upper pelican
i got my 1.4 cr parts but still missin the 1.6
#pvp
thick reef
Got MC'd by a priest, instantly got disconnected, and now I can't log back in
good fucking job blizzard, how the fuck has this game breaking shit not been fixed yet
cyan sluice
good fucking job blizzard, how the fuck has this game breaking shit not been fix...
No use crying it's been an issue for like 8 years
fickle forge
Or is he not playing with Drainer anymore?
Eventually he probably will
thick reef
pretty unreasonable to be upset when i lose 22 rating because a spell crashes people's games for almost a decade straight with no fix or adress from blizz
cyan sluice
I mean, yeah pretty much
sly walrus
He’ll get 15 executes in a row ur just jealous
cyan sluice
Raging will not affect the outcome, so why inflict that on yourself and others
lean burrow
Does hunter's tar trap root share DR?
I noticed I got tar trap rooted for 3 sec, bloodraged it and then steel trapped for like 5 seconds
severe skiff
doesn't seem like it, feel like it was always 3sec even after steel trap but maybe remembering wrong
lean burrow
Shouldn't it put root DR after?
I actually don't know if those dr-free ccs are supposed to fully ignore dr
severe skiff
some roots don't share root dr, like unleashed earth shield root
pallid comet
is arms still good for arena?
lean burrow
Arms is 
wooden grove
is arms still good for arena?
2s with a prevoker aren’t completely terrible but that’s because they won’t let you die
Arms kills better and fury stays alive better imo
patent niche
im seeing conflicting info on haste priority for fury war, what do you guys think
drowsy abyss
And staying alive is what makes fury so much better in solo Shuffle and (most) 3s comp.
sharp meteor
im seeing conflicting info on haste priority for fury war, what do you guys thi...
haste good
what else is there to know
fickle forge
Why? Just kill him
thick reef
Arms kills better and fury stays alive better imo
Its burst is a little better and it's sustain damage is worse
thick reef
set feels
It needed to commit to dark shades and black rocks. We ended up with purple boulders which is crap
Did you prot pvp?
wheat jay
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1015941304158531596/1053036243887341568...
Diff shoulders maybe?
wheat crane
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1015941304158531596/1053036243887341568...
Im with any set that matches my wrathfull tabard
quiet pendant
Which conquest piece to buy first ?
wheat crane
Boots need to be bigger tho
steep inlet
yeah thoses shoulder succ
wheat crane
Itd be fine if the boots werent normal sized
magic lotus
Is it still best to save up for weapons first or something else?
wheat crane
https://i.gyazo.com/d2933330829dee2d84b63fcac55441ed.png
Use the mop shoulders from black foundry or w/e
steep inlet
mayb
steep inlet
scarlet sorrel
if you have those. try em:
sage raptor
80k shield charge baybeeeee
quaint snow
what are assa rogues. dude im getting owned by them
sage raptor
I feel that nerf only helped a little tbh
copper hare
Nice that blizzard made sure that all 3 rogue specs are the best in both pve and pvp :)
sharp meteor
rogue just overtuned across the board
everything hits unreal hard
queue into nahj he does like 26k to my teammte all game
wheat crane
what are assa rogues. dude im getting owned by them
Whats the matter you dont like getting hit by 16k garrote ticks
crude bane
im starting to q with 10-30 1K1 rating ppl
outer elk
Man, solo shuffle queues are insane, I haven't managed to play a single game yet. Then I hear that healers are insta queue so i log on prevoker and still 20-40 mins and no pop...
pastel rain
does that pvp gear scale in the open world doing quests?
pastel rain
bruuuuuh
craggy cloak
Which you can increase to a point
proven maple
Rend got nerfed to 3k ticks. While garrote can solo people in one press at almost 20k ticks. Blizzard loves rogues. S-tier every season
sharp meteor
Rend got nerfed to 3k ticks. While garrote can solo people in one press at almos...
probs wanted to avoid skullsplitter killing people from half health
ancient dirge
Solo queue would be pog if I could ever play it
stuck mulch
do u guys use dismantle against dh?
elfin surge
wheat crane
stuck mulch
<:Arms:592471950278787080>
go stream so i can learn more
elfin surge
stream deez nuts
stuck mulch
stream deez nuts
into yo mom
full quiver
@elfin surge are we good
eternal iron
Wait, you can’t get glad mount with solo shuffle?
steep inlet
no
green wyvern
nope
steep inlet
only 3s
warm portal
do u guys use dismantle against dh?
Only if ur a coward
sharp meteor
Wait, you can’t get glad mount with solo shuffle?
Thankfully not.
stuck mulch
are u a fuckin' rogue in disguise
shhh
copper hare
leaden lynx
if i'm fury, should i set loot spec to be arms to make sure i don't get 1h from vault?
thick reef
I mean, the Dracthyr for both factions appears on Rep pages
thick reef
wish we could at war with certain classes
My brother in Christ, you act like we aren't already at war with every class
urban isle
what do weapon enchants does fury take in pvp?
zenith marlin
i gotta enchant at some point too damn
thick reef
Not this week lmao
fickle forge
Where craft Unity?
leaden lynx
what do weapon enchants does fury take in pvp?
frozen devotion
rare ibex
if i'm fury, should i set loot spec to be arms to make sure i don't get 1h from ...
