pvp

[weak swallow]

according to icyv

[lean mason]

That’s preety nice

Now if only they make it soo smf isint a skill point

[weak swallow]

22% un-enraged

[thick reef]

they just needto let warriors transmog 2 handers into 1 handers

[lean mason]

^

[weak swallow]

although i have haste neck and ring, and 66 bonus from gems

as well as some other armour pieces

[grand scaffold]

another question is arms for fury doing more damage

[weak swallow]

ahhh nvm, this is unfair. gonna get the conq trinket sec

18% un-enraged with conq trinket

37% enraged

then the rest is up to frenzy stacks

[thick reef]

fury has more sustain and very strong burst
Arms has bad sustain and stronger burst

[weak swallow]

which is another 8%

so 45% max

[grand scaffold]

also

is it just me or does arms like not have d stance and sweeping strikes baseline

[uneven turret]

man...can't decide between buying the crit or mastery weapon

[grand scaffold]

i thought that was what was meant to happen this patch

[weak swallow]

on

[lucid walrus]

with 10.0.5 it will

[grand scaffold]

wait

so what patch is it

[weak swallow]

10.0.0 no?

[lucid walrus]

not 10.0.5

[grand scaffold]

i thought this was 10.0.5

[lucid walrus]

that comes in january

[grand scaffold]

oh fuck

[drowsy wasp]

How come I feel fury hit like wet noodle outside the burst

[weak swallow]

whats the build

[drowsy wasp]

Just the spear build from mud

[weak swallow]

also yeah outside of burst it's pretty noodly

oh

spear is ight

too many classes can just run out of it tho lol so i gave up on that

i like the roar rework this expac

SL didn't quite hit right with that shitty x3 crit bs

[thick reef]

Arms is even more wet noodle outside of burst, furies is much stronger.
Problem is most classes are noodle outside of burst atm

[weak swallow]

average 40k with fury after burst afaik

[drowsy wasp]

Hmm ele is like

Always bursting

[weak swallow]

broken

rn

[drowsy wasp]

Can we be like ele

[weak swallow]

but easy to counter LUL

i just kick stormkeeper or deflect fire

and they suc

[thick reef]

enhance shaman is the chad spec

[weak swallow]

yes

[thick reef]

Summon your spirit bitches

[weak swallow]

after the expac gets uh

cheaper

ill be playing that

gear is just too annoying to min max atm

[thick reef]

If I didnt have all my shit on my warrior over the last decade I woulda switched awhile ago XD but Warrior is, so satisfying and familair

[drowsy wasp]

I feel less ppl playing 3s now that we have solo shuffle

[thick reef]

No doubt

[weak swallow]

xD

many

i think people gave up more on 2's

[lucid walrus]

definitely

[weak swallow]

cuz they dont want the hassle of finding a reliable partner

[thick reef]

2's is meta only

[lucid walrus]

shoehorning my argument abt glad being 3s exclusive here

[weak swallow]

is 3's difficult

[drowsy wasp]

There is no reason for a casual to play 3s

When you are getting same 1800 rewards for solo shuffle

[thick reef]

3's has always been the kinda, step up in difficulty and coordination pvp

[weak swallow]

ah

never really touched it much

always a 2's person

but now im always on shuffle

[thick reef]

I used to 2's a lot, when I switched to 3's it was night and day difficulty

[weak swallow]

i only really started pvp in s2/3 SL

[thick reef]

Got my saddle and stopped since I cant voice chat so I wasnt doing as well as I should

[lucid walrus]

most people take the 3s pill and never go back

[weak swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/bitcoin-morpheus-usd-choice-third-gif-19922824

[thick reef]

They should, increase the conquest and MMR gain in 2's if they want people doing it

[weak swallow]

bruh solo feels dead in conq gains

win 4/6

[thick reef]

Since its also just plain slower and less rewarding than shuffle

[weak swallow]

gain 16

[restive junco]

have they said what kind of incentives theyre thinking a;bout for healers for solo que

[weak swallow]

win 3, gain nothing

which actually now that i think about it is

fair

cuz 50/50 should equate to no gains

[thick reef]

Is the conqeust gain also based on MMR gain?

50/50 gives you mount gains

[lucid walrus]

50/50 is just mmr dependent since that's literally where mmr wants you to be

[weak swallow]

yeah just play sp

i won 4/6 cuz i had an aids rogue in my game

running down both sides

+17

[restive junco]

i just had a solo que with no healer in it? qued as a prot pally tank

?

[weak swallow]

makes sense

other team prob had a tank

[lucid walrus]

prot paladins can only queue into other prot paladins

[weak swallow]

isnt prot like

very niche

cuz you just kill their angel and gg?

[restive junco]

idk it was a weird game both palys really sucked lol

[weak swallow]

ret i bet?

or u mean both prot

[calm geode]

with the recent changes is fury still the go to for pvp, or has arms made a come back?

[weak swallow]

everytime i see any paladin thats not hp i want to shoot myself

wheelchair class

even hp after defensives is like, ok, die

[grand scaffold]

people seem to be saying fury is still better but i like how arms does dmg more

[weak swallow]

i dont think arms has been buffed yet

[grand scaffold]

less auto attack stuff

[weak swallow]

and even then theyre both pretty good still depending on comp/coordination

[calm geode]

I mainly rbg

wondering if maybe fury might outperform based on survivability

[weak swallow]

oh

hm

yeah i mean fury is disgusting in bg

have a pocket healer jump into 4 people and dragon roar odyns and 300k average

bit of an exaggeration but you catch my drift

[calm geode]

lol yeah

[weak swallow]

healer dead

np

just enraged

[calm geode]

mud's post on the spec, still the go to?

in the pin?

