#pvp
warped warren
lean mason
Prnt screen? What are you from 2012? Just gyzao it
foggy hinge
warped warren
Prnt screen? What are you from 2012? Just gyzao it
hm, didnt know keyboards changed and now have a gyazo button 🤓
lean mason
Ye man it’s the new thing wyd
fickle forge
I just blink with my google glasses on and then it'll SS for me
eager mortar
shoulder for me then, would have gotten the bonus if I took the head from last week vault
safe harness
pearl prism
anyone else having the bug where ur entering some arena rounds with no stance?
I get it ewvery 2 games
cant see anyone talking about it
I have no buttons that can deselect a stance
There is literally nothing i can physically do to deselect stances
Yet every few rounds i have zero stances selected
its costing me likle heaps of rating
lusty moth
do you have a wa to track battle shout?
lusty moth
i’d either get into the habit of doing a little stance dance in pregame or get a wa
muted surge
Don’t you guys have the stance bar visible anyway
I see it pretty clearly what stance I’m in
lusty moth
or you could enable stance bars
proven sluice
I got the stance bar aswell, you can move it whereever you want it aswell
tawny elm
what to buy after weap with conquest?
distant hearth
what to buy after weap with conquest?
Personally I buy cheapest stuff from vendors
Then get big items in vaults
tawny elm
ah, i do mplus and raids as well so buying stuff is my way of gearing for pvp 🙂
onyx vale
bought the neck to get 3 gems in it
since you also do pve depends if you already got your pve set
if you did, then probably buy the tier pieces to convert them in a few weeks
but having to pick between pve and pvp items in the chest makes gearing difficult
tawny elm
neck is a good pick! did u go for primary stat gem as well?
elfin surge
hello friends
dark swift
Arms or fury for solo shuffle ?
muted surge
Prot
dark swift
-_-
weak swallow
fury just seems like bad DH
LOL IM SAYING
Annih is LITERALLY just their passive demon bites
Bleed build is a shitter version of soulrend
Aside from the fat bloodthirst crit bursts under 35% hp
thick reef
Saying warrior is just a lesser X isnt really a hot take just something that people whove tried other classes are rather aware of.
ocean shore
im just getting blasted in arenas as arms
thick reef
You deliver burst every minute, this is your purpose.
You burst then walk around tickling your enemy
thick reef
Fury has strong burst just not as crazy as arms.
elfin surge
Arms or fury for solo shuffle ?
fury prob
weak swallow
Arms is the go to burst
Cuz u setup dmg multipliers
As opposed to keeping enrage buff up and dumping fury on rampage when hitting fury limit
thick reef
A friend of mine enjoys doing 2's but I just cant take much more of it, its just not fun.
Maybe I'll do up a shaman >>
weak swallow
3's is looking to be rather popular rn
thick reef
3's is significantly more fun for warrior. 2's is just horrible.
elfin surge
warrior 2s is so garbage
weak swallow
I wont do 2's until conquest gear is maxed
Otherwise im competing with rich folks who have bis for the week were in
quaint bison
Enters arena
DH/Prevoker
well shit
DH blurs off mount. Ok this is winnable second setup
-DH makes me press every button in 20 seconds
now or never, blurs falling
John fucking Madden my CDs
DH falls over before he can even press darkness. Life’s good
weak swallow
Just reflect the hunt 
weak swallow
Eh
steep inlet
lol
quaint bison
Then I woke up from my dream
weak swallow
Theyre more cheese
steep inlet
prot has been nerfed 6 times
lean mason
Dude literally 1vs2 me and this other Warrior
weak swallow
They have like 1 burst potential
lean mason
And we didn’t stand a chance
steep inlet
problem come from u
graceful ginkgo
Arms is fun but youre so squishy its insane, idk how we got to the point where the guy wearing 300lbs of metal armor takes more damage than the classes wearing a literal dress but here we are
weak swallow
Prot has dmg consistency (cuz its a tank) and some nice burst setup
But not really enough to delete anyone like b4
lean mason
Whoever that warrior is. He got my respect bro
Dude played that class like a gigapro
On god
steep inlet
man prot eat other warriors easily
weak swallow
xD
steep inlet
its a hardcounter question
weak swallow
Dude played that class like a gigapro
Tbf, are you dumping a lot of dmg on shield blocks?
Thats a big nono i see lots of warriors do
Cuz its legit the 1 thing melee cant deal with
lean mason
So like we just decided to burst him down
weak swallow
Ye
lean mason
That failed hard
steep inlet
dont burst his front
lean mason
And after that it’s a endurance game
weak swallow
Im guessing (blocked) kept popping up?
steep inlet
its go on shield
elfin surge
memphisrains > @steep inlet
weak swallow
Cc the prot
steep inlet
if u want mud
elfin surge
memphisrains is like 50 years old
steep inlet
oki
steep inlet
y
lean mason
Ahhh got ya
weak swallow
You just lose too much burst potential
Way too tanky when you let him be tanky
Force trinket, force dmg reduction
Then cycle back to cc chain and kill
steep inlet
y
lean mason
When we got his hp to 10% and bamregen
weak swallow
Im not tooo familiar with prot abilities this expac but basing most info off SL
turbid ember
Do you guys bother focusing ele shamans at all? It seems like pressure doesn't stop their damage
weak swallow
Cuz tbh classes are relatively the same in terms of strengths and weaknesses
weak swallow
Do you guys bother focusing ele shamans at all? It seems like pressure doesn't s...