I always do this. And for m+ as well. When I forget I always proc a 1 hander.
crude bane
im pretty sure there is a bugg for soloQ
was the same on beta even with all player at the same rate
fun fact Q on beta was faster
wheat jay
glad pagoda
why it feels like there is so many people with glad mounts
green wyvern
cus there is
sharp meteor
why it feels like there is so many people with glad mounts
did u play sl
elfin surge
why it feels like there is so many people with glad mounts
shadowlands season 2 was the most inflated season in wow history
sharp meteor
glad was like top 10k in unchained
hard hound
@elfin surge they reset your gear ?
green wyvern
unchained was a disgrace
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> they reset your gear ?
yeah
hard hound
And give back gold ?
elfin surge
yup
thick reef
Oh wow a bit surprised at that
sharp meteor
That didn't take gold away so that's interesting.
glad pagoda
what is unchained
steep inlet
shadowlands season 2 was the most inflated season in wow history
and yet its "rare" compared to playerbase
0,5%
of playerbase
but if u compare to like legion glad mount
it's 0,02%
green wyvern
if you can reach 24 hundo you are a god to 99% of the playerbase
sharp meteor
ya but 90% dont even pvp
at the time unchained glad was roughly top 8-9% i think it was
every game at 2450 was just male elf rets bubbling slows
warriors leap bannering and somehow not hitting their ret with it
steep inlet
yeah i'm happy that i rushed this mount 2 months early in the season
way before inflation
fickle forge
Duelist % was 2.5k or so
stuck mulch
can you have 2 of the same writs on? or do u need one haste and one frozen etc
brazen rock
warriors leap bannering and somehow not hitting their ret with it
pro cursor macros are hard
ok?
dont bully.
sharp meteor
shirtless male orc heroically leaps in to bolt the incorrect target then charges them from 3 inches away anyways
banners and misses his ret and healer
brazen rock
absolute chad move
sharp meteor
(2600 unchained gameplay)
brazen rock
:ez:
sharp meteor
ww just flies in with no port
brazen rock
peak s3/s4 shadowlands gameplay bro
lucid walrus
is it just heavier on vers or what?
hearty horizon
You’re not looking at PVP stat increased honor gear versus vendor conquest gear? I can’t remember if the vendor gear inflates to PVP value
lucid walrus
was gonna say that
leaden lynx
everyone complaining about getting now points for 3/3 and i just got 41 for going 3/3 at 1850 =x
sharp meteor
Ye, generally aspirant gear has a more even split of stats
elfin surge
boy it sure is fun being an arms warrior
sharp meteor
whereas conq is more heavily vers weighted
sharp meteor
boy it sure is fun being an arms warrior
dw they'll bandaid the spec with weekly 3-5% buffs 
rogues tearing up keys, pvp and raids hmm
I mean they are somewhat controlled yes
elfin surge
rogues op in pve too 
sharp meteor
letting somebody stack pure one stat would cause
issues
also it's not like we haven't always had limited options
i think in general the vendor needs
more mastery pieces
brazen rock
boy it sure is fun being an arms warrior
bro arms buffs inc
run away with 200k ms crits
just gotta live long enough to get off a few globals kekw
fickle forge
BoP --> Send it
junior kelp
is rend actually worth taking on arms if you arent taking any other bleed talents?
didnt think so, lots of the guides are saying to take it tho
elfin surge
elfin surge
@knotty atlas PIN
junior kelp
how would something like this be for solo shuffle? i get all the good bleed talents minus the weird skull splitter package and instead i grab fatality and battlelord for some consistent damage and a nice bursty execute phase
junior kelp
why run roar if you arent running rend tho? wouldnt spear be better
junior kelp
i have another build where instead of going the bleed build i grab executioners precision and sharpened blades
lucid walrus
sharpened is fun
laros is running unhinged rn for some reason. pseudo-kyrian setup w/ spear+EM and that ig
junior kelp
that one feels good but i like the idea of this bleed one. lots of haste and mastery and just bleed people out until they get low then toss em in the frier
lucid walrus
my haste blows or else that'd sound tight
junior kelp
i have all the honour gear lol
i can mix and match every stat so i could try all the different builds
lucid walrus
how would something like this be for solo shuffle? i get all the good bleed tale...
no massacre here rattles me really bad
cinder lake
Best weapons enchants for fury warr guys?
lucid walrus
frozen devo
cinder lake
like on both wep? @lucid walrus '\
junior kelp
massacre feels a bit weird with fatality sometimes, since the cut off is 30% sometimes im executing before the window and then i need to execute again and sometimes i dont have a ton of rage to dump for max burst damage. its not bad at all but the extra ms damage feels really nice with all the resets i get
lucid walrus
like on both wep? <@177951993141133312> '\
dno for sure
https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/3v3 shop for a setup you like here maybe
lucid walrus
massacre feels a bit weird with fatality sometimes, since the cut off is 30% som...
mmmmmm that's a good point actually
junior kelp
id say try it, if you prefer or are just used to massacre id say use it. im not an expert im just kinda picking stuff that feels good. I just want some input from better players to know if it actually is good or if im wasting my time
brazen rock
its not.
lucid walrus
it really isn't
scarlet sorrel
70% slow vs 50% slow
brazen rock
howl 12 yard range
scarlet sorrel
its not redundant at all
junior kelp
idk what i would drop for 5% speed tho, maybe concussive blowies?
