pvp

[torpid roost]

the fuck is that required for a pve item level upgrade for

[wooden grove]

It is for conquest weapon

[spice hornet]

why this enh allowed to ascend 3x in a row

[brazen rock]

random proc

from talent

[spice hornet]

...

[delicate bronze]

How you guys farm trophy?

[brazen rock]

5man group at pvp wq

[wooden grove]

Did you play SL? Because you would know why it shouldn’t affect PvP ilvl. If you farm mythic plus it’ll be easier to get high ilvl PvE gear than getting elite would be.

[thick reef]

It's a weekly

[jovial meteor]

@wooden grove

[regal cradle]

the 2h polearm is the one to get with conquest pooints right?

[torpid roost]

no, "why is that required for PVE item level"

I know it doesn't effect PVP item level

[restive junco]

what should be the top priority for conquest? is the polearm worth it?

[thick reef]

https://tenor.com/view/dh9511dh-head-banging-on-the-wall-gif-13355825

[turbid ember]

Read ALL the stats carefully on the polearm

[brazen rock]

its mastery vers...

just dont buy the agi polearm

[turbid ember]

Tbf, the polearm shouldn't even be an option

[torpid roost]

well it isn't, really

you have to bypass some shit to buy it

[restive junco]

no, i was meaning like should i j;ust get trinket/ring ect

instead of the weapon

[brazen rock]

no

wep everytime

[eternal iron]

What is wrong

[turbid ember]

You're full of it lol, always weapon

[brazen rock]

if your playing arms, go crit wep

[eternal iron]

with this polearm?

[brazen rock]

nothing

[regal cradle]

wdym

[uneven turret]

I guess the crit/vers sword give me the option to play arms right? Even though ver/mastery polearm is better for fury

[regal cradle]

it just shows up at the conq vendor

[torpid roost]

an agility item?

wtf

[eternal iron]

Its a str polearm

[regal cradle]

its strength

[eternal iron]

what are you talking about

[torpid roost]

oh,yeah, that's fine then

the shit the other people were in here talking about

go to all instead of warrior to buy it, haste vers agi pole

[scenic maple]

scroll to top of menu and filter by warrior to see the STR polearm if you're into that

[delicate bronze]

Is frozen devotion the best for all melee?

[restive junco]

i hope not. i just blew money on sophic dev

[dawn mulch]

Should I aim for both crafted pvp helm and crafted pvp boots?

[thorn herald]

Muh vault

[brazen rock]

gz on wep

also fuck you

[thorn herald]

Went with tier

[brazen rock]

[thorn herald]

Get 2pc next week

Yeet

[delicate bronze]

Next week we boutta crit

With unhinged

[thorn herald]

Don't u wanna be me :^)

[jovial meteor]

😆

[brazen rock]

[thorn herald]

For real would rather get crit sword

[brazen rock]

fair

mast is kinda dookie

[restive junco]

i wonder if they will release more epic pvp patterns

[brazen rock]

i got legs so im just grateful i didnt get bracers/ring/medallion

probably in s2.

[thorn herald]

Also raiding as arms u want crit versa, new raid has 2 2h drops and it's contested in my grp

[thorn herald]

Some people swearing by crit mastery

Over haste

[brazen rock]

who is some people

cuz the arms chads i follow went crit/haste

[eternal iron]

isnt it supposed to be crit haste arms, haste mastery fury?

[leaden lynx]

how much haste % should arms shoot for?

[knotty kraken]

got non-tier legs fml

[brazen night]

from the pinned arms guide in the channel

[vale ibex]

if running arms, conq weap, what should i buy with the strife tokens?

[wheat crane]

If you can hit like 12-15% haste id dump the rest in crit on pcs

Just check when you hit the pvp dummie tho since gear scales

[dawn mulch]

Should I spend my sparks on crafted pvp helm and feet or are their bonuses not worth it?

[uneven turret]

O god, is weapon enchant different for fury vs arms?

[leaden lynx]

Ye, I think stats is good for arms

[uneven turret]

Man i dont want to play arms, like so much more buttons than fury haha

[near night]

Hi guys, sorry to bother. I play 2v2 with preservation evoker, and 3v3 with preservation evoker and ret. I am fury warrior. I have a hard time dealing with lock spriest on 2v2 and 3v3. I have a hard time catching up to warlocks and they heal like 1.5 million in an arena. Any tips how to play against double ranged? I couldnt find any up to date guides especially on this matter.

[leaden lynx]

It is so many more buttons but it does feel pretty good the little bit of have played it today

[uneven turret]

How

[mild thunder]

arms doesnt even have that many keybinds, people are just brainrotted

[gritty salmon]

You need to use wrecking throws timely

[uneven turret]

Fury is just BT/Rampage. Arms have rend/OP/MS/Slam

[gritty salmon]

Their shield is what’s making you deal little damage

Warbringer is mandatory when chasing

[onyx vale]

and you barely press slam

[mild thunder]

you're just proving my point... 4 buttons isnt exactly "a lot"

[near night]

Do you know what is their shield? So i can find a way to track it? Sorry im started pvp this season and kinda noob 😅

[onyx vale]

play the rendless build and you got ms and overpower

[near night]

I always use that yes it feels good

[gritty salmon]

I’m not sure what’s it’s called but it’s the red one

Red orange one

[uneven turret]

What build is that. Also if its less optimal then rend build is kinda mandatory no

[gritty salmon]

That one absorbs around 90-100k

[eternal iron]

Do we know when the tier sets for pvp are coming?

[gritty salmon]

But you can shatter it

[gritty salmon]

Already came

In this vault

[eternal iron]

Oh really!?

[gritty salmon]

And the tier set is same

For all classes

[brazen rock]

catalyst is jan 23rd

iirc

so its "out" but not really out out

[gritty salmon]

Yes if your lucky with the vault you can already get a piece

[eternal iron]

Whats the tier set anyways?

[gritty salmon]

Some already have

[eternal iron]

If its the same for everyone

[gritty salmon]

For fury it’s garbage

[mild thunder]

what?

