pvp

[full quiver]

is that the real crusader

[elfin surge]

the mies

[full quiver]

Lmao

a fellow pwaffle enthusiast i see

[spice hornet]

Crusader and partywaffle enjoyer

It all makes sense now

[fickle forge]

Kekw, Mud isn't in my top 4 most viewed in 2022

Cause bitch always begins his stream when it's midnight for me

Smh

[elfin surge]

@low sigil

[low sigil]

I just see weakness

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-senju-gif-13079766

@fickle forge HOES MAD

[fickle forge]

If Mud could either stream earlier, or last longer, I'd be able to catch one of the ends

[formal creek]

even though he streams midnight for me as well, Mud is in my top 4 cool

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[brazen rock]

i like mud because he answers the same 3 questions all night and never snaps at people

[dry trail]

🙂

[elfin surge]

hey man, thoughts on fury nerfs?

[gritty salmon]

Does this work with titans grip or nah?

[brazen rock]

[elfin surge]

yes ofc

[gritty salmon]

Aight

[zenith marlin]

1 fury warrior is equivalent to 2 arms warriors

we use both arms

[gritty salmon]

Seems like a weird talent, considering we can only wear dual wield @elfin surge

If its for both 1h or 2h

[elfin surge]

free dam

[zenith marlin]

arms has the same for equipping a two-handed

kekw

sadge for all the shield arms players

or worse prot has it for equipping one handeds

no more Blood DK role play

[brazen rock]

actual question tho, what healer would you pair with arms rn? disc to stay giga offensive or something like hpal for uptime + sac and shit?

in 3s ofc

[gritty salmon]

Defensive stance is so garbage my god especially as fury

[elfin surge]

usually the defensive synergy arms has with rdruid is always good

[gritty salmon]

Not only does it make annihilator build worse, but far less damage

[elfin surge]

@brazen rock so rdruid prob

[gritty salmon]

Thank god for warpaint

[brazen rock]

What if playing with feral, still rdruid?

[paper wigeon]

preservation can prob play with anything

[stuck mulch]

waht about fury? :hmm same?

[elfin surge]

not sure, rdruid kitty was played back in s2 when kitty was meta but so was disc rsham mw...

[brazen rock]

guess ill just experiment a bunch

[stuck mulch]

is Rdruid and fury warr 2s decent? :hmm

or should i look for disc

[elfin surge]

i just q with disc priests

cuz im a mongo idiot

[elfin surge]

possible??? idk

[gritty salmon]

I mean isnt prevoker just far better then every other healer

Id say if you can get a prevoker

[elfin surge]

rdruid prob best, maybe mw too. But im not gunna lie

i think war gunna suck in 2s

big time

[brazen rock]

it just brings pure raw healing, thats it

disc brings a fuckload of dam letting you mongo down people

[compact heron]

Sadge 😦

[gritty salmon]

Yea and arms are squishy as hell

[paper wigeon]

rescue is insane

[gritty salmon]

So you do need pure raw healing

[paper wigeon]

and their "damage" build is also rly good

[gritty salmon]

For fury I can understand disc

[paper wigeon]

as support

[brazen rock]

what you do need is another dps to offset some focus

[elfin surge]

assa rogue is a better arms warrior

[gritty salmon]

Because you can get decent sustain self healing with spamming bloodthirst, impending victory and enraged

[fickle forge]

Cba @elfin surge guilt tripping me for being asleep when he streams, when he's gone 20 hours a day himself for work

[compact heron]

What time is it showing for realms to be back online…?

[elfin surge]

[brazen rock]

1.5 hours from now

assuming no delays

(there will be delays, go touch grass)

[compact heron]

^

[fickle forge]

Sorry, I forgot you also spend 1 hour on Twitter daily

[stuck mulch]

wat are some good 3s comps for fury? im new to warrior pvp so sorry for standard questions

[elfin surge]

not

[brazen rock]

tsg, kitty, batman, turbo (maybe) kfc

theres more ofc but those come to mind

[stuck mulch]

:hmm

uhm.. can u give the class names

[gritty salmon]

@brazen rock You think fury can do good in 2s?

[fickle forge]

Batman cleave

[green wyvern]

tsg = warr/dk/healer, kitty = warr/feral/healer, batman = warr/dh/healer, turbo = warr/enha/healer

[stuck mulch]

thank you ❤️

[green wyvern]

kfc is warr/hunter/healer

[brazen rock]

up to a point, yes i think so

[quick carbon]

I can confirm arms is dookie in 2s I spent an hour getting farmed by ww rdruid as arms rdruid in war games xd

[worthy fern]

@stuck mulch war also pairs well with most casters

[brazen rock]

fury/feral can run over alot of comps

[worthy fern]

Sp, lock, ele

[stuck mulch]

SP would be filthy

[brazen rock]

arms will pair well with all of those.

