its the 200k radiant decree or lava bursts that get me
#pvp
kindred flame
undone pumice
if warrior is tanky he just spams iv on his mate and give shim effectively a phys bubble for a few seconds every 30s
thick reef
You say that. But those same classes are good at one area while also excelling in other areas at the moment.
You're looking at past design where most classes indeed were focused on a few small areas.
With the talent rework thats kinda gone. So many classes are now sporting swiss army specs that do a lot of everything.
thick reef
I mean thers certainly a middle ground between gigatanky and the current where they're made of paper.
undone pumice
imo arms is in a fine spot, the only things i'd want is maybe ip
tribal wedge
yes, arms feel really fine, we just a need a little def up, and we're so fine
thick reef
Its in a fine spot, as a middling melee DPS that is more easily killed than anyone and is only brought for their initial burst damage which others can also bring while also not dying to a brief breeze and doing a better job controlling the flow with CC and support.
kindred flame
yeah but we're getting the opposite
undone pumice
arms is like knifes edge balancing rn
kindred flame
so is it defense in the way of being even more offensive?
undone pumice
it has a lot of dmg and will get even more dmg
so if it gets any defensive buffs after the future dmg buffs it will be mega op
currently its like A tier imo
thick reef
Arms is only fine if you ignore every other melee but ret, feral, and combat.
Poor Paladins, jfc
kindred flame
yup
thick reef
Arms is firmly mid.
kindred flame
idk ret is kinda crazy
undone pumice
pretty sure the only objectively bad melee are ret and outlaw
kindred flame
and feral is too
undone pumice
everything else is either strong or balanced in a loose definition
kindred flame
but ret slapping 200k radiant decrees is not the answer
kindred flame
ret definietly slaps if the rng is right
thick reef
DH, WW, assassin, Unholy, all shit all over warrior.
And no, Arms is certainly stronger than Ret. Ret is bottom tier, arms is mid.
kindred flame
idk how it works but ive gotten two shot by ret a few times
and seen it a few times, but 99% of the time theyre just trash it seems
undone pumice
DH, WW, assassin, Unholy, all shit all over warrior.
And no, Arms is certainly ...
they shit over everyone because theyre literally the strongest specs
thick reef
Yes, which means Arms is mid.
undone pumice
what
thick reef
They're not strong, they're not weak.
undone pumice
arms is strong
kindred flame
but arms is stronger in 2s i think than fury
undone pumice
xd?
thick reef
Arms isnt strong, you cant just not count the strongest specs because they're the strongest.
Especcially when theres so many of them
undone pumice
arms is the strongest/2nd strobgest of the non busted specs
kindred flame
and where does that put unholy dk? are they a problem for everyone or just war
safe jewel
arms is the strongest/2nd strobgest of the non busted specs
That's some really flawed logic there
thick reef
"Arms is strong, so long as you do not count the specs above them"
undone pumice
and where does that put unholy dk? are they a problem for everyone or just war
unholy is a criminal spec
thick reef
Thats just flat out denial
undone pumice
i am in denial yes
kindred flame
its obnoixoius dude
safe jewel
I mean, it's true. But to use that as an argument for arms being strong is just absurd
undone pumice
arms is decently strong
thick reef
Arms is mid.
undone pumice
joe mama is mid
thick reef
Not weak, not strong. You admit there are multiple classes far above warrior.
safe jewel
No it's not, it gets run over by all the top tier specs which means it's middle of the pack
kindred flame
but if people are playing it at a high level then i think we can objectively agree its "strong"
undone pumice
it doesnt get run over wdym
safe jewel
Maybe not "all", but the ones listed above which you want to exclude from your considerations
Yes it does, you pop parry, and then what happens after?
thick reef
it doesnt get run over wdym
being run over would make them "weak".
undone pumice
i survive the go
and then i start slapping them
if melees are the meta i dont think arms can be weak just cause parry exists
thick reef
This is a world with Demo locks, ShP, and Elem shaman being in the top 5
The meta isnt melee
safe jewel
I cannot make any arguments from actual experience, I've only done solo shuffle to get weekly vault rewards. But you can look at the statistics and let that guide your judgement
kindred flame
ele sham and spriest are gross
undone pumice
This is a world with Demo locks, ShP, and Elem shaman being in the top 5
The me...
the meta is those 3 + like 5 melees
kindred flame
further down solo ladders i wonered where the ele shams were.. then i got up around 1800 and theyre in every game
thick reef
Yes, and?
thick reef
Arms is good, so long as you ignore anyomne whose better, got it.
undone pumice
arms is good as long as you dont get owned by casters
kindred flame
i think we also have to factor in the team aspect
undone pumice
just los bro simple as
kindred flame
arms gets utility and survivability from teammates
thick reef
Arms is good, so long as you dont get owned by the multiple casters who are currently the top meta classes
Or the melee who can also shut them down.
safe jewel
That's clearly a false statement, are you being a contrarian just for the sake of it?
undone pumice
i genuinely believe arms is good
thick reef
I think he's one of those arms bros who confuses "Needing to struggle to succeed" with "Look how big my willie is"
thick reef
The same sort who bitched and moaned that fury was maybe pvp viable due to having some mid tier self healing because that means muh arms isnt the king for a week or two.
safe jewel
There's a big difference between being "balanced" and being "good". It may be balanced with respect to the majority of the classes in the game. But those which are actually strong (i.e. "overtuned" or "overpowered") certainly don't count arms warriors amongst their numbers
undone pumice
what are the strongest war comps atm?
warr/sp/x
kitty
these 2 p strong imo
thick reef
Exactly, at no point did I saw arms was weak.
Just that a large number of specs are unquestionably above them and stronger picks.
undone pumice
great point, now post bench
thick reef
Being viable isnt the same as being particularly strong. You can find people in high ranks with every spec but, most, of the tanks.
