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No.
is the difference between frozen devotion and frozen writ big
my rogue friend said frozen devotion isnt worth a wank
some here have said its good tho 🤷♀️
My poor Priest got blown up the other day and I checked the dmg of the enemy cleave and 11 and 14% of their dmg was frozen devo.
anyone have a good intervene macro for solo shuffle so i cant have to try and use mouse over or doing party 1 and 2
I dun wanna pay 200k for chants.
party 12 then something to show which is each
or sortgroup maybe
yeah thats what i was trying to avoid, i heard Mud had a macro that automatically detects healers and dps so its always the same bind for healer vs dps
not sure if that is true tho
@magic bolt
epic
Deepak the big brain macrk master
would you say crit = mastery? and if not, is there a point where crit becomes less useful?
for Unhinged it's for sure Crit > mastery for Spear synergy and burst potential. Mastery pulls ahead for Skullsplitter or normal bleed builds.
Could that get pinned? Had a few people dm me after.
@knotty atlas pls
yo how do you disable blizzards debuffs on enemy nameplate i only want my addons to do things like that
@knotty atlas pin that pls
You guys really need more organised PINS.
Instead of random macros.
"Below you can find the macros for .......................................:
Insert Macros here"
Yea idk i wish we had someone todo that!
Nyo
what do they do?
does PVP not have a dedicated mod anymore for stuff like that?
No, you're stuck with me.
Ha, you would like to know!
PvP people got too wild.
yeah that doesn't surprise me.
i would
how often are you guys getting boxes from arena wins
Every 4th win, isnt it?
Yo guys what is the best talents for fury pvp
havoc
Eyo is it possible to combine this to 1 macro with key modifiers? 🤔
Hmmm. I think you'd have to use something like macro toolkit
It has keybind only macros
Ohhhh'
I see what you mean
I think?
Yah you get right
Dps for unmodified and healer for mod:shift, for an example
Oh yeah that's easy
So I can just hold shift and execute the healer sequence on the same button
So all this does is set the macros
Well change them
You put the macros their modifying wherever you want in your bars
😎👍
So like 2 and 3 are intervene dps and healer for me
Screw making a 50 line names macro
solo shuffle statement
This is the future
If you want to set a whole bunch of stuff with this, you'll have to use macro toolkit
It lets you set super long macros
Is it worth to drop 1 versa-haste gem from the neck and craft the gem with primal chaos that gives prim stat and haste?
why is all the gear haste and vers and no crit really
yes, a diamond is a greater boost than a normal secondary gem
@severe skiff Hmm ok.But how it is increased?Does it get full ilvl depending of the materials quality you will buy?
I mean increased stats.
Quality of materials helps the crafter produce a higher rank, but the majority of that is on the crafters specialization + skill level
most crafters who can make it can 100% a rank2 diamond if you use a rank3 normal gem, and a rank2 diamond
is no reason to use a rank3 diamond
it will take an inspiration proc to produce a rank3, which is usually around 20% chance
Ok understood
so very likely you get a rank2, small chance at getting a rank3 diamond
Thanks for the information!
np
Any horde player want to help me kill this group of toxic alliance player camping fields of ferocity? They are killing noob hordes.
you don’t even say if it’s EU or US
Lmao US think they are the only English speaker in the world xD
Hahahaha
Best thing I've read this year
What the fuck did I just read
@grave forum it’s an international discord meaning we speak English (not US :p) to understand everyone
Im french and there is all nationalities
Don’t start with French xenophobia again Phil pls
again
yeah
whats a french xenophobe
A frenchman scared of/hateful towards foreigners
The way he means it is that i am acting that way towards the french
When it's just a funny on the internet to 🤢 anything french since they eat peepos
are yall bullying troma because a bunch of paid actors lost a game of kickball?
Nah not cuz of soccer
bullying?
Cuz he plays prot 
Wut no
I was talking about phil hating French
Not the first time
oh
Hate em so much man grrr 😡😡
racist
Mondays
Hi everyone is this the paladin or Hunter pvp discord? I am new to Dragonflux
It's the bad SV hunter discord
Oh wow okay
Yes
This is the demon hunter without demon abilities and rogue without stealth abilities and hunter without ranged abilities class discord
why do I feel like you are from mage discord?

Hmm okay thank you
I am who I am
Best 2s comp for fury/ dps ?!
get an OP dps to carry u like rog or dh
feral 2
Guys the opener lets say with spear is like: Spear-Pop Recklessness and avatar then you instant pop odyn's fury again or you save it after ur cds are gone so you can get again a mini avatar?
i save it for when avatar runs out to extend it a bit
I tend to pop odin depending on how many opponents i hit with it... When theres mlre than one in range, i pop it even when avatar is still up
Yo guys, what of the following classes works best with preservation/fury/x? Enha, unholy or ret?
seems like 20-30 at 2100+
Ey fuck you man
Reminder that the move is arms on Tuesday 
Do you even know where listembourg is ? I bet that no
not until the free talent points


Hey if fury is fun for you play it, I'm bored as shit PVEing people and still losing to DH/assa by virtue of numbers alone
I think fury is perfect for some button mashing PvP, just to chill, but it is way too boring to main the spec
true, we'd rather tryhard as arms and still lose to DH/assa 
what is the best healer for a fury dh comp guyes ?
