pvp

[torpid roost]

last I played I was like 2550 but that was like, seriously multiple expansions ago

now I'm like hardstuck by MMR at 1200 the fuck

[pure hornet]

Where u got this from?

[fickle forge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/zzxqga/solo_shuffle_all_available_data_as_of_12302022_us/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[torpid roost]

what determined initial shuffle mmr

[undone pumice]

idk

but all im saying is game was good when dhs werent ingame

[torpid roost]

we all know that, but that's not the topic at hand

blind bois with better sight than all of us

and why is the fucking armory busted half the time

jesus christ blizzard get your shit together

[undone pumice]

cuz armory sux

use checkpvp ig

[torpid roost]

says my rogue maxed out at 2263, which is wrong, but, still, this is >>>> armory

[zenith marlin]

DHs are annoying but

i still clap them

Just sucks that they force a switch

[undone pumice]

50% btw

[zenith marlin]

we should just hit even harder

So hard

HARDEST

[torpid roost]

I have a better win record than people above 2500

I'm less than half that

what the fuck

[zenith marlin]

WE ARE THE FKN DEADLIFT CLASS

[torpid roost]

because we die, then we go lift?

[zenith marlin]

The greatest demon hunter ever was a fkn orc warrior

[torpid roost]

zug zug, demon bad?

That's like twice as much fucking words

[undone pumice]

broxigar?

[zenith marlin]

Zug zug

ye

[torpid roost]

why many words, when few do job?

[undone pumice]

broxigar the homie

slicing up sargeras with a leaf lmao

[zenith marlin]

Broxigar would have OHKO Sylvanas

Saurfang is disgrace to his name

[undone pumice]

theyre both called saurfang

[zenith marlin]

Well tbf BFA is not cannon so owell

tru

[fossil sphinx]

Is arms better than fury?

[undone pumice]

also wasnt dranosh stronger than varok too?

[zenith marlin]

Yes

[torpid roost]

beefa

[undone pumice]

also what happened to eitrigg ?

[zenith marlin]

He clicked Blood Fury

[undone pumice]

no

where is eitrigg now

[zenith marlin]

Sometimes I see him in Grommash Hold

babling about classic BGs

Old man

[undone pumice]

eitrigg has to be a boomer now tho

how old is he 70?

[zenith marlin]

Prob still hits hard

[undone pumice]

what year are we in now canonnically

[zenith marlin]

Let's see

Manduins like 30?

[undone pumice]

i dont think hes a man cause shalamayne is gone how are you a man without your gamer weapon

[zenith marlin]

I hope Nozdormu accidentally brings back Grommash xd

[fickle forge]

Doesn't matter if you don't win at their MMR

[torpid roost]

positive win record

rating down

not happy

rating VERY low

[zenith marlin]

Just gank them

Ez

[torpid roost]

today win 10, lose 8, not great day, lose 120 rating

not supposed to happen in ratings gutter

why ask how initial solo shuffle mmr calculated, zug

[fickle forge]

Means you lost at lower MMR than your personal one

[zenith marlin]

Or it was Blade Edge arena

[torpid roost]

dude there is no lower ratings bracket than what I'm in unless they've entirely changed the system

[zenith marlin]

when its the bastion arena I leave immediately

[pure hornet]

You play fury?

[torpid roost]

no

well, yes, but I'm not

[fickle forge]

Well what is it at?

[zenith marlin]

Why use 2 when 1 does the job

Arms > Fury

[pure hornet]

Huh? Yes or no

[torpid roost]

went from 1440 to 1200 because i'm losing, again, today's examples, 55 per loss, and gaining 8 per win

[fickle forge]

Yeah that's normal

[torpid roost]

that would put my MMR at like

[undone pumice]

we can see what happened to varian when he specced fury

[torpid roost]

600?

[fickle forge]

If you go by the reddit post, average rn is 1200

[torpid roost]

lmfao

[undone pumice]

damn, im above average in 2 things now!

[zenith marlin]

But u cant loose rating until 1.4k

[torpid roost]

yeah but 2/6 lose 55, 4/6 gain 8, implies my shit is LOW

[zenith marlin]

But u dont loose rating until 1.4k no?

[torpid roost]

and, please link reddit post

well, apparently that's not true ag

[fickle forge]

You can

[undone pumice]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/zzxqga/solo_shuffle_all_available_data_as_of_12302022_us/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/zzxqga/solo_shuffle_all_available_data_as_of_12302022_us/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/zzxqga/solo_shuffle_all_available_data_as_of_12302022_us/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

here

[torpid roost]

definitely necessary spam

[undone pumice]

incase you miss it

[fickle forge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/zzxqga/solo_shuffle_all_available_data_as_of_12302022_us/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

It's here btw

In case you missed it

[undone pumice]

thank you kar

[fickle forge]

No u

[torpid roost]

I thought you meant another statistical breakdown

[zenith marlin]

they dont even present SD with the averages

[torpid roost]

chill virgins, jesus christ

lmfao

[zenith marlin]

garbage analysis

[fickle forge]

SD?

[torpid roost]

^

[fickle forge]

It's the API

Lol

[zenith marlin]

standard deviation

[torpid roost]

Standard deviation

[fickle forge]

Blizz own stats

[torpid roost]

well, blizzard is retarded

so that checks out

[fickle forge]

[zenith marlin]

higher SD = higher skill gap

[undone pumice]

balls

[zenith marlin]

Id love to see how many SDs I am above the avg arms player

[fickle forge]

Literally doesn't matter when you have an average of 1200 from those top 5k per spec

[undone pumice]

what ur ss rating agmius

[torpid roost]

okay, but WHY AM I LOSING GIANT CHUNKS when 2/6 wins happen, and gaining nothing when 4/6 wins happen

[zenith marlin]

Ye but if SD is 100 at 1.8k ud ne a god

[torpid roost]

small gain small loss? Fine. Huge chunk gain and loss? Fine.

