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craggy socket
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1700 as arms!!

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LFG! Most fun ive had pvp all xpac, mabye I should be a warrior main 😄

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Dont listen to manof he's an angry troll

mystic barn
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I wanna listen to less of you with mage

undone pumice
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no im an angry pin maker

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and troll

craggy socket
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Sounds like you two would make a good couple

mystic barn
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bro he’s a kid

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What’s wrong with u

craggy socket
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man I love that my picture triggers so many ppl in here

undone pumice
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no its that youre a mage player called fucking portal pimp

craggy socket
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awww little baby still upset

undone pumice
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we are historic enemies

craggy socket
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Bro I love warriors

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as a mage I come in peace so back off

mystic barn
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why are you bullying a little kid

craggy socket
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Is this your first day on the internet

undone pumice
wispy cedar
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qcp is a PEDOPHILE

long ridge
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what am i doing wrong

tame raptor
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whats the best arms war pvp build for 3s?

undone pumice
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pins

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@tame raptor pins

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has 3good build

thick reef
tame raptor
long ridge
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idk compare it to this from pins BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSSkQIpUSSAAAAAJEJJQCQENkkEgiEhEgkEJAAAAAAAAkQJJhAA

uneven turret
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Where

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Why is battle trance bad

full quiver
undone pumice
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i would rather use enduring rage

mystic barn
worthy fern
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@uneven turret in name plate settings

lapis timber
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it worked

full quiver
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OP

cinder thorn
undone pumice
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u know how on chess.com when u finish a game u get analysis of blunders, missed wins, mistake, they should do that for solo shuffle, 3 fully dr'd stuns, 15 abilities wasted into defensives

fair tide
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anyone running rend in their build w/ haste stacked?

open glacier
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we're really struggling to increase our rating at 17xx as hpally-arms, DHs are a problem RN, arent they a bit overtuned?

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I mean, the dmg is crazy

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and they have ALL the tools

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and we're usually at 2k1-2k4

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also locks and their healing, wtf

vocal frigate
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Is there a purpose to upgrading PVP gear? The ilvl increase in PVP doesn't change.

full sonnet
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they are

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absolute dogshit design

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imagine if die by the sword had 1min cd, auto procs, and you had 20% leech on top of that all the time 🧂 and you also have darkness, 3 stuns and an instant sap, on top of (one of the) highest consitant dmg and gimicky burst

full sonnet
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you can get some ok pieces early on

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i think for Arms, pvp trinket is bis-ish for PVE st content

full sonnet
fair tide
full sonnet
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yeah

clear sparrow
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arms > fury?

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i dont play warrior but i see so many arms rn

full sonnet
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arms is nice, yeah

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fury got hit hard by nerfs to slaughterhouse

clear sparrow
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with healer comps i assum?

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good

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😂

long ridge
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I think he plays both

full sonnet
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last time i was checking him he had like 20 videos in a row with fury

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only just recently people started checking out arms cuz they realized how garbage of a spec and playstyle fury is

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😄

long ridge
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He says fury might be ahead right now but arms will likely be better

full sonnet
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10.0.5 arms fotm, mark my words

long ridge
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In my experience arms is too squishy

sharp meteor
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potentially it depends on how a lot of things shift around

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bucnh of changes soon i think

clear sparrow
sharp meteor
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mostly concerned that rdruid gets kneecapped

full sonnet
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you can do healer or a ret pala

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but probably better off with a healer

full sonnet
sharp meteor
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rdruid legs blown off arms just melts into everything woo

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maybe q with disc and try to win by second avatar

long ridge
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Are you talking about 2s because yes arms is fine there

open glacier
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is hpally that shit in 2s?

sharp meteor
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yes

full sonnet
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its harder in this meta

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cuz you have so much consistant dmg

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cooldowns mean nothing

sharp meteor
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ya just perma melting

full sonnet
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holy is nice when its all about cds trading

sharp meteor
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too many hose of dmg specs

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hpal just going bald

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cos team dead

full sonnet
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although maybe with something like spriest

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Holy is getting a lot of love in 10.0.5 too

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i'm honestly considering swapping to it

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from arms

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20 second wings

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how neat is that

fair tide
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their getting beefy

full sonnet
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that dummy or pvp?

fair tide
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pvp dummy

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been waiting for shuffle queue for like 30 mins, got nothing better to do

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just fucking around w/ stats

full sonnet
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its actually pretty fun

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to try to stack your mortal strike dmg

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as high as possible

fair tide
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that's what im doing

full sonnet
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same

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xd

fair tide
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cs-op-op-sb-ms

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big dmg

full sonnet
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man the way skullsplitter applies dmg is so fun to see sometimes

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i like how it doesnt just proc the dmg but speeds it up by like 1000%, it looks like HP is actually dropping down instead of just disappearing lol

fair tide
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yeah, I'm going to try that build out

full sonnet
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i think this might be the easiest build to hit 2000s in shuffles

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you get more survi because of dots, and its harder to counter if people dont keep track of your colosus smash

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you get 25 sec burst windows

lean mason
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Level 60 PvP been a nightmare

craggy socket
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Holy Paladin gonna be viable?

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Bc it’s awful atm

lean mason
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Getting treated like a side character

fair tide
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jfc im starting to hate shuffle

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just had a mw purposly throw the games

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would just run into the team and just sit and not cast

plucky schooner
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Hey guys, how do you deal with BM hunters in arena? The pets just constantly out dmg the shit out of my team

clear sparrow
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fear them

lean mason
fair tide
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like why am I dealing w/ this shit past 1800?