Evoker/druid is the answer to most of the healer questions
mw too
Mw has a higher skill cap for defensive play imo
Druid and evoker plays the game for you
true 
how're you enjoying sv so far? thinking of leveling one on the side
Dogshit
Needs dmg buff 100%
Shit's doing 15k dps 
I'll be trying new build next session tho
rip, no wonder i havent seen a single sv hunter yet 
Its objectively bad
why are none of the fun specs good anymore 
It is
I mean
Mongoose i dont care too much
I dont like bombs/Serpent doing zero damage
They really fucked sv
And fully stacked mongoose hitting for 30k
Losing that tier set was a big ole ripperoni
Fury of the eagle getting HUGE buff tho
It was bad
Basically made it a two button spec but damn did it hit like a truck
hello warrior friends
Even more actually cuz zero rng in the class
im also pissed they ruined feral
But the dmg is not there
the PW playstyle every game is omega cringe
hello fury warrior main
You don’t want feral to be bleed based? That was the main complaint of every feral player.
bleed based good
but PW requires 0 brainpower
because there's no actual dot maintenance

but it instantly dies to anything
with a viewer?
yea
yea arms sucks
stop! 
cringeeeee
were you running exploiter?
most fun build imo but it just doesnt feel right

i would give my firstborn for a 20/30 dstance split
equal values is probably a little too strong, but 10% is literally irrelevant
blizz has never cucked out as hard as they did the day they gave rogues a disarm
rogue having disarm was a mistake
And double vanish

remember the 20s CDR on vanish? wasnt that so cool to verse? 😐
What is your heal comp ?
i was just playing disc arms with my friend.
rdruid arms and pres arms prob best
Okay, i play with q disc too, atm at 1k7-1k8 cr and i feel it work good
With fatality build its good i just call him « ok we gonna push him to 35% hp then he die »
Pretty fun
Playing that too. One of us either blows up or disc goes oom :<
"Lets give Rogue every form of CC, debuff, and disruption imaginable and multiple ways to reset a fight, and what the hell a few strong flat percentage DRs. And lets put some these on no cooldown via poison"
can i get this spec please? i need something for bg i am newcomer 🙂
Rogue still doesn't have roots

Delete this before ion sees.
"We felt that rogue lacked control as a melee dps in pvp formats. So we're adding a function to crippling poison that roots after 5 applications. Happy holidays!"
😂

Look fair !! ( no)
Where fear
"Shadowstep now roots the target for 3 seconds, this root does not break from the rogues damage sources"
F tier class smh my head
No bump too
Woyyer's root doesn't break from damage, it's too op, needs nerf
At this rate maybe MS and Exec gonna one shot so no need for survivability
anyone know if nerfed bloodletting is better or worse than 1 point in bloodborne?
its 1am, cbf doing math
friendly stepping teammates make it impossible to kill a sub rogue i swear
The trinket set stack with Orc racial ?
Like we have 20% stun, 15% all other ?
Or just 20% stun from racial and no more ?
im pretty sure a 35% stun reduction would be worse lmao
perfectly balanced and fair, we cant have rogue below S tier, MUD
I can understand it cant stack with the racial so impossible to have 35%
but let the racial + 15% to other cc
that would also be stupid lmao
How Orc can be still the best horde race O_o
orc just getting a flat 15% reduced cc duration? 15% sttun duration is already OP as fuck
Yeah
yea... no
They should rework the racial from orc
Remove it, and make all class equal to the pvp trinket set
Yeah orc racial has been an issue for a hot minute instead of reworking they just nerfed it with the PvP set
It’s fine and orc isn’t nearly as good as it was
Haven't the greens kins had enough of a pvp advantage all these years?
Yeah its fine but,
If you put a set thag give to every one -15% to All cc, you should make it work for all race.
Even if that need to rework or remove the orc racial.