[zenith marlin]

im a pathetic 1.6k basically dont loose rating when I loose a game rn

[undone pumice]

wtf

[fickle forge]

Cause you lose at lower MMR than your personal MMR

[torpid roost]

that implies I'm losing at MUCH lower MMR

[undone pumice]

i think if ur like 2.2k ur like top50 arms

[torpid roost]

like, vastly different

[zenith marlin]

im probably top 10k xd

[torpid roost]

or, that I'm rated high MMR for some reason

which frankly right now I think I'm a 1700 player at best

[fickle forge]

Yeah you probably are

[undone pumice]

aboe 2.2k is top 69 arms in eu

[torpid roost]

they really should just fucking display MMR

[undone pumice]

and 2k+ is top 229 arms

big gaming

[zenith marlin]

what am I at 1650 manof

[torpid roost]

maybe even give an exec level summary of how it's derived

[fickle forge]

MMR display is coming in the next update

[torpid roost]

is it really?

neat

[zenith marlin]

Bottom 5%? xd

How is the arms average below the rating where u can loose points

[fickle forge]

There's still no point you like that fam

[torpid roost]

think they did away with that threshold

[undone pumice]

idk

[torpid roost]

people with worse record than me
2702
me, winning record today, losing 150 rating

I hate this fucking game so much

I don't even know why I pay a sub fee anymore

[fickle forge]

Just win at their MMR and you'll be their rating

Nothing to do with win rate

[cunning bolt]

This solo shuffle MMR is stupid as fuck... get +0 or get -60... what a shit game

[torpid roost]

just win at twice your rating

because you're definitely going to be matched against that

[undone pumice]

below top 1000

[zenith marlin]

I get +60 with 5 wins half the games

[fickle forge]

If you win, you will eventually

[zenith marlin]

than -60 the other half with 2 wins

[torpid roost]

I'm about 99% sure there's a break in the system

something is just wrong

[zenith marlin]

all based off the other dps classes

[fickle forge]

[zenith marlin]

is it WW? I stomp

is it SP? I get stompr

[undone pumice]

ur mm is just bricked kahuna

mmr

[torpid roost]

"no you're wrong you deserve to lose huge chunks of rating before 1500"

from what, not playing 2 exp?

[fickle forge]

Yeah if you lose on like 1100 MMR or something

[torpid roost]

dude

I'm in the 1200s now

that's disgusting

[full quiver]

Lol what's ur exp outside of shuffle

[fickle forge]

Then nothing to do but bring your MMR up

[torpid roost]

2600 xp

that's why I'm fucking livid at the "explanations" and this shit

[undone pumice]

in wod right?

[torpid roost]

lol no, older

[full quiver]

Seems sus

[torpid roost]

wrath and cata

[full quiver]

What's ur slands xp

[torpid roost]

zero

[undone pumice]

ye thats like

not valuable anymore

[torpid roost]

literally didn't play

[full quiver]

Probably just inting then lol

[fickle forge]

Just about 15 years ago

😎 👍

[full quiver]

Have u recorded any

[torpid roost]

"not valuable anymore" versus "we deleted it and you went back to zero"

no, I could install shadowplay real quick

[mystic barn]

what’s ur modern xp

[zenith marlin]

2.5k in BFa Xd

[undone pumice]

bfa

[zenith marlin]

is that modern

[undone pumice]

[mystic barn]

people who put their cata xp in group requests usually get declined

[pure hornet]

So i have higher chance to climb with fury?

[torpid roost]

played okay at ~1600-1700 3's this expansion, otherwise no modern xp

[full quiver]

I was 2k mmr from game 1 and haven't dropped since

[zenith marlin]

When my slams hit 50% hp

[undone pumice]

didnt u say u just abused ur pve gear in bfa

[zenith marlin]

yes

[full quiver]

And I've had a 2-4

[fickle forge]

The Rovicus experience

[zenith marlin]

I had mythic weapon first week

[undone pumice]

corruoptions n shit

[full quiver]

So I feel like you did something troll

Lol

[zenith marlin]

no mine was first week of bfa s1

[undone pumice]

xd

[full quiver]

Like back to back 1-5 or something

[fickle forge]

Ppl that rolled +15 Geti'ikku with socket

Hehe eksdee

[zenith marlin]

and full bis azerites

= glad

ez

sucks to be the rest

[torpid roost]

theoretically not true with rating inflation and all that

but probably still true

[undone pumice]

me who grinded getti for literally 1 year and came up dry the onlygetti i got was in s4 at +3

useless

[zenith marlin]

I got 2.4k in SL s1 with convoke abuse

realized that all I do is abuse whats op

nice

I enjoy

[fickle forge]

T I T A N F O R G E D

[full quiver]

Of course lol

[zenith marlin]

Ah yes 12% of ur dmg is that passige innit

[torpid roost]

SL seemed like a very high skill expansion and I'm truly in awe of the players that got high ratings pressing a single button and shit on my experience

[undone pumice]

unfatgomably bad luck i had with getti

[mystic barn]

far more skill than cata which was like 15 yrs ago

[warped warren]

first time?

[full quiver]

What's ur cr in 2s and 3s

[fickle forge]

SL was pretty okay

[mystic barn]

People had to learn to use dcds to not get 1 shot

[torpid roost]

Call of Duty is more skill because it's newer

[full quiver]

What's ur cr in 2s and 3s

[fickle forge]

Didn't you just say you didn't play SL?

[full quiver]

If ur shuffles bugged

[fickle forge]

[mystic barn]

He said 1600

[zenith marlin]

No thats me

[warped warren]

more skill than 15 years ago for sure

[zenith marlin]

I am 1.6k

[warped warren]

SOCKET

[torpid roost]

actually disagree, game seems significantly more mongo CD trading now

[fickle forge]

Surely

[mystic barn]

game seems to disagree with you

[torpid roost]

could kill outside of CDs then, even though CDs were still relevant

[zenith marlin]

Idk I recall one hitting mfs in every expansion

[undone pumice]

true and real

[full quiver]

Lol

[undone pumice]

didnt resune posthim hitting a fatty 60k execute in s1 of sl?

