Sad reality check for some people 
#pvp
wheat jay
thick reef
until theres a massive healer skill gap and all the dps go 3-3 and gain 0
vapid rover
True that show you good your individual lvl, and understanding of the game
vagrant sorrel
mild thunder
Sad reality check for some people <:keks:936231610850897992>
cant get reality checked if i blame my spec
thick reef
damn ive never gone past 30
sharp meteor
Sad reality check for some people <:keks:936231610850897992>
Honestly some lineups are rough.
dh, dk, assa, elemental
oh boy i wonder how this goes
thick reef
i seem to have the worst time when its 2 casters
regardless of arcane/ele/spriest/demo w.e
sharp meteor
ya get your ass beat into the ground by 2 meatheads each round
hunter in shuffle feels so delicate
sharp meteor
bro legit get dr fel eruptioned
undone pumice
be a bird
sharp meteor
and lose 70% of my health insta
wheat jay
Id like that
undone pumice
imagine if hunters n shit could use gnoblin gliders in like sewers, disengage from spawn pipe into goblin glider into aerial bombardment vietnam style
mild thunder
Honestly some lineups are rough.
every ss i've queued so far has had a fury, dh, affli or assa, usually 3 of the 4
undone pumice
u forgot sp
mild thunder
truu
sharp meteor
every ss i've queued so far has had a fury, dh, affli or assa, usually 3 of the ...
lmao wanna trade
i never wanna see shadow or demo again
mild thunder
i had a demo and affli in the same game
somehow the demo was bottom damage every round
sharp meteor
ya demo dmg isn't quite as throughput
thick reef
a prot warrior was in my game as a dps earlier
sharp meteor
but between control and ms they get people dead
thick reef
i didnt know that could happen
sharp meteor
getting in a bit of fun before the spec gets further whacked tomorrow
nimble jasper
i never wanna see shadow or demo again
queue solo shuffle
first game
double demo pres
sharp meteor
ya haven't queued into many duplicate stuff lately
i remember on launch it was like
double dh every game
thick reef
ew
mild thunder
arent there no duplicates anymore?
sharp meteor
very few
mild thunder
fury 💤
thick reef
mild thunder
worst part about this meta so far is all the top classes being omega boring to play
cinder thorn
No that's good
Let the meta chasers and fotm assholes suffer
cinder thorn
BROTHER THERE IS ONLY ONE TOP CLASS
Yes, DH the class of blizzards mums and girlfriends that they don't dare to nerf
nimble jasper
no thats warlocks
zenith marlin
leather classes literally wear skin on skin and pretend its real fkn armor
nimble jasper
rather queue into a dozen dh meleecleaves
whole condor
at what point are we swapping to Arms?
nimble jasper
than demo spriest
dark swift
When arms stops being squishy af
cinder thorn
Arms is only for gigachad players
zenith marlin
Remove all self heal from arms
BRING BACK ARMS
Damnit make us suffer
NO PAIN NO CR GAIN
cinder thorn
I remember when they first added impending victory
It was unheard of to self heal before then
People were raging
Suddenly everyone and their mothers got a self heal
wheat jay
Leveling shouldnt be hard
zenith marlin
I was 10 and didnt know english when I picked up my warrior
i loved shrek and had a big shrek toy that I hugged to sleep
wheat jay
Bajheera made me make a warrior
zenith marlin
that's how I made my orc warrior
wheat jay
He started it all
uneven turret
Fury is essentially 5% squishier after reset right?
thick reef
yerp
uneven turret
God damnit
wheat jay
Yes
mild thunder
yes 
wheat jay
Now dstance is 100% better than warpaint
uneven turret
We are not even OP at all, why the nerf
wheat jay
Cuz fury is fucking immortal
uneven turret
I like being immortal
mild thunder
fury has 10% perma mitigation and enraged regen is arguably the best wall in the game
and def stance
brazen rock
fury has 10% perma mitigation and enraged regen is arguably the best wall in the...
5% on tuesday.
brazen rock
with losing slaughterhouse, there really isn't any reason to bring/play fury over assa rogue or dh sadly
go arms 
unhinged + blademasters torment is funny shit
tawny river
so evokers can pull out teammates from spear of bastion
polar jetty
which is better currently? arms or fury?
thick reef
fury, tomorrow tbd?
tawny river
i am so glad they made another hero class
thick reef
crit gets reduced value in pvp
uneven turret
So arms vs fury survival wise, arms lose the 5% warpaint, and BT heal, thats about it ya?