[paper wigeon]

here i hoped arms would be good in 2s as theres less damage on you

[brazen rock]

but still worse than assa like mud said

[paper wigeon]

or atleast decent

[quick carbon]

was bannering and bladestorming half of the legsweep and I would legit just die in dr sweeps to thunderfist images

[brazen rock]

one day thunderfist will get a 50% pvp nerf

one day

[quick carbon]

ww damage is ABSURD

I’d legit just get smoked

[elfin surge]

i will find an arms build

[quick carbon]

I’d parry and he’d disarm me through it and it’s like the 30% wall doesn’t even exist I died so fast

maybe ww just smokes everything tho Idk

[worthy fern]

@elfin surge just playing crit Arms with unhinged feels good to me damage wise

Or battlelord

[dry trail]

big dam

[quick carbon]

the fact that ww disarm through parry man

[quick carbon]

Just so sadge

[near delta]

Just need to fear their clones

[worthy fern]

@elfin surge jsut day you’re scared to play arms again

It’s ok

[green wyvern]

50% crit chance on MS with full crit gear and tier set

[brazen rock]

🤷‍♂️

[quick carbon]

yes you fear the images but ww has 2 charges of them

[near delta]

Tays spear build looked pretty fun

[brazen rock]

[near delta]

If they use the 2nd charge before the next go they're screwed

[stuck mulch]

is WW only defensive karma? :hmm i know little to 0 about monks

[worthy fern]

@brazen rock I do same but unhinged > bl

[brazen rock]

i dont like sitting in bladestorm

feels cringe

[near delta]

They have dampen, diffuse, fort brew, and karma now

[green wyvern]

I mean sitting in bs is good

you cant get cced

[worthy fern]

@brazen rock it’s not the end of the world if you have to cancel

[brazen rock]

id rather use it as cc break

and have battlelord

[near delta]

And with the new talent fort brew is a 6 minute cd that's like a mini blur

[quick carbon]

You gotta bladestorm with parry so you don’t get it disarmed by monks 😭

[zenith marlin]

ait boutta hit some bike cardio today

[sharp bison]

KFC was a fun time yesterday in skirmishes. Went like 8-2

[brazen rock]

i think you just accept that ww walks over you and move on lul

[zenith marlin]

maybe goblet squats to do smth atleast while recovering

[brazen rock]

why tf one class can bypass the only defensive arms has is absurd

[green wyvern]

monk disarm is ranged

[zenith marlin]

Meanwhile the hunter defensives

Being immune to Shattering Throw

[green wyvern]

why would you parry monk disarm

[brazen rock]

hes saying you get disarmed on your parry.

you cant dbts vs monks basically.

[green wyvern]

ah

[full quiver]

LMFAO

[zenith marlin]

bruh I'll suit up in medieval armor and a greatsword and fight any bare fist man ngl

Monk vs Warrior just dont add up

[dry trail]

haha

[full quiver]

i am dyings

at that clown pic

[zenith marlin]

i am saving that pic kek

defo re use material

[full quiver]

i've sent it to like 6 people

coworker asked why i was laughing so hard

[dry trail]

yeah nice pic must be a celebrity or smth 😏

[distant raptor]

Is it troll to pick a void elf for PvP?

[brazen rock]

i mean it does nothing

[distant raptor]

Over human*

[brazen rock]

go dark iron if you want to be meta

ass rogue and feral are both absurd

[distant raptor]

Dark iron is ugly tho

[brazen rock]

ur ugly

[zenith marlin]

go orc or loose

[distant raptor]

I’m alliance purist

[elfin surge]

ur ugly

[zenith marlin]

im orc purist

[regal locust]

Races don’t mean that much anymore unless your competing at high lvl

Just play what you want

[zenith marlin]

avg zug zug warrior is better than avg human warrior 100%

[brazen rock]

bleed/poison clear is big vs feral and ass rogue

[zenith marlin]

ngl ferals always hit me with confidence early on in fights

kitties rly get into fights thinknig they'll get out

[dry trail]

god loves ugly

[distant raptor]

You don’t like rogues fine… but you don’t have to keep insulting them by calling them ass

[zenith marlin]

kek

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/man-flesh-orc-lotr-gif-11645395

[regal locust]

How massive is that brain really MUD?

[stuck mulch]

it never stops growing

[zenith marlin]

strongest peak age rogue player vs weakest 65 year old 3k MS reaction time warrior player

u can play that gif in ur head

[elfin surge]

my brain is so massive its pressing on the inside of my skull causing me to have seizures

[regal locust]

Worth the seizures for sure!

[fickle forge]

Strongest peak top end orthodox ultimate rogue player

[distant raptor]

For alliance, is human a good choice for pvp anymore

since Every Man shares a cd with trinket whats the point

?

[worthy fern]

@distant raptor can run double dps trinkets

Is only reason

[distant raptor]

ah gotcha- assuming this is a nice little boost?

[zenith marlin]

go orc get double dps trinkets anyway

[worthy fern]

It’s ok

[zenith marlin]

just sit out CC

[worthy fern]

Problem is stuff like dark iron just better

[distant raptor]

Dark iron one seems better

yeah

but i dont want to be short

[worthy fern]

Plus dark iron buff is more stats than a trinket

[distant raptor]

i want to be a tall chad

[worthy fern]

Play night elf

And make meld plays

[zenith marlin]

xd

[distant raptor]

does activating meld make your target untarget u

[zenith marlin]

budget feign death

[green wyvern]

how does fury keep ms stacks up if it gets trained tho

[worthy fern]

You can meld the hunt

[green wyvern]

like if assa trains you

very sketchy

[distant raptor]

What about for other classes i.e. rogue, is dark iron still best alliance side?

[worthy fern]

Night elf is bis rogue

[wheat jay]

Actually, feign is budget meld xD

[worthy fern]

Cause free restealth

[wheat jay]

Cuz you can't have FULL immunity to everything with feign death

[brazen rock]

if you meld hunt midair it does some funny shit

[distant raptor]

gotcha

[brazen rock]

usually breaks DH brain

[worthy fern]

@brazen rock yea it’s very tilting on my dh

[brazen rock]

good

[worthy fern]

Goes on cooldown does nothing.

[brazen rock]

fuck dh players lul

[worthy fern]

I play it all

[wheat jay]

+1

[regal locust]

Realistically, how do you guys think the slaughterhouse nerf affects us?