Nor is saying there are specs higher than your spec of choice the same as saying your spec of choice is garbage.
undone pumice
i identify as the best spec, please respect this
thick reef
Its not a personal attack to note that there are many far out performing you.
undone pumice
it is since i identify as the best spec
lusty moth
can’t end on a lose brother
kindred flame
na i like fury better for solo shuff
im not tauruz
im gonna at least get a 5 rounder
now that my mmr is dogshit lol
pure hornet
I seem to do more damage as arms
marble bone
Play what ever you enjoy the most
stuck karma
i was just at 1773... 4 games ago... now im 1550
Wth, hang in there, itll turn around
kindred flame
well i also queued at 1773, got into a game won the first 4 rounds and then someone left
so i had 1800 in my clutches hahaha
and then played triggered for like 4 games
i think i need coaching.. maybe ill post a game or two in the gameplauy review channel
long ridge
did they hotfix nerf fury or am i just sucking today
obsidian loom
arms isnt using skullsplitter anymore right?
thick reef
did they hotfix nerf fury or am i just sucking today
Fury bros got raped like a backalley whore
thick reef
You guys think arms is better for solo shufle
Fury is better for low MMR solo shuffle since you can compensate for poor heals much better.
Once the patch comes, assuming no changes, arms will pull ahead at all levels more than likely.
Though I'm not entirely sold on that. I think it'll just shift them towards being a focus target.
I already kinda enjoy seeing arms warrior as opponents as I always make them the focus target and the rounds end fast.
Its like fighting a rogue who cant stop you.
thick reef
Seems a lot arent quiet aware of how squishy arms is. Whenever they're a focus they melt.
long ridge
i know fury got nerfed like previously but i didn't start playing it until after the nerf 1-2 weeks ago
i think i just suck today
silk flicker
they either stay bstance and die or switch to dstance and do no damage (and then die)
long ridge
yes arms is very squish
thick reef
If you queue as Arms in SS you deserve the assfucking
Simple as
Mentioned this yesterday.
Anyone know of the board gaming term "Distraction Carnifex"?
10.0.5 arms will be a distraction Carnifex. A big threat due to the big damage, so they need to be focused down before anything else.
Doesn't work in SS, as you aren't really distracting
They win when they shit on you
You have to hope your team has the ability to actually keep you alive to do shit
Oh for sure, its not a thing that'll actually WORK since the distraction Carnifex was also tanky
long ridge
do you guys pop reck and avatar same time then rampage then roar?
thick reef
do you guys pop reck and avatar same time then rampage then roar?
Depends on comp
Any comp that roots you don't want to autopop Avatar
long ridge
lets say just general SS first moments
thick reef
I hold on to my murder mode till I see the defensives have been blown
long ridge
oh I see save avatar for root
thick reef
Yeah, if you see no root send them back to God
other wise you go murder but whoops the rogue evaded
thick reef
other wise you go murder but whoops the rogue evaded
Sounds like Storm Bolt was on CD
Uh oh one of a half dozen classes just disarmed me
long ridge
yeah but if i dont use big cooldowns at the start in SS it seems like I put no pressure
silk flicker
whoops you got cloned
thick reef
yeah but if i dont use big cooldowns at the start in SS it seems like I put no p...
I'm glad you understand
te he, the priest is a cloud of smoke now and back to full
You don't do shit w/o crit procs
Arms is the gambling mans burst.
long ridge
but my main point is like
thick reef
Blow it all then get baby sat
long ridge
you gotta rampage to get enrage before casting roar and shit right
thick reef
avatar and odyns also proc enrage if you spec for it, which you should
thick reef
you gotta rampage to get enrage before casting roar and shit right
Avatar can Enrage w/ talent
long ridge
if u roar or odyn outside of enrage it's a waste right
oh yeah i do have titanic rage
thick reef
if u roar or odyn outside of enrage it's a waste right
Avatar & Odyn's both Enrage before damaging
So both odyns rage and avatar enrage you
long ridge
oh so split those cooldowns up
thick reef
just make sure you use those before roar and g2g
Being Enraged isn't the problem
It's eating a CC before you get the chance to murderfuck them
Or defensives
long ridge
true
thick reef
or them trinketting your cc so they just, walk away
But if shields are down, pop everything and rape em
ITs why arms is so much better in a coordinated group, you HAVE to have your whole team dedicating themselves to your moment
Because you're so easily shut down, and chances are you'll only have the one chance
Fury less so, but you have less dps
Not by terribly much, but you do largely have all the same cons aside from being more tanky
So you may be able to burst twice maybe even thrice
Yeah, Fury is more forgiving on how fucked you are if you whiff the burst
long ridge
do you guys run HP trinket as fury in SS
thick reef
Nope
long ridge
i noticed i am geting focused even as fury sometimes
thick reef
I play Proc trink
long ridge
used to be people ignored me but
thick reef
i noticed i am geting focused even as fury sometimes
I live for this moment
Frenzied, Bitter, Impending, Rallying, God that makes me erect
I love being the brick shithouse
thick reef
I love being the brick shithouse
Now now, everyone knows the true Warrior fantasy is being more easily gutted than a wizard in a robe
silk flicker
Frenzied, Bitter, Impending, Rallying, God that makes me erect
you mean pop enraged regen and get disarmed 😉
thick reef
you mean pop enraged regen and get disarmed 😉
You can do everything else while Disarmed
Still vibing
Enraged regen also still offers a flat defense boost and can be used when you most need it
Heal if you talent into it too
Its weird that warrior gets basic shit others have had for ages and its treated like the second coming of christ
Are warrior mains just gluttons for punishment? Its the feeling i get in this discord. Theres this weird pride over the dated design of the class.
