pvp

[brazen rock]

feral/arms will fuck im betting

[mild thunder]

it better

[brazen rock]

you leave the feral alone, he solos your whole team. Every second a cat gets to spend out of bear is a W

[mild thunder]

still holding out for either a def stance buff or IP return

[mild thunder]

true, now that they can just spam PW for infinite damage

[quick carbon]

I think warrior sp and warrior lock r also going to fuck

[brazen rock]

its the frenzy / swarm goes combined with 1min convoke

its insane they get both

[mild thunder]

tbf i dunno how often they're gonna run convoke in 3s

so much harder to get use out of than 2s

[pearl prism]

just FYI, the best feeling I got from skirms was 2s with a SP

so IMO

SP/warr/healer is going to be a great 3s team

[brazen rock]

thats probably because SP is overtuned as fuck lmao

[mild thunder]

and they sacrifice like 12% extra tiger's fury damage to take convoke, which is pretty big

[brazen rock]

but yeah sp/warr will be great.

[pearl prism]

yeah for sure

capitalise on SP in a 3s team before they get nerfed

[quick carbon]

Tsg will be rlly good if sp lock is going to be insane

[near delta]

Outside of orc, umm maybe panda? Undead is generally really good but we already have a fear break. Tauren could be quite good for arms with that extra crit damage.

[mild thunder]

wouldn't belf be really good too? even though the racial is kinda annoying when they have a ton of buffs

[quick carbon]

belf seems kinda mid

and it’s mog potential is below average

[mild thunder]

cant even dispel combust anymore

[quick carbon]

I think if ur not dwarf/dark iron dwarf rn ur insane

[mild thunder]

gnome tho

[quick carbon]

I mean yeah gnomes good

[brazen rock]

fem orc forever

idc

[near delta]

Yeah but hpal is not very good. If hpal became like S1 of SL it'd be dope af

[quick carbon]

Just expecting feral/assassination is going to be so dominant that dwarf and dark iron just have omega value

[brazen rock]

stop i dont want to race change smh

[near delta]

Also, if sub becomes the meta orc will still have some value

[brazen rock]

2h swords look like shit as dwarf

[mild thunder]

fair point

[near delta]

Cause it takes a gcd from their burst

[brazen rock]

and i will forever mog the ravendreth 2hand sword as arms

[quick carbon]

I thought you were a fury Stan

[brazen rock]

im a whatever spec is better stan

[quick carbon]

Did the giga mortal strikes convert u

…

[brazen rock]

neither is hard to play

compared to rdruid

[quick carbon]

I just find arms omega more fun

[mild thunder]

ayckchually fury is very complicated and high skill-ceiling 🤓

[quick carbon]

[brazen rock]

i do find arms more fun

i wont deny that

[near delta]

It'd be hilarious if everyone race changes to dwarf/dark iron dwarf then they nerf the crap out of assa/feral/aff/sp

[brazen rock]

but i wont play it if it means im struggling to win games

[quick carbon]

true

ret warrior might be rlly good as arms too

[brazen rock]

rets seem pretty shit idk

[quick carbon]

Doesnt ret have 1m sac

[brazen rock]

yeah all pal specs get improved hands now

[quick carbon]

I think ret and warrior can keep eachother alive pretty well

With sac banner intervene disarm duel bop

[mild thunder]

yea but who wants to play warr/ret for another xpac

[brazen rock]

sure, but rets themselves don't add pressure

they do negative damage

[quick carbon]

rets can do pretty good sustained damage tho

[brazen rock]

maybe some cringe damp comp with fatality sure

[quick carbon]

Wel kts what bramot told me anyway

[brazen rock]

but i aint about that life.

[near delta]

From the few skirms I've played they did really good damage still

[quick carbon]

I LOOOOVE DAMP

WLS BABYYYY

[near delta]

Does it get worse with full gear/tier?

[brazen rock]

I've done nothing but run them over the last 2 weeks so idk

[quick carbon]

I got my back blown out by a ret in skirms last night

They feel fine

[brazen rock]

Only specs that scare me rn are ww monks, rogues and SPs

and only good WW monks that kite, so 1 out of every 100

[quick carbon]

I qued into a ret dk and they both felt like they did obscene damage

[mild thunder]

not me

[brazen rock]

yeah thats because you were playing arms

[quick carbon]

truuuu

I mean

[brazen rock]

im sorry but its true

[quick carbon]

I killed the dk because

BIG DAM

But it was scary

[mild thunder]

are you running exploiter often?

[quick carbon]

yeah

I use exploiter baseline

[brazen rock]

Yeah exploiter feels too good not to use.

[quick carbon]

cuz you get sudden death procs at the start of combat pretty often

and you just have busted burst

[mild thunder]

has it carried over any of the SL nerfs?

[quick carbon]

yeah

It’s still huge tho

[mild thunder]

coolcool... arms doesnt really have many better capstones anyway ig

[quick carbon]

unhinged is good tho

[brazen rock]

i hate it

[quick carbon]

I don’t like it either but it has value

[brazen rock]

I hate feeling forced to sit in storm for damage

cc break and thats it

[mild thunder]

i also dont wanna run bladestorm proc over recklessness

reck just feels so good as arms

[quick carbon]

one thing ill never undderstandd

is how fury mains

play with no bladestorm

i cant IMAGINE not having bladestorm

id cry

[brazen rock]

hellll no

avatar activating reck

[mild thunder]

imagine losing bladestorm as fury

[brazen rock]

is 1000/10

[mild thunder]

when fury bladestorm was the onbe that actually did damage 🤡

[quick carbon]

reck as arms

is so

prime

ive been BEGGING

for reck back

feels so nice

[mild thunder]

it literally just makes more sense for arms i stg

i just wish they'd buff the duration a tad, but maybe thats wishful-thinking

[quick carbon]

i wish we had

wod reck

THE OLD RECK ANIMATION WAS ALSO CLEAN ASF

[mild thunder]

i wish we had wod everything :))