[fickle forge]

Negatively, realistically

[regal locust]

😂

[brazen rock]

idk ask mud

[regal locust]

The damage and healing done we do is still really good.

[sharp meteor]

very negatively if it all falls off at 9 seconds

somewhat so if it rolls

end of the day can always play with a ww/havoc or maybe demo if slaughterhouse is kill

[green wyvern]

it does fall off at 9 seconds

[brazen rock]

feral also.

[sharp meteor]

ah ye kitty

[brazen rock]

probably the best of the melee cleaves imo

for fury.

[green wyvern]

yeah fury/feral will pump

[brazen rock]

will work with arms too

[sharp meteor]

annoying to have a few comp options like turb and retwarr nerfed but like eh

oh and tsg

[green wyvern]

you play arms with turbo and retwarr

[sharp meteor]

ya

[brazen rock]

you can play arms with kitty just fine.

[fickle forge]

Have my eyes on arms+SP atm as well

[green wyvern]

definitely

[fickle forge]

Psy -> Sharpen is the best healing reduction combo in the game now

[sharp meteor]

arms sp with evoker or rdoo seems nice

[brazen rock]

yeah i think arms/sp/rdruid is gonna work great.

[green wyvern]

true psyfiend got a huge buff

psyfiend + sharpen will absolutely destroy people

there's no way getting out of that without using multiple defensives

requires some skill to execute properly though

not as mongo as turbo and ret/warr

[dry trail]

skills to kill

[spice hornet]

Good morning @sharp meteor

[thick reef]

The real strat is 2x Fury War

Obviously

[dry trail]

yep

literall slaughterhouse

[proven maple]

Fury healing nerfed. Can’t

[sharp meteor]

Good day.

[thick reef]

You clearly aren't trying hard enough

[spice hornet]

Oh you’re EST

[mystic barn]

dude just kill the psyfiend

[green wyvern]

takes like 5 globals, maybe more

[brazen rock]

can spriest give us PI?

or is shared PI only for disc

oh lord any priest can get it

[sharp meteor]

-power word: shields it-

[fossil mortar]

Guys #fury is calling you shitters

[sharp meteor]

it's too early in the season for the pve players to be coping

[brazen rock]

(i mostly do m+ dont tell them)

[sharp meteor]

keys are fun

[quaint snow]

im gonna play fury spriest rdruid

[brazen rock]

idk i think arms might play better with it

PI doesn't really do much for fury, we already sit at near 60% haste

[green wyvern]

arms is strong with pi yeah

[quaint snow]

yeah but can i change my fury brain to an arms brain? 😅

[green wyvern]

ye spam ms instead of bloodthirst

[zenith marlin]

spam Overpower instead bloodthirst

[quaint snow]

theres a point

[zenith marlin]

inhale before every mortal strike

[fickle forge]

Do they bench above 1pl8?

[zenith marlin]

#fury hits things that dont hit them back

[fossil mortar]

PvErs won the war

[zenith marlin]

PvErs are out there fighting old gods

We out here fighting over Warsong

for 18 years

[quaint snow]

Do arms use same gear as fury?

[brazen rock]

nah

crit focused

[zenith marlin]

yes + your better 2 hander

[drowsy depot]

I love fighting scripted bots, static gameplay is fun!

[brazen rock]

still want some heaste

[zenith marlin]

oh I guess stats wise

[quaint snow]

or you want crit

[zenith marlin]

wait untill blizz implements AI to their boss encounters

Bosses chain CCing healers kekw

[drowsy depot]

that will be the day I'll take an interest to raiding again

[fickle forge]

Remember faction champions?

Think it's the most hated PvE fight

[zenith marlin]

I hated soloign that in Cata

they slapped me

i basically couldnt

[fickle forge]

Oh no! The mobs can actually fight back?!

Bad content

[zenith marlin]

loool

[drowsy depot]

the mobs are hitting me, what's a defensive?

[zenith marlin]

interrupt unbinded

[drowsy depot]

the amount of mythic raiders I've killed in open world that had no idea what a defensive was... Blows my mind

[zenith marlin]

raider casters lmaoo

standing and casting chaos bolt on me with all thier CDs like I wont spell reflect

[drowsy depot]

LMFAO

[fossil mortar]

[fickle forge]

Isn't there a video of some classic super AQ40 geared PvE Andy that loses to a level 56 SP even after popping Recklessness

[zenith marlin]

LOL

[drowsy depot]

DUDE STOP

I'm laughing

and need to shit SO bad

[brazen rock]

i need the vod

[spice magnet]

What’s the add on that shows the players big cooldowns?

[zenith marlin]

I think Nameplate Cooldowns

atleast that's what I use

[drowsy depot]

nameplate cooldowns/omnicc/bigdebuffs?

[zenith marlin]

It doesn't consider talents that reduce CD however

[drowsy depot]

sarena?

[zenith marlin]

e.g. 1 sec off Avatar every 10 rage spent talents ruin it

[high creek]

where plz

[obsidian void]

what weapon enchants are people going for fury

[brazen rock]

str/vers procs

frozen devo maybe

[drowsy depot]

sophic is better no?

[quasi rock]

U can only have it once

[zenith marlin]

i thought we were talking about a sophie

T^T

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ScarceImpureLark-max-1mb.gif

lemme post this to rogue discord

[onyx vale]

this isn't that surprising, warrior in classic is trash

probably would lose to level 40 mage

[zenith marlin]

If mage knows how to blink

xd

[onyx vale]

even while resiting 70% of their spells

[brazen rock]

just say classic is trash and be done with it

[zenith marlin]

Every 30 mins we could 1v1 a rogue and win

[onyx vale]

nah, there were fun moments

in vanilla classic at least

tbc and wrath not so much

[zenith marlin]

Yo Arms, does Overpower actually function as Overpower?