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why is it so fucking hard to climb this ladder?

frank knoll
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I won’t play shuffle until they give you credit for the rounds you complete and do something to incentivize healers

sharp meteor
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That's reasonable.

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20-30 minute queue, 15 minutes, go positive and the healer that's losing leaves.

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+400 honor

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cringe

open glacier
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what is our best 2s healer?

sharp meteor
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legit waste of time

sharp meteor
coral axle
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Ppl gonna be like 100 ilevels higher than you

sharp meteor
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dude i went into bgs on my duelist sl geared chars and legit

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get like 50 kills a game

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x4 peoples health

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can't be scratched

coral axle
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Yeah my DH was legit i170 when I hit 60

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Duelist gear must be at least 270

sharp meteor
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314 or something i thought but

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you'd just utterly decimate people

lean mason
coral axle
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Yeah some dudes in there are gonna have literally 4 times ur stats with that

lean mason
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Then some mage came out of no where and just melt my ass faster then a slip n slide

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Like god damn

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Ye honestly after 3 games in rbgs I gave in and bought the expansion

sharp meteor
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i would put a single corruption on somebody

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and it did damage equal to like 2x their health pool

coral axle
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Love that

sharp meteor
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raid boss roleplay

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60-61 is like 2 bgs tho but it's a fun couple of bgs

craggy socket
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I wouldn’t expect any changes til next Friday

dark sparrow
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Can’t you buy like pre 70 green gear for pvp?

pseudo violet
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how come there are so many iron dwarf pvp warriors?

thick reef
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its bis for pvp

torpid roost
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Racial is nuts

pseudo violet
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ill have to take a look at it again.

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thank you very much!

torpid roost
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Fireblood is like mega trinket

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Assass rogues targeting you = free win

pseudo violet
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i been slowing getting into pvp failed at rogue so im trying warrior. feel alot more comfortablef orsure

gentle horizon
pseudo violet
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what is that?

coral axle
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Honestly I don't understand how DID isn't seriously OP, like it seems so much better than the gnome racial it's not even close

gentle horizon
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list of specs and how they do in 2400+ solo shuffle

coral axle
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Warrior overnerfed smh

fair tide
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anyone liking blademasters torment?

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It feels nice into a melee cleave

sharp meteor
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Rip a line of dots off while on stun dr and just

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turn around and clobber somebody

pseudo violet
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is there a decent alliance pvp serevr i can join to find a guild?

coral axle
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Stormrage alliance seems to be poppin

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Although I think guilds are cross-realm now idk how it works

coral axle
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Alright word lmao

undone pumice
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trinket sin's big kidney ehile deathmarked

coral axle
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I picked the right race I guess

undone pumice
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+2k str

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pop badge

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get lucky sophic proc

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5k str

stuck karma
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I wanna reroll it, but i cba doing the achivement to unlock it

undone pumice
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clobber him

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i wanna reroll it but cba to be alli

coral axle
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Ahhhh yep I havent had a chance to fireblood vs a sins burst yet, really want to do that immediately

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Get to see the fabled 200k MS

undone pumice
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fabled 300k ms

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devotion proc, badge, fireblood, full burst BOOM

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unironical 1 shot

dark sparrow
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I swapped my dk to dark iron like 2 days before the dk nerfs and every time he just stares at me while I scroll past him to another char now

undone pumice
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lmao

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just reroll unholy

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fuck frodt

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unholy is like top 3 melee

dark sparrow
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Doing feral right now, didn’t have the time yet to get going on other characters

undone pumice
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up there with feral and dh imo

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arms is like 5th best and sin 4th

torpid roost
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Lot less finesse required

dark sparrow
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Just got my 2set for feral out of vault, so I can probably chill more on that and start conq capping dk

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But I also like arms seeing the nuclear dam MS

undone pumice
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what is even good on hordeexceptorc

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maybe cows?

dark sparrow
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Troll is okay for some classes tbh

brazen rock
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Feral losing alot of quality of life in 10.0.5

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Btw.

dark sparrow
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Yea I saw that, hella sad

brazen rock
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Picking between moonfire and frenzy is stupid

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No ranged CP generation is giga nerf

dark sparrow
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Class tree was fucked already and now they fuck them even more

undone pumice
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who cares about the furries

brazen rock
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Druid general class tree is a joke

undone pumice
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let them die

dark sparrow
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Also the fact you need to waste so much points to get clone is a joke

thick reef
brazen rock
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I do, feral is tons of fun to play and gets to be viable for a month every expac before retards complain

undone pumice
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feral is kinda ridonk strong

dark sparrow
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But tbh I don’t think it’s that bad, tony isn’t even playing moonfire right now

thick reef
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Its worse when you realize that smoe of those classes benefit MAJORLY from set bonus.

DH is even stronger with the set

undone pumice
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buff everyone to feral level or nerf feral unholy dh sin

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1st would be perferable

coral axle
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The arms set is pretty sick at least right?

dark sparrow
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Unholy feels hella weird tho, they buffed their dmg but they destroyed abomb limb and deathstrike so your basically a dmg bot

coral axle
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Fury set has gotta be one of the worst if not THE worst tho right??

undone pumice
dark sparrow
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I heard monk set is also kinda cracked

coral axle
undone pumice
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idk

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crit is good stat

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i like stacking crit a lot

coral axle
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The preservation 4 set is fucking crazy

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Ppl aren't gonna like that one bit

thick reef
undone pumice
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wtf dk set looks like it will SLAP

dark sparrow
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Frost one? Yea it slaps

undone pumice
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feral set looks shiddy

lean mason
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No cap

undone pumice
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arms tier is just like a chunk of extra dmg wtf

lean mason
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Actually. What does fury set have?

undone pumice
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sin 4pc looks v strong

undone pumice
thick reef
coral axle
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It makes sudden death proc more

lean mason
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Oh

thick reef
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if we had Condemn it would be good

undone pumice
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2-Set - Warrior Fury Set 2pc - Execute's chance to critically strike increased by 10%.
4-Set - Warrior Fury Set 4pc - Sudden Death’s chance to reset the cooldown of Execute and make it usable on any target, regardless of health, is greatly increased.