brazen rock
Are warrior mains just gluttons for punishment? Its the feeling i get in this di...
its not that deep m8.
long ridge
i just like boom bang zug zug
thick reef
I dunno, the arms players were absolutely losing their shit at a fanatical level when DF launched at the thought that fury may have pulled ahead for pvp.
green wyvern
bright stream
I dunno, the arms players were absolutely losing their shit at a fanatical level...
not really a surprise, fury is very simple compared to arms
long ridge
fury and arms trade #1 spot every once and awhile
bright stream
and was very good all of slands
thick reef
not really a surprise, fury is very simple compared to arms
case and point
long ridge
i disagree i think fury and arms are both easy to play
unless you are referring to what was mentioned earlier that arms requires more coordination and communication
bright stream
i disagree i think fury and arms are both easy to play
relatively speaking?
we're talking about a 2-3 button spec with few to no circumstantial changes to ability priority (fury) vs arms
long ridge
arms is also 2-3 button spec
bright stream
arms is also 2-3 button spec
if you open your spellbook you'll see that there are multiple pages for other specs
long ridge
sorry but fury, arms and prot are all simple specs
thick reef
Yea and most those abilities don’t turn the class into more than a 3 button dps rotation spec
Arms just as easy as fury
brazen rock
sorry but fury, arms and prot are all simple specs
nothing in this game is difficult
literally every spec is 2-3 builder/spenders and then minor CDs to rotate through
bright stream
Blood thirst+Blood Thirst -> Rampage, this spec is the same as
steep inlet
arms is also 2-3 button spec
Not at high rating
thick reef
all dps specs are simple.
If you didn't make overly generalized statements, you wouldn't need to clarify
steep inlet
You have to use all toolkit
bright stream
maintain rend, MS once every 6 seconds, dump rage with slam, overpower on cd, and try to line up CS with the MS
brazen rock
If you didn't make overly generalized statements, you wouldn't need to clarify
buhhhhbuhbhhh
christ
steep inlet
maintain rend, MS once every 6 seconds, dump rage with slam, overpower on cd, an...
Hello it’s just dmg rotation. There is toolkit to use too
long ridge
? cs before ms, okay that's just like enrage before roar etc priority.. ms every 6 seconds.. okay just press button when it's available just like rampage
brazen rock
? cs before ms, okay that's just like enrage before roar etc priority.. ms every...
enrage auto applies bud
fury literally doesn't need to think about it
bright stream
Hello it’s just dmg rotation. There is toolkit to use too
the toolkit is bigger in arms
bright stream
we're not talking about that, because if we were we'd be talking about something stupid
like it's fine if you want fury to be a reasonable spec, or good, etc
long ridge
i think we agree that arms is more complicated but i don't think it's significant, maybe like 5/10 difficulty instead of 4/10
bright stream
but if you think arms == fury in complexity like.. I don't know what to tell you
bright stream
i think we agree that arms is more complicated but i don't think it's significan...
get to a higher rating where your damage profile and rotation impacts wins/losses and get back to me
long ridge
what rating are you
brazen rock
thick reef
That’s a fair question when the man keeps using high rating as an example in his debate
Tbh
watch him be a 1400 andy
bright stream
That’s a fair question when the man keeps using high rating as an example in his...
I'm not using rating as a crutch to justify my position, but pointing out that the poster is pushing his opinion on a matter without appropriate experience
but
thick reef
Post physique
Gib rating
This entire conversation is now void. Have a good day men
bright stream
bright stream
This entire conversation is now void. Have a good day men
settle down, had to swap my spec for your silly screen cap
thick reef
🤓
thick reef
bright stream
man posted his low rating shuffle xp as proof
shadowrealm of lfg duelist for years
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/frostmourne/wolfsrage
fierce elm
DUELIST
full quiver
You haven't even got duelist on warrior
full quiver
twilit ridge
fierce elm
twilit ridge
mine isn't impressive I just want higher view count
twilit ridge
not clicking on that just to spite you
wow
mystic barn
cringe
twilit ridge
@mystic barn
don't make me get my main
mystic barn
ur main xp is my alt xp
bright stream
You haven't even got duelist on warrior
nah I've been a dk player most seasons I've tried to PvP
quasi lotus
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Sargeras/Raime
Id rather be duelist
bright stream
but if you really care you can do the homework on looking other the other character
undone pumice
isnt hota/hoth usually lower than hw/gm?
brazen rock
@bright stream remember you cant have an opinion unless your a 4x or more r1 glad
twilit ridge
Id rather be duelist
Tren duelist
full quiver
Right but weren't you arguing about warrior lol
undone pumice
im speaking generally very very generally
quasi lotus
Rbg hero deffo more disgust than career duelist
full quiver
Raime is a beast
twilit ridge
im speaking generally very very generally
Ye ik it just depends on how dead rbg is
full quiver
But he played with pedophiles for his heri
undone pumice
haha
twilit ridge
But he played with pedophiles for his heri
I did not play with Gracexo
bright stream
<@128065908781350912> remember you cant have an opinion unless your a 4x or more...
fuck me right?
twilit ridge
And I haven't played with u @full quiver
mystic barn
im speaking generally very very generally
ur speaking like a noob
full quiver
fierce elm
Well you see opinions can be outright wrong and generally if you have a higher CR/XP your opinions tend to be correct
nerds
mystic barn
if that’s u I farmed you several times
bright stream
Right but weren't you arguing about warrior lol
we were arguing about how many buttons are in arms vs fury, old mate reckons its the same, and if he'd ever played at anything above challenger he'd know you need to get more out of your class than that
thick reef
twilit ridge
if that’s u I farmed you several times
I read the icy veins guide bud
fierce elm
Fury and Arms are equally braindead
undone pumice
shut up afro
mystic barn
Pepsi too sweet for me @twilit ridge
full quiver
Well you see opinions can be outright wrong and generally if you have a higher C...
