im running warlord's torment
#pvp
teal adder
full crit haste and i hit 92k executes
theres a mortal strike build that takes the talents on the right of the arms tree
spark grotto
is it good tho?
hoary stone
Is arms good for solo shuffle?
lyric violet
its uhh something
hoary stone
Ever since I got my 424 weapon it seems like my fury spec does less damage and less healing, lol
teal adder
i havent tried the mortal strike build tbh
urban skiff
the fuck
If getting rating is that easy, I'm going to regret (for a short time) that I went with strife offhand
mystic barn
it’s easy
urban skiff
definitely got easier for me once I bought full enchants
urban skiff
I'm a perpetual 1400-1600 player in 2v2 so I expect a bit more challenge than others
mystic barn
you’ll be at least 2k cr in shuffle then
sharp meteor
hoenstly most games ended on second reck/ava
if you send fast and hard your stuff can come up sooner
mystic barn
ya it’s generally done in 1-2 goes
sharp meteor
second 2 minute cds always close the game
mystic barn
I’ve just been popping stuff as it comes off cd since people die to air in it
sharp meteor
aat least at like 2100 and below
mystic barn
yep
sharp meteor
oh man shuffle is so good for alt elite sets
urban skiff
my tactic is to walk up to a target and get enrage going
then charge my actual target and pop everything
mystic barn
1.8 in 2s was 40 games, 1.8 in shuffle was 5
urban skiff
land enraged warbringer OF rampage all at once
spark grotto
whats the current best weapon enchant for arms?
specifically for arena if it matters
idle cliff
1.8 in 2s was 40 games, 1.8 in shuffle was 5
Well technically that's 30 games in shuffle
mystic barn
technically yea but they blow by so fast
idle cliff
ye+
teal adder
any @full quiver in the chat
qcp bro man
just train me urself
ur truly the god here
me rn
spice hornet
⚠️ WARNING ⚠️
DO NOT QUEUE 2S AS WARRIOR
spark grotto
why?
brazen rock
mystic barn
queueing 2s as a warrior is my favorite, super fun
sharp meteor
what healing shuffle does to a mf
sharp meteor
⚠️ WARNING ⚠️
DO NOT QUEUE 2S AS WARRIOR
ya it's rough out there
hoary stone
So is fury still the go to after the arms buffs?
iron basalt
@hoary stone real warriors go Arms
fickle forge
what healing shuffle does to a mf
i notice wow players love to make fun of people instead of helping
good to see rss is dead, toxicity is one of the causes
healer main, i have >500 games and still < 1300 rating, i have no shame in that
i make 6 figures myself irl, i dont make fun of ppl making min wage or living off food stamps not sure why these losers gotta make fun of my statd in a video game
nimble dirge
So is fury still the go to after the arms buffs?
Arms
warped warren
⚠️ WARNING ⚠️
DO NOT QUEUE 2S AS WARRIOR
warped warren
i notice wow players love to make fun of people instead of helping
good to see r...
HAHAHA
spice hornet
Filthy eu player…
nimble dirge
Yeah and all those were fury's first. I think in long terms arms will be better anyways. Fury set bonus sucks and i wouldnt be surprised if they nerf furys self healing even more
cinder lake
@nimble dirge why not remove him also from th game?
lucid walrus
in that people just kind of play around you?
nimble dirge
<@487999543128883201> why not remove him also from th game?
remove who
cinder lake
@nimble dirge fury
nimble dirge
<@487999543128883201> fury
they should tbh
nah jk fury is good, I just think in long term arms will be better
grand scaffold
anyone else finding that their game impact has... disappeared in SQ?
ngl
i thought fury was pretty bad
but its not terrible
its probably just playable if you want pressure you can play arms
can 3 shot somebody
nimble dirge
yeah the crits are insane
nimble dirge
are you running hurricane and sharpen blade?
cyan heath
so, i dont see any crafted gear for pvp in pins, is there anything we should get crafted for us?
grand scaffold
are you running hurricane and sharpen blade?
whats hurricane
waxen oasis
Hows Arms?
im hearing from some that Fury is better but the top warriors on ladder are Arms
nimble dirge
whats hurricane
cyan heath
think arms has more big chunky damage and fury has to wait for the 1.5m cds
bright stream
i thought fury was pretty bad
I think it's lost a lot of its solo queue-versatility
waxen oasis
i hate waiting for cds
urban skiff
im hearing from some that Fury is better but the top warriors on ladder are Arms
arms more squishy, if you have partners who can compensate you might be better off as arms than fury. If you like brawling and being self-reliant then fury is better.
grand scaffold
arms more squishy, if you have partners who can compensate you might be better o...
yeah
in solo shuffle arms seems to hit a wall eventually
everybody seems to know to focus you
fury seems to get better as cr gets higher but is absolute trash in the start
because your team mates die too fast
thats my experience atleast
bright stream
fury seems to get better as cr gets higher but is absolute trash in the start
hitting the wall around 2200-2300 atm
people do the classic kite the rooted warrior into africa strat
a lot
hoary stone
Anyone else getting disconnected frequently and won't let you log back into 1 character for 15 minutes
bright stream
Anyone else getting disconnected frequently and won't let you log back into 1 ch...
nah
hoary stone
But I can play other chara
idle cliff
What are we enchanting the weapons with? Sophic?
