pvp

[brazen rock]

[stuck root]

I aint rerolling shit

Also i do 2s because i play exclusively with my brother and pugging a random isnt very fun/dont want others in our discord call

It gets the same gear as 3s anyway, pvp is scuffed af in all formats not sure why people get big heads about it

[stiff dust]

best arm stat ?
still versa>crit>mast>haste?

[glad pagoda]

why people buy this first?

[brazen rock]

Dumb.

[umbral creek]

I got a bounty and killed 10 alliance to compelte a quest

What was the reward?

[warped compass]

Anyone have good advice or guides to how to improve as a fury warrior in Arenas?

just to point me in the right direction

[severe skiff]

title, alliance slayer

[thick reef]

queue solo shuffle
wait 30 minutes
for whatever reason whenever people get on my team they become braindead and die instantly
0 wins with highest damage in the match and no deaths
lose 80 rating

[umbral creek]

IOt take time to show up?

[thick reef]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-suicide-sobbing-simpsons-gif-11098229

[severe skiff]

should get it instantly if you completed the quest, assuming you didn't already have it

same title/quest from bfa

[umbral creek]

Its kill 10 alliance while having bounty right? I handed some shi tin

Couldn't read it was too hectic

[severe skiff]

yeah

[clever furnace]

ppl already have 418 crafted gear, insane

[umbral creek]

I can make 2 but don't know if iI want pvp or pve items

[undone ermine]

The benefits of no-lifing. 😛

[void hamlet]

nothing has changed for fury pvp correct? mix and match to get all haste right

[sharp meteor]

Yep, but mastery in slots where you can't easily get haste are also fine.

[pulsar herald]

Is Evoker’s nullifying shroud dispellable?

[urban skiff]

what tactic are you guys using for gearing?

obviously honor gear + crafted boots. But how are you spending conq + trophy of strife? My plan is to wait for vault and then spend a lot next week.

[raw summit]

Conq you typically hold till weapon

[urban skiff]

in theory we can get two weapons on wednesday. Conq + strife

idk if offhand is worth as much as two other slots though

[thick reef]

Bruh I was on a shuffle last night with 2 ret 1 prot pally 1 guardian Druid and a afflic lock fuckin fighting for my life lmao

[undone ermine]

What are the trophies of strike from?

*strife

[stuck mulch]

too bad 80% of the cunts queing are rogues

[urban skiff]

pick up quest in pvp area. You get 8 for doing it weekly

[undone ermine]

And that's the only source?

[urban skiff]

I thought we loved rogues?

[urban skiff]

for an hour of the patch, the source was AH. Some US pvp'ers running around in full strife gear.

[undone ermine]

Ugh.

[urban skiff]

idk if there was a rollback.

[undone ermine]

One would hope.

That's a huge edge.

[latent hazel]

16+ dungs are not that hard

[urban skiff]

lacking the life to farm that many dungeons is hard though

only advanced zombies can go that far

[latent hazel]

wdym

its fun playing with the boys

find some people that you enjoy playing with

dont have to be pain

[urban skiff]

would take some serious professional and homelife neglect for me to farm that much

[worldly sluice]

Started playing pvp last night. Got the trinkets, should I continue to farm honor to buy a full set before I swap to rated and work on conquest gear?

[cinder lake]

@umbral creek i got it also..it is bugged

[brazen rock]

Yes

Queuing in pve gear will get you flamed

[cinder lake]

@umbral creek the achievement you get is the alliance slayer...completed it also but the achievement is not rewarded..it is bugged

[worldly sluice]

Weapons as well? Or are M+ weapons preferred over the pvp weapons?

Suppose I should say I'm fury

[grand scaffold]

atm thats my main but the demo interupt nerf is so depressing

[undone pumice]

i think fatality is kinda underrated can prob get some cheese 1bangs

someone acc good try this and tell me how ti goes pls

[grizzled zinc]

is there any working spell reflect wa?

[grand scaffold]

spell reflect to do what

[stuck root]

Btw it is bugged and not rewarding title like it should

I also did the quest i better get the fuckin title because it is super obnoxious to get done (at least wpvp set helps a lot)

[grizzled zinc]

Lets say I'm targeted and a lock is casting Chaos Bolt

[grand scaffold]

uh

i wouldnt look into a spell reflect weakaura for that

try and find an addon that shows target/focus castbar

that way you can see what they cast and decide whether or not to spell relfect

[grand scaffold]

hahahahahahahahahahhahaha

[tranquil hemlock]

😂😂😂😂😂

[onyx vale]

anyone else excited to be pved down like a mob by shadow priests?

[grand scaffold]

whats happening?

[onyx vale]

pve buffs to shadowpriest that will affect their pvp

while they are already broken in pvp

[undone pumice]

xd

xd

xd

[grand scaffold]

quick question

whats the best arms build atm

[undone pumice]

prob whatever tay is running or magnusz was

[grand scaffold]

who is tay 0_0

[undone pumice]

big gamer

[grand scaffold]

ok

anybody know how to get high ilvl warmode gear

[undone pumice]

get trophy of strife

[brazen rock]

Dm me I'll link mine when I get home from work

[undone pumice]

get bloody tokens

[grand scaffold]

whats a trophy of strife

[onyx vale]

at the pvp sanctum there's a weekly quest that gives you currency to upgrade the blue outdoor gear

[grand scaffold]

ah ok

how many pieces can i upgrade in a week?

also

whats the stat priority for arms

[undone pumice]

all stats r good

haste mast more consistent dmg

crit mast more bursty

haste crit basically just sl arms build

[scarlet barn]

Every season same thing

[stuck root]

Not a fan of having to do a lot of wpvp to get optimal gear

[scarlet barn]

[stuck root]

Also that bug with strife not being soulbound reeeeeally puts a damper on pvp for me

[grand scaffold]

so vers>haste>crit>mastery?

[undone pumice]

it depends on ur build

skullsplitter and bleed builds like mastery more

if u go spear crit will be better

haste is always good but u can get a bunch from in for the kill with thoe builds so u dont need it a lot imo

[stuck root]

SL i was crit mastery for season 1

[gritty salmon]

The next tuning shows me blizzard doesn’t do pvp

Like at all

[stuck root]

2% haste but crit for 50% with condom xd

[grand scaffold]

which build is better

[umbral creek]

You put a ticket in to get it?

