i miss arms from before wod destruction
#pvp
onyx vale
hollow smelt
intervene banner
onyx vale
and legion arms was pretty fun to play too, in pve
hollow smelt
that was good too
remmember on df beta when arms had banner as talent
but then they removed it
crystal laurel
execute critting for 140k feels good against cloth wearer
hollow smelt
playing any specific build?
onyx vale
good thing they removed the stupid banner
thick reef
Woo 2.1 in shuffle f me that took forever
hollow smelt
Woo 2.1 in shuffle f me that took forever
congratz
thick reef
Starting to get hard I'm a shitter lol
hollow smelt
i wonder what will the 2.1 enchant look like
thick reef
Don't see myself getting 2.4 in this
thick reef
Gonna be alot of demonhunter legends
thick reef
Yea its dumb
wooden grove
fair tide
holy shit, biggest crit so far
undone pumice
4pc owner?@fair tide
fair tide
4pc owner?<@297936451666968576>
3pc QQ
zenith marlin
just 5 more kills to complete my fkn spark fo thel ife quest
95 kills rn
its starting to hurt my soul
zenith marlin
thats pve
undone pumice
it gives you sparks of life
undone pumice
its also not pve its player vs literal dirt
undone pumice
barrens questing is culling wildlife and quillboar
zenith marlin
I love it when warbreaker crits 60k and execute crits 120k and game ends
lol this DH in world pvp with 250k HP used the hunt right into my spear
and died in 3 GCDs
fair tide
Warbreaker better than blunt?
zenith marlin
stupid fkn DH
just CR sap
Warriors should be able to one shot fkn DHs
their entire class should be like anti-caster
undone pumice
Warbreaker better than blunt?
personal pref
but in 2s blunt is better 100% of the time
in 3s and ss its pref
and in rbgs wb better imo
dusk crane
Any consensus on what to buy with conq after weapon as fury?
tribal wedge
bought the neck to enchant it
mild mango
as arms crit build do i need s certain amount of haste or just say screw haste?
past flare
hi, i got 2k6 honor points, i need weapons, rings and feet, what should i buy first ?
long ridge
weapons, honor is really easy to get
past flare
ok ty
torpid roost
fury is like you're a shitty dps and a shitty healer at all times
past flare
Arms has biggest dmg than fury ?
undone pumice
arms has biggest dick
torpid roost
bigger effective damage
dusky blaze
sup guys
quick questions regarding fury in arena
what is better spear or dragon roar
thick reef
Dont know why ya'll feel the need to exaggerate. Fury burst is very high, just not at the two shotting on crits level of arms.
dusky blaze
fury viable for glad this ssn?
smoky anchor
Feel like on paper it should be the better spec than arms
But then I queue arms
Stun smash spear sweeping strikes sharpen avatar kills like 40% of ppl out the gate, then 1.5 minutes later you get a kill almost guaranteed on round 2 with more dampen
Trick is staying alive that long
dusky blaze
im stuck between spear and roar man whats the best
thick reef
fury viable for glad this ssn?
Arms better with a good team and high MMR solo que.
Arms has higher burst, is made of paper, and has less sustain.
Fury has strong burst but not on arms level, but higher sustain and harder to kill.
thick reef
im stuck between spear and roar man whats the best
Depends on what you're fighting
sharp meteor
im stuck between spear and roar man whats the best
spear unless they have an easy out
dusky blaze
true arms is easier to get glad with as im 3x glad as arms
ive checked the ladders there are plenty of 2.4+ furys as well
thick reef
Overall Arms is better simply because fury is still fairly squishy despite being not as squishy as arms.
So their main advantage is more a moot point so long as you have people to compesnate
dusky blaze
i feel like roar can be better as it increases 15% bleeds at all times
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this is my talent
please let me know what needs to be changed
thick reef
Really just depends on the comp.
DF is about knowing when to change your build for each match
copper hare
every spec is viable.
nah prevoker aint viable
brazen rock
nah prevoker aint viable
kek
smoky anchor
Overall Arms is better simply because fury is still fairly squishy despite being...
Spamming bloodthirst is a ton of healing though
thick reef
Spamming bloodthirst is a ton of healing though
hah
Funny enough cant tell if you're being serious or not since so many warriors seem to consider any amount of self healing to be OP
Is their a calculator up for the patch arms for playing aruond with?
lean mason
We got self heals for days yet still average
But others think otherwise
I think people gotta understand it’s not the class it’s the person behind it
Expect if you a Druid then.. idk
undone pumice
leaving still not fixed?