grand scaffold
hitting the wall around 2200-2300 atm
sounds about right
i started hitting it at 1900
mystic barn
is razonko still mean to you ndogo
bright stream
What are we enchanting the weapons with? Sophic?
most people are running frozen
lean burrow
hitting the wall around 2200-2300 atm
are there glad players in that range in SS?
urban skiff
gear wise
yes, a bit. You'll have to spend conq or strife on offhand that no other class has to worry about. We're essentially always an item behind every other spec in the game until we can buy a full set.
urban skiff
everybody seems to know to focus you
tbh i prefer that over being ignored in a root
urban skiff
i started hitting it at 1900
and here I'm wishing i could push past 1350
grand scaffold
i started hitting it at 1900
1800*
ive had to switch back to fury i dont think im good at arms lmao
urban skiff
just wait for the next round of buffs to arms
10.0.5 gonna be arms patch
I think the secret play for arms is to always be in defensive stance
coral orchid
A lot of people are really mad when I tag as prot war in solo shuffle 😄
sharp meteor
I got into a shuffle with a prot warr
I check his build and he doesn't even have vene
urban skiff
what's even the point? he's there for damooche
steep inlet
I think the secret play for arms is to always be in defensive stance
Yikes
Never do this
It’s not SL arms
urban skiff
Yikes
no different than pillar humping warlocks while getting death wish stacks up in defensive stance and then having +50% extra damage when you go zerk stance
If the problem is arms too squishy then the solution is to be defensive stance and then swap for your gos
bright stream
are there glad players in that range in SS?
quite a few
top 10-20 players of each spec seems to be around 2300-2400
the problem might be related to some poor gear choices I made, but
I'm not convinced by that yet
at the moment it feels more likely that the issue is related to players being unfamiliar with playing with melee, as a lot of casters have suddenly started joining sq
steep inlet
not at all protean dont do that
the tradeoff is atrocious
you would loose too much dmg for a shitty 10%
grand scaffold
ok
urban skiff
you would loose too much dmg for a shitty 10%
losing damage when it don't matter to be alive when it does though
unless you secure kills regularly outside cds
lean burrow
isn't arms just ms bot without warbreaker?
urban skiff
don't forget spamstring
grand scaffold
why do pve'ers try to do world pvp in pve gear
i gotta say its like the funniest sight of all time
there was like 5 of them trying to kill me for no apparent reason
and i just outhealed them
😂
quaint snow
urban skiff
why do pve'ers try to do world pvp in pve gear
to make us feel good about our class choice
nlg i live for this
also why no 1400
I just want better pve gear
grand scaffold
to make us feel good about our class choice
nice pfp btw
grand scaffold
i used to be happyseal, now I am dad
cool
urban skiff
guaranteed weapon upgrade vs absurd RNG at way higher game level
I take the easy way out
Really regretting right now that I didn't buy a second conq offhand instead of strife offhand
could it be worth going deep into shockwave for fury instead of troar or spear?
for solo shuffle
muted surge
Shockwave sucks
Especially if it’s a cluster fuck like shuffle
You will just dr everyone
With your 1 sec stun
urban skiff
i'm stuck at 1400 so i'm banking on being unpredictable
ain't nobody prepared to deal with 410k health fury warrior who rips out stuns every 25 seconds
but the damage probably sucks with with auto crit
steep inlet
If you are stuck at 1400 don’t do the full def stance thing U said
It’s a major error
hoary stone
Does PvE gear go above 424?
muted surge
Also sucks for arms
muted surge
Does PvE gear go above 424?
No
hoary stone
Ok cool
muted surge
Well, last boss in mythic I think? You can just check in the journal
ancient dirge
what conq piece as fury
urban skiff
why are tanks queueing into rest of solo shuffle? thought they had their own thing going
urban skiff
blood dk is like cancer
fickle forge
i'm stuck at 1400 so i'm banking on being unpredictable
No reason to be unpredictably worse though, Shockwave is giga inting
urban skiff
inting?
lean burrow
suppose my dps is a caster like spriest who gets pumped by dh and feral, and I'm all out of peels, do I just go punch enemy healer?
or stay and get cleaved?
urban skiff
depends who cleaves harder
lean burrow
I think I lost that game when I played and stood on feral
analog tree
worn flame
3s arms, 2s fury 🤷♂️
stuck karma
I went arms, fk it, im'a execute stuff, we mid tier anyways
waxen oasis
Fury over Arms for 2s warlock partner?
mild thunder
you dont wanna play either with a lock in 2s lamo
white briar
you dont wanna play either with a lock in 2s lamo
But if someone put a gun to your head, you would play fury
mild thunder
nope, id let them shoot me
kindred flame
Does anyone have a useful plater profile reference?
