30s to spa
#pvp
wheat jay
onyx vale
because rogue's " class identity " is high cc burst sustained damage mobility defensive cds
mild thunder
That would be too based for blizzard
onyx vale
its funny cuz there was that mage that cried he didn't have enough ccs and didnt counter warriors enough
zenith marlin
and warrior class identity should be OVERHWELMING BACKBREAKING melee dmg
onyx vale
wheat jay
Warrior is in a funny spot
mild thunder
its funny cuz there was that mage that cried he didn't have enough ccs and didnt...
No because, warriors literally shouldn’t be able to beat me 🤡
wheat jay
If it doesnt die, and does dmg, its an apex predator of the ladder
onyx vale
tbh the game is in a fine spot, just need to break dh rogue spriest legs
wheat jay
Prevoker too
wheat jay
Haha
onyx vale
just delete evoker while you are at it
wheat jay
Frost pog, unholy not pog
mild thunder
Unholy was pog back when it was an actual disease spec
onyx vale
I do miss when unholy wasn't a fucking combo spec tho
mild thunder
Unholy now is omega boring
zenith marlin
tbf i am done with pvp
onyx vale
damn I hate how every class became " get ressources, spend ressource "
zenith marlin
LoL is a better pvp game than wow
onyx vale
well lol is a pvp game, while wow pvp is a mini game
wheat jay
Okay
zenith marlin
Atleast they have Tryndamere
onyx vale
so that makes sense
mild thunder
Technically arms isn’t build and spend, because we ignore how much rage we have since our spenders are shit
zenith marlin
lmao and the dmg too ngl
onyx vale
sounds like tryndamere
zenith marlin
rogues are tryndamere T^T
this is pain
world pvp is my jam
ngl
game is balanced when fighting lvl 66s
zenith marlin
nah the only time I ever pushed past 2k was both as holy pala
i think once as arms
zenith marlin
my 2s are 42 wins out of 90 games at 1.3k rating rn LMAO
raw summit
league player
torpid roost
I got 2600 in a hipster comp and then never did anything relevant in pvp again
raw summit
ew
undone pumice
phil tell them how u hit a 199k ice spike or whatever
wheat jay
You need help
undone pumice
and frost needs nerfs
zenith marlin
appearantly i hit 2.5k in bfa
undone pumice
giga
zenith marlin
but that was pure 100% PvE abuse
today was the worst tho
4 wins out of 22 games
in 2s 1300
wheat jay
Oof
brazen rock
my 2s are 42 wins out of 90 games at 1.3k rating rn LMAO
this is what we call washed up
undone pumice
blame team
zenith marlin
ye
zenith marlin
i got 0 enchants except rings
nimble jasper
i meant illusion
undone pumice
exe precision vs unhinged vs fatality
nimble jasper
but not having gear enchants this ssn is oof
undone pumice
the great debate
zenith marlin
used 2 ez push just be being overgeared T^T
raw summit
EP = bigger MS
undone pumice
fatality = bigger exe
raw summit
no
zenith marlin
lets do some checks
raw summit
fatality fucking blows
undone pumice
it is fatal tho
zenith marlin
dis my arms talent
warped warren
undone pumice
wtf
zenith marlin
low crit cuz my epic pieces are for pve prot
undone pumice
piercing verdict jumpscare
zenith marlin
ever since I 2x 100k MS'd a rogue in a single BS I cant leave Unhinged
warped warren
only 100?
wheat jay
Yo
warped warren
i did 150k x2
undone pumice
no do i look dumb
zenith marlin
its cuz crit dmg modifiers
warped warren
im 2400 min in queue
zenith marlin
MS crits hurd
warped warren
@wheat jay
warped warren
no do i look dumb
yes?
undone pumice
wtf
wheat jay
im 2400 min in queue
Good enough
undone pumice
well im dumb and shit
wheat jay
Anyway, I wanted to know if you can buy every elite weapon if you have 2400
Can warrior buy warglaives?
zenith marlin
also do we have
Set bonus yet?