[quick carbon]

bro i rlly liked wod warrior

for both specs

[mild thunder]

wod fury was goated

[quick carbon]

wod fury is my fav version of fury

[mild thunder]

back when fury had a proper rotation

idk why they even reworked it man

[quick carbon]

BACK WHEN FURY JUST DID THE MOST GIGA BURST

OF ALL TIME

[mild thunder]

legion was cool, but it pooped on so many classes

i played a ton of enh through mop/wod, and hoooooooooooly they butchered it in legion

[quick carbon]

i pref wod arms to legion arms too

they ruined dk in legiontoo

xc

[mild thunder]

wod just had some of the coolest classes

especially melee

undying frost dk's with death siphon

[copper hare]

arms war legit only had ms rend and whirlwind in wod

[mild thunder]

necrotic plague

[copper hare]

how was that goated

[mild thunder]

was so cool

[copper hare]

it was bland af

[quick carbon]

i said fury was goated

i like other versions of arms more than wod arms

but i do like wod aarms

[copper hare]

but fury was even worse with wild strikes imo

both specs were fun in hfc but before that

it was tragic

[quick carbon]

idk i have such nostalgia ab wod

cuz it was the first expansion i wasnt dookie in

the sudden death dam as fury will forever hold a place iin my heart

[mild thunder]

siegebreaker tho :)))

[quick carbon]

SIEGEBREAKER

AHHHH

IT WAS SO DOGSHIT

BUT SO GOODD

AHHH

[mild thunder]

before they turned it into shitty colossus smash for fury

and then removed it lol

[copper hare]

I still remember that clip, war was probably the best class in terms of gameplay in mop, insane toolkit, good rotation, a lot of buttons. Then wod came and they butchered everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J4CZ0RMn1I&t

[quick carbon]

it was still

fun

to hit mages

with 200k executes

[mild thunder]

when you could reach mages... frost cc was so aids in wod

[quick carbon]

WOD TURBO

[mild thunder]

i wonder how good turbo is gonna be s1 DF

after the enh healing nerfs

[onyx vale]

wod arms is the worst thing to ever happen to this wretched game

[sharp meteor]

mortal strike go chop

[quick carbon]

actual picture of me

inwod

[onyx vale]

and all the people going " hur hur hur stop criticising before its live, its much better than mop where everyone has everything "

ahhhh just thinking about wod fills me with an insane amount of rage

[quick carbon]

ill always love wod

cuz i got my first 2k/2200 in it

[onyx vale]

[quick carbon]

ill always love legion because i got my first 24

cx

ill still dislike sl tho

[coarse dagger]

WoD Fury was pretty shit, too.

[hasty fractal]

Hi all, Ithe past week I've been playing the Fury annihilator build linked in the pins. But I have some questions, is this recommended mainly because of the enormous self-healing? I admit I have lived through some tough fights with the healing. But these are always arena specific right? I mainly do rbgs, got duelist a couple times last xpack in rbgs. This build seems to have almost no cleave and aoe. For rbgs, I'm thinking a standard RB/spear build with WF talents would be necessary for spinning?

[sharp meteor]

at very least need imp ww and meat clever ya

[sharp meteor]

i barely remember wod fury

aside from siegebreaker punting people

doot

[copper hare]

wild strike on a 0.75 gcd which you always pressed twice due to server lag and it consumed all your rage

fucking horrible

[regal locust]

I just killed a fully honor geared frost DK in one storm bolt stun at the beginning of an arena match 😂

[autumn whale]

was he AFK?

[regal locust]

No I stunned him while he was moving on his mount

[spice hornet]

Picked up furry two week ago and going back to sub rouge after these nerfs. Fuck warrior it sucks

[burnt hull]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/LQJ7Lxo31-1QK/d1337xcitOc7?invite=cr-MSxoRVgsMjUyMTg1MzEs

can i get some advice on how to play this differently

feel like i played it selfish and got my monk killed

[whole forge]

you trinket 2 sec trap

2-3

[mild thunder]

Bt build is probably still better for rbgs, just drop points out of vicious contempt for improved ww and meat cleaver if you want aoe

[civic storm]

Hey guys my UI is kinda crap I feel

Just wondering what kind of addons do you guys use and think are a MUST. I don’t really pve that much so a clean ui with like whatever other addons I need to track kicks and CDs ?

I have plater , details and gladiusEx

Or is that pretty much all you NEED for arena ?

[brazen rock]

That's really all you need.

Clean up clutter. No action bars filled with toys to click. Clean, concise. You want the needed information given to you in the simplest way possible

[civic storm]

Ok cool thanks , is it gladius that I can edit too track kicks and cds ?

Do you track both offensive and defensive ? Also stuns ?

[brazen rock]

Gladiusex or w/e

[elfin surge]

[brazen rock]

I track big CDs only

[mild thunder]

sArena > gladius

[brazen rock]

Eh, preference

[mild thunder]

Gladius just looks so out of place

[civic storm]

sArena ?

I’ll have to look it up !

[lunar stump]

https://youtu.be/8XlIW1i9XNs

[brazen rock]

Hansol

[lunar stump]

Why are you laughing ?

[quick carbon]

mage players

[brazen rock]

Because it's hansol? The dude that literally sexually harassed a girl on one of his drunk streams?

[lunar stump]

What ?!

[mild thunder]

Also he plays mage

[quick carbon]

the majority of r1 players could actually be prosecuted for what they do to people on wow lmao

[brazen rock]

old lore my guy

Look up any of his old drunk streams, the dudes fucking weird

[civic storm]

Thanks man !

[wheat crane]

Hes a world of warcraft streamer

Not exactly the cream of the crop

[bitter spoke]

Hey guys, anyone got an active discord for RBG groups for tomorrow?

[wheat crane]

Also i swapped off spear for thunderous roar

Exceptionally entertaining

[spice hornet]

Eww wtf

[wheat crane]

Fff i need to hit 70 on my dumb alt or im gonna miss vaults

[brazen rock]

rbgs this expac? 🤢

[spice hornet]

You’ll be fine you have a whole week lol takes like 8 hours

[wheat crane]

True already banked a ton of honor

Didnt even start my bis human female warrior tho

[high creek]

whats this i hear about boa honor

[brazen rock]

from bg boxes

very rare drop

i got 1 across about 60 boxes.