Afro is 0xp sl s3 s4 df s1
undone pumice
arms requires at least half a braincell more
fierce elm
0xp 
bright stream
arms requires at least half a braincell more
we're not even talking about if arms is hard, just how fucking simple fury is
fierce elm
Go hit the gym dweebs, improve your life instead of arguing over 3d pixels
twilit ridge
Arms only
bright stream
like fury is literally 2-3 buttons, I don't get why people have to be defensive about their simple spec
mystic barn
arms press op and mortal
twilit ridge
Fury's for crossfitters
quasi lotus
As opposed to the 2-3 button rotation that arms also has?
Very different
Half the classes in the game are on a 3 button rotation
bright stream
Half the classes in the game are on a 3 button rotation
fury is the only one that doesn't have a button 4 or 5 for sometimes presses
fierce elm
Ah sheesh
fierce elm
Every dps spec is absolutely fucking braindead
quasi lotus
Ice lance ice lance ice lance ice lance
scarlet barn
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Blood%20Furnace/Ndogofury
Oh no
undone pumice
hahah
shut tangle
is annihilator the best for fury rn? I just resubbed on christmas. 2797 CR last season. need some refresher/ help with new talents and rotation
long ridge
for pvp yeah
fierce elm
Unsub wow instead
scarlet barn
People arguing over difficulty and amount of buttons of classes in wow always amuses me
But solo shuffle arguments even more
These days
long ridge
wolf to be fair
shut tangle
So is it spam bloodthirst, slam, rampage and basically everything on cd without rampage now?
this is so interest
long ridge
you are higher rated than i am
shut tangle
interesting*
long ridge
but i just started this week so
brazen rock
So is it spam bloodthirst, slam, rampage and basically everything on cd without ...
press slam once in a blue moon
shut tangle
so what is the rotation now?
scarlet barn
Every dps spec is absolutely fucking braindead
Most yea
green root
What’s doing better atm fury or arms
thick reef
Did I miss the arms players pretending arms is complicated and ignoring parts of furys kit that dont conform to their self fellation argument?
onyx vale
calm down girls, let's settle this
both specs are retarded
reroll rogue and become a true high skill ceiling chad
thick reef
May as well make a BINGO card for it at this point, the middle can be "Including CS for arms but not including Odyns for fury"
onyx vale
most skilled spec in the game rpz click click bang bang
thick reef
both specs are retarded
Agreed
safe harness
I find arms more boring cause i'm used to getting arthritis from fury tho
tbf I find any other spec difficult to get into now cause they feel slow lol
onyx vale
and you are allowed to prefer fury, lots of people do
twilit ridge
Rogue was my first class
onyx vale
honestly when people talk about arms I have the feeling they are thinking about something that no longer exists
thick reef
and you are allowed to prefer fury, lots of people do
Absolutely. I just find it funny how often arms needs to pretend they're some big brain spec.
onyx vale
its simply not the same since wod
safe harness
I'd like to have an alt class that isn't like top 3 played specs but just can't pick/settle for sth
onyx vale
ahhhh, wod, you ruined so many things
thick reef
Fuck, I prefer arms. Mostly because I think fury looks goofy. But not gonna do all this pretending that its not unga bunga.
twilit ridge
Garrosh did nothing wrong
onyx vale
it will never be the same
Garrosh did a lot of things wrong, starting by not executing Vol'jin in cataclysm
thankfully a trash mob fixed that mistake in legion
thick reef
Garrosh, the most inconsistently written character in the game. Stone Talon Garrosh was nothing like any other Garrosh in cata.
onyx vale
I remember Garrosh getting threatened by every single horde leader before he did anything
undone pumice
Garrosh did a lot of things wrong, starting by not executing Vol'jin in cataclys...
he shoudlve kept using his 1hers in the makgora so it cant be calleda crimtotem fluke
twilit ridge
Garrosh, the most inconsistently written character in the game. Stone Talon Garr...
This
thick reef
I remember Garrosh getting threatened by every single horde leader before he did...
His whole shtick relied on the people Thrall left for him, all turning on him for absolutly no reason. Its was maddening.
twilit ridge
I rarely take my tusks off
onyx vale
I don't even have the tusks, they only look good on male orcs and male orc model sucks since wod, so I stopped farming them
ahhh, all the elves and humans I see with them
Gives me conniptions
undone pumice
male orc model sucks because orc not meta anymore
thick reef
"Ok guys Thrall left me in charge and I'm an experienced leader who is still learning"
Cairne: Fuck you we're fighting to the death
Vol'Jin: Fuck you Imn going to kill you for your crime of existing
Sylvaanas: I'm not going to listen to anything you ever say
Lor'themar: Why did you let us do the exact thing I demanded you let me do on my own, on my own?! I'm leaving!
Gallywix: Thrall left me in charge despite being a amoral slaver lol
undone pumice
sad day in wow history
onyx vale
male orc model sucks cuz their animations are goofy and the straightback doesnt even have them and goes back to hunched
so I play female orc
male orc looks super good if you never move
long ridge
u still play orc? O_O
thick reef
Like Garrosh was so very wrong. But only beccause the writing was so very bad
onyx vale
unlike human players that " played for the skin I swear guys "
I didn't reroll dark iron
undone pumice
um
undone pumice
why didi just get the vicious war gorm and sabertooth at the same time?
