and has more stops for your goes
#pvp
nimble jasper
hot solstice
At least facing sub priest is interesting as arms
hot solstice
Test of ur game knowledge
nimble jasper
to be reckful clones
sub hpriest was infinitely harder than assa with any healer
on pirate
hot solstice
I really don’t like DF sub…too long cd on dances
nimble jasper
thats….proper design
if you unironically think dance should be up every stun dr you are cooked
hot solstice
And new rm’s… arcane damage nuts got -150 k through parry with single barrage
hot solstice
I am just telling it’s hard to tell now where damage is coming from…new exp stuff
Need to learn all changes
nimble jasper
last i tested df sub you still have dance too often
hot solstice
They have kinda sustain damage build now
With that shadow damage rupture
Anyway… u keep trinket for blades and u r fine
hot solstice
Ofc depends on if blind bomb duel where used
And if u have healer who can save u through duel or bomb
leaden lynx
fun fact, like 2% mastery for arms only gives like 10 more deep wound damage
craggy socket
bro fuck rogues healing in stealth
eye needs to change or rogues shouldnt be able to get to full
nimble jasper
1v1 matters
spice hornet
bro fuck rogues healing in stealth
Their healing and move speed is too high
The one thing I miss about wrath is bad rogues actuslly die and they have 0 healing
uneven turret
how do u guys farm primal chaos fast?
opaque quarry
What wep enchant do y'all pref? Kind of wanna stick w/ Sophic but for the conq wep, idk. Haven't tried Frozen to see if its worth it over Sophic in dmg for PvP.
kind fog
so am I stupid or I can't find an haste weapon for fury at the vendor
opaque quarry
so am I stupid or I can't find an haste weapon for fury at the vendor
For Honor or Conq?
kind fog
Conq
opaque quarry
There is none.
kind fog
Oh okay
opaque quarry
Vers/Crit or Vers/Mast
kind fog
thank you
torn granite
fury pvp dam feels like a wet noodle compared to monk/dh
I'm feeling the same way, all of a sudden I can't kill anything first since tuesday
frosty eagle
yep feel like imma start my solo shuffle climb over on arms lol
torn granite
I just started doing that yesterday, feels pretty decent so far
frosty eagle
I don’t get why it feels weaker though, fury didn’t get any pvp dmg nerfs?
obsidian loom
probably gear scaling for other specs
onyx vale
The one thing I miss about wrath is bad rogues actuslly die and they have 0 heal...
what about wrath whirlwind and bladestorm
onyx vale
I don’t get why it feels weaker though, fury didn’t get any pvp dmg nerfs?
fury sustained damage was already low, people just didn't realise 100% of fury's pressure came from overtuned 40% ms
people in this discord telling me fury was a high sustained dps spec
life is good
lucid walrus
fury no longer able to basically halve the target's healing received as long as they're connected --> "damn dude i can't kill anything"
hollow lintel
Fury is dogwater. Even if its more viable than arms
onyx vale
people were just delusional about fury's sustained damage
2 seasons of retarded shadowlands fury probably didn't help
hazy skiff
you do use
hollow mist
hey guys, can we only get 8 trophies of strife per week?
via the quest in the adventure log?
whole condor
arms feels strange
craggy socket
arms does feel clunky
obsidian loom
hey guys, can we only get 8 trophies of strife per week?
Seems about it yea
hollow mist
Seems about it yea
alright ty
hollow mist
tysm!
lucid walrus
first time?
wooden grove
Next he’s gonna fight two warlocks, and an s priest in shuffle
It was a bad time indeed
onyx vale
its nice to see all those people discovering their deep passion for shadowpriest
they must really enjoy the gameplay
proud jasper
vers/crit or vers/mastery conquest weapon?
craggy socket
how do i beat caster comps as ret/warr
wooden grove
It’s just a bad time
onyx vale
vers/crit or vers/mastery conquest weapon?
mastery if fury, crit if arms
spice hornet
what about wrath whirlwind and bladestorm
You don’t really ww in wrath it’s just overpower rend ms
proud jasper
mastery if fury, crit if arms
💪
onyx vale
very juicy
spice hornet
It was juicy in tbc
ancient dirge
Are you telling me arms hasn’t gotten it’s big buff yet but people are swapping to it
🤔
onyx vale
arms got like 50% more damage on ms in pvp
not big enough?
meanwhile fury went from best ms in the game to worst, 33% less sustained healing, warpaint nerf, ofc people are going to jump ship
all of that and the issue of arms being the most fragile spec in the game still hasn't been addressed
actually it might be more than 50% mortal strike damage, the pvp buff alone was 42%
add on that the multiple ms buffs for pve, the general buff and the tier set
deft yoke
Hey
Just hit 70 on warr, what is currently the best spec for pvp?
bright stream
Hard to tell. Fury is easier, Arms is getting stronger each balance change.
Imo of you're gonna do solo shuffle it wont matter much - but Id lean towards fury. If you're going to do constructed 3s teams Id lean towards arms.
deft yoke
Dmg wise arms is better but easier to kill?
bright stream
It's less about the damage profile and more about the survivability and other tools.
Damage profiles seem similar to me though - though I havent seen or played much arms this season yet.
