lot

nimble jasper
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i literally got 2k my first month without watching drs

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huh

wheat crane
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Was like 70% rip

coral axle
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Love that

wheat crane
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Does rip stack or something now

urban skiff
nimble jasper
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i literally q’ed arms dh my first week of pvp in demonic

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and we almost gibbed 80% of teams in opening battlecry

wheat crane
nimble jasper
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wild 500 cr increase

crude bane
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i take too much damage from melee the just tunnel me xd

dusky topaz
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Anyone can help with gearing priority for fresh arms please? Got like 5k honor to spend for start. Not sure what to take first. Thanks

crude bane
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they *

nimble jasper
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you have to kite

crude bane
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im totally new to this class need to practise

nimble jasper
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below 2k you win by 2nd legsweep

urban skiff
crude bane
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im undergeared aswell 338K Hp

#

415 ilvl

nimble jasper
#

because everyone trades too much

crude bane
#

ez target

nimble jasper
#

for first keefers

nimble jasper
#

i got 2.1 with 328k hp

drowsy wasp
nimble jasper
crude bane
#

most ppl have 2 Part and like 380K hp a more poly

#

and *

#

and you bette than me

#

probably

nimble jasper
#

i mean you’re making excuses

#

learn to port

#

thats monk basics to living always

#

pre ring goes

outer parcel
#

dont know how but im constantly breaking even on 3 wins D

steep inlet
#

went on PTR ignore pain back is real

#

i'm gonna cry

outer parcel
#

arms need it

nimble jasper
#

dh is free pts as ww

#

as soon as they dont have blur they’re a goner

dark sparrow
#

How hard does Arms dmg spike with weapon upgrade? My MS is only hitting for 80k max

copper hare
#

Holy shit the arms tree looks so fucking good on ptr now

#

you can actually get everything that's important

green wyvern
#

wheres the bis macro

#

for ignore pain

crude bane
#

cant learn from 45 Min q

#

😢

green wyvern
#

the one true macro

urban skiff
dark sparrow
#

Also, do you guys insta cancel your bladestorm you proc from avatar on spear go or let it rip for unhinged procs first

green wyvern
#

legendary macro

wheat crane
#

I hate unhinged

green wyvern
#

one macro to rule them all

wheat crane
#

But if youre playing it i wouldnt cancel it

copper hare
#

which is still insane with bladestorm pvp talent

#

But I think it's slightly nerfed in pvp right

dark sparrow
#

I haven’t tried the bleed build yet, shit didn’t look appealing to me tbh

copper hare
#

rend got nerfed too hard for bleed build to be really impactful I think

urban skiff
#

With the removed modifier on sweeping strikes I can see unhinged getting stronger, no?

wheat crane
#

You can just not play unhinged and grab bs

gritty river
#

it's more deep wounds doing dam with thunderous roar with bleed build

wheat crane
#

Use the reck proc

gritty river
#

rend is just there because it's more efficient to press than slam

wheat crane
#

And put the extra point into executioner

south kestrel
#

What are peoples thoughts on improved MS being gutted

copper hare
#

you'll have executioner anyway in 10.5

wheat crane
#

True

copper hare
#

you can spec pretty much anything

wheat crane
#

I didnt look at the new ptr build

#

Just saw ignore back

south kestrel
#

Guess I should start playing more arms…

copper hare
#

just for example, you can basically spec into everything down there

dark sparrow
#

If only @elfin surge would upload the tech on his YouTube but all I see is fury Pepexecute

south kestrel
#

Jesus fatality as well

#

Thats huge

wheat crane
#

Cocksuckers pushing imp slam on us

dark sparrow
cinder thorn
#

Guys what enchants do you have on your fury weapons?

A) Double Sophic
B) Double Frozen
C) One each
D) Something other combination (say it)

wheat crane
#

Button is legit just a flacid boner

uneven turret
#

oh man, guess i should start buying arms piece...wasted 3600 conquest on mastery weapons ffs.

copper hare
#

Its actually sad that you need like 7 slam modifiers for it to do the same damage as in the last expansions

fair tide
#

I'm friggin excited for this patch

steep inlet
#

we can even build unhinged fatality on ptr

fair tide
#

better come quick

steep inlet
#

its fucking insane

green wyvern
#

bring back condemn

wheat crane
wheat crane
#

Dmg is actually pretty high

smoky anchor
# nimble jasper you have to kite

Lmao someone in here was laughing at me when I said you can kite melee. It's so easy as warrior to do it. But ppl just zug and expect to win (admittedly works a lot)

wheat crane
#

Even rank 2

#

Smf with double frozen devo might be some wild dmg post patch

cinder thorn
#

@wheat crane @dark sparrow does the ice damage slow enemies also?