Im afraid of that class
I always stay on top in shuffle
Either me or my team is getting deleted if stormkeeper goes off
Then again i have lots to learn still 
turbid ember
I just remember sitting on top of a ele shaman the entire game getting very few casts off and he still topped damage for the entire arena
weak swallow
I just remember sitting on top of a ele shaman the entire game getting very few ...
Are you starting off with charge, or do you walk up and slow first
raw summit
once they get stormkeeper out there's also 2 insta lightning bolts
weak swallow
Most casters will kite you if you use movement abilities as an opener
turbid ember
Always walk up and slow if possible
weak swallow
I pref howling
raw summit
ye you dont have rage for hamstring generally
weak swallow
Usually if their team is next to them
lean burrow
I just remember sitting on top of a ele shaman the entire game getting very few ...
tell healers to dispel flame shock
weak swallow
But since i wanna get the cd off asap for next howl
weak swallow
tell healers to dispel flame shock
Oh is that a thing
turbid ember
But ele shamans have a dispel protection
Not sure what it is or what causes it
But it knocks you up into the air and damages you
weak swallow
I try to los on my opener so when i walk up i spell reflect
lean burrow
no procs if flame shock is dispelled
weak swallow
If i have no choice then i just take it up
Also, opening with defensive stance
Continuing till i have fury built up then swapping to berserker
turbid ember
Imagine swapping to defensive stance and not just blaming your healer
weak swallow
Mitigate as much dmg as possible
Especially good for rogue rogue or rogue dh or rogue mage comps
elfin surge
"idk what im dead to" - every arms warrior in every arena
weak swallow
"idk what im dead to" - every arms warrior in every arena
Still wondering how you deleted my healer 3x in a row in 2's in season 3 SL
elfin surge
muted surge
Stat bug
thick reef
watching fury plummet in PvE damage statistic
So overall buff coming, or set bonus buff incoming?
muted surge
Delete fury
weak swallow
*watching fury plummet in PvE damage statistic*
So overall buff coming, or set b...
Hopefully set rework or execute crit chance increase changed to execute dmg increase
Cuz we dont need crit rate on fury
Idk which mage main at blizz thought that was a good idea
weak swallow
crit damage on execute +400%
turbid ember
Make Execute, execute
weak swallow
In our dreams fury execute does more dmg than arms
elfin surge
dude fuck slaughterhouse delete it and give an honor talent that buffs odyns initial burst damage by like 300%
weak swallow
pearl prism
yo guys, actually serious question. I just got tier legs from raid finder, which just happens to be replacing my last blue honour gear piece - legs
turbid ember
But muh slow rolling MS
weak swallow
yo guys, actually serious question. I just got tier legs from raid finder, which...
No
Not worth
Stats better
pearl prism
even tho its only a blue piece and will give me 2 set?
weak swallow
Unless ur talking about arms here in which i wont speak
thick reef
Fury set bonus is dogshit
weak swallow
Are you pve or pvp player
pearl prism
pvp ofcourse
thick reef
Stats > tier
weak swallow
Ye stats
turbid ember
Kinda want to roll a DH if it's not gonna get nerfed...I also don't know what it does
feral heath
But it's like 420ilvl vs 376 or some shit?
weak swallow
Kinda want to roll a DH if it's not gonna get nerfed...I also don't know what it...
Dh nerfs arent real
Just play dh lmao
Always a good class
Especially if played optimally
turbid ember
But then I'm a dirty FotM roller 🤔
pearl prism
Kinda want to roll a DH if it's not gonna get nerfed...I also don't know what it...
411 vs 376
pearl prism
so yeah big loss in stats, but gain 10% dmg and crit to MS
weak swallow
Nah not worth stats are better
You're gaining 10% in ms to lose dmg in everything else
pearl prism
yeah basically
weak swallow
And hp
And vers
People already saying arms dies too much
Dont sacrifice what little life you have in it for 10% in ms imho
pearl prism
probs correct
weak swallow
Your talents give ms enough crack dmg
feral heath
Buy the cheapest pieces for 2set for conq after wep 🙂
weak swallow
I think we're gonna be able to craft in like 3 weeks no?
feral heath
I'm to old to understand this new crafting shit.
feral heath
Yes. I don't do more.
weak swallow
To make it ezpz
public order for pvp gear/ anything you dont care about
private order for your best materials / best items
Items being gems or anything else you cant just buy off the auction
And mostly people do private to get bis for pve
Public orders are like "fuck it i just want my pvp gear"
feral heath
Are the gems in ah no good???
weak swallow
I suppose
feral heath
Like why? Just to shoehorn in soulbind items?
weak swallow
Ye
Pretty much
You get the best stuff from earning the best
Which isnt too hard
Just pricing from individual players makes it generally difficult to get your hands on it
^more aimed towards someone like me whos always sitting on under 10k gold
If ur rich then always ez
feral heath
I just sell everything in my bags on ah. Bots buy everything instant.
dark swift
anyone wanna save me the googling and let me know what the name of the vers+haste gems are?