some mfs in my M+ groups have full set
it was a boomie
zenith marlin
pve mfs win again T^T
zenith marlin
ok also binded slam to my bars
xdxdxd
sowe take none of the last tier cuz they are all garbage thx bliz
undone pumice
so bad
undone pumice
mad cuz bad
raw summit
very
zenith marlin
hm 42% of my dps in mortal strike now
that is approaching zug zug levels
nice build
killed a mage in 3 GCDs
wheat jay
Nice
onyx vale
how nerfed is ep in pvp
onyx vale
ahhh
onyx vale
they were inspired by shadowlands
wheat jay
Its not good
onyx vale
brazen rock
5-1 / 4-2 every match
5 cr per match
get trolled by azralon player next match
2-4
onyx vale
never forgetti start of shadowlands ep with condemn
brazen rock
lost 50 cr
onyx vale
17% or something
zenith marlin
BRUH WTF
my little brother took a solo kill
vs a WW
ik it seems like i am overreacting
but this is his first expansion
xd
sharp meteor
Get welfare 1800
honestly alts so good for this right now
11k honor then a bit of conq is real quick
tame raptor
So is fury or arms better
north remnant
Yes
brazen rock
1800 solo shuffle
fuck shuffle dude
1765 as arms, climbing literally 5 cr per match going 4-2 or 5-1
get trolled in 1 match and go 2-4
lost 50 cr
tame raptor
like if fury is gonna end up being worse id rather start learning arms now/get gear ready for it
proud breach
like if fury is gonna end up being worse id rather start learning arms now/get g...
MY MIND SAYS GO ARMS BECAUSE BONUS TIER SET WILL MAKE AAAAARRMSSSS SHINYYY LIKE A UNICORN
tame raptor
i got a bunch of pvp pieces with haste vers, that doesnt work for arms does it?
brazen rock
it works fine
alot of arms are going mostly haste because arms gets tons of free crit
tame raptor
ahh okay
torpid roost
I still don't know how I'm going to gear and I've spent no conq points
because I'm a retard, mostly
hoary stone
I'm debating if I should save up for the second 2 hander or get gear
lucid walrus
I still don't know how I'm going to gear and I've spent no conq points
honestly if you don’t see yourself queuing much in the next 2 days, hold off for vault
torpid roost
(not an authoritative opinion) Offhand isn't worth focusing on
and that was my thought also Endo
lucid walrus
sucks balls to buy weapon and then vault it
torpid roost
actually vaulted weapon this week
lucid walrus
oh tight
torpid roost
Yeah, been pretty lucky on loot, just.... apparently i'm bad at the game now, lmao
related to me being a bad warrior - how's Mockwarlock as a shadowpriest name
autumn whale
I'm debating if I should save up for the second 2 hander or get gear
Why not just farm sparks of life and upgrade the PvP weapon you get using the blood tokens.
That's what I did.
I rolling conq WEP and blood token WEP
hoary stone
Yea, I just didn't wanna buy the bloody tokens weapon if I ended up deciding on getting conq
So I bought my trophy belt
With this weeks trophy
torpid roost
also, I know I'm in the wrong channel (wrong discord) for this, but, why are no shadow priests highmountain tauren? Seems like that'd be even more immortal
tame raptor
Manoman arms can crit 230k??
undone pumice
ye
undone pumice
bro he was undergeared by like 10k
raw summit
Fuck em
lucid walrus
is that even possible?
it is now
you can play RMP with any combo of races except drac now
fair tide
wooden grove
the dps life :/
gentle horizon
arms or fury for shuffle?
wooden grove
arms hits harder but is a piece of paper
toxic valley
Piece of paper?
gentle horizon
im not seeing any hitting harder than me at 1700
mild thunder
Anyone playing fury in PvP?
For shuffle, fury is probably better. More sustain, less punishment for mistakes. Both are kinda meh tho
mild thunder
Check pins
vast wren
didnt see for arms
toxic valley
For shuffle, fury is probably better. More sustain, less punishment for mistakes...
Why meh? why meh?
Been playing havoc so far
mild thunder
Neither are close to other top specs
toxic valley
It's fun but kind of miss my war
mild thunder
Id definitely recommend staying havoc over switching to fury
toxic valley
Hahaha
mild thunder
Arms is super fun, but idk why you’d swap from havoc
toxic valley
Yeah it's fun, I'm just new to it, don't know all the CDs and subxh
mild thunder
It’s worth learning, especially since our damage is only getting better. Just remember that you’re not a dh or fury and can’t run behind pillars and be invulnerable
pearl prism
do you lose progression on your professions if you drop them and go back to them in this expansion?
onyx vale
you keep the points you've spend in the talents but lose the rest iirc
vast wren
arms or fury?
pearl prism
if I drop BS and get JC for the neck gems, if I need to go back to B S will I keep all my progressin blacksmithing when I relearn it?
