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seems like everyons assass
got to 2200ish mmr and every rogue was assass but nahj outlaw
What 2 enchants yall got
is prot warrior still bad in PvP?
fury blasts still
slaughterhouse is complete trash so it's a bit annoying when your mate doesnt have ms
but aside from that it's pretty good
crit or haste better on weapon for arms?
Fury is the only option
lol jk but yeah playing ret warr
getting butt fucked by shadowpriests
and warlocks
How u guys feeling fury after nerf
Not S-tier, but not gutter. Enjoying it so far.
Shadowplay is so fucking busted
Idk
I cant beat them
Ive tried to train lock every game
is going spriest better?
man i am really struggling to find healers for 3s
anyone know any good LFG discords
i know there is a healer shortage
but ive never seen it this bad
Ill play with you for gold
😐
Has anyone struglled vs sub rogue or is it me only?
God solo shuffle for me is not a good exp so far
I am getting shit on by dhs and devokers so much
Have to sit the whole game in def stance
I can beat anyone but warlocks and shadow priest teams
trophy
Hmm, maybe its just me
I cant seem to live long enough under pressure and most teams just train me
And there is no way for me to pump as much damage as a DH
Anyone know if quality changes the 2 purple crafted pvp gears item level scaling in arena?
Boots of impurity and helm that is
It doesn't.
Nah, can't do that.
Dstance long-term is inting, have to just trade stuff better.
Yeah i feel like this is a bad play but getting out of dstance while being trained havent helped really
Just gotta spam ques to even understand the current state of pvp
Last time i did arena was in cata
Anyone got a macro for alternating between stances with one button?
I use this
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2] Defensive Stance; [stance:1] Berserker Stance
Nice thanks
so is solo shuffle a meme or actually good af
you mean rating gains are just easy to farm? that's what it seems like tbh
I wouldn't be surprised if rating gains in solo shuffle get nerfed, but they may just want to make rewards available to more people
only thing you don't get from solo shuffle is glad title/mount yeah?
lmao
8*
it slows down at higher rating but yeah, even on the beta you could brute force pretty high rating with just games played
i don't remember it slowing down
is new 2400 elite cosmetic weapon models
there's already people above 2400
pretty sure people are already 2400
free rating meme bracket 
highest warrior is 2250
so hes gonna be like 1st or 2nd to get it
assuming hes NA
probly euro tho
so idk
like the 4 highest rated players are all dh
love to see it
nvm 1 monk and 1 assa
only thing thats 2400 is the average time in queue

feels like the bug from beta/pre patch where if que goes too long it goes SUPER long is in effect
was just in a 14min que after a string of fast ques
left que
signed up, insta pop
queues seem to be almost instant
stuck at 0, 20 min ques before i get bored and go do keys
hard to believe people farming high cr with these queue times but
Didn't look too long when I saw Mud play
how much are people paying for their crafted items?
0g

waste of strife
nah
this guy
always has the most fucked up takes
basically nothing
really is zero reason, even if maths out a tiny bit its not even worth bothering
see, they get the skillups
and sometimes roll free mats
so people tipping bigly
are dum
unless maybe dead realm
so easy to cap vault now for alts lol
hated having to try to grab rbgs if I couldn't find arena on alts
is weapon enchant out yet?
wrecking throw + pray for coil reflect.
Idk if this even matters in shuffle tbqh
otherwise, bend over cuz its a lock/rogue/priest season
They pump shitton of damage
I've started to go their rogue over lock, I'm not killing that raid boss anyway
Or stopping their dmg
Yeah best bet is to just get to 1800 by spamming games and stop after
I mean you're gonna have to deal with meta no matter what season you play
I miss 3v3 arena days with the team but so far DF games seem too rushed and bursty idk
you can still que normal arena
Yeah its just my inner boomer rant
Solo que is just side content that is going to apparently feed a lot of people with free rewards inbetween actual arena
Were elite sets even hard to get in SL?