13 second kick feels great tho
especially if i kick a heal when they are low and i can get a boosted fatality execute chef kiss
junior kelp
no fear? O.o
lucid walrus
ah. that's sketchy
onyx vale
junior kelp
sometimes its all u need tho
big fear after they do some stuff and they cant cleanse it then bingbangboom on their face
scarlet sorrel
its like our strongest offensive/defensive utility to force trinkets
lucid walrus
^
scarlet sorrel
like the only thing we can force trinkets with
lucid walrus
being able to run a 10 second cc chain by yourself every 3rd stun is crazy
on top of defensive utility etc etc
scarlet sorrel
you can also use it as another interrupt as well if you need it for a kill
it has so many uses
lucid walrus
i've done that. not my proudest moment
junior kelp
if there was a solid throughput talent to take instead i might consider dropping it. but idk none of the other options seem nearly tempting enough
onyx vale
it also allows you to survive 3 seconds longer vs rogues
int shout is one of our best spell
junior kelp
like if i had to pick fear or spear then i might consider swapping, but i love the fear so much
ive gotten more confortable with more buttons recently so ive been taking as many cds as possible lol
i realized i could use shift and ctrl mouse buttons as additional buttons recently and im ashamed to say it took this long, but my lord does it feel great
glad pagoda
whats the deal with belt?
junior kelp
its not so much as being reliant on them as its another tool you have to use. Sometimes you get these situations where a fear just annihilates the enemy team and single headedly wins you the match. other times it just plays a part in helping you win by taking trinkets, letting you full stun later or get the enemy to blow big cds of their own
being able to trade a fear for a defensive or something like that is big
copper hare
fear doesn't do dmg 
glad pagoda
why people get belt with trophy of stripe upgrade?
leaden lynx
thats a good idea, i want 50k fears plz
copper hare
you only have slam on your bars then?
lucid walrus
that's what i mean yeah
wheat jay
Arena is about Control at higher level
lucid walrus
i don't chug enough soy to play fury
wheat jay
Lmao
wheat jay
whats your page btw?
Onlyfans?
junior kelp
what else would i be asking for??
lucid walrus
idk whether to frame something like demo as having basically no cds or all cds
that entire spec is just juggling for boomers
junior kelp
idk whether to frame something like demo as having basically no cds or all cds
no fun
wheat jay
guys guys.. ive somehow crawled out of elo hell
Cr check?
stuck mulch
Cr check?
its still low but beter than 1300, and i actually gain rating even with just 3 wins now
junior kelp
wait if i cast warbreaker with a big haste build in the middle of a demo lock's caca, do i just perma heal everything with fueled by violence 
wheat jay
Oh solo shuffle
lucid walrus
probably
stuck mulch
yea its abit of a struggle sometimes 
lucid walrus
wait if i cast warbreaker with a big haste build in the middle of a demo lock's ...
it's kinda unfortunate that deep wounds damage doesn't budge much when you pump mastery
junior kelp
it's kinda unfortunate that deep wounds damage doesn't budge much when you pump ...
infact, i would go as far as to say it is quite fucking stupid that mastery doesnt make the bleed better lol
junior kelp
mastery ONLY affects the % bonus damage from deep wounds. if you want the bleed to be stronger you need haste
brazen rock
"que pops, cunt leaves at round 5"
stuck mulch
1800 is so free
im trying, but i was stuck in the elo hell that was i got into games lower rating than i was... so even with 4 wins i didnt get rating
but im out now
jinx
lucid walrus
gj dragging yourself out
gear equalization just means that you have to outplay or outclass people now so nice work there
stuck mulch
yea im very new to warrior and im still feeling out the classes on who to go for
junior kelp
i got 1500 on my dk pretty easily, but idk what build i really should be running in solo bolo
on my warrior*
stuck mulch
i actually had that last game... a shaman left when he had 0 wins at 5 rounds and i got 4
wheat jay
Fast glad then back to other games to have fun again
brazen rock
leavers should get conquest cap deducted perm
stuck mulch
truee
brazen rock
or 24 hour deserter
stuck mulch
naah 24 they just go to bed and do some m+
junior kelp
they should lose a finger 
stuck mulch
thats almost every que
junior kelp
1 dodge = -1 finger
stuck mulch
jovial meteor
I play arms tho, so less survivability
junior kelp
but the racial only affects stuns, so you can still get incapped, blinded blahblahblah
lucid walrus
why dwarf and not DI?
wheat jay
Or dark iron
junior kelp
but then you're short
lucid walrus
thought DI was straight up better
wheat jay
Dont remember which one has better racials xD
wheat jay
but then you're short
But you live
lucid walrus
dark iron has that primary stat thing for each debuff it cleans
lucid walrus
but then you're short
yeah so what i swapped goblin
junior kelp
whats the point in living longer if you're just gonna be short smhhhhh
lucid walrus
i forgot that not taking massacre means i don't have to do the dumb 2 year long condemn anim
based
jovial meteor
This has taken a turn
jovial meteor
Am I running the health or cc trinket
wheat jay
whats the point in living longer if you're just gonna be short smhhhhh
Stop with body shaming or we'll get nuked again
wheat jay
Am I running the health or cc trinket
Depends
lucid walrus
sounds like a you decision my man
glacial cargo
<:critcake:984549832511344640> its still low but beter than 1300, and i actually...
anyone with a higher rank?
lucid walrus
BM could be nice into something w/ big 2min cds like ret
junior kelp
double dps trinket feels great with all the extra haste
lucid walrus
ah yeah honor badge is haste right?
junior kelp
but if you wanna be a a little safer id grab the hp trinket
hp boost your max hp and lets your other heals even stronger
impending victory, bitter immunity and rallying are all percentage based. so the more hp you have the better they are. You'll be pretty tanky with all that
lean burrow
Am I right in thinking storm bolt should go on dps if it's sustain/setup based specs, and on healers if it's dot-based dps?
tender kettle
so with arms pvp, The wowhead build doeosnt have beserkers rage or stormbolt, is there any better build out there ?
just feels weird to not have those
wheat jay
Am I right in thinking storm bolt should go on dps if it's sustain/setup based s...
