2 button specs
#pvp
green wyvern
sly furnace
Many fotm from SL?:)
pearl prism
"Salvo has been redesigned"
I'm going to bed. Just remember someone in here said "Salvo has been redesigned" does not mean a redesign
silk flicker
Braff is typing...
mild thunder
No one here said that
pearl prism
redesign =/= redesign
mild thunder
Find the message, Braff
modest kindle
Side note, normal 389 and 398 2 set worth it in arena for arms?
pearl prism
you did, you said the changes are just nerfs and buffs
Out of respect, you dont need to give dumb comebacks
Just chill
Let peole make their points, and only reply when you need to
mild thunder
Dude you were saying warrior was getting redesigned every week
proven maple
A line added is a rework cuz you had to rework your line drawing tool and design a straight line to make connections when then is a rework cuz that line has to be reworked and made to exist me which is a redesign because the line wasn’t there and then it is so redesigned line. Very clear rework redesign come on you see the new line don’t be so dull
mild thunder
When it’s literally just getting buffs and nerfs
proven maple
Only reply when you need to please about the clear line redesign
silk flicker
The more I look at this it must be trolling
mild thunder
Let peole make their points, and only reply when you need to
Next time, only make a point when the point is actually a point
deep meadow
Hiiiiii. Can someone summarize how everyones perception of fury warrior went from really good to really bad in the span of two weeks?
pearl prism
"Shuffled the positions of some nodes towards the end of the tree and added some new connections to try and aid the creation of more general builds."
mild thunder
Every time you posted tonight, it brought the collective IQ of this channel down
pearl prism
This is not redesign/reworking the spec?
worn flame
Hiiiiii. Can someone summarize how everyones perception of fury warrior went fro...
nerf after nerf after nerf
pearl prism
"Shuffled the positions of some nodes towards the end of the tree and added some new connections to try and aid the creation of more general builds."
mild thunder
This is not redesign/reworking the spec?
No
pearl prism
Thats just a 'nerf and/or buff'?
silk flicker
Nah it got reworked too many times bro don't you read
proven maple
"Shuffled the positions of some nodes towards the end of the tree and added some...
Please only reply when you need to you haven’t commented on the added line you are just redesigning comments. Stop that
mild thunder
You could say it’s a rearrangement
deep meadow
I mustve missed those nerfs
mild thunder
But no it’s not a redesign or rework
deep meadow
But i do notice a lack of damage
pearl prism
Galachad
proven maple
A reassessment that rearranged the replies to the rework that was redesigned
mild thunder
Braff, I don’t respect you because I’m afraid I’ll get brain cancer if I do
pearl prism
adding in multiple new talents, and redesigning the talent tree, is not nerfs and buffs
Like tis just not
mild thunder
Can you define what a rework/redesign is?
pearl prism
My IQ is high enough to know that
lucid walrus
"i respect you" --> discredits you
proven maple
Or a rearrangement
silk flicker
Then please let us know
proven maple
My IQ is high enough to know that
Is it though
How about revised talent connections
Instead
mild thunder
Revision would probably be the best term
pearl prism
I guess im the only one on this discord that thinks redesigning a talent tree and adding in multiple new talents is better described as a spec redesign, rather than 'buffs and nerfs'
cinder thorn
Guys BTW this is a pvp channel about wow pvp not chat pvp
proven maple
Yes a revision perhaps really sums it up. Most clearly
proven maple
^ also the only guy on discord evidently
lean burrow
no toxicity in my christian wow server
mild thunder
Braff - if I call it a redesign in my definition of redesign, maybe they’ll think it’s a redesign
pearl prism
which one is it?
lean burrow
pearl prism
Youve changed your definition now though
mild thunder
Galachad, so 10 mins ago you say these are 'nerfs and buffs'
It’s almost like I used different terms for different changes we were talking about at different points
proven maple
I really see it as a renormalizing
cinder thorn
Moar moarrrr
pearl prism
You said, unequivocally, the changes to arms are just nerfs and buffs
scroll up
read
mild thunder
You were talking about week to week warrior changes - those were nerfs and buffs
In reference to the .0.5 changes, they would probably be a revision
pearl prism
hahahahha
proven maple
A redistribution actually
mild thunder
The actual fundamentals of the spec, how it plays, how it works, the identity etc are unchanged. There has been no rework or redesign
pearl prism
Anyway, was actually comical to watch you shift your language
silk flicker
Braff you said you were going to bed but here you still are -arguing with people about lines of code and pixels.
So which is it?
pearl prism
Thank you for indirectly admitting defeat
Matthew good point
Good night 123 fury warriors
mild thunder
He’s expended the last of his brain cells and can now sleep peacefully
silk flicker
Must have reworked his sleep schedule
mild thunder
True, I did admit defeat indirectly in this debate
proven maple
Clearly
short glacier
What a goofy goober that guy is
mild thunder
Thoroughly owned via facts and logic
proven maple
Someone had to be the bigger man and reassess then reassure
mild thunder
I would be remiss if I didn’t admit defeat
cinder thorn
This chat room.really needs a mod
lucid walrus
put a ring on her finger and call it reworking redesigning buffingreallocating the family tree
lucid walrus
This chat room.really needs a mod
once upon a time we had one
mild thunder
Idk if there’s anyone with enough patience to mod this shitshow
lucid walrus
haven't for a couple years now
mild thunder
Clearly Archi ignores this server lmao
silk flicker
Mod got reworked
lucid walrus
archi's job isn't modding tbf
mild thunder
Good, Archi doesn’t like me cause I roasted some guy for saying arms has too many binds
I don’t need him in here
lucid walrus
lmfao
it's weird seeing people say that and then claim we're a 3 button spec
we are but still
proven maple
Sounds like an indirect admiral of defeat
mild thunder
Ngl arms has very few buttons in PvP atm
Especially since like 2-3 are dead buttons
Slam, ww and rend
lucid walrus
i'm sitting here between gcds looking for something to do with my hand
if only i had a button that was:
a) off gcd
b) able to keep me alive
mild thunder
It’ll change with the 10.0.5 rework
lucid walrus
thinking about her again 
mild thunder
thinking about her again <:sadga:869134702970273812>
lucid walrus
tfw no IP
lean burrow
Slam, ww and rend
slam/rend not needed on arms?
hollow ibex
Hey. 16 strife, not sure what to spend on. Thoughts? Mostly playing Fury rn but will likely play Arms as well, esp if it's continually improved.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/frostmane/rízerri
lean burrow
I like chunky mortal strikes, but pressing slam/rend is giga cringe for me
so I stay fury
lucid walrus
rend actually feels okay to me
mild thunder
slam/rend not needed on arms?
