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vagrant sorrel
undone pumice
hardstyle + fury wombo combo
turbid ember
Nah, you just waiting for the 1 queued healer to finish their game
late nacelle
at this point
i feel like
leveling a new warrior
might the best choice
basically need to 6-0 3 games in a row to fix mmr
clear pine
haha i have the same problem
but i accept it as it is.
mmr with other spec is still fresh if you havent played right?
vagrant sorrel
think so ya
worthy fern
I accidentally left a game at like 1500
Next game I had 1950 mmr
Gained 350 cr for going 4-2
Next game I’m 1750 mmr
Mmr in shuff makes no sense
tranquil hemlock
@late nacelle I had the same issue luckily I got through it but it’s not a good time
My internet died one game and that was the start of that lol
I also have a shit load of games played
unreal pond
as fury with the pinned build what pts do u change for imp ww?
also if theres no bubbles for shattering throw wheres a good place for that point
amber harness
can someone post me wrecking throw macro
manic tree
for fury pvp, do we take the vers mastery weapon or the crit vers one?
surreal schooner
Do i buy the conquest two hand sword or polarm?
brazen rock
Do i buy the conquest two hand sword or polarm?
polearm is only option for fury and mastery is fine for arms.
if your an arms chad, sword.
broken scaffold
whats up guys
any pro warriors willing do VC with me and help me out with some overall training
eager mortar
you just need more SS with 6-0
spice hornet
past 2400 mmr in shuffle is legit only dh/spriest/evoker/dh and usually dk/lock, the variety is so awful
late nacelle
idk
i feel like a wet noodle
compared to dhs
ferals
idk
what even is warrior
feels like half games are just pure confidence
if i think i will kill em
i will
if i look dmg meters
its doomed
green wyvern
balance is awful
late nacelle
only play
green wyvern
it's like sl s1 but arms is now dh
late nacelle
is to fish for stacked MS crit
green wyvern
and fire mage is now sp
late nacelle
into exe crit
these other classes dont run out of steam
my dots tick for nothing
maybe prot warr is the play
coral axle
I do think that classes that are more self-sufficient like dh and lock will do better in SS but yeah
so many bad specs rn
wheat crane
I dk i feel like its close
Like if they revert d stance nerf
Pretty sure we jump back to s tier
thick reef
Hey trying to get into pvp and going Fury. Is there still such a thing as pvp gear, and if so is there a good way to go about getting started. I remember back in WOTLK days there was resilience. Is there something similar?
thick reef
Is there crafted gear to get started or just go in with pve stuff?
white briar
yeah, you can go get some crafted stuff, not sure what the cost is
thick reef
Ok thanks
coral axle
Is there crafted gear to get started or just go in with pve stuff?
yeah the crafted gear is great, its like i398
can be like 20k for a whole set tho depending on server
turbid ember
You get it crafted or usually marked up on the AH. Full set cost me ~20k gold for my warrior
turbid ember
Yeah if you wanna be miserable in BGs
wheat crane
You get like 1 pc per bg win
quaint snow
-48 in my latest shuffle...sometimes i just wanna smash my keyboard
ancient dirge
am I getting trolled by not getting the vers, crit conquest weapon as furry
quaint snow
Demo, DH, DK,
wheat crane
Fury goes polearm arms greatsword
turbid ember
As long as it's the strength spear you're fine
turbid ember
As fury yes
late nacelle
whats up with all these windwalker monks thinking they can pop karma and facetank everything?
like 90% of the time they get instagibbed and die in 1 second
wheat crane
Arms like 12%+ haste then rest crit
wheat crane
Fury haste > mast > crit
vapid ruin
so mastery wpn is better
wheat crane
Yea
The polearm is main stat versa too
You can use it as arms too its not a huge deal
brazen rock
Mastery still gud for arms, its not like crit for fury
coral axle
whats up with all these windwalker monks thinking they can pop karma and facetan...
they are living 3 xpacks in the past
undone pumice
mastery is good for burst builds on arms
late nacelle
"someone has declined, you've been put the the front of the queue" ah yeah sure, another 30 mins then
brazen rock
crit doesn't magically become worse the more you get
amber harness
cant take pvp pieces
cuz pve
and blizzard sucks huge balls with its design
so 0 set for me
splitting it is fine for me
but fucking the other over isnt
late nacelle
crit doesn't magically become worse the more you get
it actually does
same as every other stat
brazen rock
not to an extent that youd ever avoid taking crit on gear.
sorry, it gets very slightly worse the more you get it past the softcaps. happy?