Arms needs a healer strapped to it in a way that fury doesnt.
deft yoke
Ahh, I see
bright stream
If you dont have a pref for either spec - go checkout muds and bahjeeras streams to see if you'll like arms.
proud shell
I take it you want to go 2h fury right?
is SMF even sstill a thing im just goofin around in some pvp right now normally just prot
wooden grove
I keep hearing whispers of a daggers fury build but idk
craggy socket
do you guys use slam as fury as annhilator build?
onyx vale
yes, very rarely
when you run out of bloodthirst, execute and don't have enough rage for rampage
bright stream
usually a 7% dps loss at equal ilvl and it costs a talent point
Earlier in the xpac itll sim closer to 3-4 % dps diff, like it did in Slands. Still bad though.
onyx vale
my bad, 3/4% is probably a lot more acceptable for people who do more casual content
still wish it was a transmog option
steep inlet
So happy to see the reactions to the warmode website
Twitter
But i have a special one for you guys
this guy can’t even see the difference between fury and arms
with his phone screenshot
onyx vale
the constant damage of fury, the phone screenshot, the wrong spec, the fact that warrior was clearly in burst with spear
lean burrow
https://twitter.com/taljjw/status/1606338687591223305?s=46&t=ObAOphK7cEn1mhM14IQ...
fucking fury warriors, stop being OP!
onyx vale
this tweet is a work of art
onyx vale
fucking warriors
they ruined warrior
" hur hur hur arms is a slow spec, waaaaa i can't play with focused rage it's too hard plz blizzard nerf "
" i wanna have 30 apm and 2 spells cuz arms is about being SLOW "
wheat jay
" hur hur hur arms is a slow spec, waaaaa i can't play with focused rage it's to...
Focused rage playstyle was the peak of warrior
Nothing will come close
plucky juniper
Using threatplates, got pets nameplates turned off, is it possible to add somehow Psyfiend so i can see it healthbar and target is easily?
sharp meteor
Yeah, just write a custom thing and you can have it look however you want.
I had mine be 250% the size, flash and be somewhere between pink and purple in color.
gloomy river
sharp meteor
b tier spec
sharp meteor
33% nerf to bt
wheat jay
33% nerf to bt
33% nerf to bt healing*
shadow flower
guys in the end what items stats we prioritize for weapons, crit/vers or vers/mastery ?
sharp meteor
average mage player
i think me killing him in opener as rmp a few seasons ago made him roll off mage for the expansion
brazen rock
just give mages back deep freeze so they stop whining for an expac or two
-50% dmg aura nerf when playing with rogue to compensate
fair tide
I agree, give them deep freeze so I can reflect it
spark grotto
is coaching ever worth it? looking to shortcut my learning experience and wondered if its a viable option
ripe widget
what are the enchants to go now for fury?
steep inlet
Fucking mages
mild thunder
i think me killing him in opener as rmp a few seasons ago made him roll off mage...
The funniest part is how much stuff he said is actually just wrong - mages have 2 casts of frost nova to compensate for so many melee having root breaks. So we can’t just break it before it’s off CD
Dk’s deaths advance was never the unique exception. Paladins have had freedom since classic and warriors have had bladestorm since wotlk and rogues have had cloak since whenever that was a thing
Actual moron
coral orchid
So arms or fury for pvp spec solo shuffle ? 😄
(Considering it's my first time as war dd)
graceful ginkgo
4 Arms top 100 Solo, 0 Fury
muted mantle
fury has more self sustain than arms
but arms is better with a good healer
btw anyone else stuck in mmr hell?
droped from 1,7k to almost 1,4k
and losing mmr despite winning 4+ rounds
onyx vale
holy shit mage players are so disgusting
spark grotto
is there a good big MS build for 2s currently?
stuck karma
warped warren
warrior
spark grotto
i mean what am i supposed to do but play 2s haha
analog cloud
hello, i started playing pvp with the warri as fury. now i can't decide if i should play raging blow or innihlator build. what is the advantage of each build?
mild thunder
hello, i started playing pvp with the warri as fury. now i can't decide if i sho...
rb build - more damage, less survivability
bt build - slightly less damage, a lot more self-healing
analog cloud
rb build - more damage, less survivability
bt build - slightly less damage, a lo...
what does mean BT ?**
quick nimbus
i play with a disc. played fury but i lack burst a little bit. is there a good arms build i can copy to try out?
warped warren
what does mean BT ?**
beta
mild thunder
what does mean BT ?**
Bloodthirst
Bloodthirst build, annihilator build - same thing
mild thunder
my your christmas presents be arms buffs
I sent my buffs wish list off to Santa last week, here’s hoping 
Bt is better in pretty much everything
analog cloud
i tried a bit BT build but it feels sometimes i have nothing to press, feels weird
mild thunder
All you do is rampage > BT x3 > rampage > repeat
analog cloud
ok thx
tribal wedge
and in case if you have nothing to press --> slam but it is rare
analog cloud
and in case if you have nothing to press --> slam but it is rare
yea i use slam or whirlwind as filler
analog cloud
i played some BG's
pearl prism
Do you arms players, in your opening burst, delay using Sharpen Blade? to wait for a 2 stack of overpower? OR do you guys use Sharpen Blade on a non-buffed MS early just to get the 50% MS effect applied early?
tribal wedge
don't use sharpen when the guys is full life
pearl prism
fair, so you sit on it
However, in 3s you might be able to kill someone in the opener if you use it
but yeah thats rare
tribal wedge
mmh, most of class has immune or something they can't be killed early so idk
and you mostly try to CC healer inthe opening so sharpen lose value
pearl prism
thats true
thick reef
Curious now, what ar people running for arms?
