pvp

[viscid bluff]

I don't think I'm that good

[sharp meteor]

although lobby where u get 0 parry value gonna feel rough

like all wizards plus a rogue

[coral axle]

then get better 😄 winning more is the only thing u have control over as far as rating goes

[hazy isle]

Ru always kill target

[brazen rock]

sharpen is disgusting with 20% base dampening

[sharp meteor]

ya

dmg sticks hard

BIG meaty swings

[viscid bluff]

[coral axle]

just go fury and learn ur dps rotation(press bt), target whoever ur ally dps is and train them nonstop the whole game

you will get 1800

higher than that u might need to learn how to play actually

[river river]

Do I put Sophic Devotion on both my weapons?

[coarse portal]

Aighto peeps, is Set Piece worth if I get it from GV for PVP?

https://gyazo.com/2c761b6139ff7503d791703e0297ee9e

[thick reef]

@stoic swallow set your loot spec to arms next time

[coral axle]

does that actually work? I thought loot spec was trinket only now

seems weird for blizz to assign a secondary stat priority to specs

[sharp meteor]

It's weapons.

It's not secondaries.

[coral axle]

OH

the one hander

damn lmao

good to know

[sharp meteor]

Arms is to avoid getting meme 1h as Fury for instance.

[coral axle]

ahhhh yep makes sense thanks for the heads up

[thick reef]

Ye you should never be fury spec ever

[stoic swallow]

@thick reef I'm lol its not me who bought the polearm

[thick reef]

For loot

[thick reef]

What's wrong with the polearm?

[coral axle]

I forget that 1h fury is even a thing ngl, trolling myself with this one

[stoic swallow]

this, i think you meant unbeared?

[thick reef]

I did whoops.
But what's wrong with polearm? XD

[stoic swallow]

nothing idk

[sharp meteor]

Nothing.

I think that crit is better for arms but it's definitely not worth respeccing or buying a diff wep just because of a single secondary.

[coral axle]

the polearm is fine I just already bought it with conquest

so its useless for my arms spec

[thick reef]

world server rip?

[stoic swallow]

damn furry just onehsots in like what feels 10 sec

[brazen rock]

10 seconds is a long time.

[stoic swallow]

as Arms i do need to build up ops

[stoic swallow]

maybe even less

[obsidian loom]

for fury pvp

do i get 2nd weapon? i got one from vault

[brazen rock]

if you already have drakebreaker, no

imo

[obsidian loom]

i dont

i accidently bought the wrists dont judge me

im thinking i go chest instead

[brazen rock]

then yes

[shy geyser]

Oh no guys im torn... 395 set chest, or 405 socketed pvp neck

[brazen rock]

take wep

huge stats

[obsidian loom]

k thanks

[thick reef]

Not a bad choice. You should avoid the tier slots imo. Belt and wrists as early buys makes sense to me

[obsidian loom]

drakebreaker buffs dont work in arena right?

[thick reef]

Correct

They're just for pvp ilvl

[obsidian loom]

why avoid tier?

seems like chest or 2nd weap give the same stat boost

maybe not with OH bonuses to fury hmmmm

\

its just a straight 5% tho

[brazen rock]

fury tier is ass

literally 3%

[obsidian loom]

oh i see what you mean

yeah fuck fury tier

[thick reef]

I mean specifically for spending conquest

Fury tier may be shit but it's still a boost

[nova wadi]

someone got a whrecking throw / shattering throw macro?

[obsidian loom]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:64382]Shattering Throw; [known:384110]Wrecking Throw

[nova wadi]

ty daddy

[obsidian loom]

😉

[thick reef]

And you also never know when blizz may change or buff tier

[obsidian loom]

they need to tbh

[lament belfry]

I am doing something right Thanks blizzard lol

[pure hornet]

Hy wanted to ask witch is better now in high rated pvp? Arms or fury?

[lament belfry]

I mean I just won 6 rounds in solo que as fury at like 1.8-1.9k people

I also highly recommend getting the 2 infurious PVP gear

[brazen rock]

and i just won 6 rounds as arms at 2k

[pure hornet]

So fury?

Or arms?

[brazen rock]

both

play whats fun

[lament belfry]

They're both really good atm.

[brazen rock]

shuffle is a meme

[shy geyser]

botha re fine in my opinion right now, if youre healer is legit af go arms, if not fury

[buoyant sleet]

they're both fine in solo, in 3's it depends on what comps you have to work with

[lament belfry]

Fury has more toolsets than Arms but Arms does a good single target damage.

[brazen rock]

sharpen is cracked for shuffle

lmao what

how does fury have more tools then arms?

[lament belfry]

They're almost non ccable than arms is

[brazen rock]

tools

[pure hornet]

I heard arms got hue damage buff. And fury is ok with crap healer but good healer arms is better

Huge*

[lament belfry]

What you mean more tools, they literally have 2 self heal options. They're still tanky af at 3% enrage. Beserkers rage, Commanding shout if you have it, Bloodrage for roots constantly being annoyance etc

[brazen rock]

you do realise

zerk rage and shout

[river river]

Think neck would be worth getting?

[brazen rock]

are for both specs

both specs get impending

arms gets a real MS

banner

duel

[lament belfry]

Yeah and compared to Arms what's their defensive PARRY?

[brazen rock]

fury has bloodrage, thats it

and arms can storm out of roots so idk where your going with this 🙂

[pure hornet]

I like fury like oxigen but i dont wanna miss out cuz arms is better

Thats why i ask

[tepid imp]

@pure hornet I think you started a war xD

[pure hornet]

No intent..but want to devite next two years tot pvp and i play

Only one spec and get specialize in it full time

Better mind muscle memory if you stick with one spec

[buoyant sleet]

it kind of helps to learn both specs, or even multiple classes

[brazen rock]

fury requires next to no actual talent to play

its just game skill

[river river]

How much does conquest go up next week?