wtf
i aint complaining but wtf
long ridge
cuz ur a bad mfer
undone pumice
is that positive or negative
long ridge
pos
undone pumice
nice
long ridge
❤️
undone pumice
<3
long ridge
undead female master race
onyx vale
undead female is pretty good
undone pumice
i love dwarves
tribal wedge
tauren's animation are 
thick reef
I wish Dwarves were horde
undone pumice
and i just racechanged to tauren from orc because after 3 years i was getting tired of the zug zug
onyx vale
I wish I could play with old models and animations
undone pumice
tauren's animation are <:critcake:984549832511344640>
tauren mortal strike is bis
literal BONK
tribal wedge
meeeeeh
undone pumice
comedic value overhead 0 degree strike
safe harness
I regret runnin elf but cba paying for change
undone pumice
its discounted rn
safe harness
hmm
undone pumice
i would never pay 25 for a race change LOL
long ridge
should i go iron dwarf? also rate my xmog
safe harness
still 17.50 tho
undone pumice
and become a small muscly bloke
safe harness
wasn't a fan of my ign name at first to but now it has grown on me lmao
but it wouldn't suit a tauren/orc
undone pumice
i coulda changed my name for free with the race change
but zw 2 character name wow epicè
safe harness
DaddyIssues is more of a female elf name
long ridge
how much of a difference in pvp does it make if i am east coast playing on west coast server? it's 30ms in game or so it says
undone pumice
DaddyIssues is more of a female elf name
absolutely bis for tauren
long ridge
50ms vs 80ms
safe harness
absolutely bis for tauren
my tauren alt is named Bigßonker
undone pumice
valid
long ridge
scroll over ? in mini bar
thick reef
Elf look OP
undone pumice
when i played cs it was on literally like 12 ping if i got lucky lol
come to europe
we have good ping
safe harness
eu gang
long ridge
omw
undone pumice
but our reset is 1 day later
undone pumice
psure realms dont matter aynmore
long ridge
yeah but i need to have crafters, maybe a pvp guild?
undone pumice
just get on a high pop one with good ping
safe harness
What do y'all do while waiting during solo shuffle queue's?
long ridge
furiously masturbate
safe harness
but the queu's last so long
long ridge
so do i
undone pumice
gather herbs and mine
safe harness
can you tmog farm while in queue?
fair tide
Yes
safe harness
okay that'll do for now then
high creek
so we bleed build now huh?
high creek
yessirrr
i see a lot of dropping execute talents and switching to roar and bleed support...personal preference at this point?
high creek
dope, guess i will play with both
long ridge
maybe i suck but sometimes i miss my spear
other times spear comes in clutch and they can't blink or leap out and stuff so it's cool
cinder thorn
What escape abilities does spear NOT work on?
mystic barn
u mean like ams / deaths advance?
trail wharf
Hi guys, I'm using this macro atm and was wondering is it possible to add a shift modifier to it where I can charge at my focus target?
#showtooltip Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast [@mouseover, exists, help, nodead] Intervene
/cast [exists, nodead, harm] Charge
/cast Hamstring
if so, how? 🙂
cinder thorn
if so, how? 🙂
Add /cast [@focus,mod:shift] Charge under your intervene line
trail wharf
Add /cast [@focus,mod:shift] Charge under your intervene line
Thanks! works perfectly 🙂
small silo
Been gone past two weeks did any pvp changes happen for arms specifically or still weaker on defensive side
long ridge
stillw eaker defensively
thick reef
whats best with fury in 2s?
brazen rock
whats best with fury in 2s?
rdru, prev
gaunt galleon
How survive better as fury in arenas?
long ridge
if you know you're the focus target u can use emblem for health
and spec for bitter immunity, and los caster or leap out, make sure u dont LOS ur healer
undone pumice
How survive better as fury in arenas?
trade cds better, take bimmunity, if really desperate m&c + inspiring
little lava
guys what is this thing that when lock uses gate he is immune to slows etc
undone pumice
cancer
little lava
worthy fern
@little lava talent where they have freedom after
torpid roost
tauren mortal strike is bis
I have a highmountain tauren priest
it makes me laugh IRL more than I'd like to admit
little lava
<@202820940130811904> talent where they have freedom after
whats the name of this talent, couldnt find it
torpid roost
"Roll Purple" I think is the name
raw summit
hollow ore
torpid roost
also highmountain tauren have really long arms
and they cornholio them over their head EVERY SINGLE CAST
I love it
pure hornet
If i buy with conquest the 424ilvl polearm with vers and mastery instead of sword with crit and vers is it ok? #arms warrior
Or is sword way better
sharp meteor
sword probs better for arms
torpid roost
except Skullsplitter build, yes
pure hornet
What about iron dwarf with 2k strenght
undone pumice
bis race
pure hornet
Yeah… i they where not so small i would never look back
Taureen for me diest it
Does*
torpid roost
yeah but like manlets in the gym, they're stronger for the first couple tiers
undone pumice
its not that theyre short its that they have piss short arms for bench and piss short legs for dl
torpid roost
I'll be damned - solo shuffle seems to be not an eternity now
undone pumice
they say patience is a virtue so all high rated solo players must be saints
pure hornet
Today at 2 pm
Dunno but solo shufle is unbearable
I heard tough as healer you get four nanoseconds instant que
undone pumice
ye but then ur playing ss as healer
scarlet barn
Ok mr
torpid roost
you could say that dumb shit about literally any melee class, find a different place to troll spaz
pure hornet
🤣🤣
torpid roost
after his mother got the clap from one
clear sparrow
You came to vent after getting clapped by warrior?
bro
torpid roost
take your antibiotics kids
scarlet barn
Good
onyx vale
torpid roost
oh, caught between 2, or, up to 4 2h, not a good day
pure hornet
80 k mortal strike?
torpid roost
and actually fury does just walk at things and mash, lmfao
scarlet barn
Im glad it happened
clear sparrow
is arms better now than fury or something
scarlet barn
clear sparrow
I've been seeing a lot of arms
clear sparrow
nah
onyx vale
help me step warrior i'm stuck
clear sparrow
i won
torpid roost
help me step warrior i'm stuck
KEK
torpid roost
priest bending over in spear
brazen rock
lmao is this actually a lock in here complaining about warrior
clear sparrow
lmao is this actually a lock in here complaining about warrior
it's a joke...