pearl prism
I guess in solo shuffle ur probs not doing a cc chain on healer in opener
tribal wedge
sharpen best value is when the healer want to top his dps, so i use it when the focus is at like 50% or under
pearl prism
Yeah I think thats correct
kindred flame
is the elite conquest gear available? obvs ik where the vendor for the weapons are, but i have the armor unlocked, just no clue where to buy
kindred flame
didnt even look tbh
hot solstice
I wonder if 10.0.5 new slam talent will make it usable
hot solstice
60%+30%+30% and extra 22,5% crit chance with talents
Well ull get free points from tree rework
mild thunder
Yea, like I said - 4 talent points to make it do less than an ms… definitely not worth
You have to sacrifice way more useful stuff in the class tree to take the slam talents
hot solstice
I just hope u will be finally able to kill some totems with it
mild thunder
You already can..?
thick reef
Just go fury
mild thunder
No 
thick reef
🐸
worn flame
Any links to arms builds?
mild thunder
Check pins
thick reef
Pins has fury and prot
worn flame
yep 😛
deft yoke
What conquest weapon should I buy with conquest for fury warrior?
deft yoke
Alright, thanks
Im 1 week behind on vault since I hit 70 yesterday on this char. Do you think I should buy weapon today or wait?
worn flame
either wait or gamble
deft yoke
Im getting 2 polearms right? So its just good if I get one in vault ?
deft yoke
Those are crit verse though
brazen rock
Play arms.
tribal wedge
Play arms.
good take
mild thunder
Pins has fury and prot
Scroll down the pins and there’s guides
deft yoke
Whenever I play against arms on my other char, they die so fast
thick reef
Eh, I'm iffy on icy-veins after seeing some of their guides mentioning abilities their talents didnt include
mild thunder
The guides are literally written by Kargish in this channel
If you have an issue with the guides, take it up with him
I hear he loves constructive criticism
scarlet barn
https://twitter.com/tromafr/status/1606333820843819009?s=46&t=ObAOphK7cEn1mhM14I...
Well done mon ami
quaint snow
finally hit 1850 after big rage yday, i know its bad but atleast the elite set xD
grand scaffold
quick question
with annihilator some guy said that smf was better than tg is that true or false
apparently skill capped says the same thing
grand scaffold
I hear he loves constructive criticism
😂
undone pumice
with annihilator some guy said that smf was better than tg is that true or false
retarded
grand scaffold
😂
limber wagon
anyone remember a weakaura from SL which made sounds when enemy used certain abilities? not the thing that announces everything, like a ding when there's a hunter trap etc
undone pumice
mes wa pack
bold stone
Had some questions about arms pvp, is bladestorm better used as a cc break or offensively during a burst window?
tribal wedge
depends if u'r running unhinged or not
bold stone
I am
barren crane
Had some questions about arms pvp, is bladestorm better used as a cc break or of...
Use during burst window to immune disarm and stuns
mental knoll
I did a solo shuffle round and bounced from 1400 rating to 1700 rating after the match. I did not get the elite gladiator appearance for chest or girdle. Is this bugged or has this happened to anyone else?
steep inlet
troma ty for that nice wpvp site
with pleasure
royal rose
I did a solo shuffle round and bounced from 1400 rating to 1700 rating after the...
You have to get 1800.
steep inlet
we worked hard on it, before even DF release
tribal wedge
you have to do a win at the good rank
foggy plover
Do y'all just run Bajheeras PvP build on Fury? I was looking for some builds and wowhead PvP build just looks wrong.
tribal wedge
check the pin
foggy plover
Ahh was looking for the pins. Totally missed them thanks
royal rose
i thought 1800 was for helm and shoulders?
Oops, my selective reading lol
civic storm
Hey guys my mate swapped from ret paly and is leveling his fury warrior after seeing me pump out dmg tonight in arenas on my fury.. is double fury even slightly viable for 2s ?
Or should I let him enjoy some pain train and swap to like DH for a little bit ?
He can’t pump out much dmg on ret paly so that’s why he’s swapping, is ret trash right now ?
spark grotto
does anyone have a stance dance macro for fury?
deft yoke
#showtooltip
/cast Berserker Stance
/cast Defensive Stance
this is just to swap between them with 1 button
idk if thats what you mean
turbid ember
One is pinned
late nacelle
Tbh
Saying annihalator is better on smf
Than tg
Is facts
Its just that overall dmg is lower
But annihalator dmg specifically
spark grotto
#showtooltip
/cast Berserker Stance
/cast Defensive Stance
yeah exactly ty
late nacelle
Is higher on smf
turbid ember
That makes sense
late nacelle
But... its the highest on dagger smf
Also that 20% attack speed in class talent tree is super important if u gonna play that way
craggy socket
zero tuning this week
looks like were locked into this meta for the season
better be a dk/dh/shadow/lock
deft yoke
warriors complaining about their class? really
turbid ember
Run 1h then weapon swap to 2h for rampage then back
craggy socket
warriors complaining about their class? really
Who let the noob in
deft yoke
Los ur the noob in the mage disc
late nacelle
Run 1h then weapon swap to 2h for rampage then back
Is this a thing? If so... very huge brain
turbid ember
Warriors don't need shields, it's the healers fault
deft yoke
Okay boomer
craggy socket
oKAY BOoMeR
turbid ember
Everyone who plays wow is a boomer
late nacelle
With no ignore pain available anymore
I feel shield block greatly improves our survivability vs phys comps
Probably wouldnt even be a bad idea getting a conquest one sooner than later
tranquil raven
What arms build do you guys recommend to play with a rsham in 2s? Do some work better than others?
undone pumice
prob the big bang boom build
late nacelle
What arms build do you guys recommend to play with a rsham in 2s? Do some work b...