[formal steppe]

is arms still shit/a wet noodle? i play prot right now dont want to play braintardarded fury

[spice hornet]

all these MWers in 2s

[thorn herald]

Crit then haste.imo

U press Ms a lot and when it crits for close 50k with no buffs it's a lot more impactful off the resets when you aren't dumping 2 ops into it

[grand scaffold]

ok cool

[grand scaffold]

what build do you run btw

[thorn herald]

• with two piece tier you'll be close to 40% crit on Ms

[grand scaffold]

ooh dang

[thorn herald]

If you look up magnusz build or the bleed build ork posted I use either

The bleed build bursts a lot harder but the magnusz build is better defensively idk how it will change going into next patch

[formal steppe]

i went full mastery for a prot pvp build, how would full mastery be for arms as a bleed buildd?

[thorn herald]

Mastery doesn't affect deep wounds damage lol

It just makes the % amp higher

So it will hit hard due to that

[grand scaffold]

can you link where he sent the bleed build

im illegally blind

[thorn herald]

Is he not in this discord no more

@severe skiff

I'm not at my computer or I would link it

[grand scaffold]

how many days ago did he send it?

[thorn herald]

Few weeks ago

[severe skiff]

BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDARikEJJJJKlkEAAAAQQkkAJAR0okISSoJRIBgDEJAAAAAAAAkQJJAAA

[grand scaffold]

ty ty

[weary sky]

noob question, as fury in 2v2 do you pop all cds on opener or try to force cds without and then go?

[stuck root]

Not yet i figured it just get a cookie cutter response

[grand scaffold]

depends who you are focusing

against dk no

[stuck root]

Braintardarded? Fury is just for you with that spelling lol

[grand scaffold]

🤣

holy moly

arms is actually fun

tf

[finite shoal]

arms actually good now?

[grand scaffold]

idk

but its fun

for the first time in 2 expansions

[weary sky]

yeah lets say someone that cant for sure cd out like a rogue

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[finite shoal]

SL season 2 arms was enjoyable for me too

[grand scaffold]

like with a dk

[weary sky]

a priest or a dk or so

[grand scaffold]

or dh

[finite shoal]

played it there

[grand scaffold]

you use bladestorm first

they panic

[near delta]

Arms hits extremely hard, but it lacks survivability

[grand scaffold]

and use blur

or

[weary sky]

as fury tho

[grand scaffold]

fury doesnt have bladestorm!?

[vagrant sorrel]

nope

[grand scaffold]

what the fuck

uh

bait blur or icebound fortitude first

then smack the dh or dk

againts rogues

bait evasion

hard to get vanish tho

does the bleed build for arms run crit>haste also?

or is it different

[severe skiff]

Preference, crit is prob our best option on paper for all builds tho, esp with tier bonuses

I run mix because I don't like how low haste feels

[grand scaffold]

so

crit>haste?

[severe skiff]

probably the most ideal

[grand scaffold]

ok

[undone pumice]

haste build is easiest, bleed/sk builds r decently harder, crit mast build is also very ez

[grand scaffold]

but which one is the best build to be playing

[severe skiff]

should be noted at this point bleeds in the "bleed build" are supplementary, Mortal strike will still be the majority of your damage, especially after buffs to come

so crit heavy prob still the "best" setup for bleed build

[formal steppe]

how would full mastery be

[severe skiff]

not ideal

[tranquil hemlock]

10% haste rest crit imo

[formal steppe]

with full mastery i have constant 25 % damage amp

[severe skiff]

you also crit less and swing slower/have slower globals

our 4pc is a static dmg % buff and uptime is going to depend on crits

not to mention impale

and if you play it, sharpened blades

I play 19% crit, 21% haste atm but it will swing in favor of crit with conquest weapon/badge

I just like the feel of it

nothing annoys me more than not being able to stormbolt something because of a slow global

arms damage is going to be nice on tuesday, and pretty insane if no other changes come but the ones listed on the ptr

[scarlet barn]

@weary sky i would also like to point out that ndogo is multi boosted player so be cautious with his advices 🙃

[severe skiff]

awkward

[teal cedar]

is there a buy order for the war mode gear?

[grand scaffold]

razonko

you just jealous

i never actually boosted

believe it or not

[scarlet barn]

Im not jealous of people that buy winning

[grand scaffold]

then you must be pretty jealous of me lmao

[severe skiff]

if you're talking about the 421 primal version of it, for fury you're probably going to want to buy offhand first next week, and mainhand conquest

[onyx vale]

very awkward indeed

[brazen rock]

judging by the questions youve asked here, i have no reason to believe you haven't been boosted.

[grand scaffold]

eh

i dont mind

[scarlet barn]

Ndogo we have been through this. You admitted it. We have screenshots

Just take it like a man

[grand scaffold]

lets see it

anyway razonko

[teal cedar]

doing arms, so just conq weapon next week and have crafted boots. was going to buy 1 piece of the war mode to up to 421

[grand scaffold]

if theres 1 person who pisses me off more than anybody

its you

[scarlet barn]

Good

[grand scaffold]

so shut the fuck up man

and btw

[scarlet barn]

I am spreading truth and awareness

[grand scaffold]

still havent seen your xp

[scarlet barn]

You did

[grand scaffold]

what

0?

[scarlet barn]

And im not hiding

[brazen rock]

if goign arms you can buy 2 pieces of war mode

[grand scaffold]

😂

you do your thing man

[thorn herald]

idk if im gonna play 4 piece

[teal cedar]

any 2 in particular ? i assume these will be the last 2 i upgrade from conq gear

[thorn herald]

theres one tier piece with crit versa on it

which is the chest, ill prob run 2 set

[brazen rock]

dont buy tier i guess

we dont know if thats convertable or not

[scarlet barn]

Pretty much

[thorn herald]

i dont think crit and getting 5% damage is going to be that great for the loss of crit chance

[amber harness]

bleed build vs ms/battlelord build with turbo?

[grand scaffold]

meh

i main warlock

not warrior

[brazen rock]

battlelord

[stuck root]

Does the wpvp 2 piece work in arena?