And DBTS vs Enraged Regen
thick reef
fury u mean
mild thunder
5% on tuesday.
yeayea, was just justifying the nerf
lucid walrus
So arms vs fury survival wise, arms lose the 5% warpaint, and BT heal, thats abo...
nothing changes for arms beyond damage
flat dome
Fury is just a scuffed DH
brazen rock
dh got another round of nerfs?
uneven turret
mild thunder
nothingburger
green wyvern
dh channel?
lucid walrus
something tells me there was somebody delusional enough to protest the removal of blade dance iframes when those were a thing
fucking infuriating btw
thick reef
nooo my boss class is getting a tiny nerf reeee
nimble jasper
boss class is mage/lock
brazen rock
dh channel?
no the mens erectile dysfunction awareness channel
no shit the DH channel
thick reef
got em
lucid walrus
wtf
craggy socket
It's hardly a nerf
nimble jasper
spriest demo is the best comp in the game
uneven turret
also theres a dev there
In where? The DH discord? How u know
craggy socket
theyre getting nerfed too
green wyvern
In where? The DH discord? How u know
yeah
uneven turret
How do u know
nimble jasper
the bigger meme is the sin pvp nerf
you still gonna die in damp
through every cd
green wyvern
I know he was collecting feedback from dh discord when they were designing the talents
thick reef
It’s well known in the disc so that’s also how he knows
does each class just like have 1 person asigned to their balance
how do they do that
green wyvern
I mean you can find wow devs in twitch chat
uneven turret
Well shit, we need a warrior dev in here
green wyvern
in max's and cdew's for example
nimble jasper
wonder if they bothered fixing the unintended numbing poison bug
or are sin rogues just perma gonna run around debuffing everyone for -12% haste
lean burrow
warrior dev: do you want +1% damage on bloodthirst, or +1% damage on mortal strike?
nimble jasper
slap on the wrist nerfs tho
still gonna kill bad rdruids who have no hots
through all their cds
green wyvern
fury still super solid
thick reef
I don't use the term overreaction lightly but damn yall are right about that discord hahaha
nimble jasper
ran into the dumbest ww
sweeps me
spends 3 gcds doing nothing
instead of setting up kill
whole condor
elite weapon appearances should be 2100 again
whole condor
nah
sharp meteor
Elite is stacked this season.
sharp meteor
Don't worry, elite will be free.
brazen rock
whole condor
Don't worry, elite will be free.
based on what lol
it was 2100 in SL and no one said shit
sharp meteor
Most people didn't even know they existed in SL.
whole condor
it meant more ppl played as well
nimble jasper
not everything has to be a freebie
sharp meteor
Game needed a reward at 2700 tho not 2400
thick reef
most likely more casuals will goto shuffle compressing 3v3 ratings and making 2400 harder?
sharp meteor
Already have glad, the mog, tabard, etc, at elite
thick reef
relative to before
whole condor
@nimble jasper 2100 isn't free dude
nimble jasper
uhh….
whole condor
go look up % that get 2100
nimble jasper
lol
whole condor
and come back
sharp meteor
Ahahaha
whole condor
solo shuffle has 35 min queues
thick reef
it varies tbh
sharp meteor
ya imagine healing the rejects
thick reef
sometimes its 10 sometimes its 30
nimble jasper
people thought solo shuffle would work
but what good healer
wants to heal dps who cant find q’s
nimble jasper
i mean its true why would yoy want to heal
the bonehead melee
who divebomb out of los
then ask why hardstuck
sharp meteor
so the thing with healers is that they have the option of grabbing somebody off tag
who are likely good and/or fun
or languish in shuffle
with the people who don't have any healers
thick reef
maybe its something to do when teammates arent on
nimble jasper
💀
thick reef
really not that serious lol dont be a werido mate
nimble jasper
i mean thats just the reason shuffle has long q’s
for dps
who tf wants to heal bad dps
thick reef
maybe thats the key to unlocking the next level of skill
learn to carry shitters to glory
idk /s
thick reef
you can control what you can control 🤷♂️
nimble jasper
i waited 30mins for a q once
sweet solstice
how do you stay alive as fury in 3's?: )
thick reef
atleast that shit will be punished eventually
whole condor
I'm not enjoying solo shuffle. I think good idea, not good in reality.
nimble jasper
theres no incentive
sweet solstice
i think its fine if not for the 30 min sq
sweet solstice
so far i dont rly understand how to survive as fury in SoloQ
sweet solstice
i get smacked by any non casters
nimble jasper
doesnt mean its fun
thick reef
rofl
sweet solstice
DH's just eat me alive
thick reef
thats normal brother
sweet solstice
idk i rly hate fury in pvp after they removed freedom
i cant even kite
i just die to any evasion or disarm
nimble jasper
dwarf lul
thick reef
its what i made in 2005 when i was 14
its what i am
only alliancae race that looks good in plate anyway
nimble jasper
i mean my og main
thick reef
and my mog is clean asf
nimble jasper
has gone through like 6 race changes
sweet solstice
the nerf on def stance seems prty awfull
thick reef
i turned him to an orc for the sake of raiding before but ive changed back awhile ago
thick reef
just cause alliance raiding scene 
sweet solstice
what u mean barely maters?
drowsy wasp
u guys making the 424 helm?
nimble jasper
💀
nimble jasper
on racials
sweet solstice
btw do mages exist anymore?
nimble jasper
yes
thick reef
i hope not
brittle swift
what build people run for arms i wanna give it a go
sharp meteor
what u mean barely maters?
