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spark grotto
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I know i need the tiered things but like how many of each? 😂

dreamy summit
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1 of each rank

spark grotto
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finally pulling the trigger on this shit pay to win game LUL

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gunna get all the enchants

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stam/vers jewels really the best we can get?

drowsy wasp
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which arms build work better with spriest? bleed or spear/no bleed ?

turbid ember
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That seems like a rough comp

spark grotto
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arms doesnt work without a healer

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refuse to believe anything else haha

turbid ember
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I'm doing fury w/ a spriest, it's not great but I can survive a little bit to get him ramping

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I just played against a arms spriest funnily enough. We won

spark grotto
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man whats up with everyone being such lil bitches haha

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ive played 6 games with 6 different partners

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pug life is a night mare

fair tide
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Zoom zoom

coral axle
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yeah its why so many people will put up with solo shuffle being so fucked

mild thunder
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This is soo not true. Arms sustain damage is significantly, significantly higher than fury, and it has a more stable ms effect to go with it. Fury’s only damage profile is mediocre burst

spark grotto
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yeah shuffle fix would be nice, ive still never gotten into one

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queuing over an hour is usually enough for me to get bored and step out

coral axle
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really shouldnt be an hour queue if u are fresh 0 CR

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if its longer than 20-30 just leave and requeue unless u are playing at ungodly hours

spark grotto
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ive tried everything at all kinds of hours

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nothing seems to matter

violet fossil
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Damn y’all

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Arms is squishy

spark grotto
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agreed

violet fossil
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They’re making dstance baseline right?

pseudo flicker
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I don't really feel like I'm slapping as furry in arena 😦 kinda new to the arena stuff, I guess I'll go back to the tutorials.

spark grotto
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warrior is D tier garbage dont feel bad

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pray for buffs and enjoy tickling people while rogues shadow step your whole hp bar

wanton sun
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I feel like its such a waste to sit in D stance for an entire game of solo but if i dont sometimes i just fall over as arms

brazen rock
violet fossil
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Maybe they’ll replace dstsnxe with ignore pain

tired sorrel
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quick question whats the point having more CR ? pvp item still caped right even if oyu have 2000 cr

violet fossil
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Transmog

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I think at 2400 you can buy elite gear out right?

plain canopy
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I received my crimson glad 2H today. Should I switch to arms until I can afford the other, or will it equally benefit fury

tired sorrel
violet fossil
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Nope

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It’s 424 in PvP

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Something about being 2400 you can upgrade your conquest gear to 411?

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So it’s 411/424

torpid roost
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PVE upgrades yes, pvp no

clear sparrow
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what race should i be

spark grotto
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8 for 8!

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not a single person will stay past 1 loss

safe jewel
spark grotto
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whole class

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absolute shit

safe jewel
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Sounds a little hyperbolic don't you think

spark grotto
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no

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not even slightly haha

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every single class can do everything we can do but better and with better tuning

safe jewel
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Sounds like you have a very strong opinion on the matter so I won't try to change your mind. But Arms is doing pretty well right now

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Has weaknesses for sure, but so do many other specs

violet fossil
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they all have their merits

spark grotto
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so whats warriors merrit

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on either spec

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what do we do that stands out above the rest

mild thunder
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you dont have to be better than every other spec to not be dogshit lmao

steel trout
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warrior is not D tier xd

safe jewel
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Arms has strong sustain and strong burst damage. Which DH can do better, but DH is the most meta spec, so...

mild thunder
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yea, we're not a braindead SS tier pick, but warrior is definitely not shit lol

safe jewel
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Idk, does DH have an MS effect?

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Probably does, right

fallow parrot
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ye

steel trout
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yes they do

fallow parrot
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on blade dance

safe jewel
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Absurd lol

clear sparrow
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bro just got destroyed in arena and tries blaming the class

safe jewel
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So does DH actually offer everything that Arms offers

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Except maybe banner

clear sparrow
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dh is boring asf

fallow parrot
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dh doesn't have a disarm ig

steel trout
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no intervene, rally

safe jewel
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I don't mean literally

plain canopy
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We burst hard, but not the hardest, we are very sticky, just not the stickiest, we reduce healing to a decent degree the most consistently for sure, we root, we stun, we fear, we break bubble, we eat absorbs, and we can just keep doing it is the thing.

mild thunder
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arms has a fair bit more defensive utility than dh

safe jewel
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But the same kinds of things

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Yeah, I suppose that is true

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Goes very underutilised in most low rating games

steel trout
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arms just needs ignore pain back fr.

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or revert dstance

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and it will be good

safe jewel
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Which probably gives arms a worse rep at low ratings than at high ratings

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If they reverted defensive stance I'd be very happy

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Even if they made it 20/20 I guess

steel trout
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i mean right now its dogshit

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dstance is so bad

plain canopy
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Yeah it’s like never worth it unless something else has gone Terribly wrong

safe jewel
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I just hate all these little pvp specific nerfs, which don't show until you are inside the arena

plain canopy
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Anyone know if I would be more effective switching to arms if I only have one epic pvp 2hander? Until I get my other

long ridge
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epic mainhand and a blue offhand is fine

safe jewel
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I only found out yesterday that Executioner's Precision is halved in pvp

drowsy wasp
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When you play the bleed build, do you prio spreading rend?

safe jewel
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Rend is always priority for max pve damage

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If specced

mild thunder
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thats definitely not true

brazen rock
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well it is prio

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it has to be up

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and you take thunderclap in m+ iirc to spread it

ripe widget
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4/6 wins in solo = 0 rating change, it´s that real? wth...

drowsy wasp
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I mean in arena

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If you have the rage, do you spread rend or MS first?

violet fossil
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are yall able to get sparks of life without doing the campaign?

raw summit
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Weekly quest

mild thunder
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this is the gigachad pvp channel

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but even then, im not 100% sure... in SL you didnt rend if the target was gonna live <12 seconds or so, not sure if different now. probably is, since i know sks/tide of blood loses priority below execute

brazen rock
mild thunder
safe jewel
sage raptor
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does anyone have mes' weakaura mabob?

raw summit
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Psure it's on wago

sage raptor
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ope. maybe im blind

mild thunder
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If you can keep it up, keep it up. But ms and keeping OP recharging are always going to be higher priorities, and that very often will lead to downtime with your rend

lean mason
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Fury is Base Goku form