[brazen rock]

550

[river river]

Trying to figure out if I save or not this week

[pure hornet]

Game skill as in positioning /pressure? Etc?

[brazen rock]

yes

skill that translates to every melee dps spec

[buoyant sleet]

anyways thoughts? thinking of just going the 411 heroic shoulders since i have the crafted helm and weapon already :\

[brazen rock]

if you pve at all, shoulders

or wep if your pve wep is dookie

[noble rune]

is prot pvp viable?

and if so, any good builds u guys got?

[eager mortar]

how much do you have now?

[river river]

650

[sharp meteor]

Ye.

[noble rune]

got a build for me maybe?

[thick reef]

Pins

[noble rune]

ty

[sharp meteor]

honestly prot seems like suffering into casters

but should be a solid time into a lot of physical stuff

just perma peel teammates

[final pond]

Is the tier set any good for pvp? pulled one in the vault, but unsure

[eager mortar]

I'll say spend it because conquest currency doesn't reset to 0 so it will be 650/2450 (1900+new conquest cap)

[brazen rock]

2set good for arms

fury tier is beyond ass

like, needs a total rework levels of ass

[final pond]

xD
Thank you haha

[brazen rock]

4 set probably not worth losing the vers for

[coral axle]

Execute being so dog as fury feels pretty bad in general

Not much of an execute at all

[stuck karma]

Hows the arms tier looking?

Like, whats the 2set one?

[brazen rock]

10% ms dmg and crit chance

[sharp meteor]

Fury tier seems pretty heckin weak.

[brazen rock]

3% simmed.

(dh is 11% kek)

[sharp meteor]

lol

lmao

[thick reef]

Wouldn't put it past them to buff it when the catalyst drops

[brazen rock]

i think they just want us to play arms

in pve

[thick reef]

Wuht

[brazen rock]

which is fine cuz fury rotation makes me fall asleep

[sharp meteor]

ooga booga meathead spec

[thick reef]

Ooga booga meathead class*

[brazen rock]

i mean arms is fairly involved

esp after 10.0.5

[thick reef]

More than fury, not more than other melee

[brazen rock]

?

more than ww, outlaw

feral i could argue

ret fdk for sure

[lyric violet]

It makes my hands ache

[kind canopy]

what do i do

[brazen rock]

bros already afk week 2

lol

[kind canopy]

do i swap boots

[lean burrow]

insignia or socket maybe

[river river]

Random I got for 2's just all inned a person who karmad me

I dont understand solo shuffle que, I get a pop someone declines and im stuck in queue for another 15 minutes

[lean burrow]

cancel if longer than 15 minutes

then requeue

or longer than 20 minutes

[outer hornet]

my queue's average like 20-25 min. I would never get into a game then

[turbid ember]

So you wait 30 mins instead of 20-30

[thick reef]

Arms more involved than WW? Lmao no. Not sure on outlaw, don't they have essentially the same stuff as other rogues?

fDK maybe. Not ret. There just lots of shitty rets. But a good ret has to do a lot.

[uneven turret]

should i pick sword? currently playing fury though, with 424 Mastery Mainhand and 411 Honor offhand.

[green wyvern]

sword for sure

[uneven turret]

but its crit

[stuck karma]

You pick sword, then respecc arms

[brazen rock]

ok 👍

[brazen rock]

you pick shoulders and start playing arms as god intended.

[river river]

And I get into a match and someone dcs

[near delta]

Unhinged feels pretty good in 2s

[thick reef]

Just tired of all the self fellating on arms as being involved when it's still one of the simplest DPS specs in the whole game.

[steep inlet]

Not at high rating

Big peel work to do

Pre banner pre disarm etc

Pré storm

[near delta]

The ability to outplay on arms is just massive

[steep inlet]

Yep

[brazen rock]

it fucking CLAPS if there's no pets

[livid crown]

Bit torn here. I already have the conq shoulders, but rolled PVP set piece shoulders in Vault. But other 2 options are ring/trink, which I do not have conq versions of yet. What would yall choose?

[thick reef]

Every spec has a higher cieling at higher ranks. So yes, more self wank.

[near delta]

It's crazy into rogues

[steep inlet]

Na ikusame try to pre interv a blind for example

Hard one

[near delta]

Outlaw has one of the highest skillcaps in the game imo not sure what that guy was talking about

APM is silly

[brazen rock]

im talking pve

[near delta]

Oh maybe rarely did it there, but from my limited experience it was a lot more challenign

[brazen rock]

the one i raid with says its a joke of "hit the shiny shit quickly"

[near delta]

But also I have weak wrists lol

[final pond]

If you're arms, go shoulders

[near delta]

Yeah basically haha

[thick reef]

In pve arms has even less to do since alot of, if not all their pvp depth is pvp only skills

[brazen rock]

ok 🙂

[livid crown]

👍 What I figured.

[full quiver]

does anyone have a working add on to track friendly preservation evoker abilities?

[raw summit]

Outlaw is 3 buttons in pve

[full quiver]

they aren't showing up on my gladius/gladiusex

[raw summit]

Omnicd does work

[full quiver]

do you need to go in and turn them on

i swear i have omnicd on but it's just for enemies

[raw summit]

There's a baseline selection of stuff it tracks but you have to customize it

You might be refering to omnibar?

[stuck karma]

Who hurt you?

[arctic aurora]

is vault the only way to get tier set with pvp boosted level?

[sharp meteor]

Right now, yes. We can craft it in...4 weeks.

[full quiver]

@raw summit

for preservation evoker it's blank

[tribal wedge]

Im getting out damage every Times as arms against Fury, am i just Bad or IS it normal ?