Depends
junior kelp
their build also has rend and no other bleed talents
which is why i asked about that earlier
lucid walrus
so with arms pvp, The wowhead build doeosnt have beserkers rage or stormbolt, is...
that build is bait
wheat jay
so with arms pvp, The wowhead build doeosnt have beserkers rage or stormbolt, is...
Dont look at wowhead pvp guides
Always have storm bolt in pvp
tender kettle
i havent pvped in yeears so that is why im asking.
junior kelp
they got pinned so i checked them out
wheat jay
Berserker's rage depends
tender kettle
so icy veins builds are better foor pvp?
<-
brazen rock
so icy veins builds are better foor pvp?
pins.
tender kettle
people*
wheat jay
Icyveins kinda good
tender kettle
Thanks people, haven't pvped on the warrrior since legion so Im kinda out of the loop
copper hare
yeah that is kinda my own fault to not check pins
Nah, can't blame lesser experienced people for looking up guides, it's a shame they don't update stuff or just upload shit to not have an empty page
tender kettle
I just felt something was off with the wowhead one so I had to ask haha, but now I know 😄
lean burrow
I just see other warriors just sb me on cd, while I'm overthinking if I should stun healer instead or not
clever furnace
boiz how good will the lariat neck be at 418 for pvp?
brazen rock
lucid walrus
nominate mave for stormforged.
i doubt we're ever getting another SF again lmao
would be nice
clever furnace
i know it's a pve neck but i'm thinking for pvp it might be pretty good
brazen rock
boiz how good will the lariat neck be at 418 for pvp?
it wont be 418?
clever furnace
will be in a few weeks?
wheat jay
Like sb on big life drains? Any other stuff like that?
All depends on the situation my man
brazen rock
either 405 lariat neck if you burn a primal or 424 conquest neck
steep inlet
Arms
Defensive Stance is now talented by default.
Shuffled the positions of some nodes towards the end of the tree and added some new connections to try and aid the creation of more general builds.
Valor in Victory now only 1 rank and now provides 1% Versatility and reduces the cooldown of Die by the Sword by 30 seconds.
New Talent: Improved Slam – Slam has a 10% increased chance to critically strike and deals 30% increased critical strike damage.
Improved Overpower and Battlelord now also increase the damage of Dreadnaught.
Battlelord’s chance to reset the cooldown of Mortal Strike or Cleave increased to 35% (was 25%).
Skullsplitter now causes Deep Wounds to expire instantly.
Tide of Blood now only causes Rend to expire instantly as Deep Wounds is built into Skullsplitter.
Sweeping Strikes is now baseline.
New Talent: Spiteful Serenity – Colossus Smash and Avatar’s durations are doubled but their damage bonuses are reduced by 50%.
wheat jay
Ye those are big too haha
lean burrow
All depends on the situation my man
copper hare
it wont be 418?
you can get 418 infusions in +16 keys and from mythic bosses as far as I know, I'm banned until monday so I can't confirm lol
wheat jay
<:seramore:917663298869145640>
Fam, I watched Kargish stun mage and he died to priest mindgaming him
It ALL depends
brazen rock
you can get 418 infusions in +16 keys and from mythic bosses as far as I know, I...
Ohh
clever furnace
yeah @copper hare i'm crafting neck anyway.. just not sure what stats for it.. I might do crit/verse for pvp+pve
and just 405 it at first
brazen rock
so 418 lariat vs 424 conq
lucid walrus
brazen rock
hmm
lucid walrus
junior kelp
wait those skullsplitter changes feel... pointless 
wheat jay
<:gladge:963970137701109820> ok
It is what it is my guy
lucid walrus
they'll do anything but make us more durable LMAO
copper hare
Dude, I had to look up the date, I thought it was april fools LOL
wheat jay
EVERYONE BEFORE YOU ALL GO SPASTIC, THOSE ARE ONLY FIRST CHANGES
Not all changes
That will come
lucid walrus
did anyone ever use this build in the first place lmao
crude bane
nice
junior kelp
did anyone ever use this build in the first place lmao
its really fun, but oh boy does it suck so much dick
junior kelp
i mean tactician + exhilarating blows + new battlelord = infinite ms and op?
that sounds good to me
junior kelp
You can already spam ms
yeah i know
lucid walrus
m+ is nice about getting 5 chain exhil procs
junior kelp
its strong but its kinds soft
formal creek
fk im hyped by the changes, now unnerf d stance and we good
wheat jay
No its not
lucid walrus
battlelord's tooltip is gonna be like a 5-minute read by the end of this xpac
wheat jay
It slaps dmg
junior kelp
dies a bit fast, but the damage is definitely there
wheat jay
And does good utility
Mmmm
Doesn't die fast with good healer
And if you use your tools well
junior kelp
i mean...