[weak swallow]

idk

change up a few things that you dont find necessary

i made like 6 pages of similar builds for certain matchup types

• testing new build

[calm geode]

damn

[weak swallow]

not really as crazy as it sounds

[grand scaffold]

wait

[weak swallow]

like 1 or 2 abilities change

[grand scaffold]

so if arms wasnt just buffed

why was the maintenance so long

what was so important

[weak swallow]

its uh

multidollar internet

[grand scaffold]

oh

so people are still running the same builds as before?

[calm geode]

I haven't played fury for like 4 expansion, been die hard arms, even when it sucked

finally went fury and they announced the nerfs the next day..lol

[grand scaffold]

idk about fury

ive been diehard fury since wod

butg

[calm geode]

still trying to figure out the spec, somehow I ended up all on the right side of the tree, with ravager. think i may have used the wrong import

[grand scaffold]

bloodthirst spamming is so boring

[weak swallow]

ong

[brazen rock]

arms

bonk kids

[weak swallow]

bruh this aids

[grand scaffold]

btw

[weak swallow]

this loser monk moron just ints and then leaves

[grand scaffold]

are you still running the same build you sent me before?

[brazen rock]

uhh

i swapped rend for unhinged

cuz rend legit aint worth the gcd

[grand scaffold]

so its not worth playing bleeds?

[weak swallow]

im fucking around with this rn

cleave

[brazen rock]

nah

sks bleeds is shit rn

[grand scaffold]

dang

[brazen rock]

not enough talent points

[calm geode]

thats basically the spec im using

[brazen rock]

wait for 10.0.5

[grand scaffold]

so whats the best build then?

[calm geode]

down with ravager and hurricane

[brazen rock]

BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSSkQIpUSSAAAAAJEJJakAERjSiEgmEBBIJRCAAAAAAAAJUSSIAA

i like this

i dropped 1pt in wild strikes for the second spear capstone

so it fucken chunks against cloth/leather

[weak swallow]

gotta say

i hate odyns fury on the build

feels useless

then again im not playing around bleeds

i dont like raging blows anymore

i got too used to anni

raging feels ticklish

[lean mason]

I thought you get raging for free? From the videos I’m seeing

[kind panther]

what do you spend your extra rage on as arms?

slam feels horrible

[thick reef]

with no ignore pain thats all yah got

such wonderful design

[whole condor]

fury feels weaker since yesterday

[thick reef]

it is not

[whole condor]

l2p then

I see

[thick reef]

theres a talent that makes it passive

[whole condor]

I'm getting significantly outdamaged by ww monk and surv hunter in SS

[weak swallow]

are you letting him punc you

[thick reef]

then git gud

[weak swallow]

are you letting his ghosts clap you

can slow ghosts

can stun flurry

survival hunter is also pretty meh

[short glacier]

is this bugged? didnt get the title ? 😦

[weak swallow]

can just force cd's and kill after

deflect freeze trap back to hunter as well

[grand scaffold]

whats the idea of this build btw

[weak swallow]

wait a sec

wasnt arms able to dual wield this expac

[lean mason]

It should

Dual wielding is mostly a warrior thing

[weak swallow]

i wanna play it if i can do trhat

[lean mason]

But I don’t think it’s in its skill tree thing

[grand scaffold]

and what stats are you running

[brazen rock]

crit/haste

[brazen rock]

press buttons, do damage? what do you mean

[grand scaffold]

like what sort of dmg does it do

burst/consistant

i think i worded the question wrong

[brazen rock]

good dam every 30sec during csmash window

big dam during avatar.

[grand scaffold]

ok

so vers>crit>caste>mastery?

[brazen rock]

haste/mast interchangeable really

both are good.

some guys are going pure crit/mast for the big chunky hits.

[grand scaffold]

that sounds interesting

is that the same build?

[brazen rock]

ye

[rose phoenix]

I completed it today as well and nothing. Did you get it doing the pvp dragon elite?

[grand scaffold]

is wild strikes not great?

[short glacier]

Yes cobalt arena

Where I got it

[weak swallow]

why in hell did they give Massacre the condemn animation

its so slow

and annoying to watch

lul

[spice hornet]

lol no idea

[weak swallow]

feels like atk speed gets reduced

[spice hornet]

prob didnt want the asset wasted

[grand scaffold]

because it looks cool af

imo

[weak swallow]

it looks cool

but id like the attack animation to be a bit faster

like execute

[grand scaffold]

maybe

i myself like how it looks quite a lot

[weak swallow]

its like im telling my enemy my attack before i actually hit them

[lean mason]

I mean. Fury warrior is preety predictable

No cap

So we basiclly are in a way

[weak swallow]

im talking about massacre for condemn

its on arms as well

[lean mason]

Ohhh don’t know much about arms

All I know is that it’s like fury warrior but one sord

[weak swallow]

ight im gonna see if arms can dw

[rose phoenix]

Yea I got mine where the dragon rare is. I saw on wowhead a lot of people saying it’s bugged.

[lean mason]

I wanna try the dagger build for fury warrior

But maaan I have no idea how does the damn blacksmith thing work

Monkas

[weak swallow]

tf

dagger build

[weak swallow]

wep

[lean mason]

Ye saw it on the fourms

[urban skiff]

do I spend points on a second weapon or trophy?