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XD

thick reef
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Yeah warrior is gonna fall behind more once the catalyst comes

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but they don't like us fucking apes

coral axle
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If execute wasn't doing less damage than bloodthirst it would be good

undone pumice
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arms is going to rise up even further

thick reef
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Arms is good, but its not that amazing. Compared to other classes set bonuses.

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yeah, I'm about to switch to armussy

coral axle
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Arms getting buffs in a few weeks too right?

undone pumice
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ret is literally just flat dmg lmao

coral axle
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Like two more talent points or something

undone pumice
thick reef
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Paladin as a whole is already garbage tier

undone pumice
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ye

coral axle
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Yeah worst class no contest

thick reef
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BUt those above warrior all seem to be getting strong set bonuses.

lean mason
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Paladins are bad now?

thick reef
undone pumice
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outlaw is gonna make the dispatch build even stronger

coral axle
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Holy sucks ret mostly sucks

lean mason
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What happen? They used to be hella annoying in legion

undone pumice
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sucks to be a pirate

thick reef
lean mason
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True but at the same time damn

undone pumice
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ret was strong af in sl

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dont think they wanted that for this exp

lean mason
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That make sense

undone pumice
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boomy tier looks stronk ngl

thick reef
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Honestly

undone pumice
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4-Set - Touch the Cosmos - When you enter Eclipse, your next Starsurge or Starfall costs no Astral Power and deals 35% increased damage.

coral axle
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I only played SL for like two weeks but I remember them globaling people from 30y away

thick reef
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The current power ranking in DF seems to all just stem from really poorly thought out and inconsistent talent trees.

undone pumice
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retwarr in sl

thick reef
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Some classes got everything, some classes got jack shit.

undone pumice
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hoj + bolt ppl

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healer does something to third guy

thick reef
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warrior's warrior tree is, kinda dull and at best, ok.

undone pumice
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global someone

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ret cant die cuz s2 arms was immortal and offered 123917371737 utility buttons to ret

thick reef
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Rogue, and any class with a healer spec except paladin have busted ass talent trees

undone pumice
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Penance increases the strength of your next Power Word: Shield by 60%

pseudo violet
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so your telling me nmot to play warrior

undone pumice
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disc 4pc wtf

pseudo violet
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😦

undone pumice
thick reef
undone pumice
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arms is pretty strong

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actually really strong ngl

thick reef
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When I say strong I mean those classes that we currently consider busted.

undone pumice
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arms is almost bused

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it is just paper as well

thick reef
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WW, Sin, ShP, Demo, DH, apparently Elem

lean burrow
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or bussy

undone pumice
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bussin bussin fr fr no cap on a stack

lean burrow
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Bused

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spec

undone pumice
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busted ahh spec

lean burrow
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no, Based

undone pumice
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true

coral axle
vocal frigate
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imo pet classes need to get removed

thick reef
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I do wonder if the arms buff will help or hinder. I feel their burst will be the best outright, but will be so high that blizz will pvp nerf it. And their defense isnt being touched at all which is their shining problem

undone pumice
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blizzard try to fix problems challenge

thick reef
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The buffs are exclusively in that area they already excel, so I wonder at how useful they'll really be.

coral axle
thick reef
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IF anything it just shifts them more towards being a primary target since they'll still be made of paper

undone pumice
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i don tthink solo has anything to do with skill

thick reef
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There is room in shuffle for skill, its just more luck than skill in many cases.

undone pumice
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im almost 2k in solo and 1400 in 3s

coral axle
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It's just like solo queue in any other game really, although even more so because SS has nothing to do with communication and actual 3s does

lean mason
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10% luck 20% skill

thick reef
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Like if anyone is aware of the 40k trope: Distraction Carnifex.
A big target that is just there to soak attention and die.

Arms with the buff is still made of paper but has higher burst. So now its a distraction carnifex. The first target to be killed.

pseudo violet
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you guys are awesome. thank you very much!

undone pumice
thick reef
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Unless you're a tank, then get out

lean mason
undone pumice
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Demonbolt has a chance to make your next Hand of Gul'dan instant and deal 150% increased damage.

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wtf is demo 4pc

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delete this

thick reef
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I know its fucking nuts.

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Arms set is, fine. Great even.