Orc racial was always a problem i dont understand why just not cancel it
I suppose orcs can equip non pvp trinkets without losing the set bonus that everyone else needs two trinkets for
But the set trinket give 600 str and 1500 stam
Hey guys. is it worht gearing up fury for pvp? Im a little afraid its gonna be nerfed to the ground once im fully geared
They normalize ilvl gear in pvp and its good, they want to put a cc bonus, but keep the unbalance of racial
Its like you make your work at 90% good and clean, and the 10% other like « ah sht im tired let’s release like that » for the most simple part x)
Do you think human racial is better? Whichever trinkets I use puts the human racial on cooldown also so pretty much useless
I don't complain
Its an usable spell, shared with pvp trinket with a CD strong, but fair
If human decide to not take pvp trinket they can only remove stun
Orc racial should just be like a resource buff or something
10 prevent rage/energy/mana
Agree
10 percent extra mana might be op but the other ones seem fine
Or things like 2% /rage/energy/mana cost reduce
2% dmg dealed or reduced under 30% hp
0.5% on main stats
Things like that
they need to do some active racials the passive ones are boring af
blizz just made human/orc racials less relevant which is good
overhauling all of them to something completely new doesn’t make much sense and probably doesn’t warrant extra rebalancing. I’d rather have all racials more or less irrelevant so you’re not screwed if you cba to reroll race
do we use the BB or CB build in pvp? i see BB build in pins but also using battle trance to heal with raging blow
both the wpvp 2hers are crit vers why blizzard why
Idk I feel like my dks should be dark iron dwarf now lol
i kinda am at a loss here. almost every class it seems has something with which they can get immune to slaughterhouse stacks. it feels like every healer somehow can use a def cd or whatever and when i hit em with rampage it does not apply ms effect
I swear some of these shuffle matches I have no control over what happens lmao
any advice for 3s fury dh rdrood guyes please ?
Oh nice share me his build ! I will send it to my friend !
Palunomor
How viable is fury feral 2s yall think
not
fury can at least stay immortal for 12 seconds with ER provided it’s not stunned and on target
Yea, i played it yesterday and we won most of our games but I was starting at 0cr cause i hadent queued 2s yet so
everything counters us 1v1
Welcome to the most teammate dependent class in the game
Uhdk doesn't feel great vs fury 1v1
Okay well I guess I just read enough lmao
I’m thinking about swappingng to mistweaver or disc priest …. I can’t seem to do enough dmg to kill them
hey guys if i am new to pvp and want to start some solo shuffle should i go arms or furry? (Easier to pick up)
Fury probably atm
Fury
Right next to DH
Feels so good to play 😎 double dps 2s has been a blast as fury. Did frost/fury to 1000 and feral/fury to 1400 yesterday
Only lost to DH/healer
🤔
ye tbh watching mud play with a healer in 2s is painful. surely double dps is way to go
but then again at his lvl u prob need healer idk
its in a different planetary orbit to my level 😅
Fury, people dont gonna blame you for your spec and the spec work well and is easy to learn
What is his rank 2s atm ?
War should play with a hearler, double dps can cheese some game, but its not eternal.
Except RM maybe
I lose to disc healer mistwalker every time
Im just swapping to healers this season. I play dps all@the time
You lose vs double heal?
And disc priest just looks unkillable
No comps like, disc priest affliction / disc priest feral/ disc priest reptile
Disc priest ret**
1400 it sucks. 🥲
anyone know what addon is this?
it is gladius
my gladiatorlosssa keeps resetting itsself and turning on every abilitie tff
Speaking of add-ons, are there any people would recommend?
Only real essential addon is a DR tracker of some kind and maybe a cooldown tracker.
sArena and OmniBar are both good.
jo guys just a random question. what do you think after arms buffs this week is fury still better or arms in arena ?
Yes. Arms problem was not addressed at all
Unless arms starts literally one shotting people from 100%, they will remain below fury till their none existent survivability is addressed
unless they nerf again fury, and the two of us get global by every one 
Or that, I don't want to consider that
Hi guys, I'm pretty new to PvP so apologies in advance but what addons/weak auras would you guys generally recommend for BG's/arenas? thanks in advance 🙂
6 straight shuffles with 0 rating change im losing my mind
What's your current rating?
And be glad it didn't go down I suppose
it had already been going down i shot up to 1950 and then tanked to 1700 lol
wouldn't think that Arms has low survivability, interesting take lol.
No shield barrier kinda sucks but other than that it feels pretty decent.
It's not a take. It's a fact. Their squishiness isn't really up for debate. It's about the one thing people here are generally in agreement over
Losing ignore pain and the def stance nerf has crippled arms
Dunno I've enjoyed the new imp victory, 20% reduc on reflect and BI heal.
def a tradeoff.
won't help you if u die within a rogue stun :/
Which is fine. They're still the squishiest melee at the moment.
They have some tools, just not near enough
yeah warrior has always been one of those melee that you kinda just gotta play super well with dstance management and anticipation.
just a downfall of the class' design.