Like smack rogues and DHs after dodges?

[onyx vale]

overpower isn't dodgeable but it doesnt get a stack when you get dodged

[fossil mortar]

It also does 0 damage so...

[onyx vale]

it's also not an almost guaranteed crit

and not on half gcd

[fickle forge]

It does fine damage

[onyx vale]

so 50/50 on it being overpower

it looks like overpower but it doesnt smell like overpower

[quasi rock]

yeah the name is far from reality

[fossil mortar]

Btw, just fun thing. World PVP atm is buzzing and is a ton of fun

[zenith marlin]

I just want Mortal Strike to hit like Mortal Strike T^T

Arms is fun while leveling to be fair

[onyx vale]

mortal strike hits pretty hard

[fickle forge]

Are 180k MS not MS enough for you?

[brazen rock]

lmao what

[zenith marlin]

Mine hit like 30k

Tops

[quasi rock]

who does 180k ms

[brazen rock]

play better

[onyx vale]

I don't really do 180k ms either

[brazen rock]

fury brainrot can't put together a few buttons

[zenith marlin]

Skullsplitter hits like 100k when I am lucky

[onyx vale]

but i do get 100 k ms fairly often

[zenith marlin]

Ok how about Execute that executes maybe MSis fine

[onyx vale]

no, please do not put more of our damage on execute

[brazen rock]

^

[muted surge]

Execute is also good

[onyx vale]

not being able to play the game for 70% of the fight isn't fun i already had that in wod

fuck wod, btw

[zenith marlin]

wont we be in CC and kited even more now

[fickle forge]

This is what I peaked on an actual player, but some guy in here hit 180k

[zenith marlin]

rip that dude kekw

Legend says he is still on the forums

[fossil mortar]

Stop hitting critters. I beg

[quasi rock]

full stuff against none, not gonna happen in regular arenas I guess

[zenith marlin]

I wish rampage showed 1 big number

I cant do addition

[onyx vale]

i wish fury had heroic strike

[fossil mortar]

Many small numbers do feel smoll

[zenith marlin]

How about Bladestorm

do it hit or is still still trinket

[fickle forge]

Better?

[fickle forge]

Apparently it does

[onyx vale]

bladestorm hits pretty hard with unhinged

[zenith marlin]

does unhinged work with avatar BS?

[onyx vale]

yes

[crude bane]

@zenith marlin you finnaly join the arms chad army

[zenith marlin]

I played arms entire BFA

was fun

[dawn saddle]

Man, they really nerfed slaughterhouse into the ground lol

[green wyvern]

yeah

[dire carbon]

is arms better than fury now ?

[dawn saddle]

Arms doesn't have the damage from what I've seen but I don't know that much

[spice magnet]

Pfft

[zenith marlin]

Good maybe Fury will be weak in pvp and they will buff our DPS

[spice magnet]

In bgs I’m usually top 5 in dmg

[brazen rock]

servers coming up btw

no delay

login servers taking a deep dicking though

[dawn saddle]

I just don't get blizzard, slaughterhouse was too strong but they made almost useless.

[zenith marlin]

Avg blizz nerf

[graceful ginkgo]

Good

[zenith marlin]

I saw too many fury warrs around tbf

[onyx vale]

now remove mortal strike from feral dh monk and anything that isnt arms warrior

[near delta]

Monks can't even stay in to keep it up. So really not problematic imo

[onyx vale]

arms also can't stay in to keep it up

[near delta]

I mean tru lol

[gritty salmon]

We seriously need to mute arms people for 1 week when they get stomped in the coming season

[crude bane]

whats the point of playing warrior with no MS there is tons of class with better damage

another 3 iq from blizzard

[sharp meteor]

oh elite weps are 2400 sick

[peak mesa]

hello is the stat speed is add with the +10%ms from enrage?

[stuck mulch]

For the epenis

[dawn saddle]

Ya, honestly should've have nerfed to like 5 stacks at 4% per use and kept duration at 6 seconds. Now no one is going to even use slaughterhouse, it's not viable.

[crude bane]

the duration is the problem

you lost all stack after 9 second

[gritty salmon]

If they maybe icnreased the duration to 12 seconds

[crude bane]

you dint even apply all your stack if you get kited

this is ridiculous

[gritty salmon]

All stacks shouldnt be lost

imo

[crude bane]

meanwhile rogue

just meanwhile rogue

4 poison

kekw

[gritty salmon]

What spec llacks MS n

I know FDK does

[crude bane]

WW ? but can global you

ret ? but crit for 160 K+

[gritty salmon]

Yea but ret

I mean

They are easy

[rapid pagoda]

How are fury changes so far?

[gritty salmon]

The classes I struggle with are Spriest

[crude bane]

yeah spriest is busted

like rogue

hope for a tuning

[rapid pagoda]

Same. Spriest is a nightmare

[gritty salmon]

Rogues are hard

[crude bane]

wait and see

[gritty salmon]

But I canusually handle rogues

[dry trail]

wait and see

[gritty salmon]

You have to kite them though

[crude bane]

whats the ms % for feral ?

[full quiver]

Ww has ms?

[crude bane]

they have ?

im not sure

[gritty salmon]

Also is going rallying cry even worth it?