I mean, you use them
But they’re shit
In .0.5 we’ll probably always take sks
So rend will actually have a use
lean burrow
that's even worse for me 
lucid walrus
used in conjunction with sks, i can LARP as if i have another button that hits like MS would
mild thunder
Simple fix to sks
lean burrow
unless there's gonna be some macro with rend+sks
lucid walrus
only way to macro that is castsequence
lean burrow
I miss SL arms with only mortal strikes
mild thunder
Exploiter arms and battlelord arms were so fun
I already miss my 40s magic damage spears
lean burrow
I got 2 braincells, I want mortal strikes and overpower
mild thunder
Or condemning through bop
lean burrow
instead blizz gives 6 buttons
mild thunder
It’s perfectly possible to have a fun, intricate spec with ~4 buttons
But those buttons need to have a lot more going on than ours do
The only interconnectivity we have is OP and mortal strike
lucid walrus
I got 2 braincells, I want mortal strikes and overpower
i felt this way too until i tried leveling ww
that entire spec is a juggling minigame and it’s great
silk flicker
Playing ww is the game play equivalent of eating gravel
lean burrow
but arms button bloat is cringe
scarlet barn
Was comical to watch them both
dawn saffron
I'm new to pvp, have always been playing arms at pve and starting to do ranked 3s
is arms viable to get higher ranks?
Feels like I can't do a thing to stay alive lol
wispy sail
if im against resto druids, who should i focus?
cinder thorn
if im against resto druids, who should i focus?
Good question
wispy sail
i feel like i cant kill restos and they just kite me forever so I should probably go the DPS
mild thunder
i felt this way too until i tried leveling ww
ww is objectively the best designed dps in the game
no one can change my mind
except Braff - the god debater
lean burrow
if im against resto druids, who should i focus?
swap from cenarion ward to other dps
wispy sail
what ability is cenarion ward?
lucid walrus
little green barrier around the target although trying to eyeball it is bad
lucid walrus
tldr you’re not killing anything while that’s up
wispy sail
what do you guys do against warlocks? the best method i found was just let them come to you
and wait for dampening
basically won every round like that
wispy sail
bc i cba to play around their shitty portals
lean burrow
if it works it's 5head strategy
lucid walrus
decent locks are rarely gonna leave their portal playground
you sort of get used to it
lean burrow
if it's demo: break fel obelisk, fear everything on nether portal/tyrant, kick/kill tyrant itself
mystic barn
that’s why you grip them out
raw summit
gj lads
lean burrow
afflock: kick anything
raw summit
one step closer to stormforged 🙏
mystic barn
I should get stormforged
lucid walrus
raw summit
because
mystic barn
taught scooberz how to use hamstring at 2500
muted surge
Borhanix should get banned
raw summit
taught scooberz how to use hamstring at 2500
good point
mystic barn
my first act as stormforged would be banning Borhanix forever
muted surge
my first act as stormforged would be banning Borhanix forever
I vote for you
raw summit
🙏
mystic barn
And then I come for scooberz
raw summit
garrosh did nothing wrong man
cinder thorn
😄
scarlet barn
Thats very straightforward way to put it
bright stream
went from feeling powerful but could die
to easily controlled, easy to kill, and not a lot of dam
ashen linden
Is the play going back to arms for pvp? I did that last season and was looking forward to fury
delicate bronze
bright stream
havent played much arms yet, just trying to get some solo shuffle games in
lean burrow
in shuffle games vs dh+ass rogue, who is easier to kill?
tribal wedge
you
ashen linden
Id try for the rogue but depends on CD usage
tribal wedge
would say rogue until eva, then dh until blur then you sit and wait all of this thing to be over
lean burrow
also, feral seems OP rn
modest kindle
So now it has settled a bit in here, would 389 and 398 2set be worth it for arms over honor gear?
steel trout
So now it has settled a bit in here, would 389 and 398 2set be worth it for arms...
id say so yea
undone vector
new to fury warrior pvp, where should i start?
grand scaffold
new to fury warrior pvp, where should i start?
like in terms of improving?
undone vector
like builds and playstyle etc
grand scaffold
if you on highping use the roar build in pins
fury just runs people over
against tyrant or frost mage's ridiculous burst run to a pillar
heroic leap against massive cd's
dmg is just super simple wouldnt be worried about that
mainly practice on cc and running
and using defensives properly
smexxin and mud are pretty good streamers to watch imo
magnusz is also really good
and
duel people a lot
thats really important
nimble dirge
if you can sit on frost mage as warrior is the mage even playing
grand scaffold
if you can sit on frost mage as warrior is the mage even playing
idk they seem to have a lot of insta cast stuff
undone vector
@grand scaffold thanks for the rundown, ill look into that build, thank you very much
grand scaffold
😄
also
i would try playing arms atm it seems to be a lot more fun
but fury is nice for beginners because its straight forward
undone vector
well i have a prevoker/havoc/me atm so going for zugzug comp
grand scaffold
cool
copper hare
fun experience if prevoker is able to sustain 70-80k hps through a 30% dampening shuffle
great design blizzard
10/10
bright stream
if you can sit on frost mage as warrior is the mage even playing
you wont really be sitting on them
thin fossil
average random bg for the weeky quest
wheat jay
fun experience if prevoker is able to sustain 70-80k hps through a 30% dampening...