Preferably one with as much info as possible displayed there in a simplistic way
waxen oasis
My friend plays a lock so yeah 🤷♂️
kindred flame
I'm not sure if one of these M+ profiles will work right
white briar
Gear an SP alt and play that in 2s tbh
lean burrow
nope, id let them shoot me
mild thunder
ww is a good alt
mild thunder
undone pumice
nope, id let them shoot me
relatable
wheat jay
I'm not sure if one of these M+ profiles will work right
Make one yourself
Easy
Only took me hours and hours to get mine in good shape
weak swallow
man everytime i think smf is good i go back to tg and its like being blessed by the gods
more hp, more wep atk, more stats
makes me wonder why tf i even deluded myself into thinking smf is better aside from hitting faster
fickle forge
Kinda similar to not picking Bladestorm
weak swallow
warped warren
ewwwwwww
modest kindle
How do you approach vsing ele shams and spreists in 3s as arms. Having trouble dealing with them atm.
proven maple
Double wizard as arms sucks. You connect 2 seconds burst what you can. And then run on their cds. And avoid getting into positions you can’t escape from. Cuz they will melt you in two globals. You get tiny windows into wizard cleave. It blows
modest kindle
Yeh ele seems to have a crap ton of pressure
Wizard cleaves are my failing point lol
proven maple
It’s a weakness of the spec.
modest kindle
Tyty
proven maple
You’re much better into melee cleaves you can sweeping strike. Etc.
You can game wizards. But it’s not a lot of fun
Get them out of position and have a cross-cc ready where you can punish them
modest kindle
Yeh vs melee has been all good. Playing with dh and mw.
Oceanic player and it loves putting us on NA lobbies even at peak times which doesn't help either
Charge is bad enough without the added ping
steep inlet
guys i dont know if there is Warmode/World PvP lovers here
but i worked for months on a project to enhance it
blizz devs will read it soon
here is the result
undone pumice
no ip grabber pinky promise?
steep inlet
promise
warped warren
https://www.acalltoazeroth.com/home
i refuse to read
mystic barn
I’m scared
steep inlet
the result is Blizzard lvl of quality
warped warren
i dont trust prot players
steep inlet
we handpainted things etc
warped warren
nor french ppl
steep inlet
check !
mystic barn
racist
steep inlet
3 months of work on this site, if you could feedback it would be cool
warped warren
i refuse to read
^
warped warren
mild thunder
cbf asking this in the ww discord because they're all brainlets, what do you guys think is the healer of choice for ww in 2s? played with a disc and rdru earlier, disc felt okay but we got mana starved against any mw or rdru teams, and rdru felt horrible
besides prevoker
lucid walrus
really would've thought it'd be rdruid
mild thunder
really would've thought it'd be rdruid
could be, and we were just playing like shit... his main complaint was that ww is too squishy for the HoT-and-run playstyle of rdru
lucid walrus
that's fascinating
it's supposed to be one of the best healers for arms and it really isn't any better with durability
mild thunder
thats exactly what i said
undone pumice
cbf asking this in the ww discord because they're all brainlets, what do you guy...
disc for quick games seems good, does a lot of dam, holy is unplayable, mby rsham
raw summit
Rsham is fake
serene jungle
is crit useless for fury in pvp?
mild thunder
does rsham even exist anymore?
raw summit
is crit useless for fury in pvp?
It's decent but worse than mastery or haste
keen basalt
So frozen devotion or stacked sophic devotion for fury?
mild thunder
there are also zero good ww content creators
keen basalt
I mean 9xx X2 main stat sounds like a lot a lot - the DMG proc must be insane on frozen?
raw summit
there are also zero good ww content creators
Depends if you view streamers as content creators
Trill is one of the very best you could ever watch, just doesnt make guides n the likes
raw summit
Well trilltko goated
mild thunder
will check out
mild thunder
oh yea i forgot about that
glossy marsh
Hey guys, do you always Hamstring your target after charge? Do you only do that vs ranged? Or is situational?
glossy marsh
Yes, I am taking the habit of always Hamstring after charge, and im not sure if thats a good or bad habit 😄
gloomy beacon
Keeping them slowed and in your range is the best thing you can do for your damage
glossy marsh
Ok ty, then will continue to do so!
gloomy beacon
If you can catch up without burning mobility abilities that’s a huge W
glossy marsh
Thats pretty difficult since I am slowed myself 99% of time 😛
cinder thorn
Hey guys, do you always Hamstring your target after charge? Do you only do that ...
Yes and yes
Sometimes I hamstring melee also if they will run in fear of my big... dsword
Or if they trying to kill a friend I hamstring them so they can fite me instead
glossy marsh
I see, thank you!
grizzled zinc
I take tier right?
lucid walrus
it's shitty bc you lose the option of a crafted helm until you can replace with more tier but tldr yes that's your best option
best conq value and it's the only way to get your hands on tier rn anyhow
grizzled zinc
My vaults always sucks haha unlucky head
glass lance
Tier is still best despite the lower ilvl?
lucid walrus
wdym lower ilvl
glass lance
It says 395. Don't pvp items scale to 411 or something like that?
grizzled zinc
424
lucid walrus
they do but if you're vaulting it from pvp it'll still scale
they do scale*, they don't only hit 411
glass lance
Ohh ok, didn't know tier scaled in pvp
lucid walrus
it won't if you get it from raid or if (when we can) you craft it out of a conquest piece
glass lance
Gotcha, thanks
mild thunder
it won't if you get it from raid or if (when we can) you craft it out of a conqu...
it still scales if you convert a conq piece
bright stream
more games, it's feeling much better to play fury, just sitting in dstance
until cds
winged quest
@mild thunder How do you convert it ?
bright stream
feels like it could still be very good for solo queue, have to play more tho to figure it out
still getting very close games against spriest, and feel like frost mage might reck this
undone pumice
l
stray plaza
Whats bis stat besides vers for fury ?
bright stream
Whats bis stat besides vers for fury ?
haste>mast a lot of people like
stray plaza
leaden lynx
<@589020053748449300> How do you convert it ?