hollow smelt
nope
smoky anchor
No it's not
hollow smelt
i won like 10 games 5/6
smoky anchor
Honestly I'm surprised more people don't leave
hollow smelt
and people leave
smoky anchor
Well tbf the hardest part of being to 2k in arena has always been finding teammates
wheat jay
Lol
undone pumice
the lfg boss is literally so hard
undone pumice
you need to chain them
wheat jay
Their arena q times
undone pumice
steal his shoes
wheat jay
Their homes
There's no privacy and solitude until there's a shiny dragon underneath me
zenith marlin
DHs are op yes
but also lots of sweatlords who haven't touched grass in decades have rerolled to DH
Cuz they are op
which makes them more op
Fk dragon I ride wolves only
Flying is for flyboys
smoky anchor
DHs are op yes
I played against an actually good one the other day
They're actually decently slippery
Was really hard to kill even after blur cause he kept jumping away. Felt like chasing a monk
dusk mauve
When/do we hold mortal strike for a 2nd overpower stack?
zenith marlin
their skill expiring dealing a off GCD stun while we must GCD just to sweep is abit mind boggling but o well
have enough off time to use sweep before charging so..
thick reef
their skill expiring dealing a off GCD stun while we must GCD just to sweep is a...
Dont forget their weirdly high self healing!
Fuck me dh are a pain in the ass. And they're so dull to play. Could play that class with one action bar.
torpid roost
DH is amazingly overpowered, they just aren't fun to play
Their kit sucks from a fun perspective, really powerful though
I'll stick with my slightly behind the curve really fun class
zenith marlin
They are not fun to play agaist
When they don't move /AFK in world pvp I can kill them in 3 GCDs
so whatever buttons they mash makes them immortal idk
lucid walrus
rogues who do half the damage of everyone else and paladins who sac before combat even starts
wanton sun
Any tips for fury to get to 1800 in solo for the mog? Tried both a BT and raging blow build. I'm trying to use defensive and peel for healer with stun/fear when possible. I'm usually pretty high damage but sometimes can't get help from my team
lucid walrus
alt shuffle is insane
zenith marlin
Why do u want the fiery shaman style set anyway
undone pumice
collecting purposes
zenith marlin
I think my tip would be to ask you to roll Arms
But I too enjoy fury so
Idk try to whirlwind more
Fury has good pvp cleave nobody uses it tho
talent the whirlwind to ur odyns fury
U can spread gushing wounds and rampage stacks and obv rampage
Fury actually can hit as hard as DH if enemies arent too mobile and tohrther
wanton sun
Yeah. That's the other problem. Even with piercing howl and hamstring I sometimes have a hard time staying on some people. 😦
thick reef
If you're pushing for just 1800 in solo you're better off Fury imo
zenith marlin
Because u arent meant to stay on some ppl
U simply dont stay on resto druids for example for long
thick reef
You only need to be on someone for the few seconds your burst window is open.
Then you watch one of the half dozen classes that can disarm you and cry in your corner.
zenith marlin
Spris and Warlocks are ez to stay on
wanton sun
I thought about playing arms but I'm so unfamiliar with it. It's been a long time since I've played my warrior
wanton sun
Okay. Good to know.
wanton sun
DH are immortal though I feel like
thick reef
You need to talk your team mate into focusing on melee so you can murder fuck them
wanton sun
At least in solo
thick reef
And also just plain always target Paladins because they're a joke
zenith marlin
U need to act know DH's CDs to kill them, arms is better at that
wanton sun
You need to talk your team mate into focusing on melee so you can murder fuck th...
Unless I'm the only melee. XD played earlier with 3 other caster dps
zenith marlin
ye that hurts with 30 min queues
but caster dps are ez to stay on unless evoker or mage
wanton sun
I can usually get enough pressure on DH to get blur and darkness but then after it's tough
zenith marlin
even mage if fire
wanton sun
I'll try to remember that.
thick reef
U need to act know DH's CDs to kill them, arms is better at that
Eh, at least in low MMR solo I've had little problem with DH nowadays. Their defense relies on them keeping their demon up. So I either just kite/avoid the fucker till demon fades, or chain CC them so the demon cant self heal.
wanton sun
Okay. Good to know.
brazen rock
Eh, at least in low MMR solo I've had little problem with DH nowadays. Their def...
...what
do you have no idea how fodder works
wanton sun
Lol
thick reef
I mean their demon form
brazen rock
right
brazen rock
its a pretty simple class with all of its burst tied to essence break > death sweep and eyebeam 🙂
zenith marlin
Did it with rogues, mages, and WW was very useful
brazen rock
yes
wanton sun
Okay
zenith marlin
Usually I guess
wanton sun
Cause I always try if I can
brazen rock
its tilting as fuck on my dh when it gets kicked
thick reef
Metamorphosis has heavy leech doesnt it? Or am I misremembering?
nimble jasper
not heavy anymore
brazen rock
meta gets extra 10% leech ontop of base 10%.
zenith marlin
some mfs cancel it no?
undone pumice
menace good talent?