[weak swallow]

wep

wep > everything for war

or any melee afaik

[brazen rock]

its fine, but were gcd capped more than rage capped.

[delicate bronze]

@brazen rock

[brazen rock]

dh player dies in shuffle to some multi glad r1 arms war and cries

[grand scaffold]

interesting

[urban skiff]

ok but here's where it gets painful:

[grand scaffold]

with that build you said where you run crit/mastery

[urban skiff]

am more mythic raider than pvp'er

[grand scaffold]

is it crit>mastery or mastery>crit

[gentle wyvern]

[brazen rock]

so go do more m+ and farm a wep there lol

that is THREE WEEKS of conquest currency

[brazen rock]

crit > mastery

[grand scaffold]

ok

[brazen rock]

in an ideal world you want (iirc) 12% sheet haste to get an extra global during csmash

[grand scaffold]

whats iirc

[brazen rock]

also makes the spec not feel slow and clunky

if i recall correctly.

[delicate bronze]

yep, dh player

[brazen rock]

delete dh.

[grand scaffold]

also even with skullsplitter is the bleed build still potato?

[brazen rock]

its pretty potato.

[grand scaffold]

dang

is it always gonna be potato?

[brazen rock]

10.0.5 will free up enough talents to run it along with ms battlelord spam

[lean mason]

DHs are like fury warriors but faster

[brazen rock]

so it may be worth using just to pump more dam

[urban skiff]

you're absolutely right, but I'm a mythic raider I loathe m+. Still gonna take pvp weap and pretend it was the best in my box if my team asks

[grand scaffold]

in how long is 10.0.5?

[brazen rock]

probably mid jan

as ptr is referencing lots of world event stuff happening early feb

[grand scaffold]

tbh i cant be asked to regear

what are the stats for the bleed build

[spice hornet]

spriest stillhurts so bad

[brazen rock]

tbh idk after it got nerfed everyone moved to what i posted.

[grand scaffold]

wiat

in what way did it get nerfed

[delicate bronze]

one of the first patch

nerfed sks rend build

[brazen rock]

? people were 1 shotting with sks

[grand scaffold]

oh

[weak swallow]

ima try this for arms

[calm geode]

I wonder if skullsplitter is still as hard hitting as it was. it got nerfed because of 1 shots right after launch

well rend did

[weak swallow]

18k dmg from skull + 21k from rend +10k from deep + currently 19% mastery dmg increase + 30% more total from warbringer + 20% from avatar + thunderous roar increases bleed dmg so 15% on top of skullsplitter's bleed burnout = idk alot

[grand scaffold]

this build feels massive

im at level 66 slapping 58k executes

[uneven turret]

is it weird to pick the sword over the polearm for mog? it looks so badass compared to polearm

[grand scaffold]

probably pick best stats tbh

tmog can come later

[weak swallow]

sword is still pretty nice for bleed dmg consistency

if you're fully reliant on hitting crits from the talent for bloodthirst and reckless, you're not gonna maximize the bleed dmg

personally im taking mastery crit weps

feels very nice

[uneven turret]

mastery crit?

[weak swallow]

mastery polearm

crit sword

[uneven turret]

o wait

polearm has more vers

[weak swallow]

yea

but that diminishes quickly

[pearl prism]

Arms any good after the buffs today?

[weak swallow]

i dont think it got buffed today

[pearl prism]

Ah, it’s coming with the talent tree rework?

[whole condor]

Details!: Damage Done for [Arena] Nagrand Arena (last fight) [2:17 EF]

1. DH...... 3.07M (22.4k, 27.8%)
2. Ret Pal.......... 3.06M (22.3k, 27.6%)
3. Enh Sham .. 2.34M (17.1k, 21.1%)
4. Fury Warr........ 2.04M (14.9k, 18.4%)
5. Glaurungz ...... 288.6K (2.1k, 2.6%)

[weak swallow]

wtf

140k

didnt even sharpen

[whole condor]

is this normal?

[fair tide]

I was liking arms, but it felt really squishy

[weak swallow]

LUIL

153k hit on mortal

[fair tide]

I was slapping some crazy 140k crits thou

yeah, the dmg is there, but if you get focused its gg

[weak swallow]

OH SH

SOLO SHUFFLE CHANGES RATING BASED ON SPEC?

NOICE

[distant raptor]

Anyone play Mistweaver or Resto for PvP? How are each? One better than other?

I am gonna make a healer alt

[weak swallow]

mist if you hate your life, resto if you hate your life

[grand scaffold]

btw

do i need 12% haste outside of arena

or in arena

[weak swallow]

go resto cuz shaman

[weak swallow]

ohhh

[distant raptor]

what why

[weak swallow]

it did

[urban skiff]

YUGE buffs

[distant raptor]

resto shaman are trash bro

[grand scaffold]

thats fun

its also like more mortal strike dmg in pvp

[urban skiff]

these are pvp-specific

[weak swallow]

in that case

fuck bladestorm

never touching this trashcan m+ ability again

ion wanna hear it can remove roots ik

[urban skiff]

bladestorm is the fucking worst. I don't understand blizzard's obsession with "warrior people spin around really like beyblades"-skills

every fucking game has this immersionbreaking bullshit.