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DH is SSJ goku

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Notgonnalie

cinder thorn
golden pike
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does arms throughput seem low? I've been noticing meters in rbgs and arenas and I feel like ever when I have high uptime I'm just not putting up the numbers

sage raptor
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does freedom work on spear?

gleaming mantle
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is tier enabled in pvp?

raw summit
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Yes

gleaming mantle
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just see a lot of people on the high ratings not using it, I guess they just dont have it yet?

raw summit
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Yea tier is ilvl loss unless you have end heroic early mythic tier

gleaming mantle
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ah ok

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ilevel better than the set bonuses I guess

raw summit
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Depends on the spec

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My mage has 4set and it's p bad in pvp so i dont run it since it costs me 2 ilvl

clear sparrow
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what is main diff between fury and arms

raw summit
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How they do dam

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Also their pvp talents/defensive

clear sparrow
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what's the difference?

raw summit
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Fury doesnt have parry banner or sharpen

mint hill
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in solo shuffle is fury still the best pick?

vocal frigate
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Is second wind any damage or just direct damage?

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e.g. not dots

hollow pond
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Has anyone seen warlocks fail and succeed in gating and teleporting out of spear? What's the trick to make sure they port back?

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sometimes they do, sometimes they don't???

raw summit
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You notice how spear pulls back every 2 ish seconds?

hollow pond
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It's a pulse not just a static pull back?

raw summit
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There's a window before the pull where you can outrange

vocal frigate
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It only pulls if you reach the edge.

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If you stay in its boundary it doesn't pull.

hollow pond
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so if they teleport from the center, they can get out?

raw summit
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It's a bit fucky

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Personally cant reliably blink the pull but good mages can

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Assuming you can do the same with monk port/wl stuff

hollow pond
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yeah, i have a warlock too and i just stopped trying and tank what i can

raw summit
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Our priest is velf and does the same

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Just racials out lol

hollow pond
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but when warlocks were consistently doing it tonight against my warrior, like wtf

lucid walrus
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dead talent

vocal frigate
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If they halved it and made it only direct it'd be decent

wicked magnet
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is there a particular commendation (reputation) i should be picking?

lucid walrus
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they're all cosmetic or for profs unrelated to arena

thick reef
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We aren't pve slaves

wicked magnet
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well its making me pick one so i dont have a choice xD ill just pick the dragonscale one (solo queue quest reward)

frozen raven
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what are some good 3s comps for arms rn

violet fossil
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Legs and thighs

ripe widget
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Not mandatory, but easy 424

violet fossil
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Still have to farm what 90 primal?

spice hornet
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feral damage mann

wanton sun
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What should the damage breakdown look like for arms in solo shuffle? It's usually like mortal strike and bladestorm doing all my damage.

mild thunder
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i swear to christ

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its impossible to carry low mmr shuffle games

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fucking MWs thinking they're in m+ trying to fistweave in melee

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or ele shamans making me think they're enh because they only play in melee

mild thunder
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arms/spriest/x
arms/dh/x
arms/feral/x
arms/lock/x
arms/dk/x

craggy socket
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Fuck fucking DHs

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that is all

frozen raven
vocal frigate
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idk man I kinda hate evokers atm

craggy socket
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DH/DK/Healer

vocal frigate
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hover is kinda toxic

craggy socket
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how do you even beat that?

mild thunder
heavy basin
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best pvp realm being horde?

craggy socket
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DH can be played at 2.2k+ with any other spec in the game and win

vocal frigate
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Wonder when they're gonna nerf void shift

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How do you play around prevoker and demo

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Feels like I'm just waddling to death

pearl prism
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If they’re good you’re basically fucked

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Your team needs to be full chad as well to carry your

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You *

brazen rock
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ele/sp/dh/feral all good partners for arms

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ele your more of just a peel and sharpen bot for the ele to global people

heavy basin
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best pvp realm being horde?

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tichondrius, illiidan or area 52

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?

spark grotto
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is anyone struggling as much as i am in 2v2 double dps as arms?

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feel like my defensives do absolutely nothing cant live for more than a few seconds

mild thunder
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i dont think anyone plays double dps arms

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thats just troll lmao

lucid walrus
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think we’re still in 3s talk

spark grotto
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eh low rated cant be picky with partners healers rarely wanna q with me

mild thunder
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is anyone struggling as much as i am in 2v2 double dps as arms?

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i dont think this is 3s talk lmao

lucid walrus
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didn’t see that

mild thunder
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arms needs a healer

spark grotto
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well then tell them to stop wanting to be carried LUL

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or i dunno, where the hell do you find people to play with

mild thunder
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i dont think healers want to be carried, most of the time they just want melee that dont slobber on their keyboard and run behind pillars and flame them

spark grotto
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seems majority just wanna play with people double their rating for ez games, even when i do get people they just lose once and dip

lucid walrus
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lots of healers are given the opportunity to raise standards bc no one else is doing their job

spark grotto
mild thunder
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all the lfg healers ive played with that werent retarded, that was their biggest complaint

lucid walrus
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everyone was that kind of player at one point tbh

mild thunder
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especially about warrior players

lucid walrus
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insert clip from max about how warrior players are generally stupid

mild thunder
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its true sadge

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warrior players are absolutely the most retarded, generally speaking

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dh players are pretty retarded too, but they're so OP right now that you barely notice

lucid walrus
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it’s so aggravating that blur lets them dodge spear

past flare
spice hornet
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the 2s diversity feels horrible

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more than ever

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its literally 99% assassination rogues

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dont they get bored of fighting over assassination rogues all day

mild thunder
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its because no one else plays 2s anymore

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no incentive to push it unless you're a fotm 2s god

spice hornet
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yup

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shuffle replaced da 2s

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when you're bored and dont have all 3 on for 3s

spark grotto
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so am i basically supposed to just reroll if i wanna play 2s and cant consistently find healers to play with?

craggy socket
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Play DH

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Win

spark grotto
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causel ike dying in 5 seconds every game is mad depressing

full quiver
craggy socket
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Yeah the game is actually abysmally unbalanced

full quiver
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Because it's physical?

heavy basin
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Bro!

full quiver
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Does evasion dodge it too now lmfao

heavy basin
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best pvp realm being horde?

spark grotto
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im not really looking to just win for free but being able to play with friends who don't play healer would be nice

heavy basin
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What realm pvp best'

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?