zenith marlin
so as to not get locked
nimble jasper
you dont get the haste if the channel doesnt complete
zenith marlin
nice
thick reef
I just know I've had a lot of luck just shutting down the meta and facing it foward to burst it down
zenith marlin
their offensive giving them defense is fkn annoying
nimble jasper
or a full cyclone/fear/poly
thick reef
Again this is low rank so maybe the DH there are confident in their abilities so dont do their other shit when metaed.
nimble jasper
is going to be more value often
zenith marlin
imagine if we clicked Avatar and got armor
nimble jasper
people who kick wizards on their damage are weird
zenith marlin
And we should cuz it gave max HP in Warcraft 3
nimble jasper
kicking full cc more worth
thick reef
their offensive giving them defense is fkn annoying
Activate avatar gaining 10% leech, 15% health, and 15% armor.
nimble jasper
unless its destro
zenith marlin
sounds warcraft 3 xd
nimble jasper
then being chaos lock stops all
thick reef
If we're going on WC3 then give warriors mirror image and invisibility
zenith marlin
what is destro
nimble jasper
it was 30 in legion
zenith marlin
Havent seen one since BFA s3
undone pumice
dhs need a 5 second gcd
undone pumice
but it sucks
nimble jasper
its fine
thick reef
Let warriors have a self heal that activates on number of attacks. Every 5 skills heals for 10%
Its pretty much what shamans get.
nimble jasper
nullifying shroud still the most broken ability
thick reef
Lizards are furries
Scalies you ignorant fuck
nimble jasper
same shit
thick reef
It really is depressing looking at other classes kits isnt it.
nimble jasper
no just evoker
warlocks keep asking for mop lock back
when you could cast everything while moving
rofl
undone pumice
let us use glyph of gushing wound first please
thick reef
Gladiator stance, discontinued for being too tanky.
Now other melee dps are tanky and its ok for some reason.
nimble jasper
psure it was because blizz didnt want to balance another spec
fury is decently tanky pve wise
thick reef
Every Drakthyr we meet melees and they talk about a black dragon tank spec but naw, two sepcs
brazen rock
Gladiator stance, discontinued for being too tanky.
Now other melee dps are tan...
at the time gladiator stance was leagues above every other melee in terms of survive
comparing gladiator to now is pointless.
brazen rock
yeah it was
nimble jasper
not good
brazen rock
shield slam dispel carried it
thick reef
*at the time* gladiator stance was leagues above every other melee in terms of s...
I would agree if not for other melee have over time gotten more defensives while warrior has... lost them.
brazen rock
I would agree if not for other melee have over time gotten more defensives while...
theres nothing to agree or not agree about.
the game changes over time
thick reef
I know, I'm saying other classes have evolved, while warrior has not.
nimble jasper
what melee has gotten more defensives
genuinely curious
all of them have lost
that existed in wod
nimble jasper
cloak was a 1min cd
feint had no cd
and was 50% aoe dr
now its 40
cheat used to be 2min cd
now its 6
thick reef
I know WW gained some of BrM's kit. Rogue has gained more actives in DF. Enhancement has gained substantially more self healing.
nimble jasper
garrote from non sin
rogue comparatively has lost stuff
from wod
less comparatively
legion was basically when the 3 rogue specs got their resources divided
amongst the 3 specs
then df returned gouge as a class talent
monk defensives got hit hard
diffuse used to be 90% magic dr
and zen med was lost+old karma
also nimble brew
Idk its weird to mention people saying other melee lost nothing
when pmuch all of them got pruned
nimble jasper
I know WW gained some of BrM's kit. Rogue has gained more actives in DF. Enhance...
also impending victory is new
people just out here complaining because aoe kick got pruned
when it was broken
sharp meteor
into triple tank meta
hmm i remmeber multiple tanks for everbloom
nimble jasper
To me the most problematic changes that came with modern rogue:
- Shadow dance gaining a cdr mechanic in Legion.
- Marked for death becoming a 30s cd for sin in BFA which lines up perfectly with toxic blade that came in Legion and stun dr
sharp meteor
ya?
nimble jasper
hmm i remmeber multiple tanks for everbloom
double brm bdk double enh
was the meta comp
in end wod cms
sharp meteor
hm i don't remember that
nimble jasper
and chi torpedo did dam+healing
undone pumice
idk thats pretty creative i think stuff like that should be viable its pve who cares no one suffers
sharp meteor
i could see it tho
nimble jasper
it was dumb
sharp meteor
brm and blood didnt need healing
nimble jasper
then your sham AG popped his cds
sharp meteor
enh had healing
sharp meteor
ya fire nova keeps everybody immortal
undone pumice
not the belf
undone pumice
wut the
sharp meteor
missin mop
nimble jasper
and uhh
undone pumice
BRING THAT BACK
nimble jasper
heroic throw silenced
thick reef
MoP was peak
nimble jasper
with gag order glyph
sharp meteor
mop was glory days
undone pumice
BRING IT BACK
thick reef
was fairly balanced too unless I'm misremembering
undone pumice
mop classic peak
nimble jasper
it was only balanced because
undone pumice
pretty sure it was balanced cuz everyone was op
nimble jasper
everyone was op
undone pumice
ye
thick reef
"Everyone is OP" is a much better design philosophy
undone pumice
i dont see the issue?