Prevoker absolutely has to be nerfed
Time dilation too
copper hare
he legit hit a 190k spirit bloom
wheat jay
Lol
golden bloom
Hello guys, I'm just hitted 70 and started to play pvp as arms. All cool at this moment, but I'm wondering, what piece of conquest gear could give me maximum boost.
Should I spend all my conq for 2h sword crit+vers, or maybe buy two piece of valuable gear like chest/head/legs?
tight imp
Anyone else having sparks of life quest bugged? Im 100% sure im in war mode, ive killed a bunch of players in WPVP and looted 2 or 3 war crates + that water chest and not a single spark of life
frustrating as hell
golden bloom
Heard abou that quest but haven't manage to find npc who start it
tight imp
hes in th e room you get honor / conquest rewards from
nocturne forge
Hey guys, is it at all possible to reach Gladiator solo?
nimble dirge
no
gloomy river
Did every streamer got weapon in vault wtf
worthy fern
@tight imp are you sure your in the right zone
Quest only applies to certain zone per week
tight imp
Quest only applies to certain zone per week
Oh shit really? I did not know that part, that must ne why
idle cliff
What enchants are you guys using on your weapons?
tight imp
Had one other question, I got the 2h sword from vault, now have 1900 conquest. Should I buy 2nd weapon with it? Or couple other pieces?
idle cliff
Had one other question, I got the 2h sword from vault, now have 1900 conquest. S...
Get the bloody token one that goes up to 421 and get conquest pieces I think
worn flame
nah get weapon and use bloody token to get a 2set bonus vers
quaint snow
NICE 👍
coarse dagger
In queue for solo for a while, get up to pee, queue popped. ._.
quaint snow
nah get weapon and use bloody token to get a 2set bonus vers
set bonus doenst work in arena i think
dark topaz
Is arms the play again? every warrior player i see swapped to arms after weekly reset lol
worn flame
set bonus doenst work in arena i think
well then, it's atleast good for wpvp 😛
white briar
Both seem fine. You'll probably have an easier time against spell cleaves as Fury. And probably in Shuffle too.
bright stream
In queue for solo for a while, get up to pee, queue popped. ._.
bluetooth headset son
white briar
But Arms fucking chunks now.
coarse dagger
Arms chunked before the patch. People really slept on it.
Bleed build is ass from my experience.
worn flame
cries in having all conq gear for fury
white briar
Nah, bleed build pumps. Diff playstyle so maybe not for everyone.
bright stream
But Arms fucking chunks now.
I kinda regret going all in on fury lmao
white briar
Burst windows every 24 secs is great fun.
bright stream
poor choices team
elfin surge
warrior is dead.
scarlet barn
No u
bright stream
warrior is dead.
you reckon is bad now with changes?
coarse dagger
Burst windows every 24 secs is great fun.
Way longer than Skullsplitter. I preferred the direct damage, since it's spikier outside of cooldowns.
dark topaz
warrior is dead.
lol
dark topaz
Way longer than Skullsplitter. I preferred the direct damage, since it's spikier...
same tbh
so it's just the bleed build that hits hard or?
coarse dagger
Bleed is interesting, but I just don't think it hits hard enough outside of cooldown burst. It never felt like I was doing intimidating numbers overall.
It can burst really hard, but you're kinda banking on a high crit roll for the bleed detonation.
For maximum burst with cooldowns up you have you refresh Rend and Deep Wounds before dropping Skullsplitter, and then hope most of it crits.
Optimistic for me was about 50% crit on all of it.
Meanwhile, MS only has to crit once.
pearl prism
warrior is dead.
mud you rerolling?
elfin surge
mud you rerolling?
no
pearl prism
10.0.5 arms might restore the dream
white briar
Feels like bleed has a more consistent damage profile over all, with frequent, smaller burst windows, and super scary Avatar/Warbreaker setups. Spear/Unhinged is far chonkier, but you're probably not doing scary shit outside a Warbreaker.
Idk, I like both
bright stream
how people finding fury in their games?
did ~3 sets of SQ, first 2 sets felt like garbage, 3rd one was okay
white briar
I also feel like I have to take storm as a PvP talent when I run unhinged, which is a bit annoying.
calm nimbus
is legs with tier set or just pvp chest the way to go from vault? I guess the legs maybe
bright stream
is legs with tier set or just pvp chest the way to go from vault? I guess the le...
leg tier
(if its pvp)
stuck mulch
@bright stream just w8 for sp. Assa. Lock nerfs
Soon 
Shirley not another buff next week
green wyvern
@elfin surge how does arms kitty feel?
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> how does arms kitty feel?
idk only played fury
weary sky
Braff, I don’t respect you because I’m afraid I’ll get brain cancer if I do
Braff wasnt right but you must be the most toxic user I have seen lol.And i am in many discords. You need to be a big looser to take things this personal in the pvp warriors discord xD
elfin surge
i q with a disc priest, kinda forced to play fury.
weary sky
i q with a disc priest, kinda forced to play fury.
And how do you see fury in the overall meta?
stuck mulch
Dead
elfin surge
And how do you see fury in the overall meta?
its okay ig
warrior in 2s is the most awful experience ever tho
stuck mulch
Warrior 3s with a dk feels pretty aight tho. I like that
green wyvern
dh/dk is just way better
weary sky
With dh is nice yeah
bright stream
<@128065908781350912> just w8 for sp. Assa. Lock nerfs <:critcake:98454983251134...