-_-
latent zenith
dark swift
kk ty
feral heath
As arms i feel like i die alot when targeted in solo shuffle is fury better for trying to climb? I feel stuck around 1750-1850
hard hound
guyes does the /tar Psyfiend work in arena ?
i struggle some time for target and kill him
weak swallow
i struggle some time for target and kill him
Id just click it at that point
weak swallow
Idk how valuable time is when it comes to that, still learning tbh
If this helps, id find a sp to duel and ask if they could use psyfiend and test the macro
tawny elm
yay finished SS for the week and wasnt called dumb
tawny elm
solo shuffle
tawny elm
happened only once today
weak swallow
The pain.
plucky juniper
cloak/legs/trinket not worth taking from vault? i have set legs from last week also and bought 2h with conquest
weak swallow
cloak/legs/trinket not worth taking from vault? i have set legs from last week a...
Imo whatever gives best stats for u
Also id check whats cheaper in conquest
And take most expense from vault for free
plucky juniper
well the best stats is pvp 424 legs over set 424 legs :D
weak swallow
Arms or?
plucky juniper
and arms yes
plucky juniper
i already have the tier legs yep, so i guess not worth taking the 424 pvp legs
:D
aight
weak swallow
But if u have equal ilvl in tier set i would just keep the tier since its also just good on arms
lean mason
Imagine leaving
weak swallow
Insantly flaming tbh
lean mason
And get less of a punishment
weak swallow
Constipated individuals
The punishment is harsh with the CR loss
But like, fuckin hell they need to add other types of punishement
15 minutes isnt good enough
Diminishing returns on cr gains as well should be added for consistent leavers
lean mason
Why not a suspension?
lean mason
Ye
weak swallow
Suspension should come as a last resort
lean mason
And if you leave more your banned from this season PvP
weak swallow
But its way funnier to see some douchewad not gain as much as he should
Demotivation is scarier than sitting against the wall for being naughty
If someone wants to be a manchild, blizz should punish them as so 
oblique reef
what is best buy for first conquest item
weak swallow
Wep
weak swallow
Wep outscales all
thick reef
Punishment shouldnt be too extreme for just one leave as so e times shit happens. It's repeated leaving that needs harsh punishment
weak swallow
@oblique reef your name
oblique reef
its nice 🙂
weak swallow
Konosuba reference?
oblique reef
yes my boy
weak swallow
Pp
oblique reef
weapon it is
weak swallow
Punishment shouldnt be too extreme for just one leave as so e times shit happens...
Pretty much
Rage quits will happen everywhere, being able to take advantage of a system that allows it is what makes it annoying
sterile carbon
why is it always people with the name "▯▯▯▯▯▯▯▯▯▯" that just leave SS literally everytime
weak swallow
Usually its anyone who doesnt know wtf theyre doing and talking too much who leave
Big mouth, smol brain
sage raptor
it hurts how wrong yall are
sage raptor
he gets it
feral heath
"You need to win 20 epic battlegrounds before joining SS again"
ocean shore
I thought solo shuffle queues would be faster after reset compared to pre
i was oh so wrong
lethal kestrel
sudden barn
What 3 things should I socket in my neck as arms?
thick reef
Vers/crit, vers/crit, primary/vers
eager mortar
any rated pvp working for you guys?
nvm always after reset rated gets bugged specially the solo shuffle
ocean shore
Arms: Vers/haste gems in neck and afew haste pieces to reach 10% haste, same with ring enchants on double crit rings. 2 piece set.
is it too much haste / should focus more on crit?
wooden grove
Arms: Vers/haste gems in neck and afew haste pieces to reach 10% haste, same wit...
A lot of people say 15-20 haste is best
feral heath
I only pvp gonna take a while to luck out on set from vault, why can't I just buy it for conq points..
maiden slate
was thinking, isnt good to run double dps for 2s, like with unhinged banner, u take a big UH or DH and burst down the healer
and just run down zerg stun cs spear avatar and double bs
who can survive this shit
feral heath
Everyone has a oh no shit button that makes them immune to dmg
maiden slate
nah
worthy fern
@maiden slate that will work til about 1200 cr
And then occasionally past that
But so many things will not die to that and kill you far faster without a healer
feral heath
I have over 100games in 2s with rogue warr. Cant get over 1400rating. We don't try to hard and aren't the best players. But it's really hard
Smokebomb on spear, if they live we lose
thick reef
who can survive this shit
The massive number of classes with strong defensive cooldowns, immunities, or burst healing and/or multiple methods to just shut you down and /laugh as you eagerly bap them with pillows?
green root
strong scaffold
do i need pve-set peaces for pvp ? got one in the (pvp)vault
ocean shore
still buggy
hard hound
ty
blazing spade
is arms or fury favored rn in pvp?