[weak swallow]

spin3wing

im also

getting rid of sweeping strikes

cleave is just not the feel this expac for warrior

[urban skiff]

kind of upset now that I didn't play prot while it was hot

[distant raptor]

MIstweaver are nuts

[weak swallow]

also getting rid of skullshitter

does like 10k extra damage

the dmg is seperated from it

[brazen rock]

Please just use the build I posted

[kindred flame]

did i choose right?

[brazen rock]

Yeah not a bad pick.

[weak swallow]

ight making this my new build

[kindred flame]

because its got natural res too, idk if its as good as the conquest chest though

i would imagine if i get two or four set, but do i lose too much resilience for it to be viable?

[weak swallow]

oops

i removed double overpower

LUL

[brazen rock]

Your taking bleed talents without sks?

[kindred flame]

META

[short glacier]

What is ur build? I searched ur name but could never find it

[weak swallow]

there we go

[weak swallow]

sks?>

oh

nah

fuck sks

[brazen rock]

Scroll up I posted it a while ago. The import string.

[weak swallow]

skullshitter

[short glacier]

Gotcha

[brazen rock]

Fatality without Ms reset talent

[kindred flame]

is anyone swapping to armw

arms

actually

[brazen rock]

Dude just stop trying to invent the wheel

[kindred flame]

maybe when the talents update but rn i think fury is king

[spice hornet]

how has demo avoided nerfs this far

toooo many pet

[weak swallow]

im gonna take off warbringer

its just not the same when you're not enraged

[urban skiff]

anyone got a list of the expensive enchants we want to use?

[whole condor]

Frozen Devotion

Plainrunner's Breeze

[urban skiff]

on both? or are people swapping to arms?

[flat dome]

I never wanna listen to casters bitch about melee mobility

[whole condor]

Don't know

is slaughterhouse weak sauce now?

[weak swallow]

nah its still viable into heal comps

but its far weaker

[distant raptor]

where do you get this info

[weak swallow]

icyv

[distant raptor]

o shit

[fair tide]

whats the stat prior for your arms build?

mastery/verse?

[lean burrow]

mastery vers

true chad build

[spice hornet]

every game has a demo or an spriest still

[weak swallow]

ngl i have a lot of mast haste

vers just comes along with pvp gear

[cinder lake]

For fury the weapon from conq shud be the polearm that gives mastery/versa right?

[warm pollen]

is this good?

[warm pollen]

rt

[cinder lake]

this means,right? xD

[warm pollen]

?

[cinder lake]

the rt thing

[warm pollen]

haha retweet

[cinder lake]

xD

[warm pollen]

how do i convert a conquest piece to tier bonus piece?

[weak swallow]

well idk its just a bg but so far doing more than the furies

gonna see how it is in solo

[quick carbon]

arms actually bangs so hard rn

[fair tide]

/bp

[weak swallow]

🤷‍♂️

[fair tide]

oops

[grizzled zinc]

Any ideas what to take? Tier piece right?

[weak swallow]

tier

[warm pollen]

how do i convert a conquest piece to tier bonus piece?

or they only come in chest?

in great vault* i mean?

[weak swallow]

i been asking the same thing for a few hours

no videos

no guides

so generally lost

[severe skiff]

You convert conquest gear to tier through a forge they have yet to implement into the game

it will be added jan 24th reset for NA, 25th for EU

[warm pollen]

damn

so people that gets tier set from great vault is op af?

[weak swallow]

tf

[severe skiff]

you will only be able to convert one piece/week from that point (but the charges carry over and are account wide meaning if you come in on a fresh alt 5 weeks into that, you can make 5 tier pieces day1)

yes

exactly the same as SL

[warm pollen]

oh

nice

[warm pollen]

so this is great

[weak swallow]

hm

this build has fury bloat

[fair tide]

you using slam @weak swallow ?

like whats your filler between op and ms?

[weak swallow]

mostly spamming op

cuz it resets often

then execute

if nothing left then yeah slam

[weak swallow]

with ms

actually i change my mind

no sweeping

never sweeping anything in my life

• world of warcraft player

[near delta]

Cause that went well lol

[weak swallow]

LMAO hold on

why do i have bloodborne with no dragons roar

[warm pollen]

is everyone going arms rn?

is arms way better to fury rn ?

[weak swallow]

okay thats better

[lucid walrus]

yeah it actually feels excellent rn

just hit a solo and was often kill target but like, rarely felt ultra close to death

[weak swallow]

actually i lied

rend is ass here

[lucid walrus]

haven't been liking fatality ngl

no exhil blows on arms tree is ballsy

[late nacelle]

yo

wtf are these walking mountain set pieces

we using em?

[lucid walrus]

ya

[weak swallow]

is it reduced in pvp

if so then im taking it off

[lucid walrus]

it's nerfed yeah

[weak swallow]

ok

[severe skiff]

its nerfed by 70% in pvp

[lucid walrus]

as are like all our bleeds

[weak swallow]

muuuch better

[lucid walrus]

if you want a little input on some shit i'd be happy to offer it

[severe skiff]

no

[weak swallow]

having a double mortal slap feelsnice

[severe skiff]

drop ashen juggernaught

[late nacelle]

juggernaut is useless

[severe skiff]

drop the bleed = rage talent

take bladestorm

[weak swallow]

nah

fuck bs

[lucid walrus]

jugg sucks, no BS is sketch, would advise piercing howl over inspiring

[late nacelle]

nobody got a clue about the set pieces?