I've stopped playing arena long time ago but 2200 was never hard to get
they've been free since they made them 1800 but even the 2400 cosmetic weapons are going to be free at this rate
liking that 2h axe tho
expedition greatsword from the intro quest
love me some ordinary weapons with high res textures
do we still take slaughterhouse or is it dead?
yeah the lance
and the blade portion doesn't sit between your shoulderblades which is a massive plus
stick take imo
You'll still want slaughter if you're not playing with an MS class
i maintain 2 stacks for 8 seconds easily
but yeah drop if you play with another MS class
oh didn't even know about that rare and I've been ignoring him
so mad, now I want it
event to spawn about to start in 1min too, 1/1 ez
wasn't as ez as I had planned, can you get loot from that guy more than once/day?
200 players? ;_;
get helm 2nd item?
Hey guys, new fury noob need some help. Can you tell me how often you go to def stance? And do you use the spells that require shield at any point in arena? And lastly: what classes/specs/spells do you use shattering throw against?
Thanks in advance, any help is welcome!
Anyone else struggling against Bard and Chaos ranger atm in 3s?
haven’t played a lick of fury so dunno if/how stances differ. shield abilities are never used. you’ll want shatter for mage & pal matchups, though wrecking throw has value into something like MW
u need to win
i went 5-1
They pump lots of damage in solo so far
what?
that new monthly trade post with cosmetics in capital cities will have elite sets?
Even less value basically
is the people can get full 421 gear for money bug only on NA, on EU not right?
Try to stay under Dstance less as you can. (Keep it for a rogue match up when they vanish for exemple and be ready for their next open)
Dont use shield abilities
Shattering throw vs Pal bubble/bop and mage ice block
Wrecking throw vs shield dependent class, like MW, Lock, Disc
why
sorry I didn't follow the news, I only know there's some upcoming vendors with cosmetics
Because the more people that have it, the less value it has
You know?
Like the fel drake
1 week after Twitch drops
did blizz say they will give away elite sets?
oh solo shuffle free rating, I see

btw, someone at blizzard fucked up
didn't name the map properly 
are we crafting the 424 helm after the boots? Worth it?
ye, tabard on 2.4k
tabard? o.o
u get rating
or are the players mouthbreathers in there?
I didn't have a chance to play yet
who is this arms chad?
does solo actually count for 1800
nop
I got like 500 mmr from winning 5/6 in a single game in placements
meme festival = solo q
@spice hornet I see you there prot lover
lame
nice pysfiend can get shield and you cant dispel it it take 3 hours to kill it
worst than before
nice sp abuser
ye they changed it
no u guys dont get it
the stacks stack up to 12 now up to 36%
they last 12 sec but dont refresh eachother so it will be 36% for like 4 sec, 24% for a fewz then 36% again, repeat
ik, it was 9 seconds but I don't think there's been an announcement on 12 seconds buff
its dead talent now

dh is strong af
every won round is a won game in mmr
Idk if I'd even call it a duration buff, it's not even remotely as strong as it was before 
fr WW is too busted to not be played
Warrior brothers please advise me, is there a meta for what armor pieces to use conquest on while we're capped?
Was gonna ask similar questions, noob to pvp and wondering what to buy first
Saving for weapon certainly seems like the correct mentality for a warrior haha
Well, weapons is our biggest upgrades. Getting 13ilvls on a wrist wont change much
For fury is it ok to have 1 wep 424 and offhand 421 for a while or do both at 424 asap?
did you put that on honor gear? 😅
guys what is best talents for pvp now ?
If you use a primal infusion for PvP gear to increase it's Item Level does it also increase it's PvP item level?
first time focusing on PvP, do we save this weeks conquest points for the weps next week?
probably not, pvp ilvl is already maxed
Thanks mate
Opinions on drakebreaker set bonus? Curious as to how many pieces people are using mixed in with honor/conq set
it only works in open world
oh really? Well my disappointment is immeasurable and my day ruined
but the ilvl still work in arena right? Could be a way to change honor stuff while we don't have conquest one
ilvl works
if you take the 421 ilvl weapon and save conquest for stuff and wait for a weap loot could be a way no?
Anyone else having issues with conquest from solo shuffle?
Win more
Do big dps
I went 3/6 on warrior, 4/6 on 2nd warrior, 3/6 on hunter
only the first got 200 conquest
😦
Idk if they changed it, but it sounds like you need to git gud
I mean that second part is true but
how do I go 3/6 on one warrior, get the 200 conquest for winning but then go 4/6 on another warrior and not get 200 conquest for winning

Dps, kills
Do you guys know any warr streamers that play 2s?
what's everyone getting for their first bit of conq gear?