Doesn't really matter until high glad to r1 range.
thick reef
theres a build in the pins if you scroll down
sweet solstice
idk that sounds like cope to me
idk how u can say 20% dmg reduce dosent matere since now its 10%
thick reef
i think hes talking about racials in that
sharp meteor
Yep.
brittle swift
theres a build in the pins if you scroll down
thats a pre patch build
thick reef
oh my b
sweet solstice
i never said anything about racials xD
brittle swift
ur good
nimble jasper
dstance 20/20 was dumb
thick reef
he was responding to me
sharp meteor
Could be 10/10
sweet solstice
i think 20 20 was fine
nimble jasper
pov warrior players who sit d perma all game
sweet solstice
hell make it 20 30 for all i care
nimble jasper
cuz no awareness
sweet solstice
i just want to not die to any melee in the game
nimble jasper
hello sinful season
nimble jasper
i just want to not die to any melee in the game
dbts
sweet solstice
i cant see it in my fury talent tree : )
nimble jasper
idk wow pvp
queueing into demo sp
makes me want to uninstall
meleecleave is fine
sweet solstice
na no way
id rather go into casters anytime
they cant disarm me or evade 🙂
ur even allowed to los them
sweet solstice
also idk what to say about the anihilator build in soloQ
thick reef
/spit
lucky for me thats my fetish
im with him tho id rather play against other mele than casters
shit is not a good time bro
sweet solstice
its not like added healing actually maters
sweet solstice
ye dont rly understand this blizzard fetish with warlock tanks
nimble jasper
because warlock playerbase cries
that they’re squishy otherwise
despite they had 3 ways to cross the map in SL
and a 50% perma slow
sweet solstice
ye afli rdruid was kinda disgusting
nimble jasper
i guess if the other team is a sinful season condemn turbo
they have a point
otherwise fk off
its really imo same as mage players where the bad ones hide how good class is
short geyser
How do I into PvP now, been a while. Is it long to gear up? Do I just spam solo shuffle?
wheat crane
In fairness its tough playing warlock vs warrior and mele cleaves
If they werent this tanky theyd just be free cr
sweet solstice
its easy to gear up now
short spire
anyone else experiencing rating unchanged in pvp...its been like this for several matches now... ive 3 back to back matches - 18 rounds and all 3 gave me rating unchanged with 4-2 every match.
thick reef
way she goes ive seen a 6 win get 0
verbal pine
Purely a guess but could be low queues in your rating range so you end up against lower opponents so instead of you getting free points or fucked by bad teammates you just walk away with no change
short spire
i went 3 matches not bump up and then was low wins on one and then lost 62... seems fair
im right at 1500
sweet solstice
it means ur mmr is not that great
brittle swift
for arms is it vers>crit>mast?
short spire
Whelp that sucks
brazen rock
for arms is it vers>crit>mast?
you want about 12% haste min
for an extra gcd in smash
brittle swift
gotch
brazen rock
also spec feels like shit with 0 haste
brittle swift
am feeling a little rage starved at times
but hit someone with a 130k ms
felt nice
not sure if that build is the move but feels decent
whole condor
amp curse for 18 sec sucks
elfin surge
arms is back
whole condor
y
short spire
better than fury?
flat dome
So like, how many knockbacks do ele shamans have lol
drowsy wasp
ive lost every single game when there is a demo lock
demo is insane
demo/dk, demo/spriest, demo/ele
if there is a demo, i lose
brittle swift
demo is to tanky right now
thick reef
Arcane shadow dh is a fun combo
sweet solstice
so far solo q's feel like the pve of pvp
whole condor
arcane mage boils my blood
thick reef
arms is back
Lfg
brittle swift
woah so you have diff solo q ratings based on spec?
thick reef
Mostly just relevant to giving out crimson legend title
drowsy wasp
Most of the time when I sit ele or spriest or demo
I feel their hp bar don’t even move
bright stream
could yall sweats stop climbing, I'm meant to be working and not queueing
distant raptor
How do I deal with DH in arena?
distant raptor
Do you have patch notes?
thick reef
overreaction andys
brittle swift
can anyone send me a bladestorm cancel macro
wheat crane
/cancelaura bladestorm
brittle swift
so /cast bladestorm
flat dome
if there is a demo, i lose
If there is a lock, I lose lol
brittle swift
and then cancel?
whole condor
cant cancel anymore
whole condor
news to me
lucid walrus
you must be taking hurricane
sweet solstice
you can cancel
gentle horizon
can u afk while waiting for solo q?
buffs and nerfs oof
so uh
is this still a net positive for fury?
Warpaint now reduces damage taken by 5% (was 10%) while enraged in PvP combat Vs (2) Set Bonus: Execute critical hit chance bonus increased to 25% (was 10%).
onyx vale
no it's not cuz execute fucking sucks as fury
perma 5% damage reduction is worth 50 times that set bonus
near delta
arms is back
Really???
mild thunder
arms is back
fickle forge
cant cancel anymore
Only if you pick signet
thick reef
bruh this fucker in open world dced me with mind control lmao
near delta
thick reef
just got hacked
near delta
mild thunder
gigachads, every single one of them
glad pagoda
is 105vers on the 2set worth having?
mild thunder
what do you mean?
fast bison
Best 2s comp with fury warrior?
thick reef
is 105vers on the 2set worth having?