[gritty salmon]

For fury it’s more execute critical strike chance @eternal iron

[eternal iron]

Booo

wow that blows

[gritty salmon]

Which is garbage because bloodthirst does more damage under 35% health then execute critical strike chance lmfao

[near night]

Alright thanks for the tips, also someone knows if i have a pvp vault. Does the item level matter? Or it will scale up as pvp aswell, and if yes is it conquest ilvl or just the honor gear? Never opened pvp vault before

[gritty salmon]

Because of the 50% modifier

[gritty salmon]

You can see if you have it

I’ve tested it, bloodthirst under 35% health does more damage then execute crit

But maybe with ashen juggernaut there might be some viability

But I doubt it

[craggy socket]

That’s wild

Execute is just trash for fury huh

[crimson sentinel]

2h sword or polearm for fury?

[gritty salmon]

Tickles

[gritty salmon]

Haste

The one that has haste

[torpid roost]

you have a fucking ton of buttons if you aren't garbage

[gritty salmon]

The weapon type is irrelevant

[craggy socket]

Is everyone grabbing conquest weapon and drake breaker weapon for fury?

[crimson sentinel]

neither weapon has haste, its crit/vers or vers/mastery

[gritty salmon]

Then Vers mastery

[onyx vale]

probably something like that since just taking rend it doesnt deal a whole lot of damage and making it worth it costs a lot of points https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/827522497414824017/1050457482864119819/image.png

[heavy basin]

Will the war arms be good again in pvp?
or will he continue to dominate fury?

[gritty salmon]

Mastery has more utility due to enrage being near 100%

Uptime

[onyx vale]

if you go spear you don't have the dragon roar bleed amp

[thick reef]

I never put much mind to it, is execute worth using on fury at all if bt is hitting harder

[gritty salmon]

It’s good but fury is better

Arms is very good now

[onyx vale]

probably will change once we get the mini rework and are allowed to have some choice in our tree

[gritty salmon]

People just want it to be S tier class like shadowlands otherwise it’s bad for them

[uneven turret]

Hmm, so thinking about buying 424 weapon, then 3 pieces of 421 with trophy, what u guyhs think

[gritty salmon]

Always buy weapon first

[uneven turret]

I am

[heavy basin]

I am between deciding if I go for fury or arms

[uneven turret]

424 conquest weapon, then 3 pieces of 421 with trophy

[maiden grove]

Sophic Writ for Arms enchant?

[heavy basin]

I am between deciding if I go for fury or arms...Help me

[weary sky]

I owuld go arms given the momentum blizzard is having

nerfing fury and buffing arms

also arms is already good

but who knows

[uneven turret]

Pretty sure arms is still alot less survivalbility than fury right now right

They buffed the damage but not survivalbility

[warm portal]

Arms does big dam but you catch a ricochet dh glaive toss and fall over

[restive junco]

arms feels slower to me

[uneven turret]

Arms is always slower

2h spec vs DW

[vale ibex]

But them smacks feel good. Seeing the hp bar disappear

[weary sky]

its more squishy for sure but the dmage might be higher

so depends on how are you going to play

[clever furnace]

boiz is a 418 crit/verse lariat viable for PVP?

or should i just use a PVP 424 neck?

[onyx vale]

well consider that everyone just got a HUGE PASSION for playing spriest and warlock

that pve you down like they are fighting a dummy

[obtuse musk]

but what weapon enchants

[onyx vale]

and arms is the squishiest spec in the game

and your biggest defensive cd barely works vs those two classes

[weary sky]

its squishy but the most? no

[brazen rock]

idk after most recent lock nerfs

[small silo]

what do we spend trophy of strife on offhand or other items ?

[brazen rock]

i fuck em hard

[onyx vale]

alright who has less defensive cds than arms?

[weary sky]

play vs a MM hunter and see

force turtle in 10 seconds and kill in 20

[onyx vale]

yes

force die by the sword in 10 sec and kill in 20

i can type that too

[toxic mesa]

Ugh, cape/boot/trinket (alacrity) from vault. Guessing grab the cape for arms? Trinket has haste/chance for 755 primary stat

[weary sky]

but thats not true

you can write wahatever you want lol

[onyx vale]

it isn't?

[restive junco]

solo que time is somehow worse now

[woeful solstice]

NA or EU?

i had instant que

[weary sky]

no, i dont think arms is the most squishy spec right now

[woeful solstice]

2200 mmr

[restive junco]

NA 39 mins 1600 mmr

/reload 4 times

nothing helps lol

id roll a healer to play but idk how kek

[warm portal]

Wait longer, that'll help

[restive junco]

heard mix results drake

[onyx vale]

so you don't feel that the class with 40 yards range and whose job it kite you with an invulnerability is as fragile as the class whose job is to jump into the melee between the rogue and the dh

well that's nice for them

[weary sky]

i think we have different definitions of squishy then. MM properly kitting is a thing of the past. Most meles have too much movility

[onyx vale]

its not even about mobility, it's about uptime, you'll always have more uptime on an arms warrior that is supposed to be in your team than on a mm hunter

said arms warrior that can ofc die in his wall unlike the mm hunter because a stun negates half of it

[steel palm]

1h mace or tier gloves from vault

[onyx vale]

why 1hand

don't play single minded fury

[steel palm]

wow hates me and wants me to have the worst pieces

[uneven turret]

Question, why are we crafting infurious helm? Do the other bonus besides the boots all suck? Its kind of bad to craft in a tier slot no?

[brazen rock]

opened in fury spec

rip

[steel palm]

new to warrior, my bad

kill me

[brazen rock]

tier gloves then lol

[warm portal]

Yeah change your loot spec to arms even if you're playing fury

[steel palm]

sick game

[flat dome]

rng gods love me

[torn stream]

Is single minded fury just not viable?

[flat dome]

conquest weapon, pve weapon, and two tier pieces in vault lol

[warm portal]

Its not good

[thick reef]

For now the ilvl wins it out doesn't it?

[restive junco]

is there plans to make primal chaos transferable to alts?

[thick reef]

No

[restive junco]

thats lame

[onyx vale]

talking about that weird spec into arms thing for loot

[main urchin]

I'd think Arms has better burst?