casters in general feel real rough, I'm just grinding SQ after work most days anyway - gave up on the LFG experience during SL after only finding toxic players 9/10 times
WFH tho, so maybe I just get it going in the background
short glacier
Demo seems super solid
spice hornet
Demo is op
hot solstice
Arms damage is fine…the problem is such specs as assa feral dh r overtuned
weary sky
warrior in 2s is the most awful experience ever tho
I had fun as fury… still 1.7 in 2s so that might change
bright stream
if arms had ignore pain it'd be sick, kit seems whack as hell without it
melee 2s in general fucking sucks
eventually you just hit the wall of Rogue+Mage/Priest, Hunter/RDruid, and whatever flavor of melee+healer is good and it's painful
every win feels awful and takes way too long
green wyvern
feels like they are deliberately making warrior bad
we have to pay for our SL crimes
bright stream
feels like they are deliberately making warrior bad
as long as it has the numbers to play, warrior will be top tier, without the numbers it'll be mid tier
bright stream
its kinda like rogue/mage, the kits so strongly designed for pvp it will always have a spot
green wyvern
depends on your definition of bad
it's worse than dh/dk/rogue
which will make your LFG life a nightmare
but if you have a team it's alright I guess
bright stream
it's worse than dh/dk/rogue
nah it's similar to dh, much better than dk, similar/worse than rogue
only reason you think its better than dk is because you haven't played enough dk
green wyvern
dude dk cranks
hot solstice
nah it's similar to dh, much better than dk, similar/worse than rogue
Ahaha nice joke
green wyvern
dk dmg buffs were huge
bright stream
dk dmg buffs were huge
wasn't dmg that was the problem
green wyvern
and its tier set is insane
bright stream
dk has done 2 things well for a decade in pvp, damage and survive
anytime one is not good, the class gets farmed at high rating by many comps
green wyvern
it does everything better than warrior rn
weary sky
Its worse than rogue but not that lower than dh. I dont jnow, the number 11 in 3v3 is a warrior in US and 28 for 2v2
bright stream
it'll be propped up in the caster meta, as melee comes good, it'll dip as the survivability doesn't hold up
weary sky
it does everything better than warrior rn
Not pressure tho, warriors are better than dks on that i believe
bright stream
warrior (fury) has better defensive tools
weary sky
You have almost constant uptime with good dps
slim remnant
So we buy legs and belt with blood currency and weapon with conquest this week? as fury that is
vapid rover
@indigo spindle 
knotty tangle
Is there any double dps comps that works with warr?
indigo spindle
what subsection legion?
vapid rover
PvP
indigo spindle
I got it ty ser
dense spear
Hey guys I couldn’t find much info on it but if I get 2400 will I also get the bow elite mog because warriors can use all weapons ?
proud breach
is it worth to upgrade honor items?
knotty tangle
No
warm portal
is it worth to upgrade honor items?
Only if you really care about the pve ilvl it provides, but generally no not worth
bright stream
Hey guys I couldn’t find much info on it but if I get 2400 will I also get the b...
you can buy all the cosmetic items yes
mild thunder
Braff wasnt right but you must be the most toxic user I have seen lol.And i am i...
you have to be a goober to think i take any of this seriously
proud breach
Only if you really care about the pve ilvl it provides, but generally no not wor...
exactly what i was wondering, thanks for the answer!
warm portal
What is sockets recomendation for arms? <:Pepexecute:595606525272391710>
Whichever you prefer is ok
Haste+vers
Crit+vers
weary sky
you have to be a goober to think i take any of this seriously
you have to if you have 100 texts discussing the use of the word rework lol. Like seriously man, its pretty obvious to the rest
delicate fable
Whichever you prefer is ok
Haste+vers
Crit+vers
Ty
mild thunder
you have to if you have 100 texts discussing the use of the word rework lol. Lik...
pretty sure everybody else knows that it wasnt a serious debate or argument, bud
bright stream
@weary sky this is what solo queue does to a persons brain
weary sky
man you are always toxic
bright stream
we're 6 months away from this being an anti-vax channel lmao
weary sky
but to each thei rown
weary sky
<@475450304599556098> this is what solo queue does to a persons brain
specially soloq is the only thing you do. Cant imagine
mild thunder
im pretty sure the most toxic people in this disc are the ones that PM people to hassle them and then block them - something i havent done... yet
weary sky
im pretty sure the most toxic people in this disc are the ones that PM people to...
didnt even know that was a thing lol Thats not toxic, thats being sick
weary sky
is fury bad at pvp
no
earnest ginkgo
it just dies all the time
weary sky
i mean, it might have some problems but thats not one of them
earnest ginkgo
it just dies
is there a ballpark frame for bloodthrist healing
like average healing
weary sky
not sure for that, but its easy to heal yourself 600-1mill in a 3v3
earnest ginkgo
i guess its just luck then
scenic maple
your survivability should be fairly good playing Fury, combo Bloodthirst with Enraged Regen to max up hp
Impending Victory every 25 seconds for 30% hp
disarm a melee tearing into you, fears if you have to, LEAP away, whatever it takes if you're on deaths door
Bloodthirst itself is just a low sustained hp gainer like having leech for example, it alone isn't what's considered "OP" by all these forum ragers
earnest ginkgo
I get about 800k healing per 3s game
nimble dirge
as arms are you going for crit/haste or crit/mastery?
earnest ginkgo
is there any pvp weak auras for like roots or cyclones?
lean burrow
i just keep dying despite bloodthirsting amongst other tihngs
dstance when you are off stun DR against stun specs
can try to line ranged
like demonic tyrant
spell reflect gives 20% (magic) wall, use it more
spice hornet
Demo will kill you through your own warrior CDs you need to line
Otherwise healer will have to give you some and you now overreacted
spice hornet
Nah that’s good too
Sadly they still do a lot of dam, I think pitlord auto attacks for nearly 20k alone
lean burrow
if I try to line in shuffle, my teammates will keep standing in open like doofoos
spice hornet
Way too many demons
night verge
is there some go to weakaura collection for df yet that ppl use for pvp?
clear pine
lol 32min solo shuffle queue pops and everyone is on the same team
lean burrow
clear pine
game ended after 2 seconds, atleast we didnt lose rating 
scenic maple
the best solo shuffle comp ever was 2 warriors, 2 tanks, 2 rando dps
turbid ember
I don't understand what that blue post stated, it seemed overly-general.
thick reef
I don't understand what that blue post stated, it seemed overly-general.
They shat the bed on the backend, and are working on it
crude bane
not a clown mode give you 2K4 MMR after 18 game
cinder lake
Does leaving the soloq decreases your rating?i had 5 wins and in last game a hunter left
will not get decreased rating?i got zero
cinder lake
RIP HIM xD
scenic maple
is that active now as of this reset?
thick reef
Does leaving the soloq decreases your rating?i had 5 wins and in last game a hun...