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in horde

brazen rock
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for what

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wpvp content?

lean mason
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I think it's herod yea?

heavy basin
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Full pvvp

brazen rock
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????

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pick any server then wtf

heavy basin
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In which kingdoms do more pvp?

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horde

brazen rock
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emerald dream i guess

heavy basin
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tichondrius?

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area 52

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?

spice hornet
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realms dont even matter anymore for that stuff

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you go in war mode

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and you get put on a shard

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with other war mode

brazen rock
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Yeah but emerald has alot of Wpvp focused guilds i guess

spice hornet
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oh yeah it does

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and whatever server RUIN is on

brazen rock
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warsong battalion critcake

lucid walrus
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it’s on every one of them

spice hornet
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hahaha i was in that guild in mop lmfaoo

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theyre still around?

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jfc

brazen rock
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yup

lucid walrus
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ruin? yeah

brazen rock
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warsong batallion still around

lucid walrus
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warsong still is i think

spice hornet
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did some world pvp in hyjal and the gm was there and ginvited us and promoted us to elite or something

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this elite force is the first responders to any action in the world

lucid walrus
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rp-pvp guilds are still around

spice hornet
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something like that for tthe rank description

lucid walrus
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it’s crazy

brazen rock
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they can be fun imo

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its just cringe as shit from the outside

lucid walrus
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oh yeah

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there’s a guild on my server on the (very dead) alliance side that’s been going for years

spice hornet
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i swear ruin guild is a guild full of npcs blizzard expierment

lucid walrus
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i’ve never seen anyone in ruin above 1500 or with a positive W/L

heavy basin
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I am from ragnaros and I want to change my kingdom to a full pvp one
which one do you recommend?

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🙂

spice hornet
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its a guild full of bots

pearl prism
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50 min solo queue

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win 3 rtounds, gain 4 rating

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like im not complaining cause im only winning 3 rounds

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but like, holy shit thats really bad time investment

fickle forge
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It is

knotty tangle
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Try being a healer and win 5 roundes, but gain 7 rating since u ended up in a lobby 300 mmr below you

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Because there are no healers

fickle forge
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At least you get to play

knotty tangle
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Thats true.

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Still impossible to climb

heavy basin
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what is best in pvp?
Tichondrius or area52?

knotty tangle
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Realm dosnt matter at all though

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Pvp guilds as a concept died a long time ago

lucid walrus
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they're both packed

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realm doesn't even matter for queues

fair tide
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@lucid walrus Me and two others gave Ruin their "Are you not entertained" guild achievement back in the day. Arkhaos would wave it around like a badge of honor even though 95% of the rest of the 3k roster couldn't push past 1800.

lucid walrus
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that's insane

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"organized" world pvp has gotta be beneath even bg-only players in terms of how casual its playerbase is

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not a bad thing tbf

smoky anchor
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wtf man

fair tide
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I left that guild with a bunch of officers. Zerg mentality was honestly embarrassing to embrace. It was funny watching members get picked off daily because they couldn't hold their own in a 1vx without the help of 3-4 40 man raids aoeing shit down

lean burrow
spice hornet
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I’ve learned there is a community that premades low level bgs as max level players using that party sync tool

smoky anchor
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bros

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sharpen is like magic

mild thunder
lean mason
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That's evil dawg

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Like kicking ugly puppies evil

warped warren
torpid roost
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aaaahahahahaha that's great

limber night
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does bladestorm not care if youre disarmed?

autumn whale
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Hey fellas,
Hypothetical,
If I get 2k mmr
And then go back down to 1k mmr before end of week.
What will the vault count after reset?

limber night
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2k

autumn whale
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Oh good, I was scared to continue solo thanks

sharp meteor
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If I'm 2150 and win 2 then lose 30 in a row I get duelist rewards

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if I'm 2100 and lose all the way down to 1300 rating then win I get 1300 rewards

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just 1 win to "lock in" until reset

hard hound
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Arms or fury for war dh rdrood ? Imo fury but not 100% sure

fathom loom
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Both are good. Arms is gaining popularity - probably because you can delete people with crit combos. Fury is still stable. Play what you enjoy.

proper sequoia
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Not sure which pvp set to aim for, if I should go for arms or fury

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but yeah arms looks fun for sure

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I do like fury playstyle tho, stupid AF

fathom loom
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There's a lot of variance in what top players are picking for stats. Personally I'd go full crit as Arms and full haste as Fury

wheat jay
fickle forge
vague briar
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for arms what talent are people moving in order to get shattering/wrecking throw?

wheat jay
fickle forge
wheat jay
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Perhaps

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They looked similar

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Undeads same mog

civic storm
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Hey guys is it possible to macro “sweeping strikes and bladestorm” together ?

I watched a bahjeera video and he was saying the cleave damage is pretty nasty so yeah is that possible or not ?

I would check but not able to jump on for another couple of hours

silk flicker
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I was under the impression they didn't work together?

civic storm
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Sorry I should have explained it better , it’s so when unhinged occurs the 2 mortal strikes coming out from it will cleave , not BS itself

lucid walrus
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it's a half-gcd but that's enough to fuck macros regardless

civic storm
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God damn it lol

Ok thanks for the heads up

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Also I’m thinking of buying full honor gear for arms I’m still wearing haste from fury set

Arms = vers - crit - haste - mast ??

mild thunder
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crit/haste are pretty much interchangeable for arms

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dont buy honor gear for arms if you already have haste conq gear lmao

civic storm
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Nah I only have weapons conq , been playing alts so I’ll just use the crit one I guess

raven willow
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Yo lads, best way to deal with touch of karma?

undone pumice
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ignore

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or swap

lean burrow
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ignore and kill monk through karma

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kill druids through thorns

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kill dhs through darkness

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kill fury through regen

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nothing is stronger than your arms

undone pumice
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no but actually

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karma is smth u can just ignore

torpid roost
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holy shit healer queues are instant

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also you people are terrible

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I'm sorry I don't know why I said that. I know you aren't "people"

undone pumice
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you dare

warped warren
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💅

torpid roost
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You can't even comprehend english

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arms, apparently, the game has decided I have a MMR of negative 300 or so

safe jewel
torpid roost
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when I win fury games, I get rating points

steep inlet
torpid roost
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Right. Which is why I've decided it's broken, lmfao