WEAPON
Holding for Weapon, hoping vault shits one out
If not, first bought piece
Went from 2 6/6s back to back to getting my shit pushed in and going 1/6 and 2/6 
Hows solo shuffle atm?
Lol really? The queue is that long? 🤣
was getting fast queues for a while
slowed down now
guess I'll gear my dk a bit or something
-
is there a buy/upgrade order on pvp gear?
-
is it better to upgrade each in steps or do 1 to 5?
why would they throw if they want wins for gold?
Because tommy the priest will queue looking for the 1000g
And learn why feral is cancer
There’s no good answer to get people playing one role or the other sadly.
Unless you make impossible not to play the role
soo I jsut won 5/6 solo shuffle, but the UI shows 0 games, 0 cr and all that. Anyone know why?
Each spec is unique in its solo shuffle
So if you have 5 games and fury that’s only 5 games as fury
If you swapped specs after the match that is
Weird. Sorry then
waited 27mins for that 😭
Whats the word on enchants? Main stat on weapons, Vers/Vaste and speed on other pieces?
finally they released the game
aaaaaaaah
Do you expect ur rating to go up in 3-3? xd
Glad they allowed staying even
any really basic tips for 3s for a arena noob? i get confused over who to focus? should u generally train healer? i appreciate its hard to give general advice for a dynamic situ like this
it depends on mmr of your foe and allies
no, the frozen shit enchant is broken on weapons unfortunately
people started to abuse it already
if you go 3-3 and all win is against little mmr, downgrade, if u 3-3 against people with bigger mmr, upgrade
that sound like csgo
hope so man
Any warr streamers recommendations? Got to 1600 solo rating and getting rekt 
mud , magnusz
anyone tried sigil in solo?
So guys, what first item to get with conquest? Wait for next week to get a weapon, or??
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/pvp/leaderboards/3v3 I like how you can see the state of class balance with this.
with a healer strapped to you they're okay, the slows fucking obnoxious
Wait, what's the best build - the one MUD posted here or the one in the updated PVP guide on icyveins??
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=389405/homebound-speed
anyone tested this in arena instances?
Permanently enchants a cloak to increase your Speed by 75 and reduce the cooldown of your Hearthstone by (0s1 /- 60000) minutes while in the Dragon Isles.
do you guys run spear over roar?
Probably wait to see if you get a weapon from vault, if not buy one
+3 rating
Dk on top? Nerf them more!
do you all have 30 mins+ queue times in solo q too?

Wtf is with assa rogues? Can’t stand losing vs dude who triple drs kidney
Can you doe?
how's prot feeling in pvp lately
delete
assassin
holy fk
start arena with 30% dampening
he puts his dots
impossible to outheal
wtf
I miss my rogue.... Maybe I'll remake them.
What's a better partner for warrior? Bm or mm hunter?
bruh damn the solo shuffle queue times
they can juust delete that out of teh game agian
queues will probably be way quicker later in the season once arena dies down
à true friend ....
kekw i like solo more than actual arenas
cant blame ur team or get carried
too many haelers made it high in 3s cuz they get carried by DPS players tbf
My best friend is a hunter, were gone for all of SL and bfa, so we're teaming up again but not too sure what's best
did someone say kfc?
We dont have a third yet, and if we do will likely be shammy
I saw all the top warrior like @elfin surge and @steep inlet and @full quiver playing prot on ladder and I respecd prot just to feel like a good player for once
bwahaha
@wispy cedar died in opener to enemy prot so I respecced
Shield to the face
lol
if you die from prot in opener
problem is on ur end
^ tru
Is it 1800 still for the elite set ?
I just got 87 rating for a 5-1 solo shuffle at 1.5k wtf
is it the actual progression thingy in solo shuffle to be that grindy?
yes
do you get elite xmog at 1800 from solo shuffle?
been playing 2s with my monk friend who is WW, been going average, im playing fury.
seem to find DH's impossible, had several double DH matchups
yes
Dh is the fee glad spec this season
Pve upgrades
yikes
2.1 is weap enchant
oh yea
2.4 is weapon mog
mby that one looks cool
Does 2.4 unlock all weapon?