late nacelle
if i can have 43% crit chance with 0 crit on gear i will be avoiding crit like the plague
late nacelle
i will
amber harness
I think crit is most important, it is best stat pve wise too and for burst during spear also the most important stat
1 more ability in spear because of haste isnt as good as the other abilites critting and also critting for more
brazen rock
guess you know something literally every multi glad war doesn't lmao
quaint snow
FML IM GETTIN TROLLED IN SS. depressing
late nacelle
u want big number
plush cobalt
FML IM GETTIN TROLLED IN SS. depressing
Same… had two separate people just AFK my last two matches
quaint snow
i know i suck but i was so close to 1800 atleast, but in two shuffles i got trolled so hard and now im back at 1650..........
quaint snow
thanks man its just frustrating as fuck when you lose to backpeddle DH 😦
quaint snow
more dps i know..
finally was at a point where my MMR was lower than Matchmaking MMR and now back to the dumpster where i need 6 wins to atleast gain some rating
ill stop mimimimi now
urban skiff
mild thunder
some rando retard on skyholds pvp channel has the real high iq plays
Toxic 
brazen rock
you know it
mild thunder
amber harness
cant decide on which arms build to play, top arms warrior all are completely different
safe harness
do fury and arms use the same gear pieces or do you need diff stats, just to know if I could just swap between both on main or create another lvl 70 just for arms then with specific gear
amber harness
one go exe precision, other go bleed bleed, other go unhinged/batltelord with blademaster torment
late nacelle
go zugzug
urban skiff
cant decide on which arms build to play, top arms warrior all are completely dif...
This is a blessing.
It means you can pick whichever you like more
amber harness
This is a blessing.
It means you can pick whichever you like more
for me it isnt, I can never decide
I dont like bleed but I think it it is very strong
urban skiff
if they seem equally strong, look at whether they play different comps
like if bleed can only play with spriest / feral / assa / afflic etc
no point settling into one spec if it means your pool of potential partners is 1/3 of the other
eager mortar
who's stealing all DH/healers for their comp, leave them I need them
gentle horizon
brazen rock
yes
wind crest
Hello Best race for pvp ally vs horde ? pls
brazen rock
Hello Best race for pvp ally vs horde ? pls
alliance, gnome/human/dark iron/night elf
horde, orc/tauren
it doesnt really matter, pick the model you like the most.
regal cradle
is the fury rotation in pvp the same as in pve where you do rampage > BT > BT > rampage
undone pumice
thundercleave ssems pretty bad but enha seems giga bad
regal cradle
or do u spam rampage as much as possible
undone pumice
is the fury rotation in pvp the same as in pve where you do rampage > BT > BT > ...
rampage biggest damage
bloodbath second biggest damage
hoary estuary
thundercleave ssems pretty bad but enha seems giga bad
What did you see was bad about it
undone pumice
slam third biggest damage
sharp meteor
thundercleave ssems pretty bad but enha seems giga bad
thunder is warr ele
undone pumice
What did you see was bad about it
just feels kinda shit to play imo
brazen rock
Need some tips
peel for your ele all game
sharp meteor
turbo seems
hoary estuary
😭
brazen rock
hes bad
sharp meteor
ehh
undone pumice
thunder is warr ele
ye he asked for help with arms ele which is thunder
undone pumice
ele is good af
brazen rock
enh claps but it gets clapped
undone pumice
arms is pretty good
brazen rock
ele is insane if it can cast
regal cradle
rampage biggest damage
thats the same as iin pve but there u make use of the procs and cb twice into rampage again
but so in pvp u just spam rampage
undone pumice
so just give your enemies as much aids as possible and disrupt their entire life ig
brazen rock
arms/ele works because ele pulls alot of focus off arms and lets arms do its thing while also peeling
undone pumice
thats the same as iin pve but there u make use of the procs and cb twice into ra...
there are no procs
everyone plays annihilator
hoary estuary
So how do I peel say a walking dead comp off ele
regal cradle
there are no procs
yes i know but im talking about bloodthirst "procs" instead of cb in pvp situation
sharp meteor
yes i know but im talking about bloodthirst "procs" instead of cb in pvp situati...
rampage gives 2 bloodbaths
brazen rock
So how do I peel say a walking dead comp off ele
disarm dk, bolt monk on his fists, fear if they trinket
regal cradle
ah ye so what i mean is. if you have bloodbaths ready
brazen rock
they'll blow movement to get out of static totem, spear them after.