I am sad to inform you that you're about to attempt one of the worst 2v2 comps in the game
Got 2300 in 3s
Cant get past 1700 in 2s
With that exact comp
Shammy heals very poorly with dampening coupled with arms being fairly squish
We've basically reverted into shammy going full dmg and stacking for link if they dont die its gg
Trying to outheal is not doable and you'll have to be a movement lord to survive anything
tranquil raven
Tyty
late nacelle
Just gotta peel for u shammy vs stuff like dhs ferals assa/sub rogues etc
He gonna struggle a lot
So intervene disarms rally etc
finite shoal
@quick carbon can u share ur arms talent page?
quick carbon
BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSSkQIpVSSAAAAAJEJJQCQENkkAhiEhEAJRCAAAAAAAAJUSSCAA
mild pier
Mistweaver just cracked me for 118k touch of death lmao
finite shoal
cheers m8
mild pier
Shit made me stand up
finite shoal
Mistweaver just cracked me for 118k touch of death lmao
funniest healer dmg is rsham lightning bolt xd
mild pier
Shits crazy out here
quaint bison
coral axle
funniest healer dmg is rsham lightning bolt xd
Preservation 4pc gonna give them instant cast 20% buffed living flames, that shit is gonna be an instant 100k out of their ass whenever
lavish heron
near delta
I am sad to inform you that you're about to attempt one of the worst 2v2 comps i...
Oh. Was playing arms/rsham 2s with my friend that just finished gearing his toon and it felt horribly scuffed lol
Like he'd just sort of die as soon as anyone looked at him
stuck root
hot solstice
I would even exchange Impending for ignore pain...simply cause it is not reduced by ms
late nacelle
If they reverted dstance to 20 taken 10 dealt that would be enough probs imo
Impending is nice except when deep damp coming in or if u playing 2s cos starts at 30 damp
tribal wedge
If they reverted dstance to 20 taken 10 dealt that would be enough probs imo
more than enough imo, 20/20 would be better
late nacelle
Dont think the dmg malus should be that big, its not like we're pumping dmg as is
brazen rock
If they reverted dstance to 20 taken 10 dealt that would be enough probs imo
20/10 dstance is retarded
people will just sit in it all game.
quick carbon
20/10 d staance is broklen
tribal wedge
dstance need to be a situationnal cd
late nacelle
And you didnt sit in it all the time
brazen rock
ok so we had it so we should have it back?
late nacelle
I want old battlecry
quick carbon
if d stance gets un nerfed it needs to be 20/20 or 20/25
late nacelle
And legion s1 colossus smash pvp talent
late nacelle
Xd
tribal wedge
anyone defending 20/10 d stance
20/10 would probably make us just stay forever in dstance and still dps like crazy
late nacelle
We dont dps like crazy tho
late nacelle
It has consequence
brazen rock
idk maybe its that 0 crit build your doing causing the lack of dps donny
late nacelle
10% and 3% less crit
quick carbon
10% damage loss for a 20% wall
is a no brainer
ur just cooked
not gonna argue over it with u
ur just wrong
everyone here willtell u ur wrong
stark agate
It’s ok to have wrong opinions
late nacelle
Without ignore pain on top of a perma 20 wall i dont see it as problematic, its unexplored territory pretty much
brazen rock
cooked
quick carbon
warrior playerbase as delusional as 2400 solo shuffle gamers telling people to link xp in lfg
late nacelle
Either dstance should be 20 or we should have ignore pain back
Simple as
Personally i like 20 dstance better than spamming ignore pain for rage
zenith marlin
yall mad about perma wall when mf mages perma wall xd
with their 100k prismatic barrier
lean burrow
is it me or there's no point in pressing execute when target is under 35% hp?
on fury
late nacelle
Its good
late nacelle
They have that
lean burrow
bloodbath also seem to hit harder than rampage
coral axle
Does it actually? I was looking at details yesterday and bt was hitting more lol
late nacelle
Exe has mh + oh, no?
near delta
bloodbath also seem to hit harder than rampage
It does. In pve they legit overcap on rage intentionally
lean burrow
stark agate
Bloodbath more better than execute
brazen rock
exe hits like noodle.
lean burrow
late nacelle
Does exe still do 2 hits tho
lean burrow
bloodthirst max hit is higher than execute
stark agate
You use exe when you have no bloodbath or rampage
late nacelle
MH and off hand
late nacelle
If u factor in cshb bt probs comes out on top
coral axle
Makes sense, so it's bb > rampage > exec > bt?
tribal wedge
if think exec still better if you are not focus and don't need the 2% health
but there is also gushing wound so idk
lean burrow
details doesn't show two hits on execute?
so we manually multiply it by 2?
seems like bug
late nacelle
Xd
stark agate
Arms more better I heard
quick carbon
if u want to hit people really hard
if hitting ppl rlly hard makes ur chode rise
then play arms
tribal wedge
Arms more better I heard
questionable
lean burrow
ok, looks like execute actually hits harder than bloodthirst
thick reef
guys what does our rotation look like? Do I just pop all the offensive cd then spam bloodthirst + rampage?