[torpid roost]

you guys really are the worst kind of pseudo-elitists, "why is this happening" "LOLBECUZ U BAD HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAEHAA" "I win more than I lose" "HAHAHAHA CATA XP KILL YOURSELF"

fite me IRL fatty

[full quiver]

Because you are probably bad man

[torpid roost]

sure

[full quiver]

You haven't played arena in years

[undone pumice]

cata xp means nothing wtf u mean

[warped warren]

mental breakdown after 30 mins in skyhold

rookie

[brazen rock]

[torpid roost]

....

[brazen rock]

post physique

[full quiver]

Server nuke inc

[fickle forge]

Bruh you're just unwilling to accept that the only way off 1200 is to git gud

[mystic barn]

Again, people who try to get into glad groups with 2600xp cata are washed and get declined for a reason

[undone pumice]

mOOods

[zenith marlin]

my wife asking me why i been texting manof for 2 hrs

[warped warren]

post bench, dog

[full quiver]

What's ur height and weight Kahana

[wheat jay]

what?

[torpid roost]

WIN MORE THAN LOSE

LOSE HUGE RATING

[wheat jay]

what happened XD

[torpid roost]

STUPID

[full quiver]

What's ur height and weight

[wheat jay]

i dunno

sounds like bullshit

cuz if you won more than you lose

[mystic barn]

Bruin moment with solo shuffle

[wheat jay]

you'd gain

[full quiver]

Lol

[undone pumice]

is this man our bruin replacement?

[warped warren]

whats your skin color

[torpid roost]

yes, that is my supposition as well, artji

[full quiver]

God bruins gameplay review

[warped warren]

wait what

[zenith marlin]

im 5'10 205 lbs

[full quiver]

What a relic

[warped warren]

[zenith marlin]

manlet

[undone pumice]

hmmm

[wheat jay]

and it didn't happen, meaning you lost more than you won

[full quiver]

I bet Kahana types between rounds

[warped warren]

[full quiver]

To healer

[mystic barn]

post checkpvp

[full quiver]

Lol

[torpid roost]

It very literally happened today

[wheat jay]

also, are we talking memes or 3s 2s?

[mystic barn]

post checkpvp

[torpid roost]

jesus fucking christ I'll screenshot it next time

[brazen rock]

memes

[full quiver]

STREM A SHUFFLE

[fickle forge]

Cause you lose on low MMR

[wheat jay]

oh solo shuffle

XD

lmao

[full quiver]

STREAM SHUFFLE IN DISC OR DIE

[warped warren]

real

[hollow ore]

✅ seen

[brazen rock]

@undone pumice ayo chill

[hollow ore]

manof poppin off

[warped warren]

@undone pumice nive delte

[brazen rock]

you arent purple class

[torpid roost]

solo meme, yes, but like, fury I gained pretty much no matter what, even with losses, arms I'm losing huge chunks at 1200

[warped warren]

maybe win or?

[fickle forge]

MMR

[torpid roost]

"losses" I mean like 2/6 rounds etc

[mystic barn]

How are you losing huge chunks at 1200 with 2600xp

[torpid roost]

That is my exact fucking question

[mystic barn]

Obviously you know how to play the game

[hollow ore]

don't trigger him he's gonna lose it

[undone pumice]

cata xp is like posca vs wine

[mystic barn]

Since ur 2600xp

[brazen rock]

obviously

[hollow ore]

dude doesn't realize being stuck at 1.2k just means you're dogwater

[mystic barn]

And that wasn’t 15 yrs ago right

[brazen rock]

[zenith marlin]

whatever manof said he is right

i dont even have context

[mystic barn]

Did you buy a boost

[warped warren]

wait, you dont have your mmr carry over from 13 years ago?

weird

[brazen rock]

first szn pvp as arms war i got 2k arms in a weekend

idk

rdruid for 12 years

dps is ezmode

[mystic barn]

Cmon man the game is so much easier now and spammy

[hollow ore]

disgusting bark man

[warped warren]

rd main

[torpid roost]

If you're brand new to the game this is stupid, if you've played for 10 years, this is stupid

[brazen rock]

50+ binds is suffering

[hollow ore]

mongo cd trading wtf

[zenith marlin]

i been to Dreamgrove

[warped warren]

what 50

[torpid roost]

if you've played for.... god damn, 20? this is stupid

2005 release, so, 17ish

[zenith marlin]

its full of furries and weabos

[mystic barn]

He’s probably losing chunks of rating as a 2600xp player bc he’s mongo cd trading

[wheat jay]

doesn't matter

[torpid roost]

I asked for an explanation

[wheat jay]

if you lose games, you lose rating

[hollow ore]

I can't fathom being stuck at 1.2k u just coin flip every game and still probably climb to 1.6k

[wheat jay]

if you win games, you win rating

[hollow ore]

lol

[torpid roost]

only one provided was "MMR"

[fickle forge]

You got one lol

[brazen rock]

nobody has one, solo shuffle mmr/cr is weird

stop sperging

[fickle forge]

You just close your ears to it

[warped warren]

you lose, you lose. you win, you gain

simple

[undone pumice]

your mmr shit

[mystic barn]

I played 4 solo shuffle matches and I got 1700, the bracket is too free

[torpid roost]

what is a shit mmr these days?

1200 used to be asssssssssss

[undone pumice]

below ur cr

[zenith marlin]

mine at 1.6k

which is my cr

[mystic barn]

has to be impossible to be hard stuck 1200 unless ur a 1200 player

[fickle forge]

Below your personal one

[torpid roost]

like keyboard/s-keying ass

[warped warren]

anything below 2.4 in solo

[torpid roost]

clicking rend ass

[fickle forge]

Well

[hollow ore]

people have hands now

[fickle forge]

Welcome to those leagues

[warped warren]

debatable

[hollow ore]

even tho it's just a cd trading mongo ass game

according to some

[torpid roost]

god damn that cut deep on you didn't it? lmfao

even the top people say that shit dude

calm your tits

[hollow ore]

true, dh still plays using voice commands

[torpid roost]

that's literally what it is, doesn't directly imply low skill

[mystic barn]

Top people stuck at 1200 in shuffle?