[rose phoenix]

is tier set for Fury trash in PvP too? I have a choice between tier shoulders or a regular chest

[tribal wedge]

Probably

[brazen rock]

saved, ty

also just cracked an sp in world pvp for 150k ms

arms 4 lyfe.

[fickle forge]

Liar

[sharp meteor]

🪓

[fickle forge]

Fury enjoyer

😠

[brazen rock]

used to

no longer

[fickle forge]

Talk again when you hit 6pl8 bench press

[brazen rock]

3pl8 good enuf?

😦

[fickle forge]

Okay I'll let it pass

[plain lynx]

fury still viable?

[brazen rock]

for sure

[torpid fjord]

i'm adding sockets to my neck, i heard they were bugged are they still bugged or should i just get 3 tier 3 sockets?

[viscid bluff]

How long does it take for someone to be good at pvp?

[turbid ember]

Define "good"

[raw summit]

Weird, idk a fix tbh

[turbid ember]

Because my definition is when you stop tunnel visioning and don't think of which keybinding does what ability.

[craggy socket]

Tough hoice today

Idk if I start gearing towards arms...or stick to fury with my vault

the set bonus will put arms way above fury huh

[lean burrow]

from bicmex' video:

avg dh name

[raw summit]

Isnt that trencate

[dawn mulch]

You can get two tier-2 socket settings, and one tier-3

I just did it earlier today

[torpid fjord]

is there any value in that vs tier 1-2-3?

[full quiver]

That's tren isn't it

Oh Phil beat me lol

[dawn mulch]

No benefit either way, a socket is a socket

[dawn void]

From my vault should I get the tier pvp chest (crit/vers) or the regular pvp piece (vers/haste)?

[torpid fjord]

much appreciated

[dawn void]

(Fury zugger)

[near delta]

That's basically the best DH lol

[lean burrow]

best dh has sucky name

[near delta]

His ww is named ßrüçéléègøðx lol

[raw summit]

whats the guy named shadowdragon in all alt letters again

[hot solstice]

yeah its ok...u won't beat him in face to face race...the only chance is to do swaps on healer or to survive till late dampening, when his self heal becomes useless

[tribal wedge]

Not beating him yes, but being outdamage isnt normal imo, i m just not good enough, first week Fury smooth my brain

[thick reef]

XxKaelrothxx
Sephithas

[hot solstice]

furry always outdamages arms now with full uptime and equal skill

[cyan heath]

so for fury conq weapon, i want the polearm right with vers/mast?

anyone know?

[sharp meteor]

all the dh/rogue players who just use some japanese word with an accented char

[gaunt galleon]

Gigachad 2 letter names

[full quiver]

my dh is "threeslotbag"

[thick reef]

a 3 gem 405 lariat is more useful than a 411 honor piece right?

[full quiver]

think so

[sharp meteor]

Should be.

[thick reef]

kk

[night verge]

hey does anyone have an arms rbg build?

[teal adder]

hey guys, quick question for blademasters torment talent

[thick reef]

1. Blade storm
2. Welcome to 2400

[teal adder]

whats the best way to use the double blade storm

on the opener for arena?

[crude bane]

jonhcoffey isnt the highest rated Dh ?

[teal adder]

any explainers in the chat?

[fickle forge]

Avg DH name indeed

[lean burrow]

illidan is out there somewhere

[thick reef]

guys what is the stat priority for fury?

[zenith marlin]

i lost a duel vs a fkn shadow priest

if I pop cds he can just bubble and fuck off

if I dont, he has no reason to bubble

[jovial meteor]

With the Martial Prowess nerfs, are we still aiming for 2 overpowers before a mortal strike?

[brazen rock]

no

press ms whenever it lights up lul

[nimble jasper]

you can 3 gem an honor neck

+lariat counts towards embellished items limit

[thick reef]

yea i kinda fucked myself on that anyway cause i raid and do pvp and i made a 2her without really looking into how fast we get sparks so i dont even have the helm or boots made yet anyway

fury + pvp/pver = sparks are scuffed cant change my mind

[nimble jasper]

yeah i mean if you pve on the char it’s a given you made a lariat

also prob dont have a lariat with vers if its for pve

unless rogue

or monk

the effect is halved in pvp

[thick reef]

its just a feels bad the most optimal way for me to gear is to make 2 warriors

the lariat equip effect is halved in pvp?

[nimble jasper]

was gonna be that way anyway

purely because one vault

yes

[thick reef]

still worth using a 405 over a 411 honor tho im assuming

[nimble jasper]

idk why it would be if 411 honor also can have 3 sockets

[thick reef]

oh

[nimble jasper]

you just have to buy a medallion setting of each rank

[thick reef]

you can jsut buy the tiered things and stick on an honor neck too?

i always manage to overlook some shit

i took pvp gear my first 2 vaults anyway cause my guild is mid and i out dps everyone save like 2 people

not banking on blizzard fixing fury tier any time soon

[nimble jasper]

i mean i could take pvp vault if its tier legs

cuz 405 pvp tier legs>402 hc

[zenith marlin]

will blizz admit that empyrean domain burns eyes

and change it

[ripe turtle]

is there any 1 shot arms pvp build instead of the bleed build?

i see a icy veins guide but no talent tree

[mild thunder]

Is the only way to get socket things from the vault tokens this season?

[mild thunder]

Look at the icy veins guide

[ripe turtle]

just said im watching icy veins but there is no talet tree

[mild thunder]

There are three

[ripe turtle]

found it nvm:)

[mild thunder]

Allg

It’s basically just take everything that buffs ms

Stack modifiers

[ripe turtle]

ye I just played bleed build it seems strong but dont really like it

[copper hare]

2 weeks into the season

and prevoker is still not nerfed

still doing 70k hps every game

fun experience

[quaint bison]

2 weeks into the szn

And my dps dragon is still roadkill tier

[nimble jasper]

devoker seems fine

its just not sp or demo tier

[full quiver]

remember when gameplay review channel used to have vods to review

bruins legacy gone after squadov shut down

[sharp meteor]

devoker dmg profile is weird

they crank rly hard

just no range

[full quiver]

yeah leaving them alone feels sus lol

[thick reef]

Wouldn't say they're bad, just currently demo and shp dominate range due to high survivability

[crimson sentinel]

is army better than fury now?