dawn mulch
no
agile aspen
when is preservation getting removed
lavish creek
is there something i can read on war pvp that isnt 2 months old?
tropic hull
Question for Fury - I see some differences in recommendations for secondary stats for fury. Should I focus more on Haste/vers or on Mastery/Vers? Is there build variations depending on which you go? Thank you for help, just now getting back into playing warrior this xpac.
scarlet barn
Well all pvp gear has vers afaik
tropic hull
def aware of that. I am more so focused on haste or mastery. In SL, haste was higher prio, but a lot of that had to do with necro banner giving mastery buff
elfin surge
if vendor has haste/vers you buy.
if it doesnt, buy the vers/mastery @tropic hull
tropic hull
if vendor has haste/vers you buy.
if it doesnt, buy the vers/mastery <@14714264...
appreciate it!
weak swallow
Does haste affect # of bleed procs, or just how fast the bleeds occur?
Or does it not affect it at all?
wooden grove
Don’t believe haste affects bleeds but I’m a 🗑️
minor vector
smoky anchor
if vendor has haste/vers you buy.
if it doesnt, buy the vers/mastery <@14714264...
U gonna switch to arms in the next patch?
stiff willow
which trinkets should i go for as fury pvp?
smoky anchor
Which do you like better for solo? Feel like sharpen is a game changer in solo shuffle
thick reef
are world serverse fucked or did i run into a bad polygon while on my dragon
got dced keep getting dced on login :l
stiff willow
if its auto logging you off when you log in youre in a bad spot. spam the spacebar during the loading screen. usually fixes for me
thick reef
ok
stiff willow
otherwise submitting a ticket on an alt is the only way. usually pretty quick
thick reef
you can auto stuck other toons on alts i may have to do that
stiff willow
yeah that. dont know why i said ticket lol
stiff willow
👍
wooden grove
you can auto stuck other toons on alts i may have to do that
Wait ten minutes for your character to despawn then just log back in
Or whatever else you can do to fix
limber wagon
get 525 conquest item from vault or socket? can we get socket another way ?
knotty tangle
think its vault only
torpid roost
I don't know if it can be done to pvp items but there's the item from the vault vendor
uneven turret
if Arms damage is really good but lacking in defense, can't you just stay in d stance more? that kinda balance it out a bit doesn't it?
sharp meteor
supa warr
red ether
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAYQc4yOBdQ&ab_channel=Supatease
You lose a lot of offensive pressure in D
So much so that's it not really worth sitting in D unless you're going to get stunned
uneven turret
You lose a lot of offensive pressure in D
ya i know but isn't the issue with arms being squishy? but damage is already really good
red ether
You do more damage than reduce dmg in D. It's in a terrible spot rn
zenith marlin
its worth sitting in D stance if both enemy DPS are targetting you
they loose 10% of their dmg output your team looses 10% of the dmg output
esp if they are heavy hitters and u are just mortal wounds slave
and u switch out for ur actual dmg windows
its fkn amazing
for 3s
its garbage in 2s tho
unless enemy team is 2 dps
lot more "situational" in 2s
uneven turret
why is fury using frozen devotion while arms is using sophic.
scenic maple
frozen slaps on Fury and doesn't on Arms
woeful solstice
knotty tangle
let me guess - fury is S tier
uneven turret
frozen slaps on Fury and doesn't on Arms
is it because of attack speed?
weak swallow
Fury is b tier according to most tier lists lul
scenic maple
that and with it on both weapons the damage adds up when procced
weak swallow
The mw on fury is shid
uneven turret
that and with it on both weapons the damage adds up when procced
damn gg, wasted 25k on with sophic devotion.
weak swallow
Loses its value in a 2v2 scenario
weak swallow
damn gg, wasted 25k on with sophic devotion.
Sophic isnt bad
Arms takes it cuz its more for the playstyle of "ok time to burst" so sophic proc helps w that
Personally im gonna take the mastery crack enchant for fury once i can afford it and have both conq weps
uneven turret
Arms takes it cuz its more for the playstyle of "ok time to burst" so sophic pro...
well fury is also kinda only bursty on demand....outside of CD fury does no damage
knotty tangle
lol are queues bugged becuase of this?
there are too many people queuing for 2v2s (and Arenas in general), overwhelming the abilities of the Arena-instance servers. The maximum number of createable Arenas is less than the demands. No immediate resolution to this is forthcoming as the devs are waiting to see the broader pictures, outside of the 2.3/S3/holidays playing spike. The other choice, adding in hardware and software support for a noticeably higher number of sustainable instances, carries with it far too many challenges to be undertaken lightly.
weak swallow
Where did u get that
weak swallow
So imagine everyone wants to play dps
native folio
2007?
weak swallow
Imagine the ratio of dps to healer
knotty tangle
yeah but ..think they actually have same problem?
uneven turret
yeah but ..think they actually have same problem?