nimble jasper
or gain iceblock
nimble jasper
theres a reason shatterply
undone pumice
ele randomly 1 shitting you was also a thing right
brazen rock
ele randomly 1 shitting you was also a thing right
yup
how i got glad was playing with ele
undone pumice
but mop also had turbo warrior dominance in some patches right?
thick reef
I remember a lot of dueling tournaments in MoP, I loved it.
nimble jasper
yeah you got rng memed by echo and mastery
brazen rock
yup
undone pumice
rdruid and shaman metas
so game bad?
thick reef
Well the tournies were DPS only to be fair.
nimble jasper
yes
undone pumice
i cant remember any time neither of those were good recently
nimble jasper
shamans are just
thick reef
Highly mobile classes tend to make things unfun for most people. Look at OW, shit like Tracer is annoying as fug
nimble jasper
the posterchild of dampening
undone pumice
who
nimble jasper
jahmilli
undone pumice
who
brazen rock
mop jah was peak streaming content
nimble jasper
yah
sharp meteor
eventually the meatballs score a kill
nimble jasper
jah one of the better na mages
undone pumice
idk i was 5 when mop launched i didnt start forming memories until 2 weeks ago
nimble jasper
tho idk eu has much better mages
NA is better at zugzug comps
like meleecleave
or lock x
lucid walrus
spear getting turned to physical damage is such a travesty
smoky anchor
mop jah was peak streaming content
Nah peak pvp video content was pre arena world pvp shadow priest gank videos
zenith marlin
I must be rly bad at pve
undone pumice
pveer
zenith marlin
to be worse than I am at pvp
zenith marlin
no they just have friends
nimble jasper
then i realized they’re just bullying 1400 players
undone pumice
how do u get satisfaction out of killing a boar
nimble jasper
zenith marlin
im tank
smoky anchor
pvp video makers were good
You should go watch them old ones
Soooo bad
Clicking skills
zenith marlin
I get satisfaction out of others killing the boar
undone pumice
how do u get satisfaction out of being gored by a boar
zenith marlin
As I tell them what to do
undone pumice
You should go watch them old ones
Soooo bad
Clicking skills
smoky anchor
none of them are that interesting
It was fun watching noxn 5v1 in bc summoning stones
zenith marlin
today my resto friend clicked accept for an arena
than went afk cuz his parents came back from vacation
thick reef
I kinda miss my Rogue. But ever since Legion they've felt, wrong, to me.
zenith marlin
man2man
smoky anchor
i dont find 1vX vs bad players interesting
Do you prefer arena stalemates until dampening gets to high enough stacks?
zenith marlin
dampening is fkn bs
undone pumice
manof wanna run lumberjack cleave xd
i used to run lumberjack cleave but like it is painful
nimble jasper
i hate people who only play
smoky anchor
dampening is fkn bs
It's the only thing that makes arena tolerable
nimble jasper
sub ww was prob the only fun thing I enjoyed in SL
just run around
dink someone
run again
xd
zenith marlin
ye but I prefer mana limit
undone pumice
arms + sin
zenith marlin
so healers need to use brain
so self heal has meaning
well not that I self heal as arms kek
smoky anchor
ye but I prefer mana limit
Nah
Pre dampening disc priests were king with mana burn
zenith marlin
Id love to see a priest cast manaburn while I am railing him xd
zenith marlin
atm at least
undone pumice
bfa was an abomination cause it sucked in every aspect pmuch
nimble jasper
azerite fortification
smoky anchor
Honestly 2345 was pretty kino to watch
Lust into mana burn spam
Swap on warrior full rage and just insta kill someone
lean mason
pvp video makers were good
At least few of them have some good taste of music
smoky anchor
At least few of them have some good taste of music
Linkin Park?
zenith marlin
so I won without effort
nimble jasper
At least few of them have some good taste of music
next person to have drowning pool
im knocking on their door
lean mason
Ayy linking park is great 
undone pumice
linkin park was mid
who dat
smoky anchor
At least few of them have some good taste of music
For real tho best pvp video of all time is Caen - Apathy, best music of all and also really good pvp
smoky anchor
That's when I realized how op thunderfury was
smoky anchor
then meteora
Meteora is banger after banger
Hybrid theory has like 3 good songs
smoky anchor
But we all know 90% of ppl playing warrior in bc was because of that Pat PvP video
Sweeping strikes one shotting mages
nimble jasper
BFA was fun cuz I had mythic pve weapon in 1st week chest
acquire getiku first week
smoky anchor
Actually hilarious
nimble jasper
im pretty sure i gibbed absterge on his rdruid week 1 of notorious
with double cyclotronic blast
wanton siren
lads ive been playing some Fury in solo shuffle and I have a feeling as soon as there are some casters involved that I don't influence the game that much, just do dmg until one of my party members die. Is that normal to be a sustain dmg bot or am I doing something wrong?
nimble jasper
man thinks hes safe gapclosing 40 yds
then gets tased by 2 trinkets from 70 to dead
smoky anchor
lads ive been playing some Fury in solo shuffle and I have a feeling as soon as ...