[warped warren]

but youre hardstuck 1200

[zenith marlin]

whats ur crit %?

[hollow ore]

that's the funniest shit I've read all year ye

[fickle forge]

New Year's eve is wild tonight 😎👍

[undone pumice]

bro is hardstuck like 3 weeks into the season how

[torpid roost]

You've brought it up like 8 times

[hollow ore]

at least 8 times

[sharp meteor]

placements on alt the other day were so funny just walk into the middle of the map and kill 2 people

[fickle forge]

1200 is the new 2600

[torpid roost]

well if you eat shit every time you lose and barely gain when you win, that.... yeah, that happens

[warped warren]

there is no elo hell, js

[hollow ore]

em hunter backped'in

[fickle forge]

Post a shuffle

[torpid roost]

I have literally not said the words "elo hell"

[undone pumice]

how do you get stuck so inctedibly hard like your asscheeks get welded together and gorilla glued that youre hardstuck 3 weeks in

[brazen rock]

[mystic barn]

wat

[warped warren]

[mystic barn]

Aren’t u 12 how do u know what ass cheeks are

[torpid roost]

he thinks that's how babies happen

[undone pumice]

i take shits on the daily

[sage raptor]

Wait. Babies aren't pooped out??

[warped warren]

im 12 in may, even I know what ass cheeks are

[mystic barn]

fair

[quick carbon]

boys I just copied some eu warrior spec of the bleed build with no skullsplitter

[full quiver]

What is ur height and weight

[quick carbon]

It actually does really good damage

[warped warren]

183 73(probably)

[torpid roost]

no no height first

[fair tide]

kill me

[torpid roost]

kekekeke

[undone pumice]

real men have a 1 to 1 ratio of height to weight

[mystic barn]

He’s a dh ur gonna be fine

[fair tide]

these are the players showing up at 1800+

[mystic barn]

why isn’t he 1200

[warped warren]

cant see you down in 1200 regardless

[torpid roost]

and what is your rating

I'm sure you're on the first page of the leaderboard

[wheat jay]

tell the man how to play better

easy

[full quiver]

Kahana probably 5'7 160lbs

[warped warren]

im 2.9

[sage raptor]

PP measuring contest let's goooo

[fair tide]

he has a three button rotation

[torpid roost]

no, we must be toxic pieces of shit, any perceived issue is only that you are bad

especially to DHs

[sage raptor]

You have tonearn that

[full quiver]

I mean you're literally below avg

Lol

[sage raptor]

By hitting challenger

[warped warren]

objectively speaking, you are

[full quiver]

In a super inflated bracket

[undone pumice]

in league

[full quiver]

It's like 400-600 cr above 3s

And ur 1200

Lol

[onyx vale]

ohhh we're measuring our literal dicks instead of our e penises today?

[full quiver]

Like

hello team

[brazen rock]

what just all bleed talents and no sks?

just rot entire team?

[torpid roost]

You've added a lot to the conversation, scoobs, please, continue

[sage raptor]

Special occasion

[wheat jay]

well, it is what it is

[quick carbon]

Yeah thunderous roar and everything

[onyx vale]

it's the new year contest

[mystic barn]

Scoobz is good at adding to conversations

[brazen rock]

but no spear then

ew

[undone pumice]

17

[quick carbon]

Yeah no spear but I was keeping up with dk damage in a shuffle LOL

[mystic barn]

When I want to learn something useless I go to him

[brazen rock]

post import code i wanna see

[undone pumice]

when i want to feel like killing myself i look at anything a dk types

[undone pumice]

loom pins

[brazen rock]

no

[quick carbon]

When I get back on I will, I’m enjoying a cigarette rn brother

[undone pumice]

ok

[wheat jay]

smoking wack my man

[warped warren]

crack???

[quick carbon]

Listen man I need it haha

[mystic barn]

don’t listen to fartji

listen to fnooberz

[undone pumice]

you either fart loudly or shart silently i know which team im on

[quick carbon]

The cool part is you have some pretty good spread pressure not feral Druid tier obviously and you still get those chunky mortal strikes

[tired sorrel]

Beside fighting here anywhere we can look to see how we can progress on pvp ?

[undone pumice]

no

[warped warren]

post cr

[tired sorrel]

1700

[mystic barn]

Shadowplay some games post in review channel

and people can actually help

[warped warren]

@torpid roost

[sage raptor]

You don't want to gatekeep your mmr?

[undone pumice]

now post bench

[full quiver]

This is like dk saying it's impossible to beat dh in 2s then you watch recording and they're inting entire time

[wheat jay]

depression?

[sage raptor]

It hurts

[warped warren]

boredom

[wheat jay]

nah

i play lost ark when not queueing

[undone pumice]

eto how do u even exist

[wheat jay]

that's how i stay sane

play good game, then tilt in bad game, then relax in good game again

[warped warren]

eternal mystery

[undone pumice]

eternal?

eternal gladiator?

shadowlands?

[warped warren]

i said too mucj

[undone pumice]

shut up i knoe youre a dk now

[warped warren]

btw anyone wanna level my 4 characters on classic?

[stoic tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opidIP9PZug Reality about Horde mboxer 🙂

[undone pumice]

how much gold

[sage raptor]

Bring back 5v5

[warped warren]

0

[undone pumice]

no 5v5

10v10 but on mugambalggla

[sage raptor]

Yes 5v5

[undone pumice]

no

[sage raptor]

Yeees

[undone pumice]

silence

[hollow smelt]

i love it when a random unholy dk tells you that you are playing wrong spec (Arms)

[zenith marlin]

DKs are all weak

[hollow smelt]

and i go an 1 shot a ww monk

[sage raptor]

Ikr? When in reality you're playing the wrong class

[zenith marlin]

they died to be a DK

[hollow smelt]

[undone pumice]

you have a feral pic and are complaining about a dk complaining about warrior
bring back class segregation

[zenith marlin]

DKs are failed paladins

[hollow smelt]

whats wrong having a feral picture?