[weak swallow]

oh yeaaa

now i remember why i took rend

[lucid walrus]

they're good

[weak swallow]

for rage generation

[undone pumice]

bs is rlly fkin good

[late nacelle]

doesnt have vers tho

[lucid walrus]

depends on the piece

[weak swallow]

thar

[lucid walrus]

i rolled chest and it's big crit/little vers but still, 10% crit chance/dam on mortal and exe is insane

[late nacelle]

does it even work

[lucid walrus]

let alone 4p

[late nacelle]

for pvp

[lucid walrus]

ya ofc

[late nacelle]

the set bonus

[lucid walrus]

it worked in SL also

[severe skiff]

horrible build

[late nacelle]

"walking mountain"

[weak swallow]

good

ill be a horrible person

[severe skiff]

planning on executing people 15x in a row?

[weak swallow]

yeah

[severe skiff]

good to dream

[weak swallow]

thats why im not taking fatality

having that rampup will be nice

[lucid walrus]

repost

[weak swallow]

12second duration

unless the duration doesnt reset?

[lucid walrus]

it does

[weak swallow]

good

[undone pumice]

skullsplitter jumpscare

[weak swallow]

then ramping up

[lucid walrus]

you're just reliant on SD procs

[lucid walrus]

it's been pretty okay in my exp

[limber wagon]

can you get tier piece without raiding ?

[vale ibex]

Would you wana focus mastery over crit with the bleed build above?

[undone pumice]

it is acc rlly rkin good esp with full mastery gear but id rather kms than play skullsplitter bleed build

[late nacelle]

im confused

is this set piece for pvp or not

has no vers

[undone pumice]

yes

[vale ibex]

It works in pvp, and has pvp stays

Stats

[weak swallow]

previous sets mostly didnt either

[undone pumice]

it was like this in sl too

[late nacelle]

also got offered

belt with socket

what to pick O.o

[weak swallow]

tier set

otherwise you're waiting until Jan 24/25

[undone pumice]

wep > tier > free sockets imo

[teal hollow]

so is the pvp guide faq inaccurate? it says fury is the weakest but then goes on to list covenants. im new to warrior and was hoping to be good with fury...

[lucid walrus]

tier is stellar

[weak swallow]

def tier here

[lucid walrus]

FAQ is outdated

[undone pumice]

yes

[weak swallow]

can wait 2 weeks for a weapon

nobody gonna wait 3 years for a piece

[undone pumice]

fury gets their weps this week and in 4 weeks

[lucid walrus]

check the pins for current fury builds courtesy of mud

[teal hollow]

so which spec is performing best then? will i be ok running fury?

[lucid walrus]

yeah fury's totally fine

[undone pumice]

fury good

[teal hollow]

ok cool thanks. will check the pins now

[fair tide]

why you not taking bladestorm @weak swallow ?

[undone pumice]

cuzhes bad

🐎

[onyx vale]

if you aren't running bladestorm, ask yourself this question

why aren't you playing fury

perhaps you love pressing overpower and mortal strike

[weak swallow]

just realized training dummy always low hp LUL

taking haste breaker

instead of storm

[undone pumice]

what

why are u playing the shiddy prepatch exe spam build

[weak swallow]

cuz i dont like storm

[limber wagon]

trinket vs socket neck vs helm ?

socket neck ?

[onyx vale]

if you want arms' kit without storm there's a spec waiting for you

[weak swallow]

legs?

[warm pollen]

is everyone going arms rn?
is arms way better to fury rn ?

[undone pumice]

no

[weak swallow]

also, fatality damage is only reduced by 50%

not 70%

11k per stack currently

will stack up lots in arena

gonna give it another shot

instead of haste warb

[undone pumice]

arms does big dam but dies to any shart ever, fury does enough dmg and has infinite healing but you sacrifice 1/9th of your soul everytime you queue which is why mud is just a bucket of dirt irl

[weak swallow]

i mean

have a healer

feels like every class has a point where it just dies

even fury is shitter when you take away all his healing

enraged who?

[onyx vale]

wait you are skipping in for the kill now?

https://tenor.com/view/rare-reeeeee-dank-meme-triggered-gif-24062717

[weak swallow]

yea

i am

its ass

did nothing

[onyx vale]

[weak swallow]

fatality is better

because im arms

[lucid walrus]

jesus

[weak swallow]

11k dmg per stack every mortal isnt too bad

1 thing im gonna do tho

is remove rends ugly ass

[onyx vale]

exactly remove the useless shit like JUGGERNAUT and take your signature spell

[weak swallow]

i did

but im not taking bullshitstorm

if i ever do m+

ill take it

[onyx vale]

there are two spells that are iconic to arms, mortal strike and bladestorm, that's why they are even on the preview of the spec

that's like playing fury without heroic strike

or demonology without metamorphosis

[flat dome]

Man why you gotta bring it up

[onyx vale]

i'll never forgive you, ion

[wheat jay]

bladestorm, best skill in arms arsenal, guess i'll skip

[late nacelle]

so

[wheat jay]

[late nacelle]

we can only get the set pieces

from weekly

[lucid walrus]

for now

[late nacelle]

and we have to get lucky

and get 4 different ones

[fickle forge]

This convo is rich

[late nacelle]

and one that isn't head

[fickle forge]

[warm pollen]

what u mean w that

[fickle forge]

RMP has upvoted your comment

[late nacelle]

xd

which enchant u guys running

frozen or sophic

[wispy raven]

Not sure if its been nerfed or not but this is fury on the pvp dummy over 5m dmg. Double frozen devotion

[near delta]

Sounds like a plant

"I never use spell reflect on poly. Just not worth"

[nimble dirge]

They didnt nerf the damage tho?