[quaint bison]

We crank really hard for 20s and used our defensives to not die / get kicked into oblivion during that window then proceed to get steamrolled when everyone’s 1.5 min cds come back up

[crimson sentinel]

arms**

[quaint bison]

Due to our mastery, we’re actually less scary when your low hp. Blew a burst rotation to get you there but zero finishing power

[full quiver]

i swear you just play with something that gets cds on it's own

then blast someone when they're 50%

[nimble jasper]

idk sp just does

[quaint bison]

If they gave it an execute that always benefited from mastery, instant S tier

[nimble jasper]

fat dam

and doesnt die

[full quiver]

idk why people don't play dk/devoker

[nimble jasper]

survivability is just a bonus

[full quiver]

i love that sp is good

because dh/dk can just w key at it whole game

lol

[quaint bison]

I want to but no DKs wanna run with me 😦

[nimble jasper]

dhdk is a better comp

[uneven turret]

would u take crit sword from vault if you already have mastery polearm? (fury)

[nimble jasper]

prob best comp rn come to think

[full quiver]

no it's not mich

it's d tier

should buff dk and dh tbh

nerf feral

[golden urchin]

idk it take the sword thats 1800 conquest

like 2 peices

idk tho

[quaint bison]

Did you just say buff DH

I found the imposter

[full quiver]

the only thing i want looked at right now is preservation evoker

sin damage / MS a little crazy too

[nimble jasper]

feral dam

[golden urchin]

i win alot more vs sin since last weeks nerfs

[wise fossil]

Are we still rocking the same talents are Fury or are there any ffinds?

[grand scaffold]

buff dh?

wtf why

[outer hornet]

yea wait wtf

[grand scaffold]

they are already a nuisance

kinda like razonko

[nimble jasper]

barely got nerfed

[mild thunder]

🤨

[nimble jasper]

the rot pressure is still wild

but alot of fotm rogues dont multidot

[mild thunder]

worst part is if assa becomes shit, they all just roll to outlaw

and then get tier

and will still be busted

[thick reef]

DH are about to get stronger, their set bonus is very strong

[nimble jasper]

oh i got tier

wanted to test out fatty ambushes

on players

[mild thunder]

well it fixes one of outlaw's main problems

[nimble jasper]

i doubt assa becomes shit

[mild thunder]

which was burst

[nimble jasper]

but alot cant rot

[golden urchin]

was like 13 percent of total dmg lol

[mild thunder]

outlaw was so boring to play because every game went for 5 minutes

[nimble jasper]

even tho assa spriest is kind of meant to multikill teams

[golden urchin]

quite substantial

[nimble jasper]

where are you getting 13

it was a 5% output nerf

from pure pve at least

then 30% deathmark

[golden urchin]

3 percent from pve nerfs that transfered then 10 percent on all dots and bleeds no?

plus deathmark and talent nerf

[nimble jasper]

where are you getting 10%

they only nerfed fatal conoction slightly

[mild thunder]

unironically, arms may be a very high A tier after the 10.0.5 buffs

[nimble jasper]

if they actually bugfixed numbing

to not be a haste debuff

thats a bigger deal

idk its still a jke

20k+ garrote ticks

[full quiver]

arms will do huge dam

but still be super squishy so we'll see lol

[mild thunder]

yea but the damage

is going to be some of the best in pvp

not to mention how diverse the damage profile will be

[scarlet crown]

im still not sure so im gonna ask. With the wpvp set and honor gear, honor gear > wpvp gear right? Because of the eventually scaled iLvl?

[mild thunder]

burst, burst bleeds, cleave and very high consistent dam all in one build

[mild thunder]

yes

[scarlet crown]

ty

[mild thunder]

wpvp gear bonus is disabled in instanced pvp

[scarlet crown]

gotcha

[mild thunder]

my question is

does anyone know if the bloody token gear can be turned into tier?

[grand scaffold]

FUCK

im 2 points away from duelist on my lock

and the que has been going on for 50 minutes

wtf

[mild thunder]

shuffle?

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[mild thunder]

yea

queues are scuffed

[grand scaffold]

so whacky

like legit

how can a que go on for 50 minutes

even lfr is faster than that

cant tell me there arent 6 people at 2100

and there are 40 people ready to waste 3 hours fighting the urge to fall asleep pve'ing

[full quiver]

well iti s the middle of a work day

lol

[grand scaffold]

well

that is true actually

its 12:30 am where i live tho

kinda forgot time zones exist

[full quiver]

lol

well 12:30am wouldn't be a good queue time either my guy

go to sleeep

[thick reef]

Imagine having gainful employment when you could be pushing rating. Pfft.

[grand scaffold]

hahahahahahaha

[grand scaffold]

ikr

😂

can anybody link the duelist enchant?

i wanna see how it looks

[full quiver]

not out yet

lol

COME ON NDOGO WHAT ARE U EVEN DOING

[grand scaffold]

wdym

in africa day time is like 4 am for you guys

nobody on at that time

HOLY FUCK

I GOT THE QUE

i hope people dont decline que

FUUUUUUUUUUUCK

insta reque

HOLY SHIT

[full quiver]

lol

[grand scaffold]

I GOT IN

[full quiver]

stream it

[regal locust]

I just waited 30 minutes and then a healer rage quit

[full quiver]

streammm in skyhold general

[grand scaffold]

ok

[regal locust]

Had 4 wins and about to go on 5th

[full quiver]

need my lunch entertainment lol

[nimble jasper]

people ragequit alot at lower ratings

[fast inlet]

stat prio for fury ?