If you don't pre d a big kidney go and you don't have trinket you kinda just lose.
dont think d stance managament has anything to do with it
d stance won't help you to sruvive a kidney ^^
That's a bad hand wave given theyve lost so many tools and leaned heavy into borrowed power. Likewise while you are right that their class design leans on having a support, the problem is no one else can say the same anymore
Arms is MoP class design in a DF meta
wasn't a hand wave, was agreeing that warrior is susceptible to setup comps if you get caught in battle.
Arms getting damage buffs might allow it to perma d stance at some point. I also feel like it'll scale with gear very well due to it's reliance on crit.
And Fury and indeed other classes have tools to deal with that which arms does not
It also has straight up better honor talents than fury, so at some point it might overtake it with better gear and such. The big damage offenders are getting nerfed as well, assa rogue and mm specifically which is an indirect buff.
Time will tell, as for now. Fury is just better.
I tanked from 2050 to 1750
Again, you can argue the warrior class design. But it remains that fury was given better tools and you have to acknowledge that the removal of the borrowed power systems hit arms harder than most in this respect due to needing them far more
i mean you can just simply say losing condemn + ip + def stance nerf crippled the spec
and it doesn't help assa rogue and DH can just PVE down anyone they want.
Arms is incredibly squishy and lack in survival tools, it's just fact
Sure or you can accept where the class is at and still climb, healers have the power again, like in legion
Lets be real, the only reason fury is better rn is two fold. It does better with current gear, and it also has self heals. Utility wise arms does better. And honestly when it can cleave it already does more damage than fury. Imagine what that's gonna look like when you're proper stacked with crit.
Am I stupid? Yes I’m stupid lol
Bfa and Legion also had strong borrowed power tools for arms survivability. Arms whole it dying kit was borrowed power outside of IP for years
So, if fury gets nerfed into the ground for pvp, I guess we all reroll dh/rogue? Lol
i am referring specifically SL to DF transition.
you play ret/arms and get gud
How is arms utility better. they have a better Ms and..?
Banner , sharpen
duel, banner, bladestorm cc break, sharpen
yeah storm as well
it's just comp dependent lol.
Fury feels a lot stronger to me because it requires a lot less coordination to get going, esp in solo shuffle context.
it's a lot more of an independent spec.
a good arms warrior can shit on whole RM/X setups on his own. You're a huge problem to setup comps.
and its survivability is stronger.
I forgot those fair enough
Should say I do wish arms would get buffed in defense. Having played one a bit it was frustrating fighting people who realize arms isvthe best focus target
I think it'll scale to the point where it can sit dstance all game.
Damage buffs are also helping
If only they'd stop nerfing d stance
i mean it's 20% dam reduction rn yeah ?
I think it was nerfed to 10
its 10/20
reverse it.
Huh ? Is the tooltip lying rn ?
I think that the pre-Legion design of dstance where it affects rage production was the better solution of dstance camping.
yeah that's shit aight
should be 15 10 like fury
Agreed, being back ignore pain, let retaliation be used in a stun
Honestly revert dstance to 20 reduction 10% dam loss. I think with impending victory ignore pain isn't a must. And the spec will do just fine after.
i fucked my mmr in solo shuffle at start, really hard to gain rating now… RIP 🪦
Impending victory isn't much. Look at other class design.
The biggest thing I've noticed from testing is that arms actually can do MUCH more damage than fury when it crits. And we don't have enough crit rn.
It's depressing as hell but you can learn a lot looking at other classes loadouts
I go from doing nothing to 2 globalling people
all depending if I crit someone
or not
Think I hit like a 150k MS in a game once
It may be true but waiting on other seasons isnt a good way of fixing XD
Conquest gear will do allot
yup, wep tomm + 2 drakebreaker pieces
Or if giga lucky
vault wep + 3 conq pieces + 2 drakebreaker
do we get a spark tomorrow
no
f
made pve gear, kinda wish i hadent
Fire mages had that problem. Blizzard gave them tools to circumvent the reliance to simply work
20/10 dstance was just shitty design.
imo.
It makes sense in an ignore pain world
yea like great i take less damage but now im losing the dps race even more by using this shit
Arms should have something like Fortify from PoE, the higher damage you deal with a single hit the more damage reduction you gain for the next 5 seconds
As if now, for fury and arms both it just prevents them from getting the help they need
No defense stance at all and buffed other defensive would be the way to go. Bring them in line with other melee who being a metric ton of tools that don't cripple their damage
I wanted to check with better warriors than I. I've been getting my pvp spec into a place where I like it and I wanted to see if I was understanding this correctly. Without the Storm of Swords talent is slam basically unnecessary? Seems like it just does less damage than whirlwind at that point and it costs rage.
(also some way to counter play stealth as the lack of being able to handle that has been a constant problem)
? very few classes have counterplay to stealth.
you can get the crimson glad drake skin from solo right
That's what I'm saying yes. And aside from dh these tools aren't great
No @cinder vapor
F
It's almost funny that the theme of the armored gladiator dragon is the crafted pve set
No, it'll only be from 3v3.