[dry trail]

no

[full quiver]

They do lol

[gritty salmon]

I mean its pretty shit because

You dont use the pvp talent

[crude bane]

@full quiver well why even play warrior at this point

just play WW or dh

[gritty salmon]

We wil lsee how practical the ms nerfs will make slaughterhouse

[crude bane]

they all better at any point

[gritty salmon]

it could go from "This isnt so bad"

To "Its unviable"

[full quiver]

Good

Then everyone can play arms agajn

[gritty salmon]

Dude

Its not going to make arms better

[crude bane]

idk arms looks like you can CC for ever

and have 0 sustain

[gritty salmon]

Arms are squishy people

Easy to kill

and honestly , facing arms is like the easiest melee spec with the exception of fdk

[crude bane]

how frost mage going rn ?

[gritty salmon]

They have a lot of kiting tools and good damage, but because warriors have 2 charges etc

They can easily be cut down

But they arent bad, as people are making them out to be

But arcane is stll better

[green wyvern]

fury is dead

[stuck mulch]

Allways was

[gritty salmon]

Fury will outpace arms in every way

You will see

[crude bane]

if they remove the duration thing

fury is A Tier i guess

[covert abyss]

hysterical echo chamber

[worthy fern]

Everyone sleeping on arms so hard

[crude bane]

unkillable good burst

[worthy fern]

No one good is playing it

[gritty salmon]

Fury is low A tier now it was S tier without the nerfs

[crude bane]

dh MS is 25 % in pvp ?

or more

[gritty salmon]

No one is sleeping on arms because it’s a spec that’s easy to kill , once parry is over you are dead meat

[worthy fern]

You have heal as well

[steep inlet]

This

[gritty salmon]

You do equal damage sometimes worse then fury

[worthy fern]

Impending

[gritty salmon]

But your self healing is garbage

[green wyvern]

idk arms unhinged pumps

[steep inlet]

Watch R1 players owning as arms in ladder

[worthy fern]

You pump big dam

[green wyvern]

don't care what anyone says

I just need non braindead mates

[gritty salmon]

I have never seen an arms pump even good ones

Because they die first

[steep inlet]

Stop trolling

[worthy fern]

What good ones have you watched

[wheat jay]

arms casually dropping 130k mortals

4 in a row

xD

[steep inlet]

Yep

[green wyvern]

yeah

[gritty salmon]

I am not trolling , you guys wanna post copium go ahead

[green wyvern]

and imagine

with tier set

[wheat jay]

arms

[green wyvern]

50% baseline crit on ms

[wheat jay]

is

strong

as its always been

[worthy fern]

Hit 100k mortals inside blade storm

[steep inlet]

Watch ladder having arms owning

Mark my word

[worthy fern]

^

[full quiver]

duelist weps

[worthy fern]

Calling it too

[gritty salmon]

Fury has the best tier set, the 4th one literally gives you 80% uptime

[full quiver]

are now actually elite

[worthy fern]

Fury tier set is trash

What

Compared to arms

[crude bane]

fury tier is useless my g

[gritty salmon]

Yea bro call it and when you are called wrong you will come out and say how bad blizzard is

[green wyvern]

fury tier set is awful

[green wyvern]

fury set is legit useless lmao

[worthy fern]

The arms tier set is perfect

[gritty salmon]

People here are gonna get a bad reckoning once they realize how garbage arms will be in rated haha

[crude bane]

plz dont tell me i have to go HM

[worthy fern]

For how they build talents and stats

[green wyvern]

arms set gives you permanent 15% crit chance on ms

[crude bane]

to pump pvp content

[green wyvern]

and 15% damage increase

[crude bane]

its awful

[full quiver]

if arms is good again

[sage raptor]

I saw that. Does that mean we can use them as warrs?

[full quiver]

gonna be hard for me to stay on dk lmao

[steep inlet]

Ready to screen the ladder with Blizo etc as Arms owning

[gritty salmon]

Okay man let’s find out tommorow

[worthy fern]

I also feel like arms will get another defensive buff

[gritty salmon]

I will post a rating of mine and you will post a rating of yours

[crude bane]

i rly doubt blizo will blow the ladder

[green wyvern]

arms will get a damage buff cus of pve

[wheat jay]

i meaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

[worthy fern]

Arms dmg is busted already

[gritty salmon]

Arms are balanced

[wheat jay]

what kind of rating are we going to look at?

[worthy fern]

Sustained wise

[gritty salmon]

It doesn’t matter what kind

[worthy fern]

Literally chunk people all game

[covert abyss]

If there are millions of arms warriors on the ladder I am one of them. If the ladder has ten arms warriors I am one of them. If there is only one arms warrior then that is me. If there are no arms warriors, that means I am no more on the Earth. If the world is against arms warrior, I am against the world.

[wheat jay]

are we gonna be like "guys i got 1600, fury busted"

[gritty salmon]

We are facing eachother

[wheat jay]

or "guys i got 2400, fury busted"

[crude bane]

damage is good on both fury and arms but i mean arms sustain is so garbage

[zenith marlin]

haha yes be a constant in the arms ladder

[worthy fern]

?

[zenith marlin]

never drop ur spec

[worthy fern]

It’s not tho

You have csmash every 30 sec

[gritty salmon]

People here with shitty arms copium gonna be hilarious

[worthy fern]

Legit every stun

Csmash

With reck proc for first 4 seconds

I think it’s defensives aren’t the best

But dmg is not lacking at all

[green wyvern]

you have to kite well

which bad warr players can't do

too much braindam

[worthy fern]

I think vs melee you’re fine

[gritty salmon]

It’s defensive is like the worst melee defensive with the exception of fdk

[green wyvern]

not true

[wheat jay]

arms?