brazen rock
And arms is a strong spec too
this might actually push arms over the edge
depending where talents line up
junior kelp
no class dies fast with a good healer lol
lucid walrus
really dunno how to feel about this
wheat jay
Well
Let me say it like this
Arms requires more Control over what you do
You cant parry in stun
You can't just be retarded with impending victory
Etc
junior kelp
i feel MUCH bulkier as fury tho
celest wave
yo did we get new patch?
junior kelp
especially with my bleed based build and fueled by violence, i have pretty decent sustain
wheat jay
Cuz fury heals itself
lean burrow
really dunno how to feel about this
probably good against disarming classes
brazen rock
fr though
Shuffled the positions of some nodes towards the end of the tree and added some new connections to try and aid the creation of more general builds.
this can be game changing depending where things line up
we also jsut gained 2 talent points with sweeping baseline and Valor in Victory being 1 talent point
celest wave
sick
brazen rock
battlelord buffed to 35% is actually kinda nuts
crude bane
35 min in q
brazen rock
true
scarlet sorrel
Those changes waaaaat???
celest wave
well ill just wait till the actual good players figure it out 
crude bane
😄
wheat jay
Arms better
brazen rock
battlelord 35%?
wheat jay
Than now
junior kelp
arms feels really smooth to play, i love it
lean burrow
Arms walking to break every other class
junior kelp
just take all the slam talents and go +700% slam damage
brazen rock
So the thing is, these changes are mostly to help arms not be fucked choosing ST or AOE builds.
junior kelp
only button i need is charge and slam 
wheat jay
So the thing is, these changes are mostly to help arms not be fucked choosing ST...
Pve changes
brazen rock
yup, that are spilling into pvp.
brazen rock
fury artifact weapons gonna be poppin
junior kelp
fuck my team
wheat jay
Dont use your shit without any thought
junior kelp
they can figure it out themselves
brazen rock
fury brain speaking
lunar rock
still the best change tho
true
junior kelp
me charge in me hit hard me win game
wheat jay
Root, trap, stun, scatter, silence, root, root, interrupt, scatter back etc
junior kelp
if team want hit hard with me then we win faster
junior kelp
nobody hit harder than me
hard hound
I love the arms change but the issue is to stay alive not the damages …
junior kelp
but you dont need to worry about staying alive if you just kill the enemy
then who is gonna kill u
wheat jay
Yes
Fury is foolproof, arms is not anymore
Value from it is only relevant during rsllying
Whereas rallying can be used to either save team or yourself, all depends on what your enemy does
Its up to you to decide how it should be used in certain situations
hard hound
Lol it’s not new arms struggle to survive atm even with your tool well used
If you die in one go you cant dps
hard hound
Buff damage is good but not enough imo
wheat jay
Nah cant do that in actual games
junior kelp
solo shuffle is real :)
hard hound
Arms is playable in solo if you have good skills , if you are a normal player you just get deleted
mild thunder
still no buffs ro arms defensives 
wheat jay
Pve oriented changes, arms lives there very well
junior kelp
i mean, baseline d stance lets you take another talent that you can use defensively
copper hare
arms is already tanky
woeful solstice
ARMS BUFFS
hard hound
No
woeful solstice
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
hard hound
XD
junior kelp
arms is not tanky, but its not paper mache either
crude bane
healer under 1K8 in solo
mild thunder
arms is kindaaa tankyishhhh against other melee
crude bane
are pur joke
mild thunder
squishy af to casters
crude bane
just focus them
tender kettle
I went with tthe regular build on icy veins, already feels better than the scuffed wowhead one, so ty for the info.
crude bane
i swear they all so bad
lucid walrus
these gutter mmr healers just like, trade standing in the open and cc chaining each other
hard hound
After parry arms cant do anything
neon flame
Talking about tanky, is protection viable in rated BGs? Can’t find any decent builds/rotations other than icy veins stuff…. Seems niche
cinder lake
Are these some fat buffs for arms?
woeful solstice
yeah
glad pagoda
Talking about tanky, is protection viable in rated BGs? Can’t find any decent bu...
he cant heal
without ataking
neon flame
he cant heal
But he can defend/peel teammates pretty well right?
wheat jay
I Hope they will give ignor pain back
Ignore pain > dstance
hard hound
Yeah
brazen rock
Talking about tanky, is protection viable in rated BGs? Can’t find any decent bu...
no, guardian is only tank slot.
hazy isle
Hopefully arms gets ip or better dstance nxt. I feel like they dont wanna do it lol
stuck mulch
did you all see the 10.0.5 ptr stuff for arms?
brazen rock
did you all see the 10.0.5 ptr stuff for arms?
yes
scarlet barn
Dstance maybe will get revisitef
wheat jay
Is too strong
tender kettle
I dont think they willl give us a ability mid expansion.
brazen rock
Ip is not likely
I mean they just gave arms 3 free talent points.
scarlet barn
Ok
brazen rock
dont think them giving a slightly worse IP to arms is out of the question.
scarlet barn
But ip is not gonna happen because then they should give it to fury too
brazen rock
no?
hard hound
Or dstance remake like obsidian scale
stuck mulch
what do you all think of the stuff for arms? never tried the specc so i got no clue
brazen rock
zzz
hard hound
Duration 15 sec damage reduc by 20%
hard hound
1.3 min cd
scarlet barn
Mark my words
hazy isle
Mark my words
Which words we marking?
scarlet barn
But they affect pvp
scarlet barn
Which words we marking?