[smoky anchor]

why would you remotely think this? inspiration catalyst won't be open till late january

[grand scaffold]

2 losses in a row

😠

[full quiver]

this is not a great lobby for u at all lol

[grand scaffold]

scooberz who do i focus

[mild thunder]

because its an interesting question lol

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[mild thunder]

why you so hurt?

[grand scaffold]

all physical dmg

[full quiver]

i'd stand out in the middle more

so they can't hug pillar

but i dont' play casters

[mild thunder]

the gear is technically endgame content gear, but it may or may not be convertable

[grand scaffold]

bro

this is the worst lobby ever

i cant live

[full quiver]

lol

[grand scaffold]

actually

rdru has lost all 3 games

maybe thats the issue

as long as i win 3 i get 2100

[smoky anchor]

i dont think it will be convertible because I don't think it comes out of the vault. iirc, only stuff that can come out of the vault can be converted to tier.

[full quiver]

i was gonna say

that one healer seems pretty bad too

[mild thunder]

where did you read that?

[smoky anchor]

are you arms or fury? wondering if i should swap, have been having a lot of success with fury but i heard arms is good

[smoky anchor]

that's how it worked in shadowlands

[grand scaffold]

rdru is the problem

[full quiver]

ez

[mild thunder]

no its not

[grand scaffold]

D E M O

but

fury atm

[mild thunder]

if i remember correctly, some of the ZM pieces could be converted to tier

[grand scaffold]

FUCK

[full quiver]

LOL

[grand scaffold]

THIS FUCKTARD LEFT

WTF

WHO DOES THAT AT THIS CR

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[full quiver]

someone who is 0-4

and knows they're gonna be 0-6 i guess

lol

RIP

[grand scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/madcat-ygzcat-cat-pussy-madpussy-gif-24909889

never seen something like that

i thought these trolls quit at 1800

[smoky anchor]

you're right. it might just be gear from that season that could be converted, in which case, world pvp gear would be convertible

[light granite]

i have a buddy who is hardstuck at 1050. he goes 1/6 often and swears the game is bugged

[grand scaffold]

that was my 2100 game

and this idiot left

😦

[smoky anchor]

wow i can't even imagine what games are like down at 1050

[full quiver]

[light granite]

i know lol. i just tell him, yeah man its buggy

[grand scaffold]

[light granite]

can't break the news

[full quiver]

well thx for the lunch entertainment lol

[grand scaffold]

np

im waiting 11 more minutes for a que

if i dont get one by then ima sleep

[full quiver]

"11 "

lol

aka 45

[grand scaffold]

nah

1 am is too late to be queueing past

[full quiver]

why are u in africa

[coral axle]

It's really something else man, I trolled super hard my first solo shuffle game as disc and ended up in 1k. Gotta see it to believe it

[full quiver]

queueing NA

[grand scaffold]

well

africa has nice weather

the person who got me into wow was on na

so yeah

[full quiver]

interesting

isn't your ping horrible tho

[grand scaffold]

its 260

i got 2400 with it at 300 tho

its not really the end of the world

if i ever got a taste of low ms i could never play on high ms again tho

[compact heron]

Damnit, got a Tier helm in my weekly box

[full quiver]

260 is a lot lol

[grand scaffold]

well

here its low

its only that low because i have exitlag

how much do you play on

im writing a ticket to blizzard about that guy leaving

its really spoiled my mood

[autumn whale]

Ii was playing with 250 + ping oceanic, and after using exitlag and stuffing around with my pc i tried a VPN and that worked perfectly.

[full quiver]

prob like 25-30 for me

lol

[grand scaffold]

wtf

thats so crazy

is that consistant

?

[full quiver]

WELL I'M IN OREGON

NOT IN AFRICA

LOL

[grand scaffold]

hahahaha

[autumn whale]

since i didnt want to pay for internet and vpn i spoke to my ISP and they had me on a simple bandwidth thing good for offices (not sure the tech word) but i opted out of that and now i dont need a vpn

[smoky anchor]

It really isn't that big of a deal on games like Wow, even in PvP, imo.

[grand scaffold]

HOLY FUCK

SOLO SHUFFLE QUE

lets see if i get in

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[smoky anchor]

i shat bricks last night i had a 3 minute queue as dps

[grand scaffold]

ooh nice

im in

[full quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/caroline-cameron-sportsnet-round2-round-two-sign-gif-17953909

[grand scaffold]

anybody wanna watch it?

[wispy cedar]

sure

[smoky anchor]

no it's laggy af

[grand scaffold]

hah

[humble frost]

do we want to prioritize the tier set as arms from the vault?

[lucid walrus]

it’s a pretty big deal, yea

[grand scaffold]

good first round

holy shit

bev is still around

how are you man

[quasi lotus]

kek ye i'm alive

[sage raptor]

Your brain power says otherwise

I'm sorry :(

(Not really fuq u)

[full quiver]

wowowowow

[grand scaffold]

good round 2

[grand scaffold]

haha

good to hear from you popo

[full quiver]

2.1 inc

[grand scaffold]

been a while

dang

2/3 so far

not bad

[full quiver]

y do u never use health stone

stressing me out

[grand scaffold]

yeah

its macrod to my huge wall

dont worry

[full quiver]

oh

lol

[grand scaffold]

GG

3/4

1 more win

and i can garantee 2100

[quaint bison]

Has there been any rumblings from the PvE only dorks complaining about getting tier from PvP?