[zenith marlin]

and paladins are priests

[hollow smelt]

yeah guy told me to go fury

[zenith marlin]

Warrior is the only plate class

[hollow smelt]

when i pref arms

[zenith marlin]

ferals are failed rogues

[undone pumice]

unirknically true tho

wtf

[hollow smelt]

im feral main but i love arms warrior so much

i hate fury

[undone pumice]

bro really likes to watch people bleed

[zenith marlin]

lol

[undone pumice]

whats your relationship with your father

[hollow smelt]

but is so cringe how dk in solos tells me that im playing teh wrongs spec

[zenith marlin]

if u hit hard enough thet wont bleed

[hollow smelt]

hes dead

[onyx vale]

paladins are failed warriors

[hollow smelt]

thanks for reminder

[quick carbon]

dks are the shit warriors who died in the wotlk prepatch

[onyx vale]

who didn't have arms big enough to be true warriors, so they cheat with the light

[undone pumice]

relatable

[quick carbon]

the good warriors diddnt die to pve mobs

[zenith marlin]

we all know what happens to good warriors who die

[undone pumice]

prettysure nazgrim just sucked at pvp and died to us in soo

[zenith marlin]

they evaporate or Odyn grabs them

[hollow smelt]

idk i just pref arms , sweeping sharpen , swaping stance , 1 big ass sword and stomping people

[onyx vale]

all warriors die

[hollow smelt]

still deciding what race i should go

rn im tauren

[onyx vale]

if you don't die you're probably a shit warrior

[undone pumice]

tauren bis

[quick carbon]

BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSSkQSSKlkEAAAAQQkkUQCQENkkEJhmEhEAEJAAAAAAAAkESCAA

[onyx vale]

the only remaining warrior? baine

the biggest bitch? also baine

[undone pumice]

etf

[onyx vale]

it's simple math people

[undone pumice]

why u doin my man baine like that

[onyx vale]

not my fault he is a massive bitch

[undone pumice]

shut up God King Garrosh

[wooden grove]

Everyone else upgraded to different classes 🤣

[onyx vale]

friendly reminder he mailed anduin a piece of his horn

A PIECE OF HIS HORN

[hollow smelt]

is there a better build for solo shuffle for arms out there?

[quick carbon]

try this one

BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSSkQSSKlkEAAAAQQkkUQCQENkkEJhmEhEAEJAAAAAAAAkESCAA

[undone pumice]

so he lost a little bit of bone cancer, who cares

[quick carbon]

its act rlly fun

does good consistent damage

[undone pumice]

pins has 3 good builds and that 1 is similar to pinned rend no sksp build

[hollow smelt]

bleed build?

gives me feral vibes pog

[onyx vale]

Baine is also such a traitor, Garrosh made a whole strategy feeding him false informations because he knew baine was going to send it to the alliance

even Saurfang knew baine was such a traitor he had to distract him when he invaded ashenvale

[zenith marlin]

Garrosh only tru warchef

[undone pumice]

garrosh did nothing wrong

[hollow smelt]

but questions is , is that good against casters or melee

[onyx vale]

and saurfang is supposed to be his friend

[quick carbon]

its good into anything

[onyx vale]

everyone in the story knows baine is a traitorous bitch, it's hilarious

[undone pumice]

if only baine benched a bit more and wasnt a bih

[wooden grove]

So what you’re saying is that he is the only Horde character that realized the Alliance is righteous, not the Horde.

[undone pumice]

fuck the alliance

[wooden grove]

Shit keep living in huts

[onyx vale]

ah yes, huts

[pseudo violet]

does arms run crit/vers? just making sure

[onyx vale]

like silvermoon and suramar

[sage raptor]

For real. Alliance are the neck beardiest people ever

[undone pumice]

nah bro we got tents now@wooden grove

[onyx vale]

the only good looking cities in the story

wait nevermind, those are horde cities

meanwhile the alliance best city is a hole in the mountain

[wooden grove]

You really disrespecting Ironforge?

[zenith marlin]

Alliance are the fairy tale things in Shrek

[wooden grove]

Lmao

[zenith marlin]

orc is Shrek

[undone pumice]

thunderbluff also has like a whole ass kodo melted into one of the tents ngl

[onyx vale]

ironforge is a pile of trash compared to suramar

[wooden grove]

Undeniable best city in the game is Ironforge

[undone pumice]

suramar is good if only it didnt lag when i looked in the general direction of it

[wooden grove]

You can be Shrek if you want but cmon kid

[zenith marlin]

best city is gadgetzan

[onyx vale]

no one is shrek

the horde cities are better than the alliance ones

[brazen rock]

silvermoon is best aesthetic

[undone pumice]

shrek looks like shrek idk man

[onyx vale]

nobody cares about orgrimmar

[brazen rock]

flying ruined cities

[wooden grove]

🤮🤮🤮🤮

[undone pumice]

silvermoon sucks dick

[brazen rock]

nope

[onyx vale]

the alliance has one okay city

[undone pumice]

cant even fly in silvermoon LMAO

[zenith marlin]

we have vulpera tho

[onyx vale]

stormwind is trash

teldrassil is ad patres

[zenith marlin]

i don't invite vulpera

[brazen rock]

exactly why silvermoon is good

[zenith marlin]

or lizards

[undone pumice]

nah bro

i wanna be a bird

be free

[onyx vale]

the argument is that horde live in huts

[undone pumice]

and go impale myself on the highest peak of silvermoon

[sage raptor]

At least in org we don't have to take a 5 mile hike to go mog our gear

[onyx vale]

nothing in the alliance even comes close to this

[zenith marlin]

ew elf

[undone pumice]

brokies without the mog mount

[onyx vale]

not just elves

french elves

[undone pumice]