GUYS
how can i crit 200k
like shaman
what spell do i click
highest i have seen is warbringer critting 50k
what button do i click for 200k crit?

lol.
Maybe the one where you heal for all their damage while spamming 2 buttons
lmaooo.
Oh Arms, nvm then
i play 2v2
game starts at 30% dampening
enraged regeneration
does jack shit
cant even outheal rogue dots
yeah so war in 2s is pretty dookie
hi mud.
Warrior is too honest and easily played around in 2s
Shuffle sounds like a more enjoyable time
If you don't mind 30min queues
and shuffle might as well be called "a shadow, demo, havoc and you".
Is there anything that makes the queue more visible when the game isn't the focus? I'd like to do some mapping in PoE between queues.
Maybe visible isn't the right word, but just something that makes you aware that queue popped
Build?
Explosive Arrow Champion until I can afford a decent Flicker setup
I did some 2s with a feral we went 18-9 even tho I was starting from 0 rating, was fun
Ew flicker
It’s depressing
I'm a basic rf inq bitch
Especially if you aren’t queueing with an rdruid or mw
Don't want to get too off-topic, but they fixed the crashing for that. But I finally get to feel like an anime swordsman protagonist w/ vaal flicker.
I don't even have epilepsy and I'm pretty sure that shit would send me into a seizure
Anyways, so I'm guessing there isn't a tool/3rd party addon that alerts of queue pop at a system level or windows notification?
enable Sound in Background.
idk.
A wa that spazzes out and fills your screen with warning effects?
vaal flicker?@turbid ember
Different game
how do you guys pick between fast footwork vs 2/2 wild strike?
i just pick 2/2 wild strike every time
fury > arms for pvp?
Yes
sadge
For fury, is the warpaint talent gonna be worth taking only being at 5% reduced damage
Your still tanky af with it
if you take 1.5m dmg in an arena, that mean you reduce 75k dmg overall
If your like me who crafted boots like these
in 2s/solo yes, 3s eh
What are you taking that you don't just get both
Just mud’s build in pin
Oh with spear?
My b why I was confused I haven't been using it
Can you do roar with spriest?
Dunno guess it depends how bad they need peel
depends on enemy comp and ur playstyle
if ur arms spear is generally higher value baseline cause you actually get crit
hi guys, all the arms wars are going for full haste
is it so strong?
compared to crit / vers
Sks?
skullsplitter
so even with skullspliter you dotn build a bit more haste than 12% ?
normaly hatse is better for bleed no ? (skullspliter proc all the bleed tics, so more haste more tics ?)
or bleed dont work like that anymore ?
20 Dhs over 2.4k in shuffle compared to 3 fury nice
i dont play sks
Shuffle isn’t gonna be balanced and it shouldn’t be balanced around it
what
Shuffle isn’t gonna be balanced and it shouldn’t be balanced around it
Kinda simple idea
Classes or even specs
i was just making an observation
PvP balance in general
not sure where i said there was anything in need of balance
cringe gamer energy chill b
So balance should be beholden to the meta?
How's balance for warrior now improved or still shite
PvP shouldn’t be balanced around a solo queue system
Warrior op
Solo queue is 3s, what?
You’re on crack or something my guy
What if I told you a lot of your solo shuffle rounds are decided before the gates open
Based purely on team comps
homie was hawking the channel looking for argument lol
There is no arguement, only logic and the peanut gallery
It's almost like raw damage outweights setups in shuffle, which DH just so happens to be the king of
It's not like you're playing against the same comp for 6/6 games, it's just 1/6
Cringe
0head response
Do you guys use WW (Fury)
Also, aren't the majority of games balanced around solo queue? Like LoL and CS:GO?
0head response
I'm just saying solo queue puts you in a 3v3 game. Any argument outside of that is talking from a meta perspective.

mud whats ur opener in pvp :hmm if u care to tell
is arms good in pvp rn or dose fury stil hold crown
solo shuffle is a bad idea haha u have no clue who ur gonna get or if they even care for the matchs
@stuck mulch my burst?
thanks, didnt know u shared that
feel like a noodle atm
im just bad tho
Do u guys use hold Badge for Reck CD?
as fury am I buying the conquest weapon with vers & crit since there isn't one with haste?
In LoL and CS:GO, I can go 1v5
In WoW, my team can't kill theirs unless we coordinate some CDs and cross CC
hey guys, new to fury warrior currently stacking vers and haste for pvp running annihilator build. Im confused (returning player) conquest gear lacks those secondary stats, is vers and mastery a good option too?
It is much easier to solo carry in those games
in lol and dota you can outfarm opponents and go 1v5
and csgo is a shooter
Finally, a real counter-point. I've admittedly only played a few solo games so I'm wondering what higher solo rating is like. Do you still not get people with 5/6 or 6/6 wins? Would that not constitute a carry?