[formal steppe]

no

[brazen rock]

no

[stuck root]

I assume they are all disabled good

[severe skiff]

I think it will be decent since they updated the stats, granted I'm not going full crit so I don't mind the haste/versa pieces

[sharp meteor]

2400 with some giant rdruid, I think?

[thorn herald]

its mostly haste versa stuff

idk

ill get 2 piece

since the pants are haste versa regardless

[scarlet barn]

It was 2700 or 2900 shammy/druid

[thorn herald]

but losing like 8% crit or some shit for 5% damage for 6 seconds when u crit with MS execute or cleave isnt very ideal

IMO

[scarlet barn]

Either of those

[severe skiff]

we get 5% dmg and 5% crit rate from the 4pc buff, 5% crit is like 900 crit rating, of course its not full time

[thorn herald]

is it crit rate

swear it was only 5% bonus damage

[severe skiff]

its 5% crit rate and damage

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[thorn herald]

ah

idk

[grand scaffold]

one my good friends on wow

[thorn herald]

its only off MS and execute

[sharp meteor]

Ye. Could've just been somebody in the finder but eh.

[thorn herald]

ur gonna have to spec cleave

and drop slam

[sharp meteor]

I know that most healers I know would rather rope than LFG 2400 2s with a Warrior for fun.

[severe skiff]

I mean we're going to be spamming mortal strikes with the boost to battlelord

[scarlet barn]

https://check-pvp.fr/us/Kel'Thuzad/Shroomzy

[severe skiff]

kind of already do

and I think tier is going to make the sharpened blade build the better build honestly

which cuses exhil blows too

[thorn herald]

i forgot battlelord was getting another 10% buff

thought it was just buffing dreadnaught now

[scarlet barn]

We both know thats not the case 🙃

[grand scaffold]

it wasnt

it was a friend of a friend

super cool guy

[thorn herald]

wtf

[sharp meteor]

I'll help a friend of a friend to Rival but good grief is elite a headache.

[thorn herald]

tide of blood going to be amping SKS damage by 30% now

[grand scaffold]

it wasnt easy

especially because i was playing fury when it was bad

[sharp meteor]

Yeah. Which is why the story is sus.

[grand scaffold]

its all g

[severe skiff]

I didn't see that I thought they were just making it only expire rend and baking deep wounds expire into skullsplitter baseline

[brazen rock]

yup, but only sks

[grand scaffold]

but tbh past s1 i wasnt being carried anymore

[brazen rock]

not the bleeds attached to it or w/e

[sudden barn]

What's better for Arena arms or fury?

[grand scaffold]

atm fury

but

arms is fun af

[thorn herald]

yeah they added a 30% amp to tides of blood and it makes rend expire

[brazen rock]

arms might be better come tueday

[sudden barn]

Or even prot?

I'm just lacking as fury and it's annoying me

[thorn herald]

idk

[whole wraith]

Are there any stat soft caps to be aware of?

[thorn herald]

bleed build def still going to be relevant

with 30% extra damage on sks

wish they would change it to just double the speed at which dots tick so they could unnerf deep wounds

[sudden barn]

What spec is that?

[formal steppe]

what is the best arms build for solo shuffle right now?

[brazen rock]

arms

[brazen rock]

BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSEJEJpUSSAAAAAJEJJQCQENKhEEaSESAkEJAAAAAAAAkgkkIAA

[sudden barn]

How hard is prot to play in arena?

[formal steppe]

wtf im at max talent builds

[sudden barn]

And is it viable

[formal steppe]

how stingy is blizzard with server space holy hell

[brazen rock]

not come tuesday

[severe skiff]

at least a 180 iq required

[sharp meteor]

Not really. Stats should stay roughly the same in value for the foreseeable future.

Vers good, haste good, mastery okay, crit okayish.

[brazen rock]

30%, dont worry about it

[sharp meteor]

(for Fury)

Arms seems a little more flexible.

[brazen rock]

arms is crit >= haste > mast imo

but yes, flexible

[sudden barn]

Can arms duel wield 2h still?

[brazen rock]

no

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, arms probs wants a decent chunk of crit but feels clunk without a bit of haste.

[thick reef]

This isn't WotLK lmao

[whole wraith]

Thanks

[sudden barn]

So dh 1h only

[sharp meteor]

It never could.

[scarlet barn]

Never could

@thick reef

[thick reef]

Wrath they could

[severe skiff]

important to note we get at least 10% haste during our csmash windows from in for the kill, but yeah I like more haste

[sudden barn]

That it could at the end shadow lands

[sudden barn]

I'm new to warrior

[scarlet barn]

It wasnt arms then...

[thick reef]

Arms/Fury

Says more about the tree thoug

[sharp meteor]

ya honestly all stats seem dece for arms

[scarlet barn]

Do you realise how many points you needed for fury to have tg

[thick reef]

No shit Sherlock

[scarlet barn]

Then dont spew nonsense

Smh

[thick reef]

Mad that I'm right lmao

[grand scaffold]

does arms have any self healing atm?

[severe skiff]

impending victory

[brazen rock]

impending victory

and fbv

[grand scaffold]

whats fbv

[brazen rock]

fueled by violence.

[grand scaffold]

fueled by violence?

[thorn herald]

stormwall is better than fbv

[grand scaffold]

oh

[severe skiff]

pain and gain will usually be your second healing

[grand scaffold]

is it good at all

[thorn herald]

fbv is ok

[brazen rock]

god your so boosted

[grand scaffold]

i dont play arms you big asshat

[severe skiff]

stormwall can gain pretty big value vs melee pets like dk since you tend to use parry on apoc windows, demo felguard pet since every demo just afks it on whoever they are hitting anyways

[grand scaffold]

btw

whats your xp

[scarlet barn]

To get to TG
You wouldnt even have enough points to have SS, let alone MS

Can you call that arms? no

[grizzled zinc]

Do I really need to do pve shit to get Primal Chaos?

[scarlet barn]

Some kind of weird hybrid? sure
Then go educate yourself again

https://tenor.com/view/rpx_syria-mic-drop-gif-19149907

[thorn herald]

how does fbv work with imps

[severe skiff]

you get them from the strongboxes you get from arena wins

[scarlet barn]

Called it

[thorn herald]

cause demo locks trigger vulpera racial like mad

and they trigger the MW heal as well

[grizzled zinc]

only one per day?