You wait a month
winged quest
Okay thank
green agate
Been feeling like im hitting a wall with fury in solo, peaked at 1639 and now im going back and forth winning 50ish and losing 50ish
If I swap to arms does it take into account my fury MMR when climbing?
sonic bloom
If I swap to arms does it take into account my fury MMR when climbing?
No, it's spec specific.
full quiver
How tf do you find at mentions on mobile lmao
scarlet barn
lean burrow
anime in pvp channel
full quiver
Why does ur app look so different lol
undone pumice
he is huawei user
full quiver
I figured out you can search "mentions"
undone pumice
🇨🇳
late nacelle
people just keep leaving solo shuffle AAAAHHHH
dusk crane
Is it worth crafting the PvP helm? I already have the boots
late nacelle
yes
dusk crane
Thanks
hearty horizon
Dagger build throws up Slaughterhouse pretty fast o.O
tight imp
I used a spark on a Lariat since I'm also running some mythics, so have one other one. Between boots + helm which would be better to craft?
tight imp
boots<@529837651885424640>
That's what I was leaning towards but wanted to be sure
undone pumice
5% cc reduction always better than tiny tinydot
ember totem
Dagger build throws up Slaughterhouse pretty fast o.O
Is it fun though? 😂
slate violet
which conquest weapon should i be going with? dont see haste one
undone pumice
mastery good stat me like
tribal wedge
i took the crit one since i'm playing arms
slate violet
yeah might go crit just so i can swap to arms and i like to hit hard anyways
what about enchants?
went wafting, the best by far
coarse portal
i took the crit one since i'm playing arms
Took crit cause arms and big sword since no big axe
Gotta get gud for axe
wooden grove
RIP those conq points lmao
wooden grove
Crit > Mastery
undone pumice
dont care
coarse portal
I like both the crit and mastery aspects of arms rn
undone pumice
imagine being so masterful and mastering you cause very deep wounds
undone pumice
maatery is flat dmg it also smash
winged quest
smash is the way
undone pumice
flat % dmg amplification
undone pumice
no
winged quest
zugzug big sword big crit big dick
late nacelle
seems like a fun build tho
tribal wedge
honestly, crit seems a bit better since we have a lot of modifiers, but stat doesn't really matter for arms, some play haste, other full crit etc
coarse portal
I do haste crit preferably
undone pumice
full crit mastery jumpscare skullsplitter 1 shot
finite escarp
Is it worth it to get both infurious pieces? Are they bis?
undone pumice
ye
coarse portal
Ima cry if my GV has a weapon this coming week
finite escarp
Cool ty im fury
high abyss
Does anyone know how much Primary you gain from the Conquest Badge in pvp combat? The Honor Badge gives 1141 in pvp combat
spice hornet
Good morning
late nacelle
TIL
you can get into games
without healers in em
in solo shuffle
i was arms
holy shit what a terrible experience
nimble dirge
307k MS to pvp dummy
undone pumice
now - armor, - any passive aura, -vers and its not so good anymore
nimble dirge
yeah
nimble dirge
hurricane sharpen blade and precision
gloomy beacon
because 6 dps smashing into each other would be so lame
late nacelle
instant 0-6
like
you can get into games
with 2 tanks
instead of healers
so 4 dps 2 tanks
no healer
as arms
is very fun
undone pumice
cuz blizz is racist to warriors
coarse portal
I just take impending victory and that heal we now have for lack of healer
late nacelle
druid healer
cyclones kill target
on 5% hp
so he lives
man i love solo shuffle
coarse portal
Yeah some solo shuffles are rough
coarse portal
I don't have that in mine lol
quaint bison
We love the 1-5 losses because literally every other melee can just smoke you and most lobbies are 4 melee
quaint bison
And that 1 win is only bc you dice rolled a triple crit with cds first round and every round after that they just press buttons
craggy socket
Im glad we nerfed warriors so that DK and DH could continue their retarded domination
I dont think theres a more braindead comp
pale crow
The thing that bothers me the most is that DH has a 50% healing reduction aoe with lower cd than sharpen blade, and is not even a pvp talent
brazen rock
hey guys its better than doing 8/8 normal and 6/8 heroic and losing every roll to DPS that do less dmg then you (i tank)
worthy fern
@pale crow 25 percent
pale crow
I wish i could punch in the face the guy who had that stupid idea
brazen rock
The thing that bothers me the most is that DH has a 50% healing reduction aoe wi...
its 25% in pvp.