I'd hope

[onyx vale]

do dks have anyway to only loot 1handed weapon now that 2handed is accepted for frost?

[woeful solstice]

set frost as spec

[undone pumice]

is speed gems still the best?

[woeful solstice]

ya leech is microscopic gains

[undone pumice]

wut about normal stat gems

[onyx vale]

oh so frost spec can't loot 2 handers despite having 2 hander talents? i suppose that works

better than having no way of avoiding 2 handers anyway

[clever furnace]

boiz is a 418 crit/verse Elemental Lariat necklace viable for PVP? Or should i be using the 424 PVP neck instead?

[thick reef]

Easy way to find outm check the raid journal with spec set to frost and see if 2 handers show up

If they do then no, you can't make dk only loot 1 hand

[onyx vale]

very good question, I wonder if orcs should just skip the boots and try to get a high ilvl pve craft instead

[thick reef]

Pve is for nerds

[onyx vale]

well you don't have to do pve to get it

[woeful solstice]

reject tradition

embrace modernity

go dark iron

[onyx vale]

I'm not a human player

[undone pumice]

speed gems vs leech gems vs stat gems?

[onyx vale]

I play orc for the skin

[thick reef]

If dark iron could be horde I would be one right now

[onyx vale]

only human players fotm rolled to dark irons

green till death

[undone pumice]

if racials removed and guilds and everything cross fac id prob be dworf

[woeful solstice]

dark iron since bfa

[thick reef]

I would be dark iron just because dwarves > all
But dwarf can't beat out how terrible alliance as a whole is

[woeful solstice]

wdym my bg winrate is like 80%

[onyx vale]

tbh I say that but I'd play any race to get the gnome racial

[woeful solstice]

chad gnome

[onyx vale]

dwarf human night elf, even draenei

just not a disgusting gnome

that's the one race that is too disgusting even for the nicest racial in the game

[undone pumice]

however

imagine dying to a gnome

[onyx vale]

ahhhh, sweet gnome racial, forever eluding me

[undone pumice]

instantly suicidal

[woeful solstice]

gnome and dark iron chads

[onyx vale]

no

[woeful solstice]

dont need to overcompensate by being an orc i promise

[onyx vale]

dark irons have a little style, I'll give them that

[thick reef]

Vulpera pride world wide

[onyx vale]

gnomes are plain awful

just like vulperats

[woeful solstice]

yeah vulp is worst

[craggy socket]

God damnit

I love waiting 30 fucking minutes for solo q for some retard to leave after 5 rounds

[thick reef]

I've been panda since mop, I'd give it all away for horde dwarf

[craggy socket]

Pound sand fucking loser

[undone pumice]

everything > darkspear trolls > gnomes > vulpera > elves and their somehow even more devolved variations

[craggy socket]

How do we STILL not getting after people leaving

Esp low mmr

its always going to have ppl leaving at 0 cr who get cranked

games dumb

1600s still playing 0 cr players

[thick reef]

i never see fellow dwarf warrior bros

[undone pumice]

dwarf is just short spine short leg snydrome short arm syndrome orc

[woeful solstice]

SUP BRAH

[thick reef]

brother

[turbid ember]

Blizz's matchmaking in games...has room for improvement. Like Nintendo with anything online

[undone pumice]

pls help

[sterile ferry]

tier set from pvp, didnt expect that

[woeful solstice]

dark iron
-beard that is always on fire
-can teleport around the game between dimensions with a fucking mole machine
-poisons? dots? pffft i purge and get bigger when I do

[undone pumice]

vers gems or stat gems?

[thick reef]

give me root break back pls blizz

[woeful solstice]

we need some downsides its ok

[thick reef]

no spin scuffed stoneform

[warm portal]

You can get both in a combo. Vers+haste for example

[fair dome]

crit vers weapon or mas vers?

[undone pumice]

ye but its better to focus on one no?

[brazen rock]

mas if fury, crit if arms

[undone pumice]

• 18 crit if i choose to get 33 vers with it

hmmm

[craggy socket]

Wait wtf my trophies from last week are gone...

[leaden lynx]

you dont use it you lose it

jk that really sucks

[craggy socket]

This is the buggest xpac ever

everything is constantly broken

[thick reef]

gladiatorlossa settings reset every relog :l bruh hasent updated since november

[hard hound]

Not here work well for me

[craggy socket]

I cant fucking believe my trophies are gone

[thick reef]

really tf, other people have reported same issue on his curseforge

[craggy socket]

going to take 4 dyas to get a ticket answered

[spice hornet]

something is wrong with disc priest mana

[vale ibex]

Check your bank and bags again?

[thick reef]

what happened to wows gms man

[spice hornet]

my partner is ooming even faster this week

[arctic rampart]

stay in d stance entire time

[left scarab]

yo is this common? or are you a one off

concerned EU player here

[severe skiff]

my trophies remained intact

NA player

[leaden lynx]

i've got trophies

[red ether]

i take the weapon right

[clever furnace]

what are best gems for necklace?

all verse?

[weak swallow]

The weapon takes you

[clever furnace]

for arms?

[weak swallow]

Yeah wep dmg outscales all

Gz on that luck dayum

[clever furnace]

boiz what are the best gems for necklace?

as arms pvp

[weak swallow]

I personally go vers haste tho i seen people talk about mainstat +vers gem?

So if thats a thing then id think that would be best

[woeful solstice]

hmmm

trophy offhand or 2 pieces of armor

already have polearm

[weak swallow]

Trophy?

[woeful solstice]

strife wep

[weak swallow]

Ss idk

[nimble dirge]

What are those swords?

[red ether]

ty sir

[woeful solstice]

WOD CM gold

with the new primal fire illusion

[weak swallow]

Those swords look hot asf

Pun.

[woeful solstice]

oh ya they spicy

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge u q with disc right? my disc is ooming while other healers are 40%+ right away

[nimble dirge]

Damn

[soft zodiac]

Tf is this anyone else DC?

[delicate bronze]

yep

crashed

[soft zodiac]

Sick was in a solo shuffle

[delicate bronze]

same

[leaden lynx]

yeah, in the middle of a gulch

[soft zodiac]

Fucking apes blizz god dammit

[woeful solstice]

what wep enchant we going now

frozen?