It doesn't work in arena
gentle horizon
It doesn't work in arena
Including solo?
thick reef
Yea
flat dome
lol, if you kill a priest, they go into spirit and don't lose the match
glad pagoda
u need to wait for spirit
thick reef
Isn't that intended
glad pagoda
yes
gentle horizon
So is arms better now
thick reef
Mud said yes
glad pagoda
damage is better but its harder to play
mild thunder
your brain needs to know how to use >2 dps buttons
so tread carefully
not for the fainthearted
thick reef
Gigachad
drowsy wasp
You guys were correct
Caster cleave is owning
I feel useless against caster cleave, they are so tanky and do insane dmg
warped warren
Btw who is mud
some random noname 
thick reef
fury ww unholy ret with holy/disc priest healers in shuffle is hilarious
bruh gladiatorlossa wont save settings this is mad aggravating
stuck karma
The fix is to not play gladiatorlossa
glad pagoda
only took 600 rounds
fickle forge
Grats dude
toxic latch
is crit or mastery better for pieces that dont have haste?
fickle forge
600 rounds and 3000 hours in Q?
glad pagoda
yes haha
toxic latch
only took 600 rounds
good job
fickle forge
Time to go for 2100 next 😎👍
glad pagoda
i was not using disarm at all then i started using it and i climbed
fickle forge
Fury warrior?
thick reef
The fix is to not play gladiatorlossa
i only use it for a few things dont hate on my crutch 
glad pagoda
yes
toxic latch
sorry if its been asked a million times but what stat %s should i aim for?
thick reef
haste vers then mast then crit
sweet solstice
any of you have some lifehack tips for cimbing in solo Q?
cinder lake
Havoc upcoming nerfs seems like a christams gift lol 🍬
toxic latch
haste vers then mast then crit
ty so mastery on head and gloves right?
i got haste on everything else
toxic latch
sweet ty
sweet solstice
pvp looks in kindof a garbage state
lucid walrus
how’s that?
sweet solstice
im dying to backpeddaling demo warlocks
brazen night
Are the crafted pvp pieces worth it? For the embellishments?
white briar
any of you have some lifehack tips for cimbing in solo Q?
For Arms, most people don't realise the stupid burst you have so you can land kills that way. They do realise how pathetically weak you are defensively though, so gotta find creative ways of staying alive. Not enough defensive CDs to just trade so gotta kite and trade utility. Some games you just feel like a kid trying to wrestle his dad.
For Fury, hit 123.
thick reef
lol
sweet solstice
nice but my issue isint staying alive or doing damage
im not new at all : )
its getting completely recked by melee cleaves on fury and casters on arms xD
anything with a disarm or evasion looks dire
and vs demo locks i feel like i need to afk 24/7 behinde pillars
lucid walrus
reminding your teammate not to eat the entirety of a legion dungeon when a demo pops burst is a good call
killing them is another matter entirely
white briar
I guess it depends what you mean by climbing. I'm 2.1 as arms, I don't have any tips for getting higher than that.
slender lion
For Arms, most people don't realise the stupid burst you have so you can land ki...
For this, I still feel weak as fury. Or I'm just getting trained...not played alot of fury tbh but I get stun locked and targeted it's insane. My dk guildie lives forever in comparison
white briar
Double caster feels awful as arms, but shuffle is mostly a melee zugfiesta
spice hornet
healer is doing 18.5k hps btw
nimble jasper
healer is doing 18.5k hps btw
spice hornet
lmao
at least they can only do that so often and have to get stormkeeper off
MW monk doing nearly the same dps as his assassiantion rogue partner
nothing you can do to stop it
warped warren
healer is doing 18.5k hps btw
just do more damaj?
nimble jasper
deathmark nerf is a slap on the wrist
when the initial garrotes from stealth can tick 18-20k anyway
spice hornet
when the initial garrotes from stealth can tick 18-20k anyway
just got hit for a 27k tick
spice hornet
yuo
nimble jasper
idk
i clowned every rogue mirror
mf healer gets kicked like a soccer ball
also watching fotm idiots not know how to rot 2 players at once
@spice hornet funniest thing was watching a dh try to panic kite at 20%
with full dots on him
and just dies to them
spice hornet
you know hes saying assass is bullshit man fuck that spec takes no skill
nimble jasper
he blurred piss
LOL
its a pretty braindead spec but i swear
the class has so much you can do cuz toolkit is overloaded
im just trying to get my tmog mang
pearl prism
my wife bangs nothing but rogues now. she makes me clean the house and watch
copper hare
They play in like 2030 while we are still stuck in 2010
nimble jasper
actually curious if the numbing nerf
fixes the unintended bug
where its affecting people’s haste
copper hare
My fav, rogue used evasion, disarm and kidney at the same global, still almost globaled me
nimble jasper
My fav, rogue used evasion, disarm and kidney at the same global, still almost g...
i had a guy duel me earlier
and i killed him in his own
fickle forge
My fav is rogues trying to cloak spear, when they don't realise they can Evas it instead now
spice hornet
pearl chasm
would you suggest fury or arms for a beginner in pvp ?
spice hornet
furry
pearl chasm
the icy veins fury pvp guide is fine ?
fickle forge
Perhaps
warm kiln
Hi. I have quite a silly question but maybe someone can answer me. How often and useful is it to use Taunt in PvP? And if so, why is that?
pearl chasm
i think taunt is doing nothing in pvp ?
hot solstice
Hi. I have quite a silly question but maybe someone can answer me. How often and...