copper hare
copper hare
#

most wars just insta press parry or tank everything

tribal wedge
copper hare
wheat crane
#

Its 1 point in imp slam

copper hare
#

but you kinda need to spec something to use your points

#

I think imp slam is probably better than rend, because rend does like 2% now

steep inlet
#

yep

tribal wedge
#

Fueled by violence + SS could be a good on demand heal

green wyvern
#

rend is garbage

steep inlet
#

and a lot of talents boost slam

green wyvern
#

also we have 1 free point in general tree

worthy fern
#

Ahh perfect timing to shelve my dh and go back home

green wyvern
#

can go full slam

#

and use it as a real filler

wheat crane
#

You can also drop that bleed rage gen talent and unhinged and put the 2 points into the crit % talent

smoky anchor
worthy fern
#

Are we thinking the new talent for Ava and csmash will be decent?

smoky anchor
#

Why would I drop unhinged lol unhinged is so based

worthy fern
#

Just do dam entire game

copper hare
#

I mean, anger management still reduces bladestorm

#

which is huge

wheat crane
steep inlet
#

in pvp

#

ohoh

#

i'm on ptr

fair tide
#

had a spriest leave last ss because we fucked his shit up too much

copper hare
#

finally something against casters again

#

I'm actually happy

fair tide
#

fiend was up for like 1-2 seconds

#

everytime

hard hound
#

I’m the only one who notice this ?

#

30s colossus smash into a mega buffed test of might

dark sparrow
#

Alright time to go all in on the warrior and swap from mongo green boi to Chad dark dwarf I guess

scarlet barn
copper hare
#

should have geared my gnome war aswell, fuck :<

tribal wedge
#

Isnt test of might nerf to the ground in PvP?

steep inlet
#

since bfa y

#

cause azerite trait

dark sparrow
#

I’m like 5 primals and 100 conq away from getting weapon + boots

wheat crane
#

Dark iron so good

elfin surge
#

warrior is back

wheat crane
#

Mud plz

hard hound
#

I buy all the hast and mast gear I’m mad

dark sparrow
#

Arms YouTube content when

tribal wedge
#

Haste still good for arms

hard hound
#

Only in bleed build no ?

tribal wedge
#

Not only imo

tawny river
#

actually u can take every slam talent now

#

with plus 1 point in main tree

hard hound
#

Crit with unhinged better than hast

tawny river
wheat crane
#

I do wish rend was better

#

It feels good to play it just doesn't do dick

hard hound
#

By How many is nerfed test of might ?

tribal wedge
#

Fueled by violence IS Bad imo better take fatality

tribal wedge
tawny river
#

need that many point to progress further

tribal wedge
#

Sadge

cinder thorn
#

Those weapon enchants when they say sometimes on fury with haste can they be maintained indefinitely or are they on like 50% of the time or what

Also does the burning devotion one that heals works with bloodthirst/impending victory etc or nobody tested

tawny river
#

you can swap it with rend or bloodsurge

copper hare
#

actually insane how sophic enchants are like so pricey and then they usually have around 15-20% uptime

#

fuck that, give me the good old 100g 5% main stat enchant back

lucid walrus
#

what are y'all dropping for hurricane/unhinged? haven't tried running that node yet

wheat crane
#

They completely borked professions across the board

#

Theyre all giant gold sinks that suck ass now

smoky anchor
lucid walrus
#

makes sense

smoky anchor
dark sparrow
wheat crane
#

The rank 2s are a gold loss

smoky anchor
wheat crane
#

Rank 3s you make money but theyre like 33%?

smoky anchor
#

You have to make rank 3 to get profit

lucid walrus
#

at first i figured it was just purples from m+ being scarce but man

#

it's insane how steady these prices have stayed

tawny river
#

i bought 4 sophic devo so far, but all i did is pvp + mining in DF

dark sparrow
#

Yea and you need to dump so much gold before even getting to rank 3

wheat crane
#

Purples can de into a blue

#

Blue into just shitty dust

#

Even with maxxed de

smoky anchor
#

Crazy thing is

dark sparrow
smoky anchor
#

I'm full 421/424 after only like 3 weeks of pvp on my war

copper hare
#

had like 6 epics in a row not giving me epic shards

wheat crane
#

Its so dumb

copper hare
#

could have been 15k gold

#

500 gold instead xd

wheat crane
#

Better off legit just going mine/herb now

#

Farm inbetween shuffle qs

#

Sell it all and buy what u need

#

Make 10-15k gold in between 20-30 min qs

smoky anchor
teal light
#

After looking at the PTR build I foresee Fataility with Exe MS play boosting each other...