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15-1600 fury, slightly higher (but not much) rogue, priest that just flipped 70 looks to be on a good trajectory, arms? Win 5/6, gain 8 points at 1191, played the game way too long, never seen this shit, but everyone in here understands it but me, because they keep telling me it's completely normal, let's revive this nowhere circular conversation again because Eto's dad either wasn't there, or touched him in the no-no spot

steep inlet
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your arms MMR is too low that’s why

torpid roost
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right, then how did I get 1500

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it's like it just sunk 600 overnight

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just in Arms, nothing else

steep inlet
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show your character name

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and serv

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will tell u

muted surge
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Unless he matches against 0 mmr

steep inlet
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If she has low winrate and mmr

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It’s normal

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show character

torpid roost
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not a she, picture is a meme, and no thank you, I know what's going on, I just don't know why, but it's trending back upwards

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it's seriously as if it was reset to like 0, not "none" zero, but like, literal zero, which I know shouldn't be possible

lean burrow
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too late

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you woman now

torpid roost
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well, my priest is

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a giant tauren stupid looking woman, and I love it, their casting animations are terrible

muted surge
undone pumice
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where mask@torpid roost

torpid roost
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Covid done been over

elfin surge
torpid roost
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#problematic

undone pumice
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woman?

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ookook

elfin surge
torpid roost
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unga bunga

thick reef
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Its vault day, dont forget to set your loot spec to arms NOT fury, even if you're playing fury
Because those useless shits refuse to make SMF viable

torpid roost
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what do you mean? It's only 2 talent points to do 5-8% less damage, it's a great deal

thick reef
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I will have your skull on a platter

undone pumice
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2 talents poibts and 8% dmg for double thunderfury swag

lean mason
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So like? every Tuesday is a vault day?

brazen rock
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yes

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or wednesday for eu.

muted surge
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It’s every 7 days starting on the 2nd of January 2023 if you are in the timezone utc -3 to -8

pearl prism
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did some testing with low haste in solo shuffle

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i.e. high crit and mastery

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its not good imo

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u need like 10/11% haste min imo

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simply cant do enough damage

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lost about 200 rating from switching to a high cri/mastery build with only b8% haste. then immediately regained it after going back to 11% haste

dire badger
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is there a good PvP fury warrior streamer/youtuber? for Arms I really like Laros but having trouble finding someone like him for Fury

torpid roost
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Bajheera plays fury periodically, or at least they used to

dire badger
safe jewel
pearl prism
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probs like 20

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like multiple matches

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more than 20 rounds id say

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probably 25

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did about 20 rounds straight after switching back to higher haste and it was night and day

warped warren
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petition to mute everyone who isnt multiglad in this channel chatting

turbid ember
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I'm like 1400, I may not be glad but I'm half glad

spice hornet
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@elfin surge how do you feel about warrior 2s

warped warren
elfin surge
spice hornet
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Who would win on a duel bajheera or mid

elfin surge
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baj

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hes massive

torpid roost
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The community

spice hornet
torpid roost
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I mean if we take it back to the 18th century method of dueling being big really isn't an advantage

elfin surge
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i love bajheera

spice hornet
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@timber forgel

elfin surge
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my hero

spice hornet
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Fury sucks

full quiver
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@median mothabuser

elfin surge
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thats me!

full quiver
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Where did u go for holidays mud u haven't posted ib like a week

elfin surge
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busy playing valheim

spice hornet
undone pumice
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wtf

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weirdo

elfin surge
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warrior B tier melee

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i can no longer play

undone pumice
#

shut up you mid boy

elfin surge
full quiver
#

Did you make it to mistlands

muted surge
#

@elfin surge when are you becoming a streamer?

elfin surge
fickle forge
#

Where craft Unity?

elfin surge
muted surge
#

Idk just assuming

full quiver
#

Unless they've done some kind of tuning since they first releases the open beta for it a few weeks ago

elfin surge
#

i mean

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im pretty stacked

fickle forge
#

It's apparent that Mud only lifts redbulls, cause he quits anytime warrior isn't at least C-tier

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😎👍

full quiver
#

Yeah u thibk it stacked

torpid roost
#

Given that my hours old priest that I literally don't know how to play and forget keybindings exist on is higher rated... I dunno boys, warrior might need some love

fickle forge
#

Or you know

full quiver
#

Wait until ur killed by thr durigible

fickle forge
#

Play better

delicate fable
#

I will enter soon Pepexecute

torpid roost
#

I never really had a thing for touching boys

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I am actually a decent rogue though

fickle forge
#

Now you just need to do the same on DH, and you'll be certain you're gifted

elfin surge
#

Hello,
I just rerolled Assa Rogue and it turns out, I'm actually really good at it. It just comes natural to me, my rating is climbing every game!
I've been struggling as warrior the last few years being stuck around 1300, but after playing rogue for 4 days, I just hit my first duelist! I'm even beating rank 1s and streamers!
I'm just happy I finally found the class that fits me and i'm naturally gifted at!

torpid roost
#

I haven't even rolled a dh yet and I'm already 1800

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On my dh

fickle forge
#

can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty

torpid roost
#

Kek, I mean I was decent at rogue even when they weren't brutally overpowered... which... has been like twice

warped warren
fickle forge
#

The 1 week rogue was bad in BFA S4, and Blizz nerfed versa corruption

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😎👍

torpid roost
torpid roost
#

^

lean burrow
#

Hello,
I just rerolled Demon Hunter and it turns out, I'm actually really good at it. It just comes natural to me, my rating is climbing every game!
I've been struggling as warrior the last few years being stuck around 1300, but after playing dh for 4 days, I just hit my first duelist! I'm even beating rank 1s and streamers!
I'm just happy I finally found the class that fits me and i'm naturally gifted at!

zenith marlin
#

Stay there heretic\

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being a weak warrior is acceptable

#

being a weak mentality warrior is heresy

fickle forge
#

I don't think you understand how hard it is to play Assassination Rogue. All this talk that we are "busted" and "constantly complaining for more buffs" just doesnt make sense. We are one of the few classes that FINALLY get to shine after all these years (looking at you MAGES ). Rotationally, its very complex for what we have to do to do "good" damage. Not only do we have to put Rupture on a lot of targets, we ALSO have to make sure our Kidney Shot is mashed on cooldown AND our Shiv is combo'd with it to do ANY damage. We lose everything if enemies use major cooldowns like Blessing of Protection. Classes like Mage and Hunter don't have to worry about enemies being smart like WE do. On top of all of this, the apm it takes to play Assassination is more than any other class has ever been. We are constantly getting FLOODED with Energy and if we ever overcap, its gg (that means good game). When I'm playing assassination, I'm never not pressing a button while mages get to sit there and hard cast Pyroblast (3 [three] second cast btw [by the way]). I'd like to see other people even try and compete with me as an Assassination Rogue because they would crumble under the weight of all the responsibility, apm, and mental pressure it takes to pull off what I can do. Whatever, I'm out, I gotta go do some high queues now, pushing for that 2k (2,000 [two thousand]) rating, later nerds.

torpid roost
#

Do you guys just have these copypastas chambered and ready all the time or.... kek

undone pumice
#

In season 2, only Gigachad healers will remain.