U can pre taunt some pets to break incoming cc on u
fickle forge
Hi. I have quite a silly question but maybe someone can answer me. How often and...
To keep stealthers in combat and get pets on you
warm kiln
To keep stealthers in combat and get pets on you
❤️ really appreciate
warm kiln
U can pre taunt some pets to break incoming cc on u
❤️ really appreciate
sharp meteor
i think taunt is doing nothing in pvp ?
off global ranged way to tag somebody
near delta
the icy veins fury pvp guide is fine ?
Kargish over here is the writer lol
warped warren
My fav is rogues trying to cloak spear, when they don't realise they can Evas it...
huh
thick reef
Smexxin out here making arms look insane
gusty wing
U can pre taunt some pets to break incoming cc on u
Seen pally healer's do this a couple of times when I was playing hunter, always impressive
neat hound
Wtf they can do that before the initial AoE dmg that binds them or afterwards?
fickle forge
Yeah Idk, Spear is unique for some reason
lucid walrus
i guess bc spear has to hit you to do the periodic damage
if i'm reading this right
onyx vale
my theory is that it's cuz if rogues don't have a counter for every spell in the game rogue players start crying, that's why they got cloak of skill in tbc, also why overpower sucks now
no i think he was talking about why rogues are able to dodge an aoe with it, in my knowledge its the only dodgeable aoe in the game
sorry, had to get all that rogue hatred out of my system 
azure patio
I hate sub rogue and Secret Technique especially
I want ability that summons Valarjars that charges
and then executes enemies
flat dome
assas is so dumb
each dot ticking for 10k each
Actually, all rogue specs are dumb asf
lucid walrus
my least favorite part is that i can't identify its healing style
it doesn't have strong burst healing /or/ strong sustain, it has both
azure patio
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/873944893800714290/878335506059001856/u...
I think this picture is very fitting to this execute damage
copper hare
my least favorite part is that i can't identify its healing style
there is no healing style, just a lot of instants that all insta top to 100% hp
flat dome
What is it that makes rogues able to dodge without evasion?
scarlet barn
im dying to backpeddaling demo warlocks
Def highlight of the day
fickle forge
I'm starting to forget what the casting bar looks like
flat dome
Casters cast?
onyx vale
dh casts
neat hound
Shattering throw
flint grove
so i see theres diff types of the same pvp gear on the vendor. Ive checked pins for stat priority, but is there an optimal loadout there
hot solstice
Am I the only one who thinks arms damage is noodle weak outside cds?
Can’t even one tap low hp with executes cause it hits for 20k(40k crits)
It gets even worse vs ferals…the bastard is laughing of the damage while sitting in bear form on <35%
left scarab
It gets even worse vs ferals…the bastard is laughing of the damage while sitting...
worldpvp honor talents... what u think.. battle trance, warbringer, bloodrage?
lucid walrus
Am I the only one who thinks arms damage is noodle weak outside cds?
it kind of is. luckily you’re rarely outside of cds bc of anger management, think that’s the saving grace — a generous one at that
sharp meteor
No Preservation nerfs.
warped warren
no dstance buffs
hot solstice
I guess the one the removes initial root from charge with warbringer
steep inlet
no, the one who make you charge at the ancient location of the guy
ok they gonna fix it they say
nice
formal creek
Nice to hear
bright stream
lol why does every ss game start with the healer suggesting a bad target?
short sable
lol why does every ss game start with the healer suggesting a bad target?
Le sabotage
devout ferry
new here, planning to level a warrior with my DF boost.. are people still rocking human, or can gnome be a good option for all nova, root etc?
proven maple
Definitely lost a match to a hunter who jumped my charge earlier today. Would have finished him. Incredibly tilting how often charge root doesn’t do shit
If they fix that. It’s a buff to us
bright stream
new here, planning to level a warrior with my DF boost.. are people still rockin...
dwarf/irondwarf/human, gnome meh tier
proven maple
Cuz right now charge misses too often
hot solstice
it kind of is. luckily you’re rarely outside of cds bc of anger management, thin...
still if u put fury and arms on a pvp dummy difference in overall dps is like 20-25%
copper hare
Definitely lost a match to a hunter who jumped my charge earlier today. Would ha...
yeah, you have to make sure that you don't waste your charges/piercing howl when he has masters call ready
undone pumice
no, the one who make you charge at the ancient location of the guy
u mean where u start running laps like its pe class?
hot solstice
no, the one who make you charge at the ancient location of the guy
Its warbringer bug...works fine without talent
viscid bluff
is Proving Solo a weekly quest?
cinder thorn
Does bladestorm unhinged arms build do 2 MS each tick or 2 MS per bladestorm cast
Also, if you cast sharpen blade before BS does it apply to those MS hits or only the ones you hard cast
warped warren
yeah
mystic barn
@raw summit noob
raw summit
😭 xenophobe 😭
mystic barn
tick tick tick
raw summit
Bullied by a DK how did i sink this low...
undone pumice
Does bladestorm unhinged arms build do 2 MS each tick or 2 MS per bladestorm cas...
per cast wtf imagine getting pwned by like 12 mortal strikes in 1 bladestorm
sterile carbon
how do you get sparks of life, it's kills and doing world quests in azure right?
undone pumice
world quests and pvp in azurespan
vapid rover
2 ms per tics xD
When actualy 2 ms per bladestorm hit hard, i cant imagine
sharp meteor
Does bladestorm unhinged arms build do 2 MS each tick or 2 MS per bladestorm cas...