outer parcel
#

i will becaus im a one trick pony

pallid void
#

wait, are we getting ignore pain back??

oblique chasm
#

yall know what is bis

#

for pvp fury warrior 2h

teal light
pallid void
#

holy fuck

#

I am excite

#

I can not wait to take slam completely off my bar lul

teal light
coral axle
#

Wait arms is getting all these talent buffs and IP? Wtf lmao

oblique chasm
#

what

#

really

teal light
#

exactly

fair tide
#

noone is going to play smf now that they have weapons

#

and the dmg isnt even that exciting

#

its auto attacks

#

which hit for wet paper

oblique chasm
#

can u link me vendrek

teal light
#

Doesn't a lot of your procs come from white damage? If that is the case then yes it is exciting.

fair tide
#

procs

#

not dmg from white hits

dusky topaz
#

what trinkets are the best to buy for honour please?

teal light
#

With SMF attacking significantly faster the amount of procs you will have will be rediculous damage in ability once utilized.

fair tide
#

the MS from fury is completely ass now

teal light
#

True

fair tide
#

I don't think it'll be viable

teal light
#

About to find out I suppose...

fair tide
#

I think arms is going to be chad next patch

#

unless they completely butcher it

#

which I don't think they will

smoky anchor
#

Oh 100% arms will be chad

teal light
#

Agreed...though I am not sure which will be better...bleed or spear.

fair tide
#

spear is just too good

smoky anchor
#

Spear is obv better to keep them bunched up

fair tide
#

it also fucks with peoples minds

smoky anchor
#

Also does a fuckton if damage

fair tide
#

makes them panic and press alot of defensives

#

nothing makes me smile more than someone trying 3-4 times to run out of spear

teal light
#

As long as you land it absolutely. Though been watching some play bleed with haste mastery and it does pretty decent rot at pace.

vast haven
#

when does patch drop?

fair tide
#

hopefully tomorrow 😄

coral axle
#

I feel like even if arms only got IP and nothing else it would be real strong

vast haven
#

ignore pain is gonna be huge

fair tide
#

not only that, but 2 points to allocate in the arms tree

#

will be huge

coral axle
#

Yeah two more capstones if you want, crazy

teal light
#

Arms did lose the 5% MS talent however...but overall buff they recieved are very solid.

fair tide
#

I feel were gonna slam once everyone gets 4pce pvp

#

I have 4pce, but 2 pieces are pve, which kinda sucks

red ether
#

arms is getting ignore pain, holy moly

#

all the doomers can finally celebrate

teal light
#

I am not sure I would run 4 piece tbh...5% damage and crit for 6 seconds...strong but short window when noticed.

#

2 piece makes you drool...

fair tide
#

you can keep it up so easily

smoky anchor
#

40k damage shield every 11 seconds

#

Finna be litty 🔥

fair tide
#

if you're stacking alot of crit

uneven turret
#

so we are going to have 1 more button/keybind for ignore pain right? do we stop using/lose any other ability?

teal light
#

Fair but at the cost of stats that are not favorable unless you went bleed spec

fair tide
#

just macro it like sl

soft flax
#

would u guys recommend bleedbuild for arms?

uneven turret
fair tide
#

keep it macro'd and it'll always be up

soft flax
#

or don't even touch it

lucid walrus
#

where are y'all seeing this?

teal light
#

Look at the stats on that gear...mostly haste.

fair tide
#

kek

#

fuck, macro it to everything

teal light
#

The gloves and chest are the best two for spear and then the rest of the gear hard favors bleed spec

uneven turret
fair tide
#

I'm always almost full rage

smoky anchor
fair tide
#

it takes time to dump it

tribal wedge
#

Do not macro it just make a New bind

uneven turret
#

but macroing it to OP/MS is still a waste no? it doesn't stack right?

fair tide
#

keeping ip up will be a top priority

#

due to so much fucking cleave

uneven turret
#

o wait 1 sec CD

smoky anchor
#

I wouldn't macro it

#

Just use it as needed, or press it a lot

fair tide
#

I'm keeping that bitch on cd

teal light
smoky anchor
#

Would be nice to have it up during burst but also have the existing shield still in effect

fair tide
#

I'm always getting splashed

smoky anchor
#

Gonna go a long way to helping us survive in between parry ability

fair tide
#

unless big brains know when to go you when its down

#

which I doubt ppl will pay attention to that

#

unless you're playing super high mmr

smoky anchor
#

Ignore pain plus shield stance and victory rush is gg

#

Or impending victory whatever

fair tide
#

I'd like old D stance back tbh

brazen rock
#

Lmao w8 did arms just get IP back?