...............why did u dug up an ancient 2007 post...
weak swallow
Nah tbh for 2v2 im pretty sure nobody is playing it much rn is all cuz ss is the shit
native folio
Makes little sense why an issue from 2007, which has ancient old hardware and situations than 2023
uneven turret
yeah but ..think they actually have same problem?
there is no problem with queue time for 2s/3s. Only solo shuffle cuz of severely lack of healer...its not rocket science.
knotty tangle
bruh
weak swallow
And ss queues are long because for every 10 dps thers 2 healers (not actually the numbers but to give an idea.)
weak swallow
What rank
nimble jasper
its prob more like
knotty tangle
1600 mmr
uneven turret
idk i was doing 2s and 3s last night and they were instant queues
native folio
I aint bruh, but I am at 1.2 mmr 🥲
nimble jasper
20 dps for every 1 healer
nimble jasper
people expected more but uhh
knotty tangle
and playing 2s with 17 min
weak swallow
🤷♂️
nimble jasper
who wants to heal a rando fury or dh that dives out of los
weak swallow
Must be why dog healers queue up so often
nimble jasper
without trinket
uneven turret
queue time will never be an issue for 2s/3s because teams are already setup ready to go. Only issue is the time it takes to FIND a healer to queue with.
nimble jasper
Must be why dog healers queue up so often
the mw that was about to go 1-5
uneven turret
idk i was doing similar MMR last night in both 2s 3s (NA), queues were instant
nimble jasper
left right as i killed his dh
knotty tangle
like we are 2 people queueing up
no eu streamer is playing
becuase they cant queue
weak swallow
left right as i killed his dh
I was about to hit a 5/6 match and resto shaman left cuz both sides dogged him for being ass
Legit hilarious
Right so for arms, i dont really see people use slam much?
I tend to spam it when i have nothing else to press
Should i just use it to reduce fury off its cap so im not wasting more potential fury?
smoky anchor
do like magnusz and abuse whirlwind
Abuse whirlwind?
lean mason
@weak swallow Yea man imma give up fighting prots
I’ve been out smarted so hard lol
And even then it’s a endurance test after that and I just have to take an L
Honestly making me consider making one because holy
quaint bison
I’m deadass about to make a dedicated healer to avoid que times
But not a good healer that’s hard to play, a chill healer so I don’t hurt my zug brain
coral axle
u already got a dragon man
quaint bison
Too many binds man I’m just tryna vibe on a pillar, throw a clutch cc or two and collect rating
zenith marlin
It aint easy being the 699th ranked Arms Warr in EU in Solo Shuffle
knotty tangle
zuggzugg press buttons
zenith marlin
But I do kill em
with dat perfect 54% win rating
it even shows my spec as prot
699th best zug zug here is me
hell yeah brother
LETS OGOOO
nimble jasper
evoker is pretty fking easy
quaint bison
Shaman looks fun from a playstyle perspective but then you realize the tuning is dogwater
nimble jasper
the good healer specs
zenith marlin
no lizard ever did
nimble jasper
are good for a reason
rdruid’s spellbook is why that spec will always be king of 2s
unless severely undertuned
nimble jasper
no
quaint bison
I’ve got a dragon, switched heals for 2 games and said nah too much going on
zenith marlin
they got nothing to do
knotty tangle
bad rdruids dont die to RM too
zenith marlin
Odyn won't tolerate lizard talk
knotty tangle
i beat 3,5k xp rogue mage on my 1600 xp rdruid
lean mason
True I’m sorry Odyn 
quaint bison
🫡
uneven turret
lmao
quaint bison
Everything that isn’t demo lock feels squishy in comparison
zenith marlin
idk I love fighting demo locks in 3s
Just break their 1 min CD shield with Wrecking Throw + Demolish
Wait out 8 sec Unending Resolve
Than make him use Demonic Circle
Than spell reflect and pop all CDs and ez kil
I legit wait them out for like 1 min b4 I pop off on them in SS
Which works cuz the other dps immedietly pops off or warlock pops Unending Resolve to get interrupt immunity like a dummy
this is atleast up to 1.8k cr so im probs up against garbage
they are just DKs of casters
ocean shore
Hello i went from 1700 to 1450 rating in solo today, AMA
coral axle
how high were you?
ocean shore
I wish I was man..
zenith marlin
just 2 flex kekw
Just gotta wait till u are matched with meme specs..
and win
like fury warr and retri here
walking memes
ocean shore
Im just switching between unhinged / spear build and road / bleed no skullsplitter and blaming it all on the specs atm
zenith marlin
wait that was holy lmao
ocean shore
in denial
zenith marlin
holy is also meme
I got no bladestorm LMAO
if I am rooted I sit it out
like a big boy
iron fractal
What would be best pvp talents for fury in bg's/open world?
zenith marlin
depends on ur pref my guy
iron fractal
Is battle trance that bad?
dawn hull
did something happen this reset?
coral axle
i've been doing slaughterhouse/warbringer/disarm for bgs
dawn hull
3rd arena in a row I die in about 2 seconds as fury
nimble jasper
you didnt press buttons
coral axle
did u forget ur pvp gear?