[grand scaffold]

4/5

ez

i win this one

and i get like 2140

[full quiver]

hopefully no one leaves

lol

[grand scaffold]

yeah

pray to God

[full quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/allah-gif-25515769

[grand scaffold]

BANG

5/6

[full quiver]

: OOOOo

[full quiver]

good thing that dude left first one

LOL

[grand scaffold]

at long last

proof im not bad

[full quiver]

i woudln't use shuffle rating as proof

[grand scaffold]

well

im going to

😂

[full quiver]

lol

[quaint bison]

Duelist on demo lock is like combatant on anything else

[grand scaffold]

ok lmao

you got duelist?

[quaint bison]

It’s hard to lose when you literally don’t die

The only thing that can sandbag you is your healer

[grand scaffold]

cya scooberz

ima sleep now

[long ridge]

what do i choose guys

[teal adder]

how do you stick to resto druid for kill?

like if im arms holy priest, how do we kill resto druid arms

[undone pumice]

get dudu in fear/stun and kill arms

[sharp meteor]

only go rdoo off hots

like he hots/barks partner, swap him

[teal adder]

hmm ok

ty both

[wheat jay]

Oof

[vale ibex]

verse mastery cloak or badge from chest?

[lean burrow]

isn't badge more expensive

[vale ibex]

crit on it, idk

[sudden barn]

What's playing better atm fury or arms for arena and rbg?

[steep inlet]

rofl this ndogo

getting duellist as demo lock in solo shuffle and flexing

[lucid walrus]

they've got nothing to complain about tbh

they can get it from their vault and the bosses they farm

[coral axle]

Getting duelist with 250 ping is pretty sweet ngl, trying to pvp in the laggy hell of the sparks quests is tough enough

[near delta]

I just assumed it was fury/arms until peeps said something lmao

[quaint bison]

I mean that’s what I’m saying but I fucking know some raider andy who’s never set foot in arena is LIVID because someone who does everything is more geared than him in his raid

I can see it now “duelist tier? Is this a fucking joke, this guy gets tier from battlegrounds? Blizz is trash”

[royal rose]

After weapons, whats the order of items you should get?

[green wyvern]

I swear assa rogue is THE counter to arms in shuffle, you lose every game to the rogue and arms/assa is a terrible comp so you lose those games too

straight up 0/6 for the arms warrior

if the assa has iq higher than 50

[sharp meteor]

arms/assa seems fine

although yeah into assa kms

[ionic thorn]

Polearm or Set pants from vault?

[spice hornet]

Ndogo gives me bruin vibes

[spice hornet]

The rogue clsss cancels your existence as a warrior

It will never change unless dismantle is removed again

The Blizz dev who mains rogue brought it back because he lost to an arms warrior in shadowlands S1

[mild thunder]

this is exactly how pure-raider brain works

[mild thunder]

demo lock hard

[green wyvern]

warrior should have stayed as the utility/control + tanky class

[mild thunder]

arms*

[green wyvern]

SL S2 arms design was fine, they could have just nerfed its damage and left it

like

why ruin the entire spec

[eager mortar]

people I met in SS today were saying fury should be nerfed

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mild thunder]

shufflers have lower iq than rbgers

dont listen to them

[eager mortar]

of course, they have no enchant nor gems

[mild thunder]

oh yea, enchants

forgot about those

god, FUCK shadow priests

[sharp meteor]

SO true

[mild thunder]

playing shuffle and this guy just runs back and forth across the bridge - aoe root, aoe horror, stuns, disperse, blah blah blah

it never ends

[zenith marlin]

kekw 140k mortal strike 35k overkill

[left scarab]

when does s1 end?

[mild thunder]

no one knows yet

[left scarab]

rough idea?

[mild thunder]

but will probably go to late feb/march

probably later

[left scarab]

ty

[mild thunder]

since theres a 10.0.7 patch

almost definitely longer

[restive junco]

maybe a silly question but do you get the tier set bonus in pvp?

[mild thunder]

bloody token set bonus? no
class set bonuses? yes

[zenith marlin]

why do I hit harder in solo shuffle

XD

maybe ppl dont use their defensives

[sharp meteor]

They do not.

[nimble jasper]

the sub 20% dh darkness special

[zenith marlin]

I killed a DH in 4 GCDs in a shuffle

dude forgot to pop anything

[sharp meteor]

trinket the last half second of a kidney to dark/blur at 9% while the healer also trinkets

[nimble jasper]

reminds me once in SL

[sharp meteor]

"gg this healer"

[nimble jasper]

i killed a dh through his 70% dark

and blur

[zenith marlin]

i think he was figuring out why he cant get out of the blue circle

[mild thunder]

defensives? bro, thats a healers job

[restive junco]

I've searhed with no luck but is their a sheet i could reference on what pieces i should prio for pvp.. i.e tier set golves vs glad legs ect.

[nimble jasper]

i mean you dont get a choice

[mild thunder]

its their job to chase me behind pillar and keep me up

[nimble jasper]

early on

[zenith marlin]

Imagine if they made defensive stance 50/50 T^T

[mild thunder]

get trinket bonus > get weapon

then get whatever you want

[royal rose]

Yeah spriest are so broken, same with demo locks.

[nimble jasper]

dont buy a conquest medallion

until last

[zenith marlin]

I lost a duel vs a spriest as an arms

[mild thunder]

get the tier gloves

[zenith marlin]

dang yall got ur chests already?

I am about to do CoS 18 before that

[nimble jasper]

ngl

i cant wait to get ran at

by dhs with the fire ring

in coming weeks

[zenith marlin]

February 7

And we may

slam them for 50k

[brazen rock]

dont forget tier

[mild thunder]

just remembered they released a rough roadmap a few weeks ago

[nimble jasper]

"you guys dont have 4p already?"

[thorn estuary]

4-piece tierset worth for pvp or nay?

[nimble jasper]

monks gonna be funny

[mild thunder]

10.1 will definitely go 1-2 months past march

[brazen rock]

as fury, no.