I'm not complaining idc
brazen rock
I just told someone to roll purple
either flavor is fine
scarlet barn
Locks are funny
brazen rock
I'm not complaining idc
oh so the standard "i was just pretending" nonsense
scarlet barn
Remember boosted ndogo
brazen rock
scarlet barn
That flexed solo shuffle rating
mystic barn
is arms better now than fury or something
arms op
clear sparrow
oh so the standard "i was just pretending" nonsense
whatever weirdo
mortal strike be pumping
brazen rock
whatever weirdo
you ok buddy
onyx vale
more like fury not very good
clear sparrow
u just play arms with healer comps?
brazen rock
?
onyx vale
ideally we play dh or ww
brazen rock
there are comps with no healer?
onyx vale
brazen rock
news to me
torpid roost
either flavor is fine
yeah like worst case they fuck up and roll DH and get 2650 anyway
brazen rock
some hidden secret lock tech i guess
onyx vale
are you implying demolock is somehow more skilled than dh
brazen rock
easy to pull off when you have 450k base hp and the best defensive package in the game
onyx vale
cuz I'm strongly disagreeing
man imagine having more than 1 defensive cd
must be nice
torpid roost
little too much damage, little too much sustain, little too much mobility
brazen rock
little too much utility.
pure hornet
I am jelous. A better version of us 😦
long ridge
anyone have a nameplate cooldowns profile that is more relevant for us rather than every cd
torpid roost
who decided to give dh our aoe fear but better
which they often don't use
pure hornet
Huh
torpid roost
polish blade
undone pumice
you don't often have a shield
real gamers have a sword and board equip macro to press sb vs ww
onyx vale
you some kind of weeb thinking you can stop a bullet with your blade?
pure hornet
I think spell reflect works without wtf
torpid roost
allows a -10% effectiveness shield wall to be used wiuthout a shield
onyx vale
yes spell reflect doesnt require a shield since
torpid roost
yes, it does, but it didn't, and it used to be called "shield reflect"
onyx vale
i think it was mop when we didn't need a shield anymore?
torpid roost
so a 20% damage reduction and immunity to knockback
yeah, thereabouts, rather than those god awful clunktastic equip macros
pre-equipment sets too
pure hornet
Why do i get focused in solo shufle
visual hedge
Is DID noticeably stronger? or just a min max
zenith marlin
ill 1v1 any DH
thick reef
God I hate spear, its too damned good but its such a bitch to aim
zenith marlin
Rip their wings like gutting a fish
thick reef
Why do i get focused in solo shufle
People are learning that warriors are made of paper
brazen rock
Why do i get focused in solo shufle
warrior is squishiest melee
zenith marlin
No leather class will face me
torpid roost
we aren't "Squishy"
we just can't really escape
we just have to take the buttfucking
zenith marlin
The harder u crit the less squishy u become
thick reef
we aren't "Squishy"
Warriors are, infact, squishy. Weaker defense actives, for arms, crappy healing
zenith marlin
They can't attack u when they are fleeing
onyx vale
fury isn't squishy, arms is 100% the most fragile melee in the game
zenith marlin
Best defense is pressure
onyx vale
even fucking ww have more defensive cds than us
zenith marlin
I am sure WWs are more squishy
thick reef
even fucking ww have more defensive cds than us
And more CC
zenith marlin
I mean I just hit through karma half the time
onyx vale
you hit through ring of piss too?
zenith marlin
I start spin
thick reef
I am sure WWs are more squishy
Theres a very large skill difference between good and bad WW is a big part of it.
pure hornet
Best defense is pressure
Hmm i love this
thick reef
More often than not they die easier than a fury warrior (not arms), because they dont know wtf they're doing.
A good WW though is a god of fucking war.
zenith marlin
We just afk defensive stance and than bstance every 90 seconds man lol
Legit braindead spec atm
zenith marlin
when both enemy dps are on me and I am not bursting yes
torpid roost
"Fragile" is probably the better term
onyx vale
for the good old -10% damage taken
zenith marlin
its 10% off their dmg done and 10% off ours
onyx vale
they surely must feel like quite the fools
pure hornet
Yeah good question. Should i stay more in defencs stance or battle?
zenith marlin
Its perfectly balanced in 3s
onyx vale
perfectly balanced when designed with ignore pain in mind
ignore pain we no longer have
onyx vale
there is nothing balanced about current arms, the design is stupid
half rain
Hey lads just checking in, is 38% verse too much
torpid roost
make me warrior dev for a month
onyx vale
it deals too much damage because pve buffs and is more fragile than a rogue
zenith marlin
make me a warr dev for 10 mins
torpid roost
10% diminishing returns at 30% vers
onyx vale
its made for nothing, current arms wasn't designed with pvp in mind
nor was it designed with pve since it's getting a fucking rework of its talents in a month
zenith marlin
I will remove any defensives we have intervane etc as well as mortal wounds
half rain
10% diminishing returns at 30% vers
So 38% is actually ~34.5%?