quaint bison
I had a DK tell me "I had a lot of room for improvement" when every game was me literally bannering / bladestorming CC and kiting CDs like a god and still getting owned. Shush dude, your class has like 5 defensives and presses 2 buttons to cleave the whole map
brazen rock
sharpen is actually cracked rn in pvp
worthy fern
All Ms are 25 in pvp outside of shiv sharpen and fury
pale crow
Still, DH doesnt need a mortal wounds effect
brazen rock
i do agree with that
worthy fern
It opened up a lot of comps to dh
brazen rock
fuck dh lmao
worthy fern
Which I don’t have a problem with
brazen rock
delete the class
tribal wedge
neither fury
brazen rock
no refunds
brazen rock
MS should be marks and arms only
craggy socket
Blur is the most retard proof defensive in the game
worthy fern
Legit every spec
craggy socket
Exactly
worthy fern
Even gave it to some casters in some form
craggy socket
if MS is too OP for just warrior to have
then get rid of it
not give it to everyone
esp retard dh
seriously fuckin hate that class
craggy socket
Necrotic wounds was atleast somewhat diffrent
I cant believe how retard proof DH is at low cr
AOE MS lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo
craggy socket
Not even comparable imo
nimble jasper
yeah ret onebang king
craggy socket
Ret has nothing for modern WoW
craggy socket
Their bubble is useless
nimble jasper
cope
craggy socket
ret just gets kited for days against any caster comps
Thats not cope thats literally facts
craggy socket
caster comps are god atm
turbid ember
Devoker too
brazen rock
man hasn't played with a good ret and it shows.
brazen rock
yup
nimble jasper
i hate ret warr as a comp
brazen rock
ret war prevoker
nimble jasper
kind of sad still vanguards is the best ret on NA for multiple expacs
brazen rock
basically pve your way to 2k then get walled by dh/sp/prevoker
nimble jasper
and no one else comes remotely close
brazen rock
can still cheese games though by dragging dh behind pillar
craggy socket
Ret Warr better with arms or fury
brazen rock
arms 100%
brazen rock
i mean fury may be better but fuck fury
earnest ginkgo
if you leave a rated match, do you lose rating
craggy socket
Meh i dont mind fury its fun
earnest ginkgo
what if I unplug the ethernet
craggy socket
yes you lose
turbid ember
What other classes have 50% MS besides Arms and sPriests?
turbid ember
They did try and help that making the debuff 12 sec
craggy socket
sp has an ms now too?! LOL
brazen rock
yes, psyfiend.
brazen rock
but goodluck killing it as melee when they void volley ontop of it.
huehuehue pve in my pvp
copper hare
void volley is like halfed duration now
earnest ginkgo
Is whirlwind worth it in 3v3 matches as fury? like drop a bloodthirst talent point, for some more cleave
copper hare
they won't balance until WF is done
turbid ember
But what if we can "build" units in Arena or just have a constant stream of mobs and divide the arena into "paths". 3 paths should be good.
craggy socket
They literally balanced this week
and they can do pvp tuning, blizzard has been good about balacing updates so far
copper hare
yeah but guilds weren't pulling end boss for 300 trys
craggy socket
True
brazen rock
void volley is like halfed duration now
still, the ability doesn't belong in wow imo.
copper hare
But everytime I wake up I hope to see 29873023% healing nerf to prevoker
wheat crane
Im pretty sure if they just remove nullifying shroud tge class would be fine
copper hare
No
they are able to sustain 70-80k hps in 3s and heal through literal every damage
numbers are the problem.
brazen rock
(reminder you can fear emerald communion)
but yes prevoker numbers + mobility is a bit much.
coral axle
Prevoker definitely shits on melee the hardest out of anything
clear pine
Anyone has some good advanced fury pvp guides?
wheat crane
(reminder you can fear emerald communion)
Seriously?
brazen rock
advanced fury
brazen rock
Seriously?
yes
wheat crane
The uniterruptable move right?
clear pine
im officially stuck at 1550 rating in solo shuffle
wheat crane
Did not know that thought it was like tranq
coral axle
Disorients stop it too
soft idol
Anyone has some good advanced fury pvp guides?
Ive been looking since launch. Havent found any 😔
coral axle
Ive been looking since launch. Havent found any 😔
Advanced fury isn't a real thing
coral axle
Doesn't bajhera still stream/make videos all the time? Idk if he's any good anymore but I'm sure he's at least 2k
clear pine
yeah i watched his last vod solo shuffle. saw some things i need to make better.
very boring games
coral axle
Disorients stop it too
Pretty sure incaps do too
earnest ginkgo
i really dislike the solo shufffleee
you get some people who rage quit then it goes with them for the whole 6 rounds
clear pine
i like it, i can finally play pvp arena
cant do shit in lfg with 18ßß lifetime rating
turbid ember
Ive been looking since launch. Havent found any 😔
Can always subscribe to skill capped :^)
Skillcapped says that Annihilator is a 1h Single Minded Fury build though.
grand scaffold
Skillcapped says that Annihilator is a 1h Single Minded Fury build though.
wha
who runs 1h weapons
brazen rock
being over 2k as fury isnt about being good at fury
its just general arena knowledge and baseline skill
grand scaffold
being over 2k as fury isnt about being good at fury
are you playing arms or fury in solo shuffle atm?
turbid ember
It kinda makes sense though. Flat added damage added to lower damage faster attacking weapons seems more beneficial than adding it to higher base damage slower weapons which seems like it would benefit more from % damage scaling
grand scaffold
It kinda makes sense though. Flat added damage added to lower damage faster atta...
there are also other factors like stats tho
you get more secondary stats including stamina with titans grip
hot solstice
And arms is c tier in pve…imagine pvp performance if it was A-tier at least
brazen rock
on this alt, 1600. got trolled in placements and went 3-3, climbing out of 1400 at 20 points a game basically
copper hare
And arms is c tier in pve…imagine pvp performance if it was A-tier at least
not anymore
grand scaffold
ive swaped to fury
i think im just bad at arms
the worst is when 1 healer is just better than the other
and you get 2-3 wins
and lose cr
brazen rock
really id put arms at high B or low A in any list.