regal cradle
do you still press rampage
undone pumice
rampage best
regal cradle
or bloodbaths into rampge
hoary estuary
disarm dk, bolt monk on his fists, fear if they trinket
Ahh okay
sharp meteor
i usually dump the bloodbath first unless i know im not being put in cc because heaven knows rampaging then getting cc'd by anything feels dreadful
undone pumice
and replenishes ur bb
late nacelle
ah yes
sharp meteor
or gonna lose uptime
late nacelle
3 games
regal cradle
why would rampage not be best in pve
idk cause u need to use ur 2 cbs before u rampage
regal cradle
thats the highest dps apparently
late nacelle
wonderful
undone pumice
idk cause u need to use ur 2 cbs before u rampage
mby if ur slaughterhouse is about to fall off
that is better
hoary estuary
Got it so we gotta cycle that ok
brazen rock
why would rampage not be best in pve
cb hits harder then rampage.
undone pumice
ye but no1 plays cb
undone pumice
annihilator best
brazen rock
for pve?
brazen rock
they play both
regal cradle
nah pretty sure cb is meta in pve
undone pumice
i prefer thumb rsi tho
brazen rock
its a big issue rn with fury pve that we overcap like a thousand rage every fight
spamming cb with rampage up
undone pumice
its like impossible not to cap rage on fury
brazen rock
sure, but we wouldn't overcap as much if rampage didn't hit like noodle.
undone pumice
esp in m+
brazen rock
fury brainrot hours 
hoary estuary
the big thing is stopping fists every time
Thank you
fickle forge
If you PvE, just be a Chad prot warr
hoary estuary
I feel like my ele dies most games
undone pumice
true
hoary estuary
Are they super squish?
undone pumice
mby if ppl are whacking them head on
which they shouldnt be able to
they have like 2 knockbacks speedbuffs and roots
if ur ele lets ppl connect on them w/o movemenet abilities like charge he is cooked in the head
hoary estuary
Is it really that easy to get them off?
pale minnow
Imagine dying with ele
late nacelle
is it actually just rigged?
the games ur about to win
someone leaves
the games ur losing
nobody leaves
urban skiff
Hello Best race for pvp ally vs horde ? pls
always kt human. Nobody expects knockbacks from warriors and you can turn the tide of RBGs with that
urban skiff
why would rampage not be best in pve
in pve, part of rampage damage is adding damage to your RBs. Something fucky is going on so that spending those charges is more important than generating more charges via more rampages.
Same goes for execute procs. You want to expend the random or bonus damage and use rampage to generate more of them + enrage
brazen rock
its just a matter of cb being slightly overtuned and rampage being way undertuned.
also fury pve is kinda aids just stacking 4x 1.5 min CDs, exploding for 250k on 5 mobs, then waiting to do it again.
urban skiff
it's boring as shit tbh
idc who thought fury wants more 90 sec cooldowns but they must've been afraid to touch the rotation too much and that's the only alternative?
I'm gonna stick with annie bb build for pve
even if I'm slightly below the other warriors, at least there's consistency and some hefty self healing
brazen rock
eh you get tons of self healing and def anyways
impending, spell reflect, def stance if shits getting really gnarly, enraged regen and swap into spamming bloodbath and bt
in a sim world also you wont be slightly behind, more like 10-15k on st.
hoary estuary
12 in arena or out?
edgy prism
highest warrior in soloq seems to be arms
is arms better now? do you go full crit for arms?
eager mortar
highest warrior in soloq seems to be arms
where do you see that?
drifting lark
after tuning what are people mostly playing in 3s arms or fury looking at melee cleaves
sharp meteor
Fury feeling kind of mid right now.
edgy prism
where do you see that?
checkpvp
official warcraft site also has rankings, I think they should be the same
urban skiff
in a sim world also you wont be slightly behind, more like 10-15k on st.
in reality I'm a bad player and auto self heals while dpsing is a gain
uneven turret
anyone know how to hide that timer
wheat crane
12 in arena or out?
In
Hit the pvp dummy to see the # outside tho
12 +10 from in for the kill i think is enough for the extra global in cs window
spice hornet
⚠️ WARNING ⚠️
DO NOT QUEUE 2S AS WARRIOR
brazen rock
12 in arena or out?
12% scaled. 22% with in for the kill talent.
sharp meteor
The class really does feel troll in 2s
late nacelle
u just gotta catch em by surprise
if u dont crit
just leave the game
and try again
white briar
haste to 12%, then mast/crit rest
Why 12%?
lucid walrus
Crit is still 175%, right? So haste gives more dps?
crit should still be 175, it’d explain a lot
cyan heath
man i really cant decide if i should fury or arms
i have all honor gear for fury, but it just feels eh
brazen rock
does fury get spear
yes, mastery spear.
cyan heath
so whats yalls opinions on fury vs arms
is it more fun playing arms?
fury doesnt really seem the most fun. spamming bt and rampage nonstop for mediocre damage
burnt hull
i thought you meant spear of bastion
spear of bastion is bis
best ability in game, if u use it in ur build u instantly go up 2k rating
cyan heath
depends if the person using it can hit it
sharp meteor
spear off bolt
lucid walrus
spear of bastion is bis
based drainer take
craggy socket
DK is unkillable atm
sharp meteor
Unholy doing Havoc levels of dam
burnt hull
my last solo shuffle
thick reef
guys is arms or fury better rn?