[bitter spoke]

Haha, what’s wrong with rbg’s? Sorry, first time taking PvP seriously

[sharp meteor]

It's just rng.

10-15% chance from box to get 150 honor boa token.

[wheat crane]

Its like if you joined a mythic 3 key and everyone is telling you how great they are at the game but are 1 boss down in heroic raid while you cleared world first mythic kill

[stuck root]

Ya ive gotten i think 3 total from maybe 15 boxes

[brazen rock]

its a dumbshit bracket full of 5iq monkeys that get 2k in rbg and think theyre top shit

[wheat crane]

Thats rbg mains in a nutshell

[brazen rock]

poisoned by ego

[stuck root]

RBG is a meme format

[brazen rock]

IF they introduced a 1 class cap, and removed tanks entirely, it might be "ok"

[spice hornet]

@elfin surge no cappy what u playing at first? fury?

[wheat crane]

Solo q, no tanks 6-9 players, see the little shits squirm

[elfin surge]

yea

[spice hornet]

still determining an arena buiild?

[elfin surge]

i can prob find an arms build that works

[brazen rock]

idk

i hate arms capstones

[thick reef]

There is an easy fix

[brazen rock]

?

[thick reef]

Play Fury

[brazen rock]

[mild thunder]

Having execute-focused stuff like AJ, fatality and exploiter is really cool and thematic for arms pve, but it kinda cucks arms pvp

[brazen rock]

Bro the amount arms spikes in pve dps during execute is absurd

like actually beyond retarded

[tawdry totem]

[mild thunder]

Nothing more fun than going from 10th to 1st in meters by spamming execute

[brazen rock]

i cant wait to see the fatality executes

[mild thunder]

Kargish alt account

[mild thunder]

Fatality defs one of my fav new talents for arms

Shame it’s kinda useless in PvP lmao

[spice hornet]

[brazen rock]

all of the arms capstones being bad is a real bummer tbh

[mild thunder]

Yuppp

The +3sec bladestorm talent is a joke lmao

[brazen rock]

likes muds been saying though, arms is 1-2 damage buffs away from running away with just retard mongo damage

[mild thunder]

100%, but i dont want damage buffs

give us defensives plsss

[thick reef]

With enough damage, you don't need defensives

[mild thunder]

sure, but i dont know many arms mains that want the spec to be another glass-cannon... kinda goes against the class fantasy

[daring dagger]

I'd like to occasionally play random bgs without having to rely on a healer

[wooden grove]

Melee glass cannon is the least fun glass cannon

[mild thunder]

bulky plate melee spec that's literally a warrior? sounds like they should be a squishy glass cannon

[sage raptor]

The idea of a plate class being squishy is so weird to me

[spice hornet]

i charged someone on their mount with warbringer and nothing happened the warbringer missed and they werent stopped or slow in anyway kekw

[high creek]

do i get both 2hers first? feelsbadman lol

[spice hornet]

yesss

[thick reef]

Always rush Weapons first

You want your choppas ASAP

[sharp meteor]

i think offhand is comparable to standard gear

but you do need mainhand asap

[high creek]

ya got MH, figured OH was more for stats, but i am new to the whole double 2her lifestyle

[jovial meteor]

The anxiety of what spec to play running through me

[sharp meteor]

both?

just get 2h wep, prioritize haste, swap around

[jovial meteor]

Arms is crit first though?

[halcyon ocean]

Is single minded fury viable in pvp?

[brazen rock]

no

[brazen rock]

and haste, just avoid mast

[thick reef]

If you want to follow in the steps of Kurt Cobain, sure

[sharp meteor]

its probably fine

tg seems better

[jovial meteor]

When you say "and haste" does that mean prioritising haste or haste is just what you go second after crit?

[brazen rock]

i like some haste

crit still big important

idk gear is cheap, play with it

[jovial meteor]

That was the plan, but professor sent back two assignments to redo so have to be specific with honour spending 🤮

[wraith nymph]

Is there a macro for going into berserker stance that won't put you into no stance if you press it again?

I don't want it to swap between berserking and defensive, I want it to enter berserking then if I press it again while in berserking it doesn't change the stance

[karmic tundra]

Even If its possible Why would u want that?

[surreal pawn]

/cast !Berserker Stance the ! prevents it from dropping p sure

[near delta]

Umm how about just a toggle macro?

#showtooltip
/use [nostance:1]Defensive Stance;[spec:2,nostance:2]Berserker Stance;[spec:1/3,nostance:2]Battle Stance

[wraith nymph]

I keep accidently using cds while in d stance so I want a macro so when I press avatar/reckless etc it puts me into b stance

[near delta]

Ohhh. Yeah you could do that, but if you're running into that issue you might be sitting d stance too much

[wraith nymph]

Every arena game is against a rogue I sit in d stance until then try to one shot me xd

then forget to swap out when I try to burst lol

[flat dome]

Fatality is lowkey broken lol

[brazen rock]

areyousureaboutthat.gif

[runic wedge]

What spec you guys running for 2s/shuffle tomorrow

[thick reef]

Fury

Anyone playing Arms is on copium

[brazen rock]

fury

[opal acorn]

I just saw the "Slaughterhouse duration is no longer refreshed when adding stacks"

This is a big nerf eh?

[sharp meteor]

Yer.