pearl prism
yeah just seeing if someone actually knows though
cause people are craftiung boots and helm then going JKC i think
JC*
cyan heath
Yea I still don’t know which I should play. I’ve done fury only so far til getting full honor set and capped honor/conq just waiting for vault piece
cyan heath
However I feel as fury warrior doesn’t have many hard bursts
mild thunder
Get to dedicate more time to JC
cyan heath
I’ve seen arms recaps where they’ll sit there and mortal strike crit for 200k
I can use all my 1.5m CDs and not hit anything that hard lol
mild thunder
Didn’t varuugh hit like a 110k overpower?
zenith marlin
lmao im fkn slapping now
y tf did I ever
even play fury
when arms is this xd
and this is its underpowered version?
onyx vale
no it's the version with stupid damage thanks to pve buffs that shouldnt have applied to pvp
but butchered defensive kit making it top 3 squishiest spec in the game
you could call it a mongrel arms
probably not underpowered but overall badly designed for pvp
brazen night
if I drop BS and get JC for the neck gems, if I need to go back to B S will I ke...
yes, I've tested this already. You cannot lose your spec progression, even unspent points are retained
tame raptor
Im liking arms but seems like i need a power house of a healer cause the spec is wet paper
brazen night
rE: arms squish, I honestly think if they gave us OG second wind we'd be a bit more sustainable
heal when stunned type thing
tame raptor
Definitely needs quick games as arms compared to fury
I wish both specs used 100% the same stats like some other classes
brazen night
its whateva, gearing is ez this xpac
tame raptor
Not capped conquest pieces lol
You buy or pick one of those for arms or fury youre stuck going to a blue for the opposite spec
onyx vale
well both spec like hast a lot
zenith marlin
now i know why my stupid arms spec didnt work
who cares about silly bleeds
when MS hits 150k
tame raptor
well both spec like hast a lot
One is dom haste one is dom crit,
coral axle
took a whole 9 queues but I got 1800 in SS not having played warrior before this xpack
didnt go dstance once, didnt equip a shield once
just pressed cooldowns and bloodthirst
onyx vale
but not every piece can have crit on it, so if you really want to play both specs you can focus on the hast ones
i don't know how you did that, if i wanted to tag 9 whole solo shuffle it'd take me half the expansion
coral axle
the queues ranged from 5 minutes(!) to 60
coral axle
yeah seems like the move
mild thunder
So, is the pinned arms build the one that slaps?
there are three arms builds in the icy veins guide, all 3 are playable, but MS build is the one with the chunkiest hits
brazen rock
yea isn't dreadnaught getting effectively like a 40% buff?
mild thunder
yup
im most excited for the battlelord buff ngl
it never should've been nerfed below 40%
brazen rock
spec is gonna crank the damage come 10.0.5
brazen rock
ive been playing a bit of turbo and the offheals from enh help a ton
quartz lichen
Do you need to equip a shield as fury this time round?
drowsy wasp
Isn’t enh pretty squishy on itself as well
rough mountain
Is the arms build pinned?
smoky anchor
how do you get trophy of strife?
sharp meteor
World PvP quest from the PvP hall.
It'll be the guy on the left, opposite the bloody token vendor.
mild thunder
Is the arms build pinned?
guides are pinned
blazing portal
Hello, doesn't anyone know how it is with Haste/Mastery for Fury PvP? I've seen some people go full Haste, some people full Mastery and some people with mix and so idk if I should buy conquest items with Mastery or Haste. Any info much appreciated!
sharp meteor
mm mastery feels a bit more go based and haste more throughput and smoothness oriented
a bit of both is nice imo
blazing portal
mm mastery feels a bit more go based and haste more throughput and smoothness or...
thank you!
sharp meteor
there may be like an objectively better one figured out eventually but in sl and now both stats feel decent
crit is probs the least valuable
blazing portal
yeah right now there are many questions - haste/mastery/both for Fury and playing Fury vs Arms as well 😂
harsh forge
the annihilator bloodthirst build feels so nice, shame solo shuffles matchmaking ruins it for me
I can already feel it absolutely clearing in 2s tho
half verge
is it the only build though
question what's everyone running for the 3 pvp talents
i know it's dependent on the team but generally what is everyone's go to
harsh forge
some people run CB afaik
though I feel like you sacrifice the insane self heal for not that much more damage
warbringer slaughterhouse battle trance has been my winning combo
sharp meteor
Bloodrage feels like it's almost always more damage.
If only from ripping off a slow but there's also the bonus rage.
Although I guess odyns/avatar/reck/spear kind of compounds harder with two big charges. Hm.
fickle forge
Winbringer is nice
But I mean +80 rage during Reck, it's pretty nuts too
Free Rampage
sharp meteor
Yeah, plus the off global root break that isn't tied to odyn/ava is nice.