quick carbon
arms will do more damage in specific matchups than fury will
lean burrow
and bloodbath is stronger than everything
thick reef
for fury
quick carbon
just depends on comp
brazen rock
arms will do more damage in specific matchups than fury will
arms cranks in 3s
quick carbon
ya ik
coral axle
if hitting ppl rlly hard makes ur chode rise
This is me every time I burst on arms, it can't be good for my health
brazen rock
idc focus me my sp will solo your whole team
tribal wedge
arms bring more unique things, 50% ms, banner etc
quick carbon
ive been bouncing back and forth between 1 shot spear buil
coral axle
Hit a 190k ms and the pants had to be changed
quick carbon
and unhingedd
thick reef
also u guys think arms or fury is better in bg?
coral axle
Arms is so much more fun in bgs
thick reef
random bg so healers are like non existent
quick carbon
idc focus me my sp will solo your whole team
actually i qued into wpd as frost tsg
andd we won instantly
kekw
coral axle
If you are doing unrated bgs just go arms, you will faceroll
quick carbon
frost dk dam is retarded
coral axle
The random pve geared players in unrated just get freight trained
brazen rock
actually i qued into wpd as frost tsg
i much prefer playing with ret or dk but
just tryna get games in
quick carbon
im kinda waiting for inflation b4 i start qing real games
early ssn qs
r rough
i think tsg is 100% warriors best comp rn tho
quick carbon
why r u so suprisedd
lean burrow
NA?
quick carbon
no1 wants to heal that shit
brazen rock
^
quick carbon
if i played healer and joined a lobby
with a warrior a dh and a rogue
id afk immediately
i dont blame them at all for not playing shuffle
brazen rock
and the warrior is arms
quick carbon
i mean whats the diff
dying to some random monkey hitting 111112111112 or ddying to some random monkey hitting you for a 150k ms
like its the same lvl of annoyance
low wren
yo should i buy the crit vers or vers mast weapon from conquest vendor
woeful solstice
im kinda waiting for inflation b4 i start qing real games
But this is how u git gud
low wren
im fury btw
tribal wedge
yo should i buy the crit vers or vers mast weapon from conquest vendor
mastery for fury
crit for arms
quick carbon
But this is how u git gud
im fine with my skill lvl i got all the achievements i ever wanted from pvp
just not fun to q up early andd struggle to barely be 2k
drowsy wasp
is shuffle rating inflated
What would be your real rating if you are 2100+ in solo shuffle as DH
craggy socket
People leave solo shuffle you still get zero rating
40 minutes
what a fucking joke
brazen rock
What would be your real rating if you are 2100+ in solo shuffle as DH
0 cuz solo is a meme
quick carbon
Thr r rlly ppl wearing elite titles with thr solo shuffle rating egoing other people over their 3s rating 😭😭😭😭
vapid ruin
for example Wrecking throw and shattering
brazen rock
for example Wrecking throw and shattering
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Wrecking Throw] Wrecking Throw; Shattering Throw
lean burrow
the @cursor
[known:W...w,@mouseover,harm][known:W...w] Wrecking Throw; Shatter
wheat crane
I lowkey like the wrecking throw honor talent into warlocks
Completely blows up their shield
I think it does at least
thick reef
i literally got 1.8k on dh just by holding w and doing pve rotation
brazen rock
tip for every dh you face below 2k in ss
fear them asap cuz they insta trink whatever cc they get first during meta
scarlet barn
fear them asap cuz they insta trink whatever cc they get first during meta
Yea how dare you to interupt their glorious go
craggy socket
Theres no reason to play warrior over dh
brazen rock
Theres no reason to play warrior over dh
50% sharpen
not being associated with those degens
tribal wedge
banner
craggy socket
arms feels awful to play imo
tribal wedge
and style
shut barn
Theres no reason to play warrior over dh
There is a reason
craggy socket
Its clunky
craggy socket
fury
drowsy wasp
How big is the arms buff in 10.0.5
shut barn
How big is the arms buff in 10.0.5
A defensive buff will put arms in Low S imo
drowsy wasp
Defensive buff? I thought the big thing is 25-35% mortal strike reset
brazen rock
big thing is 2 free talent points in arms tree and 1 in general.
unhinged + exec precision every spec now
shut barn
Was watching couple of arms streams their offense is big
brazen rock
or drop one of the two and go rend + sks
craggy socket
when does that patch come out tho
brazen rock
for just more buttons to press for dam
likely mid/late jan
it has lots of references to valentines day world event.
drowsy wasp
Blizzard isn’t working over holidays
shut barn
That’s good news
brazen rock
yeah so because it has data referencing a world event happening AT THE BEGINNING OF FEB
it makes sense the release date is BEFORE THAT
foggy hinge
If it’s a big team fight you will die to random aoe unless healed
golden bloom
Hi, why MS applies 50% debuff w/o sharpening? Or it works different on bgs/arenas?
thick reef
If it’s a big team fight you will die to random aoe unless healed
i feel like i die 1v1
brazen rock
Hi, why MS applies 50% debuff w/o sharpening? Or it works different on bgs/arena...
half in pvp.
golden bloom
half in pvp.