[river jungle]

is there a gladius version for dragonflight or is it only gladiusex now?

i see a shadowlands version

[spice hornet]

guardian druids abusing it down to the last minute before it goes away

[brazen night]

PROT SHUFFLE GOOOO

[brazen rock]

cant wait to verbally abuse tanks in shuffle tomm

[mild thunder]

God tanks are so fucking cringe in PvP

It’s always bears, too

[quick carbon]

how is ww

not nerfed

[thick reef]

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:1] !Battle Stance
/cast Avatar... etc

This will put you in battle if you're in def, but not take you out if you're already in battle

[lean burrow]

anyone got pics of what new weapon illusion looks like?

and tabard

and cloak

[mild thunder]

Because it dies by clicking on it

[muted surge]

They are not finished yet

[lean burrow]

[spice hornet]

Lmao still working on it somehow

Aka forgot to make it and too busy rn, will assign an intern soon to make it somehow look worse than the shadowlands ones

[near delta]

Middle of the season

[spice hornet]

Enchants from 2006 look better than what they’ve been producing for PvP illusions lately

Actually sad

[near delta]

Too busy completely changing how the map system works the day before the season

[spice hornet]

That was bizarre

Some type of reasoning for not giving us pvp vendors in bfa

[undone pumice]

its so peculiar to do that

like there was 0 reason

[spice hornet]

Something about we wouldn’t be able to find the vendor

[undone pumice]

for this map cycle

[sharp meteor]

probs ww and assa

[spice hornet]

@sharp meteor finally rerolled

[near delta]

[warped warren]

🐀

[raw grove]

anyone have the frozen writ vers values?

for 1/2/3 quality

[carmine nimbus]

Anyone have a good build for PVP for fury?

[warped warren]

ask @formal junco

[carmine nimbus]

Anyone playing Fury successfully mind giving me quick rundown?

Assuming with that build you use slam and whirlwind now right? Even single target? If running annihilator? I remember unbinding slam in SL

[woeful solstice]

nah

you press 2 button

bt/ramp

[carmine nimbus]

Lol for real?

[woeful solstice]

yup

well ok maybe 3

charge

[carmine nimbus]

So literally never slam or WW?

Or just when BT on CD

[delicate bronze]

rogue discord wallpaper is actually gold

[carmine nimbus]

Lol I saw that

But fr someone help me out with slam/ww.. I'm setting up spec/keybinds now would love to know

[delicate bronze]

slam is super rare

some put it but tbh i never really have it on my bar

cause sometime i pressure press it if i have nothing to press

and can delay my ramp or bt

but thats just me

[lean burrow]

outlaw is now non-existent again

[carmine nimbus]

How about WW? Not worth the global?

[delicate bronze]

its not ramp or bt

kek

[carmine nimbus]

Heh fair

[woeful solstice]

bro i literally wasnt kidding

bt/ramp

WW can pull stuff from stealth

[carmine nimbus]

Yeah true

[woeful solstice]

and if ur running a melee cleave it can pump

but i dont even have slam on my bar lmao

[delicate bronze]

theres niche uses for ww but you will be fine without them but id put ww on a keybind you aent comfortable using to leave other keybinds for stuff you use more often

[woeful solstice]

yep exactly

[carmine nimbus]

Which pvp talent in place of slaughterhouse? Or you guys still run it post nerf?

[woeful solstice]

still running it

[delicate bronze]

its still healing reduc

[carmine nimbus]

What if I run with DH? Still worth?

[delicate bronze]

i will run it

[woeful solstice]

nobody knows

[delicate bronze]

pressure is pressure

[carmine nimbus]

Ok

Was thinking Enduring Rage but might not be worth lol

[lean burrow]

battle trance and warbringer are always good

[delicate bronze]

barbarian for arcane mages 💀

[carmine nimbus]

And always use execute procs first if enraged?

[grizzled zinc]

Best professions for pvp?

[charred onyx]

its super satisfying to walk up to a group of players with war mode on but no pvp gear and just stomp them because you have pvp gear on

specially if the group attacks you first

[carmine nimbus]

Last question.. is it worth switching to sword and board still during certain periods?

[woeful solstice]

nope

[carmine nimbus]

alright cheers

I literally have so many empty keybinds lmao

Feels wrong

[muted surge]

Can’t even, second wep has a cd to equip

[fickle forge]

🐀

[mild thunder]

guys

what time is it over in the US?

[crimson holly]

Something like 3am

[sage raptor]

Soooooo wrong

[undone pumice]

🐎

[dark sparrow]

How did it feel levelling the rogue? On my warr/dk and Druid I could at least q as tank

But with how broken rogue looks, might be fun shits and giggles alt

[drowsy abyss]

Well some r1s said they probably won’t take it if paired with ms classes. Slaughterhouse stacks will bounce between 12-18/24% which is worse MS than DH. But ye, nobody (really) knows atm.

[grave forum]

Anyone know how to make a macro that uses slam if bloodthirsty is on CD?

[hard hound]

no , use your fingers

[tribal wedge]

bro fury has only 4 bind for your rotation, and 1 is barely use

[ember totem]

Hows horde in bgs atm? Anything changed yet with loss/win?

[muted surge]

Depends if you have improved or not

[left scarab]

+1

[green wyvern]

you can't

[sullen spindle]

people who ask questions need to learn how to phrase so they get a response

you need to make a radical claim which encourages people to refute it

as a result you get answers

#manipulation

[undone pumice]

ppl will correct misinfo sooner than give info

[thick reef]

Arms > Fury

[sterile carbon]

what's the versatility/haste gem called

[undone pumice]

energized malygite

[sterile carbon]

ty

[lean burrow]

finally

[inland vault]

Prot > Arms

radical enough?

[crude bane]

prot i sgay

tank is gay

now choose your destiny

[steep inlet]

what is "gay" in it

big damages, killable

its not a fucking guardian

and gay isnt an insult

[undone pumice]

you can use anythin as an insult

you froghead

you cowface

you kangaroo husband

[inland vault]

you prot player!

best insult

[drowsy depot]

spud is one of my fav insults

[glad pagoda]

u can only get glad in 3v3s?

[muted surge]

Yes

[west geyser]

How much worse is the raging blow build?

[tribal wedge]

a bit more of damage, but far less tankier

[low sparrow]

Any one that plays tank in a arena deserves to get hit by a bus. Change my mind

[steep inlet]

you don’t even know prot

and the fact it tank less like a Lock or Evoker for example

it’s a tank just by name or role

except vs physical if they hit shield ofc

but yeah keep saying gay or death wish to players it’s intelligent

[brazen rock]

fury brainrot

[low sparrow]

Spoken like a true tank player

[brazen rock]

halfways intelligent and socially aware?