Rip off piercing, frost nova, earthgrab, etc.
harsh forge
I occasionally swap warbringer with disarm if I'm going against a rogue and feel like ruining their day
or rebound if going against an arcane mage
sharp meteor
does surge just 1-bang them lmao
harsh forge
surge makes them wish they didn't target the warrior generally yeah
with frost mage you reflect the spike and it just deletes them instantly lol
haven't seen a single fire mage yet but I figure a reflected pyro would delete one of those too
harsh forge
at least we got a meta where rogues aren't insane for once
fickle forge
What
green wyvern
if they nerf sp and dh
fickle forge
Assassa running rampant
green wyvern
warrior will own
harsh forge
just focus and they crumble unless you're in high rank
fickle forge
RPS goes brrrrr
harsh forge
demo and int will make sure they watch that tone
harsh forge
I've gotten pretty good with storm bolt and los'ing casters thanks to the constant stream of 2400 rating people getting into my low rank solo shuffle games
lean burrow
Till you meet demo+assassa
who do you target against that?
fickle forge
Assassa dmg is unhealable, but at least they can die
harsh forge
pretty much, that's how I rate match up difficulty personally
the faster it can die the more likely I am to focus them first
lean burrow
harsh forge
now that I'm thinking about it a bit more actually idk
guess it depends on how deadly they can be during their invul
spriest and hunter don't scare me
fickle forge
Train them based on their average bench press
harsh forge
ret does tbh
fickle forge
Mage > rogue > lock etc.
harsh forge
ret is scary
shut barn
harsh forge
idk I just don't freak out when I see those 2 on the enemy team
spriest might have high damage but you force the dispersion and they fall apart so quick
stuck karma
@fickle forge you done any solo shuffle? You like it? 
fickle forge
<@278157108791476224> you done any solo shuffle? You like it? <:peepoHappy:67343...
Loving my 90 min Q time
Praise SP meta
lean burrow
who do you target against sp+demo?
green wyvern
SL S1 was more balanced than this
pearl prism
Is there any downside to crafting the infurious boots and helm with blacksmithing, and then dropping blacksmithing and getting JC for the neck gem slots? Or will I need to go back to blacksmithing soon? Do we need to upgrade those infurious pieces soon/next season?
paper wigeon
are we still going for the pinned spear/roar builds?
vestal quail
Yes I’m still using it, I switch it up a bit and drop the move speed node for reduced pummel cd. Also I dropped slaughtering strikes for fresh meat.
I also switch off concussive blows to side arm into melee cleave.
Not saying you should do any of that though as I’m no where near the rank of the people who pin those messages
Does anyone know if tier is going to be a must for fury? I imagine it will change those builds quite a bit to favour more execute dmg and maybe utilise the execute charge pvp talent?
fickle forge
DS might be decent, but it'll have to be playtested to be certain
Fury PvP talents are already limited af cause you want them all
arctic gate
anyone else get rival but didnt unlock the smogs?
kindred viper
happens in solo shuffle often, you just need to win a match at rival
arctic gate
k thanks
lean burrow
I'm so tilted at solo que dhs who just presses W and lines his healer all game and gets 5 wins
||mfw i press my key harder||
lean burrow
oh yeah, sin rogues who use their cooldowns randomly and line healer
yet outdps me
jolly narwhal
anyone got a solid arms build?
dont think one on icy veins is updated for rn. Nothing in the pins
And is rend still not worth taking? See a few people with it
tall umbra
anybody got a pvp build for prot warmode on shenanigans
jolly narwhal
In game I see arms players using a dragon's roar build and a spear build. I feel like spear is op
drifting vine
how important is off hand weapon for fury?
quartz lichen
How long does 60-70 take pvping?
jolly narwhal
I assume frozen dev is the play for arms as well as fury?
played against 5 arms comps in a row to hit my 1800 yesterday on mistweaver. they are poppin off
vestal quail
I don’t think you should use frozen Devo with arms
But def with fury
It does hardly anything when I play arms
vestal quail
anyone got a solid arms build?