You also don't lose mmr
turbid ember
Does it treat force closes and DCs the same?
quaint snow
leavers get 6 losses and deserter buff was life before DF launched i think
thick reef
Does it treat force closes and DCs the same?
iirc yes
quaint snow
my friend joined a solo shuffle yday, after 2 rounds he got deserter and -150 rating…. GG blizz
its bugged AF
cyan heath
anyone have a nice fury pvp talent build i can grab ?
turbid ember
Pins
scenic maple
is tier from vault only scaled for PvP if it drops in the PvP choices?
undone pumice
yes
scenic maple
thank you
undone pumice
and sometime around jan 20 u can turn ur pvp stuff into tier regardless of anything
i think its around then not sure
granite wing
Hello Follower of Smashing and Crushing Heads. I have a big question and problem: How I can kill DemonHunter and Warlocks.... One is Bursting me down since seconeds and the other is more Tanky than Ragnaros.
undone pumice
vs locks
take wrecking throw + demolition
very good
vs dh always have disarm and then just hope he sucks messes up trading cds
undone pumice
they press meta and kill you with it and during that jump u cant cc
and theyhave evasion on 1min cd and darkness as defensives
simple as
drowsy wasp
looks like top of ladder warriors all switched to arms
coarse dagger
The burst on Arms is nice
cyan heath
so the spear build for pvp that mud pinned a while back, you dont have raging blow, you just focus bloodthirst and rampage?
i feel so naked without raging blow
scenic maple
Yea that's the Annihilator build, and fill with Slam/WW when needed
scenic maple
Yea it's kinda sustain dmg/never die and hope your 1.5s can burst enough for ks
cyan heath
what is the 1.5s burst, combo of recklessness odyns fury and spear?
coral axle
hey guys, new warrior here. I've been playing fury the last few days and it's seemed mostly self explanatory but now I want to try arms out and things seem a little more complicated than pressing bloodthirst nonstop. are there any good streamers or videos covering arms pvp rn?
I also dont fully understand how rage gain works, is it just from auto attacks and spear/bladestorm/avatar?
wheat crane
what is the 1.5s burst, combo of recklessness odyns fury and spear?
Avatar, reck, roar/spear all 1.5 min
Odyn 45 sec
wheat crane
And yea its really not bad without raging blow since, i dont know if its intended, bloodbath is a seperate cd from bloodthirst
So you end up just spamming rampage then bloodthirst/bath 3 times then rampage again
You really do rarely run into a dead global
Even then just hamstring something or whirlwind
cinder lake
Any idea why all of a sudden macros stopped working inside arena and now they do not work even in general??heroic leap for example..intervene etc
scenic maple
No reason, re-launch game and see what's up imo
sharp meteor
My focus stuff on a few chars randomly broke.
worn flame
same, had to delete and recreate macros then worked
rotund thunder
What are the stats people are prioritizing for arms right now? What and vers?
Crit, Haste, or MasterY?
sharp meteor
they all good
cinder lake
@worn flame all of a sudden working now..seems there is a thing when you press many buttons at th same time it bugs or smthng.if u press alt fast they do work again though
idk weird
latent spear
Is there a site like warcraftlogs that shows what PVP players are using?
lean burrow
and theyhave evasion on 1min cd and darkness as defensives
still better than blur on 40 sec cd
brazen rock
assa nerfed btw
idk i just crit one for 150k
winged quest
@latent spear murlok io
rugged rivet
winged quest
the website was made by a friend of mine
i used to do boxing with him
s/o shy,
shyn
drowsy wasp
Does arms counter evasion and blur?
latent spear
Thank you @undone pumice @winged quest @rugged rivet this is exactly what i was looking for
lean burrow
Does arms counter evasion and blur?
overpower only
brazen rock
Does arms counter evasion and blur?
nothing does, target something else.
rotund thunder
Is there a site like warcraftlogs that shows what PVP players are using?
Just look at the arena leaderboards, all saved builds are public and if they logged out in their gear you can see it
winged quest
for arena leaderboards the best is pvp check
brazen rock
pins
winged quest
pin
winged quest
don't do it
undone pumice
good enchant but overpriced
lyric violet
Ok
raw summit
just dont spend
winged quest
the 140 vers
raw summit
wait till price drops
winged quest
will not get u more
lyric violet
its strength
lyric violet
okay so just buy the 20k one?
lyric violet
i mean i got 450k
winged quest
save ur gold
lyric violet
but not tryna spend a wow cards worth of gold
winged quest
overprice for nothing
safe harness
Buy gold sophic writ cheaper and almost same
coral axle
are the stat enchants the go-to now? when I checked murlok yesterday it seemed like everybody was using the frozen damage one
undone pumice
both r good but i think frozen can sometimes break fear because of racist coding
winged quest
its not a enchant that gonna get you 2400 cr
coral axle
vers seems nice, I just started playing arms for the first time today and killing does not seem to be the issue
lyric violet
nah i know that but every advantage helps right?
winged quest
i dont think the 0.5% dps u gain will change a lot
but if people want to minmax u can
but in pvp unless ur top it does not change a lot
imo
hybrid steppe
what should i get for now
winged quest
what should i get for now
spec ?
coral axle
the 2* enchants are dirt cheap
winged quest
yeah
hybrid steppe
fury
winged quest
the benefit u gain from big enchant its not worth 150k gold
cinder lake
why almost everyone is orc fury warr and not tauren?am i th only one xD?
winged quest
i mean 150k gold is almost 10€
distant bane
thats a ton of utils too
hybrid steppe
their both crist verst?
brazen rock
their both crist verst?
then it doesnt matter
distant bane
why almost everyone is orc fury warr and not tauren?am i th only one xD?
tauren is G too due to stun, but orc has that 560AP racial
hybrid steppe
no it doesnt right haha
brazen rock
why almost everyone is orc fury warr and not tauren?am i th only one xD?