[elfin surge]

troma says the most tank things ever

[worthy fern]

“Let me make every game I play last 10 minutes and then still lose” - every tank player

Sounds fun and enjoyable

[elfin surge]

"if tank was so op, why does nobody play it?" - Mortalx & Troma

[obsidian void]

@elfin surge are the frozen devotion enchants worth it

[elfin surge]

no

[worthy fern]

@elfin surge still playing fury today?

[elfin surge]

yea

will be trying arms tho

[steep inlet]

?

[elfin surge]

i wanna try it in 2s to get a better feel of its damage

[steep inlet]

My games are as fast as arms or fury

U clearly didn’t see prot dmg

I hate long games too

So I wouldn’t if it dragged the games

[obsidian loom]

Fury healing in solos is going to be top deck

[steep inlet]

the problem is clearly people thinking DF prot is past expansions prot

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/donowall-peepo-peepotalk-gif-21733159

@steep inlet

[left scarab]

why is troma constantly allowed to suck all the fun out of this discord

[steep inlet]

mud I’m sure you can understand what I mean

[elfin surge]

troma a nice guy

but i do not like his spec

[steep inlet]

wtf cinco

[left scarab]

idk man i dont feel a good vibe from u 😦

[steep inlet]

Im here since 6-7 years

Never had a problem

Even helped people for arms

[left scarab]

ok 👍

[mystic barn]

troma just can’t read the room enough to realize 99% of pvp players don’t care if tanks are good or bad in arena they just don’t want them in arena

[steep inlet]

yeah, i can understand that because of past. Sad thing is prot dmg and tankyness arent like before

[elfin surge]

arms is literally a tank/dps hybrid

[gloomy beacon]

I’ll listen to you @steep inlet

Show me the way

[steep inlet]

i dont even want people to go prot. I just want them to realize it's more a sword and board spec atm

[gloomy beacon]

Ok fine then I won’t listen to you

[steep inlet]

@worthy fern https://i.gyazo.com/92c765330599f858be10756669aaacbe.png

[gloomy beacon]

😦

[steep inlet]

check the duration

no draggin'

i do my ret dmgs

[mystic barn]

Ya tank damage is overturned rn

[worthy fern]

@steep inlet idc if your anecdotal evidence says games are fast the design of tanks in pvp are to slow the game down and make themselves and others less likely to die

[steep inlet]

it's.. false atm ?

false for prot war at least

if you said prot pal ok

[worthy fern]

Ok prot pvp talents all reduce dmg

Of enemy team

[steep inlet]

u just play morale killer

[gloomy beacon]

That doesn’t mean that’s how it’s performing now though

[mystic barn]

If it utilizes the talents that’s how it’s performing right now

[brazen rock]

oppressor reduces damage?

[steep inlet]

i play agressive talents btw

except vs RM

but np if you think it's past prot war

[gloomy beacon]

I think you can say that it brings it to the table but the unexpected side is the burst potential, or at least it was, idk how it is after the shield charge changes

[steep inlet]

with 10 minutes games and no dmg

[worthy fern]

Do you play oppressor in arena

[steep inlet]

yep thunder

[worthy fern]

Would never get full stacks

[elfin surge]

oh man

[worthy fern]

Thunder clap root is the most annoying thing I’ve experienced

[steep inlet]

warbringer/morale killer/sword and board

[worthy fern]

This xpac so far

[steep inlet]

i play

even more damgurs

[mystic barn]

hopefully they just gut tanks more in pvp so I don’t have to deal with “high damage and agro prot warriors”

[worthy fern]

Demo about 25 percent dmg reduction on 30 sec cd

[mystic barn]

Or guardian druids

[steep inlet]

20% tomorrow

[worthy fern]

Guardians just run around doing nothing and then try and 3v1 after the rest of their team is dead

[brazen rock]

and they're gutted tomorrow buddy.

[steep inlet]

why you put "". It's factual that dmgs are high haha

[mystic barn]

obviously

???

I already stated tanks are overtuned

[worthy fern]

@brazen rock good thanks I didn’t read any of the patch notes so I had no idea

[steep inlet]

btw

tomorrow we take a big hit

i will do some new tests

[mystic barn]

If it wasn’t overtuned then you wouldn’t be playing prot warrior

[brazen rock]

lol.

[gloomy beacon]

I think you both are interpreting quotes differently @steep inlet @mystic barn lol

[warped warren]

[mystic barn]

French gap

[steep inlet]

nah, i even played it in SL. I love sword and board

[elfin surge]

tanks in arena promote toxic and idiot proof gameplay. Mistakes that would result in a loss go unpunished.

[steep inlet]

mud, fury is a lot easier than prot because i take 50% more magical/bleed dmg

[warped warren]

cringepilled shield pill

[steep inlet]

i would like you to do some tests one day

to fully understand what it means

[mystic barn]

nobody wants to play tank in arena

[elfin surge]

yea let me also stat bug while im at it

go full prot main

[worthy fern]

Gut prot give Arms back Ip

[steep inlet]

listen as u want guys i dont force anyone, just dont say it do no dmg when it does, and dont say it drag/tank games for eternity when clearly not

it's even weak vs double casters

[gloomy beacon]

I’ve been playing current arms and not gonna lie but IP being gone doesn’t feel as bad as some doomers suggest

You definitely still need a healer…but that’s not all that different than usual

[worthy fern]

@steep inlet show dmg breakdown

[mystic barn]

😎 ya guys we’re weak to double caster teams, I’m sure you are gonna play that coming form a warrior discord

[elfin surge]

prot paladins giving their entire team full damage and cc immunity to try and one shot healers is fast games. but is that really fun or good gameplay?