[flat dome]

LOL

[fair tide]

Went arms and started slapping in bgs lol

[wispy raven]

Not sure. I hadnt run it until today. Im using the top tier enchant

[fair tide]

had rogues running in fear

[lean burrow]

well of course, you've got fear

[fair tide]

I was seeing some nutty numbers

[stuck root]

ok post patch fury or arms in 2s?

im thinking arms so i can actually kill shit

[fair tide]

lol I hit this dude w/ a banger

that's how I feel about druids

[tropic panther]

hey guys

Do I need slam as arms in pvp now ?

[kindred flame]

@fair tide damn grapes im gonna have to go play a few as arms and see how it feels

[fair tide]

feels bursty

af

[kindred flame]

i miss arms tbh, seems like its not a popular sentiment but im an oldschool arena type warrior

[quick carbon]

I might be trippin rn but I feel like arms absolutely fucks right now

actually insane damage

[kindred flame]

i mean they just really buffed us just with the dmg increase today

[quick carbon]

you hit bladestorm and then you hit people for 120k mortal strikes and just win mid bladestorm channel

It’s kinda fire

[kindred flame]

when you talk about numbers like 10% and 25% those are huge changes and then considering another buff when this content releases, i think it's a no brainer

plus on 1 conquest weapon is based

[quick carbon]

it’s at the point where if u buff defensive stance

Arms becomes borderline broken

[kindred flame]

and with the tier chest w/ pvp ilvl i just got, that crit buff is gonna be nutty

so arms is crit > mastery at this point or mastery > cerit

[quick carbon]

crit

vers crit is bis

then it’s haste

Stats that give more rage r better than mastery

[fair tide]

I just hit the druid w/ back to back 100k executes

[quick carbon]

ya execute hits hard

You can actually get 150k+ mortal strikes

In your cds rn

It’s dumb

[fair tide]

I've seen 100k yeah

its nice

[tropic panther]

Do you use slam in pvp as arms ?

[limber wagon]

how do you get 150k mortal strike ?lol

executioner's ?

[quick carbon]

no you can get it from just double op sharpen crit dam buff from spear and every single cd with ur on use

[quick carbon]

You can absolutely bang

executioners will get you almost to 180k tho

[quick carbon]

I think bladestorm proc on avatar is better

and rend is like uselessly awful

I swear

[severe skiff]

rend is a better rage dump than slam, and you will have to dump rage

[wheat jay]

you spam mortals for that my guy

[quick carbon]

I barely ever hit slam

[rare ibex]

Anyone have a macro that swaps between two pvp talents depending on which you have learned? I used to have one, but it doesn't work anymore.

[wheat jay]

mortal mortal mortal

mortal is the name of the game

[severe skiff]

executioner is just rng, reck on avatar/csmash is better than bladestorm proc

[quick carbon]

No it isn’t

[fair tide]

this

[quick carbon]

if you’re unhinged you’re bladestorm proc

you’re always getting ms resets anyway with battlelord and the other ms reset talent I forgot what it’s called

Exhilarating blows?

so I almost never hit slam

[severe skiff]

reck is better because you get it every csmash

it makes your csmash windows that much more potent

you only get the bladestorm on avatar activations

bladestorm on avatar is dogshit

[quick carbon]

you can almost line up bladestorm with every warbreaker anyway

[onyx vale]

you forgot the second part of the talent

[quick carbon]

If you take 1m storm

bladestorm on avatar is absolutely bis if ur unhinged

[severe skiff]

warbreaker is 30sec cd, even with 1min bladestorm they wont line up unless you hold it

it absolutely isn't because you only get that free bladestorm every 1min30sec

[quick carbon]

warbreaker is 45

[onyx vale]

having 20% damage amp on every bladestorm is pretty sweet

especially with storm of destruction anger management unhinged

[quick carbon]

you can rotate bladestorms every 45 seconds

with that talent

that also give you avatar

[onyx vale]

but reck does give 20% crit chance, tbh it's hard

[quick carbon]

Idk why you’d ever play reck

[onyx vale]

it probably depends on what you are facing

[quick carbon]

the only time I’m not unhinged build is when I’m fighting demo lock

[severe skiff]

because critical strikes are so potent for us, a sudden death + MS in a reck window is more consistent damage/burst

reck gets you crit burst on everything you do

since you're always dumping damage in smash windows

and avatar windows usually

[rare ibex]

Just scoped this dude Rio on the armory.. according to pvpleaderboards hes #2 arms.. he has won 98% of his solo shuffle matches as Arms.. wtf.

[quick carbon]

unhinged with storm proc is more damage I promise haha

especially if ur fighting a cleave

[severe skiff]

if you play beyond just trying to 100-0 someone with a bladestorm reck is the better talent

[quick carbon]

agree to disagree ig

[warm pollen]

arms> fury on arenas?

[lean burrow]

no

[quick carbon]

I’m not sure

[lean burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-no-no-emote-emote-nooo-emote-gif-23071619

[quick carbon]

Magnusz is preferring arms rn but fury’s still insane

Who knows

[rare ibex]

People are saying it's only better when coordinated.. because its squishier.