#

Is it April 1st?

fair tide
#

we got it bb

brazen rock
#

Hah

#

Dank

fair tide
#

todays a good day

#

lets see what next weeks tuning brings

brazen rock
#

Arms is back

smoky anchor
#

Ip plus all the other changes

#

Really excite

#

Might be able to go bleed build without losing unhinged or also get those execute talents and keep unhinged

soft flax
#

When do u use bleed build vs like bladestorm build in arena?

fair tide
#

bleed shines in long games tbh

#

that's where I've seen it work the best

#

maybe someone else can say differently

soft flax
#

where do u grab ur builds from?

fair tide
#

some great builds in the pins

soft flax
#

aight ty

south kestrel
#

How do you guys maximize uptime on arms without falling over in shuffle

#

I feel like a tissue

outer parcel
#

by aiting till next week for the sweet sweet feel no pain

hard hound
fair tide
hard hound
#

Let’s fucking go

fair tide
#

then once its over, back to battle and fucking smash bro

#

let your healer figure it out 😄

south kestrel
#

Fair point thanks brother

#

I often forget about stance dancing

fair tide
#

just make sure you're not lining your heals

#

like zug zug man, but be aware

outer parcel
fair tide
#

it's very strong

#

your output is meh, but sit on your big cds, weather the storm

#

then come out fucking pumpin

lean mason
#

I can’t tell you how how annoying it is to fight a another warrior

south kestrel
#

Yeah i do my best to line but im coming up against so many dot classes

#

Its tough

fair tide
#

dont forget to disarm those filthy melee on their go

south kestrel
#

Like UH dk, warlock and spriest in every game

fair tide
#

dont waste disarm on nothing

south kestrel
#

I always disarm dk

fair tide
#

look for their cds thou, then disarm

south kestrel
#

Yeah

#

Once slappy hands comes out i usually do it

fair tide
#

😄

copper hare
#

Improved Garrote’s Garrote damage bonus reduced by 40% in PvP combat.

#

yes

#

shadow got blasted though, finally

#

What I fucking dislike about these notes: Buffing feral and affliction again without excluding them from pvp

uneven turret
#

so i plan to play arms while staying in d stance as soon as i am a target come tuesday...thoughts?

copper hare
#

I don't know why they do that, seriously

mystic barn
#

@red ether gg

south kestrel
#

Hmm

#

That hunt nerf

mighty fractal
#

Preservation evoker Nerf to mana regen only

#

Lel

south kestrel
#

Dh pvp nerfs are oof

smoky anchor
pure hornet
#

I feel like i hit soft

#

With fury

outer parcel
smoky anchor
#

40k bloodthirst crit spam feels soft?

coral axle
#

Fury damage outside of burst is so steady it makes it easy to heal

#

Not like arms where when sharpen is up or you get a sudden death crit you can actually put the fear in the healer

pure hornet
#

Arms hits like a trul

#

Truck

#

Creates pressure

copper hare
pure hornet
#

Way more than fury

copper hare
#

and fury is pretty soft now compared to any other spec out there, except for the burst

mild thunder
#

its either 100k crits, or feels like a slam

#

FUCK NO

coral axle
#

Fury is getting a small buff next Tuesday, all warrior is

#

5% more damage in dstance

pure hornet
#

Dunno but i feel more an moore that fury sucks

mild thunder
#

it does suck

#

it should suck

coral axle
#

Idk if fury actuallysucks but it does feel like a strictly worse dh rn

pure hornet
smoky anchor
#

Idk what you guys are smoking. Fury does tons of damage. Just doesn't have a good heal debuff and is slightly less bursty than arms so it's harder to get kills

mild thunder
#

it definitely doesnt do tons of damage outside of CDs

coral axle
#

Yeah the actual overall damage is fine but it's just not a high pressure damage profile, at least not til reck is up

pure hornet
#

Dunno. I hit like bid dick damage on arms.. at times one hit50% life

smoky anchor
#

Feel like reck uptime is super high

uneven turret
#

whats the arms burst rotation right now? Avatar-Spear-WB-Bladestorm?