The best pvp classes set bonuses are broken.

undone pumice
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ye arms 4pc bsted

thick reef
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Hell look at the hunter one, imagine that with their pve bow that increases their haste by a massive level

undone pumice
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dont remind me that hunters exist

thick reef
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  1. Set Bonus: Arcane Shot & Multi Shot critical hits cause your next Aimed Shot to cast 50% faster and cause the target to bleed for 20% of damage dealt over 6 seconds.
    (4) Set Bonus: Ranged auto-attacks have a 10% chance to give your next Arcane Shot or Multi Shot 100% chance to critically hit.
undone pumice
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100% chance to crit

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XD?

thick reef
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They'll be shitting out crit strikes that also let them near auto cast aimed shots that will be doing 20% more damage

undone pumice
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imagine getting domed by an unironical pveing hunter in 3 aimed shots lmao

thick reef
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WW makes fist of fury a defensive cooldown

undone pumice
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alrdy is

thick reef
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A stronger one

undone pumice
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zamn

lean mason
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Fist of fury a defensive cool down. Jesus

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That’s honestly wild

thick reef
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Priest getting a flat haste bonus on top of much stronger burst

undone pumice
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i mean its literally parry + gigaslow + big dmg

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kinda aids ability

oak heath
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I would just like shadow to not have every school of CC

undone pumice
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the infamous shadow disarm

thick reef
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To bad, they now have stronger burst attack, eat a dick

oak heath
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Shadow had a disarm on psychic horror right?

undone pumice
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used to

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now its just a stun

thick reef
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I like how the paladin bonus gives them our overpower -> mortal strike interaction but better

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(2) Set Bonus: Blade of Justice and Judgment grant Crusader’s Strength, increasing the damage of your next Crusader’s Strike or Consecreate by 100%, stacking up to 2.
(4) Set Bonus: When you consume Crusader’s Strength, the damage of your next Blade of Justice is increased by 50% for each stack of Crusader’s Strength consumed.

undone pumice
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now that orc sucks

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time for rise of the hmt?

thick reef
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Still holding on to hope that maybe blizz at least changes the fury one so they can actually have a set bonus

lean burrow
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crusader strike is like slam, but holy ||not even holy lul||

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feels bad to press

craggy socket
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Just got gladius over gladius ex

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why cant I click on frames to target?

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is that s setting or something

sharp meteor
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broken addon that isn't updated

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gladiusex better anyways

vocal frigate
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Any good macro that autoswaps wrecking/shattering throw?

covert kernel
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didn't see it pinned, is there a list of ideal enchants?

thick reef
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arms pvp rotation?

full axle
undone pumice
undone pumice
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always movespeed where u can, chest waking stas, leg fierce armor kit

safe jewel
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Aren't the upcoming Arms buffs mostly damage related? Don't think that's what is causing the biggest issues for the spec in pvp

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Although I am sick and tired of DHs topping damage charts every game, but

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That is another issue

undone pumice
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btw i dont have any character left for the pin so to add anything i'd have to make a second one

craggy socket
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Why isnt gladius or sarena updated?

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gladius ex is just the only one?

vocal frigate
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Generally, they don't get paid to make addons.

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It's entirely voluntary.

zenith marlin
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I just joined Dreamgrove cuz I have a guardian tauren druid

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any1 got any messages?

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just an alt

sharp meteor
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and maintained for free

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and sometimes authors quit

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or just stop caring

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basically ur signing up to get harassed by nerds whenever u don't update their addon (for free)

lean mason
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Is it free?

vocal frigate
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...yes?

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When's the last time you heard of anyone buying an addon.

lean mason
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Never I was just playing on the fact he said free on a addon

coral axle
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Didn't people try and put addons behind a pay wall for a while? Or was that just a skyrim thing

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Thought wow dealt with that too

lean mason
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That was a Skyrim thing I remember

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For like some sort of mod

zenith marlin
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the druid discord said I have nice arms

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they gave no tips on how to kill restos

lean mason
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They keeping secrets

zenith marlin
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they seem to enjoy japanese culture more than us there

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as per their profile pictures

river jungle
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how hard does frozen devotion hit as arms

lean mason
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Druids?

zenith marlin
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the druid discord talks pve in their pvp channel

lean mason
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Monks yea I understand because monks are culture people

zenith marlin
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I am an investigative warrioe now

lean mason
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But druids?

zenith marlin
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Oh my there is a DH discord as well

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I don't think I can keep myself composed there

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Perhaps I will disguise as a tank DH

vocal frigate
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I don't recall if they themselves had members as the original publishers or if they simply offered to buy the "rights" from their owners to then rename them.

zenith marlin
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the restos told me that they are abit like mistweavers and switches hurt them

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maybe this is trickery

sharp meteor
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rdruids can prep for swaps tho

brazen rock
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You won't kill anyone that a rdruid is pve healing

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Gotta swap + cc on druid

smoky anchor
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I switched back to virgin fury spec cause I was tired of getting focused in solo shuffle as arms, feels good

smoky anchor
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Oh it was mythic dungeon tools

coral axle
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sounds right, honestly I wouldnt mind a one time payment for some of the really big effort mods like elvui

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but it would suck to have stuff thats actually really important locked behind a paywall

smoky anchor
smoky anchor
coral axle
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yeah looks like it's just a donation thing

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think I will then

muted surge
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They aren’t allowed todo that

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MDT tried it and failed

glass roost
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How huge is the 424 weapon from 411

muted surge
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Around 13 ilvl

glass roost
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Lol

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As far as output goes

full axle
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It makes arms feel usable

tribal wedge
lean mason
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Man I’m not looking forward to do sweaty palms PvP

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But I gotta get gains one way or another

brazen rock
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fury felt good to abut 1900 mmr

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then i felt like i was trolling my team

pseudo violet
full axle
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Arms feel amazing in 2s with unholy dk

nimble jasper
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at low mmr probably

brazen rock
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avg 2.1 dh/sp/assa are fucking retards anyways

brazen rock
nimble jasper
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assa lowkey apparently not that common

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in shuffle

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imo its better in 3s

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and 2s with a real team

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dh is very plug and play friendly

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into anything

tribal wedge
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bait out eva or blur in shuffle is the easiest thing ever

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dh and rogue are so unsecure

nimble jasper
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ehh imo your trinket