[leaden lynx]

i think frozen mh and haste oh

cause that movement speed

you can do dual frozen for most damage tho

[maiden grove]

what about enchant for arms

mh

[leaden lynx]

i'm going stats

[restive junco]

just dont be like me and waste 100k on sophic lmao

fk you wowhead and icyveins

[woeful solstice]

wtf stat isnt good?

im shocked

[brazen rock]

main stat is fine.

[soft zodiac]

Sophic no good? D:

[leaden lynx]

blowin all my cash on sophic

but i am arms

[soft zodiac]

Same bapa

[main urchin]

Kind of feel like wandering back to arms, I played it pretty much exclusively since Vanilla.

Fury's been fun... meh I dunno.

[maiden grove]

Wait so Sophic or stats for arms lol

[craggy socket]

Great servers are down

blizzard has cucked me out of so much time today

[delicate bronze]

im in the game

[restive junco]

i get in for 2 secs and back out

[arctic rampart]

gym time

[craggy socket]

billion dollar company and they have a game full of bugs 24/7

Ive never seen it this bad

[main urchin]

Did you play the new CoD?

[delicate bronze]

@brazen rock what enchants you running on the rest of your equips?

[main urchin]

This is cake

[craggy socket]

CoD is dog shit

[restive junco]

theyve been farming Ws with their decisions but this kind of stuff is awful lol

[main urchin]

The bugs there are bonkers.

[soft zodiac]

CoD is DOOKIE with the amount of issues man

[brazen rock]

vers

[craggy socket]

Everyday its another bug

my action bars dont update

game log in servrs down

[restive junco]

use evlui its better anyway :L)

[craggy socket]

trophies of strife missing

[restive junco]

LMAO ive got "character with that name already exists bugg" trying to log lmao

wtf is this game

[craggy socket]

Yup getting that one too

or "5-0 in solo shuffle someone leaves you get 0 rating"

thats just fucking bullshit

[restive junco]

they fixed that one though los

[uneven turret]

Can anyone tell me what reward is the daily pvp quest today?

[craggy socket]

SO yeah im mad

ive been fucked and cucked out of so much time today

[restive junco]

youll get rating now if someone leaves

and theyll get account wide leavers debuff

so atleast they did somethign

[main urchin]

@uneven turret There was a Drake helm? Though really I was just capping out my Trophy of Strife for a weapon

Really eazy sparks right now

[craggy socket]

Thats not true

I just did a solo

[woeful solstice]

progress baby

[craggy socket]

5-0 someone left nobody got rating

[restive junco]

@craggy socket they put it in the patch notes i thought it went live today

[uneven turret]

Wtf u do that for. If i got wep from vault i wouldn’t spend my conquest on another wep

[craggy socket]

Im telling you i did not happen for me today

[craggy socket]

Why not? 2 weapons is the biggest gain

[uneven turret]

Idk, carry-over logic from pve as fury. You never priorize OH for fury, doesn’t do anything.

[woeful solstice]

one is conq i bought and other is drakebreaker

[uneven turret]

O

[woeful solstice]

plus with annihilator build a lot of your dmg is autoattack

[uneven turret]

I am planning to spend trophy on other slots personally

[craggy socket]

Yeah conq and drakebreaker seem to be the play

[main urchin]

That's what I'm working on

[woeful solstice]

and more stam from weps

[brazen rock]

investing into fury 🤮

[woeful solstice]

winning 😄

[brazen rock]

still losing to dh/assa in all brackets

[woeful solstice]

believe me brah i love arms too

[uneven turret]

I haven’t done the math, but i can get 3 pieces of 421 with trophy, pretty much thats more stats gain than one weapon

[woeful solstice]

but fury is just much more friendly to the brackets right now

also im an lfg hero

so i need to be more flexible

[brazen rock]

id rather just suffer as arms

[woeful solstice]

if i had a team consistently id play arms

100%

[hazy isle]

What build u running

[brazen rock]

search my posts, i posted it a while ago

[hazy isle]

Kk

[restive junco]

wonder if it was a server crash or they took it offline to push something through?

[uneven turret]

Is there any bloody token world quest today

[restive junco]

@uneven turret yea "wild arcana"

[uneven turret]

How much bloody token

[restive junco]

i think the usual 200

they need to put more stuff in the bloody token vendor all these useless tokens just sitting there

or make them transferable and you lose some

[uneven turret]

Damn i need one of those 500 or 700 ones

[tight imp]

Woo-hoo got a 2h from vault

[restive junco]

its 288 @uneven turret

[uneven turret]

Thats a strange number

Lol

Aight

[woeful solstice]

fuck everyone that got a wep from vault

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[restive junco]

^

[nimble dirge]

How does fury feels after the 5% warpaint nerf?

[woeful solstice]

feels the same to me

[restive junco]

unholy dk got waaaaya to many buffs

wtf

[tight imp]

Sooo if I get my one 2h from vault, would yall get to 1800 conquest and buy a 2nd? Or buy other pieces

[turbid ember]

I got the 2h crit sword from my vault as fury...I still take that right?

[tranquil raven]

Does it matter if i open vault as fury or arms?

[raw summit]

you really gonna pass on a weapon bro?

[lucid walrus]

hell yeah you do

1800 conquest is 1800 conquest

[turbid ember]

Truuuue

[tight imp]

That's what I got, I took it

But, idk wtf I'm doing so 🤷

[thorn herald]

its like the fury warrior starter pack

conq weap drake breaker off hand

"believe me i love arms"

[weary sky]

Does anyone have a video of a burst arms rotation on dummy?

I do around 50 as fury during like 30 sec while on arms I stay at 40 or so

[short glacier]

pls help - fury

absolute shit lol

or is neck good for the 3 slots?