No IP for arms
hazy isle
No IP for arms
O yea ur probably right
wheat jay
Duration 15 sec damage reduc by 20%
So 2nd parry but worse?
Thats just stupid
Dstance is already strong as it is, its a DEFENSIVE stance that you use when defending, for dmg you have BATTLE stance
Last time y'all had good defensive stance you sat in it permanently
And refused to play like normal human beings
crude bane
wait dh can just retreat it remove disarm
keen umbra
hello, i want to play prot warrior pvp , and i cant find a good guide , anyone can help with ?
brazen rock
🤮
sage raptor
Poor guy. My shield charge hit him for 111k lol
hard hound
So 2nd parry but worse?
It’s just a proposition
scarlet barn
??
lucid walrus
?
glad pagoda
takes forever to get into gameđ
severe skiff
Pretty sure these changes are like a month away if not more, and will prob be more added
idle helm
Guessing weapon is first conquest purchase?
glass sparrow
Did anyoneelse not recieve their elite mog after getting 1800??
brazen rock
buy warmode 2hander for OH
idle helm
gotta prio vault for pve, as im just new to the pvp scene, and enjoying it 🙂
junior kelp
i feel like pvp gear is harder to get than pve gear
idle helm
yeah probably
junior kelp
if you have the option to grab a 2 hander i would 100% take that
pallid tartan
Do the arms nerfs help much? Doesn’t seem like it’ll increase defence much but haven’t played arms a lot
crude bane
they rly have to fix healer MMR
it actually better
since they cant presss any spell
they just afking
midle of the map
cant heal anyone
mild thunder
Skullsplitter now causes Deep Wounds to expire instantly.
Tide of Blood now only causes Rend to expire instantly as Deep Wounds is built into Skullsplitter.
does this seem weird and pointless to anyone else?
brazen rock
it does seem pointless.
mild thunder
it does seem pointless.
no def stance buff or IP, but skullsplitter now expires deep wounds
safe harness
so the infurious warboots is what I should get crafted aye?
lucid walrus
yessir
safe harness
and I can use the lower quaility alloys to save some $$
brazen rock
they do not.
lean burrow
a lot of good changes in new ptr for all classes
seems like blizz stopped being dipshits
like warlock's inquisitor's gaze is now passive, spriest self healing toned down
lots of neat small tweaks
zenith marlin
got notes for em?
zenith marlin
thx
severe skiff
like warlock's inquisitor's gaze is now passive, spriest self healing toned down
What change was there that nerfed shadows sustain/mitigation? they like didn't touch shadow at all.
lean burrow
What change was there that nerfed shadows sustain/mitigation? they like didn't t...
vampiric touch and devouring plague now heal for 30% of damage instead of 50%
severe skiff
that was in a hotfix, they offset that in pvp by removing the healing nerf in pvp
crude bane
and they still unkillable
severe skiff
They were reduced in pvp to begin with, they removed the pvp mod nerf when they applied the pve nerf
crude bane
- next patch mindgames give them insanity so its a buff to SP ehehehehehhehehehehehe
severe skiff
its on live already
those are prob tooltip changes
which usually don't get put in from hotfixes
lean burrow
zenith marlin
"Defensive Stance is now talented by default." omegalul
lean burrow
"Defensive Stance is now talented by default." omegalul
now you can get 15 more max rage
zenith marlin
"Skullsplitter now causes Deep Wounds to expire instantly." are they kidding me
wym "now"
maybe im late
vagrant sorrel
Are you guys gong crafted helm or conq helm?
zenith marlin
reading smth old
lucid walrus
if you have tides of blood, sure
lucid walrus
this just changes the baseline function yeah
no real point to it considering if you're taking sks, you're probably also taking tides
zenith marlin
haha mistweaver nerfs
well jsut coccoon
"The Balance Druid tree has been redesigned." jeez
lucid walrus
wtf i didn't even see that
lean burrow
coccoon? more like
lucid walrus
we're apparently getting some shit thrown around our tree but that sounds diff from what boomy's getting
pallid tartan
😦
I read that they won’t let two of same spec in the same game so if you queue as fury and 6 fury are ahead of you will take 6x as long as if you queued arms
pallid tartan
I’ve never seen another fury so maybe it’s true
crude bane
they do that cause some class are unbalanced
sage raptor
good thing only 4 people are queing as prot
crude bane
KEKW GIGA MONKAS
pallid tartan
Time to level enhancement shaman
wheat crane
Like they just dont get why were not playing arms
crude bane
well im in solo
ripe widget
what´s the 1st item to craft in 10.0?
wheat crane
Arms flops
crude bane
??
wheat crane
Changing our damage around wont stop that
pallid tartan
Oh sorry healer isn’t affected
Healers can go against each other cause so few specs, but never seen two of same dps spec in a game yet
crude bane
so time to play a dead class ?
steep inlet
I read that they won’t let two of same spec in the same game so if you queue as ...
Source ?