burnt hull
dk being playable 🤮
cyan heath
ive been told arms and fury are both about the same
burnt hull
fury def has more survivability than arms atm
kindred flame
for thunderous roar build, should i really be taking CSHB anymore?
lucid walrus
weapons would be a plus
in terms of raw ilvl it seems fine, think i’m at 416 w/ 2 crafted pieces
kindred flame
yeah in retrospect iw ish i went weapons first, i also wish i didnt craft pve items
thats where my rogue is at
lucid walrus
good shit. got any trophies left?
kindred flame
im gonna be 2 weeks out from both weapons, one being drakebreakers.. but id almost rather just get conq weapons and gear drakes
umm very few
i got drakes shoulders and gloves
lucid walrus
gotcha
kindred flame
if i get another tier piece with pvp ilvl does the 2 piece work
also if i level another warrior right now, im essentially cucked on one week of drakebreakers right? also one vault item.. so being that i can craft my pvp boots on tuesday with the new spark its almost not even worth leveling another
lucid walrus
if i get another tier piece with pvp ilvl does the 2 piece work
yeah it will
kindred flame
itll be really hard taking that over a weapon if it pops but i think itll be worth especially if its legs... i couldnt ask for a better piece
because ill craft boots and helm and then spend the next few weeks on weapons
lucid walrus
but yeah no point leveling another, my alt warrior and windwalker are in the same boat there. they’ll be a tiny bit behind til conq cap lifts or they highroll vault
tier chest is so killer for arms
kindred flame
that 2 piece is godly tho
i know and thats the goal is to eventually end up arms
waiting on the new talents, i jus dont think arms feels as good as fury atm
lucid walrus
it doesn’t and probably won’t until patch tbh
kindred flame
ya i dont execute... ever
brazen rock
its literally 1.2% dps
kindred flame
rarely if ever
but again im planning on going arms
it oculd line up really nice, where i only need 1 weapon, get another arena tier piece, and the new arms taletns come out same time
stars align and im rank 1 /gg
iron fractal
Shadow priest sure needed those buffs, shadow word ticking for 50 k is totally justified.,
Fuck it, I dont see why anyone would play arms in pvp unless they have a dedicated pocket healer. Dying to AoE or dots sure is fun.
tribal wedge
big damage
iron fractal
Big damage doesnt help me when anyone and their mom has enough self heal to let dots do the job.
A feral raked me to death. A shadow priest wasnt even presence when the dots did the job.,
iron fractal
I'm doing bg's and open world pvp.
iron fractal
Dont see why people bitch about fury self healing when everyone is part-healer these days.
wheat jay
Cuz fury was immortal
It still heals a lot
If you were dying as fury then you must have been doing something VERY wrong
iron fractal
Nah, no issues as fury. But I generally prefer arms when I do pvp. But its hard to enjoy if you can't use the spec without a pocket healer coming with you.
iron fractal
As fury I can have plenty of independence, but as arms you will do some damage, then insa-die to 100k lava burst or 50k shadow word ticks.
dusk cargo
breh how do i win shu7ffle as soon as i hit 1600s its just dh and dk
wheat jay
By carrying games
Basically, if you carry games, you win
Love how solo shuffle is a 10/10 reality check for some people
craggy socket
any warrior streamers that play fury still?
kindred flame
i love solo shuffle
maiden grove
are any warrior streamers actually doing solo shuffle?
kindred flame
bajheera does
he seems to be actually extremely talented.. pretty sure hes 2k+ solo
maiden grove
is he fury or arms?
kindred flame
back and forth
kindred flame
im using a variation of the thunderous roar build hes playing in solos
in solos you have to really be the difference in each game
so all the utility it provides is massive
cyan heath
what piece of crafted gear do we get for pvp?
craggy socket
Solo shuffle is fucking dog shit
tribal wedge
Love how solo shuffle is a 10/10 reality check for some people
speak facts
craggy socket
Nah i just left the game and lost 200 rating
cyan heath
lmao
craggy socket
"everyone dog pile on player hahahahahah skill"
cyan heath
yes
craggy socket
Such skill
kindred flame
so.... 3s?