[sly prairie]

so crit or mastery wep for fury waht did people get

[lucid walrus]

guessing ring is crit

[lucid walrus]

doesn’t feel like ring would be the play anyway. it’s def between the other two

[short glacier]

so is the neck

[lucid walrus]

depends if you want something permanent to throw sockets into or want a little more conquest efficiency

[short glacier]

well i got the furious boots for the 15% thing

[lucid walrus]

oh shit

yeaaaaah idk. i guess it’s neck

[short glacier]

so guess its just the neck then

[lucid walrus]

rough vault my man

[thorn herald]

neck can get 3 sockets

not too bad to get

er

neck

neck*

[lucid walrus]

ya that’s what we’re talking abt

[short glacier]

yeah looks like neck it is

[wide lance]

I already have the 421 2H sword, would I be better served to pickup 2 pieces of conquest gear or all of jewelry over buying the 424 conquest sword?

[hexed ocean]

we want the vers mast 2h for fury right

[short glacier]

im dumb how does this work

do i need 3 of them?

or just 1 gold one?>

[tardy flame]

All three of them. Use the lowest tier one first, then second tier, then third tier

[short glacier]

gotcha ty is this explained in game or am i just missing it

[uneven turret]

Nothing is explained in-game

[tardy flame]

As far as I know it is not explicity stated anywhere in-game

[uneven turret]

Also u can buy 2x the 2 star quality ones

[tardy flame]

I used a tier 2 on my neck then couldn't use a tier 1

[uneven turret]

Use it to add 2 sockets

[tardy flame]

Yes

[uneven turret]

Dont buy the tie 1 seting

[tardy flame]

The tiers are basically "allows you to add a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd socket"

So you can do three tier 3s if you want

But two 2s and one 3 is the best value based on that screenshot

[uneven turret]

Exactly

[short glacier]

awesome ty 😄

[leaden lynx]

the last thing they need to do to improve world pvp is get rid of the rez timer when you die alot

[tardy flame]

That is in place to force you to wait for CDs so you stand a chance after getting your ass whooped

[tranquil raven]

Does it matter if i open vault as fury or arms? can i only have 1h as fury, so i open as arms? is that correct?

[leaden lynx]

correct

[tranquil raven]

ty

[uneven turret]

Haha hes buying exactly what i am planning to buy. Cept that he got mastery polearm instead of crit sword.

[bright flume]

what are you guys playing now they ruined fury

getting slapped like a clothy lol

actually nvm all cloth weareres are tankier

[bright flume]

wait if u open as arms wouldnt u get the wrong stats on all the armor?

[leaden lynx]

no

[nimble jasper]

“ruined” fury

lmao

[bright flume]

yeah what do u call a 33% heal reduction and a 5% damage taken nerf?

a buff?

lmao

[nimble jasper]

a nerf

but not ruined

[bright flume]

have u tried?

feels pretty horrible 1v1 now

[nimble jasper]

who tf cares about 1v1

[bright flume]

rogue and dh one shot

[nimble jasper]

irrelevant

[bright flume]

right

[nimble jasper]

monks oneshot harder than dhs

weird how you left them out

[bright flume]

weird how u getting worked up over a comment on a game

lol

peace

[nimble jasper]

you’re the one with the overreaction of “ruined”

🤡 hour

fury’s one of those specs that shouldnt be good

same as sin rogue

[quick carbon]

based

BASED AND TRUE

[bright flume]

brain dead cunt i just opened as arms and got tier set for arms nobody listen to this kid

thanks heaps gronk

if you dont know shut the fuck u p

[quick carbon]

that word isn’t allowed here

[brazen rock]

[nimble jasper]

damn if only your tier bonus adjusted to what spec you were currently in

[bright flume]

NOBODY OPEN AS ARMS IF YOUR FURY

[quick carbon]

cringe lord to the MAX

[brazen rock]

tier is shared between spec

[lucid walrus]

aussie brain

[brazen rock]

you absolute ape

[wheat jay]

Huh

[brazen rock]

holy shit

[quick carbon]

[wheat jay]

Bro you're stupid

[tardy flame]

Please don't lump me in with him 😭

[lucid walrus]

blood rushin to their head bc the ground harnesses got em inverted

[lucid walrus]

my bad boss

[quick carbon]

look at him, hiding in shame now

[nimble jasper]

this is brain on too much fury warrior

bm hunter of melee

[lucid walrus]

gronk is a funny insult ngl

[quick carbon]

is arms feeling any better yet boys

[brazen rock]

yeah im having fun

[nimble jasper]

feels ok

[quick carbon]

I’ve only had fun when qing with wizards who get trained into the dirt kekw

[nimble jasper]

dh blade dance still hits too damn hard

[brazen rock]

play with ret

[nimble jasper]

for a rotational ability

[brazen rock]

still lose to dh comps

butttt

its still fun

[nimble jasper]

idk this season

demo spriest still makes me want to uninstall

[quick carbon]

if you want a break from shadow play craft

Play total war war hammer 3

[mild thunder]

This is what playing fury does to you

Don’t do it kids

[quick carbon]

It’s GIGA fun

[mild thunder]

Stay safe

[nimble jasper]

shadowplay is like

lol

idk

rather get ran at by dh cleaves

cuz at least i can play my char while im dying

[quick carbon]

I’d rather die to void volley than get hunted for 200k idk

Both r cringe

[nimble jasper]

also dhs arent raidbosses like demo locks

[lucid walrus]

horrifies are the worst form of cc in the game

[nimble jasper]

only issue i have with hunt is how easy

you can cancel it

[lucid walrus]

i age 5x quicker when hit with one

[quick carbon]

When they ego u after the game because they fake cast hunt and u hit parry

[nimble jasper]

i was getting my tmogs done

some dh malded cuz i killed him on rogue

after he blurs air

[quick carbon]

bro they literally blur off their mount

It’s glorious

[nimble jasper]

i just

gave him the /pulse

and i got angry dms

[brazen rock]

DH players mald so quick its great

I dicked one for a 170k MS and he raged at me next round

[quick carbon]

when I want angry dms I just leave solo shuffles on round 6

[brazen rock]

absolutely devilish.