grand scaffold
really id put arms at high B or low A in any list.
and fury?
brazen rock
just DH/assa are so oppressive rn theres no point in any other melee
likely the same as fury is literally just a worse DH
arms atleast brings 50% ms and some crazy on-demand burst.
coral axle
i think im just bad at arms
arms feels a lot harder to me in SS, even if it ends up being better with a good healer in group pvp
brazen rock
the whole arms survive issue is fixed playing with prevoker + another high focus target like feral, sp, or ret.
grand scaffold
arms feels a lot harder to me in SS, even if it ends up being better with a good...
yeah
grand scaffold
the whole arms survive issue is fixed playing with prevoker + another high focus...
true but im talking about solo shuffle
brazen rock
oh
grand scaffold
its like near impossible to play
grand scaffold
if i play 2's or 3's getting high cr isnt an issue
but my friends arent on during the holidays
😦
tribal wedge
i believe in the next up 
(dstance buff pliz)
quick carbon
i was around 2100 cr in shuffle this week as arms its just really lobby dependant
turbid ember
I like solo queue so I can play something else in the background between queues
quick carbon
some lobbies will faarm u into the dirt
grand scaffold
d stance should be 15% 15%
quick carbon
some lobbies u will farm
grand scaffold
not 10% and 20%
grand scaffold
i was around 2100 cr in shuffle this week as arms its just really lobby dependan...
really does seem that way
i think past 1900 it should be fun
but the 1800 players
yikes
earnest ginkgo
is there a guide on high focus pvp targets? I know its dependent on comp
brazen rock
theres alot of what feels like trolling in the 1600-1800 area
grand scaffold
theres *alot* of what feels like trolling in the 1600-1800 area
exactly
people playing bm monk
like tf is that
quick carbon
i qued into a lobby with a frost mage unholy dk and a demon hunter, absolutely destroyed the lobby. next one was feral ret and demo lock
coral axle
like tf is that
LOL I played with the second rated BM monk in US at 2k yesterday
hot solstice
Remember it’s start of the season so it will be easier as season goes on
quick carbon
got absolutely poopeddd o
coral axle
dude was a beast
quick carbon
on
grand scaffold
thats cool
for me it was at 1600 for fury because i just started playing the spec in solo shuffle
the guy caused everybody he played with to lose
was terrible
hot solstice
At least I can see more streamers preferring arms now than it was in so s3-4
coral axle
love that forcing everybody to go 3-3
hot solstice
Sl
grand scaffold
the worst
is when theres a trashy mage or dk
that complains about being bad
then you try to help them
and they say
shut the fuck up
and leave
causing everybody to get 0 cr
coral axle
thats the best way to end a 30 minute queue yeah
turbid ember
First mistake was assuming people wanted feedback in a pvp lobby
coral axle
i've never seen anybody admit they were bad, not even the DH that would pop blur along with spectral sight
quick carbon
sometimes u gotta blur off the mount
grand scaffold
i've never seen anybody admit they were bad, not even the DH that would pop blur...
you shouldve seen this dk
he complained
3x in a row
and i was polite af
coral axle
sometimes u gotta blur off the mount
yeah I clearly do not have the mind of a true DH player
earnest ginkgo
if the que times for solo ques were actually 7 mins id do it all the time
whys it got to be so long
coral axle
because nobody wants to heal
grand scaffold
for getting out of 1600-1800 trolls in solo shuffle what spec should i be playing
coral axle
we are part of the probem! I rerolled from prevoker!
earnest ginkgo
ahh thats sounds like the reason
grand scaffold
because nobody wants to heal
the dampening change was dogshit
was fine last expansion
earnest ginkgo
for getting out of 1600-1800 trolls in solo shuffle what spec should i be playin...
get lucky and learn
grand scaffold
shouldnt have been changed
coral axle
yeah idk its tough, dampening is nice for fast games
but other than prevoker and rdruid nobody can deal with it
quick carbon
my friends hitting people with 100k shield slams apparently, q up prot boys
grand scaffold
but other than prevoker and rdruid nobody can deal with it
well
a good mistweaver is pretty awesome
but how rare are those
coral axle
that is true, but I'd hate playing MW rn
grand scaffold
if there was 1 healer i'de play its mw
quick carbon
mw is kindda insane
turbid ember
The way to play solo queue is to probably just always target whoever your DPS is attacking and make plays from there and don't assume they'll swap to your target when needed. At least in the ELO he'll rating
coral axle
enemy team walking around with 4 ranged instant kicks and CC
brazen rock
2 outs with no real counter
coral axle
yeah prevoker is fun as hell and feels godlike vs melee
grand scaffold
im sure people do tho
grand scaffold
flying your melee back behind pillar
hasnt priest had that like forever
coral axle
CHRONO LOOP IS BUSTED BTW
yeah my actual good pres buddy was doing hilarious shit in actual 3s with that
turbid ember
Prevoker doesn't click with me. I like devoker and pretending I'm a hellfire missile
brazen rock
hasnt priest had that like forever
yeah but this has lower cd and feels better to use
brazen rock
Prevoker doesn't click with me. I like devoker and pretending I'm a hellfire mis...