craggy socket
Not at all
cyan heath
yes
craggy socket
Youre a fucking idiot
kindred flame
bro at higher level thats not what oslo shuffle is
craggy socket
if you think that
kindred flame
you clearly played at 1200
cyan heath
wah i died first solo shuffle is so dog shit all people do is kill me leaves game
craggy socket
if you think solo is like 3s you are a retard
kindred flame
its literally 3s my guy
cyan heath
its literally less communicative 3s
craggy socket
then you know the teammates and who to kill
funny bc when i que 3s
i dont know my matches
finite escarp
Raymond pretty much bankrupt a casino and he was a retard
craggy socket
Exactly
wispy sail
do you now play rend on arms?
cyan heath
anyone know what we make for our pvp crafted gear?
kindred flame
wispy sail
did twice my dmg
kindred flame
yeah droopy boots and helm
craggy socket
1100 rating lmaoooooooooooooooooo
craggy socket
talkin shit at 1100
kindred flame
alrdy higher rated than you
kindred flame
1600 now, 4 games later.. bet 2k by end of day
craggy socket
kindred flame
it says 479
like i said
first win was 566 points to 1100
you saw that right?
ur so dumb lol
kindred flame
and i make 6 figures doing tattoos
must suck sitting in ur mommies basement crying about solo shuffle
craggy socket
I highly doubt it
kindred flame
you triggered los
craggy socket
your tattoos look like dog shit
kindred flame
he says solos huffle isnt fair
craggy socket
like your rating
sage raptor
Okay well personal attacks make you lose all credibility
craggy socket
I said solo is trash
kindred flame
thank you
wheat jay
Okay relax
Clearly los got dicked a bit too hard in some solo shuffle games
But no need to get rude here
craggy socket
I said its trash
wheat jay
It is
kindred flame
yes we heard you
kindred flame
okay los
wheat jay
But its still a reality check in terms of arena skill
kindred flame
exactly
kindred flame
its a clear and concise way to determine who is the most skilled in the game
craggy socket
when its "jump on worst player here and gg"
wheat jay
Ok, im glad, send your cr
cyan heath
solo shuffle is one of the most fun pvp modes out there theyve added in a long time
i love that shit
wheat jay
when its "jump on worst player here and gg"
Its not
craggy socket
2100 is my highest
kindred flame
lol ok los screenshots because at 2100 its not "just jump on x"
sage raptor
Solo shuffle should be renamed co quest farm really. Who really cares about that bracket? Lol
wheat jay
Jumping on worst player is the equivalent of jumping on ANY class in 3s because its squishest
misty harness
Only in the warrior discord
craggy socket
wheat jay
In solo shuffle you jump either worst or squishest player
In 3s you jump on squishest player
misty harness
I'M MORE MANLY THAN YOU AND MY TATTOOS ARE COOLER TOO
kindred flame
thats certainly not true
wheat jay
You can do the same in solo shuffle
craggy socket
ope bad healer
wheat jay
That's how you win
craggy socket
you lose 3 out of 6
wheat jay
You just need to do it on the rly
kindred flame
lol holy pally from last season?
wheat jay
On the fly*
craggy socket
Ret Paladin
wheat jay
Gameplay is still the same, you're just not on a voice call
And you're not playing the comp you're comfortable with
wheat jay
Bad dps too
craggy socket
its already decided how its going to go
kindred flame
if you get a preservation evoker you win basically
wheat jay
You play with every healer
kindred flame
much more than zug zug on x
wheat jay
So if you lose all, you suck
kindred flame
unless theyre trash
wheat jay
Well, 3/3 then
kindred flame
and 3/3 gets you nothing
craggy socket
I would rather solo q be you just que into 3s games
not solo shuffle
like why do i have to play with everyone
kindred flame
def would rather do that but ppl would also say thats not fair
wheat jay
and 3/3 gets you nothing
You can be Elite with 3:3 afaik
kindred flame
3:3 ggets me no rating
craggy socket
hardly when you que into certain mmr lobbies
but yeah man w/e its fun
its just frustrating
kindred flame
now tell me my face tats are cool
craggy socket
i hate face tats bruh
sage raptor
In solo shuffle you jump either worst or squishest player
Or the evoker 💀
craggy socket
but you do you
kindred flame
hold on, my 45 min solo queue popped
sage raptor
Hey 30 second cc immunity is cool though tbf
wheat jay
Its disgusting
kindred flame
they gotta get nerfed
wheat jay
Still winnable tho 
opaque quarry
Has anyone used the Infurious Helm yet? Do you like it?
tribal wedge
Has anyone used the Infurious Helm yet? Do you like it?
bis
craggy socket
It really helps if you play a few certain specs in solo
wheat jay
Yes, same in 3s
tribal wedge
free 424 stuff, and BIS in arms
craggy socket
wheat jay
Some specs are favoured
craggy socket
how many are dk/dh
tribal wedge
There hasn't been a pin about em yet but haven't seen #s on the damage.