zenith marlin
then double our dmg
torpid roost
I don't know how that displays
like does it just give less per point and display correctly (I think this is how it works)
or if it's a hidden -10% after 30
zenith marlin
big doubt anything blizzard displays correct zd
torpid roost
and, agmius, I'm looking to make us good, not DHs
torpid roost
20% leech, double our damage
onyx vale
not the same as his "redesign"
torpid roost
CHUGGA CHUGGA CHOOOO CHOOOOOO
zenith marlin
When do we get a zug zug talent
torpid roost
89% mortal strike.... ON OURSELVES
clapador
zenith marlin
Fatality should be a buff not a debufd
torpid roost
they should get creative
zenith marlin
Very balanced imo
onyx vale
remove touch of death
zenith marlin
Make arms stronger as combat goes on xd
half rain
Make execute actually execute a target below 10%
torpid roost
like, warrior is too squishy and we need to encourage them to be aggro
zenith marlin
1% vers every 30 sec
onyx vale
that's called touched of death
half rain
🤷
onyx vale
talking about that, there was that really interesting design they dropped for diablo 3 barbarian where they couldn't spend rage
and just gain it and getting stronger as the fight went on
zenith marlin
we literally dont spend rage unless execute anyway
torpid roost
take the deep wounds healing thing
zenith marlin
then dump it all
torpid roost
and double it when mortal wounds is active
onyx vale
very good design
torpid roost
triple it when sharpen blade MS is up
small changes like that to every aspect of us
really making no sweeping retard changes
onyx vale
or give us ignore pain, or give us old second wind back ( not the mop broken one )
torpid roost
sure
zenith marlin
"I am Kargath Bladefist and when I kill something it stays dead." class fantasy vs the act class
onyx vale
well i wouldn't say no to mop warrior but that's not happening
torpid roost
Improved stances
onyx vale
kargath is a rogue
half rain
Give us back gladiator spec
torpid roost
glad spec was fun but that's basically battle stance aggro prot
onyx vale
gladiator stance was just a watered down mop fury spec
which was way better than wod arms and fury mind you
brazen rock
gladiator stance was fun as shit
onyx vale
but yes, give us back mop gameplay
zenith marlin
Yes
half rain
Donk give DK's Mop gameplay back
zenith marlin
BlOODBATH RECKLESSNESS AVATAR
onyx vale
do
zenith marlin
TRINKET BRRRERR
onyx vale
i fucking hate post wod dk
half rain
Or if they can que for 2's they aren't allowed a partner
onyx vale
well, unholy
half rain
would still win
zenith marlin
They lost a fight to become a DK
torpid roost
kek
onyx vale
how do you go from an unique spec that plays around runes and disease to another fucking rogue spec where you generate combos and spend them
fucking legion unholy
who decided this
half rain
Because blizzard want the classes to be as new player friendly as possible
zenith marlin
Blizzard hates all plate classes
onyx vale
its not even player friendly
half rain
And that means everyone who takes the game seriously get shit on
zenith marlin
And love leather classes
onyx vale
fucking unholy dk has like 7 burst cds
torpid roost
ret is a fucking wheelchair
mystic barn
how do you go from an unique spec that plays around runes and disease to another...
Where’s the combo damage for unholy
torpid roost
I BURST AND HAVE BUBBLE WHICH IS SOMEHOW THE WORST DEFENSIVE IN THE GAME NOW
half rain
helmet class for sure
onyx vale
all the smooth brains cry and go frost cuz they can't deal with more than 1 cd
zenith marlin
All those CDs just to get kekt by a random arms
thick reef
I hate how Unholy plays, I shelved them last expansion and havent looked back
mystic barn
You just rotate runes and runic power depending on resources
zenith marlin
There is only 1 DK and its Blood
thick reef
Just something about them feels off
zenith marlin
Rest are retris
torpid roost
Period Knights
onyx vale
you generate wounds, you spend wounds, you don't even play with your diseases anymore
thick reef
I also STILL wonder why Unholy was made the 2h spec when it was always the 2 1 hander spec up till legion
onyx vale
even if unholy was sold as the disease spec
onyx vale
and was from cataclysm to wod
zenith marlin
Cant be me
hot solstice
did 9mil in a shuffle claeving with full uptime with arms....udk did 15 mil...that fair
torpid roost
imagine mortal strike applying a necrotic effect
thick reef
did 9mil in a shuffle claeving with full uptime with arms....udk did 15 mil...th...
You exist only to do your burst window
half rain
You exist only to do your burst window
kek
zenith marlin
imagine mortal strike dealing consistent dmg
torpid roost
no no it's damage range is fine
zenith marlin
instead the 10k - 250k range RNG
onyx vale
what are you talking about, unholy used 2 handers in cataclysm mop and wod
zenith marlin
than they die in a GCD
torpid roost
"haha this warrior does no.... how are you dead"
hot solstice
btw got hit 220k by ele blast elem sham version(glad it didnt overload though i would be dead)
onyx vale
be grateful it wasn't a pre nerf enh
zenith marlin
imagine reflecting that
onyx vale
that 220K would have been a 300k
hot solstice
be grateful it wasn't a pre nerf enh
it was elemental shaman
onyx vale
torpid roost
RIght
onyx vale
i know, that's the fun part
torpid roost
be glad it wasn't
thick reef
"What is my purpose"
"You burst window then tickle the enemy"
"Oh my god"
brazen rock
oh you let ele freecast for 2 globals?
gg
meanwhile they rail instant casts at you all game for 40k dps np
torpid roost
take away the damage boost to sharpen blade, make it undodgeable unparryable and ignore armor instead
trollface
hot solstice
here is another one: parry+earthen on full hp rogs vendetta+bs kidney still...still dead to dots+dc spaminn damage...guess I am jsut bad
torpid roost
maybe even bypass shields
onyx vale
they stand in the middle of the arena with their wizard cleave doing pve
thick reef
Just give warriors ignore pain.