[quick carbon]

it is what it is

[nimble jasper]

kill rdruid or evoker player in opener

game ends

cuz guy leaves

[quick carbon]

woah bro why’d you edit that

we don’t use that word here

[nimble jasper]

idk whats worse spriest or lock rn

[quick carbon]

spriest

I find running at warlocks less annoying

if they’re ua

demo is diff

[crude bane]

https://clips.twitch.tv/OnerousLachrymoseNewtMoreCowbell-m8KyzpG0uE73po0I

meanwhile

we argue over fury is better than arms or not

[nimble jasper]

why are you surprised

they kept keefer’s

[crude bane]

pvp is the same joke since WOD i guess

[quick carbon]

wod pvp was goated

Idc what u say

[nimble jasper]

turbo was gross

and red buff combat rogues

[quick carbon]

turbo was balanced

[weary sky]

Nah, this tine they are making an effort atleast

[quick carbon]

turbo had counters too

It was giga balanced

Bring back wod

wod classic pls

[nimble jasper]

idk why but

[weary sky]

Plenty of changes on blizzards part

[nimble jasper]

the average player just sucks at doing monk burst

even tho its easy af

[crude bane]

how they can mess up

[nimble jasper]

spending multiple globals in sweep

not doing dam

[crude bane]

its 1 press button macro

[nimble jasper]

usually

[quick carbon]

not surprised, people mess up fury warrior rotation

People r not smart

[nimble jasper]

lmao

they do changes but

sin rogue “nerf”

[thick reef]

the guy seems a bit challenged

[nimble jasper]

slap on the wrist

[quick carbon]

I was hoping rogue would feel easier to deal with

Rip

[weary sky]

The inly thing I complain is sin rogue and evoker

[nimble jasper]

idk if they fixed the numbing poison bug

[worthy fern]

Anyone queued and felt like anything g was easier after nerfs

[weary sky]

The rest are fine

[worthy fern]

Locks sp rogues etc

[nimble jasper]

or is sin rogue hitting you still gonna make you play with 12% less haste

all game

[turbid ember]

So was it true that OH doesn't get any damage scaling and just a stat stick?

[nimble jasper]

idk they nerfed deathmark but I’ve killed so often without

maybe i cant full send on no hots rdruids

and kill them through every cd

but thats it

[weary sky]

Anyone have a quick clip of an arms burst on dummy?

Or if not a video a number

[nimble jasper]

one day i need to thank mud for creating a generation of mongo furies

that instant trinket disarm on reck

[quick carbon]

bro people trinketing disarms for recklessness

As if they don’t proc it on their rotational ability

[trail sapphire]

if we weren't graced with weapon from vault is it polearm or sword?

[quick carbon]

It’s whatever has the stats you want

[trail sapphire]

aight

[uneven turret]

Whats wrong with that?

[nimble jasper]

i mean….

[lean burrow]

this is still usable, wtf

[nimble jasper]

if your healer is in bumfuck

and enemy team can rip your anus in two

[lean burrow]

btw, what's the spriest's talent that gives psyfiend big absorb shield?

or do they literally pws their psyfiend?

[nimble jasper]

they can pws it

[crude bane]

they shield them

you cant dispel

heheheheheheheheheheh

cant wait for the sp buff

[burnt glen]

ok so if you want 2H weapons make sure you select arms

:))))))))))

fuck u blizzard

[weary sky]

lol is this true? I forgot

thanks in eu we dont have the vault yet

[scarlet barn]

that is known

for like

2,5 years

[cinder thorn]

Is the best in slot gear going to be conquest or the wpvp gear

For arenas

And bgs etc

[weary sky]

never played fury before, not that retard

[scarlet barn]

Well glad you are playing it now

🙃

[uneven turret]

@elfin surge gz on wep!

[elfin surge]

poggers

[uneven turret]

Holy shit with + speed too

[jovial meteor]

is the Infurious Helm of Vengeance a must or can we get by without it?

[hexed ocean]

doo weapon enchants work in pvp and if soo what ones do we want for fury

[weary sky]

na fury keeps being higher on dps

like 10% on my testing

[uneven turret]

How do u test

[weary sky]

playing

[warm portal]

Thoughts?

[uneven turret]

I’d take tier, No other way to get 424 tier until Jan 23rd

[near delta]

Tier so much tier

[jovial meteor]

is the Infurious Helm of Vengeance a must or can we get by without it?

[warm portal]

Oh its literally a month until we can catalyst it? RIP

[warm portal]

You can get by without it

[jovial meteor]

i chose the tier head, dno if that was a mistake

[eternal iron]

So like, is 2* and 3* enchants for weapon that big of a difference

[uneven turret]

Kinda juggling that one too. I feel bad about taking up a potential tier slot but i guess an early 424 helm is good

[nimble jasper]

bit more stats

sophic devotion 3 is like less than 100 primary more than sophic devotion 2

though

[heavy basin]

BRO

LINK UPDATE 10.0.5 PLIS

Will fury continue to be better than arms?

[jovial meteor]

14k for soph writ, beautiful

[uneven turret]

R2? R2 frozen devotion is like 30k, r3 85k or smthing

[nimble jasper]

writ is alot weaker

r3 sophic devotion is over 100k

[uneven turret]

Beautiful

[near delta]

30k? It's 80-90k on my server for r1 lol

[nimble jasper]

fucked up server then

[near delta]

Yup dalaran na is dumb

[uneven turret]

Enchants are region-wide

[nimble jasper]

r1 writs should cost like 5k

[near delta]

Oh frozen devotion not writ

[nimble jasper]

oh cost me like 20k to get r2 frozen devo from a guildie

its rng to proc r3

[near delta]

That streamer luck

[nimble jasper]

the titan orbs for sophic are just a bitch

frozen devo is cheaper cuz its just awakened frost

[cinder thorn]

Why are people able to access their vault and mine still locked?

[uneven turret]

Makes things so awkard. Not only we have to pick crit vs Mastery for wep, we have to pick a enchant for Fury vs Arms.

[cinder thorn]

Is that NA players and EU later today ?

[nimble jasper]

it doesnt?

[cinder thorn]

Pvp vault

[nimble jasper]

same enchant is bis for both

[uneven turret]

Doesn’t fury use frozen devotion, and arms use sophic devotion?