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is worth more than evasion on rogue

lean mason
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I’m sort of confident that I’ll do fine in 3s as a fury but 2s I’m going to int like a mother fluffer

tribal wedge
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trinket won't save you from my 100k exec

nimble jasper
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yes it will

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cuz most kill setups

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are in stuns

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if they’re half decent they typically pair trink

#

with cloak vanish or evasion

tribal wedge
#

we talk about 2k mmr, assa aren't half decent

nimble jasper
#

would be inclined to disagree

#

but i got to 2.3 mmr

#

before duelist cr

tribal wedge
#

honestly, i don't think i queued with a good rogue already

nimble jasper
#

i also did 2s earlier and went like 12-2 at that mmr so maybe you’re right

#

every mirror was a stomp

#

got bored picked up some rando rdruid in lfg

#

only game we lost was some fucking ele hitting eleblast

#

for 300k in 1 gcd

nimble jasper
brazen rock
#

lul

nimble jasper
#

or dont q shuffle

brazen rock
#

wanna carry my rdruid next week mich

nimble jasper
#

its a shit rog bracket

#

i killed some rdruid earlier

#

through all his cds

#

cackled

brazen rock
#

im washed up as fuck but used to be glad in mop

#

kek

nimble jasper
#

its a boring bracket

#

tbh

#

i just needed a bit of honor for vault

#

and i had 15mins before i had to be a social human

#

with friends

#

“nerfed” spec btw

lean mason
#

Damn. Feels nerfed man

#

Bright side is that the only direction fury is going is up right?

#

Right?

nimble jasper
#

no idea

#

arms more fun

lean mason
#

Double damn

tribal wedge
#

they seems to want arms >> so i won't bet on fury

#

soon everyone gonna have tier set, and arm set >>>>>> furry, more like everyone set >>>> fury, so passive nerf

wooden grove
#

Wild how far fury has fallen

nimble jasper
#

fury is fine

lean mason
#

Don’t worry fury set is fiiiiiiiine~

nimble jasper
#

just boring playstyle

#

lower skillcap then dh

brazen rock
#

^

lean mason
#

Can’t argue with that again I can totally play this class half asleep and high as a kite

#

That being said. DH feels the same

brazen rock
#

fury just 10% worse in the next few weeks

nimble jasper
#

pov double r3 frozen devo dh

#

running at you

tribal wedge
nimble jasper
#

think its like

#

over 30k ticks

#

with double r3

brazen rock
#

id rather not, thanks

near delta
nimble jasper
#

dh on beta was peak comedy

#

i hunted a warlock for 250k

near delta
#

Mom's spaghetti but I'm keeping that lmao

nimble jasper
#

with demon soul buff

lean mason
near delta
#

Ayyy lol

nimble jasper
#

double r3 sophic devo must be fun

#

like 1800 more mainstat

cinder thorn
#

They really need to fix DH and Warlock

I can't believe how long blizz have let them be crazy for, are they blind or what

nimble jasper
#

why are you leaving out sp

#

spriest is a good 2 tiers above

#

every other dps rn

near delta
#

Ele feels quite strong as well atm

#

Been having a good time playing thunder

nimble jasper
#

dh was unironically fine in SL

#

like wouldnt say they were broken

near delta
#

Yeah they were kinda on the lower end after like mid s3

#

Have to be a God with predefensives to live after a certain point

near delta
#

I've literally sat them in a melee cleave and there's legit nothing to kick lmao

full quiver
#

😂

nimble jasper
#

hex

#

and stormkeeper

brazen rock
#

ele is insane rn

#

iv played some thunder and jesus christ

near delta
#

Yeah. Getting globalled by lava bursts at the same time tho lol

nimble jasper
#

i’ve been saying ele is s tier

#

but shaman players cry cuz they arent tanks like warlocks

near delta
#

They have little shields so they should be unkillable

#

That's how that works

lean mason
#

Ahh yes lava burst aka the one skill that make me realize that I need gear in level 60 pvp

nimble jasper
#

lvl60 pvp

#

in df

lean mason
#

I just hit that level today

#

Then I’m all like “bet let me see how’s bg in level 60-69.” Then I got melted

#

I only have like 161 ilvl

nimble jasper
#

thats

#

pretty low

near delta
#

Oh yeah thats gonna be rough

nimble jasper
#

s4 conquest gear was 311

#

in SL

lean mason
#

Ye. Im practically playing this game like it’s metal gear because I turn war mode on

#

Because I ain’t no bitch

nimble jasper
#

idk why you’d do bgs

#

always some fuckery pre max

lean mason
#

Yea I just recently discover that

#

That’s craaaaazy

nimble jasper
#

me awhile back on twinked char

#

when some dumbass male draenei warrior charges me

lean mason
#

I just don’t for the life of me understand that when I was in bg from 1-49 I was getting destroyed here and there

#

But as soon I hit 50-59 everything went hella smooth like I was doing super well

#

Now I’m back from getting my ass handed to me

nimble jasper
#

bgs are also

#

awful exp rate

shy geyser
#

Is this a bug or are solo shuffle rating based on spec? I switched arms and my rating is 0

dusk cargo
#

Rating is tied to spec

lean mason
shy geyser
#

oh crazy

nimble jasper
#

i stopped caring when i leveled a priest

#

and my swp penance took someone to 20%

lean mason
#

Oh Jesus

#

Lol

undone pumice
#

when do we get playable tuskarr and quillboar ong

lean burrow
#

right after playable gnolls, furbolgs and naga

sharp meteor
#

gib gnolls

near delta
#

I want to be snek

undone pumice
#

ok so weve heard enough about jmorph, how about imorph

lean burrow
#

imorph deez nuts

undone pumice
#

i morph says it can literally only change your character

#

hmmm

quaint bison
#

Thinking about lvling a healer so I can actually q

#

But then you see healers crying about always being in lobbies where everyones 300 cr under them