dawn hull
In full pvp gear
zenith marlin
just pop Enraged Regenration bruh
raw summit
did you wall
zenith marlin
and dont pop it when u are 20%
pop it when u expect their big dmg
go defensive stance etc
coral axle
dont think anything in the game is killing u thru rally+spell reflect+wall
zenith marlin
fk equip a shield and spam bloodthirst
coral axle
not in 3 seconds at least
raw summit
dont think anything in the game is killing u thru rally+spell reflect+wall
sin rogue + ww on you maybe
idk
nimble jasper
yeah idk people exaggerate so much
coral axle
yeah actually that might do it lol
zenith marlin
I consider anything below 4 GCD one shot
coral axle
yeah I consider it to be 1-2 globals
dawn hull
2xdh, ww + sub rogue, basically instagibbed me
dawn hull
couldn't press shit, no more than 2 gcds
nimble jasper
can dink you in 2-3 globals
coral axle
yeah ww sub might the one thing lmao
zenith marlin
I got a panic button for shit like that
where I basically pop every defensive and change stance
nimble jasper
idk ww is a spec you either
zenith marlin
altho usually I use them separate
zenith marlin
when all clones and xuen is up
raw summit
i like how much dam fists do
iron fractal
Its either Disarm, Battle trance, or Demolition I'm considering.
nimble jasper
yeah idk when i played monk
raw summit
idk man I dont play clones
coral axle
does disarm work vs monks????
nimble jasper
i used xuen to bait intim shout
coral axle
had no idea
zenith marlin
it stops them from firsting
nimble jasper
only stops fof
zenith marlin
fisting*
coral axle
ah ok
nimble jasper
so barely
raw summit
does disarm work vs monks????
doesnt
zenith marlin
which is why its good to disarm monks before bursting on them
raw summit
still get RSK/TF'd
nimble jasper
its more of an aggressive play to stop parry
raw summit
mich is NA
raw summit
like fof is actually really bad dam
idk man in serenity with FLS i get like 40k ticks
zenith marlin
that other gorilla there is just a WW player
raw summit
feels good enough
nimble jasper
idk how true the xuen shit is now that you can have invoker’s delight
in the talent tree
raw summit
xuen is decent
nimble jasper
cuz bloodlust on your pop is nice
but xuen dam itself is w/e for monk burst imo
baiting aoe cc is nice
distant raptor
Arms new arena meta?
nimble jasper
although if you’re in deep shit a good monk will likely just
trinket it and refixate clones
and go through
nimble jasper
i had tiger lightning hit for 30k after my TF
yeah they added the galeburst mechanic to xuen
raw summit
been having fun on the monk but it doesnt compare to fire mage during combust 
so i play that as "main" now
nimble jasper
monk burst is pretty nuclear yeah
zenith marlin
idk arms burst is best
all these other specs burst like over 10 secs
If I time 3 gcds its over
raw summit
that shit still hits for like 80k on a good day
zenith marlin
ait 4th set of deadlift
engaging my abs more rly took away the pressure from my hips and lowerback
instead expanding into the belt I just flex them
inside
sturdy sail
What's up with solo shuffle today? The que randomly just disapear
mystic barn
eu moment
torpid roost
I must have gotten into things too late
sectec never hit that hard outside of cold blood and I think that was a busted interaction not an actual OP thing
mystic barn
are you 1400 yet
zenith marlin
AH SOME LEATHER THINGS
nimble jasper
random onyx
Hello guys, best build and pvp talents for world pvp? Arms or fury
zenith marlin
whats a full pvp gear rogues armor
vestal quail
is there a problem with arena queue atm?
zenith marlin
yes so far every wednesday-thursday
its been like that
for EU
for all queued content
I imagine it's because their servers are overloaded
when u click enter queue u send a request to a server which is probably processing SOO MANY of them on reset day and thursday that there is either a large latency untill u can actually be processed and queued
or server drops ur request after a while
thats what I think atleast
which is shameful on blizz because alot of computing resources can easily auto scale based on demand
golden pike
did something happen to solo shuffle? my rating is now 0 and it was 1600 this morning
golden pike
aah ty!
proper sequoia
Is it ever worth to slam in anni specc?
zenith marlin
if u have bloodbath talent which I assume you do
basically if u bloodbath twice, bloodthirst is on CD u cant Rampage yet Odyn's Fury is on CD
and u are not less than a GCD away from Rampage with ur basic hits
than u can slam
which for me is like once a min
so those 3 talent points on slam I think are mostly a waste
nobody takes em I think
proper sequoia
Yeah thats kinda my feeling aswell, felt like I do a lot more damage when I stopped pressing it but just feelcrafting there
zenith marlin
I feelcraft alot
if u play long enough feelcraftin eventually u hit it xd
given ofc u try alot of things
proper sequoia
hahah yeah you have a point!
golden pike
crit/vers wep best to buy for arms, yeah?
proper sequoia
It's nice to have some options nowadays tho
zenith marlin
hell yeah brother
proper sequoia
and not just a one way street
zenith marlin
and altho crit is amazing, the best enchant by far is the strength proc one for weapon
as it gives 900 str for 15 sec which is out of charts
proper sequoia
Crit>Haste=Mastery
zenith marlin
^
proper sequoia
This stat prio not accurate anymore for arms?