[wheat jay]

Using your blizz connections eh?

[nimble jasper]

i mean you can sim

frozen devo is sus on classes with cc that breaks on damage

[heavy basin]

Will fury continue to be better than arms?
in pvp...

[uneven turret]

Oh didn’t think about that, u mean our fear? So sophic deovtion BIS for fury too?

[nimble jasper]

🤷‍♀️

[cinder thorn]

If sophic is on two weapons does it proc separately and add up to 1800?

[upbeat ice]

whats on jan 23rd

[rare ibex]

I chose tier helm as well. Wondering if there's an alternative to the infurious helm now?

[near delta]

How are those arms buffs feeling?

[brazen rock]

pretty good.

survive still sucks

but i fucking chunk people

[weary sky]

still low imo

[near delta]

I kinda want to go cow warrior like smexx lol

The crit damage increase and stomp could be pretty decent

[rare ibex]

LOL 120k for sophic devotion on my shard

[patent niche]

im so bad at the fury annihilator build lol

[near delta]

It's just spamming blood thirst?

[fossil mortar]

Is that even possible?

[brazen rock]

if you clear 3 debuffs with dark iron, and use badge

bruv.

[patent niche]

i need to spam rb

not bloodthirst

[heavy basin]

Will fury continue to be better than arms?

[patent niche]

feels good different

[near delta]

Just swap the keybinds

Bam you did itb

[rare ibex]

Nah replace RB with BT and replace BT with Rampage.. easy.

[short glacier]

What is RB?

[near delta]

Make a macro for blood thirst that uses raging blows icon lmao

[short glacier]

Raging blow duh

[patent niche]

truuuuuuuuu

[heavy basin]

Will fury continue to be better than arms?
In next update.......

[patent niche]

fury should always be better than arms 2 sword better than 1 ez

[lucid walrus]

we dunno yet

[rare ibex]

Like....... next update = 10.1? You want predictions?

[lucid walrus]

^^

[full quiver]

will arms ever be good again

[rare ibex]

Crystal ball says...... yes

[near delta]

I've been thinking about it lol

[rare ibex]

Magic 8-ball says "It is decidedly so."

[brazen rock]

also clearing full row of assa bleeds

is pretty goat.

[tribal wedge]

full assa clear + burst + spear + every fuckin thing, maybe 200k ms?

[heavy basin]

I can't decide between Fury and arms to do pvp
help

[lucid walrus]

try both

[heavy basin]

Is it a lot to the nerf that they are going to do to the fury?

Is the arms going to be better than the fury?

[near delta]

The nice thing about solo shuffle is you can easily test both in a low stakes rated environment

[lucid walrus]

bro we don’t know

[near delta]

No one really knows

[tribal wedge]

3 patch in a row that they buff arms and nerf fury, it's their plan

[near delta]

You're asking us to predict how the meta shapes up in the next month

If it's a big caster meta, fury will prob be better

And if it's a melee meta then arms will prob be better

[fossil mortar]

Fury Vs warlocks, mmm... free rating

Fury Vs Rdruid/Survhunter combo - dios mio I want to play!

Fury Vs a half decent rogue... RIP

[wheat jay]

Fury easy as survi

Just have to outfury them

[steep atlas]

what are fury's running with in 3s now

[fossil mortar]

DHs, good old demoncleave

[steep atlas]

does the DH provide the MS or the war?

[uneven turret]

Does DH have healing reduction?

[lucid walrus]

probably dh

[steep atlas]

yea

[lucid walrus]

yeah it’s on blade dance

[steep atlas]

they can talent out of it also

[uneven turret]

How much

[steep atlas]

25%

[lucid walrus]

25

[lean burrow]

dh's ms is on class tree

why did they change it

[steep atlas]

so the fury would talent out of slaughter is my guess

since the DH would overwrite his stacks

[uneven turret]

So sharpen blade is still technically the highest healing reduction in game

[steep atlas]

sharpen and psyfiend

both 50%

[sterile carbon]

If you want your hands to be claws when you're older and you enjoy the pain of carpal tunnel syndrome play fury.

[cinder thorn]

Wait, 50% after the pvp reduction or before

[crystal laurel]

didnt get weapon

i have no idea the conquest point carry over

we only get extra 500 zz

[nimble jasper]

this is cope

[lucid walrus]

after

[nimble jasper]

if you’re getting joint pain playing fury

fix your posture

[lucid walrus]

sharpen and psy have stayed 50

[steep atlas]

they're both 50 in pvp

[cinder thorn]

Is psyfiend also 6 sec only like sharpen

[uneven turret]

Tbh annihilator fury is alot easier to play than SL fury. Can’t really spam buttons as fast as you want.

[zenith marlin]

wait

hey are buffing every fkn Spri spell????

[steep atlas]

12 sec but you can kill it

[cinder thorn]

Yes time to de dust your SP

[zenith marlin]

they are buffing afflocks too lmfao

WHY

[cinder thorn]

I didn't even realise I thought it was there to tickle me

[thick reef]

did blizzard turn off the fucking dirt piles in azure span

[steep atlas]

haha nah if you see it you need to kill it asap

[cinder thorn]

How is this a pvp question

[thick reef]

cause its for the wpvp gear

so most likely people in here will be doing it

[cinder thorn]

Wait can you also explain mindgames and karma thing from the monk

If mind games hit you do damage to yourself right

Is monk karma similar

[zenith marlin]

lmao now warpaint

this is why i dont do wow pvp bruh

shit change too fast

[near delta]

Fury still has ridiculous sustain. I think they're trying to equalize spec survivability which is good.

[zenith marlin]

rite compare it with spri or warlock lmao

[nimble jasper]

monk karma just does a dot to you

if you hit into it

[weary sky]

fury remains king imo.