[severe skiff]

anything that has deep wounds on it will heal you

[brazen rock]

2650 in mop kekw

[severe skiff]

they made it so you get a box every 4 wins

[grizzled zinc]

ahh

[grand scaffold]

in mop?

thats a long ass time ago ngl

[brazen rock]

i quit and moved abroad after mop

[thorn herald]

the vicious cycle of rating in this game

[brazen rock]

came back for legion

[severe skiff]

Fueled actually adds up to a lot of healing, its just not enough to sustain through dampen

[brazen rock]

quit season 1

now we back on warrior

[severe skiff]

I think fueled is better than storm wall in most situations if you have to pick between them

[thorn herald]

i like taking both tbh ork

[severe skiff]

you tend to get stunned on parry, melee get off you, only really get healing from pets

[thorn herald]

i feel like with the removal of sweeping strikes u can go for both now

[severe skiff]

yeah taking both is fine

[thorn herald]

as u need to spend points

[severe skiff]

think they are replacing sweeping with a +5sec talent

[thorn herald]

they are

[brazen rock]

20 sec sweeping strikes lmao

[thorn herald]

id rather live then have a 20 second sweeping

[brazen rock]

if they dont nerf sweeping down to 10

[thorn herald]

they wont

pve stuff

[severe skiff]

we're also getting a free point by valor of victory becoming a 1 point node

[thorn herald]

absolute travesty, that they swapped battlelord with bloodletting

so VoV doesnt chain into battlelord

[severe skiff]

With the dreadnaught increase, the +10% higher chance to reset MS

tier set crit bonuses

and all the MS buffs

we're going to be spamming the shit out of ms

[brazen rock]

35% battlelord is hawt

[severe skiff]

and its going to hit hard

[thorn herald]

yeah

shame we never got that old legion talent that caused ms to heal

:^)

[grand scaffold]

also the 2x mortal strike talent

that was fun

[severe skiff]

we still have that sort of its just a reset instead of a proc

[thorn herald]

mortal combo was nice i do wish EB was combo

but oh well

[grand scaffold]

idk

the old one was better imo

[severe skiff]

of course

it was free and didn't cost a global

[grand scaffold]

yeah

[brazen rock]

what arms truly needs

[thorn herald]

and copied OP buffs i think

[brazen rock]

is 1/2 global overpower

[grand scaffold]

idk why they didnt just leave it in the game like that

[sudden barn]

2h sword or mace

[brazen rock]

pick secondaries

[thorn herald]

mace is crit on honor sword is haste

[sudden barn]

What's better for fury?

[brazen rock]

haste.

[thorn herald]

haste

[sudden barn]

Ok

Ty

[brazen rock]

[thorn herald]

enjoy it til conq

lol

[onyx vale]

mortal combo was obviously better but it's probably good it's gone, it didn't bring any gameplay and it kinda forced mortal strike to not hit super hard since you would just randomly cast a second one

the animation was kinda cool tho

like survival hunter having different animations for mongoose bite

[formal steppe]

how do i play the standard arms build in shuffle? just open with everything and cc shout and rinse and repeat?

or is there something special this time

compared to shadowlands season 1

also do we never go into defensive stance?

[severe skiff]

Dealing damage is pretty much the same as SL, you generally going to use your CC defensively most of the time

and pre Dstance a stun is still good, wont save you but you'll feel nice

should never be in dstance when dealing damage tho

unless you have no other choice but in that situation being in dstance isn't what's going to save you

[grand scaffold]

is fury running crit or mastery after haste

[formal steppe]

ok lets see how it goes 0 crit almost full mastery

[full quiver]

What happened to ndogolock

[formal steppe]

i guess when i crit now i do giga damage

[full quiver]

Demo like best spec in game right now

[grand scaffold]

the nerf on teusday has made me depressed

1 min interupt cd

D:

[full quiver]

Yeah but it's still an unkillable brick wall

Lol

[severe skiff]

isn't axe toss still like a 30sec cd?

[grand scaffold]

also feel like playing warrior again

[grand scaffold]

yeah

but 1 min interupt still cringe

[full quiver]

Lol

[lucid walrus]

you can buy em too

5k honor

[severe skiff]

having two axe tosses, an interrupt and coil is cringe

[sharp meteor]

The spec shouldn't even have kick tf

[full quiver]

Should make axe toss not usable in stun

[sharp meteor]

You've got two axe tosses and coil with a passive ms

[grand scaffold]

NOOOOOOOO

thats gonna kill the spec 100%

[full quiver]

Should be like hunter stun

[lucid walrus]

it won’t

[full quiver]

I want the spec dead kek

[lucid walrus]

demo can get shot out back unless i’m playing it ngl

[severe skiff]

Nothing brings me more joy than getting 7~ stacks of thunderfist on my monk because a demo lock enables it while having 50%+ haste to just burn through them

[full quiver]

Lol

[amber harness]

what upgrade order is smart?

[lucid walrus]

(he actually is)

[grand scaffold]

so it crit or mastery after haste for fury

[lucid walrus]

mast prob

[amber harness]

I planned 1 conquest weapon 1 token weapon but I assume arms gonna be meta

[full quiver]

Go off sis

[lucid walrus]

💅

[full quiver]

Lol

[grand scaffold]

is gushing wound that useless?

[lucid walrus]

idk is it

[severe skiff]

you have a talent that increases your bloodthirst crit rate

and reck

applying gushing wounds isn't a problem

[grand scaffold]

oh ok

cool

[lucid walrus]

unironically though it’d be worth checking murlok

[formal steppe]

anyone already spending their conquest or all saving it just in case?

[amber harness]

stuff behaves weird in pvp bleed from gushing wound kinda strong

[grand scaffold]

murlok says haste>mastery also

[severe skiff]

pretty sure the only people who spent conquest are the ones who cheesed trophies and bought 421 weapon this week

[lucid walrus]

i thought it was a question of crit or mast

not haste or mast

[amber harness]

haste for slaughterhouse buff

[grand scaffold]

yah

[formal steppe]

when i change spec my solo shuffle resets?