[gritty salmon]

Yes true

[wheat jay]

bruh

[gritty salmon]

Arms

[wheat jay]

100% parry, that heals

[green wyvern]

you have on demand 10% damage reduction

[gritty salmon]

Oh parry so scared

Mate I kite your arms

[green wyvern]

dk doesn't

[gritty salmon]

You dead

[crude bane]

parry useless vs caster

you still get asskicked by sp

[worthy fern]

So asskicks everyone

[crude bane]

and get stun

[worthy fern]

Right now

[crude bane]

then they got your back

and you still die

[worthy fern]

Sp**

[zenith marlin]

DK is has the retri option of self heal instead do dmg tho

[gritty salmon]

Arms got big hits that’s what’s going for it

[craggy socket]

What build yall deciding to run for fury post nerf?

[worthy fern]

Saying you die to sp is irrelevant because they’re like the most s tier spec in the game rn

[crude bane]

demon hunter build

[zenith marlin]

I loved it when rogues popped all CDs on me as a DK only to get hit by 2 back to back Death Strikes xdxd

[gritty salmon]

I’m still going annihilator

[crude bane]

and probably windwalker one

[craggy socket]

ok

WW and DH are trash

warrior for life

[gentle horizon]

Can I get a fury build with rotation? I swear tg both wowhead and icyveins rotations are based on talents not in their talent builds

[green wyvern]

doesn't arms shit on sp though

if you can live

[full quiver]

lol

[green wyvern]

physical damage executes

[dry trail]

warrior 4 life

[gritty salmon]

But if it’s bad I would go raging blow again @craggy socket You need more rage to upkeep slaughterhouse

[dry trail]

in game and in real life

[craggy socket]

8 min solo shuffle q 😦

[worthy fern]

Take shatter pvp talent into sp

[gritty salmon]

SP is very good against warriors

[worthy fern]

And bust all their shields

[crude bane]

@craggy socket tf fr ?

[rare ibex]

Consider yourself lucky.

[gritty salmon]

SP and some rogues are the only things is I struggle with

But mostly SP

[dry trail]

post ur build goodfella

talentz

[gritty salmon]

I will

Once I’m on the computer

[zenith marlin]

as fury i actually have to pop all CDs to win

vs SPs

vs some rando SP player in world with full honor gear

[gentle horizon]

what nerfs did fury have?

[gritty salmon]

Bloodthirst healing nerfed 33%

And slaughterhouse

[crude bane]

im watching vanguards having 9 min q in soloQ tf

no 1 is playing?

[gritty salmon]

Meaning 2% healing from bloodthirst

And some big nerf to slaughterhouse but we’re not sure how it works yet

Does it completely reset

[green wyvern]

ye solo q is for pansies

[gritty salmon]

Do we have the time to build up stacks

[elfin surge]

this is a bad way to say it haha

[gritty salmon]

We will see

[green wyvern]

it's mathematically correct tho isn't it?

[gritty salmon]

True but technically it’s true

[worthy fern]

@crude bane everyone’s at work my guy

Queue will pop off tonight

[gritty salmon]

We all knew fury self healing would get nerfed

[elfin surge]

kinda but its not all true

[gritty salmon]

In the self healing department fury we’re let of fine

[elfin surge]

bloodthirst healing during enraged regen is the same

pretty much

[green wyvern]

true

[gritty salmon]

Yes

[brazen rock]

55th time muds explained this btw

yall owe him rent at this point

[gritty salmon]

Blizzard didn’t really nerf our self healing

Nor our damage

[crude bane]

things is you have to store rage before use rampage when SH is about to drop this is ...weird

[elfin surge]

people just open details and see bloodthirst on top and assume its all nerfed by 33% even tho its enraged regen pad

[gritty salmon]

The only relevance is slaughterhouse

[crude bane]

if its the gameplay

[gritty salmon]

And for the people who go raging blow build the bloodthirst nerf was completely irrelevant

[elfin surge]

all blizzard had to do was make bloodbath not have a shorter cd in pvp and the annihilator build dies

btw

[gritty salmon]

Yea

Bloodbath cd is literally instant because the CD is the same as a GCD

[elfin surge]

its like 1.1s or something while enraged

[gritty salmon]

1 sec

[worthy fern]

Gutting slaughterhouse is a huge deal though

[crude bane]

just saw a demono tanked a rogue mage full burst and then get back to 70 % hp cant wait to face them

[worthy fern]

Worst ms in game now

[gritty salmon]

I don’t think it’s that big but we will see how that’s applied

[wheat jay]

its still up to 36%

and during cds you get that in what, 4 globals?

[worthy fern]

You will get 36 only during cooldowns

[drowsy depot]

anyone got trophy of strife yet?

[wheat jay]

ye

[elfin surge]

slaughter nerfs are big but healing and damage relatively the same.

[wheat jay]

cuz 40% was kinda busted

[worthy fern]

Play with dh or feral and don’t take slaughter

[wheat jay]

especially since it was permament xd

[gritty salmon]

Which funny because everyone was complaining about our self healing

[drowsy depot]

how you get trophy?

[rare ibex]

these SS games are way sweatier with everyone at the same gear

[wheat jay]

good

as they should be

xD

[drowsy depot]

^

[sage raptor]

SS?

[wheat jay]

winning games should come down to skill

not gear gap

[crude bane]

skill ?

tf is that

im only wining cause class diff

never heard about this

[wheat jay]

yes i know

you're a fury main

[sage raptor]

It's something only autists seem to have in pvp

[crude bane]

source?

[wheat jay]

but sometimes you need to show some skill

[gritty salmon]

How important is intervene to you

[sage raptor]

It's not

I dropped it

[crude bane]

does intervene do damage ?

if not i dont take it

[gritty salmon]

No its basically utility

helps your guy out

[crude bane]

pff

dont care

[sage raptor]

Intervene to get closer to a guy? No thanks. Sounds gay to me.