Not if your teammates feed their carry and you lose your barracks in 20 minutes
With the right class/spec
at any rating
They will all be better solo players in general, so you may have more coordination than lower brackets as you would expect
At a high rating in those mobas there shouldn't be that big of a skill gap and if there is then you're probably just smurfing and I can't say that counts
God idk if I'd love or hate them adding pings/quick chats in solo queue or BGs 
People macro "Attack this target" ping to their primary spam button
Being able to ping/highlight a kill target would be nice for solo queue is all I'm saying
Yea I feel you
Is leader not able to do that?
Probably, but the leader always shifts and it would need to be quick/dynamic
I could see it being done in high rated solo queue
I was just thinking of dota where u can spam a ping that puts a point on the map and makes a ping sound and u can just keep pressing it lol
Or atleasst you used to be able to
Angry gamers will spam it at you if you're bad
My time in LoL is that the spammer is often the bad one (jungle main btw)
is there a build for pvp with raging blow or only slam?=
Oh well if you play jungle literally everything is you're fault you signed up for that /s
Is it still valuable to swap to shield/defensive stance if being focused real hard?
hmm gotta find some macros for weapon swaps
But use shield block for their burst tho
been a hot minute
Is there an all-in-one
swap to def, pop out shield, shield block
God getting trained messed with me. To me "trained" was getting kited out, but now it means "running train on someone'
True brazzers experience
Does shield block still require defensive stance?
Probably just shield
Anyone got some good swapping macros?
I liked doing this for macros
#showtooltip
/equipset shield
/use Shield Block
It's something like that, I'm not in WoW to test for sure
Then I just put /equipset 2h to all my primary abilities
Obviously you need to make an equipment set in the character window.
Guys, should I use Slam as fury war in pvp ?
I know it was not a thing in Shadowlands but now I am not sure..Im going to play this for the first time
execute
They say we're a 3 button class for a reason
I love it
❤️
hey yall! returning player from MoP days. How we looking for arenas? whats the go to spec
How do u earn primal chaos fast?
People here telling me fury is a high sustained damage spec not realising all the pressure came from the 40% mortal strike

mythic +
rip
Are there any PVP talents ya'll would swap out against double caster teams?
like pally / lock / spriest
or any specific talents
Is Unbridled Ferocity bugged for anyone else?
It procs but I don't see the buff or the Crit increase on my stat sheet
is the proc rate for Insignia of Alacrity known?
tomorrow the arms dream comes back 
warmode drops, bg daily win chests, killing rares while waiting for queue. but rares sometimes require a group
Me and a friend had two different experiences with getting chests in ranked. He was getting a chest for every arena win but I only got one for the first win.
Small Indy company 🤷♂️
I am assuming you get the box as long as the queue button shows a box?
Only for wins though right?
You get guaranteed chest first win and than it’s a bit rng on how much you get (only after wins) at higher cr you do get like 3-5 primals from 1 box though
I seem to get them somewhat frequently
And every single shuffle “win” also gets you one afaik
Do we even need primal chaos after crafting two pieces of gear?
i mean you need it to craft the upgrade tokens
What upgrade tokens
And about primal infusion/concentrated primal infusion
I mean we do earn those from rated pvp right
i havent. only from H bosses and 11+ so far
Do people actually put on a shield? Doesn't seem worth it..?
Thats because ur rating isn’t high enough yet.
I think u can earn primal infusion/concentrated primal infusion from rated pvp, depending on the rating
that would be weird if you can because they arent used for pvp at all
So eventually when we have a ton of spark of ingeniutiy, we can just craft a whole set of 418 pve gear
Can someone confirm I'm not being blind here?
For the pvp crafted gear it's 20x 1500gold for blue alloy and 2x 1600g for purple + commission fee?
Too expensive for u?
U know how much the BIS pve gear cost to craft?
The recipe for elemental lariat goes for like 5-6 mil
What are crafting fees like for the pvp gear, per piece as a stranger and a guildmate?
No idea, i haven’t crafted mine yet, not because its too expensive but i don’t have enough fraking primal chaos lol
It varies i assume
Commission can be anywhere from zero to infinity
Depending on who you get
Thx
If you want pve stats you should use q3 mats when crafting. although they more expensive
love how warpaint gets nerfed because we are too durable? any other furys out there not feeling very durable anymore?
besides enraged regen
we are going to get so slapped come reset
i am 99% sure this is not true... the only way to get the primal infusion/concentrated primal infusion is from heroic and mythic raid and by reaching renown 25
perspective i dont think it needed to be nerfed imo
nope i heard it from higher rated pvper, they get primal infusion/concentrated primal infusion
Also from wowhead
where on wowhead does it say that?