#

and getting flamed by the DH bc he hunted first global instead of bluring off mount keks

brazen rock
#

its miserable

#

you get auto matches and 0 cr for winning

#

dps are remedial turds

mild thunder
#

Yea I’ve heard from healers that 9/10 shuffles they end up 3-3 because one dps is always dogshit

#

And there’s next to nothing they can do about it

undone pumice
#

generally if one person is gigadog i end up 3-3 even as dps

thick reef
#

this is fine

brazen rock
#

ive carried 5-1s and 4-2s a few times

#

but healers deal with a retard dps every match pretty much

undone pumice
#

does your solo rating even mean anything? as in persnal skill ig cuz its random

brazen rock
#

eh sure

#

i think theres a big diff between a 1600 mmr war and a 2200 mmr war

#

still a meme bracket

undone pumice
#

everything is a meme bracket according to someone except 3s

brazen rock
#

it is though? look at class rep above 2k

#

its a joke

undone pumice
#

even then you could say 3s is a meme bracket cuz it still depends a fair bit on mates

#

and meta is always gonna have dumb class representation too ig or smth smart idk i dont think

thick reef
#

im stuck at 2k in shuffle with fury cause i suck and i swear half the time hit like a fucking wet noodle

undone pumice
#

im just perplexed at solo rating gains and losses

wheat canopy
#

im having same issue.

bronze dagger
#

is there an honor gear list for arms?

undone pumice
#

2/6 - 50
3/6 + 50

#

crit and haste@bronze dagger

#

easiest

bronze dagger
#

ty

wheat canopy
#

thats what i was gonna ask. what guides you going to for arms pvp

#

i gotta try something diffrent.

undone pumice
#

pins is pretty cool :D

bronze dagger
#

are one of the specs just better rn?

undone pumice
#

fury is easier esp at lower ratings but

#

not really ig

thick reef
#

both are mid for different reasons

undone pumice
#

arms slaps but is built like wet cardboard
fury slaps less but is built like a brick

wheat canopy
nimble jasper
#

vs dh

#

i swear asking the cleave class to cleave for free

thick reef
#

is that not what is just going to happen in a 4 mele ungona bonga

weak swallow
#

holy priest depressed he got outhealed by disc
gets called out for being bad
"rofl ez 0 rating"
lol 0 rating anyways cuz 3 - 3

#

proceeds to make me feel good when he leaves and loses 150cr

nimble jasper
#

idk

#

monk can go and dink healer

weak swallow
#

all i hear

#

in every solo shuffle

nimble jasper
#

still does a bit much but

weak swallow
#

is that

nimble jasper
#

spriest is the best spec

weak swallow
#

isnt the hunt spell reflectable

nimble jasper
#

and people dont talk about it enough

#

dont think so

mild thunder
weak swallow
#

spriest is a fucking kekmeme

nimble jasper
#

also any good dh will just

weak swallow
#

raid boss

#

dodge all their purple shit

nimble jasper
#

cancel hunt

weak swallow
#

force disperse

#

dead now

nimble jasper
#

ngl i was saying even sl s1

#

spriest would have been best wizard

#

if triune ward didnt exist

weak swallow
#

spriest ramps up dmg like every other ramp up class

#

apply dots / summon pets

#

go into burst mode

#

watch melt occur

nimble jasper
#

they’re just super gross rn

#

way more annoyed playing spriests than dhs

#

unless spriest is real shit

weak swallow
#

its a joke how easy they can get countered

#

i only get worried when nobody knows to spread out focus

#

and against demo lock spriest or affli spriest just let 1 or the other ramp up gg

#

dh needs to use blur

#

then its a matter of who can sustain longer

#

then again 100k crits on blade dance isnt fun to play against

brazen rock
#

spriest also giga fun to play

#

melee on you? void spike or w/e the ground aoe is, void volley, kekw pve mechs

weak swallow
#

the ground aoe that

#

you can dodge

#

like a raid mechanic

#

that fears you?

#

that moves slower than a dramatic moment from a tv show?

brazen rock
#

yes

#

still a random aoe effect

weak swallow
#

just

brazen rock
#

that they literally just sit in

weak swallow
#

look at the purple circle

brazen rock
#

yeah ok bud

weak swallow
#

i get hit like 1 / 5 times keksquad

#

so easy to dodge tf

brazen rock
#

=))

weak swallow
#

wait and its a channeling cast as well right

brazen rock
#

no

#

christ you dont even know how it works

weak swallow
#

its a 2 second aoe fear that re-applies if you keep getting hit

brazen rock
#

not even a fear

weak swallow
#

potato potato

#

works similarly

#

cant remember the actual name

brazen rock
#

yeah man death coil and fear

#

totally similar

weak swallow
#

at least i know the important part of moving out of the way (:

#

not getting hit like a noob

brazen rock
#

lol

weak swallow
#

by 8 of them

brazen rock
#

ok bro

#

anime pfp

weak swallow
#

LOL

#

sure bud

brazen rock
nimble jasper
#

they’re both stupid

#

demo as well but yeah

#

this is prob the strongest spriest has been in years tbh

weak swallow
#

its not bad

#

still dies after disperse

nimble jasper
#

dh is just idiotproof

#

to do max damage

weak swallow
#

2impossible5me to dodge

#

coming in like a dramatic entrance

brazen rock
#

are you ok?