because orc was meta for years
and race changes cost money
and racials dont win you matches
distant bane
human is G too
cinder lake
@distant bane I mostly agree with aa varughh.,.has a point
undone pumice
tauren has the bonus crit racial that pretty good but if ur not dwarf ur offmeta already who cares
distant bane
1600?
undone pumice
- giving sin rogues depression
brazen rock
875 + 291 per effect removed up to 3
arctic igloo
rogue complaining about something that's good against them name a better duo
undone pumice
goofy
cinder lake
but tauren though you have extra free stamina..increased crit dmg and Healing 2%..and an extra aoe stun that can help you do 1 more execute on target especially range on..no one expects th war stomp..i mean i find it better than orc xD
undone pumice
rogue complaining about something that's good against them name a better duo
idk i dont think racials should invalidate an entire spec's burst
brazen rock
idk i dont think assa rogues should exist.
undone pumice
imo if tauren had anything other than war stomp it would be good
winged quest
laugh in dragoon
brazen rock
prevokers in charge of invalidating every mdps in the game
undone pumice
🏴☠️
brazen rock
kekw.
winged quest
a race than can't be cc ? hm why not
undone pumice
not like its a race just a class thats tied to a race like dhs
but like even harder limited
brazen rock
tbf if dracthyr get warriors im race changing insta
doubt it cuz the racials seem part of the control toolkit of evoker but still
undone pumice
if we get the buff dracthyrs
elfin surge
undone pumice
and woyers
undone pumice
<a:chatting:1036769769543704576>
literally me
brazen rock
hi mud
high abyss
Can you afford to lose Vicious Contempt or Bloodcraze to take Massacre for arenas or would it not be worth?
copper hare
undone pumice
Can you afford to lose Vicious Contempt or Bloodcraze to take Massacre for arena...
no
copper hare
xd
undone pumice
execute on fury XD
coral axle
execute on fury seems to do less dmg than the empowered bloodthirst
high abyss
Got it, I normally play Arms but Arms isnt doign so hot so trying Fury
undone pumice
arms is doing hot
coral axle
idk about arms not doing hot, I just switched today and have been having a fucking crazy time
undone pumice
you just arent
coral axle
the damage is actually insane
spice hornet
why can mage ice floes and cast poly while moving? i thought they did away with that design, i remember when lock used to kiljadeens cunning and fear people while moving
high abyss
Really? Everyone was saying it was bad, is it better since the buffs?
spice hornet
arms dam good but it is too squishy
undone pumice
it just fucking kills you now but it also still just keels over and dies
coral axle
yeah after the buffs the damage is cataclysmic, IDK what im doing and I was still shadow realming people
with avatar and colossus up and a sudden death proc somebody dies immediately
high abyss
I'll try Arms again then, I'm more familiar with it and havent played it since the buffs
undone pumice
skullsplitterbuild is funny as hell
cinder lake
So next conquest will be extra 550 next week?
undone pumice
charge pop cds rend sharpen skullsplitter gg
elfin surge
@spice hornet we good?
spice hornet
we not good warrior sucks @elfin surge
elfin surge
⚠️ WARNING ⚠️
DO NOT QUEUE 2S AS WARRIOR
lyric violet
LOL
undone pumice
⚠️ WARNING ⚠️
DO NOT QUEUE 2S AS WARRIOR
winged quest
y?
coral axle
If you convince everybody it sucks enough you get more buffs ez math
undone pumice
wtf based mich?
nimble jasper
hybrid steppe
best fury weapon enchants rn?
nimble jasper
i love dh players btw
undone pumice
best fury weapon enchants rn?
sophic devotion
mud how many warriors u have ready now
brazen rock
⚠️ WARNING ⚠️
DO NOT QUEUE 2S AS WARRIOR
yo you didnt let me bandage you yesterday
i qued as prot by mistake and you got mad 😦
hybrid steppe
100k gawdddamn
elfin surge
Hello,
I just rerolled Assa Rogue and it turns out, I'm actually really good at it. It just comes natural to me, my rating is climbing every game!
I've been struggling as warrior the last few years being stuck around 1300, but after playing rogue for 4 days, I just hit my first duelist! I'm even beating rank 1s and streamers!
I'm just happy I finally found the class that fits me and i'm naturally gifted at!
scenic maple
gg no re
turbid ember
God bless
nimble jasper
Hello,
I just rerolled Assa Rogue and it turns out, I'm actually really good at...
sauce for pasta
spice hornet
mud be too good at writing those...
cant wait til more ppl find out about muds hidden alt acc where he plays rogue
too funny
petkick told me about it
anyway, nerf spriest and demo
undone pumice
spice hornet
50k DP ticks, 100k mindgames crit into a 78k death
void volley the map every 30 seconds
undone pumice
i LOVE PVE I LOVE PVE IN MY PVP
nimble jasper
@spice hornet is it weird i find the rogue mirrors funny
cuz none of them know how to really play
nimble jasper
im like doubling his dam sometimes
and rotting both at once
and this mf is just tunneling one person all game
spice hornet
some assassinations havent figured that out yet
bold escarp
hey guys, kinda new warrior here doing pvp, been doing solo shuffle but not gonna lie, dont know who to normally focus and teammates just ignore chat when ask, is there any priority focus for warriors?
spice hornet
the good ones put you and your healer at 25% with no mana
spice hornet
priest warrior 2s is cursed as shit don't recommend
nimble jasper
it is
undone pumice
way too many fotm fury esp in solo shuffle, not know real struggle of fury when i hit 2100 with my friend who just so happened to be a really good rdruid in s2 of World of Warcraft Shadowlands, they dont know my 200ping grindset, oh gg well better get on my lock with this many fotm fury
elfin surge
priest warrior 2s is cursed as shit don't recommend
@boreal latchgerz
spice hornet
i could not get higher than 2100 in 2s as it. every healer we faced was rdruid
elfin surge
i could not get higher than 2100 in 2s as it. every healer we faced was rdruid
find a pres evoker
is what i play
pres arms
elfin surge
i have no idea what emerald communion does
it heals
spice hornet
elfin surge
u can fear it to interrupt it
hot solstice
I wish all the shufflers who die to first burts to delete the game and never come back
nimble jasper
well its shuffle
what do you expect
decent players dont queue fully randomized teams
its basically lfr for pvp
hot solstice
Got 1800 in 8 shuffles with enha cause it can do 200k blasts....cant do it on my arms warrior though
balmy ingot
Fury which stats go?
wispy sail
yo guys, can you give me some tips on how to play against restos?
sitting at 1.5k cr cant get up cuz i mostly cant beat them
elfin surge
yo guys, can you give me some tips on how to play against restos?
in what?
elfin surge
⚠️ WARNING ⚠️
DO NOT QUEUE 2S AS WARRIOR
refer to this @wispy sail
spice hornet
yo guys, can you give me some tips on how to play against restos?