[steep inlet]

https://i.gyazo.com/11e955752f7df6b2d4da74e665a7d611.png

and example

i have many others

[worthy fern]

No can you show your dmg

Breakdown

[elfin surge]

nerf it by 75%

[mystic barn]

Breakdowns

[worthy fern]

Just out of curiosity

[steep inlet]

ahh my bad wait

haha mud

[gloomy beacon]

Prob bunch of bleeds with big dam shockwave and shield charge

[steep inlet]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/W__wKRISgGSOfCB-sRx1F1XNkR8ir8V3PReo6BqZHS8/https/i.gyazo.com/44774cee1e81ee63856b1bf6faa6bf7e.png

tell me if u wanna traduce a shit

[worthy fern]

Shield slam at top?

[steep inlet]

always

except vs melee cleave, its rend

[worthy fern]

Is the talent nerfed similar to the set bonus

[steep inlet]

yes, 100%

instead of 200

[worthy fern]

What’s avg hit

[gloomy beacon]

Nice 114k crit lol

[mystic barn]

It shows the avg hit

In the dps breakdown

[worthy fern]

Oh right

[steep inlet]

vs melee cleave it would be Rend and Thunder

in top2

[worthy fern]

Yea idk I don’t feel like tanks should hit that hard

[mystic barn]

Yea cuz they’re tanks

Overtuned

[steep inlet]

yeah but in other hand u should see how magic fuck me

i take +50% dmgmagic

without block or armor

i fear SP lock etc

i'm squishier than fury vs thoses fuckers

[elfin surge]

troma needs to chill

[worthy fern]

Spell block it

[steep inlet]

yeah but 20 sec duration :(

good for their burst

[muted surge]

Troma needs to play a real spec

Go play sub rogue

[lean burrow]

how does spell block work?

[steep inlet]

dont worry i'm Arms lover too

[lean burrow]

you face towards casters?

[steep inlet]

exactly

[lean burrow]

what if it's dot damage

[elfin surge]

troma needs to tank my mythic dungeons and stay out of arenas

[steep inlet]

haha

good question gent

[lean burrow]

or no projectile spells

[steep inlet]

i need to do even more tests for spell block

[worthy fern]

Looks like it would be casted spells and you have to shield block during in no?

[steep inlet]

i think so

anw prot has a lot of flaws vs hybrid/casters and bleed (feral assa fuck me)

i dont recommend it for everyone

and wanna retry Arms asap

[sly walrus]

Mid do double arms dungeons with me we make arms look ok

[mystic barn]

😎

just do this troma

[steep inlet]

wtf is this

[lean burrow]

holy shock

[mystic barn]

nope

death strike

[steep inlet]

ah pré nerf

[mystic barn]

nope

[steep inlet]

wtf

[mystic barn]

(its called exploiting tanks in pvp)

[steep inlet]

ah blood DK

[lean burrow]

[bright stream]

aka no one cares

[steep inlet]

blood dk has no dmg in arena nope ?

[mystic barn]

uh

lol

[steep inlet]

never tried tbh

war lover

[mystic barn]

no, its overtuned like prot

and guardian and any tank

snooze shit

[steep inlet]

well giga nerfs inc tomorrow

or today for US

[mystic barn]

good

[lean burrow]

bm monk

[flat zephyr]

this has probably been answered before but is slaughterhouse still viable as a pvp talent for season 1? Or is it better to swap it for something else?

[zenith marlin]

brother my hiips are fked from deadlifts

but its deadlift day

[stark agate]

What are recommended professions for pvp?

[zenith marlin]

mining

i can probably hit conventional tbf

mining so u can mine the reagants to craft the pvp epics

[stark agate]

with bs?

im mining/engi atm'

[zenith marlin]

optional cuz work orders

and engi is BiS for world pvp

[idle cliff]

imagine conventional not being your standard

[zenith marlin]

i do sumos man

[idle cliff]

Ew

Go play DH

[zenith marlin]

cant repetetively do conventional for years

cant even sumo for long

im trash

sumo just moved my lumbar pain to my hips

[idle cliff]

Sounds like you shouldn't be deadlifting and should be working on your basics

But who am I to talk?

[zenith marlin]

@stark agate professions change nothing rly, but mining makes it easier to get the pvp epics

i think my prob right now is rest

3x a week isnt working out very well

it does for a month then I start to crumble

also thinking about increasing protein

[coarse dagger]

Deadlifting 3x a week?

[zenith marlin]

yeah

[brazen rock]

sounds like your nutrition + rest isn't up to par with your load and intensity.

[coarse dagger]

Should only do two at most if you're going heavy.

[brazen rock]

also dont deadlift 3x a week lmao

[zenith marlin]

another thing might be that I usuall do 12-15 reps

[brazen rock]

2x max

...

you truly have fury brainrot

[zenith marlin]

lool

high volume rly fks the joints

[brazen rock]

back down to max 3x5 for working loads on deadlifts

2x a week

[zenith marlin]

more than willing to try that lmao

[brazen rock]

3-5 min rest between sets

[coarse dagger]

I'd do like 6-10 reps close to failure 1-2x a week for strength.

[idle cliff]

Why the hell do you DL 3x a week? or even 2x?

[coarse dagger]

Squats/Deads have the highest recovery time for lifts, though.

[zenith marlin]

i do 2 rest days then the 3rd day is my workout day

monday > thursday > sunday, always rotating

[idle cliff]

I have no idea what you're trying to achieve

You trying to get bigger or stronger?

[zenith marlin]

eh sorta both

[idle cliff]

Don't deadlift that often then 😄

[zenith marlin]

dont rly care about 1 rep maxes etc tho

increasing reps is fun

[coarse dagger]

Yeah, but you want to increase weight at a certain point, rather than reps.

[zenith marlin]

i havent tried a rep max since like 2020 lol

[brazen rock]

yeah its fun until you start accumulating fatigue and injure yourself.

[zenith marlin]

well im gonna take a nice 3 days off now and eat well

[coarse dagger]

I haven't 1RM'd since high school. Too risky, since I'm not a seasoned powerlifter.

[zenith marlin]

^ yeah

and reduce to 2x a week

[idle cliff]

1RM every couple of months crew checking in

[coarse dagger]

Prolly fine. Adequate spotting and warm-up. I wouldn't aim for it regularly if you're not conditioned.