[onyx vale]

remember that if people keep playing fury, blizzard will nerf it

[fair tide]

another one

this is too fucking fun

[quick carbon]

I think it just depends on ur comp

If ur playing with a class that gets trained

[wheat jay]

Arms only needed to outdps fury and start slapping mortals for 40% of someone's hp and y'all swapped

[quick carbon]

Arms will be better

[onyx vale]

i swapped a long time ago, artji

to ww that is

[quick carbon]

I mean arms was hitting dummy hard mortal strikes before today

[onyx vale]

imagine playing warrior

[wheat jay]

Survi for me

[quick carbon]

I think if ur qing a cleave

U play fury still

but if ur with a wizard u go arms

[wheat jay]

Arms still Has a spot in my heart

But arms pvp community doesnt

Y'all wack

[quick carbon]

I will never not play arms it’s just the spec I grew on

I fell in love with the mortal strike keybind

[onyx vale]

what were you expecting from pvp players

we pvp cuz we hate other humans

[wheat jay]

Nah

[quick carbon]

I pvp because I like to get rage whispers after games

[wheat jay]

That's petty

[onyx vale]

that should be a warrior talent

[quick carbon]

hitting someone with the soul inhaler after a dub and getting that first whisper of the night

So prime

[naive sable]

are we thinking that tier set is worth for fury & arms in arena then?

[quick carbon]

arms tier is absolutely worth

[onyx vale]

for arms yes, fury no

[crystal laurel]

wat tier set

[quick carbon]

man they’re gonna end up nerfing arms in pvp I swear

It’s just gonna get more damage

and it’s gonna become insane

[naive sable]

I feel like arms is gonna be sleeper op for sure

they just chain nerf fury every patch rn

[quick carbon]

god thr gonna slap on that 30% ms nerf in pvp again lmfao

I can see it now

[naive sable]

please no hahahah

[quick carbon]

I’d be in shambles

I’d turn into a mythic plus main

[crystal laurel]

honestly i think arms deserve that dmg

the spec is super squish

with no defensive

[naive sable]

arms needs good damage when it dies to a gust of wind

[limber wagon]

just did solo 0-6 solo shuffle as arms, ama

[crystal laurel]

no sustain

all you can do is offense

[limber wagon]

its dumpster

[crystal laurel]

you cant play defense

[quick carbon]

I just did a 6-0 one as arms 😭

[crystal laurel]

you have to be aggresive all the time

[naive sable]

tbf arms could be better for solo shuffle just going full mongo

[crystal laurel]

you have to go full mongo

lol

[fickle forge]

Joe or Whaazz as best warrior?

[quick carbon]

I mean I don’t have to be full ape mode all the time

There’s always a time to be defensive

[crystal laurel]

eh not really the moment your target is away from you, you kinda lose

[quick carbon]

Not really

[naive sable]

honestly with 90% of solo shuffle being DHs, rogues and monks at least they all can get crit hard

[crystal laurel]

you have to stick on em like most of the time

cause unlike fury arms doesnt have self sustain

[quick carbon]

I mean if ur goal is to out train them and win on mana then sure u don’t want to be defensive

but u can play setup comps as arms and be defensive until u do ur go

And still win games

because ur go as arms is so obscene

[naive sable]

im still playing around with what build I like for arms

feel like it has a few really good setups

[quick carbon]

I think unhinged is best rn

a lot of the good warriors prefer it

[naive sable]

you reckon its better than speccing hurricane?

[quick carbon]

Hurricane is dog

[waxen oasis]

Trophy of strife quest only completed by killing other players now?

[ancient dirge]

can you guys pray for my vault pls

a kiss for every man here

[azure saffron]

While raiding if a person is loot lock to a boss does it effect the rest of the raid that is not locked.

[flat dome]

Kinda sucks in solo shuffle if you lose rating, getting it back is increasingly difficult

[late nacelle]

1950 solo shuffle

30 min queues

literally shaking rn

1 bad game = uninstall game

[kind canopy]

what two hand>?

[wheat jay]

@fickle forge

[kind canopy]

the crit vers sword?

[late nacelle]

idk

mastery vers seems better to me

we have tons of sources of free crit chance

just run 0 crit

and then crit anyway

giga hits

[kind canopy]

world quests and war crates give 10 a pop

[grave forum]

How much haste do you guys think is too much?

[warm pollen]

how can i do a def stance macro?

to switch between them with just one button

[grave forum]

im currently at 67% with enrage and frenzy with a wafting proc

[cinder lake]

Guys can anyone tell for sure what are the best weapon enchants in the game?I am trying to figure it seems like frozen write and wafting devotion for fury..Does anyone more experienced have a better opinion?

[grave forum]

its for sure Wafting Devotion

[cinder lake]

Both weapons?

[grave forum]

Are you fury?

[cinder lake]

Yes mate 🙂

[grave forum]

Im doing Wafting Devotion with Earthen Writ

[cinder lake]

I was thinking 1 wep wafting devotion and on the other frozen writ for versa

[grave forum]

Haste and vers procs

[cinder lake]

earthen is not vers though

[grave forum]

sorry

i meant earthen

thats exactly what im doing

[cinder lake]

wait a minute

earthen devotion?