zenith marlin
no its accurate
proper sequoia
where's vers in that shizz
torpid roost
are you 1400 yet
on 4 specs, not arms, lol
zenith marlin
For PvE vers is absolute bottom for arms
proper sequoia
ahh true lol
torpid roost
but I'm sick of explaining what happened, all the dogwater retards in here love to bandwagon
proper sequoia
I'mma save up all my conquest so far I think and see try out arms in 10.0.5 before I commit
zenith marlin
ye nobody gets off easy in the warrior pvp channel xd
But isnt that basically expected
proper sequoia
I don't think that's specific to the warrior discord to be honest
torpid roost
it is
specific, I never expected to "get off easy"
it was just retard shit though
fickle forge
ye nobody gets off easy in the warrior pvp channel xd
Post bench
fickle forge
Average fury warr
zenith marlin
in the university gym xd
wispy cedar
stronger than scoobz
wispy cedar
Oh yeah! it is that guy
brazen rock
1500 mmr dogwater players giving advice
zenith marlin
I got 2.5k exp in BFA S1 2s and I basically /whisper that to any bracket KEKW
Which I got 2.5k with PvE gameplay and ilvl capped weapon
wispy cedar
ur good. you have higher xp and bench than scoobz. it was the guy who posted before you
mystic barn
hey guys 2.7k xp solo shuffle here applying to your 3v3 group
fickle forge
3k xp pre-patch solo shuffle DH here
mystic barn
arms players that is
zenith marlin
LOL
proper sequoia
nice solo shuffle 15min que
torpid roost
isnt this the warrior that is 50/50 and lied about 2600 xp
I didn't lie, but, whatever tickles your pickle
zenith marlin
I hit 1.8k in SS xdxdxd
mystic barn
mine are 1-2 hour queues now
proper sequoia
AHH
golden pike
healer leave
love that
zenith marlin
I also dont have bladestorm anymore
proper sequoia
1-2 HOURS?
golden pike
least you only waited 15min
golden pike
higher you rank the longer you sit I've found
proper sequoia
I've only done 50 rounds so far, first time pvping for real since bfa s2
fickle forge
Or press Bloodrage
coral axle
Wonder how 2700 solo shuffle translates to 3s, sounds like about 1800 tbqhf
zenith marlin
problem would be logistics and communication
nimble jasper
for dh like 1600
zenith marlin
otherwise they must have the reflexes and knowledge
proper sequoia
Well to be fair you need a whole lot more awareness for solo tbh
torpid roost
there's a DH nearly 3k now
nimble jasper
not for dh
zenith marlin
Pretty sure they may need to learn more about spefics of all meta comps too for 3s
torpid roost
game seems to be quite well balanced, especially in SS
coral axle
Bet that dude pushes death sweep so hard
proper sequoia
So if you're playing 2,7k in solo shuffle you probably are a good player which can made be better with simple communication
nimble jasper
ahahahahahhaa
proper sequoia
if you're not DH then I assume? xd
nimble jasper
real 🤡 hours
torpid roost
I mean at that ratings bracket you're either very good, cheating, or both, even if your class is busted bullshit, you'll be facing your own busted ass class regularly
coral axle
Bruh I've never played spriest in my life and can only play melee but I got 2k as spriest almost immediately
fickle forge
SP only on 40% rep atm
coral axle
I still have no idea what I'm doing
fickle forge
Game is balanced
zenith marlin
SPs and Demos are least of my concern
nimble jasper
spread dots
zenith marlin
They die like flies
nimble jasper
eventually someone dies
coral axle
Most carried I've ever been by a spec in my life
zenith marlin
Our burst CDs recover faster than their defensive CDs
fickle forge
They die like flies
Maybe on 800 MMR
torpid roost
representation is not really related to power
nimble jasper
splay is prob the most braindead comp
zenith marlin
Time doesn'
nimble jasper
in the game
zenith marlin
change based on MMR xD
fickle forge
representation is not really related to power
torpid roost
weren't DHs underrepresented despite being bullshit?
coral axle
Yeah I just keep everything dotted and then mind games and osyfiend whoever my team mate is hitting
zenith marlin
loot at my happy place among my fellow trash Arms
fickle forge
I'm sure half the caster players out there rolled SP just cause it's fun
zenith marlin
200 mfs passed me in 2 days
brazen rock
I'm sure half the caster players out there rolled SP just cause it's fun
yeah im sure that clunky as shit tool kit is giga fun
lul
fickle forge
Prob the same people that brought Hpriest to 65% rep in SL
torpid roost
SP used to be fun, I really don't like the modern iteration of it so much
nimble jasper
sp rogue is free
coral axle
Yeah they decided it was time to win again
proper sequoia
Remember the days where you had one character?