You don’t
sharp meteor
resto druids*
so in general rdruid is
position in such a way that you can swap off hots
but like right now numbers are funky
and your ass will get torn to bits by certain stuff
elfin surge
rdruid has always been the warrior counter
sharp meteor
Why does Dino move around at mount speed out of for@
feline swiftness thing?
shift cancel constantly
dno positioning so good in 2s
elfin surge
position in such a way that you can swap off hots
but what if the druid positions in such a way to prevent you swapping off hots
sharp meteor
but what if the druid positions in such a way to prevent you swapping off hots
then u lose
nimble jasper
s2g i see so many bad rdruids
sharp meteor
nimble jasper
try to attack in cat form at worst times
sharp meteor
if rdruid spaces and hots properly then dps keeps you from accessing druid then
nimble jasper
get head caved in cuz bad positioning
sharp meteor
it all falls apart
nimble jasper
“huh why no peel”
sharp meteor
warr/healer 2s just seems so unfun
nimble jasper
i still have ptsd from
spice hornet
It is
nimble jasper
dk rdruid 2s in bfa
sharp meteor
in rogue feral hunter bracket
spice hornet
This bm was cranking my arms yesterday missing traps or scatter trapping and I was melting
So hard to catch him now with the trap roots bm has now
nimble jasper
rogue mage was real funny as assa
cuz how high bleeds are rn
that rogue decides its time to leave when hes 30% hp full dots
💀
and dies
spice hornet
I still see people cry online about fury ajd I don’t understand why
When there is feral and assass
spice hornet
It’s a noob stomper for sure
nimble jasper
and its easy to play
undone pumice
healers always cry cause they feel they of a higher species
nimble jasper
like feral and assass
more troublesome
cuz they can stop even good healers
from playing the game
random 1500 lfg healer who sits there with slaughterhouse stacks
complains when he walls 20%
brazen rock
fury was absurdly oppressive with 40% ms
and its retard easy to play to a mid-high bracket
coral axle
Yeah I've never really played warrior before and I have found fury to be very easy, like it's impossible to mess up the damage
And doing damage also does the healing
nimble jasper
and its retard easy to play to a mid-high bracket
mostly this
assa way more oppressive pressure imo
in capable hands
spice hornet
fury was absurdly oppressive with 40% ms
right, but that's no longer the case, yet you still people bitching about the dmg or something
nimble jasper
I’ve unironically double killed teams
at the 3min mark
if healer isnt smart enough to spread out far
dim latch
Any good guides to world pvp? I had to turn war mode off because I kept getting my ass kicked
dim latch
Warriors that bad a world pvp huh?
brazen rock
right, but that's no longer the case, yet you still people bitching about the dm...
eh because in the dummy bracket theres still lots of them
and tbh theyre pretty aids for new players to play against
spice hornet
warrior isnt a good solo world pvp class it almost nver has been
brazen rock
gotta remember even 1800+ is outside the reach of reddit
cinder lake
@spice hornet ?fury is one of th strongest in solo world pvp
undone pumice
@dim latch not the bajheera wukong
spice hornet
LOL
glass robin
It's probably not much but first time winning the most rounds 🥲
little lava
gl guys with playin against dh/prot pally/rdruid
glass robin
Now Challenged
little lava
i hope they die, in game ofc
chrome wolf
Fury or Arms?!
drowsy depot
<@224718618967932928> not the bajheera wukong
Baj has pocket healers and only fights mega undergeared players in bgs and clips it for views so his fan boi population can suck him off more. :p
wheat jay
Oi fuck off from the god
drowsy depot
There is a reason he doesn't have health numbers turned on and only percentage
wheat jay
He is THE warrior
drowsy depot
Dekel is way better imo
wheat jay
Well yes
But Bajheera is the legend himself
Chadekel is a chad, but not a legend
And then there's Mud
spice hornet
Mud succ
sharp meteor
Baj has pocket healers and only fights mega undergeared players in bgs and clips...
cloned him in a bg, cloned his trinket and he afk'd out and his fanboys left too
spice hornet
fucking KEK
spice hornet
when I want to watch real warrior gameplay I either turn on Bajheera or Dekel. Actual good non-fotm warrior mains
late nacelle
vers has diminishing returns past 30%?
drowsy depot
30 is soft cap iirc
sharp meteor
didn't notice name until 5 enemy players left the match
fickle forge
drowsy depot
That's crazy, was he trying to get some YouTube vid or something?
sharp meteor
idk it was in sl
sharp meteor
say it ain't so
drowsy depot
See? Mud ain't all that, he is a quitter
hazy kernel
Is the raging blow build better for PVP over annihilator? New to wow
fickle forge
Mud has more mood swings on arms vs fury than my ex did
drowsy depot
HAH
sharp meteor
Is the raging blow build better for PVP over annihilator? New to wow
further testing required
hazy kernel
Ok thank you. I used annihilator for a little and recently switched up my tree a little to see what is best for my playstyle. I haven't tried the raging blow build yet. That will be next for me.
drowsy depot
Play arms :p
Real manly spec
Don't need two 2handers to overcompensate for your iq to play 2button fury
hazy kernel
😂
ancient dirge
You’re just jealous because if blizzard were real men they’d let fury have 3 2handers
eager mortar
kekw he's not wrong but also two 2h still looks amazing
is still good or is there a better talent to use?