[nimble jasper]

30% buff to rsk after fisting

[brazen rock]

arms 2set is pretty good

arms 4 set you sacrifice alot of vers for

[restive junco]

great vault gives me to much anxiety

[brazen rock]

but shoulders/legs have haste/vers so 2piece is worthwhile for arms.

[lean burrow]

new season is 10.1 patch?

[mild thunder]

yea

[nimble jasper]

great vault is like christmas with a 90% chance of coal

[mild thunder]

just pointing out that it may be a longer-than-typical season

[lean burrow]

[mild thunder]

since there's a dedicated 10.0.5 AND 10.0.7

both of which have new content

whole new zone in 10.0.7

[lean burrow]

no duelist cloak and illusion

[nimble jasper]

allegedly illusion isnt ingame

[lean burrow]

giga cringe

[nimble jasper]

yet

[nimble jasper]

elite set has a cloak tho

so idk

[thorn estuary]

yeh I got the gloves on my vault but think the 4-piece sacrifices a lot of vers

[lean burrow]

so season 2 is like april

[nimble jasper]

you really dont need vers on every slot

people act like 35 vs 38 vers is the reason they died

or not

[brazen rock]

not saying u do, im saying i dont think 4 piece arms is worth dropping the vers for

[left scarab]

ty again

[thorn estuary]

im near 25% vers its a good cap? last season 30% was like the soft-cap no ? I mean after that % didnt feel much difference

[nimble jasper]

i mean no

im 27 with some no vers pieces

[zenith marlin]

should I drop bladestorm

and get fatality

[royal rose]

@nimble jasper What would be the first item you suggest getting with conquest after weapons?

[nimble jasper]

entirely vault dependent

[worn flame]

imo fatality does not feel good

[lean burrow]

bladestorm is best button in the game

just for cc immune

[brazen rock]

no wtf

[tardy dirge]

can someone help out please. i had a conq gear in vault that had set bonus on it but i went with conq weopon. i just bought conq chest piece but cant see any gear in vender with set bonus's. is the only way to get bonus's from vault?

[zenith marlin]

bladestorm is just root break or exit smoke bomb button for me

[nimble jasper]

nope

raid or wait till the 27th of jan

[royal rose]

I have weapons, and gloves. Debating on getting neck so I can have that mainstat/haste or main stat/vers gem crafted

[nimble jasper]

for catalyst

[lean burrow]

give fury bladestorm back

[mild thunder]

no

[lean burrow]

[zenith marlin]

give arms ignore pain back

PLS

omg pls

so I never press slam again

[nimble jasper]

neck is so mediocre

[tardy dirge]

thats so rough! i should have maybe gone the pvp set bonus then

[nimble jasper]

no mainstat

[zenith marlin]

Improved Slam ❤️

[nimble jasper]

i mean fury set bonus sucks ass

its like a 2% gain in pve

so aint shit for pvp

[zenith marlin]

am I about to drop all my utility

[tardy dirge]

hmm fair but for arms its nice

[zenith marlin]

and get slam points in

[nimble jasper]

i mean yeah

idk

21 in solo

[zenith marlin]

nah it ends up same dmg as overpower or less

[nimble jasper]

waiting for game to not suck dong

then maybe play for mount

[zenith marlin]

if they didnt force feed me dragonflight for 60-70

id level my alts and heal

[undone pumice]

true real and basee

[zenith marlin]

but I cant bear to do any expansion post MoP for leveling

[nimble jasper]

my healer is an ff andy now

so idk

[undone pumice]

idk wod is bearable

[nimble jasper]

i dont have motivation to q

[zenith marlin]

I just do Kalimdor tbf

[undone pumice]

zug zug continent

[restive junco]

but you can level in 90 mins via the cobalt thing

[undone pumice]

best continent

[zenith marlin]

Durotar > Barrens > Needles > Tanaris > Ungoro is mega zug zug

its so peaceful too

[nimble jasper]

maybe i level dh to 70 rq from 60 to get the set

but DF elite sucks ass

compared to legion sets

lol

[zenith marlin]

i wish when I die my brain auto runs that content before I loose my consioucness

so I can enjoy my questing rotation once more in peace

tbf I can probably do that just by thinking

[nimble jasper]

good ol legion dhdk zugzug

[zenith marlin]

ah yes slapping peons

[nimble jasper]

grip triple stun

kill some turbo in opener

[restive junco]

i figured theyd nerf the xp at cobalt so you could level so fast but it still worked last night

[nimble jasper]

leveling in df is kind of a joke anyway

[zenith marlin]

i can level the tank specs by dung spam which I dont mind

[nimble jasper]

once you max out dragonriding its a giant meme

[zenith marlin]

so that's 3 healers

my paladin is human which I no longer associate with

[lean burrow]

how about arms slam build?

all talent points into slam

[zenith marlin]

BFA s1 vibes

[nimble jasper]

its a good thing my first push partner

is a really good spriest

[zenith marlin]

with slam azerites

[nimble jasper]

if i bothered to q

for mount this ssn

[zenith marlin]

my partner is a resto

who is pve heor

hero

and is too high to have pvp reflexes

[nimble jasper]

rps was so fun to erase

every resto druid

from existence

also warlock players when they realize you cant wall while silenced

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[zenith marlin]

2nd Vanish rly makes rogues fked in solo shuffle

[lean burrow]

isn't it only sub rogue

sub rogue in shuffle

[left scarab]

another Q wtf can i buy food for arena?

[zenith marlin]

every rogue man

every rogue spec is equally viable its insane

[left scarab]

anyone know the name of it?

[mild thunder]

no

you cant buy food for arena

[zenith marlin]

healers drink mana tho

all the time

[mystic barn]

that’s different

it’s mage food or water

water loosely meaning drinks that restore mana

[pearl prism]

How were you doing it?