[wheat jay]

intervene best skill

[crude bane]

they just have tu play better

[onyx vale]

intervene is the single good thing in warrior's kit

throw away everything else but keep intervene

[wheat jay]

someone on your healer

you intervene

[elfin surge]

intervene still nerfed and safeguard gone btw

[wheat jay]

boom

more dmg

[gritty salmon]

I have three talent, one for arena, one for pve and for bgs

[crude bane]

hmmm thx for the tips i might think about take this

GOT YOU

[dry trail]

post me ur talentz

[tribal wedge]

oops

[crude bane]

IN 4K

MESSI

C'est TROP

[tribal wedge]

[crude bane]

il est nul achier btw ce sale nain il joue SP c'est sur SIUUUUU

[dry trail]

camambert ?

[crude bane]

yes with baguette

and whine

[dry trail]

good

[gritty salmon]

Now hear me out before you laugh, I think were gonna need that extra 30 rage, and going fresh meat really helps to keep up enrage, which means I dont have to take enduring rage giving me a new pvp talent option

Were gonna need more rage after the slaughterhouse nerf

[dry trail]

no d stance my man ?

[wheat jay]

bro

this shit wack as hell

[gritty salmon]

The only reason why I would have D stance

is becuase i need intervene

[drowsy depot]

no D no intervene POGGIES

[worthy fern]

D stance as fury is wack

[gritty salmon]

If you dont have a good healer that can kite, go intervene

[crude bane]

rallying cry isnt worth ?

[worthy fern]

But no intervene is bad

[gritty salmon]

No because you need a pvp talent

To make it good

And you cant afford it

2 charges give warbringer a lot of more consistent damage

[drowsy depot]

please keep talking 🙂

[near delta]

Intervene has no purpose into casters now right?

Since safeguard is gone

[gritty salmon]

Bloodrage imo is gonna be critical because you are going to get kited a lot

and you would want to keep up with them

due to nerf on slaughterhouse

That build is experimental, its only if you want full damage

[wheat jay]

mobility

[near delta]

Well yeah I mean defensively

[elfin surge]

mobility

[crude bane]

the extra rage with no cleave i just cant

[lean burrow]

who needs mobility

[wheat jay]

Mud knows that mobility is how you win games

[gritty salmon]

this is a2s build

[wheat jay]

can't win game if you can't get close to enemy

[crude bane]

oh oke

[gritty salmon]

lol

[near delta]

Being able to get to your bros is massive

[wheat jay]

that's why i have 5 charges on my hunter

[onyx vale]

why would you play warrior without intervene

[gritty salmon]

This doesnt work for solo or 3s lmfao

[crude bane]

who playing 2S

[onyx vale]

that's like playing rogue without stealth

[crude bane]

tho

most garbage mode ever made

[near delta]

We've entered full fury

[wheat jay]

easy rating

[simple rock]

they want you to kill 200 mofos for this quest. conq equivalent gear

[spice hornet]

2nd frost mage ive encountered where their 2nd most dmg is ring of fire lol

[wheat jay]

POG

[crude bane]

ill go 0-2K4 2K4 2K4 2K4 in my pvp profile

[lean burrow]

does intervene work on magical melee attacks like festering/scourge strike?

[thick reef]

Now I have an excuse to bully on War Mode 200 times

[gritty salmon]

The thing is, fury has a lot of mobility with bloodrage as a pvp talent

[wheat jay]

everyone runs faster than you tho

[gritty salmon]

Bloodrage doesnt give you mobility, but it gets you out of roots

[wheat jay]

you're wheelchair

[gritty salmon]

10 % movement speed

if enraged

And then theres that enchant

[wheat jay]

10% is nothing

[craggy socket]

@elfin surge you streamin today

[elfin surge]

ye

[crude bane]

why demono is so cancer tf

[barren crane]

is there a stance macro that works across all specs? mine doesn't work for prot

[crude bane]

they should put a limit on minions in arena

[elfin surge]

watch me suffer as i play an F tier melee

[gentle horizon]

so is Fury no longer viable?

[crude bane]

yes it is

[elfin surge]

warrior isnt viable

[gritty salmon]

No its very much viable

[elfin surge]

💀💀💀

[crude bane]

but why play warrior when WW and dh exist

this is the real question

[nova wadi]

yoyo which infurious gear piece we crafting? boots?

[lean burrow]

pve but still funny

[onyx vale]

[woeful solstice]

kekw

[sage raptor]

C lolol

[crude bane]

XDDDDDDDDDD

[sage raptor]

Has ret ever been good in pve?

[crude bane]

I FEEL THE SUFFER FROM HERE

AND I LIVE IN FRANCE BRO

[woeful solstice]

LMAO

fury god tier in shuffle

we're getting nerfed again

[lean burrow]

anyone knows this? pls

[glad pagoda]

fury?

[woeful solstice]

abuse it while you can

[crude bane]

THIRD WIRLD COUNTRY IN EUROPE AND I FEEL THE SUFFER

[woeful solstice]

yeah

[gentle horizon]

build?

[woeful solstice]

we're defo getting nerfed its busted

BgEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKHAAAAAAAAAAIESgSCQENhIQ0IESCQSKJBkkkESyBSESkWKJJgkEAAAAA

[sage raptor]

Scourge strike yes. Clawing shadows no

[wheat jay]

hey thats my spec

[dry trail]

you should see romania 💀

[sage raptor]

FS yes

[wheat jay]

and my other spec

and my other spec

and paladin /spit

[green wyvern]

fury is dead bros

[gritty salmon]

Oh yea warrior is garbage in pve

[lean burrow]

ty

[gentle horizon]

ty

[gritty salmon]

Tbf warrior has mostly always been garbage in pve for the past 2 expansions

[elfin surge]

can u trade trophy of strife ?