Just grab the top ranked players builds from ladder or drustvar or something there isn’t one pinned here
vestal quail
Yea I think that prob is, I spent way too much on frozen tank 3 for my fury conq wep so I ain’t changing it for now 😂
Rank*
jolly narwhal
lol i wouldn't change it either deadass
vague horizon
What weapon enchants do we want ?
tame raptor
Whats the build for arena/solo fury? and if you have one for rbgs too thatd be sweet
hard nacelle
how important is off hand weapon for fury?
main hand is the important one I think, off hand is as important as any other big slot, like pants, chest, etc
Might be wrong but that's what I've been going off of
solemn oasis
What stats are best for fury war in pvp ?
tribal wedge
Haste
tame raptor
wtf is up w solo shuffle i see other dps getting 10-15m queues and im at 30 mins and ive reset twice
fickle forge
dont think one on icy veins is updated for rn. Nothing in the pins
Should be
jolly maple
ooof 4 30 min queues for soloq and 4 games where the healer left
fickle forge
why do you have two names?
Why don't you?
obsidian loom
anyone got a macro for wrecking throw/shattering throw depending on which you have spec'ed?
lean burrow
Why don't you?
lean burrow
anyone got a macro for wrecking throw/shattering throw depending on which you ha...
/cast [known:wrecking throw,@mouseover,harm][known:wrecking throw] wrecking throw; [known:shattering throw,@mouseover,harm][known:shattering throw] shattering throw
obsidian loom
ty ❤️
jolly narwhal
ooo nice ty
obsidian loom
i dont have a rogue
lean burrow
must be someone else then
obsidian loom
idk if its bc i dont have my weapon but pvp's feeling really jank rn
as fury or arms
it could be the unending queues of DK/DH/SP but idk
40 some seconds of blur is insane
sage raptor
idk if its bc i dont have my weapon but pvp's feeling really jank rn
It's because you have no weapon
stoic tide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpPfnHIuyF8 Mbox fight 🙂
vapid ruin
what stats do i go for as Arms ?
lean burrow
crit
paper wigeon
guys how do i even win as fury/healer in 2s it just feels like all the DH/monks just clap me in a few secs and i need atleast 2 gos to even bother them lol
uneven hemlock
Does anyone know if the against overwhelming odds quest bleeds over to the next week?
zenith marlin
I am suprised arms doesnt slap u either
@thick reef VARGAUDRHAGDRG I AM AN ARMS SUPREMACIST NOW
brazen rock
lul
amber harness
torpid roost
I'm a relatively skilled gamer generally, nothing special
but I fucking miss spears CONSTANTLY
like I'm about 90% on heroic leap kicks
and sub-50% on spears
night verge
hey, as arms, crit vers? or haste vers?
zenith marlin
might be ur setup @torpid roost
vestal quail
but I fucking miss spears CONSTANTLY
Only do it after a war breaker root or a storm bolt 5head. When I started doing this i stopped embarrassing myself 😂
zenith marlin
^ this tbh
vestal quail
Worst is when I use my heroic leap at mouse location macro and end up in narnia about 100 yards from a mind games cast
zenith marlin
I am bad at seeing depth so me 2
vestal quail
I’ve been playing 2s with a resto shammy who seems to get a lot of enjoyment laughing at me missing spears and leaping in the wrong direction
torpid roost
lmfao I mean yes I don't often miss on stationary targets but like
what the fuck why is the delay so... wild
then also hitting moving targets seems buggy as shit
like lead the target slightly
spear lands right on their face
no CD walk right out of it
warrior tears
zenith marlin
mouse etc?
lean burrow
I just use @player for spear
zenith marlin
bruh
lean burrow
you use it in stun anyway
zenith marlin
bet ur CR is higher than mine despite @player
torpid roost
lel
sage raptor
ancient aftershock was cool. Miss that little doodad
lean burrow
when would you ever want to aim spear?
zenith marlin
PRIEST MCED ME INTO DC
torpid roost
uh, sorry, player guy
nimble jasper
yeah i mean if he was talking 2s
nimble jasper
you’re only getting one person
unless you actually queue into a healer dps team dumb enough
torpid roost
even with my shit aim and lack of understanding i often get 2 people in it in shuffles
zenith marlin
wtf
Priest MCed me
kept doing stupid walk and jump with my character
Which triggerd the "auto" blizz DC
zenith marlin
Ik what DC it is too
It triggers when u attempt to go trough world, objects etc
Legit like a DC wall thing
Anyway logged in to all my CDs and stompt his ass
nimble jasper
idk how they didnt kill
zenith marlin
my druid is a resto and it was @ start
nimble jasper
but yeah shuffle is a garbage bracket
nimble jasper
79 rounds, 2.1 done
meme mongo game mode
yeah still priest team sucks
if he cant kill a d/ced person
sage raptor
@wheat jay hows survival
zenith marlin
survival hunter?
good only vs arms
XDXDXd
must go arms and not allow him to switch
deft yoke
anyone have a macro for impending victory to just target and hit nearest enemy?
zenith marlin
it wont work
tribal wedge
tab
zenith marlin
tried for a month with death strike
undone pumice
sorta
sharp meteor
does disarm work on ww monk?