the damage are not that great, but anyway the stat are good
kindred flame
in rbgs they do like most healing and 3 most dmg lol
opaque quarry
the damage are not that great, but anyway the stat are good
Fair, okie, time to make one for my Fury
tribal wedge
arms defensive up waiting room 
fleet plover
Two drummers and a vocalist
craggy socket
fury with the nerf to slaughter house is just b tier
tribal wedge
would not say b tier
more like middle A tier imo
still huge aoe burst, and still unkillable
wheat jay
Y'all crazy 
opaque quarry
SH nerfs suck if you don't have a better MS debuff.
spice hornet
more like middle A tier imo
LOL
spice hornet
still huge aoe burst, and still unkillable
LOL
opaque quarry
That's a lot of laughing.
spice hornet
A dh is better than fury in every way now
opaque quarry
I mean, sure, but it depends on the player too.
I've def beat the shit outta some DHs lol.
tribal wedge
dh is prob S tier, so i don't see any prob with my take ?
eager mortar
I can say their comp didn't work
opaque quarry
Yeah fury sucks
Lil nerf and they suck? Ok.
spice hornet
There just isn’t a reason to bring one over an assass/dh/dk
opaque quarry
It "literally" didn't kill the spec at all. SH gets pushed to the side by like every other MS ability so.
craggy socket
Knocked it down a few pegs forsure
spice hornet
All those classes do the same if not more damage and have a more impactful kit
opaque quarry
Burst dmg? Self-heal? Beefy? Our SH got nerfed, sure, but it didn't just remove the whole spec, just don't run SH or only do in arenas.
tribal wedge
burst dmg is only good in aoe, mono burst is a bit meh
craggy socket
Were only talkin about arena here
its the pvp channel
nobody gives a fuck about bgs or rbgs
stiff nexus
What a fuckin take lol
opaque quarry
I mean, bgs and rbgs are pvp, if you are not aware.
wheat jay
Fury is far from dead
It received deserved nerfs, and there are few specs left that need nerfing
Slaughterhouse is 36% during your recklesness burst too
Which is where it matters
40% PERMA ms was too strong
Warpaint nerf was deserved cuz it was too tankh
Tanky
Bt nerf was 4% to 3% iirc
Which is also close to nothing
Or was it 3 to 2?
kindred flame
didnt bt get a 1% buff
wheat jay
Either way, tiny nerf
kindred flame
overall huge nerf to bleed build
full quiver
Ya dork
wheat jay
Y'all are on crack if you think fury was fine, and on even more if you think its dead now
spice hornet
Warpaint been around for awhile I never thought it was a problem. Feel like everyone thinks it’s a problem because d stance is so bad . Also the rotation of bt spam makes us heal more but last expansion we had to spam raging blow a lot and rare bt
wheat jay
40% was also busted
wheat jay
Its broken too, and should get nerfed
spice hornet
Yup
tribal wedge
warpaint wasn't a probleme cause annihilator build didnt exist
wheat jay
Most likely will very soon
stiff nexus
Hope future fury survives the blow.
kindred flame
so whare you running for arenas @tribal wedge
i just hope changes make arms meta
make arms great again
tribal wedge
so whare you running for arenas <@201488271388180481>
comit arms, but don't start 3s seriously for the moment
kindred flame
hows it feel atm
wheat jay
Arms only slapping 150k mortals
spice hornet
Good but squishy
kindred flame
but you just die so fast
wheat jay
Need 250k before people consider it any good
tribal wedge
good dam, but get destroy by everything if i don't pre d stance or pre wall stuns
wheat jay
Survi main, used to be warr
craggy socket
I’m scared blizzard ain’t gonna do anymore tuning
kindred flame
thats certianly not gonna happen
tribal wedge
i'm used to my weekly patch now
kindred flame
they're really on it
craggy socket
If so I’m going dh/dk instead of ret/warr
wheat jay
I’m scared blizzard ain’t gonna do anymore tuning
Plenty of tuning coming in 10.0.5
Tuning happening pretty much twice a week now
kindred flame
im still contemplating maining rogue
coral axle
Need 250k before people consider it any good
hit a 190 once, not sure how much vers they had tho
almost there
wheat jay
hit a 190 once, not sure how much vers they had tho
Nice
kindred flame
i forget the name of the pally aura that hits like a fuckin train
wheat jay
Arms warriors need to be unkillable oneshot machines or y'all cry
spice hornet
Is this the rend build or is there something else
kindred flame
but it hit me for 120k in a 2s game yesterday