Strong physique. Strong mental.

All the weaklings are already falling apart and switching to DPS. Enjoy your 30 minute queue times, losers.

warped warren
#

i go by your pic

undone pumice
#

Hello,
I recently dropped my warrior after hitting 1800 by pressing 2 buttons and pve the healer the whole game. I've started playing sin rogue and Dh in 2s, yesterday I was playing with a healer that was hardstuck 1500 but I mashed bladedance and the hunt on my DH and I got duelist in about 4 hours. I also find it fun when I got glad in 4 days on my sin rogue by pressing deathmark, the game is very hard.

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here you go

/castsequence reset=20 Conqueror's Banner, Recklessness, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage

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As a rogue main, I have to say that I'm extremely frustrated with the current state of the class in the game. It seems like every time there's a balance patch, rogues get hit the hardest and yet we still see other classes dominating in both PvE and PvP. It's frustrating to see our class constantly being nerfed and overlooked, while others are seemingly immune to any balance changes.

I understand that the developers have a difficult job in trying to balance the class, but it feels like they're completely biased against rogues. It's like they don't even understand how the class is played and what our strengths and weaknesses are. Instead of taking the time to properly assess the situation and make thoughtful changes, they just nerf us into oblivion without any regard for the impact it will have on our playstyle.

It's incredibly disheartening to see our class in such a poor state, and it's causing many rogue players to lose interest in the game. I just hope that the developers will take our concerns seriously and start giving rogues the attention and support we deserve.

#

If there are millions of cuck warriors on the ladder Karg is one of them. If the ladder has ten cuck warriors Karg is one of them. If there is only one cuck warrior then that is karg. If there are no cuck warriors, that means Karg is no more on the Earth. If the world is against cuck warrior, Karg is against the world.

torpid roost
undone pumice
#

i have many in my clipboard

warped warren
#

random noname dog

torpid roost
#

Most of these are great, read like the average delusional forum post

warped warren
#

Either you have to delete unholy dks or i’m rerolling to warrior.
I’m so tired of their stupid double kicks, and their grips. My team stopped playing with me after demobolts nerfs.
Buff Incubus
I tried swapping to destro and whenever they kick my big spell chaos bolt, EVERY single school of magic is locked. I’m dead class for 7 seconds (resolve).
I’ve had some success with affli kiting strategy (mounted).
Please.

undone pumice
#

So many noobs in comments. Supa tease probably always has the most accurate tier lists and some of the best understanding of meta and comps. He is always putting out the highest quality ideas about pvp in general in my opinion, unlike many other content creators, i feel like supa has a good understanding of every single class and spec because he tests everything, not just his main .

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SUP SUP!!! Heartsteel draven maybe good but unfortunately the same cannot be said for my health condition! I was just minding my buissnes coming home from the post office proudly after finally getting my Winnable tank top after 6 months of shipping! Suddenly i hear ITS MEDICINE TIME!!!( just like Mundo) and this huge massive guy appears and starts chasing after me trying to rob me! I tried running but he popped his mundo ult and easily chased me down! All that he needed to bring me down was his heartsteel auto to one shot me and leave me unconciouss! I have been hospitalized and lost the ability to breathe without a life support macinhe! Holy hell do i hope that machine is not autofill support!

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spriest barely has to even cast and just facetanks dmg still high on meters and crazy solo kill potential

#

Dost thou intend to taketh my virginity?

None have tried. None have succeeded.

pearl prism
#

Can warriors use 2 handed weapons?

undone pumice
#

yes

torpid roost
#

I think that question is too long, let's pare it down to "can warriors?"

mystic barn
#

@full quiver finish what you were typing

dire badger
#

alright so dont roast me for this but if the average rating in solo shuffle is higher for fury than arms, why do you guys say fury is worse in pvp? is fury just better for low to mid tier solo shuffle but worse everywhere else?

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1650 average rating for fury vs like 1250 for arms

mystic barn
#

thinking ur looking a little too hard at that data

mystic barn
#

numbers can tell a story

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like that not many people have seriously pushed on their class

violet fossil
#

Is it bad to just go for straight crit?, I think I’m at 8% haste in PvP

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I main unholy so I’m used to having slow gcds

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Fancy meeting you here @mystic barn

mystic barn
#

unholy stacks haste how are your gcds slow

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hi

raw summit
#

crit is decent but like

violet fossil
#

I don’t stack haste much

raw summit
#

if you stack haste and just get lucky with em ur chillin

violet fossil
#

The haste I do have is just from having to choose haste over crit items

brazen rock
dire badger
violet fossil
#

maybe slightly more

mystic barn
#

thats an ok amount

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i lost a ton getting conq pieces due to stat distribution

violet fossil
#

yeah I’m right at the threshold

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do you have tier set?

mystic barn
#

1pc

violet fossil
#

I had to get hands /:

#

from last week

violet fossil
safe jewel
mystic barn
#

same

violet fossil
#

yeah

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im scared to go arms in solo

safe jewel
#

Fury has substantially lower representation at 2400+ rating in solo shuffle

violet fossil
#

wow lower than arms

dire badger
violet fossil
#

Look how far spriest and dh are lmao

undone pumice
elfin surge
#

fury and arms are B tier melee. Arms prob slightly ahead of fury now with tier.

undone pumice
#

how tf do u weirdos have tier already

leaden lynx
#

lucky in the vault

undone pumice
#

bitches

elfin surge
#

i dont.

undone pumice
#

yea

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fuck you mud

raw summit
#

yall dont have 4set?

undone pumice
#

shut up

safe jewel
mystic barn
#

pea brain mud

leaden lynx
#

unholy dk

undone pumice
eager mortar
#

had tier set from the vault but was head piece maybe I should have gotten so I can switch arms

#

kekw

undone pumice
#

i seethe

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and seethe

brazen rock
#

have 2 piece, confirm the MSs are juicy.