It only disables fists of fury.
deft yoke
ah okay
sharp meteor
basically bad pick into ww
sharp meteor
eh it's more that if parry is their only stop to a go where it might be good
i wouldn't pick it in general
similar with surv, bm
actually maybe surv diff now
lean burrow
but fists of fury = parry
they get 4 sec cd reduction for each rsk
can't predict when they will use FoF
torpid roost
disarm is a surprisingly good damage CD in a lot of cases, actually
if you don't need it to peel/save your own ass
can't DBTS while disarmed
can't ER while disarmed
etc etc
formal creek
Disarm used to have an additional text in its tooltip saying disarmed creatures deal significantly less damage etc. Did this imply it reduced their all dmg done or just that they wont be able to use abilities that's why less dmg?
night verge
it reduces dmg done cause of the stats they miss from the weapon
zenith marlin
i used to disarm casters in legion
undone pumice
zenith marlin
fuck
Empyrean Domain
fk it just enough
my EYES T^T
its just the avg 4 pillar map anyway, just remove it pls god
torpid roost
I was gonna say maybe you have some kind of photophobia, but, didn't wanna play WebMD
zenith marlin
ye i got fked up eyes
torpid roost
this is fine (I'm 61)
thick reef
You dont.
hollow smelt
great game
thick reef
Arms is not nor has ever been a dueling sorta class.
zenith marlin
idk in first 10 secs I pop spris all defensives
thick reef
Your a warrior, your strength is how much others can support you
hollow smelt
managed to get priest to 10%
zenith marlin
in another 100 secs I pop again and pri is dead
desert root
does the intervene macro from the pins work? i keep getting a lua error
hollow smelt
its tilting the amount of damage and healing they do
wants me wanna thow my keyboard against the wall
lean burrow
fury?
lean burrow
??
lean burrow
mind games has a cap of damage reverse but idk what it is
hazy isle
coral axle
scales with sp I think, its 34k on my 340 hpriest rn
its around 50% more than the flat dmg
hollow smelt
scales with sp I think, its 34k on my 340 hpriest rn
got hit by 68k mindgames
fun af if you ask me
hollow smelt
i mean yeah i know fury is the gigachad spec now
but ive always been arms person
and had most success with it
coral axle
arms is for the actual chads
hollow smelt
with arms i can sharpen , sweeping strikes and boom 2x ms on 2 targets
as fury its just meh with rampage
zenith marlin
fuck rogues man
absolutely fuck rogues
And I love how they think playing rogue requires "skill"
when they have a CD for any situation
zenith marlin
try nailing a nail without a hammer
torpid roost
use it at the right time? you're basically immortal
versus warriors
lower skill floor, but lower skill ceiling
zenith marlin
well it isnt rocket science to use a CD when the warr is popping everything
torpid roost
sure
zenith marlin
atleast there is like a 30-40 sec grace period b4 their 2nd dodge
thats usually when I kill em
torpid roost
alternatively just vanish and lol at them trying to find you
hollow smelt
@zenith marlin reason i also play arms so i can hit those rats through evasion
watching them in horror panic their brains off
love overpower
hollow smelt
when im on my druid ive always seen rogues press evasion when they are like 25% hp
around those lvls
idk
torpid roost
have to connect to ER heal
forest quest
Is it just me or has fury's healing been reduced way too much?
turbid pecan
any example arms builds someone can share?
forest quest
I die to ele shamans even with full defensives up
hollow smelt
this is what im playing
forest coyote
Should I focus on playing Fury for arenas?
thick reef
Arms needs a healer far more
Fury is generally better for solo que
long shell
I've gotten to 1500s in solos playing fury. Arms is good, has big dam, but you're going to get a lot of heavy targetting in that setting because of lack of defensives, especially in magic heavy comps.
long shell
it does
Warrior is pretty braindead too tho, core rotation for fury and arms is 4 buttons
grand scaffold
Warrior is pretty braindead too tho, core rotation for fury and arms is 4 button...
im not arguing
but rogue does take skill
long shell
didnt think you were
pallid sentinel
rogues and mages gaslight everyone into thinking their classes are hard
long shell
I was agreeing with you actually
grand scaffold
oh
long shell
I was trying to reply to what you replied to
grand scaffold
rogues and mages gaslight everyone into thinking their classes are hard
do you play either past 1800?