yeh its gonna suck bro that 5% gonna hurt i know it already
I think dakkroth got it from arena win at 2.4 cr in 3v3
ah ok, cool
Yeh, but would be pretty cool if we can end up building a 418 set of pve gear while doing pvp
Which, by the looks of it, we can
i mean, thats a bit unrealistic
I mean not anytime soon, we need 1 spark per slot
But sparks are supposed to be plentiful eventually
10 primal focus per piece of gear, 1 box for every 4 wins and presumably you get these at 2400+
definitely not likely that many people will be building full 418 sets from only pvp
Who said primal focus come from 2400+?
its more annoying pvp and pve crafted gear both need sparks wish pvp had something different
I dont think it would be 2400+ for primal focus, probably 2400+ for concentrated
thats 418 gear
Yeh
so 418 gear would be locked behind 2400+
I mean idk what ratings you can focus/concentrated focus
well it's "high-end" pvp, and blizz usually equates mythic raiding to ~2400
and 418 crafted gear is acquired through mythic raiding
so it makes sense that it would also be acquired through 2400+ arenas
Ya thats very reasonable
Maybe 1800+ or 2100+ gets primal focus
Then 2400+ gets conceanted primal focus
So 1800/2100 pvper can craft set of 405
2400+ pvper can craft a set of 418
It'll be a high bar so raiders don't feel obligated to pvp
Are we supposed to be going after our tier set peices for pvp? Do the set actually work on instanced pvp?
there's no incentive for them to pvp at all, they can just do m+ or raid for the focuses
better to just wait for the tier converter thingy in january
otherwise you're giving up a ton of ilvl
no clue
Yes. I'm saying they are sure to make it hard and slow enough that raiders feel no obligation
Also set bonuses are all turned off in arena and bg.
i mean, there wouldnt be any obligation anyway. the gear can be acquired from other places. the only time there is incentive for pveers to pvp is when gear isnt acquirable in pve
tier sets work in pvp..?
No they don't.
They're not supposed to. Even the wpvp bonuses are turned off
raid tier set works, bloody token tier set does not
How stupid. That makes mythic gear better depending on the bonus
not really? the tier set is acquirable without having to mythic raid
idk i dont remember hardly ever losing to rogues with azzinoth glaives back in bc 
and none of the bonuses are that strong anyway
anyone got the arms build people are running?
It's called fury
My bad I didn't know this. How's that work?
same as SL
same way it worked in SL, tier set converter thing
I was gone for 90% of sl
you can convert one piece into tier per week
keeps the same ilvl, but gets the tier bonus and whatever secondary stats are on that piece from raid
nope, it'll be the same ilvl
yes, it does
Was that confirmed? Since the pvp ilvl is new
pvp ilvl is not new
and it's designed the exact same way the SL version was, and it kept the pvp ilvl
how long do seasons normally last again
kinda hard to tell how long this season will last but probably 4-6 months?
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My bad then, good to hear on the set bonuses. Wondering if it'll be worth losing the vers since the warrior bonuses do indeed seem crap
the short ones tend to be around 12 weeks, the longer ones around 22-24 weeks
the later is more common
I think people really underplayed how hard the Slaughterhouse nerf hit
It not refreshing on re-hit really hurts when you play against people that can actually kite well
no one underplayed it, most streamers were talking about it being completely gutted.
IMO it actually feels like they overplayed it.
we lost them previously with mediocre tier and forced stats in s3/4 and it was fine
quire preferable to no tier
if you pool rage and watch the drop off it seems pretty manageable post healing nerf across the classes.
I remember watching MUD's stream and he said it wasn't too bad since it can get to higher stacks
But maybe later on the stream he went back on it
Yeah and with kiting the average drops hard for non-refresh
you’re still at your most lethal point during full cds
which is around 24-25%, but you can push it closer to 30% if you do a good job of pooling rage and refreshing it
it’s apparently quite common to build full stacks during reck
given how straight forward the spec is, I see no issues with it
Given that the higher end healers are Resto/Evoker I hate it
Since they kite so well
you can build full stacks outside of cds very easily
At least SPriest/Demo tends to stay still long enough for you to smack enough
both of those are bad targets, I have no issues at high rating maintaining uptime, are you running speed enchants?