mild thunder
#

need more than reck to do damage as fury

smoky anchor
#

Boo

#

No

mild thunder
#

also reck procs dont give you avatar

smoky anchor
#

Smash > spear > avatar

#

If you have that talent that activates bladestorm when you avatar

lean mason
#

Yea I have no idea why the whole fury vs arm thing is huge but Both classes have both pros and cons

#

They both can do solo shuffles

teal light
lean mason
#

If that class sucks then it's most likely you

bright quarry
#

is it worth getting the boots of impunity? or will they be sacked off for tier?

merry valley
#

get boots

teal light
#

The only time I have used Bladestormed in a spear is when concerned about getting disarmed...most time its just the normal OP OP MS into a Bladestorm...and if there is more than one target Sweeping Strikes before the OP OP MS.

wheat crane
bright quarry
wheat crane
#

And you guys are crazy fury dmg is ass

teal light
#

There is no tier boots

#

tier is only 5 with 2 set bonus and 4 set bonus

spice hornet
#

fury dmage is bad ive been saying it for like 3 weeks

wheat crane
#

Its horrendous

spice hornet
#

one small defensive completely cucks fury damage

#

and it does nothing for the next 2mins

coral axle
#

Also steady constant damage is the easiest to heal in pvp, and that's what fury is

wheat crane
#

^

coral axle
#

The ms is mostly irrelevant

wheat crane
#

Yoi can gib someone every colosus

lucid walrus
#

yeah pretty much

#

colossus roughly lines up with each sharpen

coral axle
#

Every sharpen is pressure

copper hare
#

fury damage was only good in combination with a 40% ms

wheat crane
#

^

#

30k bloodbath crits arent exactly denting healthbars

coral axle
#

Arms dmg nerf?

lucid walrus
#

where?

wheat crane
#

I only saw buffs what u mean

copper hare
#

Oh you meant the 5% less ms dmg but instead getting every important talent now?

#

yeah right

lucid walrus
#

that's just with the talent, is it not?

copper hare
#

You need some reading comprehension

gritty river
#

where?

copper hare
#

because that was a buff

gentle depot
#

id give 10% damage for IP

lucid walrus
#

yeah that buffed the talent

copper hare
#

lol

south kestrel
#

I didnt see that nerf lol

lucid walrus
#

oh

#

yeah so what

gentle depot
#

if you think we are getting nerfed youre insane

lucid walrus
#

not a nerf if it frees up a talent point further down the tree

gentle depot
#

.0.5 is giga buff

copper hare
#

csmash wasn't 40%?

gritty river
#

some serious misinformation going on seems like

copper hare
#

What are you saying

gentle depot
#

....

lucid walrus
#

???

copper hare
#

Are you drunk or something

gentle depot
#

this man has to be trolling

teal light
#

Literally go read the notes...you can find it in the news section of this discord.

copper hare
#

get off the glue

lucid walrus
#

this is grade-A trolling yeah

brazen rock
#

ignore new leaf posters with blank PFPs

#

<@&257983573498265600> zzz

lean mason
#

Chill it aint that deep

copper hare
#

You're just braindamaged

#

:D

smoky anchor
#

Lmao learn to read horry fak

mild thunder
#

actual derangement going on here

lucid walrus
#

disappointed i took the bait this long

brazen rock
#

avg DH player

gentle depot
#

keks mods remove this man

gritty river
#

lol this is great

smoky anchor
#

Avg dh player yes

mild thunder
#

avg fury player

lucid walrus
#

this is the equivalent of like, 12-year-old prank call material

severe skiff
#

I really think unholy damage should of gotten touched a bit but arms is looking really really prime in these upcoming few updates

gritty river
#

more please

gentle depot
#

sadge guys he says we are nerfed we should all reroll

brazen rock
#

slurp slurp

high veldt
#

$pb 708740576165756939

mild thunder
#

dont listen to him, he wants all the arms OPness to himself

unkempt egretBOT
#

Done.

severe skiff
#

lol

high veldt
tribal wedge
#

Sadge we got nerfed to s tier 🤡

brazen rock
#

ty @high veldt

gentle depot
high veldt
#

nae naed

mild thunder
#

arms derangment syndrome was strong in that one

copper hare
#

He read this one

#

but doesnt realise that it's actually a buff LOL

brazen rock
mild thunder
teal light
#

roflmao

gentle depot
#

sadge no guys we are nerfed

#

be sad

spice hornet
#

woahh

lucid walrus
#

the 100% uptime CS talent got buffed

#

unreal

mild thunder
#

you silly, dont even know yous guys is nerfd