[lucid walrus]

yup

[formal steppe]

oh well then i continue my prot adventures for now

[lucid walrus]

it’s mostly a change for hybrids’ sake but it’s cool imo

[formal steppe]

i guess prot is my warmup spec now and for limit testing

for real people will abuse this to use one spec to grief

[lucid walrus]

doubt it tbh

seems like it’d only be an issue in the rat leagues

[formal steppe]

its basically a smurf but without any effort to set it up

thats always bad

[lucid walrus]

nobody’s gonna take the effort to climb to meaningful rating just to troll

and if they do everyone’ll be getting fucked equally

[crude bane]

30 min + soloQ and this is the Weekend

nice

[formal steppe]

blizz also doesn't care for the tank shortage in dungeons which is a direct result from the comically low demand for tanks in raids, i doubt they will ever fix the healer population in shuffle

[crude bane]

time to quit

waiting diablo 4

[full quiver]

They're literally actively working on it and just did updates related to it??

[crude bane]

healer just get 2K rating now they sit and dont Q

cause they afraid to lose CR

[grand scaffold]

is solo shuffle rating and normal arena rating the same or different

[formal steppe]

they never fixed tanks in pve, theyll never fix healers in pvp

[gritty salmon]

The 130 rage talent is a good benefit for slaughterhouse nerf

[formal steppe]

slapping a call to arms box on it will do nothing

[lucid walrus]

in what sense?

[grand scaffold]

like elite

duelist

rival

[lucid walrus]

they have the same reward breakpoints but shuffle has diff rewards at the top end

[grand scaffold]

stuff like that

[lucid walrus]

i.e. no glad mount or title and its own r1 title

duelist still 2.1 and elite still 2.4 etc though

[grand scaffold]

oh

cool!

[lucid walrus]

solo r1 title actually just got changed

from crimson soloist to crimson legend^^

[severe skiff]

Solo que is getting a glad like title as well, Simply just "legend"

crimson legend being the r1 solo que title

[formal steppe]

they give solo a temporary seasonal title

no one cares for that shit

it needs a glad mount

[severe skiff]

solo que isn't and wasn't meant to be a replacement for actual arena

[scarlet barn]

Not true

its actually healers now that are in high demand

👀

[lucid walrus]

oh i never saw this

that’s awesome

[sharp meteor]

there's no tank shortage in keys

just pug keys lmaooo

[onyx vale]

there is

i always play tank cuz i know no tank

[lucid walrus]

don’t we also have the best all-round tank spec rn?

[severe skiff]

This primal fire enchant is great

[onyx vale]

which isn't so bad when arms sucks so much in pve

[severe skiff]

gives me hope that this seasons pvp enchant wont suck total ass

[lucid walrus]

i actually kinda like the tabard this season

[severe skiff]

yeah the tabard looks good

[lucid walrus]

lots of people hating on it

all i ask going forward is that the design changes like legion’s tabards would

[severe skiff]

I think its pretty safe to assume

its going to be the same tabard

and the red is going ot change to bronze, green and blue

[scarlet barn]

delusional players

smh

[lucid walrus]

unfortunately yeah :(

[thorn herald]

cant wait to use it on artifacts

lol

[formal steppe]

they change their mind constantly, as long as they treat shuffle as a neglected stepshild with shit rewards queue time will be high

[severe skiff]

Safe to assume we are getting a fire enchant this season due to it being crimson, hope its on par or better than primal fire

[scarlet barn]

You have lot of hot takes Adrenalin

[sharp meteor]

Just make it glorious tyranny but fire.

[scarlet barn]

for today

[teal cedar]

does upgrading your pvp gear have any effect in pvp - or is it just to help keep up for pve content?

[sharp meteor]

No.

Just pve.

[severe skiff]

solo que has every reward that arena does except the mount

it has enough rewards lol

[teal cedar]

poo & thanks

[brazen rock]

lmao solo que glad

get bent

[sharp meteor]

There's so many rewards from arena this season especially 2400 lmaoo

tabard transmog elite weps glad full pve upgrades aaaaa

[onyx vale]

solo queue already has a better title

[brazen rock]

nope

shouldnt and wont

[sharp meteor]

i think they could do a budget glad for shuffle

like armored ground mount

[onyx vale]

you can have a mini pet glad mount if you behave

[sharp meteor]

they could do glad and shuffle glad at 2700 tho good grief it's gonna be so free

[onyx vale]

[crude bane]

why they put solo title when you just cant even q

[full quiver]

Got Mr negative in here lmao

[onyx vale]

solo queue doesnt need more dps

[full quiver]

Gsme is sick right now

[onyx vale]

it needs to be less miserable for healers

and a mount aint going to do it, chief

[crude bane]

healer have to b better

fr

they just afking pve

and stop q

cause they do none

its logner to solo shuffle rather than find a tank and raid

[sharp meteor]

Can make a few thousand gold in profs or mog runs while waiting for queue pop.

[full quiver]

Make it let you queue 2s and 3s without limiting ur time in shuffle

So it'll alert you "next in queue" and you can pauses 2s session after game you're in or something

[crude bane]

imagine i stoped pve cause its time consuming

[severe skiff]

I'm all for shared ques but why do you want to que solo if you're already playing arena with partners lol?

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/181defc1eea755a1ef765b5aaf35c1b9

could have done a key

[lucid walrus]

i think solo glad should award a battle pet completely unrelated to the real mount or the season/xpac’s theme

[crude bane]

even the beta was faster

i cba

[full quiver]

I think it should give a mount

And make it at 2700 or something

Since shuffle is inflated

[lucid walrus]

do y’all just not play the game while you queue?

[crude bane]

im watching adds on twitch

[lucid walrus]

hit some WQs, races, gathering routes, anything really

[severe skiff]

I gather when in solo que

[lucid walrus]

those tuskarr fishing spots are dope

[sharp meteor]

I do everything while in queue.

[formal steppe]

unique illusion would be cool if they dont want glad recolor

[severe skiff]

gold goes up, still don't buy weapon enchants

[sharp meteor]

So true.