[nimble jasper]

mindgames just reverses dmg/healing

of the person its on

[cinder thorn]

I was pounding a lock in wpvp in the fact on top of a rock we both had nowhere to go

I beat on him for about 5mins before he died, kept face tanking me and almost killed me a couple times

These funking cloth wearers shouldn't be so durable in melee

We have to be in people face to do damage whilst they get best of both worlds

[nimble jasper]

thats just warlocks

[zenith marlin]

no spris too

[cinder thorn]

They can dps from max range and get no damage, and if they melee you they got same durability as melee

[zenith marlin]

the only other cloth is mage and we wont 1v1 a mage

not in this game

[nimble jasper]

some locks are dumb enough you can walk through their char model

and it stops the cast

[zenith marlin]

also beyond me how mages think blinking and timewarp etc is skilled play kekw

literally know how to play a mage just by fighting them

[flat dome]

Imagine if melee had half the mobility they do now. Casters would be untouchable.

[cinder thorn]

Dude some mages have good enough burst to kill us between the shield reflect pops

I respect mages

[nimble jasper]

you wont kill a good mage

[cinder thorn]

At least they have to kite and dodge you

[zenith marlin]

u wont hit a good mage

let alone kill xd

[nimble jasper]

only melee that prob can is feral

[cinder thorn]

But those fucking warlocks and priests

Don't respect those fuckers

[zenith marlin]

id rather play rock paper scissors than that y

anyway now both afflocks and spris hit more too xdxd

[brazen rock]

spriest burst got nerfed

survivability of both got nerfed.

[near delta]

They massively nerfed both of their survivability in this patch tho lol

[zenith marlin]

nice

didnt read big into it

fk em clothies

[vagrant sorrel]

I got the polarm (vers/mastery) in my vault. Do I take for Arms?

[near delta]

Mastery is good for arms so sure

[zenith marlin]

ye y not

[vagrant sorrel]

Ive heard the opposite

[zenith marlin]

1800 cp brother

u can replace later

[nimble jasper]

sp is like

huge gap between bad and good ones

imo

[zenith marlin]

idk their rotation but rly no class hard hard in wow

[near delta]

Things have changed with df and people haven't caught up yet

[zenith marlin]

rogues sometimes fk my brain

[nimble jasper]

its not the rotation

[weary sky]

DH outhealing fury lol

[nimble jasper]

its all the little things you can do as spriest

[zenith marlin]

i love dodging their silly pve horrify mechanic

always boggles their minds

[nimble jasper]

like watching good ones always know

when to go for pre mds

and shit

[zenith marlin]

I been to garrosh mythic bruh dodging ur lil balls is ez

[near delta]

The crazy shit prev could do last xpac when they didn't have anywhere near this much stuff

[nimble jasper]

yeah it plays a very support esque role

[zenith marlin]

do they still kill themselves with insanity?

[nimble jasper]

which alot of people fail at

[zenith marlin]

spri ret would be funny asf

in 2s

[nimble jasper]

ret also can play a support esque role but most rets are too dumb

to even sanc

[zenith marlin]

rets that bubble to anything xd

[nimble jasper]

SL made most ret brains into mush

conq banner wings oogabooga

me win

[scenic meteor]

when you forget to change to arms loot spec as fury

[zenith marlin]

press divine toll is win

[brazen rock]

[zenith marlin]

Bruh here i am waiting for my EU chest while yall link

[river jungle]

you guys putting frozen or sophic on your weapon enchant?

[zenith marlin]

ait jhova u are a. SMF player now

[calm plover]

Ret discord is so doom and gloom. How’s war life?

[scenic meteor]

has anyone played SMF - the talent path looks troll

[vagrant sorrel]

Think im taking the polearm 😄

[zenith marlin]

I got banned from ret discord

hammer of wrath or smth

[calm plover]

Lol

[zenith marlin]

ya bruh slap that polearm

1800 cp man

[brazen rock]

yeah take polearm.

mast is still good for arms

[lucid walrus]

i’d have an issue if you didn’t take 2h

[vagrant sorrel]

hahaha thanks guys

[zenith marlin]

they can change some BS and make mastery > crit next patch for all we know anyway xd

[calm plover]

Isn’t arms all bout that crit?

[wheat jay]

Everyone is getting a weapon wtf

[brazen rock]

i didnt.

[zenith marlin]

arms been all about smth else every patch ngl

[sterile carbon]

Wait what does loot spec impact vault?

[vagrant sorrel]

it is, I do think mast is good for arms my only reservation was i may be overweighted in it due to the crafted gear i Have.. the helm and boots are both mast items

[wheat jay]

Is this another NA bug that EU wont get?

[brazen rock]

? you wont get sheilds or 1handers as arms spec.

[wheat jay]

Should have tried harder i guess

[brazen rock]

only 2handers

[brazen rock]

skill issue clearly

[zenith marlin]

i goy 226 2H first chest of shadowlands S1 T^T

[vagrant sorrel]

correction, helm is crit, boots are mast

[brazen rock]

now your just 3 pieces of conq behind everyone that rnged into 1800 conq

[wheat jay]

Can't see any other explanation

[zenith marlin]

the raiders were so mad in my guild

[sterile carbon]

So should I set it to arms I guess

[brazen rock]

yes

[wheat jay]

I think there should either be guaranteed weapon 1st vault, or they should get removed from vault

[brazen rock]

i agree.

[wheat jay]

If you rolled weapon 1st vault you're GIGA ahead

[zenith marlin]

brother main stat is vers, and pretty sure rest is gameplay

if u rolled Staff 1st vault u end the patch

with dat 3k intellect

do we scale anything with weapon dmg anymore?

[vagrant sorrel]

What are you guys using your bloody token gear for? Any specific pieces

Thinking big items like chest/helm to save on conq

[zenith marlin]

makes sense

[weak swallow]

didnt even know that tier sets are a thing

but w/e

[undone pumice]

i put it on chest

[somber comet]

They’re not as op as SL

Thankfully

[undone pumice]

cause helm is alrdy crafted gear

[flat dome]

Man, arms slaps

[weak swallow]

yeah not a fan of executie build

[somber comet]

Neither am I but it is what it is

[buoyant seal]

is it best to go weapon week 2 for arms?

[somber comet]

None of the sets are exciting

“5% more crit wowzers”

[buoyant seal]

if so shoudl i get the token weap or go for conquest

[weak swallow]

im gonna be fw a new burst build

similar to bladestorm spear from SL

should work well with this set