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my DHs death sweeps are 10x juicier however.

lean burrow
safe jewel
brazen rock
lean burrow
#

more like, .txt file on desktop

undone pumice
#

no

#

phone clipboard

lean burrow
elfin surge
undone pumice
#

ww busted

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even @raw summit can perform

elfin surge
#

yea but not s tier

safe jewel
#

There are fewer Feral druids at 2200+ than Arms warrior, though

undone pumice
#

cuz playing feral is cbt

brazen rock
violet fossil
#

feral is goated ngl

safe jewel
undone pumice
#

he asked u question

#

are u okay?

#

answer him

#

he is concerned for your wellbeing

elfin surge
raw summit
#

solo shuffle will over-push damage classes

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and put stuff that relies on setup down

undone pumice
#

solo shuffle is weird and fucky and easy

violet fossil
#

it means everything :>

violet fossil
undone pumice
#

even i can hit 2k in solo

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then lose 2 games and drop to 1600

safe jewel
#

I mean, if you want to rank classes based on 3s instead of solo shuffle, sure. However, seems like people are taking more of an interest in solo shuffle as of late

undone pumice
raw summit
safe jewel
#

So clearly, when I link solo shuffle stats, I'm talking about solo shuffle, not about 3s

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In which case, they are relevant

undone pumice
raw summit
#

solo is unplayable queue simulator

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zzz

undone pumice
#

the lfg boss was the main thing gatekeeping ppl from pvp

violet fossil
undone pumice
#

and now all healers are on strike in solo cuz its cbt to play healer in solo

violet fossil
#

than to find 2 other people

elfin surge
#

representation of a class doesnt always = the strength

safe jewel
#

Yes, so I'm discussing class rankings based on solo shuffle, not based on 3s. I haven't done any 3s on warrior in Dragonflight

undone pumice
#

true

safe jewel
#

Yeah, it doesn't always. But there's definitely a correlation

elfin surge
#

kekw

safe jewel
#

And given how few melee specs are above arms in those statistics, I'm asking you, what's between the S-tier melees, and the B-tier to which Arms apparently belongs

undone pumice
#

feral and ww

safe jewel
#

Perfectly reasonable inquiry

elfin surge
#

feral and ww

safe jewel
#

I'm willing to accept that, I have no idea. As I just said, I only play solo shuffle for weekly vault rewards. Was just curious. And you somehow managed to take offence to that

green wyvern
#

dh > dk > ww > arms

safe jewel
#

Impressive

elfin surge
#

caveman brain

violet fossil
undone pumice
#

dh = dk > ww > feral > arms > fury

elfin surge
#

tbh you seem more offending about the thought of me being offended when i actually wasnt. @safe jewel

mystic barn
#

cope mud

green wyvern
#

feral is a non issue unless you play for rank 1

safe jewel
#

You're the one responding with "are you okay"

green wyvern
#

most feral players suck balls

elfin surge
#

asking if u were okay man

safe jewel
#

Yeah, let's all pretend we don't understand what you actually meant

undone pumice
#

no we are genuinely concerned for your health because you said something that rarted

violet fossil
#

rarted

safe jewel
#

How endearing, I truly appreciate your concern

mystic barn
#

hes 12 be nice

raw summit
#

so cute

#

now kiss

lean burrow
raw summit
#

gilio and mud

#

the kid got nothign to do with that

lean burrow
#

I play warrior, not mage

#

reading is for nerds

raw summit
#

already went to the ww cba magus

#

just finishing up its set in a bit then return to warrior

elfin surge
#

according to my statistics and calculations disc priest has a higher representation than rsham in solo shuffle therefore doesnt need any buffs.
In fact, could possibly receive a nerf.

lean burrow
#

disc with 2 pain supps in next patch gladge

safe jewel
#

So if I'm understanding correctly, you're actually upset about the fact that I wasn't able to immediately accept that you ranked Arms as a B-tier melee spec? Is that it?

pearl prism
#

ive started doing solo shuffle while playing naked in my room and just wearing a nappy

#

it gives me breathing room and allows me to think easier

zenith marlin
#

this fkn bird wont stop chasing me

#

I dont want its quest

#

why tf would I want to do some reputation content jeez

hollow pond
#

Take it maw walker

zenith marlin
#

If I take tee quest and abandon it fkn comes back xD

raw summit
#

just take it and hide it

zenith marlin
#

very nice

scarlet barn
#

You are too young to post memes like that

zenith marlin
#

cultured men here

violet fossil
#

You are

#

Achshually☝️🤓

warped warren
#

i have now been in shuffly queue for 3 weeks

#

it refuses to pop

#

what do i do

scarlet barn
sly walrus
#

Mud is toxin

#

SMH my head

full quiver
#

@safe jewel are you good?

safe jewel
#

No, average at best

undone pumice
mystic barn
pearl prism
undone pumice
elfin surge
#

u okay?

safe jewel
#

@elfin surge Look I'm sorry, I didn't know your ego was that fragile. I'll never allow my practically unrated warrior brain to ask you to explain your 3.6k xp opinions ever again

#

Should just mindlessly accept it. My mistake

elfin surge
#

@fickle forge Look I'm sorry, I didn't know your ego was that fragile. I'll never allow my practically unrated warrior brain to ask you to explain your 3.6k xp opinions ever again

steep inlet
#

mud

#

did u try some arms solo shuffle yet ?

elfin surge
#

nop

steep inlet
#

we are so focused its infuriating

#

disgusting

elfin surge
#

both specs are focused

steep inlet
#

y but u know well arms has no sustain

wheat jay
#

Dont need sustain

#

Need more dmg

sharp meteor
#

nah need other specs to do less dam

#

its scary being on the map with shadow assa and havoc

wheat jay
#

Arms to do more

steep inlet
#

this morning

#

existance the m R1 war

#

was ultramad

#

was vs mes dk some DH etc

#

full focused

#

unplayable

elfin surge
#

ignore pain to arms would fix everything

steep inlet
#

yup

sharp meteor
#

It'd certainly be nice.