spice hornet
I haven’t been keeping up with arms
coral axle
I was using the build that buffs MS and exc up as much as possible, no bleed
no idea whats better I just like funny 2 button dead
craggy socket
Well
Id like to be bullied by casters
atleast have SOME defense against that shit
kindred flame
thats why fury tho i think
coral axle
yeah I just got beat up by a demo and a bm it was mean
craggy socket
spell reflects just dont hit the same
bc theres so many random spells going off at once lmao
kindred flame
no they really fucking dont
used to b able to do pro spell reflects while its flying at u
craggy socket
no they really fucking dont
https://tenor.com/view/you-and-i-are-not-so-different-raimi-meme-green-goblin-spiderman-gif-20908369
coral axle
every destro lock buff is a spell reflect buff lets go
craggy socket
Against destro forsure
wheat jay
Dont remember being able to reflect when shit was flying at you
coral axle
there really is so much random garbage instant cast spam at all times now
wheat jay
Wtf
craggy socket
Yeah its annoying as fuck
Some things in WoW have not been updated to modern WoW it seems lol
idk how to explain that but
nimble jasper
hunters are legit made of paper
wheat jay
Gotta position better, sometimes hide/kite
nimble jasper
yeah
which is why alot of players fail at ww
even tho you can onetap kids
every min
wheat jay
Ww with double teleport is annoying as fuck too haha
coral axle
yeah with WW being a hit-and-run class now my buddy cannot play it at all
wheat jay
Been like that since forever
coral axle
oh interesting, yeah he was telling me you used to be able to just sit on people a lot more
nimble jasper
not really
maybe when healing elixirs auto triggered
at 35%
also technically rogues are hit n run yet still s tier
well good rogues that is
bad 2s only rogues i guess just w key more
coral axle
yeah nothing wrong with hit and run at all
my friend is just bad at it
im p bad at it too but I dont play such lameo classes
wheat jay
Hit and run teaches you one funny thing
Enemies tend to chase a lot
And they los their healers
Good root on healer and dps collapses hehe
torpid roost
hunters explode people from a distance, they can be slightly squishy
also they have a hard immunity
warriors have none
nimble jasper
Hit and run teaches you one funny thing
i mean its a fundamental of a good player
you watch average 2s duelist dh
then you play an r1 dh and notice how much more the latter pre kites
wheat jay
i mean its a fundamental of a good player
It is
nimble jasper
honestly
wheat jay
But some people dont do that cuz theyre carried by their class
wheat jay
The squisher you are the better your movement gets
nimble jasper
is always there
bait random mongo to leap/dash to you behind los without trinket
kill in stun behind pillar
cries on forums about op class
nimble jasper
The squisher you are the better your movement gets
also
fuck good dks
who just perma chains kite you
whenever you have damage
torpid roost
yes, I mean the hard immunity that dots still go through, like nearly every other immunity
nimble jasper
hard immunity is bubble
torpid roost
semantics, waaah a dot
wheat jay
Turtle kinda wack
nimble jasper
point is
torpid roost
everything goes through DBTS
nimble jasper
severely delusional if you think warrior is squish
wheat jay
Long ass cooldown
spice hornet
Hate arms in a demo lock meta
torpid roost
I've died inside of a global as a geared warrior in defensive stance
spice hornet
Feels bad
torpid roost
everyone is squish, really, is more the point
nimble jasper
doesnt mean rogue is bad
torpid roost
so being the class that's forced to stand and fight is.... kinda a disadvantage
nimble jasper
you arent forced to stand and fight when other team has cds rolling
????
@wheat jay is it possible to deadzone bad furies
as surv this ssn
just range far enough to prevent charge or melees
kindred flame
they have to b rteallllllly bad
coral axle
is somebody actually playing survival?
nimble jasper
is surv even that bad
red ember
Sorry for dumb question friends, but is Honor (411) gear definitely better than WM bloody token gear (408)? I'm seeing quite a few Bloody pieces better verse statted and wondering if the 3 ilevels is worth
torpid roost
you see some surv in the 1600-1800 bracket, it doesn't seem bad but I don't have a hunter
coral axle
afaik it's pretty rough yeah
wispy sail
anybody got a good arms build?