drowsy depot
You kinda have to pick it in 2s, depends on comp I think
I'm a shitlord warrior though
coral axle
Is the raging blow build better for PVP over annihilator? New to wow
I'm fairly new to war but annihilator should be easier to play if nothing else, due to how you naturally spam bloodthirst giving you a ton of healing without thinking about it
eager mortar
I'm new to warrior too, I was playing DK but I can't deal with being the slowest in the game
coral axle
Warrior has been a lot more fun than I expected, idk if I can go back to other classes after playing arms today
hazy kernel
Never played arms yet any good builds for that?
elfin surge
Play DH I converted and its very fun
drowsy depot
Ahahahh
hazy kernel
Stats for it
coral axle
Yeah I wanted to play fury at first because it's braindead and I was maining evoker, but arms is too sick
drowsy depot
We love you Mud
elfin surge
Hello,
I just rerolled Assa Rogue and it turns out, I'm actually really good at it. It just comes natural to me, my rating is climbing every game!
I've been struggling as warrior the last few years being stuck around 1300, but after playing rogue for 4 days, I just hit my first duelist! I'm even beating rank 1s and streamers!
I'm just happy I finally found the class that fits me and i'm naturally gifted at!
drowsy depot
Ahahahhahaha
lean burrow
Hello,
I just rerolled Assa Rogue and it turns out, I'm actually really good at it. It just comes natural to me, my rating is climbing every game!
I've been struggling as warrior the last few years being stuck around 1300, but after playing rogue for 4 days, I just hit my first duelist! I'm even beating rank 1s and streamers!
I'm just happy I finally found the class that fits me and i'm naturally gifted at!
coral axle
Literally me playing fury
eager mortar
lmao
coral axle
Never played arms yet any good builds for that?
https://murlok.io/ you can find builds for any spec you want on here
eager mortar
how reliable and updated this website? I saw it few times here now
fickle forge
Hello,
I just rerolled Assa Rogue and it turns out, I'm actually really good at it. It just comes natural to me, my rating is climbing every game!
I've been struggling as warrior the last few years being stuck around 1300, but after playing rogue for 4 days, I just hit my first duelist! I'm even beating rank 1s and streamers!
I'm just happy I finally found the class that fits me and i'm naturally gifted at!
coral axle
Updated daily I believe
undone pumice
Baj has pocket healers and only fights mega undergeared players in bgs and clips...
ok?
elfin surge
Baj has pocket healers and only fights mega undergeared players in bgs and clips...
Baj has pocket healers and only fights mega undergeared players in bgs and clips it for views so his fan boi population can suck him off more. :p
undone pumice
i just said bajheera is bald and it is true
hazy kernel
https://murlok.io/ you can find builds for any spec you want on here
Thank you I will check it out
lean burrow
Hello,
I just rerolled Assa Rogue and it turns out, I'm actually really good at...
may I get the link to that copypasta so I may laugh reading replies in the first occurence of that passage
hazy isle
Best warr is the asmongold
spice hornet
@elfin surge wha arms build do u run in 3s
undone pumice
asmongold represents all the rogues of the world he just misclicked warr in 2006
elfin surge
Hello,
I just rerolled Assa Rogue and it turns out, I'm actually really good at...
@lean burrow
drowsy depot
Hello,
I recently dropped my warrior after hitting 1800 by pressing 2 buttons and pve the healer the whole game. I've started playing sin rogue and Dh in 2s, yesterday I was playing with a healer that was hardstuck 1500 but I mashed bladedance and the hunt on my DH and I got duelist in about 4 hours. I also find it fun when I got glad in 4 days on my sin rogue by pressing deathmark, the game is very hard.
lean burrow
<@299170706749652992>
I mean where did you find it
late nacelle
i am so angry
green wyvern
dont play that garbage game mode
late nacelle
i just want
like 3 wins
for 2.4k
but these apes
keep leaving
and cancelling everything
elfin surge
I mean where did you find it
i wrote it lmao
lean burrow
lean burrow
drowsy depot
Mud has peak warrior humour
lean burrow
maybe someone will post that on blizzard forums
and I will be able to laugh at random angry comments 
naive sable
gents, my warrior iq cannot process what enchant to stick on my conq wep for fury - I need assistance
coral axle
👀
drowsy depot
And all of them are orc
late nacelle
zugzug
green wyvern
mf has the entire warsong clan
elfin surge
full quiver
i really like "mud"
it seems like something a dumb orc warrior would call themselves lol
"me mud"
lean burrow
full quiver
"mud mean when water meet dirt"
drowsy depot
Enraged Regeneration:
-No longer usable while stunned
-Increased damage reduction to 50% (was 30%)
eager mortar
lean burrow
Enraged Regeneration:
-No longer usable while stunned
-Increased damage reducti...
perfect, everyone will finally play arms
eager mortar
perfect, everyone will finally play arms
what I do with this then
sage raptor
Cry
drowsy depot
Shouldn't have picked a room temp iq spec perhaps?
elfin surge
Warrior
Arms
Defensive Stance now reduces damage taken by 30% in PvP combat (was 10%).
drowsy depot
Play something really hard like assassination rogue
quaint snow
Enraged Regeneration:
-No longer usable while stunned
-Increased damage reducti...
you are joking right
wheat crane
what I do with this then
Just use it, dont NEED sword youll be fine
eager mortar
you think if I make ticket to reroll severs they would do it?
brazen rock
its pretty funny when you get trolled in your placements, go 3-3, and have to grind your way out of shit mmr
sharp meteor
ussually ranges from few hours to few days depending
brazen rock
30 min ques for 20cr at 1500mmr
sharp meteor
its pretty funny when you get trolled in your placements, go 3-3, and have to gr...
ya male worgen with glasses just getting bodied every round
rip that alts initial mmr
neon flame
hey guys, for fury arena build should I stack critical strike over mastery? I know they are "equal"y bad stats, but are they?