Haven't played it recently but in SL the Unhinged Mortal Strikes were effectively cast from you.
If you had sharpen up then bladestormed it'd consume it when the first ms went off, and apply it
similar with overpower, etc
cinder thorn
If you had sharpen up then bladestormed it'd consume it when the first ms went o...
Ah OK thx so it still applies once not twice on BS
sharp meteor
basically they were as if you casted them
which made it make sense to sweep prior to storm
cinder thorn
But would you save storm till sweep is up or not worth it
vapid rover
Reported the charge bug in blizz disc server
Really that was a bug ??? I never reported that because this mechanic exist in LoL and Riot say « its legit my man » so i thinked same for wow…
vapid rover
But would you save storm till sweep is up or not worth it
Its worth it
Its 2 MS cleave + BS this talent + sweep, cleave hard
undone pumice
what the fuck are you saying
warped warren
sharp meteor
silk flicker
pearl prism
Do I need to get some conquest before reset? or is it full catchup mechanic?
Ive been on a break this week
pearl prism
true that
tender tangle
i feel stuck at 1800 as arms in solo shuffle, any tips? i feel like even if i win 4/6 i get little to no rating, but if i lose 4/6 i drop like 60 +
nova wadi
i feel stuck at 1800 as arms in solo shuffle, any tips? i feel like even if i...
reroll fury
nah jk, rating in general seems pretty fucked and dependant on other people in your lobby
bright stream
i feel stuck at 1800 as arms in solo shuffle, any tips? i feel like even if i...
pick better targets - watch your positioning, use dstance when you're not doing big dam
thick reef
The only way the matchmaking will get better is if it gets a big injection of healers
thorn lichen
Is there such a place like a LF a warr in EU for monk+warr heal and get easy glad?
tiny dagger
Is the cobalt assembly ring worth using over pvp rings
elfin surge
Is the cobalt assembly ring worth using over pvp rings
no
left scarab
is there an arena food you can use? where do i buy it
scarlet barn
you can only use normal food like from vendor / innkeeper
No special food though afaik
left scarab
ok ty
sterile carbon
im newish to pvp, is there any benefit to gettign rating in 2v2, solo, 3v3 etc? do you get more rewards if you get rating in more of them?
raw summit
3v3 can get you gladiator the other 2 cant
but if you are new they are basically the same in rewards
iron basalt
Is Arms back today?
green wyvern
probably not
copper hare
arms back to the trash can
cinder lake
HAHAH
elfin surge
arms is back
sly walrus
sly walrus
No arms
delicate ginkgo
no pinned spec for arms. what do I play as talents SMILE
mystic barn
arms is never coming back
undone pumice
this good mby
mystic barn
worst talent tree I’ve seen
undone pumice
u smell like farts
mystic barn
good day
proud breach
fury still the way to go after today maintence?
warped warren
yeah
proud breach
thanks
copper hare
Maybe they should start buffing bladestorm until it's stronger than a fucking demon locks pet
delicate ginkgo
should give arms a passive 20% damage reduction. and make mortal strike do 50% DR on healing all the time SMILERS
undone pumice
shut up gnome
undone pumice
true and real
delicate ginkgo
elfin surge
And harmstring off gcd
undone pumice
hamstring off gcd and aurabuff mortal strike until getting hit once by it gives you ebola
delicate ginkgo
While we are at it. sweeping strikes of gcd. and make it also cleave bladestorm attacks SMILERS
deep meadow
Being bad at Fury war really has made me question the world and my place in it
any streamers i can follow that can help me reclaim my self-worth?
pearl prism
As fun as arms is, fury right now is just way too zug zug easy mode
raw summit
While we are at it. sweeping strikes of gcd. and make it also cleave bladestorm ...