grand scaffold
I was trying to reply to what you replied to
mb
pallid sentinel
nope
grand scaffold
im illegally blind
long shell
rogues and mages gaslight everyone into thinking their classes are hard
You can tell the difference between a mage and a good one
grand scaffold
^
long shell
Most run of the mill mages I can roll over
pallid sentinel
press kidney and dps cooldowns. mom get the camera i'm skilling like pikaboo
long shell
press kidney and dps cooldowns. mom get the camera i'm skilling like pikaboo
disarming rogues to watch them REEEEE
turbid ember
press kidney and dps cooldowns. mom get the camera i'm skilling like pikaboo
That's not the hard part about rogue, it's everything leading up to that point
stuck karma
Does assa take more skill than arms?
long shell
Probably
stuck karma
Feels like sub is more skill intensiv
pallid sentinel
running away until cds are up
run in when cds are up and use your instant cc to cross
then repeat
long shell
I mean play fury, unless the rogue has a solid, unopposed rotation on you, you're good
stuck karma
Assa just looks real simple, havent tried it out tho.
long shell
Rogue is more complicated then warrior, for sure, but it's not impposible to pick up.
brazen rock
yes
brazen rock
alot of shoulder effects are gone
turbid ember
Playing Warlock in Wrath was hell in Arena, just the arena prep portion made me want to cry.
hollow smelt
pre gate and stuff
haha
i remmember in mop rushing to enemy lock so he cant cast gate
rip gate entire game
spice hornet
Playing Warlock in Wrath was hell in Arena, just the arena prep portion made me ...
healthstones for whole team, summon diff pets for buffs lke imp fire shield, buffing people with trash buffs
legit takes the whole time
turbid ember
Spellstone as well, I had a pretty decent macro for it that it could apply spellstone smartly and create a new one if needed. So I was able to get most of it done in 30 seconds. I just couldn't be fucked to do the imp shield.
thick reef
Warriors saying any other class is easy is a bit funny
turbid ember
True
hollow smelt
shuffle is broken atm
turbid ember
If you get 1 loss in shuffle you're bad
hollow smelt
i won 4 games in row and i gained 0 rating
5 games in row
like idk wtf is going on
lean burrow
that's weird, I get +2-3 even with 3/6
then get outplayed by dhs skillfully killing my team by lining their healers
hollow smelt
yeah
im on my frost mage winning 3/6
and i gain 0 rating
vs fury and dh comps
fun if you ask me
eager mortar
I hate this game
eager mortar
fury
hollow smelt
ah
undone pumice
I hate this game
noob
hollow smelt
you will get it
dw
funny how 1st week of solo was so easy
i got 1936 on my druid on day 1
same as on my evoker
now i cant even break 1600 on my frost mage
:kekw
hollow smelt
JFC
almost 1000 games
meanwhile i had 43 games played on my druid when i broke 1.800
river river
Would you guys say Arms is better than fury?
thick reef
Arms is better if you have a good healer
hollow smelt
if played right
thick reef
Fury is better if you're solo shuffle or with a bad healer
river river
I was doing double dps 2s
hollow smelt
guys
am i alone having bad mates in solos
and lose
so tilting when you are trying to win and you get a hunter feeding the enemy team for free
lean burrow
so tilting when you are trying to win and you get a hunter feeding the enemy tea...
just support your team
just peel
eager mortar
yeh I believe arms can work with experienced healer but in solo shuffle, it's a gamble
brazen rock
am I giga bad if I can't get 2.4k in shuffle?
4-2 get 5 cr 2-4 lose 50
meme bracket who cares play 3s
river river
If you guys were to say a prio for conquest gear what would that be
grand scaffold
press kidney and dps cooldowns. mom get the camera i'm skilling like pikaboo
ok
get your r1 then
lets see it
turbid ember
Rogues don't get to get away with zug zugging like warriors
turbid ember
Check your warrior privileges :^)
grand scaffold
yeah
that makes sense
but playing them properly isnt easy
i havent gone past 1950
undone pumice
can tell
green wyvern
I had a guy afk all 6 rounds and I lost 100 mmr
brazen rock
focus step kidney big skill
green wyvern
shuffle is a meme
undone pumice
brazen rock
you think rogue is easy too?
i dont think any class in this game is hard
fury is beyond retard proof however
doesn't mean rogue is hard
undone pumice
all i know is rogue is easier than ppl think and no class is acc hard except mby dudu
turbid ember
Wat
lean burrow
i dont think any class in this game is hard
healers seem superhurman
undone pumice
just heal
lean burrow
constantly targeting enemies and allies instead of just enemies?