[left scarab]

ok ty

[restive junco]

@pearl prism you can group with any party that's grinding cobalt rep with the powers ect. and you just get a massive amount of xp from the mobs.. If you cant find a group you can just layer hop till you find one with groups there and just spam tag mobs and leech the xp. I've been leveling alts in like 2 - 2 1/2 hours just casually. Theres people selling boost now all the time in Trade chat for like 70k by doing this and you just follow them around at the cobalt zone lol

you can optimize it with the speed buffs ect so you can get more tags.. but its just easy xp regardless

People were saying they were gonna hot fix it so you dont get xp from them below a certain lvl but it hasnt went out yet so idk

[torpid roost]

What the fuck is Larosx doing, he's like 200 points ahead of every other arms warrior, he hit 2700

TEACH MEEEEE

[zenith marlin]

he go

zug zug

enemy dead

[torpid roost]

he zuggin' the fuck out them boys apparently

He didn't choose the Zug life, the Zug life chose him

and he probably doesn't go zugzug, he's a dark iron dwarf

[mystic barn]

dark iron zugs harder than orc rn

totally disregard some cringe specs

[pearl prism]

How much xp you getting per kill? Many mobs I was tagging last night was only giving 900 x p

[tepid imp]

What are the best enchants for fury war?

[brazen rock]

There's no better high than clearing an entire row of assa buffs, popping badge, hitting 13k str, and cranking that rogue in the face for 75% of his hp

[mystic barn]

I wouldn’t know I don’t play warrior nor do I have a dark iron dwarf

ez

[brazen rock]

Gross

[lean burrow]

wait, you just tag mobs and level up in 2 hours?

[restive junco]

yea basically

granted thats with war mode on and just getting lucky nobody messes with you

[hoary estuary]

You’re a badge user now?

[full quiver]

Gnome bis war

[pearl prism]

yo guys, got a tough vault choice. I got the trinket that gives chance for primary stat. Other options are ring and shoulders which are both upgrades. Now, I use the health battlemaster's trinket, but I see some warriors on the ladder with the chance to increase primary stat proc trinket

Do you think I should get the trinket and play around with it? or be safe and just get the shoulders?

[green wyvern]

trinkets are kinda personal choice

get the shoulders I think

[pearl prism]

yeah I think so too, unless someone thinks that trinket is busted somehow

[green wyvern]

it's not

I play the proc trinket cus Im too lazy to manage active trinkets

full zug zug

[lavish quest]

Hello fellow warriors. Question if anyone knows the answer:
So I've noticed tier comes from the pvp vault. Does this mean all of the tier pieces from the raid scale in pvp? And is it the only way to get the set bonuses from the raid? I don't see tier on the pvp vendor.
Do the bonuses work in pvp?

[green wyvern]

bonuses do work in pvp

Set pieces dropped in raid don't have pvp ilvl boost

[lavish quest]

Thank you. Is the vault the only means of acquiring these set bonus pvp pieces? My choice is between this and a second weapon lol

[full quiver]

Currently yes

Catalyst comes in a couple weeks

[green wyvern]

You will be able to "craft" tier set pieces

in a few weeks

with catalyst

[pearl prism]

is there a trophy of strife catchup mechanic for alts?

[lavish quest]

Oh I see. Hmm... okay good to know. Thank you

[crisp hamlet]

necklace worth it over the other?

[brazen rock]

Yup

[hoary estuary]

macro'd with avatar/

prob right

i assume it's better because arms is a big CD spec right?

or is it just your preference

i notice i'm mostly just waiting for cds to get kills usually atm

[brazen rock]

Separate but 99% of time used with avatar.

Just preference I'm not good enough to justify anything

Ain't been above 2300 since mop

[mild thunder]

What’s your biggest ms so far, varughh?

I’m starting to crank the 130k+ hits now that I have my weapon

[tribal wedge]

which build?

unhinged classical build or are you pushing with executionner?

[hoary estuary]

People rly running executioner?

[tribal wedge]

i tried it against demono or bm, like, classes where unhinged lost values, feels really meh

[mild thunder]

Yep

Executioner

Almost every game, usually switch unhinged into double melee, might run it into rogue/mage as well for the bladestorm proc

[near delta]

Whipping bladestorms at them while being unpeelable is so big

[mild thunder]

Yep, plus I’d consider running storm of destruction for ~45 sec storms

Can storm pretty much every second kidney

[near delta]

Feels troll not taking sharpen into rmp but could def be worth

[undone pumice]

yep

[mild thunder]

Idk, I usually don’t have too much trouble without sharpen

But I haven’t versed that many rogue mages yet

[sharp meteor]

it's usually all shielding in the case of disc rmp

or them kiting

like you connect and it's disarm, you're off dr, the mage just got a barrier up, the priest pressed rapture, etc

[zenith marlin]

wtf

1 hour downtime

oh its back

is it

retrieving ream list sems stuck

[mild thunder]

Plus now with wrecking

We lose a bit less without sharpen

Into disc

If it was rmd I would never drop sharpen

Kinda wish there were more than 2 healers in the game

Somehow I miss versing hpal and rsham

[weak swallow]

is there an auto target macro for something for kick

like targeting the nearest caster

[near delta]

Ah I can see that

[near delta]

Nope your best bet is to target one caster and focus the other then use a macro like

#showtooltip
/cast [mod:alt, @focus] Pummel; Pummel

To kick the target or focus target

[weak swallow]

so if im next to a healer, i cant make it so my pummel auto targets the nearest caster

[agile aspen]

no smart targeting

best is focus macro or 123 macro

[weak swallow]

ight

[lucid walrus]

mouseover also an option but that's more for m+

[weak swallow]

is there a target location cast macro for lets say

ravager

like instead of aiming it, it just auto target whoever im focusing