proper sequoia
And MAYBE had one alt if you were hard core
zenith marlin
Which are meat grinder specs
fickle forge
Soon as SP gets yeeted, they roll demo or DH
zenith marlin
LOL
torpid roost
yeah, now I'm casual and have 2 alts that can compete
zenith marlin
Rerolling is easy atm u are right
zenith marlin
Easier than ever
coral axle
Yeah although no catchup mechanic on sparks/vault is a cost it's a very small one
proper sequoia
I mean you boost a char, get max level in 3 hours
torpid roost
should be balancing a DH in the fetal position on his finger
zenith marlin
Spriests are decent in M+ as well oddly enough but their stam buff isnt enough to bring them in
proper sequoia
do one day of gearing and GG lets go
proper sequoia
It's a different game now tho so can't really compare
zenith marlin
If u just stay apart from ur fellow buddies DHs legit hit half dmg
fickle forge
I'd rather have fast gearing so I can play alts
torpid roost
if you're gonna lock me to one class
zenith marlin
Me too Karg, but sadly I am a sore WFH banker
torpid roost
you better fucking balance the game
coral axle
Yeah I'm a terminal alt player so I love this gearing
zenith marlin
So I legti cant alt
fickle forge
And not grind 80 renown, 3 currencies for 2 legendaries, gold for legendaries, conduits, 120k honor and 20k conquest
zenith marlin
Well yeah
had to skip SL cuz time
large part of SL
Bought my legendaries rite up with token tho kekw
now I token craftables xd
p2w called
The 90k 900 str proc enchant is pseudo P2W ngl
just having that enchant should rank u 2.4k in SS
coral axle
Grinding gold irl really is more effecient than in game anyways
zenith marlin
ikr
wise dirge
Guys, whats better for Solo Shuffle or just Ranked PvP? Arms/Fury and why? Planing to main a warrior.
zenith marlin
Whatever you play better but Arms
coral axle
If you are some kind of genius goblin who can make more than $30 an hour playing the AH just go apply that skill to a real job
zenith marlin
that's the advice u will find here
And Fury HAS to whirlwind at every chance to cleave in 3s
feral barn
just leveled my warrior up to max, would i be best off buying a weapon with conquest this week then just waiting till next week for the other one?
or get some armor first
zenith marlin
Even then Fury is just poor mans DH
knotty tangle
god damn i love playing with arms war on my rdruid..i actually have to try to win
torpid roost
kek
knotty tangle
when u play with dh u dont even need to be there
torpid roost
one way to look at it
zenith marlin
my chest workout involves push ups btw
knotty tangle
the best way to look at it
zenith marlin
20 slow reps
wise dirge
And btw, does SMF work or is Titan Grip just highly superior?
zenith marlin
Titan Grip is 7% more dmg according to most
knotty tangle
@zenith marlin 60kg manlet confirmed
zenith marlin
I wish I was little less weight but I am 200+ atm lol
wise dirge
Titan Grip is 7% more dmg according to most
So pretty much SMF works
fickle forge
TG is more worth for defense alone, more dmg is the bonus
knotty tangle
200 pounds? same as me then. whats ur stats?
zenith marlin
I only lift high volume
I am more BB than powerlifting
I got no stats
Probs can dead/squat 3-4 plates?
knotty tangle
probs? u never tried?
zenith marlin
Usually do 1 - 2 plate 15-20 slow reps
torpid roost
shit'll still make you much stronger than average joes who don't work out/do physical jobs
zenith marlin
It hurt my joints alot but so good for cardio
Now I adjusted my form to it as well and it seems ok
Also that was 3-4 days a week I reduced to 2-3 days
Doing it without expnading into belt now I just hard flex abs
fickle forge
I stay in 1-8 range for compound lifts
zenith marlin
Tru arms warr style
torpid roost
for joint preservation/tendon health I think 5-12 is the generalized rep range
fickle forge
Scaling with strength, not stam
knotty tangle
i do 1-3
fickle forge
😎👍
knotty tangle
never injured
zenith marlin
My guy is built diff
torpid roost
DL is probably different but I don't train DL as of the past few years
knotty tangle
only lifting LIGHTWEIGHT btw
lean mason
Speaking of lightweight I need to GYM
zenith marlin
I hope being able to do roughly what I do as I grow older
So I wont risk any strong lifts
Volume slave forever
knotty tangle
strong lifts are fun
brazen rock
for joint preservation/tendon health I think 5-12 is the generalized rep range
this is a meme.
torpid roost
just tilt into it slowly, you'll be fine
zenith marlin
Esp was in my ratchet university gym with fellow rats T^T
Taking turns on 1 barbell
That was a fever dream
torpid roost
I've had joint problems for forever so I had to take it easy on that, apparently I have tendons of steel though
zenith marlin
They need that cardio for that click per minute gameplay
I think Prot Warrs are either like pro arm wrestling guys
torpid roost
both specs are too low APM
zenith marlin
Or biking guys
torpid roost
can't burn cals just playing the game anymore
proper sequoia
you should be getting to the top of the que really if someone leaves in a shuffle
torpid roost
rig up and omnidirectional treadmill once they get controller movement in the game
torpid roost
you should be getting to the top of the que really if someone leaves in a shuff...
agree, best of luck getting blizzard to give a fuck though
torpid roost
kek
proper sequoia
Can you join a group if you're in solo que?
nimble jasper
no but you can invite someone