You're doing something wrong, training casters is the best part about playing fury in solo shuffle
zenith marlin
spris are op so are warlocks but they are alot easier to target as warrs just sit on them and be patiebt
Playing vs casters is a blessing
nimble jasper
spriests are easier to sit on
smoky anchor
Playing vs casters is a blessing
Facts
nimble jasper
than warlocks
zenith marlin
I one shot warlock barrier with wt + demolish then rail them idk wym
wanton siren
I do, but as soon as they are low hp I get ccd for 1s and they are back to full hp with defensives up xd
smoky anchor
than warlocks
All u need is a psyfiend weakaura and you never lose to shadow priest again
zenith marlin
just put /target psyfiend to ur slam xdxd
nimble jasper
but casters at lower mmr are free
smoky anchor
Yeah cause they shield their fucking psyfiend
smoky anchor
Fuckin aids
zenith marlin
I sweep psyfiend
smoky anchor
Suddenly I'm halfway across the arena trying to kill a psyfiend that ain't dyin
zenith marlin
kekw
nimble jasper
yeah i know a v good spriest
smoky anchor
Yeah isn't it a ranged ability they use
zenith marlin
priests playing more like retri palas than retri palas play like retri palas xdxdxd
nimble jasper
always put it somewhere that melee must overextend to get to
you put it down and it channels
wanton siren
So the idea is just to pick 1 caster and stay on it all game, even through cds?
zenith marlin
alot of the time yes
wanton siren
I try swapping to healer but my teammates never follow xd
zenith marlin
u just build a warrior sense over time and it tells u to switch targets
U know
Play until ur spine tells u the right move
smoky anchor
Not through CDs but you honestly probably could
If I don't sit on a caster their DPS pumps, soon as I sit on them their DPS goes down to like 40% or less of what they were
Unless it's ele sham them ur fucked
nimble jasper
you can hit whoever you can
but you’re not a rogue or ww
who can try globaling anyone who trinkets like a mongo
zenith marlin
My spine tells me to switch I switch
Why think or read when experiential learning tells you what to do
wanton siren
I usually swap on big cds, no point wasting dmg
nimble jasper
i mean i just
zenith marlin
I am an empricists for warrior pvp
wanton siren
but my team never follows and Im just looking at the other guy 1v1 xd
zenith marlin
warrs pretty decent at 1v1 idk why
nimble jasper
i remember when i used to queue hero for elite sets
we’d dumpster any mirror just from doing
2-3x more damage
“ahh fuck it grip in whoever i need to bust a fat one”
wanton siren
my last game was with a lobby of a DH,SP and destro lock on the fking bridge map xD
nothing was dying
and then someone just folds
nimble jasper
not doing damage idk
wanton siren
nothing fun about warlock teleporting all over the place and priest spamming mindcontrol xD
zenith marlin
lock ez 2 catch unless evoker cringe bs
wanton siren
It's bs that they can tp out of spear
nimble jasper
dh was a mistake
zenith marlin
either they dont use it and I keep railing
nimble jasper
of a class
zenith marlin
or they use it and I keep railing
wanton siren
looks like ima have to start playing full mongo
tell the team who I focus all game
idk how people don't cc or interrupt anything at 2.1 mmr
zenith marlin
who cares even if we mongo
since we do 50% of our dmg in 6 seconds every 84 seconds
wanton siren
ive noticed the demo improved axethrow doesn't quite destroy the whole lock shield, any way to make it stronger?
undone pumice
leave abuse is a diff story
wanton siren
nah but letting me sit every priest MC pisses a guy off, I can't spellreflect forever
zenith marlin
imagine trying to fight me in wpvp and not even having useful toys in keybinds
zenith marlin
A priest MCd me started jumping which gave me the auto blizzard DC
I think about that alot
nimble jasper
i love when priests try to mc my healer
zenith marlin
Then I railed him with my cds
zenith marlin
I love it when restos cyclone themselves
wanton siren
yeah thats fine but this was a shadow priest thats not bursting, so in theory im more valuable
zenith marlin
Is there a weak aura that tells me spells I am being targeted with
zenith marlin
I am tired of moving camera
nimble jasper
he thought he was safe then i step garroted his trinket
on blind
rofl
and killed his dps
wanton siren
Is there a weak aura that tells me spells I am being targeted with
if they target you just use the focus thing, if they do arena123 then no
wanton siren
are they ever gonna fix the gladius bug that stops me from targeting people?