[brazen rock]

1rm/month during peak week

[zenith marlin]

ofc the pvp warr discord is also the gym discord

[idle cliff]

Still too much IMO. The DL is the only lift you don't need to directly train to get better at

[coarse dagger]

I'm going back to the gym tonight after being away for a couple weeks cause of a shit case of the flu. lol

[idle cliff]

You're just frying your CNS with high rep DLs multiple times a week

[brazen rock]

2x a week is fine if he backs off to 3x5.

especially on a 3day/week gym setup

[zenith marlin]

lol last 2 months my deadlift literally regressed from that

[coarse dagger]

I agree. Hard cap deadlifting to twice a week, and maybe push it a day or two if you're not feeling it.

[zenith marlin]

i was fine with 3x squats though

[coarse dagger]

You squat and deadlift together 3x a week?

[zenith marlin]

but tbf my squat mobility is good

Nah I dropped squats cuz I moved and had to sell my rack

apartment life :S

[coarse dagger]

feels

I moved and had to switch gyms. Can't presently deadlift or hip thrust.

[zenith marlin]

damn

[coarse dagger]

Have to improvise.

[hazy isle]

Is that ur ass in the pfp

[brazen rock]

[coarse dagger]

That's my ass before 2 years of building it.

[zenith marlin]

gym membership close to me is $65 biweekly, its overpriced as hell\

[coarse dagger]

fuck that lmao. $29/mo gets me everything I need where I moved to, but I didn't go to that one cause my work schedule was too late.

[idle cliff]

Cries in 100$ / mo

[coarse dagger]

Old gym was $19/mo, and I miss it.

[idle cliff]

But at least I get proper Eleiko stuff that's well maintained

[zenith marlin]

university gym was $15 a year T^T

well tuition then again probably

[coarse dagger]

Stuck with Planet Fitness for $10/mo, since it's very convenient. Memes aside, staff is chill, and I can get a lot done.

[zenith marlin]

they have large variety of machines tbfg

bet the mage discord doesnt have this many gmygoers lmao

[coarse dagger]

Probably like that 'Strongest man in X / Weakest man in X' meme.

[hidden jackal]

all rank 1 warriors are bodybuilders, coincidence?

[idle cliff]

Chads

[coarse dagger]

I've seen Bajheera. Really brings pride and glory to warriors.

[leaden lynx]

squat every day

[brazen rock]

pretty sure magnus benches 130

[idle cliff]

KG?

[brazen rock]

lb

[idle cliff]

Big if true

[graceful ginkgo]

is that with sauna and other extra stuff? cus mine is 30/month

[outer elk]

I got a free gym in my apartment complex and I have never been. #shitwarrior

[brazen rock]

apartment gyms blow cock anyways

[leaden lynx]

i've maxed C&J at 125kg, must be why i'm stuck at 2k. gotta get bigger

[idle cliff]

No Sauna, just bullshit classes which I'd never try

[graceful ginkgo]

yeah, mine's got those as well, i've never been there lol

[coarse dagger]

My sister's gym in Cali was lit.

I wasn't lifting back then. I went for a vacation.

[elfin surge]

kappa

[worthy fern]

Everyone but mud

@eager vault one of my apt gyms in Miami had a whole set of these pneumatic air machines that could actually get fairly heavy. Haven’t seen them anywhere else either

[raw summit]

dekel would put mud into the dirt

[undone pumice]

what does that even mean

[muted surge]

I signed up to a gym yesterday so I can get glad this season

[raw summit]

machines that generate resistance with air being pressed rather than weights

[undone pumice]

how can lift stone if no stone

[fickle forge]

On the flip side, Mud's the only one with a job

[zenith marlin]

yo wym im a banker T^T

a not so fancy WFH one

[undone pumice]

bros a banker wtf

[lean burrow]

bankers make bank?

[cinder wharf]

A little question: With ranked arena, the stuff war mode will be old school no? even if we made always pvp salvage?

[brazen rock]

what warmode stuff?

the gear?

[cinder wharf]

bloody token

[brazen rock]

well you'll want to upgrade a few pieces with trophies

upgraded warmode gear is higher ilvl in pvp than honor gear

basically fill gaps until you have full conquest.

[cinder wharf]

yep but the ilvl for conquest is 424 no? and for war mode?

[brazen rock]

?

what are you asking

[cinder wharf]

the gear score war mode will be older when we have full conquest, and i ask if in war mode the stuff full conquest will be better than the equipment war mode?

[brazen rock]

yes

[cinder wharf]

because the set war mode give the bonus

[brazen rock]

conquest will be the highest ilvl possible in all pvp scenarios

the upgraded drakebreaker gear will be 3? ilvls lower across the board but have the set bonus active in world pvp.

[scenic maple]

Source PvP Item Level
Crafted Gear 398
War Mode Gear 408
Unrated PvP Gear 411
Trophy of Strife Gear 421
Unique Crafted Gear 424
Rated PvP Gear 424

[vast goblet]

[cinder wharf]

okey, thank you for the answers 🙂

[lean burrow]

wouldn't we need to farm war mode twohander for 421 ilvl?

and other gear i guess, one twohander only on second week

[brazen rock]

We have no idea how many trophies we can get a week right now.

[scenic maple]

I'd think upgrading a 2h to 421 iLvL wouldn't be a bad way to spend the Strife early on

[brazen rock]

There was an activity in the adventure guide that rewarded 4, listed the item as a crafting regent, and was not bind on pickup. So it might be tradable unless blizzard changes it.

[scenic maple]

I'd also assume random WM world quests will pop up from time to time

[brazen rock]

I think its safe to assume we'll see either 1 WQ a week for them, or 2 a week when the regular WQs reset.

It'll be timegated in someway similar to conquest.

[mild pier]

So patch notes says slaughterhouse duration doesn't refresh when adding stacks. Is that a fucking typo?

[thick reef]

Nope

[mild pier]

How tf does that make sense

They increased the amount of stacks to 12 but if the duration doesn't refresh it would literally be impossible to ever get close to 12 stacks, no?