Idk
Or only the ones you have
I think it makes them purchasable on vendor
solo shuffle 2.4 seems so free
You buy the cosmetic weapons for 5 marks of honor
so you can only "learn" the ones your 2.4 spec char can equip
arena atm is just crazy, assassination rogues in 2s in healer comps that start at 30% dampening
almost unplayable
What can’t warrior equip
is there a 1v1 matchup chart for arms warrior somewhere i wanna see if rogue is actually some unwinnable matchup or if im just eggs
Can we equip fist?
should be able to
dont think we can learn the bow/xbow/gun/glaives ect but rest should be ok
Nice
So far I don’t feel dh matchup is hard
arms can beat other arms!
tbh
sit there spamming 2 buttons
just go assassination rogue
most braindead spec u will see this season
even respect DHs and monks 10x more
bro i quiver with rage when i see a rogue
sitting in stealth perma stunning u and one shotting
it didnt work, lemme restealth and try again
zzz
if ur doing 2v2 with a healer
arena starts at 30% dampening
rogue will do opener
put his dots on u
and u wont outheal it
with ur healer spam healing u
smh
what u think are some good duos for arms rn
play fury xd
i might have to
Arms playable, would be nice if it got some defensive love but its playable
2-3 mins
nah u can only solo queue it
Tried to get one in before reset and was in que the entire time. 24 minutes
pretty happy with arms in arena, only time I managed to kill prevokers
without a good MS it feels impossible
fatality
Tuning in general is rather high ATM. Healing is high, burst is high
is the one golden part
about arms
probably makes it pretty decent in 2s if u got a strong healer with u
I wasn't even playing with fatality
also
game starts at 30% dampening
people oneshotting each other left and right
what was blizz thinking?
Oh God right, they did a last minute hp boost of 40% didn't they
it was on beta
Imagine the clusterfuck if they hadn't
what horde race
would u guys play
orc seems kinda wasteful due to not stacking with trinket set bonus
undead?
Panda bruh, always panda. Get that vers boost
1%?
what are the rewards for getting duelist?
Don't be dissing the 1% swag
we gonna eat like primary stat foods having 2x primary from food for panda sounds great what do you guys think
also extra stun to cancel FoF
elite cloak and weapon illusion
Can't in pvp. Can only eat the noodles
i was talking about pve
This is the pvp channel
Thanks
kinda funny how rating only matters for pve tho
omg lmao sorry
gearingwise
Don't even think they added the illusion yet
Which is weird af
I call it a blessing. The reward is cosmetics for pvpers
I’m enjoying the pace of arena
Pvp shouldn't be a thing that higher rating means your pvp gear is better. People should be at equal or near equal standing
Don’t really like deep damp games where nothing dies
too much abuse
of 30% dampening start of game tho
dots are nuts
we sort of fixed it
by my healer
going full dmg talents
and trying to burst people down
but that'll only work up to like 2200
but after that
honestly
0% winrate vs assa rogues
lol people about to discover why it sucks not to feel the progression of power as you climb after whining about it for an entire expansion
nobody does anything just for the fun of it
Assasss is very strong I would not be surprised if it received some nerfs
no
i mean i do
season4 showed us uncapped conquest is ass
No that sucked only benefitted degens, play on an alt 2 weeks after uncap and get railed by dk/fury on my clothie alt
You act as if this is the first time they've done this.
the 30% dampening is just insane
my shammy healer also has a mortal effect
they get healed for nooothing
0
also no
where its healer comps
cos dampening starts at 30%
any extra healing reduct
at that point
and what about this ?
just gets insane value
And people will have power progression up to the point they're in full conquest gear. Which will take a good bit of time. I imagine they'll be doing shorter seasons with new gear ilvls too
ele shaman seems ridiculous to me. was 1v1 in 2s against one thought it would be easy, but they kept healing themselves from 10% to 100% with an instant cast heal?
man I played with slaughterhouse against a prevoker and felt like I was never going to kill him lol
switched to arms and just kept winning
@wet scarab is that in solo?
but instead
no 2s
u just autolose to people who decide to kill u
hmm, found arms got blown up in 2s whereas fury is a lot stronger
bladestorm unhinged is just too good
Or pretty much anything. Arms is about the squishiest melee at the moment
it's not that bad
maybe, but in solo shuff it's a lot more viable
solo shuffle kinda meme
2s, if they decide to kill you, you just die immediately
same 2 people that die every round
True, fury is just generally a better choice
it isn't but sp/lock/rogue are so strong rn, everything else seems shit in comparison.