thanks
foggy hinge
@thick reef Arms is very bad at 1v1 so that’s probably why
lean burrow
fear them asap cuz they insta trink whatever cc they get first during meta
wrong, smoothbrain on your team will insta break fear
random fractal
how beat spriest
brazen rock
<@456226577798135808> Arms is very bad at 1v1 so that’s probably why
idk i clap kids on the daily
assa rogue about the only thing i wont fuck with open world
undone pumice
assa rogue about the only thing i wont fuck with open world
i fucks with sin rogues on thr daily
rogues dont deserve to complete wqs
random fractal
spriest is the only class i have trouble 1v1
raw summit
Warrior doesnt 1v1
random fractal
and maybe a good rogue
fair tide
Question, so I have the pvp tier chest, and I just got 382 tier gloves but they do not scale up in pvp. Is it worth running those gloves for 2 set, but losing around 28ilvl from not running conq gloves?
as arms btw
random fractal
probably not worth it if your fury
brazen rock
Question, so I have the pvp tier chest, and I just got 382 tier gloves but they ...
nope
fair tide
nope
I wasn't feeling too great about it either, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something
green wyvern
defensively it's nothing
offensively you get executioners precision and maybe fatality alongside unhinged
still tons of damage and zero tankiness
brazen rock
also can take roar in general tree
drowsy wasp
also can take roar in general tree
Doesn’t the same buff apply to fury
Same class tree
brazen rock
the notes are specific to arms.
torpid roost
not worth - I would wonder if a max level Jeweled Signet of Melandrus is worth, though
brazen rock
nope, your dropping over 2% of vers iirc
torpid roost
I'm at vers softcap with it on
don't know how bad the diminishing returns are though
fair tide
whats our best enchant for our weapon as arms?
eager mortar
guys Santa didn't deliver my present, guess wishing for lock nerf is too impossible even for santa
brazen rock
they lost 10% stam and other survive
lean burrow
survive it but then how do i kill it lmfao
sit on priest until he runs out of cds to trade
eager mortar
they lost 10% stam and other survive
ooo is it already in?
brazen rock
ooo is it already in?
iirc it was last tuesday
lean burrow
fuck warlocks
eager mortar
iirc it was last tuesday
Thought new nerf
They didn't need them enough, also they to lower the number of pets jeez
golden bloom
What is the best weapon chant for pvp arms?
Sophic devotion feels like an absolute scum
torpid roost
sophic or frozen devotion, I can't see an argument for any other enchant
vapid ruin
guys what happends to the person that leaves solo shuffle
i'm starting to get tilted
each time i win 5 fucking games in a row a person leaves in the sixth round
mild pier
guys what happends to the person that leaves solo shuffle
They get personally executed by Ion himself
mild pier
Lmao fr
mild pier
Honestly don't know
mild pier
I think they get a leaver penalty but not rating loss. Could be wrong
vapid ruin
i'll give it a try and i'll let u know xD
torpid roost
they lose rating, I think they do get a leaver penalty
torpid roost
honestly think if it happens more than once you should get in a toxic shitbag queue
fair tide
fuck this stupid fucking system
need to lockout people for a week if they leave like that
torpid roost
nah just shunt them into a shitty queue
so they can deal with people like themselves
native current
can't find info but i see tons of people using crafted b oots and helm -- which one should i prioritize? it's so slow to get primals though bgs
vocal vault
not sure if they fix that yet but last week I was getting people to leave and they didn't lose anything just gave the peopple in the match 100 honor and leaver didnt get anything
crimson onyx
Am i too impatient if i spend gold on craft items now that i get back to pvp and have 0 pvp gear? 😄
Got like 382 PvE gear in the meanwhile
vapid ruin
need to lockout people for a week if they leave like that
bro i say give them a fuking 320 hours ban like in league
is it something hard to apply
if the person leaves atleast 5 times in a month he deserves a 4 week ban
foggy hinge
@native current boots give 5% more cc reduction so those I think. You can do elite world quests and they will drop 3 primal chaos each
quaint snow
leavers get 6 losses and deserter buff
gentle depot
solo Q is great for getting quick rival gear on alts
mild thunder
or drop one of the two and go rend + sks
You can get both
Rend + sks, unhinged, exploiter + battlelord
brazen rock
Rend + sks, unhinged, exploiter + battlelord
your skipping something else then or the layout is different then i recall
pretty stupid if we can legit get all that ontop of roar in 10.0.5
gentle depot
pretty pog you mean
mild thunder
You don’t have to take the extra 2 points to get to exploiter and sharpened blades
You can path down from bladestorm to sharpened and then exploiter
The tree is up on wowhead PTR
sage raptor
Wrong
mild thunder
It’s not wrong, you can literally go look right now
brazen rock
45min shuffle ques will do that to a man.
sage raptor
Plz help
mild thunder
You get 4 extra points. 1 from ss, 1 from the node above bladestorm, 2 from the node to get down to exploiter.
1 into unhinged, 1 into rend, 2 into sks
And then I’m pretty sure you have 2 left over, so you can either buff your bleeds up, take fatality, FbV or something else
undone pumice
what religions do diff priest specs represent? disc is obv catholocism
shut barn
That was offensive
soft zodiac
When is next arms buff? 😡
undone pumice
when u do richpiana 8 hour arm workout
sage raptor
what religions do diff priest specs represent? disc is obv catholocism
Protestant
undone pumice
holy?
sage raptor
I figured holy was catholic
soft zodiac
GOOD MORNING GOD DAMMIT
sage raptor
And disc nondenominational
sage raptor
Witchcraft would be more accurate though now that I think about is so probably wiccan
Wouldn't druids be pagan?
sage raptor
Pagan furries 💀💀
undone pumice
helm dot
sage raptor
it's him
grand scaffold
*it's him*
who
undone pumice
do u have crafted 424 helm?
grand scaffold
is the helmet the one that has crit/vers?
undone pumice
yes
undone pumice
boots importanter
grand scaffold
ima get the helmet
that dot is insane
but i dont have the primal chaos for piece #2
undone pumice
boots are 5% cc reduction get boots
undone pumice
if u dont get infurious warboots of impunity already
thick reef
Hey i made crafted pvp gesr and when i shift+mouseover honor gear it all seems worse.