Done and done.
torpid roost
indeed
hot solstice
plate should feel like plate
onyx vale
its not plate that doesnt feel like plate
torpid roost
DK still does
hot solstice
all the rets can blame how squshy they r but compared to arms their damage isnt reduced by armor
torpid roost
"I go into battle with enchanted toilet paper"
thick reef
We're the blademaster fantasy, minus the windwalk and mirror image.
torpid roost
"anyway I'm fucking immortal"
onyx vale
when I catch the little warlock fucker they should die in a mortal strike
torpid roost
^us applying overpower to get a MS over 20k
thick reef
Its certainly poorly named
hot solstice
I feel like condemn animation makes execute delayed
torpid roost
can't believe it's getting fucking nerfed, lmfao
thick reef
it doesnt
onyx vale
most of all it has nothing to do with the real spell named overpower
no auto crit, no stack on dodge, no half gcd
why is that?
cuz the overpower we got in bfa is just colossus smash
torpid roost
people bitched more than the warrior community on the official forums
onyx vale
but shit
torpid roost
I appreciated the high APM arms
onyx vale
because some genius at blizzard thought off gcd spells were bad for the game
so we got recklessness removed and cs replaced it
torpid roost
off GCD spells are good and fuck anyone who disagrees
lean burrow
because some genius at blizzard thought off gcd spells were bad for the game
but it is bad
hot solstice
Just hope to see some nerf train after holidays
onyx vale
and in turn whatever that abomination they call overpower replaced cs
onyx vale
and now we get the only burst in the game that gets parried by fucking bosses
hot solstice
nah...u just need that 2set
onyx vale
I still believe warrior players are the only ones dumb enough to accept such a change
if tomorrow they removed paladin wings and said " judgement is your burst now, also it has 45 sec cd "
paladins would burn blizzard's hq
arms just rolled with it cuz their brains are small
torpid roost
we bitched, we made good arguments against it
we just didn't do it on the forums
we probably should go shit up the forums
pure hornet
What are the highest burst classes in arena?
torpid roost
start off reasonable and well reasoned
onyx vale
a good old zugging
torpid roost
then get as toxic as they make us
onyx vale
don't be toxic, they won't listen to toxic people
it's too late for any change anyway
cs is our burst now
despite it not being designed to be a burst
torpid roost
anything can be undone
lean mason
They won’t listen to toxic people because blizzard is already toxic
pure hornet
Cs?
onyx vale
colossus smash
torpid roost
non warrior spy detected
pure hornet
Isnt cs prot?
onyx vale
no, cs was the fun part about arms
hot solstice
ahahah just 150k mortal+60kwarbringer+90k spear rog ....globaled
pure hornet
1 hou ntill new year here
torpid roost
you know what should be prot? and not arms? Rend.
just roll that shit into deep wounds
GIVE IT UP
REND IS BAD
onyx vale
don't remove even more buttons from arms
torpid roost
and you have to make it retardedly OP to make it "good"
onyx vale
we are going to end up in wod at this rate
torpid roost
and that doesn't make it "good" just mandatory
onyx vale
but even wod had rend
lean mason
I gotta play arms one of these days to understand the hype around it
Or at least know what the skills called
hot solstice
who said PROT?
onyx vale
the hype is the stupid damage after 5 pve buffs
torpid roost
OP, EP, CS, MS
onyx vale
not very interesting or healthy for the spec
torpid roost
yeah nah
lean mason
I only know parry and that’s it
torpid roost
too much setup then too much burst if we actually get to do it
hot solstice
damn with this hp pools this exp could be second MOP
onyx vale
won't be as good as mop gameplay wise but it has mythic+
mop with mythic+, that would be the greatest invention of blizzard
I could ruin my life a second time with something like that
undone pumice
arms just rolled with it cuz their brains are small
why think if can swing big stick
hot solstice
80k slams on 550k hp mop was considered a huge number
torpid roost
well, for a filler that's pretty fucking strong
torpid roost
still on my necrotic kick
hot solstice
well, for a filler that's pretty fucking strong
in mop it wasnt filler
it was second strongest ability
torpid roost
I PVE'd during MoP mostly
undone pumice
mop peculiar to say the least
brazen rock
80k slams on 550k hp mop was considered a huge number
the ele i played with regularly crit lava bursts for 120-140k
hot solstice
300K off gcd heroic strike on 400K hp
nah they fixed it
brazen rock
with surge + double mast procs, 500k in essentially 1 global wasn't that rare.
torpid roost
they fixed that pretty quick but that was definitely a thing
onyx vale
yes but i'm not sure 80k was considered big number
torpid roost
I don't recall the numbers
hot solstice
old enha windstrike was beast
torpid roost
so many buffs, nerfs, stat crunches later
brazen rock
played "peel for ele" the entire season and got glad basically waiting for ele to casino someone 100-0
torpid roost
I was stormbolting for millions in PVE but that's not relevant
onyx vale
I remember sub rogues globaling people
with their fucking shadow dance
and good old shamans one shotting people too
torpid roost
M Night Shamanagain - "I just hit you for 500k in a single cast, what a tweeeest"
onyx vale
double chaos wave too, but that wasn't for long
GIVE ME BACK DEMO AND MOP ARMS BLIZZARD
brazen rock
M Night Shamanagain - "I just hit you for 500k in a single cast, what a tweeeest...
bro it was the best sight
youd just be playing the game as normal
and suddenly someone on the enemy team would die
my shaman would start giggling like a retard
rating go brrrr
hot solstice
do balance druids have cheese?
onyx vale
chickens do not produce cheese
hot solstice
just faced one dude eradicated me and my sham in 1 rott beam
gentle horizon
torpid roost
so I win 2/6 games in solo shuffle, in the dumpster ratings bracket
I lose 55 rating
I win 4/6, I gain 8
what the fuck
fickle forge
what the fuck
MMR
undone pumice
me 2k, ret 2.1k, druid 1.8k, ww 2.2k, and ele 1.9k
torpid roost
how low can my solo fucking shuffle mmr be
undone pumice
somehow that fucked it up so hard that i get +6 going 2/6