EEEWWW

[onyx vale]

https://tenor.com/view/little-mermaid-chef-crab-les-poisson-gif-15841544

[sage raptor]

Not having it keeps me humble

[undone pumice]

what

[sage raptor]

The only good elf is the one on muh peen

[onyx vale]

🤔

[undone pumice]

the only good elf is a dead elf

[sage raptor]

I have a higher form of thinking

[undone pumice]

#preservethecurve

[onyx vale]

anyway that's not important, what's important is that baine is a massive bitch

[undone pumice]

now that i look at the fax

true

[onyx vale]

he is so fucking trash the jailer just threw him away like Andy in toys' story

[undone pumice]

baine is a bit of a bitch

[onyx vale]

he had him in his hand, he didn't kill him

he just threw him away cuz he is that worthless

[undone pumice]

but he helped me get the cool totem transmog so i cant hate him

[onyx vale]

even the jailer, the worst villain in this game's history couldn't take baine seriously

[zenith marlin]

what is jailer

[undone pumice]

eitrigg for warchief when

[onyx vale]

I beat up eitrigg and ran him in the streets of orgrimmar like a dog

[zenith marlin]

highest rated orc warrior should be warchief

[undone pumice]

what

[onyx vale]

man I hate every single modern horde characters

[undone pumice]

stop eitrigg bullying

bro needs some respect

bro has fought in ALL the wars

[hollow smelt]

bro when 1 guy in solo tells you arms is dead and not viable

meanwhile people are 2.4k +

ffs man

[zenith marlin]

anyone against arms is low skill

and casuay

[hollow smelt]

would send them to the guilutine

[undone pumice]

french?

[sage raptor]

Idk if that's a good measurement to see is something is viable when bloodzin gets to 2400 with bdk

[onyx vale]

there are always people at 2k4+, even when the specs are literal trash, what would be more interesting is the % of arms at 2k4

[zenith marlin]

DK is a leather class

[onyx vale]

anyone got the numbers

[sage raptor]

Cloth

Necromancer

[hollow smelt]

yeah but its still doable to get 2.4

[brazen rock]

yup, smexxin could get 2.4k with a gray vendor 2h

[hollow smelt]

its bad when spec cant get there at all

[undone pumice]

highest rated warrior overall is arms

[hollow smelt]

exactly

[onyx vale]

every spec in the game can get to 2k4 in every patch

[zenith marlin]

if i get 2.4k warr is busted

cuz i don't think or see

[undone pumice]

u wont

[zenith marlin]

i zug zug

[onyx vale]

give it to some multi glad insane troglodyte and he'll do it

[torpid roost]

I think every dps/healer is above 2400 in at least a few examples, yes

[thick reef]

2400+ doesnt show spec but

[torpid roost]

tanks aren't, but, they shouldn't be

[hollow smelt]

dhs

lmfao

[torpid roost]

click "spec" and it should show

[quick carbon]

the thing i hate ab shuffle

is ppl use shuffle as an indication for balance

[onyx vale]

ahhh the good old skirmish mode

[thick reef]

https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/statistics/3v3/all/

[quick carbon]

like no1 in thr right mind should believe rogue isnt better than ww/dh

[torpid roost]

well shuffle seems like it should be an okay indicator of balance, except that there's near-zero team coordination

[onyx vale]

i mean i wouldn't be against nerfing shadowpriest and dh

but yes, break the rogues' knees

[zenith marlin]

actually 3s is weak logistics and team building

its cringe

[quick carbon]

any rep statistics

r horrible indications

for balance

tbh

[torpid roost]

well, then what stats would you cite

[zenith marlin]

ss > premade 3s

[torpid roost]

wait until AWS?

[quick carbon]

like hunters are always low rep but jungle is almost always busted beyond belief

[torpid roost]

or, AWC, lol

[quick carbon]

im just saying rep =/= viability

[onyx vale]

nah, arms had like 30%+ rep in early shadowlands

prime nerf

[quick carbon]

im not saying ppl dont play broken specss

[hollow smelt]

i feel like arms should have ignore pain too

[torpid roost]

I just want warriors in the comfy above average tier

[quick carbon]

im saying even the under rep'd specs

are sometimes insane

too

[torpid roost]

oh, oh, nevermind, misunderstood your initial argument

[onyx vale]

that's true

[thick reef]

true

[onyx vale]

but it doesnt mean you should completely ignore rep

[torpid roost]

and yeah sometimes people just don't play something because it's ass to play, not that it's bad

[quick carbon]

like in shaddowlands right

hunters had

GARBAGE

rep

but were still INSANEEEE

[thick reef]

fury titan grip should give some kind of chained fist for disarm immunity

imo

[hollow smelt]

you saw kasu and bice play still

even if bad rep

[fair tide]

woo another 5-0 and someone leaves

[torpid roost]

disarm immunity

[onyx vale]

hunters have garbage rep cuz contrary to what pepegas say it's harder to play hunter than their specs

except bm

[thick reef]

what kind of titan drops his weapons

ffs

[onyx vale]

bm is just retarded

[torpid roost]

maybe a lot of classes should have an option for a disarm reduction, immunity seems.... a bit excessive though, lol

[thick reef]

or if you get disarmed you drop one and for the disarm duration you become an arms warrior

[cunning bolt]

what the fuck they changed on Solo Shuffle MMR????

this is just Bullshit...