a good devoker is nuts
brazen rock
easily 45-50k dps into 1 target
undone harbor
Hello i have a question, im rather newbie at pvp trying to improve, as an arm warrior is it mandatory to play with a heal? Or some class makes a good duo? Asking this because as someone with no exp no heal wants to play with me ^^
grand scaffold
and everything else buffed
i saw this 1 evoker who was shitting on everybody
he went 5-0
was so annoying
couldnt kill him
clear pine
Hello i have a question, im rather newbie at pvp trying to improve, as an arm wa...
war is fckd without heal.
turbid ember
Just get them when all their CDs are down :^)
coral axle
Hello i have a question, im rather newbie at pvp trying to improve, as an arm wa...
yeah u probably want a good healer to play arms
fury doesnt need shit tho
turbid ember
I saw the devoker pvp talent build on icy veins, didn't even recommend 4 second speed boost after using it's movement ability. It's so damn good
coral axle
icyveins is straight trash for pvp
undone harbor
So it's either i switch to fury or i just cannot do Arena? 😦
coral axle
I mean, somebody in here just said they got 2k playing arms
so it's certainly possible just gonna be harder
raven hound
I heard Arms is better in a coordinated comp/team
Whatever that is
Me Fury me smash big damage buttons
turbid ember
It's probably better at higher ratings than lower
wheat crane
I mean youll be fine playing arms if you play with a higher prio target
Like spriest affi
Theyll leave you alone
And you can do big dmg
coral axle
yeah arms is legit the most fun spec in the game when left alone
undone harbor
Yeah i noticed im being heavily focused as a warrior, but even when i play tank so idk xD
coral axle
send people to the shadow realm
grand scaffold
icyveins is straight trash for pvp
aside from the warrior guides yeah
warlock guides make no sense
wheat crane
And if they do go on you, well then your affi/soriest globals their whole team free casting
Ret too
Rets good
wheat crane
Was doing some dh spriest with my buddy
brazen rock
SP used CDs
undone harbor
Is there an arm pvp build around that is decent? Id like to compare with what im currently using
wheat crane
Double mele on his dick 24/7 still almost near my dmg
earnest ginkgo
has anyone dropped spear for dragons roar as fury?
coral axle
yeah I think its more damage
wheat crane
void volley ontop of spear
I need to do this good idea
earnest ginkgo
I like the dragons roar since its less skill dependent
sometimes you can just flatout miss
coral axle
every time I miss a spear I just blank face stare at my screen ngl
earnest ginkgo
oh siht i got a que
coral axle
mostly just use it in melee range now....
coral axle
maybe i've just seen bad priests but I feel like war is pretty good vs them
if just for zerker rage alone
coral axle
lol yeah it does that to everybody tho
quick carbon
i like when i hit spear andd bladestorm twice in a row and kill people
most satisfying thing of all time
coral axle
Hellll yeah grats
clear pine
congratz
latent palm
Hey I've been thinking about getting into pvp and the classes I have are DH warrior and DK, what would be the best for someone slightly braindead?
earnest ginkgo
got it
lean burrow
CHRONO LOOP IS BUSTED BTW
does that shit work if dispelled?
it says 5 seconds, but if dispelled, does it fire off sooner or no effect at all?
brazen rock
Hey I've been thinking about getting into pvp and the classes I have are DH warr...
dh
or fury
amber harness
with enhance.. fury or arms right now? feel like arms support is value to enhance
brazen rock
id say arms.
undone pumice
spriest is 37% of all ranged specs in 3v3
rest is lock ele and arcane?
grand scaffold
i hate solo shuffle at times
wtf is is this
stupid ass healer left
on round 4
how can i be penalized with 0 cr for 4 wins
and 0 losses
1 loss*
that should be +60 cr
but nOooOOooOOOOOO
😠
shit ass design
coral axle
yeah I have no idea why the released it like this
grand scaffold
so dogshit
coral axle
seems like a very simple fix
coral axle
we are just $60 beta testing
grand scaffold
like if that shit wasnt there
we'd all be r1 by now
but because of this shitty design
we all getting trolled
😠
amber harness
solo shuffle dumb
grand scaffold
facts
amber harness
ppl should get -200 for leaving
coral axle
they do get like -150
grand scaffold
people who leave because they are losing should recieve bans of 1 day long
because 30 min is just a single que
and it spoils everybody elses day
coral axle
yeah u just dont wanna fuck over true DCs
grand scaffold
yeah u just dont wanna fuck over true DCs
yeah
but im sure blizzard is able to detect that
coral axle
like im sure my power will go out today and i'll freeze to death
grand scaffold
IF THEY ACTUALLY DESIGNED SHIT PROPERLY
coral axle
would suck if I got a 1 day ban too
raven hound
Issue is that they can just pull the Ethernet cable to fake a dc
raw summit
skill issue @grand scaffold
coral axle
not sure u can detect it, you can just pull the plug on ur ethernet and there's no diff
yuppp
raw summit
just dont have em leave 4Head
raven hound
not sure u can detect it, you can just pull the plug on ur ethernet and there's ...
Jinx!