[lucid walrus]

trying to make this last like, 20k for a soul trader since the price might appreciate bc of white item transmog

[severe skiff]

started expansion with 3M gold, bought 10 tokens + geared 3 chars, back up to 3M gold, nothing has weapon enchants

t-they'll drop eventually!

feel like its the titan orbs that are going to keep them from dropping as fast as they should

[formal steppe]

dont you all have millions of gold still from the boosting fiesta in bfa

[severe skiff]

I never boosted

my legion class hall/bfa emissary/SL emissary funds

[lucid walrus]

i was like 15 and didn’t see the point in farming it

gotten most things i’d wanna buy for insanely cheap since then though

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, but I'm stingy.

[formal steppe]

im just glad i bought the bruto

legit would have been so grief to not do that

and is really unfair for new players

[sharp meteor]

Weird decision by them to remove it.

[full quiver]

10 tokens wtf lol

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[severe skiff]

should of specified that bought 10 tokens with gold lol

not bought them and sold for gold

[full quiver]

Oooh

Lmao

[crude bane]

well

solo is just focus healer i guess

35 Min to some1 qui game 6 wat a surprise

quit

[urban skiff]

Guys i figured out how to beat warlocks

run around pillar, stack death wish to 10

[crude bane]

rerolling one ?

[urban skiff]

keep kiting

[brazen rock]

yeah and on tuesday

run a train on them

[undone pumice]

should i still go gym with a cough and fever

[wheat jay]

will other dudes get sick because of you?

[undone pumice]

i be coughing like a dk jsut touched me

[wheat jay]

imo dont then

to not be a dick 😄

[undone pumice]

thank you curl andy

[urban skiff]

with a cough? sure. With fever? stay home

Recovering faster matters more for long term gains than sweating and gassing out at 65%

[brazen rock]

no

[clear pine]

guys i need help as fury, i lose all solo shuffle today because my mates die. i am never focused. how can i peel better?

[urban skiff]

hit harder

warrior cc = killing something

[onyx vale]

you press intervene

[clear pine]

im always top 3 dps. i should use intervene more yes ty

4 games to 1500 rating now back to 1200 LOL

[urban skiff]

what are you losing to?

If you don't know, I recommend picking up REFlex addon

[clear pine]

arms, shadow, assa

Arms is always doing way less damage then me or other furys, but man they win always >3 rounds

i could always rego as arms and start new rating

[urban skiff]

you should

see how it feels

[torn kite]

is it fury or arms for pvp

i thought maybe the arms changes might make it close, but have yet to see anything confirmed

[merry valley]

Why the f does icy veins recomend Sophic over Frozen Devotion?

[eternal iron]

idk but it fucked me on my professions

this is why i avoid icyveins

Also, are yall just saving for 2 weapons (If fury) or whats the most efficient strategy here

[thick reef]

im an idiot and spent my conquest on alacricty trinket and a ring this week am i gonna be hurting when people get their weps lol

[spice hornet]

Lol

Pray you get it in the vault

Then buy the other 2h with the trophies

[brazen rock]

^

or play arms next patch like a real chad

[thick reef]

man i want to

[brazen rock]

who cares

play with SP

[thick reef]

we'll see how it is i guess

[brazen rock]

get carried

if they focus him you global somebody eventually

[eternal iron]

theyre both crit vers tho

which is my hestitation ong etting the wep

[thick reef]

whens the soonest you can get a concentrated primal infusion

went hammers in blacksmithing made a 2her

has haste/mast on it

[eternal iron]

a pvp one that scales?

[lucid walrus]

yeah that sounds like dog for pvp

[thick reef]

itd be 418 which is better than the 411 offhand no?

[lucid walrus]

to answer your question though i have no idea. prob soon

[thick reef]

+embelishment

[lucid walrus]

funky stats and i’m p sure conq weapon scales to 421 or so

[spark grotto]

should i be taking crit or mastery from the gear pieces that dont have haste?

[lucid walrus]

i say “funky stats” but we’ll probably have more vers than we know what to do with anyway, that weap doesn’t sound too bad

[spark grotto]

as fury i mean

[brazen rock]

mast

[thick reef]

im at about 20% vers and basically everything i have on is haste/vers except a couple with mastery

only really releveant cause i wasnt thinking and didnt save for 2her or w.e

wish you needed something other than spark to make the epic boots/helm so you didnt have to choose between making a pve or pvp item

[lucid walrus]

it’ll work out alright, just a timegating thing for now

quite possible you get lucky w/ vault also

[thick reef]

yea

[urban skiff]

didn't they nerf drop rate of jewelry in vault? does it carry over to SL?

DF*

[tardy dirge]

nice bike bruv

[brazen rock]

ty bruv

[mild thunder]

does exe damage feel super inconsistent as arms for anyone else? feelslike it either hits like the wettest noodle, or 35-0s people in one global

[brazen rock]

its quite strange yeah

ive hit 30k executes then next global hit 80k

soon to be 33k and 88k 🦫

[mild thunder]

i guess its probably because of all our crit modifiers? base damage is probably tuned somewhat low to take that into account

[brazen rock]

or even higher actually cuz conq weapon

probably, but in pvp dont we only get up to like 195% or something?

[mild thunder]

outside of spear, yea

it also feels kinda weak in pve tbh

its also kinda tuned with Juggernaut in mind

[brazen rock]

sadly

[mild thunder]

yea its a rip... arms being the exe spec for raid is super fun and thats its niche, but it does have negative consequences for arms pvp

[brazen rock]

with how fast theyre tuning im hopeful.

[mild thunder]

also arms is still only like the 3rd or 4th best exe spec lmao

[tardy dirge]

i feel thats standard for arms though ive hit a 117k mortal strike and backed it up with a 120k exe but then ive hit fuck all most of the time

[brazen rock]

clearly they dont want fury to be the star of the show.

[mild thunder]

true, the tuning is defs nice

[void hamlet]

the fury rotation for annilater, is it just keep pressing bloodthirst and bloodbath till rampage or execute, if so i dont need slam on my bar?