It cleaves the ms from unhinged
Fwiw
cinder lake
Arms is back!!I tested him in PTR..Used all abilites and everything in mobs they were dying way faster although i was dying every 2-3 mobs.
pearl prism
is fury getting any more nerfs after reset today?
tribal wedge
green wyvern
assuming arms doesn't get damage nerfs in 10.0.5 it will be insane with the talent changes
zenith marlin
Told my DH partner that I am low gear and will keep the highest hp Ret on CC
mf waited for my 3 saps to run out to engage the other ret
pearl prism
This is the mage discord
green wyvern
just making modifiers to overpower affect dreadnaught is a huge deal
raw summit
?
fossil mortar
Sweeping the unhinged still a thing?
green wyvern
yes
crystal laurel
i tried blade storm, i find the other path still better
zenith marlin
if u dont take bladestorm
idk what u do in pvp
the cleave the deepwounds spread the everythingl mao
what do u take fatality?
crystal laurel
yea
zenith marlin
u do know its nerfed like heck in pvp
crystal laurel
i find it to be better at single target still
zenith marlin
but pvp isnt single target
if it is, its a duel
and arms isnt winning any duels
even the bleed build has bladestorm
so u can ez apply deepwounds to everyone
and i think mortal whatever too
with pvp talent
I wish they didnt nerf fatality rly
Monks can just ToD kekw
so what if arms has it at 30%
It needs setup + half the classes can remove the debuff
copper hare
If ToD just wasn't bugged for 2 expansions already
zenith marlin
and tbf if ur enemy isn't aware of the MASSIVE fatality debuff with 10 stacks on it and does nothing
They deserve to get one shot at 30%
i mean execute one shot ppl at 30% for several expansions xd
the joy of double tap condemn on ppl in shadowlands T^T
pallid void
So if we don’t get a weap in our vault you guys just gunna go with world pvp weap and gear out with conquer armor or still spend it all for another 3 ilvls?
pallid void
Yeah, weaps still important
pallid void
I’m just gunna pray I get it in the vault so I do t feel behind for a week 🙂 lol
crystal laurel
you can get conquest wep from vault?
pallid void
I thought so
crystal laurel
thought you only get pve gear from vault
crystal laurel
yea i know but i didnt know you get pvp gear there
im maxed there so just waiting now
pallid void
Even though hear does matter as much people who get a conq weapon in their vault will be slightly ahead of everyone else in terms of power
Gear*
undone pumice
gearing is so ez now tho
pallid void
Oh and everyone make sure to change to arms spec before opening vault so you don’t get 1h options
undone pumice
drop 20k for bis crafted items, play a bunch of bgs for honor and spam whatever rated uw ant or collect from wardrops for conq
crystal laurel
yeah its ez, but saying that someone with 5 piece of conquest vs full honor is not advantage is false
pallid void
Pretty sure fury can get pvp 1h in vault and that would suck lol
crystal laurel
5 piece of conquest is still advantage
undone pumice
Pretty sure fury can get pvp 1h in vault and that would suck lol
lootspec arms
pallid void
Yeah
undone pumice
since 9.0
pallid void
I always stay arms spec now
pallid void
No I mean if you are fury loot spec you can get 1hers in your vault
crystal laurel
that would suc
brazen rock
whos ready for the influx of "wHaT dO i PiCk fRoM VaUlT GuYsSS???" followed by a photo of vault being 1 wep, ring and a medallion?
undone pumice
where unity?
brazen rock
tbh i prefer anything over "how do i play fury"
pearl prism
I just got thunderfury blessed b lade of the windwalker in vault
crimson sentinel
are you guys saving for 2h this week from conq and the trophy of strife 2h as well?
leaden lynx
Yus
crystal laurel
yup
brazen rock
are you guys saving for 2h this week from conq and the trophy of strife 2h as we...
if you intend to play fury, this is the move
crimson sentinel
thanks boys
spice hornet
where unity?
Which power for unity
crimson sentinel
do we still feel like fury will outshine arms after the updates?
steep inlet
if u think about it
spice hornet
Fatality sucks
brazen rock
^
brazen rock
do we still feel like fury will outshine arms after the updates?
im playing arms regardless.
spice hornet
crimson sentinel
I feel like a lot of people are bored of fury
crimson sentinel
but still think fury is strong
brazen rock
bored to the tits and 130k MS crits make pp hard
steep inlet
y
steep inlet
y
spice hornet
Don’t you play prot? @steep inlet
leaden lynx
our lord and savior mud says arms is back, rejoice brethren!
steep inlet
i do, but im arms since 10+ years
and did my glad as arms
i will never stop arms
and prot took 6 nerfs in 2 weeks :(
pallid void
Arms will be a lot better in twos and threes but unsure if it will shine in Soloq without def buffs
undone pumice
or sudden death fuck fatality stacks ?
thats not how it works
fatality applies stacks if enemy is above 30%
and your executes to enemies BELOW 30% use fatality stacks
brazen rock
as worded i think if they drop below 30% at all, it activates fatality to buff ur next execute
steep inlet
ah, i didnt test it yet, seems cool
steep inlet
i tried some arenas with it
and exec crited for 70k + 30 k from fatality
from what i remember
steep inlet
lal
brazen rock
more actually
undone pumice
my biggest hit was on a rogue with like 68k exe + 100k fatality
brazen rock
forgot 3% aura
copper hare
but then you get to a certain mmr and only face assa prevoker
undone pumice
at even liek 5 stacks of fatality its 100k+
brazen rock
but then you get to a certain mmr and only face assa prevoker
yeah can we not talk about that
copper hare
and you'll start questioning your existance
brazen rock
fuck scalies and fuck assa rogue
undone pumice
every solo shuffle when im vsing a prevoker i go afk and say" idcd pls no report"
steep inlet
EU here :p
brazen rock
the talent rework is the real juice
steep inlet
but i think prot will still be ok
brazen rock
coming in 10.0.5
steep inlet
dunno
kindred viper
solo atm is 20min queue only to find myself the only one with rating meaning i lose no matter what
ppl getting games in last minute i guess, but it's screwed me
leaden lynx
you mean 2.45 hours 😉
you mean 3.66 hours 🙃
undone pumice
the talent rework is the real juice
which
compact reef
Any beginner tips for fury in solo shuffle? Feel like I hit like a wet noodle but I'm super bad 😄
compact reef
Oh nice will check that out
scarlet barn
Hmm
stuck karma
Hmm
brazen rock
which
10.0.5 arms talent rework. Def stance baseline (+1 talent point in general tree), Sweeping strikes baseline (+1 talent in arms tree), and another talent reduced from 2/2 to 1/1, so another +1 talent in arms tree.