Could probably penalize them for consistent dcs, though
coral axle
yeah def
undone pumice
thats just the normal punishment ig
undone pumice
if u dodge 2+ times in 1 day u should get 1 week ban from solo xd
grand scaffold
^
grand scaffold
if u play warlock instead of warrior you should get permaban
hahahaha
warlock ftw
late nacelle
is there anything more demoralising than queueing for 40 minutes only to have a shit game_
grand scaffold
already 2050 on mine
undone pumice
is there anything more demoralising than queueing for 40 minutes only to have a ...
queeuing for 40 minutes while waiting for a rare, getting a shit game and coming out on top of the rare's corpse
grand scaffold
is there anything more demoralising than queueing for 40 minutes only to have a ...
nope
earnest ginkgo
if I go from rival to combatant, does that affect my weekly vault as in downgrade it?
copper hare
No
earnest ginkgo
good
copper hare
highest always counts
strong scaffold
sry wow/pvp noob here: where can i find a warrior pvp guide - build, gear + pvp dmg rota ?
grand scaffold
sry wow/pvp noob here: where can i find a warrior pvp guide - build, gear + pvp ...
fury or arms
copper hare
fury or arms
I think you're drunk
wheat crane
That fat 400 honor tho
strong scaffold
i heared armes got buffed but is still too sqichy,
undone pumice
u can find fury build @strong scaffold in pins and arms build copy tay or magnusz build
grand scaffold
I think you're drunk
huh
timber igloo
u can find fury build <@297063743379210241> in pins and arms build copy tay or ...
tay or mag?
undone pumice
good woyers
coral axle
https://murlok.io/ for gear/stats/talents
for learning how to play ur best bet is to watch youtube videos
coral axle
do ppl play annihilation in pve?
nimble jasper
yes
undone pumice
annihilator yea
coral axle
ah well yeah should be the same then
coral axle
wasn't sure if it was PvP only because of the extra healing
undone pumice
ngl idk what people mean by pvp rota
theres like some stuff u do in pvp u dont in pve like keep hstring up always is easiest example
nimble jasper
that goes in cc category
undone pumice
but also like holding ms afterdharpen so u dont just give no healing debuff
lethal kestrel
any1 know where to keybind so when im in arenas i can use mousewheel and it will scroll through my party frames
not party frame 1 scroolwheel up and party frame 2 scroolwheel down i want to be able to just scroll up and get to 1 2 3
urban skiff
ppl should get -200 for leaving
-200 mmr as well
coral axle
any1 know where to keybind so when im in arenas i can use mousewheel and it will...
not sure if this is possible, some of the healers I know will just bind party 2 to mouse wheel press, so they can do down for 1, press for 2, up for 3
urban skiff
any1 know where to keybind so when im in arenas i can use mousewheel and it will...
You can do that with two macros. Something like if target is party 1 then target party 2. Repeat up and down
coral axle
again!?!?!??!?!!?!??!
just log out man
copper hare
You have to beat the system, leave before they do it!
grand scaffold
haha
like wtf
why cant people just play the game
like if you arent capable of that
QUIT
lethal kestrel
You can do that with two macros. Something like if target is party 1 then target...
are u sure? i saw athene stream he literally binded something and it worked like that
urban skiff
You sure it wasn't just party 1 and party2? did they need to target themselves?
coral axle
the conditional macro should work just fine i'd think
brazen rock
wild part is they lose more rating already by leaving
its not about that
literally they want to deprive people of rating
coral axle
true
brazen rock
"fuck you for playing X class, heres your wasted time"
coral axle
and I love blizz for giving them tat power
urban skiff
why cant people just play the game
right now playing the game is leaving if you're looking to lose a lot of rating. Meta is dropping CR without losing MMR to quickly recoup.
It's a shit system
coral axle
wild that ur MMR doesn't go down too
urban skiff
It's easier to get 100 rating back if your MMR is higher than it is to get 60-80 back if your MMR also goes down with a loss.
coral axle
I guess to prevent smurfing???
thats why u just gotta give a 1 day ban to people who do it more than once
or like 48 hour deserter
grand scaffold
It's easier to get 100 rating back if your MMR is higher than it is to get 60-80...
interesting
urban skiff
And another one joins the cheesy fray of leaving
undone pumice
urban skiff
thick reef
Hey folk s I'm trying to get into PVP just for the faction rep to further the story honestly. I'm just wondering if fury or arms would be better for hopping into battlegrounds. And same question for arenas.
I appreciate it may not be a simple answer, but I was hoping one might edge the other out
thick reef
Ok cool thank you
tranquil raven
Fury needs DnB in background
urban skiff
dnb?
tranquil raven
Drum and bass
grand scaffold
oh
tranquil raven
But dragonballs cant hurt either
late nacelle
should just roll resto druid tbh
click some thorns
toss some hots
do some 100% hp swiftmend heals
sly furnace
Seems like its a lottery solo shuffle:) went 15-3
late nacelle
ye idk
i got into 2 games
without healers today
2 tanks instead of healers
as arms
basically 0/6 instantly
urban skiff
currently 36/66 in shuffle rounds and ended up at 1445. Haven't lost any rating yet so idk what
vagrant sorrel
love waiting 45 mins for a solo shuffle que only for someone to leave right away
late nacelle
best part is
when 5/6 accept
6th declines
and then somehow
it puts u at the back of the queue again
vagrant sorrel
just happened to me
undone pumice
Drum and bass
u mean hardstyle
vagrant sorrel
another thing that happened last night I won I was 4/5 rounds won and on the 6th someone left