Does honor gesr get an upgrade once you are in a pvp environemnt? What am I missing here?
grand scaffold
if u dont get infurious warboots of impunity already
then what
pine hinge
are we using sophic or frozen dev wep enchants
undone pumice
both good
pine hinge
gotcha, appreciate it
undone pumice
5% more than 10
grand scaffold
does recipe difficulty matter?
thick reef
honor gear in pvp is 411 ilvl
tyvm
grand scaffold
does recipe difficulty matter?
undone pumice
wtf is recipe difficulty
spice moth
Does crafted quality of infurious matter when it’s scales?
proud breach
does recipe difficulty matter?
only for pve
grand scaffold
ok cool
brazen rock
use all t1 mats for pvp crafts.
grand scaffold
t1 is bronze right?
brazen rock
yes
wooden grove
iirc they pop out at t3 with t1 mats im not 100% though
and it doesnt matter either way
brazen rock
the helm has some uses for prot in pve
tribal wedge
yep
grand scaffold
cool
bold stone
What's the idea between going Warlord's Torment vs. Blademaster's Torment? I see different builds pick either
tribal wedge
blademaster's gain value if you playing with unhinged
earnest ginkgo
so regarding the vault system, the great vault. Is it more likely to get the tier set for PvP? Or is it just insanely lucky?
earnest ginkgo
yeah. just wondered if its better to gear tier set pieces from PvP then PvE
wooden grove
earnest ginkgo
I suppose all the gladiator pieces can show up in the great vault too, non tier set ones.
ahh, so apparently tier pieces can also show up in the mythic + system great vault too, if anyones wondering tho
wooden grove
yeah won't make me do dungeons though
visual hedge
I'm really surprised how accessible base line pvp is in this game, grabbed a full honor set enchanted it as per the guide and actually having ...fun...
mild pier
yeah. just wondered if its better to gear tier set pieces from PvP then PvE
I mean if you want your best shot at tier then just fill every vault slot for everything
coral axle
I'm really surprised how accessible base line pvp is in this game, grabbed a ful...
Yeah this xpack is the best yet for that, right now with bg weekend you can get your last 3-4 levels in bgs and ding lv70 with a full honor set. The conq/crafted pieces only give around 10% more stats too, so even a max geared person isn't gonna be much stronger
This is the least gear and grinding dependent I've ever seen wow
high creek
arms damage is like another class jesus
high creek
thats what i played in SL and honestly yes agreed...aoe stun into cds could 1 shot a team...but you also got 1 shot if caught out
spice hornet
Pretty similar
wooden grove
arms/fdk inc
high creek
yea but im bad at wow so id be ok 1 shotting people up to like 2.2k haha
wooden grove
ngl crushing blow build hits like a truck but you lose some of the self heal
at that point might as well play arms lol
rare agate
anyone know whats the Best Enchant for Arms weapon is for PVP, is it the Vers proc one or the Primary Stat one
tribal wedge
sophic one
tribal wedge
you lose agaisnt low mmr buddy
eager mortar
Solo shuffle for you
eager mortar
if you won the a 4th round it would have been 0 points
or maybe you 5 to be 0 point
kek
fair tide
I'm fking tilted
another 3 win loss
lost another 49 points
fuck this game mode
I get shit healers q'd and I have to suffer for it
0mmr healer q'd into 1900 mmr
how tf is this possible?
random fractal
yeah ive noticed one healer wins 6/6 games while the other loses 0/6
and all dps are 3/6
sharp meteor
gg healer diff
golden urchin
what spec do you guys think is best for 2s only?
sharp meteor
not warrior
thorn herald
anyone know whats the Best Enchant for Arms weapon is for PVP, is it the Vers pr...
Frozen devotion
rare agate
Frozen devotion
even over the primary stat one and the vers proc?
wheat jay
brazen rock
what spec do you guys think is best for 2s only?
arms but also not warrior
sharp meteor
i mean you'd think somebody off stun dr and without medallion wouldn't aggro leap in
but then they do and it's like huh
wheat jay
They do, and you're wondering
wheat jay
wheat jay
also a guy who bought glad in sl who had it stripped is now 40% wr in shuffle
Huh
What
Who xD
worthy fern
@thorn herald frozen Devo seemed bad to me
analog cloud
any reason why slaughterhouse sometimes doesnt stack?
brazen rock
it wont apply if a stronger MS is on the target.
sharp meteor
any reason why slaughterhouse sometimes doesnt stack?