Where blizzard said that
pallid tartan
They haven’t but people are noticing some specs have faster queues and never seen same dps spec in game, have you?
pallid tartan
When I battleground it’s like 5 fury but never solo shuffle
muted surge
Would be surprised if they match 5 fury’s in the same solo shuffle
outer elk
almost every game has 2 locks, 2 prevokers or 2 demon hunters heh
wet scarab
TY jesus Double Tap has been removed and has been replaced by Tactical Reload in the Talent tree.
New Talent: Tactical Reload – Aimed Shot and Rapid Fire cooldown reduced by 10%.
coarse dagger
Finally got into a Solo Shuffle, and despite being setup in Fury, it put me in the arena with Arms, but only showed Fury talents. Luckily, I have my PvP build at the top.
coarse dagger
I was the only warrior.
stuck mulch
ye ive been with a arms
coarse dagger
Arms lowkey might be BiS for shuffle.
brazen rock
coarse dagger
A bunch of randoms, just go in and blast.
tough oyster
What's the best build for arena 2v2?
coarse dagger
Sweeping Strikes was a shit load of value for me.
crude bane
you forget something
muted surge
After the 10.5 changes
wheat jay
https://gyazo.com/c36aabc356cf6a71fe5ad3b38637f8d1
What is this negative dmg?
crude bane
you not even close to the best burst as arms
muted surge
Arms gonna be top again
crude bane
- you have 0 tankiness
coarse dagger
Yeah, but I do really like Sharpen Blade.
crude bane
What is this negative dmg?
bro i pressed my burst stop bully
coarse dagger
The only match I lost was when we had a Shadow Priest that forgot to put on PvP gear.
or something. He only had 230k HP for 2 rounds.
crude bane
this monk have 3 mate and a tiger
coarse dagger
did no damage in round 1
wheat jay
bro i pressed my burst stop bully
Hehe
wheat jay
26 seconds of being able to build of test of might <:Pepexecute:5956065252723917...
Doubt it
It will be busted for pve tho xD
wheat jay
True
worthy fern
yea
ripe widget
what´s the 1st item to craft in 10.0? pvp wise
tough oyster
What's the best build for arena 2v2? for fury
worthy fern
@ripe widget booties
brazen rock
What's the best build for arena 2v2? for fury
pins, scroll down to mud
ripe widget
<@608107008805175319> booties
and then?
tough oyster
Thunderous Roar over Spear of Bastion? thats a surprise
mild thunder
26 seconds of being able to build of test of might <:Pepexecute:5956065252723917...
hopefully it doesnt end up being a buggy mess if you get 100% uptime on colsmash
tough oyster
Wrecking Throw, does that still remove bubble like abilities? Or does it just kill the person through it?
brazen rock
damage does not spillover.
junior kelp
it just does damage to shields
shattering breaks bubbles and shit
wreaking is for locks and mistweavers and shit
tough oyster
Wouldn't Shattering be better then?
oh
ok
so swap to shatter for bubble like sht
lucid walrus
wrecking also has no cast time
tough oyster
gotcha
junior kelp
wreaking + demolition = byebye shields
lucid walrus
ball out
drowsy wasp
Is arms finally good after next buff?
mild thunder
Is arms finally good after next buff?
none of the changes really fix arms main issue
woeful solstice
wdym we get basically like 3 free talents now lol
mild thunder
mhmm, and none of them fix the main issue
drowsy wasp
Which is?
mild thunder
being a glass cannon
junior kelp
its not that frail
drowsy wasp
That’s why you have a healer
mild thunder
i didnt realise you had healers in arena, mb
i take it back, arms will be SSSS++ tier
woeful solstice
fury still better in solo shuf
junior kelp
offloading your survivability to some random shmuck isnt a great feeling. but you have a decent about of tools to protect yourself. maybe not as good as other classes but its enough
green wyvern
arms better be one shotting people in .5
mild thunder
offloading your survivability to some random shmuck isnt a great feeling. but yo...
its pretty good against melee, but once you're versing those casters, you feel the squishiness pretty badly
junior kelp
i was able to 2v1 a mage and evoker earlier and it wasnt the WORST.
mild thunder
tbf, if you - arms - are 1v2ing two casters
junior kelp
obviously our main juicy defensive isnt usable, but its not awful
mild thunder
it means they're retarded
junior kelp
mage was already low and they had no combust or main cds
tough oyster
Has anyone anniahlated a warlock with their own chaos bolt by speccing into Rebound (PvP Talent)
just curious
junior kelp
i shit on a spriest with his own rebounded mindgames
tough oyster
just seems like with
you kill the lock so bad they'd need therapy
lol
thats what i get from reading it
anyway
glad pagoda
climbed back to 1700 maybe today
junior kelp
idk how avatar works with it, that could be funny
tough oyster
im just surprised people going Thunderous Roar over Spear
spear just seemed too good for arena
junior kelp
its less about roar more about the bleed boosting talent underneath tbh. both of those combined make it pretty nice
lean burrow
if it was 500% increased damage it'd be decent
junior kelp
the roar itself is nice damage, but the extra damage on your other stuff is real good
tough oyster
fair, i guess fury's mobility makes up for losing the root
junior kelp
the gushing wound boost is also a boost to your survivability
tough oyster
true
severe skiff
Spear is more damage, roar is lower cooldown, lines up with badge (if you play uproar) and more importantly its far easier to cleave with
copper venture
now that 2nd spark is out is it worth putting a work order for the plate helm or nah due to the stats?