[brazen rock]

yes

[mild thunder]

you want slam on your bar, but generally you wont use it

[brazen rock]

can use slam to gen rage in weird instances your short

[mild thunder]

except in your opener

[void hamlet]

whats the opener

[urban skiff]

joke's on you. I don't execute iether

[mild thunder]

you dont have access to bloodbath in the opener, so you're gonna use whatever else you need to (i.e. slam, ww) to generate your first rampage

otherwise you sit there waiting 2s between every bt

[void hamlet]

ok that makes sense thank you\

[undone pumice]

if u take odyn enrage u can skip that shit

[urban skiff]

just macro everything together

death wish too

and group up with spriest so none of that matters

[mild thunder]

still probably a waste... better off building up a rampage so you can use OF and reck to generate back to back rampages

[main urchin]

Until this xpac I only played arms since vanilla

Interesting change... Kind of miss arms a bit though.

[mild thunder]

just play arms

its more than viable

[delicate bronze]

[main urchin]

Ya I'm fiddling with both for sure.

Still need to figure out what my conquest and even my sparks are for... I guess head and boots?

And save for weapons

[mild thunder]

yea, craft head and booties

pray for weapon from vault, if you dont have streamer luck go ahead and buy it week 2

and buy spark stuff for whatever you dont get from vault

[undone pumice]

2

week 2

do not buy a one hander

[sharp meteor]

bout to buy two 1hs and beat people with my fishe

[delicate bronze]

anyone share solo shuffle arms build pls

[main urchin]

They fix solo shuffle yet? Queue times have been oddly long

[mild thunder]

yes mb

thats what i meant 😆

[main urchin]

I need to get around to locking in on some rbgs that's always my preference.

Been away this week mostly for family Christmas stuff

[zenith marlin]

Swear every clown class has an immunity

[timid kiln]

Damn just realized furry got nerfed

How big is that

I feel like its big since we still squishy and barely survive

[lean burrow]

fury is dead

[sharp meteor]

IT's not broken it's just that nobody plays heals

[brazen rock]

its not great for fury

[main urchin]

A new last day or so nerf?

[brazen rock]

warpaint is only 5% now in pvp

instead of 10%

basically aura +5% dmg taken for fury

[main urchin]

Ah

[simple rock]

people still leaving solo shuffle games on round 6...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wm3ytUHrJQ

[celest wave]

yo does my dmg breakdown for arena/shuffle look normal or am i scuffed? https://i.imgur.com/he5HoBK.png

[brazen rock]

you pressed bloodbath twice?

[timid kiln]

so is arms the go to now

[brazen rock]

for 3s maybe

its really hard to say rn

[celest wave]

6 cast lul

[timid kiln]

Fury might still be decent in 2’s i hope

[brazen rock]

arms durability is still ass but damage is pumpin

fury durability is still good and damage is aight

[delicate bronze]

can you give me your arms build pls?

[celest wave]

think tay has a video doesnt he

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwLwzhgm_qE&t=418s

[delicate bronze]

thx ill check this out

[brazen rock]

100% it has unhinged so its ass

BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSEJEJpUSSAAAAAJEJJQCQENKhEEaSESAkEJAAAAAAAAkgkkIAA mine

yup unhinged and fbv

lmao

[thorn herald]

unhinged is good vs solo targets

[crude bane]

ah nice a rogue just evaded and killed me cause i play war ^^

[celest wave]

idk how bad can tay be X

d

[steep inlet]

He is just multi R1

:)

[celest wave]

ye so seems good enough

[spark zenith]

Arms or fury if one wanted to try for 2400

[urban skiff]

1290 rating now

[delicate bronze]

anyone have a focus intervene macro?

[urban skiff]

use [@focus,help] [] intervene

[flat dome]

I could see fatality being strong

[delicate bronze]

thx

[flat dome]

With enough stacks it's an automatic one shot when the target hits 30% unless they immunity.

[simple rock]

genuine question: are they putting lower mmr healers into higher mmr solo shuffle games to help fill? haven't kept up with all the shuffle changes

[urban skiff]

what's a good partner for braindead mongo cleave if you're a dumbass stuck at 1200 rating?

[zenith marlin]

WW kekw

[brazen rock]

ret, enh

[urban skiff]

am playing with enh

[stiff dust]

hi guys, as arm warrior we're looking for x3 versa/crit on the necklace ?

[urban skiff]

getting steamrolled by all the tryhards playing heal comps

[zenith marlin]

healers are disgusting

[urban skiff]

give me a checkbox "don't play with healers" any day

or start healer games out at 99% dampening

[crude bane]

why my healer turn 0 iq in my team

[spice hornet]

Seems like it, my healer partner was complaining he’ll be 2200 mmr and get 1900 healer and if doesn’t win at least 5 he loses rating lol

[celest wave]

what pvp talents do u like on arms?

im guessing its just sharpen core and rest flex

[zenith marlin]

they must

make horrified break with dmg

is so fkn stpuid

[spice hornet]

They’re nerfing it by a second tbajfukly

Very annoying talent

[brazen rock]

yup

[celest wave]

yeah the rating gains are so weird

[brazen rock]

sharpen disarm are core tbh

[zenith marlin]

btw I got sharpen break like:

#showtooltip Mortal Strike
/cast Sharpen Blade
/cast Mortal Strike

[celest wave]

3 people went 3-3 in a solo shuffle game and 1 guy was 10 rating lower than the others who went 3-3

[brazen rock]

you lose vs other melee auto without

[zenith marlin]

and it works

but idk if its ideal

[spice hornet]

You want to sharpen strategically

[celest wave]

and the guys who werent 10 rating lower got 0 rating, the guy 10 rating lower got 140 rating

lmfao

[spice hornet]

Not mongo with randomly

[zenith marlin]

if I am mortal striking a mf

[celest wave]

u htink warbringer is ever a take on arms?