nimble jasper
its not even dog in pve
prob in pve is its a melee
unless its bonkers like s3/4 SL tier
people barely play it regardless for pve
torpid roost
there's 2400+ surv hunters, so you can make it work apparently
coral axle
thats sick
nimble jasper
no but
the thing is hunter has 2 ranged specs
why play the melee one
if it isnt better
spice hornet
there's 2400+ surv hunters, so you can make it work apparently
There’s like 2
torpid roost
yes
nimble jasper
ww is better in pve than dh tbf
torpid roost
meaning it's possible
nimble jasper
its just dh buffs wizards
spice hornet
Class gets clatted in 3s
nimble jasper
everyone gets clapped by demo sp rn
spice hornet
2s bm axruslly still CRANKs
torpid roost
okay, everything I say is wrong then, great, lmfao
coral axle
meaning it's possible
hey i think ur right about this, I dont see any random tank specs at 2400
so its more playable than tank
coral axle
alright u got me
torpid roost
there's only 6 arms warriors above 2400 so it's definitely shit kek
torpid roost
oh, yeah, forgot about warlocks
nimble jasper
anyone playing 2s serious
torpid roost
they aren't squishy
nimble jasper
cringers
coral axle
demo is an actual tank spec
nimble jasper
honestly its just
coral axle
probably harder to kill than brewmasters
raw grove
god damn war in arena is rough
nimble jasper
dh just gives you a quicker out
if you're dumb and decide 20% hp no defensives is when you should run
nimble jasper
depends what you're playing
carmine nimbus
Is there anyway to buy single weapons from previous seasons for transmog without buying the whole pack? Prob not yeah?
fair tide
it's the stupid amount of roots tbh
lucid walrus
Is there anyway to buy single weapons from previous seasons for transmog without...
depends what season
nimble jasper
it's the stupid amount of roots tbh
2s never is balanced
lucid walrus
after wod i don’t believe so
fair tide
its solo shuffle
raw grove
depends what you're playing
what are you rated as rn in 2s
nimble jasper
guy thinks i play much 2s
craggy socket
trying out arms
raw grove
is anyone in here 2k rated war?
fair tide
oh dude, trust me I'm not tunneling the mage
craggy socket
is slam worth using without talents?
fair tide
I know how to play
nimble jasper
prolly mud
raw grove
whats his comp
nimble jasper
2s as warrior is a big meme
fair tide
mages can still root even if you're not focusing them
raw grove
thats playing warrior in general
nimble jasper
no 3s is much better
raw grove
whats his 2k comp. do you know?
fair tide
might just go back to fury for root break
raw grove
lol.
nimble jasper
rando shit priest from lfg
prob way worse results
pres/rdruid best two 2s healers
tbh
theres some comps you know are real players
and others are just random fotm dps player picking up any lfg healer he can get
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1684529216 yeah arms/disc with challengerz into queueing with random lfg healers
spice hornet
Yeah I play warr priest with my buddy who is disc as well and past 2100 games are miserable just gave up on that
wheat jay
<@291636646225379328> is it possible to deadzone bad furies
No idea
I just outfury every fury i fight in 2s
Oh no, fury is on me, whatever shall I do
Mongoose bite spam
nimble jasper
he trinkets
wheat jay
But most of the time I zug zug them
wheat jay
Then I root him
If he trinkets scatter my druid clones him xD
If he trinkets cyclone i scatter
lucid walrus
wish you didn't have to play 500cr better than rogues to win rn
lucid walrus
suppose so. it just feels worse bc this was gradual
nimble jasper
700 pts above where they belonged
lucid walrus
they get disarm --> we get squishier --> double vanish infinite dam high cc high mobility
nimble jasper
people play sub in 2s?
lucid walrus
idk i'm just painting in broad strokes here
nimble jasper
yeah kinda weirdge
putting all specs into one category
i ran into 2 sub players while collecting set
gibbed them both
lucid walrus
beast
really should stop whining. we literally know when the class is getting better lmao
wheat jay
700 pts above where they belonged
Only?
hot solstice
Arms was a meme spec s4 I got 2400 at the end of season and was like in top 20 armses on eu
nimble jasper
Only?
i was being generous
weird subsection of players that just play fotm dps around 2.1 every ssn
wheat jay
Fair fair
nimble jasper
somehow barely saw much outlaw despite how broken it was below that rating
and the few i ran into did 0 dps
lucid walrus
yeah outlaw does nothing rn
lucid walrus
ah
nimble jasper
but surv/outlaw were better if you go into non dogshit mmr
hot solstice
Outlaw was a disaster for s3…s4 became better after pirate and hpriest nerfs
hot solstice
well I felt a big difference between seasons
nimble jasper
maybe
hot solstice
Maybe the hpriest nerf did a job
analog cloud
is annihilator build better then raging blow ?
hot solstice
But s3 2400 were the hardest in my life
nimble jasper
cuz other pirate player doesnt do any damage
i'd double/triple their output
would argue outlaw/rdruid or mw
was better anyway
hpriest was only fun if your priest played kyrian with resonator
and you just run half the games in opener
hot solstice
At least I had assa rog as twin…and games went much faster vs outlaw than on arms
hot solstice
Can’t counter step kidney with evasion
nimble jasper
unless hes sleeping on the wheel
sub hpriest was the actual hard matchup
playing outlaw healer
hot solstice
If ur priest knows when to do damage it’s not a hard match up
Esp with broken kirian boon
nimble jasper
yeah but then his priest is also boon