Don't forget dh and arguably drood
I didn't run into many spriests but if you time bitter immunity properly rogues weren't giving me that much trouble
yes and feral
but there aren't many ferals
it is that's why I said you need to time it properly
it basically stops 1 go
honestly the main combo that felt unfair was DH/prevoker
Warrior matches generally are intended to be fast. You generally won't use any cool down more than once
Feral is either a joke, new player learning, or claps.
I don't know what numbers you're supposed to get in honor gear but crit a few 70k executes that were quite nice
is bitter immunity good against spriests?
yeah I wasn't playing with fatality, I should try it
its honestly
imo
the best part of arms
rn
and has actual potential
u still run unhinged
on top of it
you can even play giga defensively
does the MS from unhinged refresh it?
go deep into dampening
and pretty much guarantee a win
if u live like 4-5 mins
yes
Fatality is an auto kill button more or less, it's the intent
so u could do MS -> mini storm -> MS -> bladestorm -> MS and end up with 7 stacks
which is enough to guarantee oneshot
surely they won't nerf fatality
what do you drop for it though there isn't a lot of give in the spec tree
No reason too. Even with it arms can't compete with fury. It makes the already lethal execute point. More lethal. Numbers are big, but they already were. And you have to actually get thebto that point. For a warrior, execute range was already win range
they are probably not nerfing arms for a bit partly because we are pathetic in pve but also because everyone is still playing fury and so we have a feral type situation
execute range was already win range
mfw lock heals 5% to full
At best it'll lead to arms being a priority target if only because people will realize they are the glassiest of cannons

well then tanks can queue
What about it, they're considered DPS except prot pally
Kinda miss my paladin, but all the horde paladin races look like shit
so true
Warrior, my favorite class. But also the one I'm worst at in pvp. Smh. Am I a masochist?
I dont know both specs are pretty good right now
wait when somone leave at last round whole game is invalid?
and you get no conquest
yeah, but they get harshly punished with -100 rating and 15 min penalty

and I think /camp still lets you leave without deserter debuff
kekw
didnt know that tx
lol
Unerfed works at mcdonalds 🤡
chose tailoring = ban
@soft zodiac free burger bro im just 300 iq
de nada zaza
does lindormi not give u a m+ key? do i have to run a regular mythic?
Yes need to run a mythic doesn’t have to be a 0 though
did you guys craft the second spark gear… helm after boots? Worth it?
when u make a bolt of cloth because blizz fucked up and get banned lmao
idk why this type of thing isn't just rolled back and ignored
it didnt happen as easy as that
what a garbanzo change that tanks are now dps in soloqueue
tank plus healer games zzzz
stop bully troma
tank isnt tank bro its a dps now
isnt cancer and perfectly balanced
ruined only thing that i look most
What add-ons do yall use by the way?
Elvui KEKW
rip soloshufle
yes
duno, ive been 1hour now in queue for soloshufle and still didnt get any rating
is it still worth getting the pvp crafted helm?
forever in que gang
pretty sure they did, no?
ban*
70k for a wep enchant is just a bad joke no?
only if youre poor
So if u do 3s with ret or class with no ms u should go arms, otherwise fury, or do we still not really know
if you have a partner that pulls focus off you, like ret, sp, lock, then arms can be solid
I would def wait a few weeks lol
Anyone use their second spark of ingenuity?
using mine for pve
i've got helm and boots
Hmm helm looks good
how are people farming sparks of life?
you get 5-10 from rares, 10 from WQs, 1 per kill, 5-8 for dirt piles and scout packs.