#

im busy

nimble jasper
#

spriest skillcap is much higher than dh though

weak swallow
#

be busy

#

what the fuck are you responding for LMAO

#

who the fuck is talking to you'

nimble jasper
#

but its still the best wizard

brazen rock
#

cringe ass kid lmao

weak swallow
#

you are calling me kid you must be 16

brazen rock
#

must be bro

weak swallow
#

yeh bro

#

bud

#

thang

#

homie

#

dawg

brazen rock
#

look at you go

weak swallow
#

aren't you busy

weak swallow
#

any mage video, primarily frost is just a bunch of 1 shot compilations lmao

nimble jasper
#

ehh mage rn is not as bad surprisingly

#

demo though…

#

and ele

weak swallow
#

again demo is just ramp up

#

if you let them cast their demons then gg

nimble jasper
#

you cant really stop them from gaining resources

weak swallow
#

suck off a ramp up spec and they wont be able to do anything when you kick at the right time / cc

#

only survive off their healer

nimble jasper
#

and ele is just uhh

weak swallow
#

ele is also

brazen rock
#

outplayed clearly

weak swallow
#

ramp up

nimble jasper
#

yeah too bad ele doesnt hardcast shit

#

besides hex

#

and stormkeeper

weak swallow
#

i think you kick their fire ability

#

cant remember name since im not too familiar with all the classes just yet

nimble jasper
#

no you kick stormkeeper

brazen rock
#

they dont need to hardcast lava burst anymore

nimble jasper
#

or hex

brazen rock
#

they get billions of free procs from wave and flame shock

nimble jasper
#

idk demo is a funny spec

#

queue at lower mmr they dont do shit

#

higher you go its just…

weak swallow
#

cuz healer knows to keep them alive

#

the longer theyre in the game the worse for you

nimble jasper
#

nah

#

the lock is also just bad at lower mmrs

#

doesnt gate or port

weak swallow
#

tell that to their army of 4000 imps

nimble jasper
#

walls air

weak swallow
#

also demo will try to bait out charges before they teleport back

#

best to just intimi and then stay on top till they do so

#

tbh any lock afaik^

spice hornet
#

So tired of spriest/demo/dh

#

Every shuffle

weak swallow
#

demo and spriest just need to be split hard focused by both dps

#

cant focus on just 1 or the other

#

dh is aids if you let them cleave MW

#

so...dont

copper hare
#

xdx

spice hornet
#

Ret pumps

brazen rock
weak swallow
#

dayum

#

never played ret

copper hare
#

into 140k final reckoning lol

fair tide
#

it's like a special needs warrior

weak swallow
#

i mean

#

i know that much

#

they're a wheelchair

nimble jasper
#

dks are technically wheelchairs but

#

they compensate by

#

turning you into one too

weak swallow
#

LUL true

#

glad that immune poison counters their dots

thick reef
mild thunder
#

Dk is also a hell of a lot tankier than ret

#

At least into casters

nimble jasper
#

yeah

#

dhdk been a giant

#

wizard middlefinger

#

for the longest time

mild thunder
#

Ret still gets blown up by a sneeze

nimble jasper
#

esp if its a meta

#

where rsham is good w/ it

fair tide
#

50 min ss queue, mage rage quits first round after I smash him

#

fml

mild thunder
#

Doesn’t help that whenever priests are meta, pala becomes way harder to play

#

0.5s MD cast

#

The amount of times my bubble was pre-dispelled when I played ret was infuriating

nimble jasper
#

man pre md used to be

#

way more skill involved

weak swallow
nimble jasper
#

pre md insta get bubble

#

hpal dies to recheap

#

before his bubble global ends

weak swallow
#

funny thing

mild thunder
#

MD should have a way longer cool-down

weak swallow
#

he never pressed pi once the entire match

#

(:

mild thunder
#

Isn’t it like 30s with the talent?

nimble jasper
#

psure hpal also bugged and uhh

#

wog doesnt scale with pvp gear scaling

weak swallow
#

"rofl ez 0 cr" he said, but jokes on him im 3 - 3 that match cuz hes a dumbass

#

so hes just losing 150 cr for nothing

nimble jasper
#

half the hpriest players are just in shambles

#

they cant top someone in 1 serenity

mild thunder
#

You can still gain rating by going 3-3

weak swallow
#

at nearly 1900?

#

hm

nimble jasper
#

i got rating once

#

going 1/6

#

at over 2.1

mild thunder
#

It depends on the rating of the people you’re versing as well as your own

nimble jasper
#

mmr stronk

mild thunder
#

If you’re 1900 and versing people that are 2000+

#

Then yea you’re gonna gain rating by going 3-3

nimble jasper
#

yeah thats how mmr is

#

one time i got +150

#

cuz mmr was 300 above cr

lean burrow
mild thunder
#

I’m done with shuffle… playing every match on 250+ ms as an oce player is beyond tilting