can play battlelord MS spam ontop of SKS bleed build for just mongo damage. Or drop sks for unhinged + fatality.
the sweeping strikes talent gets replaced with improved sweeping strikes, which adds 5 seconds to the duration of sweeping strikes. So if sweeping strikes remains unchanged, we could run with 20 second duration sweeping strikes. Pretty gud into melee cleave
scarlet barn
https://www.twitch.tv/mudcx/clip/DifficultOptimisticTarsierKappaPride-GLU32_Hghw...
In that clip , he could ahve skipped BT and go right with Reck+avatar
And would be enraged
sterile carbon
with the great vault thing, with the 1st, 2nd and 3rd, you're basically unlocking more choice right? as opposed to just one slot? new to this stuff
brazen rock
with the great vault thing, with the 1st, 2nd and 3rd, you're basically unlockin...
just more choices.
you only get to pick 1 item from the entire vault.
leaden lynx
does the odyns fury that is cast from activating avatar get the benefit of enraged if you aren't currently enraged?
brazen rock
does the odyns fury that is cast from activating avatar get the benefit of enrag...
yes
scarlet barn
does the odyns fury that is cast from activating avatar get the benefit of enrag...
Yes
sterile carbon
you only get to pick 1 item from the entire vault.
oh wtf really? I thought I could pick one from the PVP one, and one from the Mythic one. Damn.
leaden lynx
neat
scarlet barn
Thats the point of me including screenshots
copper hare
oh wtf really? I thought I could pick one from the PVP one, and one from the Myt...
This is how it should be. It's really annoying when you play both pve and pvp
scarlet barn
Cause clearly in that clip, Mud is talented into those
sterile carbon
This is how it should be. It's really annoying when you play both pve and pvp
ye doesn't make sense. I'm primarily PVP but like to dabble in mythic stuff, sucks
copper hare
Was always a mind fuck when you got conquest weapon and mythic + weapon in vault first week
arctic rampart
pvp is already really easy to gear for
brazen rock
easy, but timegated.
i can farm m+ forever for gear
only get so much conq in a week.
arctic rampart
timegated with conquest cap catchup
this way if you come into pvp 2 weeks late you aren't playing against full conquest, it's better for overall pvp participation this way
brazen rock
well yes catchup is good.
sterile carbon
PVP gearing is definitely better yes
brazen rock
its still timegated, which is why if you play all content, probably best to pick a pvp piece over a pve piece.
arctic rampart
also they still want you to have a gear progression feel in pvp, to keep you interested
sterile carbon
especially with solo shuffle. feels hard not to climb in it
brazen rock
unless that pve piece is a BIS trinket from raid.
i already know ill get offstat bracers, a ring, and medallion as pvp choices so im not too worried
arctic rampart
im getting a 2hander
copper hare
Timegating pvp gear is the best thing you can do. They tried it in the end of SL with uncapping conquest and it was awful. People without jobs playing in the morning and when you come home you play vs 30 more ilvl humans
brazen rock
link it here so you can star in the next liam neeson film.
arctic rampart
if they didn't timegate, they would have to do full ilevel normalization in pvp
this is the compromise
thick reef
I hope everyone's first box of expac gets blessed with the fattiest of 2hers
brazen rock
spice hornet
anyone else ready to smash their monitor when they open their box and get to pick between 1 ring and 2 trinkets
brazen rock
first vault shouldnt even have those as options tbh
spice hornet
yeah its really lame
brazen rock
i wanna cope and say thats another reason this last week felt badish
every DH, rogue, caster, had a MH wep
drowsy wasp
So mortal strike is 50% MS, and sharpen blade make it 75%?
brazen rock
So mortal strike is 50% MS, and sharpen blade make it 75%?
25/50 in pvp iirc.
worthy fern
Nerfed in pvp
drowsy wasp
Oh
scenic maple
^ in PvP its 25% > 50%
quaint snow
should we change loot to arms or doenst matter?? (im fury)
drowsy wasp
Yeah was reading tooltip
brazen rock
should we change loot to arms or doenst matter?? (im fury)
arms
worthy fern
@quaint snow always arms
brazen rock
fury can get 1handers
drowsy wasp
Eww
quaint snow
need to change ASAP
worthy fern
Should put out an announcement or something lol
viscid horizon
whoops
muted surge
Wep from vault is huge