It's so annoying vs demo, dk etc
zenith marlin
Ik I can target players only
wanton siren
in regular options?
zenith marlin
but i am used to it now its the warrior experience
nimble jasper
yea
wanton siren
ok cool ill check it out
wanton siren
no plsxD
I wanna try to get to 2.4 cause they made the stupid weapons not cosmetic
Gl playing some caster and not getting anything from the vendor
So warrior alt it is
zenith marlin
I mean if they crater warrs
everyone will swap characters
Only the elite will remain
wanton sun
unholy DK good kill target as fury?
or would preservation evoker or mm hunter be easier?
wanton siren
I've thought about trying arms instead to see if it's more meaningful oneshot gameplay, thoughts?
lean mason
Idk I never oneshot anyone before
high kite
Arms could probably one shot more source dude trust me
undone pumice
Idk I never oneshot anyone before
i 3 globaled a bunch of sps
thick reef
When the warbringer crits sometimes peeps just disappear
lean mason
i 3 globaled a bunch of sps
Did you do it on purpose or just felt like it?
Actually speaking pf pvp videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKs0WSnlbME&t=10s This what acutally got me to think that smf would work
cursive hemlock
Which pvp trinket are we buying?
raw summit
Medallion + something
I see a bunch of insignias others ran badge
Both works tbh
BM too
cursive hemlock
Ok so it's mostly up to preference?
undone pumice
Did you do it on purpose or just felt like it?
charge spear smash mortal stirk, dead in 3 globals, it just happens like that sometimes if healer and him are brainlagged
lean mason
Damn
thick reef
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKs0WSnlbME&t=10s This what acutally got me to t...
I STILL DONT GET WHY
- SMF ISNT JUST BASELINE
AND - WHY THEY DONT JUST LET WARRIORS MOG 2 HANDERS INTO 1 HANDERS AND VICE VERSA
AND WHY SMF DOESNT ALSO GIVE A SMALL HP BOOST.
JUST
FUCKING WHY
brazen rock
remove smf
thick reef
MAKING SMF WOULDN'T BE FUCKING HARD TO DO. I DONT. FUCKING. GET IT.
sharp meteor
1. SMF ISNT JUST BASELINE
AND
2. WHY THEY DONT JUST LET WARRIORS MOG 2 HANDERS I...
that'd be nice and easy
thick reef
EVEN WITHOUT THE TRANSMOG THING
ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS ADJUST THE % A LITTLE BIT FOR DAMAGE AND STAMINA AND HAVE IT BASELINE.
IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO HAVE A TG AND SMF WARRIOR AT THE SAME LEVEL GIVEN THEY HAVE THE SAME ROTATIONS AND KITS. THE ADJUSTMENTS COULD BE DONE BY A FUCKING MORON SO LONG AS THEY KNEW THE ROTATION
fair tide
jfc my guild has some morons in it
screaming for nerfs because a warrior healed for 3 million in a bg
sharp meteor
i topped healingin an ebg as rogue
thick reef
THE HP OUTRIGHT WOULDNT NEED ANY KIND OF TESTING, JUST TAKE TWO WARRIORS WITH THE SAME ILVL AND THEN DO BASIC MIDDLE SCHOOL MATH
sharp meteor
bgs are such a meme
fair tide
he was a mage
fair tide
so it makes sense
thick reef
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
brazen rock
why r u so mad about this lmao
brazen rock
why would you publically admit this
thick reef
BEARBARIAN
zenith marlin
maybe u can get our class buffed
thick reef
THOUGH I USED TO BE A GOBLIN
zenith marlin
blizz may listen to you
half of us are dads here
im married
i am loosing my strength
thick reef
I WILL HAVE THE DEV TEAMS BLOOD IN A GOBLET AND WILL FEAST ON THEIR HEARTS FOR THE CRIMES AGAINST WARRIORS THEY HAVE COMMITTED
undone pumice
dad strength doe@zenith marlin
fair tide
I don't know why, but this mount looks pretty sick w/ the season set
thick reef
Gonna pat it
wanton siren
I tried arms lads, the dummy didn't stand a chance 🤣
Got a juicy 120k execute and mortal
Does the dummy have any vers?
wanton siren
Shi
fair tide
Does the dummy have any vers?
no
wanton siren
I like that they put the specs in different ss scores
So you can try stuff
Remind me, during burst do you wanna immediately go bayblade or leave it for later?