rdruid’s design in the past couple years has encouraged opportunistic swaps rather than kiting yourself to a loss anyway
you had bolt and spear and he had no tranq? bad time for the orange class dude
Yeah I am
My buddy was 3k in Shadowlands and he's watching me and he's at a loss for what else to do lol
link a vod, no one can review without one
could always throw a replay in #810664169140518947
If I try to replay then my comp will explode trust
it’s nice to have something other than illiterate newcomers posting questions
I appreciate it but I'll wait for him to come up with something 😄
you sure? OBS might work well
3k
Guys, if you normally use gladius and it isn't working right now
this /console ActionButtonUseKeyDown 0 will fix it
but then my oonga boonga button mash will be slower
It was actually like 2,930 or w/e
But he says 3k so I say 3k lol
also if ur bud is 3k and doesn't know what's going on, he's either too nice to tell you you're making mistakes, or didn't earn his 3k @stoic basin
S2 SL 
He knows what's going on he just mains Monk so he isn't entirely in the know with Warrior
And also just cause Warrior mobility isn't nearly as good as stuff like Evoker/Druid/Havoc
Ngl if 2 people can carry one scrub to 3k then I'd love to know who those 2 are and how much they charge lmao
Arena world champs over there
happens more often than you think
True, I guess we're all getting carried by how good Fury is atm
My monkey brain just ain't able to get carried by it as hard cause I don't hit the buttons as good lol
monk is prob one of the most mobile melee in the game
one incap out of form is lights out for a druid
I think that did just make me realize a hueg problem with how I think about this though and the answers I've been seeing
Is that we all talk about it like it's a 1v1 vacuum
a lot of carries are paying for partners to queue consistently with as well, LFG boss is real
As if the Druid doesn't have 2 other people to help if he gets incapped out of form
Which leads to really linear thinking
So at least that's something, I gotta not think about it as much as a 1v1 and think more about what to do with a comp vs the other comp
yeah i mean sometimes
you just have to force druid into bad spots
which is 100% harder if he plays with wizards
@stoic basin it sounded like if you did replays/recordings your teammates would rage? If so, get new teammates, those kids are going to throw tantrums/rage eventually anyway.
Oh no the 3k dude is super chill
Just can't play as much these days cause it ain't Covid times and wife/work etc
anyone know if the weapon enchant goes away if you upgrade one of the pvp weapons to the epic version
druids die that easily?
they can if out of form with no hots
Wait elite is 2400 this time, not 2100?
What rank do u unlock the weapon tint
2.4
Damn, didn’t it used to be 2100
dont remember
Damnnn
But with 2400, you unlock the elite transmorg for all your other chractesr right
how are you guys playing vs prevoker, especially w shroud up? we have 0 cc vs them...so just pump everyone else?
Yes
And pray it gets nerfed to the ground lol
feelssadman
Just glow
Yes
So it doesn’t actually grant you the sets/transmorgs right
Still have to earn them through whatever content
Ye
Hi guys, recently got into Fury cuz of Bajheera pvp vids. How the heck do I play like that
also, any Macro tips for a fury Annihilator build?

press hard and press fast

dont even look at screen, just smash
Can you get elite from solo shuffle
Welcome brother
You gotta spam arenas
Get better at dmg first and foremost
Then, cc and trading cooldowns
Then, positioning
Or send your gameplay to #810664169140518947
And we can provide info and what to improve
And dont take shit from lfg ur doin fine
Yo, are you saying if you get 2.4 on any character you can buy the elite appearances even if you don't use 2H axes on that class?
negative
I'm not 2400 yet so i dont know for sure
Probs char specific
But iirc there was something about being able to use other classes ensembles
During beta
Who knows
That didn't really pertain to pvp.
@elfin surge you 2400 yet?
Easiest class to get 2.4k with post class changes tomorrow?
Noone knows yet
Cuz noone is full gear yet
And there's plenty of changes happening every week
Rn spriest is broken
dh in solo shuffle.
Dh is broken
ffs i wanted the elite warglaives
Prevoker is broken
am I really going to play dh in pvp
New dh nerf posted just now
Same
Have I sunk that low
what do you guys have for your burst macro, i feel like im not doing enough damage when it counts
I thought they got gutted
20% the hunt nerf
did the dh players tell you that
Big
it's less about what's being pushed and more about when it's being pushed
any other nerf?
Only dh
Hey man, thank you for the warm welcome, good to know there are people like you here
pvp gameplay reviews are video recordings?
How hard will it be to get 2400 from solo shuffle
Depend of you
Ye, record your arenas, send there, and maybe someone will provide some good feedback
Hardest
Cuz of 12h queues
I mean they said they will fix the queue time right
The longest but the easiest x)
probably cant fix healers not queueing
Atm i solo shuffle as arm
The fact that there is only 3 warriors over 2400 in solo shuffle kinda scares me
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chase b
until u keep queueing into demo spreiest 
Im close to 1k9 but sure 2k4 is an is an other world, let’s see
gain 30 gain 32 gain 29 lose 75 FUCK
lmao
ty blizz
really>
Yeah
thats cringe ive seen a 6 win gain 0
Sorry to not 6/6 blizzard
That means his MMR was alot higher than rest, so game expected him to be 6/6
@uneven turret yeah maybe but that’s rude -62 on 5/6
should get 1 point for your time lol