[torpid roost]

according to this chat, nothing, it's just because you're bad/old

yeah I've dumpstered a ton of rating today, dunno

just gonna grind through it

[pure hornet]

I have 230 rating so if i loose i still get 400 plus rating

[torpid roost]

I was mid 1400s and climbing easily and now I'm losing huge amounts per loss and gaining nearly nothing in 1200s

but, again, just bad, old, kill yourself, etc

[cunning bolt]

4 win = 10 mmr... 3 win= 0 mm... 2 win = -60 mmr... people matched with u : 1 win = +60 mmr ;D :R :R

[torpid roost]

people matched with me aren't like that

except the ones that are like, sub-1k and stuff

they still gain huge amounts with shit records, yes

[wispy cedar]

There’s probably a critical issue if you are stuck

[torpid roost]

but that is my experience with my rating today/yesterday

I'm sure I'm shit, that's so far from the point, but nobody wanted to hear it, there genuinely seems to be an issue

[mystic barn]

if you post vods of games that could help lmao

thats it

[torpid roost]

that would help how

[mystic barn]

see what ur lacking/

?

[torpid roost]

that would explain why I'm losing >50 for a single loss

and gaining 5-10 for a win

[mystic barn]

ur mmr is in the dumpster

[full quiver]

Lol jfc man

[torpid roost]

when I was gaining healthily at 250 points higher

like 2 days ago

[full quiver]

Just go write in a word document about shuffle

[wispy cedar]

what’s your cr

[full quiver]

Then read it and see how stupid you sound

[torpid roost]

1211 now, from ~mid 1400's, I think 1440

[wispy cedar]

holy crap how many games

[torpid roost]

55W 108L

[brazen rock]

not going 6-0 in placements and starting at 1800 mmr

oof.

[wispy cedar]

if you feel like you improved, make an alt

you’re not coming back from that

[fickle forge]

Still waiting on a VoD so we can help ya for real fam

[full quiver]

How are u expecting to climb with a negative win loss

[warped warren]

WHAT

HOW

[mystic barn]

OK that is why your mmr is in the dumpster, at least you are honest

[full quiver]

Lol

[torpid roost]

lmfao sorry

55w 108played

[warped warren]

omg

[torpid roost]

am retarded

[mystic barn]

we are aware

[wispy cedar]

that’s not as bad

[warped warren]

i was getting worried

[full quiver]

So you're even

[torpid roost]

aaahahahahaha

[fickle forge]

About 50% win rate and likely 1200 MMR

So you are where you should be

[wispy cedar]

you can come back from that

[full quiver]

That's why you're not climbing lol

[fickle forge]

Now it's just time to improve and get the MMR and rating up

[mystic barn]

and if you post vods and we can critique it, you could probably win more, which would raise ur mmr

lol

its not rocket science

[torpid roost]

no, I am falling, because I lose a ton when I go 2/6, and gain nearly nothing 4/6, that was the whole question

[mystic barn]

game thinks you are where you belong currently

[torpid roost]

you guys made it about LOL UR BAD and shit

[mystic barn]

well

the game thinks that too

so

[torpid roost]

it's still happening even after 300 points loss

[warped warren]

LOL UR BAD HAHAH

[fickle forge]

Because that's how it works lol

Your MMR determines your rating gain

[mystic barn]

because the game thinks you should be even lower cr

[torpid roost]

then how the hell did I get to the 1400s?

[mystic barn]

than what you are

lol

[wispy cedar]

yea you gotta fix your mmr

[mystic barn]

placement games

?

[wispy cedar]

if not it’s gonna stick you there

[warped warren]

no way you got to 1400 D:

[wispy cedar]

you can grind it out

or try again

[torpid roost]

... dude

that's the whole point of me bitching

[fickle forge]

And ye, if going even makes you lose rating, it's cause the game, aka MMR, thinks you deserve less than what you have

[wispy cedar]

that’s how mmr works lol

[torpid roost]

haven't gone even today

will report when I do

[fickle forge]

Same principal though

[mystic barn]

so you are bad, the game thinks you are worse, and you should be lower. so start winning

and you get mmr

lol

[wispy cedar]

VoDs can help. focus on improving one aspect at a time

[torpid roost]

so game thought I was >1400, now it thinks I'm sub-1200, having won/lost no games in the intervening time?

[wispy cedar]

people here will give you legitimate advice if you post a vod

[fickle forge]

^

[full quiver]

Just leave if you go less than 4-2

Until you fix mmr

Ezpz

[torpid roost]

I'm not gonna play the leaver game, that's fucked

[full quiver]

😎

[wispy cedar]

you will get memed on by people like scoober if you just complain

trolls like that look for easy pickings

[thick reef]

cause its relative to the people youre playing with ive seen people get 6 wins and get 0 rating it happens

[full quiver]

Shut up low

[full quiver]

Low said he likes hitler

[wispy cedar]

wtf

[torpid roost]

I really don't give a shit what he says, but, yeah, I have gameplay gaps

[full quiver]

Yeah no shit

[mystic barn]

dont be mean scoobz

[full quiver]

We all do

[torpid roost]

like my worst one is probably laziness.... by laziness I mean macroing CS and SB together. Let the memeing begin, etc, I need to quit that shit

[thick reef]

back to 2k in shuffle hoozah

now i shall drop 300

[torpid roost]

they probably adjusted the MMR calculation and I got fucked hard by it somehow, which is recoverable

was that today, Certainbuds?

[wispy cedar]

idk

[thick reef]

yes

[wispy cedar]

I think the statement was made in about 5 posts

and this keeps going on

[thick reef]

played from 1900 to 2k last couple queues

[torpid roost]

You say get better. You are correct, but it is irrelevant to the question I had.

Circular argument is circular

[undone pumice]

sb?

[fickle forge]

[wispy cedar]

what’s your question

[torpid roost]

"I think MMR is broken" "get better" "yeah I get that but MMR seems fucked" "get better" lather rinse repeat, going nowhere

[undone pumice]

butits true

[full quiver]

Mmr is not ficked if ur 50/50 man wtf lol

[torpid roost]

Sharpen Blade, Manof

[undone pumice]

wtf

[thick reef]

its not that broken

[fickle forge]

Yeah but your argument is that you think MMR is broken cause you're hardstuck 1200 when you were 2600 in Cataclysm

[wispy cedar]

what did you go in your placement games?

[torpid roost]

it is not, karg

[wispy cedar]

if you got 1400 mmr in placements

and went 50/50 for 100+ games

[torpid roost]

I have no idea, how many games are placement?