brazen rock
healers seem superhurman
healers are an exception imo
lean burrow
that's giga brain required
brazen rock
different mindset
undone pumice
constructed alternatively
lean burrow
every single healer is 30+ keybinds
turbid ember
I need to change how I heal in PVP (prevoker) I spend too much time looking at UI instead of the gameplay.
lean burrow
with different macros and separate buttons to target party members
undone pumice
lean burrow
healer = next step of human evolution
turbid ember
mostop macros
Idk if you're just autocorrecting or just new terminology to me
undone pumice
most op
turbid ember
I was thinking mouseover was what you were trying to say
brazen rock
my rdruid uses all 16 of my mmo mouse's side buttons.
with shift mods
after a 2 year break i get hand cramps trying to play it
turbid ember
Next you'll tell me you unbind "C" from the character sheet to use as a rotational button.
lean burrow
real gamers use flight sim joysticks
undone pumice
Next you'll tell me you unbind "C" from the character sheet to use as a rotation...
c for rend
lean burrow
Next you'll tell me you unbind "C" from the character sheet to use as a rotation...
you didn't do that?
turbid ember
How else will I bring up my character sheet to look at my gear score. That's the content baby!
turbid ember
Q,E,R are my primary rotational buttons
raw summit
Q is bait
lean burrow
undone pumice
space q e r f my main rotation
river river
DOest everyone unbind C?
raw summit
Character goes on K
brazen rock
c is for CHARGE
raw summit
C is bladestorm for me rn
river river
Q e r s f t c g h v are all bound
river river
C is leap for me
undone pumice
t for leap cuz t is like anvil and leap look like anvil
turbid ember
space q e r f my main rotation
You unbind space too? You monster
raw summit
Q e r s f t c g h v are all bound
QERTZYXCFVBH
river river
Ti sfor trinket
raw summit
R is execute
undone pumice
shift space for jumpage
river river
R is also my execute!
undone pumice
mouse4 for mount for me
raw summit
Control space is tmog mount
turbid ember
R execute master race reporting in
undone pumice
alt q for cancel bs
river river
Tilde key does what for yall
raw summit
Not keybound
undone pumice
Tilde key does what for yall
open macro menu
river river
Stance swap is mine, between defensive and beseker
turbid ember
Mount :^)
plain lynx
Do racials matter in pvp?
turbid ember
open macro menu
Bruh
undone pumice
shift f5 for extra action button
raw summit
/m for macros or weirdo
river river
Q is Reckless, Shift Q is avatar
undone pumice
shift t colossus smash
raw summit
C1 zerk Shift C howl
lean burrow
tilde is perfect for heroic throw
river river
F for yall?
undone pumice
shift e is kick
turbid ember
V is kick
lean burrow
Q is kick
river river
Kick is mouse button for me
raw summit
V is spear rn
undone pumice
v for gunga ginga macro
river river
V is also my spear
turbid ember
F1 is my spear
raw summit
Stances
undone pumice
e for slam as fury and op as arms
river river
I am very happy so many of you use similiar binds as me
Ive been called crazy for all my binds
undone pumice
q for mortal stirk
turbid ember
What about mouse wheel up/down? Mine is heroic leap and charge respectively
undone pumice
mwheel up bitter imunity, mwheeld own sweeping strikes
river river
I hate mousewheel I dont bind it
raw summit
Ive been called crazy for all my binds
All fun and games till you realize i got healthstones on alt W
turbid ember
What????
river river
I dont like my mouses wheel
undone pumice
i love my mouse wheel
mousewheel press for disarm
shift mousewheel press for critter kebab
g for roar/spear
river river
T for trinket, shift T for other trinket
undone pumice
t for leap shift t colossus smash, alt 1 for trinket, 1 for other trinket
alt 2 impending victory
turbid ember
Key bindings are like handwriting apparently
raw summit
Any Shift U cloak enjoyers
undone pumice
shift u for hivemind
turbid ember
I do a bastardized cursive, letters are written normally but I never really lift the pen from paper so you'll see the pen drag marks
undone pumice
i was last generation of kids to learn cursive in school
learn is a strong word tho
turbid ember
"You need to learn this, it's a valuable life skill. How will you be able to sign legal documents?"
undone pumice
i wil simply write my name in all caps on the paper
what are they gonna do, not take my signature?
turbid ember
"Sorry sir, your signature wasn't on our approval list"