undone pumice
wot
thick reef
Bladestorm
undone pumice
why would u do that during burst for sheer damage, imo only bs during burst to dodge cc
and if ur a giga pumper cracked korean 1 month old prodigy u just bladestorm on reaction in the .2s window
wanton siren
Too old for that apparently XD
undone pumice
you korean?
wanton siren
Only in the eyes
undone pumice
you a prodigy?
wanton siren
Hmm, I was for a while, fel off when I couldn't get by without work 🤣
undone pumice
are you a giga pumper?
wanton siren
i want to be 😶🌫️
undone pumice
so you're suicidal?
wanton siren
This is the worst Buzzfeed quiz
thick reef
hah
undone pumice
answer the question
are you cracked, a giga pumper, korean, a prodigy, or 1 month old?
wanton siren
🍄 I shall be the mushroom lord
fair tide
the stars aligned
torpid roost
I needed another gear piece or a new race to get it I think
torpid roost
CS, blood fury, avatar, reck, sophic devo, sharpen, rng trinket, spear +crit
high star
pretty cool ngl that means i have full honor gear already in one day lol
fair tide
yeah, I dont know what to do w/ honor anymore
wanton sun
remind me again. what are good caster kill targets and what are good melee kill targets for fury in arena? I tried killing spriest earlier but they felt immortal...
i usually try to go for spriest or lock for caster or DK/rogue for melee
torpid roost
I don't have much issue killing casters as either spec, it's surviving as arms that's the issue
Warlocks even fall after a bit
lean mason
yep
I know wpvp is like eww but does the pvp gear effect wpvp as well?
or naw
Like 300 whatever turn to 400 whatever when you click on warmode
Nevermind I answer my own question
plain canopy
I'm having trouble nailing down whether fury or arms is more dominant in battlegrounds. I feel like it really comes down to both your healers and the enemy teams.
torpid roost
Yes when you engage in any pvp activity (ie, you get hit or hit someone in wpvp) it scales instantly
That's the right take on the situation, justcall, fury is great when your team is underhealed/bad, and arms is better when it's organized
plain canopy
Yes, I really feel like the inverse is true as well when it comes to opposing team comp. Arms is much better at dismantling lower geared healers and fury is better at wearing out highly geared ones
lean mason
So at the end of the day I guess ilvl dosent matter since we all get the same ilvl in pvp yea?
The most important aspect when it comes to pvp gear is the stats I assume?
brazen rock
13 ilvl from honor to conq is still big.
wanton sun
I'm legitimately at a loss for solo shuffle and fury. we pick a kill target, and I am running maximum defensiveness with my talents, stormbolting healer on our cds, fearing to peel off our healer, trying to use my defensives when they switch to me and i just can't win games. It's like when people play with me they just don't press their buttons. And I'm usually top 1-2 damage for the entire 6 rounds. What else can I do to get to 1800? this is insanity. I was 1698 yesterday and down to 1378.
lean burrow
I'm legitimately at a loss for solo shuffle and fury. we pick a kill target, and...
fury just doesn't have a lot of damage
most of the games I lost in shuffle is due to teammates dying
you could try to follow whoever your dps is targetting and protect them
maybe keep spear/roar with avatar until second go instead of first
lean mason
Solo shuffle is reminding me of rank fights in a fighting games like tekken/street fighter ranking system
It's dumb but.
Itiswhatitis
lean mason
13 ilvl from honor to conq is still big.
Is it really?
I thought it;s like what
1 or 2% dps increase or whatever
drowsy depot
Solo shuffle is reminding me of rank fights in a fighting games like tekken/stre...
this is so true
I got matched up against a 2nd Dan today in Tekken, match making be wild
lucid walrus
1 or 2% dps increase or whatever
in shadowlands 1 ilvl equated to roughly 1% more damage
wanton sun
most of the games I lost in shuffle is due to teammates dying
I lost multiple rounds today because my dps teammate was getting trained and then they switched to me and i rotate thru my defensives but the healer is still healing the other person not being targeted and then I die cause no heals
plain canopy
Making sure you're fully gemmed and enchanted is a huge deal as well. Especially your chest legs rings and weapon
visual hedge
Solo feels like going through the motions then when someone slips up you double dps pounce on them and blow cds. Then it’s a minute or so until you do it again
lucid walrus
dunno how dragonflight stacks up with that but you don’t wanna be the guy with less gear
visual hedge
I’ve had a few quick matches with an arms / fury point click delete moment before people even realize what happened
thick reef
Can Arms be competitive without a bleed build? I just feel like we’re objectively bad + we can only burst with SS + Tides of Blood
drowsy depot
in shadowlands 1 ilvl equated to roughly 1% more damage
only in pve
due to multipliers and stuff it was much more of a gap in pvp
lucid walrus
vers creep was nuts
drowsy depot
also you can't forget getting that 6 ilvl upgrade and being able to kill someone in 3 seconds from your go if they were a tier or two below you
I remember 3 hitting tanks in rbgs on my rogue when i got a full 6 ilvl upgrade
was really fun gatekeeping players based on gear lol
elder sparrow
Fury or arms for solo shuffle
sharp meteor
playable but fried
seems like it'd be better suited to 3s with a ms dps
or like something vulnerable to physical like dk
burnt hull
fair tide
wait till the gear starts stacking
burnt hull
we gonna b okay
fair tide
we're gonna be ok
torpid roost
kinda think SMF should be slightly different than titan's grip, otherwise why bother with it
make it baseline, I'm okay with that, or if it's talent points, give it a niche
brazen rock
kinda think they should just delete smf and stop wasting dev time trying to balance it every expac 🙂
torpid roost
yeah, they're trying to hard to homogenize but still make it different
which is.... fucking stupid
make it different or delete it
nimble jasper
i mean they brought back alot of useless garbage
like instant poison for non sin rogues
nimble jasper
i mean.....