[fickle forge]

10

[torpid roost]

probably terrible then

[wispy cedar]

mmr is not broken and if you trended downward later, it will go down

[torpid roost]

but then why was I so much higher previously/what caused the precipitous drop

[thick reef]

losing

[torpid roost]

higher previously in this expansion, not previous xp

[mystic barn]

remember how you mentioned mongo cd usage

[wispy cedar]

did you go negative multiple shuffles in a row?

[mystic barn]

you are the mongo

[quasi lotus]

hey on the brightside, mmr inflates weekly so

vibe for 3 months and you can hit 1400 again

[thick reef]

shuffle rating not gonna be the same atm as regular arena rating ..

[wispy cedar]

lmfao

[torpid roost]

not a huge streak, worst has been 2 2/6 in a row today

[thick reef]

stop doing that

[wispy cedar]

what idiot got emotes banned in this discord

[mystic barn]

scoobz

[fickle forge]

If you really want shuffle rating, just roll DH

[thick reef]

^

[mystic barn]

he kept replying to peoples posts with the gay pride flag

[torpid roost]

my undergeared rogue I' m bad at is higher rated, lmfao

[thick reef]

lol

[full quiver]

Lol

[wispy cedar]

see I only reply with the German flag

[full quiver]

It was banned before I came in

I think

[mystic barn]

we cant react with emojis anymore

[full quiver]

I would def use it non stop

[torpid roost]

Then how were you replying with the pride flag HMMMMM?1

[full quiver]

If be replying with rofls on every one of your stupid posts

[thick reef]

literally the cccp

[wispy cedar]

Scooberz is gay and gets the pass

[full quiver]

Yeah i fuck lows dad

[torpid roost]

you added a "p" there

and it's "gives" not "gets"

[full quiver]

🤣

Sounds like u in shuffle

[torpid roost]

well I am a warrior, either inserting something in someone's ass or taking it

there's a reason our class color is brown, after all

[undone pumice]

cuz we shit all over everyone

[pure hornet]

Hpy mew year all

[lean mason]

So what you saying is that we are the dung eater dude in elden ring

[pure hornet]

You too God

King Garosh

[wheat crane]

Its been banned for years

Which sucks

I feel like its time we have nice things again tho

[torpid roost]

on the one hand it's useful sometimes, on the other, it'd be about 90% toxic usage, so mods probably don't like it

[wheat crane]

This is lowkey the least toxic discord

Also the one that has the least to do with wow overall tho

So

Mixed bag?

[torpid roost]

I've never gotten the responses I've gotten in here on the rogue/priest/warlock discord, lol

[thick reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UWqO1GuEIw pikaboo understands us

[torpid roost]

warlocks are a bit autismal but otherwise pretty nice people

[wheat crane]

Yea epicburns a good dude

Hes like 75% of the lock pvp discord

[torpid roost]

oh shit pika picked up warrior?

I'm impressed with his play and all that, but, it's more that he can narrate exactly what he's doing the whole time, calmly explain the strats, interact with chat, while playing at a high level, that shit kinda blows me away

[wheat crane]

He does narrate very well

[quick carbon]

the bleed build with no skullsplitter does unga damage

[low rain]

bleed build?

[lucid walrus]

he played it in SL and cackled at how easy it was as well

think he understands how different things are now

[fickle forge]

You're welcome, we're always happy to help 😎 👍

[fair tide]

every class pikaboo picks up he gets nerfed because he farms 1400 teams for stream content

[high creek]

what are u going instead of skulllsplitter?

[sage raptor]

that is the most insane thing to complain about lol

[high creek]

do you guys go shattering throw always vs ret? or rather break shields? esp vs disc as healer for example

[brazen rock]

Bullying wizards with dh pressure doesn't count lukey

[undone pumice]

shatter

always gooder imo

[craggy cloak]

U'll get more pressure out of shatter with bubble break, it's just too good to pass up

Can u shatter the guardian angel transformation thing btw M

?

[thick reef]

Seems people have started smartng up and CCing the warrior when the bubble comes up

The cast time on throw is dumb

[craggy cloak]

It just breaks the flow so much

[undone pumice]

just sr before shatter

reflect hoj

[scarlet barn]

Reflect dn

[undone pumice]

i love spending new years eve in 30 min queues for ppl to just leave when they arent performing

:DDDD

[thick reef]

Did you consider not being a loser?

[undone pumice]

did you consider not being a panda

[torpid roost]

that's literally been a thing since like, forever, you always CC the warrior on pally bubble

same with priests

[torpid roost]

otherwise it buys him reactiontimeofwarrior+1gcd

[near delta]

Can also intervene it lol

[sharp meteor]

Pandas are so cool, though.

[undone pumice]

not cow

wrong furry race

[thick reef]

Unfair that only warrior can do it
They need to give DH a shatter on a 0 cooldown

[torpid roost]

coughpriestcough

[sharp meteor]

Tauren are dorky.

[undone pumice]

tauren bik man

[thick reef]

Tauren ladies were ruined in the model update, like outright butchered

[sharp meteor]

Yer.

[undone pumice]

dont be a woman?

its free now

[thick reef]

I know so many long time lady cows who race changed soon after the update.

[torpid roost]

it's 2022, almost 2023, you don't let anyone tell you what gender you are/aren't

I like that barbers can do that now though, that's.... scary

[sharp meteor]

I almost kind of want a male tauren warr alt. Hmm.

[undone pumice]

barbers do a little snip snip

[thick reef]

Its a new year, lets all chill

Though it is funny when people panic over Panda's racial CC. I've had so many people blow their trinket on that

[undone pumice]

nobody expects the palm to the balls

[thick reef]

PvPing Pandas are rare, rarer still ones that use their racial

[sharp meteor]

I mean it is often unexpected.

Full incap to top off a cc chain when your comp doesn't have an incap is like

goes from "you fine" to "oh i have to trinket this" real quick.