elfin surge
#

spending rage on IP reducing csmash cd

#

ooo

lean burrow
#

i got best idea ever

#

what if blizz made character screen show

#

which alts have vault unlocked

plain canopy
#

yo i'm confused. i just got a piece of tier gear from my vault from pvp (which i didn't know existed) and i looked it up and it comes from the raid?

elfin surge
sly walrus
#

Yea pvp and m+ can have tier in vault

plain canopy
#

the tier gear from raid scales in pvp?

sly walrus
#

@elfin surge big looter or too mad now?

sly walrus
safe jewel
#

Think the answer to that is obvious

sly walrus
#

u okay?

violet fossil
lean burrow
#

mastery legs are better than mastery ring right?

plain canopy
#

gosh i really just dont know how i feel about that lol. now i feel like i have to raid and do M+ which until now i felt really happy about not having to do. i'm just gonna continue not doing it and hope i don't fall to far behind

sly walrus
#

You can just wait for catalyst and swap items into tier set later I guess

sharp meteor
#

Three pieces of tier now. Neato.

delicate fable
#

Fucking did it! Took me only 320 solo shuffle rounds but got to 1800 Pepexecute as arms

shut tangle
#

yo which pvp weapon do i buy? the polearm with mastery right?

sly furnace
#

I’m waiting until they fix solo shuffle leavers before i waste anymore time on it:)

dire badger
#

What do you guys recommend from vault, Gladiator Plate Shoulder's or Gladiator Ring with a socket? Probably an obvious choice in the shoulders but the ring with socket throws me off

delicate fable
potent moon
#

I assume getting 2pc is worth not having vers on the gloves ya?

thick reef
full quiver
#

@elder wigeon Look I'm sorry, I didn't know your ego was that fragile. I'll never allow my practically unrated warrior brain to ask you to explain your 3.6k xp opinions ever again

thick reef
slow rain
#

someone tell me what to pick

wispy cedar
#

@full quiver Look I'm sorry, I didn't know your ego was that fragile. I'll never allow my practically unrated warrior brain to ask you to explain your 1.75k xp opinions ever again

full quiver
#

@worthy fern do u wanna queue tonight my schedule just freed up

wispy cedar
full quiver
#

When it sees u coming @wispy cedar

potent moon
runic cedar
thick reef
runic cedar
#

3 weeks 3 garbage vaults

full quiver
#

Where pvp vault

runic cedar
#

pvp in this game is trash

potent moon
thick reef
runic cedar
#

WHOOPS

sharp meteor
full quiver
#

Noob

spark vigil
#

what's the best weap enchant for fury?

runic cedar
#

i mean it used to be good

sharp meteor
runic cedar
#

its straight shit now

sharp meteor
#

It was even worse back then, lmao

cinder thorn
runic cedar
#

all the shit is now is who can line up a global 1 shot

#

uhh my vanilla rank 14

cinder thorn
#

So you played a lot in vanilla 👍😂

runic cedar
#

why does every nerd say that

#

you had to be number 1

#

not just play alot

cinder thorn
#

What you complaining about now

You allowed to cry about DH balance

But not in warrior forum

#

This is gigachad only chat

#

If you wanna cry go to another discord

runic cedar
#

anyone that things spamming bt is gigachad has something wrong with them

undone pumice
#

yea we dont like fury gameplay here bro lol

full quiver
#

Yeah but that rank meant nothing skill wise

#

Just meant you queued the most

cinder thorn
full quiver
#

I've still got warlord gear on my vanilla priest and it's because I was 11

runic cedar
#

yea like there wasnt other people, i did it 2 months start to finish

full quiver
#

And played 16 hours a day lol

undone pumice
#

@sand shadow

elfin surge
#

💀

runic cedar
#

you the same ppl that thought it was easy and couldnt get it in classic either

undone pumice
#

you were r14 in 2005 right?

elfin surge
#

pvp chat today has been cringe

cinder thorn
sage raptor
#

And MUD knows cringe

dawn mulch
#

I have the option to pick up 2-piece tier in pvp, is it worth swapping to Arms to make use out of this? I keep hearing how squishy it is and I'm still somewhat new.

undone pumice
#

be arms

#

cooler spec

#

gives you big arms irl

#

and big legs from walking around with your team on your shoulders

knotty tangle
#

I can verify

#

Swapped from fury to arms and hit pr on deadlift

sage raptor
undone pumice
#

shut up

#

poop

cinder thorn
undone pumice
#

p sure hes an unironic tarkov player

sage raptor
#

That game makes me rage so hard

turbid ember
#

I know I was always bad

runic cedar
#

yea i just got donep lay tarkov you stalking me

undone pumice
#

i clicked twitch link on ur bio

#

cuz too lazy to type twitch in google

runic cedar
#

actual creeper

elfin surge
#

big time streamer guy here

undone pumice
#

shut up mid

elfin surge
#

@amber temple

scarlet barn
runic cedar
#

plz dont insult me online you might hurt my feelings

undone pumice
#

@blazing oasissor

#

@clear halo

elfin surge
#

Look I'm sorry, I didn't know your ego was that fragile. I'll never allow my practically unrated warrior brain to ask you to explain your 3.6k xp opinions ever again

runic cedar
#

cya guys, dont even know how i was on this channel, continue on in your cesspool

thick reef
undone pumice
#

only yours

smoky anchor
#

god fucking dammit lmao my options for pvp vault are non-tier legs, ring, and neck

undone pumice
#

real men playing sin + arms 2s no healer needed

scarlet barn
smoky anchor
#

feel like i have to go legs, but if i do, i'll probably get tier legs the following week

#

RIP

scarlet barn
#

Being furry is disturbing

thick reef
turbid ember
scarlet barn
#

Just go for it

thick reef
#

Stupid phone typing

undone pumice
#

every time you post one of your panda mogs i only think about how you felt mogging that

#

and i am disturbed

#

to my very core

smoky anchor
turbid ember
#

Well, at least one person liked the pandas being added

undone pumice
undone pumice
#

you have neckbeard presence through pictures

#

it is an achievement

thick reef
#

Sounds like your just an easily disturbed snowflake

undone pumice
#

text to speech user?

thick reef
#

Mean furry has thing that makes me sad, abloo abloo

scarlet barn
#

u okay?