there is build variety now
but people act like marginally worse setups
are unplayable
blame the playerbase
torpid roost
some, like there's a few viable ones for PVE and PVP for rogue/war/SP
nimble jasper
rogue is weird cuz the linear pathing of the tree
forces you to give up mobility for dps
dont think I've seen many other trees like that
sp idk
whining about the PI talent
nimble jasper
not really
torpid roost
but I really mean a little
nimble jasper
they're literally fine
lean mason
just exists to appease boomers
I think it's more. of a fashion thing
nimble jasper
spriest typically suffers from class envy
leaden lynx
wbu?
nimble jasper
of their other two cloth brethren
lean mason
if imma be honest I just want to use 1 handed weapons because a lot of them look cool
torpid roost
they're behind in raw PVE damage output and their marginal utility gains don't do shit in a raid
nimble jasper
i see people say they want to mog small weps
then proceed to mog thunderfury
nice small wep guy
torpid roost
thunderfury is a comically large 1h, yeah, lol
vital prism
hey guys, im just starting in this xpac, which spec is most popular rn for 2s?
nimble jasper
they're behind in raw PVE damage output and their marginal utility gains don't d...
they're ranged
cant complain
also gives someone else PI
nimble jasper
hey guys, im just starting in this xpac, which spec is most popular rn for 2s?
not playing warrior
good thing theres more ranged slots than melee
in a raid
torpid roost
"my class feels kinda busted" "LOL THERE'S OTHER SPOTS IN THE RAID"
I'm not crying, I'm making fun of you for bizarre ways of evading an issue
vital prism
uhm
drowsy depot
why are we talking about killing scripted bots?
torpid roost
They have utility, but that's ultimately useless in a raid, PVP that matters, small PVE content (dungeons, etc) that matters
also, yes, arms is shit in 2's
nimble jasper
*arms and fury
vital prism
not playing warrior
does this mean warriors are just that bad in arenas?
nimble jasper
3s exist
torpid roost
fine in 3's
nimble jasper
been that way even in SL
torpid roost
Right, which is why I don't have any faith in it getting any better
drowsy depot
hey guys, im just starting in this xpac, which spec is most popular rn for 2s?
for dps? dh/rogue/dk/warr pick one
torpid roost
didn't play, but I watched and spoke to people who were active
nimble jasper
altho s3/4 fury was still more popular than arguably op specs like outlaw
because you could teach a hamster
to play fury
and run at people
vital prism
for dps? dh/rogue/dk/warr pick one
im asking abt spec, arms vs fury 😛
drowsy depot
70iq 2 button ficsher's first duelist caved in ape brain fury spec is better than gagachad arms
nimble jasper
outlaw was a more busted spec
but still required some semblance of game knowledge
to abuse
fury be like
haha RA charge slaughterhouse go brr
necrobanner out the gates
lean mason
It do be like that
drowsy depot
if you pressed remotely close to the keys you needed on S4 fury, fat fingering everything you'll still climb rating lol
nimble jasper
yeha outlaw had a disgusting toolkit to abuse people with
but teaching a chimpanzee to use it
Kind of goes back to the example I had with low rated players make mage in its most busted season not seem op.
thick reef
from what iv seen
thick reef
arms and fury is meh in 2s and jsut gets overridden by a bunch of specs
not that good
nimble jasper
then you have r1s play mage as an alt and achieve much higher in one session
because they know the game's fundamentals
drowsy depot
SL Season 3 mage/lock was some of the most angry I've been in my life
nimble jasper
yeah then watch all the mages disappear
thick reef
was v annoying to fight
nimble jasper
once they removed resolve
thick reef
oh yea that trink
drowsy depot
yeah wonder why
drowsy depot
I see a lot of players Season 3 Glad and rival2/duelist evey other season
nimble jasper
but you cannot put a random sub 2k exp player on mage in rmp