its real weird that the best way to do a pvp quest is to dig in the dirt
can someone explain how i got to 1750 and then droped to 1600
lack of skill i have to imagine
u left game maybe
because youre actually fighting people whose mmr is near your cr
when youre low rated its easy to see massive gains
is the icy veins guide updated? it doesn't explain how to use avatar and spear in our burst combo
im not sure if i should be trying to weave rampages between or just dropping it all
are there other good guides out there
can someone good lin k me build
i feel sad for resto shaman
so far im seeing resto shaman being trained every single round
Are you me ? 😆
Shaman in general tbh they go pop
Train the blue. Always works
Reck > Avatar > Roar/Spear > 2 GCD (just hit buttons until the avatar OF dot finishes)> Odyns fury > continue dps rotation
Pretty sure that checks out
Always reck before avatar so the avatar OF gets the reck crit buff
is fury still the way to go or we on arms now?
if you luck out with vault, buy armor
fury is generally gonna perform better.
arms will work better in some specific comps i think
def go fury, way better for unrated solo BGs
are u guys saving conq points for a 2h
Its so fucking COOL being 500 rated and getting put into a 2k mmr solo
or did u buy a piece
yes
everyone with greater than 5 iq is saving
i bought neck cuz i thought slamming 3 gems in it would be nice
doesnt do shit to this bullshit
whos that youtuber thats doing the 2h + 1h build?
how?
its a meme for views
"you wont BELIEVE this SICK HIDDEN FURY BUILD"
does anyone do sims on this stuff
Idk look at the details maybe some weird shit was going on, maybe you just got your ass whooped
yeah every ret i meet so far
they are bursted on dmg meter
i dunno how
ret under the radar>
:)
told ya ret arms is still very strong
is there a conq gear priority? like get weapons first?
kekw
Lol amazing. I got a few 110k + mortals last night
We popped a dh in game we should've lost
i literally just
instantly killed a 340k hp priest
on contact
idk yo ret/arms might literally just run over people
its a shame THEYRE ALL PLAYING WITH WARLOCKS
would arms be better then fury in a warrior/enh shaman/ mistweaver comp?
fury the goto for solo shuffle?
no haste/vers weapon for us? 😦
also solo shuffle que says 5mins...is actually 30
arms is goat bapa
i got a 2 min q as fury
you a number guy b?
what rating r u ?
cuz im not high at all and i sit there forever i hate it
done about 10 arenas so far its all arcane mages xD
literally havent seen anything but them so far today sometimes double but always at least one
Was the change to d stance only supposed to be for Prot, as stated in blue post, or for all specs (referring to change from 20 to 15%)
Someone tell me what to buy for arms
what do you mean?
what to craft ig
for crafting u can craft boots and head, +1 epic gem for 20 primal
there is not much option
i just got the head slot for my rogue, then WW is prio, last warrior, i was just curious is that DOT even noticable if anyone crafted that already
I am also asking if that head is good for arms bubba
I legit have seen 1 mage in 50 rank 3s
Warlocks and priests every other game@
Or other warriors and dhs
I saw magnusz has the head
Some rogues most other classes non existent t
On his war
ofc cus other classes can't live through like fury, DH, shadow, lock
on my WW i die to air 😂
I think it's worth crafting the head. Saving conquest for weaps anyway
kitty is above god
^
that's what im tawkin bout b
Uh hunnid percent
are people running speed or avoidance enchants for fury?
people rerolling healer xD
why
There's quite a few DKs at top 100 atm
In my sesh yesterday lots of spriest, mw, assass, dh, dk, shaman of all specs
man swear PvE DPS'ers have no interrupt or defensives binde
When playing kitty, who’s ms you use?
the cats.
yes
Is there a macro that lets me switch between def stance and berserker stance?
anyone know why gladiusex shows this shit even tho everything is turned off
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Berserker Stance
it's big debuffs
I disabled anything extra on bigdebuffs except raidframes and unit frames
ty ❤️
assass damage is broken
to make you want to pay for dark iron race swap
How is the solo shuffle experience? Didn’t have the chance to play today?
20 mins ques
get bored and go do something else
And qs suck
still 0 rating
spriest/asssass has to be the best 3s comp rn
unreal pressure and control
and extremely hard to kill cause so many defensives
This assa + feral just killed a priest healer in shuffle through all his buttons
And my darkness
Gonna swap back to my warrior i think its slightly better in shuffle
Couldn't even be mad like he just couldnt heal through it lol
For pvp why not
It doesnt go up in pvp