[sage raptor]

Yw

[gritty salmon]

With the exception of that 1 month where fury tier set wasnt nerfed

[crude bane]

warrior in legion

was so nice to play

but only 1 Patch

kekw

[dry trail]

ah the good old days 2016

[gritty salmon]

I remember fdk in legion

good times

[dry trail]

roar > spear ?

[gritty salmon]

Both are very good

depends on what you want

[wheat jay]

probably spear

[gritty salmon]

Thunderous roar does a lot of bleed damage, together with the talents that help it

[wheat jay]

at least as arms

[woeful solstice]

spear almost 100% of the time imo

[dry trail]

i want to hear me roaaaaarrrrr

[wheat jay]

as fury roar might be better

[dry trail]

like a lion

[gritty salmon]

Fury roar is better

but

Spear is still a little bit better, but both are viable.

[woeful solstice]

disagree, spear is insane for keeping someone pinned

[brazen rock]

they arent listed as bound, so yes unless it changes when you get it

[woeful solstice]

damage is healable, you cant fix stupid if someone breaks los and you spear

free kill

[gritty salmon]

20% increase to bleed effects as fury

[woeful solstice]

cries in arms

[lean burrow]

solo shuffle avg wait time: 13 min

[gritty salmon]

And gushing wound

[woeful solstice]

ya shuffle que is bad lol healer shortage to the max

[gritty salmon]

LOL

Pve

Fury is the worst spec

Im dead

[crude bane]

i swear put my in ANY pug

i top reccount

even with C tier

me *

[wheat jay]

jesus christ

RECOUNT!?

fam

upgrade to details

who the fuck uses recount

its not 2005

smh

[lean burrow]

wtf is this

[crude bane]

oh yeah

its not 2005

[wheat jay]

how did oyu get it?

O_O

[crude bane]

SO WHY YOU ALL FUCKER USE CLASSIC NUMBER

CLOWN

[onyx vale]

i don't

probably should

[wheat jay]

who uses classic number

for what

[lean burrow]

it's on vendor

[wheat jay]

oh ye

need trophy of strife iirc

[lean burrow]

int based sword, wtf

[wheat jay]

;D

oh wait

int lmao

for holy pala

xD

[lean burrow]

2hander with int

[thick reef]

Evoker weapon

Or HPal who wants to pretend he is in Legion again

[craggy socket]

Fury is still insane

can confirm

UNDEFEATED IN SOLO

[crude bane]

wait until 2K+ solo

[earnest zodiac]

Hey guys trying to understand something. Is slaughterhouse effectively working like necrotic wounds?

[lean burrow]

there's also no dk/paladin conquest pieces

[gritty salmon]

Yes

[crude bane]

when healer play with their keyboard and mouse

[lean burrow]

no transmog collecting

[earnest zodiac]

Bless. Thank you.

[glad pagoda]

build?

[gritty salmon]

I’m 100% sure that’s where they copied it from

[onyx vale]

wait 2k+ when rogues get their arms and global you

can't heal if you die in one gcd

[craggy socket]

BgEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKHAAAAAAAAAAAhk0QCQENpISkENChkAQkEQSSSikkEBRaplkAkEAAAAA

[mild pier]

Why the fuck do mistweavers have touch of death?

[crude bane]

fun fact : ppl with bloody token can have 2 weapon this week

1Hand

[gritty salmon]

It doesn’t matter

They are legit one of the worst healer specs

[wheat jay]

really?

[mild pier]

Dude hit me for 100k so it feels like it matters

[wheat jay]

that's ass XD

is trophy once a week or what?

[gritty salmon]

It’s exceptional

[crude bane]

one with 900 conq

[hidden jackal]

how many trophies can u get

per week

[crude bane]

second with trophy upgrade

or ima wrong ?

trophy are bound?

[gritty salmon]

Fury people crying because we need 2 2h

[crude bane]

thats your signal to play arms

kek

[mild ermine]

Dumb question, is there any point in upgrading the pvp gear?

[tribal nimbus]

For pve only

[mild ermine]

If it all scales to static item levels in PvP zones?

[thick reef]

This mans unironically playing Arms

[mild ermine]

Thank you

[thick reef]

When you can't murderfuck other players

[full quiver]

What r u smoking

They're strong rnow

[lean burrow]

slaughterhouse is cringe now, I thought it would work like necrotic wounds

instead it is like mongoose bite

[gritty salmon]

Im basing my opinion on mw by shadowlands

[gritty salmon]

is it on ptr yet

[full quiver]

They weren't bad s3 or s4

[gritty salmon]

Eh

[full quiver]

There just aren't many mw mains lol

[lean burrow]

just tested it on pvp dummy

NA already has update

[gritty salmon]

Wait what

you guys have an update?

tf blizzard

I gotta wait until tommorow

[thick reef]

Euro moment

[gritty salmon]

Typical blizzard elitism

[spice hornet]

assass does too much dam

[gritty salmon]

Can you record it

if you are gentle

how does it work

[full quiver]

Each rampage applies 12%

Debuff lasts 9s with no refresh

Stacks 3x

What more info do u want lol

[gritty salmon]

Im asking how quick can you get

[mystic barn]

He said he wanted a video

[gritty salmon]

2 stacks

Etc

[green wyvern]

Mud already explained

[elfin surge]

omg u can trade trophy of strife