severe skiff
It's worth, ilvl boost alone is significant, the bleed proc is actually ok damage
copper venture
thanks!
indigo barn
Hunters can't clear spear anymore yeah?
indigo barn
Pog
sharp meteor
i imagine mw also can't revival?
drowsy wasp
For spear, do you have to use cd first before you spear?
sharp meteor
reck avaa off global so if possible might as well juice the impact
can send all three at once
which also procs odyns
indigo barn
Rek/Ava -> spear -> rampage -> bt -> OF
junior kelp
my favourite spell, onlyfans
indigo barn
spice hornet
i liike how i join a solo shuffle and its an austrailian lobby
just lagging the entire time
latent mountain
what do you guys usually get first week with conquest
sharp meteor
i chill for a few weeks and wait on vaults
lean burrow
i liike how i join a solo shuffle and its an austrailian lobby
every time I played solo shuffle with oce players like -frostmourne
they were the ones to play on NA servers
sharp meteor
what do you guys usually get first week with conquest
also it's either nothing
or get 2h next week
and by nothing i mean chill a few weeks to maybe roll a 2h from box if you aren't immediately pushing
because it sets you ahead bigly on economy if you get from vault
drowsy wasp
I’m short 26 primal chaos, how can I get them fast
stable oasis
is anyone running SMF as fury?
with annihilator, I figured 1h would be a higher dps option
tribal wedge
is anyone running SMF as fury?
nop dmg lose
real shuttle
nop dmg lose
U sure? If you are focusing on ST only
tribal wedge
sure
elfin escarp
Okay so as an Arms warrior main. I can't read and comprehend. Are those 10.0.5 patch notes good for us?
jolly narwhal
I also want to know the general consensus on arms changes. Can’t tell if these are going to be buffs or just ‘changes’
jolly narwhal
Die by the sword talent nerfed
wheat crane
I dk
jolly narwhal
Yeah
wheat crane
Seems like just changes
jolly narwhal
Yeah just seems like changes to me also. Sweeping strikes baseline is good tho
copper hare
Die by the sword talent nerfed
?
wheat crane
The 1 change they seem to refuse to want to make is revert the nerf to dsrance
elfin escarp
Maybe Arms will be a cleaving glass cannon.
jolly narwhal
But that and sweeping strikes free up 2 talent points now
wheat crane
I feel tankier playing fury in zerker stance atm then playing arms in dstance
tribal wedge
it's for sure a up, but not what arms need
elfin escarp
Valor in Victory now only 1 rank and now provides 1% Versatility and reduces the cooldown of Die by the Sword by 30 seconds.
I misread it too.
tame sphinx
bottom pic do be clean doe
jolly narwhal
Wc3 warden mog. That’s cool
fossil mortar
Where it cone from? I been using the toy so far. It is plate ye?
severe skiff
think its all armor type cosmetic unlock, not sure yet
will be coming from the new trading post they are adding next patch
seems like you get a currency for completing certain achievement-like tasks
bunch of transmog/mounts and stuff to buy with it
fossil mortar
Time to grind some boring pve 
severe skiff
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1090652.png icon for a new weapon, Valahallas 2h sword
was a new flail mace, some legion themed weapons
darkmoon jester cosmetic set, blood troll cosmetic set, bloodsail buccaneer set
looks cool
Seems like the icons for season1 pvp tabard/cape are on the patch as well
obtuse musk
what are we enchanting on weapons?
severe skiff
Frozen devotionx2 seems to be the play atm
severe skiff
will go down eventually as more crystals gets put into the system, spiking atm because season just started for everything
fossil mortar
Wait a few days. It will calm down as ppl pump into the market to make their cut of profits
obtuse musk
ya...true
spice hornet
Go work Uber eats for half a day and buy WoW tokens
paper gull
Whats the consensus for fury builds? Annihilator or Raging blow?
paper gull
What about 2's comps?
brazen rock
fury/feral, fury/dk/ fury/ret
youll hit a wall around 1600 of nothing but fotm andys
assa rogue/healer beats any you + any healer you play with for instance, so just try and run them over asap
fossil mortar
Fury and feral feels good. Esp with a great feral. Almost protpally/fury vibes
paper gull
So basically just big dps wins with fury
brazen rock
Basically. As much sustain and damage the class has, dh/rogue just still do more.
And are fucking everywhere in 2s
mild ibex
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/1090691.jpg
Hey is this plate ? Where’s this from ?
How’s everyone doing in solo shuffle. Got to 1950 on my shadow priest , trying to push on warrior soon. 30 min queues don’t help 😡
brazen rock
lmao you got ques?
ive sat for 30 mins at a time probably 15+ times since reset
still 0 cr, played 2 games with leavers both times
mild ibex
Ah yeah that sucks ! I feel you
I wait in Q for 30-40 mins and then friends wanna do M+
Can’t get a good session in at all
It’s demotivating. Constantly torn trying to push 2100 vs grinding it out on the warrior
fossil mortar
M+ is prob more valuable for you, as PvP gear is quite lacking for that content now
livid crown
@slim saffron Is the Fury warrior PVP talent tree on the PVP Builds page supposed to be the same as the Raiding PVE talent setup?
(For Wowhead guide)
brazen rock
<@61282228017041408> Is the Fury warrior PVP talent tree on the PVP Builds page ...
ignore wowhead.