#

It’s impossible to make plays

nimble jasper
#

oh lmao

lean burrow
#

I've read there's some bugs with radiant decree

nimble jasper
#

had an oce friend who said

#

he cant get q's at all

#

like man would wait 1hr 30

#

for a pop

copper hare
#

im straight

mild thunder
#

Doesn’t affect queue times at all

nimble jasper
#

does it not

lean burrow
lucid walrus
#

ya oce just sifts into NA

lean burrow
nimble jasper
#

even if you're on an oce server

mild thunder
#

Oce is cross regional

#

So you’ll almost always be in NA games

lucid walrus
#

frostmourne, barth, etc still get lumped into NA realms, that's just where their communities are

nimble jasper
#

oh thought it preferred to put you into oce games

mild thunder
#

It very, very slightly does

nimble jasper
#

guy was theorizing maybe thats why his queues are long

mild thunder
#

But it doesn’t really matter for shuffle

nimble jasper
#

or maybe he just plays

#

at NA unfriendly times

#

idk

lucid walrus
#

that's more likely imo

mild thunder
#

For 2s/3s it’ll try and put us with oce players

#

Shuffle is the worst though cause it’s so frustrating trying to carry games with high ping

nimble jasper
#

idk how prev does it

#

playing spriest at awc levels

#

sometimes getting eu server base

mild thunder
#

The amount of fucking times I’ve reflected shit on time and get screwed over… or not intervened the kidney because of the delay, or you can’t hit a target on top of you because of the split second they moved to the left etc

#

It’s not fun

lucid walrus
#

i've heard vpns can maybe help

nimble jasper
#

like man played what? spriest and ret in awc

#

from aus

mild thunder
lucid walrus
#

ah yeah?

mild thunder
#

Exitlag will bring your ping down by like 10ms if you’re lucky

lucid walrus
#

can't say it shocks me. made sense that having another point for your net to bounce to would only slow things down

sharp meteor
#

lel

mild thunder
#

The way they “work” is by attempting to reroute your connection to a more efficient route, but most games already use the most efficient routes

#

So yea, they’re just bait most of the time

sharp meteor
#

Yeah. keks It's like the people who spend tons of money on peripherals or hardware.

nimble jasper
#

gaming chairs

#

are bigger bait

#

imo

sharp meteor
#

500 dollar gaming chair. keks

mild thunder
#

You’re better off downloading more RAM online 😏

nimble jasper
#

go to a furniture store

sharp meteor
#

Feels like a plank with a pillow on it.

lucid walrus
#

"gamer"-branded stuff is a huge scam

nimble jasper
#

get a decent chair

lucid walrus
#

muh ergonomics bro

nimble jasper
#

i mean gaming pc is usually ok specs

#

just severely marked up

mild thunder
#

But get something genuinely good, not shitty “pro-gaming chairs”

nimble jasper
#

yeah but would rather get a decent chair from ikea or something

brazen rock
#

^^^^^^^^^^^

#

good chair > all

nimble jasper
#

not a branded gaming chair

lucid walrus
nimble jasper
#

i got one from microcenter cuz uhh

#

gpus didnt exist

#

when i needed an upgrade bad

#

to my whole rig

mild thunder
#

I’m lucky, got a grant from my wfh job to invest in a home office setup… just used it for a new desk and chair keks

nimble jasper
#

yeah whole point overall was uhh

#

a 500 dollar gaming chair is prob same quality

#

as a 100 or less chair from a normal store

#

peripherals cant comment on, had the same g600 from logitech mouse for 6 years

brazen rock
#

g600 best mouse

mild thunder
#

I was a turd, bought a Corsair scimitar a while back

nimble jasper
#

scimitar is decent imo

mild thunder
#

It’s a pretty good mouse though, haven’t ever had any issues with it

nimble jasper
#

just....fuck razer products

#

imo

mild thunder
#

Razer is the worst shit ever

#

So flimsy, so overpriced

nimble jasper
#

well i def think razer went harder

#

on "gamer" branding

#

than logitech or corsair come to think of it

mild thunder
#

Yea I remember swifty shilling razer in every single video back in the day haha

nimble jasper
#

i feel hes half the reason so many randos

#

have a razer mouse

mild thunder
#

Probably, I don’t really remember anyone else pushing it that hard

nimble jasper
#

yeah honestly

mild thunder
#

And outside of that, I’ve never met anyone that actually says “oh yea, I love my razer gear”

nimble jasper
#

its not something like fucking expressvpn/raid shadow legends

#

that pays almost every youtube creator

#

for a sponsor

weak swallow
#

you forgot manscaped and nordvpn

mild thunder
#

AFKArena okayge

weak swallow
mild thunder
#

I still have that stupid British guys rap in my head

nimble jasper
#

i dont know whats afkarena

#

or manscaped tbh

weak swallow
#

manscaped is uh

#

yeah

#

afkarena is something that came from hell itself

nimble jasper
#

maybe its a diff type of video creators

weak swallow
#

nah

mild thunder
#

This will tell you all you need to know

weak swallow
#

im not even gonna click that

#

im sure its gonna be

#

stuck in my head for years

nimble jasper
#

express/nordvpn pmuch sponsored like

#

any youtuber

mild thunder
#

Mans goes hard xeos

nimble jasper
#

with a half decent subscriber base

mild thunder
#

I don’t see nordvpn as much anymore

nimble jasper
#

yeah

mild thunder
#

There’s a new one I see a lot

nimble jasper
#

like I actually dont know any non wow player

#

with razer gear

mild thunder
#

Can’t remember the name

nimble jasper
#

feel corsair has always had a stronger grip

#

esp when it comes to keyboards

weak swallow
#

man i hope they revamp fury tree a bit by 10.1

#

this 2 button rotation is so lame

nimble jasper
#

alot of class trees are just

#

bad imo

#

talking about a few classes where options are just

#

super linear

weak swallow
#

it was meant for build diversity

#

but they still made x build better than y

#

🤦‍♂️

mild thunder
#

Warrior definitely has one of the worse spec trees

#

Arms and fury at least

nimble jasper
#

rogue class tree is awful

weak swallow
#

arms at least getting sucked off

nimble jasper
#

the class is strong but...

#

the thing has like

weak swallow
#

10.0.5 is giving them even more love

nimble jasper
#

a non existent number of branches