It gets overwritten by superior mortal strikes, and as it stacks in small amounts that basically means any ms prevents you from applying slaughterhouse.
brazen rock
if your playing with another MS class just talent out of it.
sharp meteor
So if playing with a ms class or doing bgs then just swap out, yep.
analog cloud
ah ok
brazen rock
play arms for big sharpen
sharp meteor
Big ms rips off small ms and slaughterhouse is a bunch of 3% applications or w/e.
brazen rock
i cracked a rogue in shuffle for a 110k exec followed by a 140k sharpened MS and he raged at me in next round lobby
analog cloud
arms better ?
brazen rock
arms with rdruid or prevoker better
but other healer no
arms needs life support to function
wheat jay
Mortal hitting only for 150k
tight flint
Hi Guys, what gems should I socket on the neck for fury?
thorn herald
<@489847993692848149> frozen Devo seemed bad to me
Idk procs a lot had it crit for 20k
Seems good
hazy skiff
stats for pvp fury?
steep inlet
Check the fakin pins
fair tide
think im going back fury for shuffle
arms feels sort of bad at higher mmr
if your healer isnt good, it's a rough one
gentle depot
arms is like that in any bracket healer fucks up once youre dead
thick reef
I know shuffle isn't real but I'm still playing fury and I out dps most arms I match up against?
thick reef
True
sharp meteor
arms is like an npc in terms of defensives
gentle depot
have yall been playing SkS as arms? or is that build dead
brazen rock
have yall been playing SkS as arms? or is that build dead
dead
tribal wedge
i hated this spec, but i start to like it recently, that shit still deals
gaunt galleon
Me kill target in rbg, what spec kill better 🦧
brazen rock
arms
eager mortar
I just had unpleasant experience with Lock/SP/Evoker
Lock is teleporting all over the place, followed by SP wing him to safety then followed by Evoker flew him to safety
zugzug can't handle
mild thunder
I just had unpleasant experience with Lock/SP/Evoker
is it possible to have a pleasant experience against this comp?
eager mortar
is it possible to have a pleasant experience against this comp?
yes
- if they stand still
- if they die fast
- if they quit
dusk cargo
win 4 rounds and get 6 points how in the actual
zenith marlin
3 DPS VS 3 DPS RITE TF NOW
fossil mortar
Would actually mind that less than tanks coming back 
thick reef
Is there any point in ranking up honor gear if you have separate gear for pve? Looks like no matter it just scales to 411 at max rank?
sharp meteor
Nope.
thick reef
What about the conquest stuff? Same deal?
fossil mortar
Second verse same as the first
thick reef
Damn they made it pretty easy to gear up this time. 👏
fossil mortar
inland heart
for fury, should i alwasy use honor gear, or is drakebreakers better in some pieces?
onyx vale
there is literally no point in 3 rando dps vs 3 rando dps
you will just focus the guy that doesn't have an immunity and pop him like a balloon
coral axle
yeah 3v3 dps would be absolutely terrible
playing warrior and getting opened on by a dh+feral+rogue team would be so much fun and skill testing
heavy cairn
anyone got a defensive stance/shield swap macro?
inland heart
for fury, which conquest weapon the crit/vers sword, or the vers/mast spear?
fresh frost
So im new to warrior and was scrolling through this discord..why do people think warr in 2s que is garbage? All i do is get absolutely rolled by other warrs when i que against them whether i play ranged or melee its always the same unless im playing a bad warr of course
thick reef
Warrior in general is garbage
brazen rock
Warrior in general is garbage
naw
brazen rock
for fury, which conquest weapon the crit/vers sword, or the vers/mast spear?
mast spear
brazen rock
So im new to warrior and was scrolling through this discord..why do people think...
what cr? good rdruid/arms teams will manhandle you if you aren't playing at a semi decent level
fresh frost
Im mostly having an issue with fury warrs with any comp and my partner and i are 1400 cr
full quiver
Feral can out dam fury and kite
sharp meteor
So im new to warrior and was scrolling through this discord..why do people think...
Because it is.
torpid roost
our damage is fine, we can't kite for shit and we have no hard immunity/extreme survivability
we're a plated punching bag
sharp meteor
God tier warriors getting whizzled on by Rogues/DHs at like 2k
fresh frost
The constant leaps and charges and slows/stuns can’t possibly get away
wooden grove
Ngl if the warriors you’re facing are effectively using leap/charge while also maintaining hamstring in 1400, they’re just passing you on the way to greener pastures
gentle horizon
any tierlists for pvp?
brazen rock
any tierlists for pvp?
assa/dh/dk S for melee
brazen rock
Ngl if the warriors you’re facing are effectively using leap/charge while also m...
buddy i landed a driveby pummel at 1550 on my alt and the healer was so mad in lobby next round
everytime i stare at my dh at char screen i just remember moments like that.
torpid roost
The constant leaps and charges and slows/stuns can’t possibly get away
now I know you're trolling
hamstring is literally the worst slow in the game
tranquil hemlock
You are 1400 cr no wonder you are getting dumpstered
fresh frost
You all must be having a long con where you say the class is ass so you dont get nerfed
tranquil hemlock
Again you are 1400
torpid roost
trololololing is a art
torpid roost
fair
torpid roost
go play a warrior to 1600 and get back to me
fresh frost
Im 1400 but that doesnt change the fsct that your class is very good
torpid roost
do you have a warrior
tranquil hemlock
😬😬😬😬
brazen rock
lmao 1400 cr
fresh frost
Im@leveling him so i can have someone else come to this discord and bitch about it
brazen rock
talking
torpid roost
"no but I don't need one to know blah blah"
okay, yeah, just queue
and show us how it's done, you'll be 2600 in no time
sharp meteor
Fury is like the ultimate noob crusher.
torpid roost
Fury is actually great at low CR
tranquil hemlock
Yeee that was his point lol