undone pumice
#

disgusting furry makes me uncomfortable by being disgusting

#

how dare i complain

sharp meteor
#

Guys look how edgy and manly I am. keks

thick reef
#

Careful you don't melt

iron basalt
#

yoooo -- is it worth grabbing the non-tier shoulders from the vault even though I want the tier shoulders? I'll be able to convert these shoulders to tier on jan 23, right? or should I grab the tokens

undone pumice
#

yes

sharp meteor
#

Yeah.

cinder thorn
iron basalt
#

cool ty

scarlet barn
#

@graceful quarry

#

damn it i wasnt fast enough

smoky anchor
thick reef
#

Ilvl is still ilvl at the end of the day and the odds are heavily against you getting the tier next week anyway

sharp meteor
smoky anchor
#

alright time for an actual pvp question. hypothetically, if I have unhinged, it is better to bladestorm on the single kill target than over a group of people correct

thick reef
#

I forget at times wow is still filled with the edgy early millinium sorts who still think decade old memes about the furry menace are still relevant.

smoky anchor
#

for them fatty mortal strikes

thick reef
#

Depends on what your going for at the time. Generally yes you want to isolate the MS

smoky anchor
#

so i am royally effed against demo locks and should go execute build in a demo lock lobby

#

i mean unhinged essentially does nothing against them

thick reef
#

Demo locks are many degrees of bullshit yes

#

Unhinged should never apply to pets imo but good luck that ever happening

#

Would cost a raid tier

sharp meteor
#

Blowing up a Hunter and their raptor is kind of hilarious.

thick reef
#

Hunters often shut down when their pet dies

#

It's kinda funny

smoky anchor
#

when do the mortal strikes come out? i never notice it

#

is it like

#

1/3 of the way in, then 2/3 of the way in?

shy geyser
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Oh no guys... 415 Signet of Melandrus or 405/424 tier chest.... We can turn conq gear into tier soon right?

thick reef
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I think it's at the start at once. Go smack a test dummy to find out

sharp meteor
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Def worth grabbing it now.

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Filling out the rest later.

smoky anchor
shy geyser
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but i prolly pvp more than pve

smoky anchor
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and during legion

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but i'm not sure anymore

shy geyser
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whats it gonna take to change conq to tier set? is it easy?

undone pumice
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go to catalyst

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put in piece

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press button

shy geyser
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uses valor or what?

sharp meteor
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You can throw one piece of conq gear in weekly.

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Probs just honor.

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Or w/e.

shy geyser
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oh dope

smoky anchor
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i wonder what the currency will be in this iteration of it

shy geyser
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blood token i hope i got like 10k of thos elol

smoky anchor
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they should piss m+ players off and make the currency be the capped valor

undone pumice
sharp meteor
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1/4 on main warr, 3/4 on alt warr. deadge

smoky anchor
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why

sharp meteor
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I have like 5 warriors.

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I'm like Mud from Wish.

stuck karma
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Lmao

smoky anchor
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tfw i could have been playing DH all this time instead of this virgin beta warrior but my buddy already plays DH so i didn't want to double up...he's still lvl 68 rip

sharp meteor
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Takes like 5 mins to gear a char.

smoky anchor
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true

sharp meteor
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My dK that I hit 70 on yesterday is like 405 ilev only missing boots

smoky anchor
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lol

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how are you liking it

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in arena

sharp meteor
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So many globals of setup

smoky anchor
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do they have some fucky ability that prevents them from dying

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i swear i was chasing around a dk at <2% health

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spamming execute and it wasn't budging

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not sure if i was tripping out or what

sharp meteor
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Necropolis got nerfed I think.

wheat jay
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Yo i Heard we laughing at fury again

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That true?

sharp meteor
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God lord does this spec just melt into physical dps keks

smoky anchor
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dude

thick reef
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Tempted to make a shaman so I can pretend I'm a smf warrior

smoky anchor
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yea

smoky anchor
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and big dick mortal strike into execute crits

thick reef
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yea idk i seem to do fine against arms as fury in these shuffles

smoky anchor
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last night this mage actually managed to get a glacial spike off in the first round

crit a rogue for 160k, dead

rest of the lobby all he did was spam ice lance while getting trained by a rogue/war/dk

clear sparrow
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Shuffle critcake critcake critcake critcake

thick reef
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i can only stare at lfg so long before i get bored

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atleast i know that'll pop eventually lol

brazen night
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I went into a coma no less than 3 times waiting for shuffles last week

thick reef
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sustained hardon > 2 pump chump

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ez

wheat jay
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If you're over average wait time

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Requeue

smoky anchor
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150k was like 1.5 weeks ago

brazen night
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also I miss comp stomp. wtb more free honor

stoic tide
thorn herald
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tfw u haymaker dhs out of darkness

violet fossil
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I miss bg week

thorn herald
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😩

sharp meteor
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Punch racial is cool.

thorn herald
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yeah

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its been fun

compact heron
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has anyone figured out a way to get unphased in obsidian throne quick? i cobalt leveled a toon and im phased from all the groups...do i have to do the questline up to it>

zenith marlin
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What

cinder thorn
zenith marlin
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that some sort of pve thing?

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@cinder thorn let me find my SS and circle back to u

compact heron
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no, all the sprark groups are overt there?

zenith marlin
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And I am not one of the heavy hitters here

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but that's 212k MS on PvP dummy

smoky anchor
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Fix your transmog

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It's not kino

zenith marlin
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wtf is kino

smoky anchor
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Armor is not a good look, why r u hiding your beautiful green skin

scarlet barn
slow rain
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if I get tier from the vault or use conq gear in the catalyst will they have the same stats or different

smoky anchor
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Same stats

zenith marlin
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just wait catalyst

smoky anchor
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Same gem slots, tertiary

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Oh I mean

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The tier will have tier stats

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But it will carry over your tertiary and gem slots

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But ya you could convert say a mastery/vers piece into whatever the tier pieces have

slow rain
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Okay thanks

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#pvp message I posted what I got this week and I still haven't made a decision because I already have the pvp tier helm and the other 2 choices are pretty bad

compact heron
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Feeding pits is hoppin too apparently

smoky anchor
zenith marlin
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wee hit 1750 in SS

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Bullied a DK

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wtih a 110k execute into a 110 mortal strike xd