[spice hornet]

Yeah shuffle rating is a joke

[zenith marlin]

i want it ded

xd

[celest wave]

yeah imma just fucking play 3's at this point

need to get my healer friend to gear honor tho :susge

[spice hornet]

1800 shuffle is like 1200 regular

[simple rock]

warbringer is great as arms now that you always have double time. usually take sharpen, warbringer, and banner/disarm/bladestorm

disarm and banner into rogues

[celest wave]

ok thanks boys

new to melee pvp/warrior/ pvp in general so the answers help a lot

[tawny river]

hit a 80k execute in soloQ today

gimme those buffs already

[zenith marlin]

1800 shuffle as a healer is like unranked

xd

[crude bane]

i swear

they 0 cc bad position prevent 0 burst

they just afk AOE healing

and die

so much fun

[zenith marlin]

we wait 30 mins for a healer to show up

only to burst them down in 15 secs

[crude bane]

XD

solo shuffle is catpiss

imagine i resub after 4 years for that

instant unsub

[zenith marlin]

they should just make it like skirmish

so no queue time

[crude bane]

they should remove it

and learn from Malaco coding

soloqing for like 6 years now or more

[soft dagger]

Then he had high MMR before that game

It’s not that complicated people think the rating gains are based off the rating they enter the game with

They’re not. It’s based off your MMR and with shuffle it varies wildly if you go 6-0 two games in a row your MMR boosts like crazy

[uneven turret]

does it matter if i use 1/2 or 3 star materials? makes recraftnig later harder right?

[celest wave]

doesnt matrter if only care for pvp ilvl

[delicate bronze]

is def stance even worth going into?

[zenith marlin]

lmao

arms is fun in 3s

[thick reef]

queued into solo shuffle 10 times now still havent seen another warrior, weird

[zenith marlin]

cuz there are other specs that play more like how a warrior should

can they atleast not nerfl ike

10 of our talents in pvp

[celest wave]

if ur queueing fury, it tries to not put 2 fury in the same game

[thick reef]

ah

[celest wave]

no one really plays arms in shuffle soi

[delicate bronze]

expect me

[celest wave]

if u queue arms ull see fury

a lot

[delicate bronze]

but my queues are long still

[thick reef]

i wasnt sure if it tries to avoid matching same specs

maybe thatd reduce queue times if they scrapped that

[celest wave]

yea well it still needs to find a healer

[thick reef]

i know

[celest wave]

itll regularly put 0 cr healers in games lol

yeah it propbbly world

would

or u can just play offmeta spec

:>

[thick reef]

i had one game had 2 tanks instead of healers + ret + afflic lock and shadow priest was absolute hell

[flat zephyr]

how does glad work for solo shuffle? will you still get the glad drake reskin?

[thick reef]

the titles are Legend and Crimson Legend

not sure about the mount

[floral cradle]

Think it’s all but mount

And dif titles of course

[wheat crane]

Wait how do i make these boots?

The primals are from pvp boxes?

[lucid walrus]

the recipes are

[wheat jay]

No

[lucid walrus]

commission em or win the lottery if you don’t wanna spend a couple wow tokens on the recipe also

[wheat jay]

Glad drake is 3s only

[green wyvern]

no glad in solo shuff

[high creek]

so whens evoker haeling getting nerfed

[lucid walrus]

soon™️

idk why disintegrate got buffed bc that shit trucks

[high creek]

shits wild, took me a year just to kill one in open world

with him /lol and just casting instas

[lucid walrus]

yeah for real

having to rotate kick, reflect and IV just to survive 10 minutes for the sake of ooming a prevoker in 1v1

[wheat jay]

You guys had any games against double evoker?

Preserv + devast

Disgusting how they just drift 24/7 xD

[wooden grove]

They have too much root and snare immunity

[vagrant sorrel]

hamstring never seems to work on those damn dragons

[wooden grove]

Or charge root

Like a Druid

[vagrant sorrel]

I havnt been running that talent

been thinking about switching it in

[lucid walrus]

i get we have bladestorm but i'm really sick of other classes having random spells that grant iframes

meta, evoker strafing stun etc

[wooden grove]

Now consider how many specs have ms

[zenith marlin]

lmao

I got 0% mastery

[bright stream]

U can kinda ignore it to go full haste

[austere crow]

any arms enjoyer can link bis spec for v3 ?

[thick reef]

i feel like Crimson Legends should get access to glad drake or something?

[brazen rock]

no.

[brazen rock]

BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSEJEJpUSSAAAAAJEJJQCQENKhEEaSESAkEJAAAAAAAAkgkkIAA

[zenith marlin]

spriests are a fkn low skill class

[brazen rock]

bro you play fury

[zenith marlin]

I dont see fury having immunity and health switch

they are just caster retri

[brazen rock]

implying enraged regen isn't the best wall in the game

[zenith marlin]

well

xd

[bright stream]

CL will be like 5-15 people per spec it would be fine if they had it. This is just another of your dumb gatekeep opinions

[zenith marlin]

i mean

[brazen rock]

lmao

[zenith marlin]

i do like it

[brazen rock]

really wanna give the solo shuffle kids all the perks eh

[tribal wedge]

gate keeper

[brazen rock]

yup.

[zenith marlin]

hows 30% crit with bstance

28*

[bright stream]

You think that 3s 2400/r1 means a lot more than it does

[brazen rock]

pre gud

cool then get it in 3s

not solo shuffle

[zenith marlin]

eh

[bright stream]

Im chilling for grtting the unlocks Im hunting

[zenith marlin]

there is alot of carrying trough logistics in 3s

forming a team, having good comms etc

[bright stream]

And can still appreciate that ss ~= constructed 3s

[zenith marlin]

solo shuffle is more competetive if it was played more

its all about u

[bright stream]

It has trade offs. As the season goes on we'll see but imo yeah its slightly more competitive

[zenith marlin]

lotta healers rank high in 3s just cuz their dpsers carry them

[bright stream]

Tbh the biggest dif for me is that I can actually engage in it as an Aussie.

Our player base basically dead at any real rating - and playing with Americans not possible if you've got a job. (US play times like 10am til 3pm)

[thick reef]

Unironically calling people queueing something different kids kinda cringe not really any point in taking their response seriously

[wooden grove]

It’s gonna be harder to be that high in solo shuffle than it would be in 3s for sure

[brazen rock]

avg age of dh/assa rogue player

[mild thunder]

There’s zero reason to be giving gladiator mounts to people doing solo shuffle

It’s just a bad take

Give them their own rewards or whatever, not the rewards for real arenas

[mild thunder]

Also, as an oce player, this is just not true. There are a lot of very, very good players in oce that regularly push glad and/or are glad level players that are down to queue.

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what are you talking about? its 12pm on a sunday, in the LFG tool there are two OCE groups, 1 at 0 rating, and 1 at 1500 rating right now.

there are decent players in OCE, but they rarely hit the LFG tool