[grave forum]

no

writ

[cinder lake]

ohh

this is actually

mastery

[grave forum]

frozen writ

[cinder lake]

versa

ahh ok

[grave forum]

yea

[cinder lake]

i was confused lol

[grave forum]

me too apparently

[cinder lake]

im also thinking goin th same..haste and vers procs

[grave forum]

[cinder lake]

seems the most beneficial

[grave forum]

Either that

or

whats the one devotion that gives a chance for extra dmg

i think its frozen devotion

[cinder lake]

Bruh i had it

idk seems trash

legit

[grave forum]

what u think

[cinder lake]

trash

for me at least

everytime i see it in bottom legit

[grave forum]

yea i was looking at it and decided on writ for the vers proc

[cinder lake]

i have tested vers enchant

haste ench

and frozen devotion

i legit saw frozen devotion mostly of th times in bottom

not beneficial at all

[warm pollen]

plz

[cinder lake]

btw i messed up so hard..i had in th vault shoulders with haste mastery..the medallion trinket and an 1 hand weapon with crit versa..and i though it was the 2hand so i grabbed it..Im still crying xD

[ancient dirge]

does the charge macro that casts hamstring at the same time not work anymore

[cinder lake]

it works only if u press again charge

same button twice when u get close

#showtooltip Charge
/cast hamstring
/cast charge

[ancient dirge]

felt like it worked without double hitting last year

could be nuts tho

[warm pollen]

is polearm better than swords? for arms n fury ?

[cold depot]

Rolled a claymore with leech in the vault, do I buy another sword or go polearm for second wep

[bright sky]

What's the best fury talent tree for arena?

[kindred viper]

Use Trophy of Strife for OH or say head which has a haste option as opposed to conquest head?

[grave forum]

[main urchin]

What embelishments should we be putting on the boots and helm? I really know nothing about them yet

[toxic latch]

Generally what three pvp talents should we use for fury? Obviously you would change them depending on situations

[low tapir]

no weapon in vault 😦 are you guys crafting one for fury or buying other pieces first?

buying not crafting*

[autumn whale]

farming sparks of life and buying the upgrade with blood tokns

[gusty wing]

I'm buying main hand and offhand with strife

I don't see the point of waiting when it's my highest damage

[weak swallow]

i take back what i said about massacre making execute feel slow cuz of condemn animation

sweeping strikes just makes everything feel fast

[warm pollen]

wich one u bought? polearm or sword

@gusty wing

the one with trophys

[gusty wing]

Haven't bought yet but the strife weps suck

[warm pollen]

really?

why

[gusty wing]

I think it's verse mastery?

[warm pollen]

vers crit i think

[gusty wing]

Then I'll be buying that

[warm pollen]

yeah i think so

[gusty wing]

Make sure to not buy the int 2h sword that's verse haste

[weak swallow]

okay dear god im going back to rend

[gusty wing]

You don't want to be the smartest orc fury

[weak swallow]

that rage generation is unmatched

[ancient dirge]

yea no one has accidently bought the 2h int sword beofre

[weak swallow]

almost.

[warm pollen]

so polearm is it?

[ancient dirge]

my question is

why even put a 2hand int sword in the vendor

who is that for

[brazen rock]

evoker.

and hpal

[ancient dirge]

why does evoker use weapons

[brazen rock]

why do mages use weapons

[ancient dirge]

🤔

[brazen rock]

[warm pollen]

so is it the polearm?

[brazen rock]

???

[white nexus]

i got some Set Shoulders in my vault, the 2 set bonus is 10% MS + Cleave Dmg. Can anyone tell me where i can get this set normally?

[warm pollen]

we buyin pole arm?

[raw summit]

In raid

[weak swallow]

bro

how am i getting half the heals of my resto on arms

what the fuk

[warm pollen]

crit vers polearm bis? before conq weap?

[brazen rock]

for what spec

[warm pollen]

fury

or arms

bot

[brazen rock]

it works fine for both

[main urchin]

Any thoughts on arms vs fury for rbgs?

[brazen rock]

0 reason to bring fury over dh right now

arms atleast brings sharpen

[pearl prism]

do we need to set spec to arms before we open vault?

as in, even if youre playing fury

[warm pollen]

what for

[whole condor]

big daddys

best 3s comp for fury atm?

[pearl prism]

So basically, my first vault item is fucked right? I only had time to farm for one item... and I got the pvp head slot

But I want to equip Infurious head right? so I basically got shit all?

[whole condor]

I believe so

[sharp meteor]

doesn't rly matter

[brazen rock]

yes go arms

fury and prot can have 1handers

[pearl prism]

yeh

[stuck karma]

@pearl prism you loot as arms, because you dont wanna get 1h

[pearl prism]

yep, cheers

[cinder lake]

Is Sophic Devotion(Gives primary stat+giga expensive) better than Frozen Writ(Gives Versa-Kinda cheap)?

idk why it is so expensive..and frozen writ is cheap while it gives so much versa

[whole condor]

in my games, I don't find that I'm dying. I'm rarely the target. It's damage I need to compete with DHs etc

[thick reef]

Yo I just got my conq greatsword - what do I get with trophies of strife now?

Also the greatsword?

[warm pollen]

greatsword?

dont we take the polearm?

crit vers?

[thick reef]

the polearm is vers/mastery

I still haven't equipped, so I can switch

I'm just asking what to get with trophies

cuz I already got mainhand with conquest points

[weak swallow]

nah

arms is just dumb

LMAO

what is this donkey burst

[warm pollen]

the trophy of strife polearm?

[weak swallow]

wait

theres a max to loadouts

and its across all specs?

[warm pollen]

i just bought this one, dont tell me i fuck it lol

did i?

[weak swallow]

u fuk it

jk

good till replaced