[thick reef]

Haste & Rage dumping effectively

[mild pier]

Roight

So arms is the move now I guess

[rigid hinge]

You'll consistently have 2/3 stacks once you get the Fury 4 pc which makes Sudden Death have near perma uptime.

[zenith marlin]

will I need to do quests for the set?

[brazen rock]

not really.

[zenith marlin]

act lemme google dat

[brazen rock]

you wont be able to convert conq to tier for 6 weeks afaik

[mild pier]

Honestly completely fucking forgot about 4 piece bonus

[zenith marlin]

me 2

[elfin surge]

slaughterhouse will bounce between 12% and 24% for most of the game but you will peak a 36% ms during burst for about 2 seconds.

big nerf

but whatever

[mild pier]

Still queing as fury, fuck it

[zenith marlin]

ugh so prot 4 set basically forces me to re-spec from my preferred

with fury being annihilator its no biggie

i mean every gcd is bloodthirst but owell

what if u dont have sudden death xdxdxd

[brazen rock]

it'll change rotation to bloodbath bloodbath execute rampage.

[zenith marlin]

^ big tru

a 3rd button is introduced

[rigid hinge]

I just feel like the Fury 4 set is so good. Huge shame it's not on Arms but whatever.

[zenith marlin]

i dont have slam on my bars even tho in annihilator kekw

[brazen rock]

buddy if it was on arms we'd have an issue on our hands

[zenith marlin]

Arms is like clicking that crit talent 2 extra times lols

all that crit fantasy, crit isnt even best stat

sadge

[mild pier]

lmaoo

[brazen rock]

your going to see some absolutely dummy thicc execute/ms crits with arms 2/4 piece

[zenith marlin]

wonder if it staccs like the diminishing stacks

factual, rolling reckleness into avatar might act be fun now

is crit making comeback 😮

last I built crit was in Cata on my Retri cuz it increased my healing done as well

[brazen rock]

i geared my arms as crit > haste and it feels good. 31% crit scaled up.

[zenith marlin]

zaddy be seeing the big numbers splatter

I got the classic numbers addon

crits feel diff

i also use comic sans

[brazen rock]

disgusting

first admitted convoke abuser then afks entire expansion

now comic sans/classic numbers

[zenith marlin]

also ganks low levels

[slim knoll]

This shit pisses me off.

[brazen rock]

its good for the game.

deal with it or reroll.

[slim knoll]

Isnt it the worst ms now?

[brazen rock]

still spikes to 36% during burst window + will average higher than 12-24% once we have 4 piece

we have insane damage, insane survive

we dont need a 40% perma MS

[spice hornet]

finally the expac launches today

that 2 weeks after launch is lowkey boring

[elfin surge]

fury went from having the best consistent ms in the game to the worst overnight

[slim knoll]

wait I don't get the set bonus

how does executing give us more ms?

[spice hornet]

more ragey mm

[tribal wedge]

more rage more rampage

more ms

but less regen so idk

[slim knoll]

oooh duh

[green wyvern]

we need mud to come up with an arms build and playstyle

[sharp meteor]

more rage means mo rampage

[brazen rock]

i think the build has been mostly agreed on

[green wyvern]

that will shine despite its weaknesses

truly legendary

[brazen rock]

i can post it when server is up

[sharp meteor]

if all stacks rly fall off after 9 seconds then that is kind of awk

[full quiver]

lol

[brazen rock]

playstyle is obv fishing for 2x sudden procs and bursting

[full quiver]

welcome to UHDK life

[slim knoll]

is that set bonus on the conq gear?

[brazen rock]

it will be convertable at some point.

[full quiver]

just make sure ur stacks aren't about to fall 1/3 way through ur go 🙂

[brazen rock]

6 weeks afaik, 1 piece converted per week

similar to SL

[slim knoll]

Converted from what?

[brazen rock]

conq pieces.

[slim knoll]

Oh like that weird forge thing

[brazen rock]

yes

[slim knoll]

Damn gonna be a while! Well I'm gonna try to be positive I'm not rerolling

[brazen rock]

fury is still very solid A tier, easy to pickup and play, and if arms gets one defensive buff it'll take off.

[mild pier]

Feel like rerolling would be extreme lol

[spice hornet]

i was using magnusz

[green wyvern]

I think going full unhinged mortal strike is the best

even taking the bladestorm pvp talent

[outer elk]

after I finished leveling and gearing the warrior, i tried out evoker and leveled and geared that while waiting for s1, but man, evoker is crappy and getting trained by warriors sucked, so I'm so glad to be back on the warrior today.

[spice hornet]

unhinged isnt very fun to play whe nthere are pets around

demos everywhere

[tribal wedge]

probably the best imo, maybe fatality idk still have a doubt about it

[spice hornet]

i also dont like tying that to bladestorm, i like using BS to avoid cc/peels etc.

[green wyvern]

I know but it's like 1 talent point, and bladestorming demo's imps puts like 10 deep wounds which heals a lot

[green wyvern]

same but I feel like I have to

bleed is a meme

[brazen rock]

being stuck in bladestorm is awful

fuck unhinged

all the arms capstones are dookie

[full quiver]

DK stonks up

no more oppressive fury overlord

[spice hornet]

fking scoobz in here survival main

[full quiver]

excuse u

[spice hornet]

go off sis

[full quiver]

clearly arms main at heart

[spice hornet]

partywaffles

[full quiver]

pwaffles is cool

got all the twitch drops off his stream lmao

skewing my numbers

[spice hornet]

lol yeah no issue with him hes a chill dude

[full quiver]

pretty sure like 60% of my viewing is larros

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[full quiver]

what he's the best arms warrior

[elfin surge]

sort by xp

[full quiver]

idk i remember larros being top of the ladder as arms

when every other war had swapped to fury

🤔 😏

other than @fickle forge

[fickle forge]

😎👍

[full quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/nohemy-noh-curiosidad-shovel-desert-gif-18644047

mud pov rnow

[fickle forge]

How do you check recap?

[full quiver]

banner on front page

of twitch

then click viewer instead of community

[brazen rock]

god i wish shed bury me 💀

[full quiver]

LOL

[spice hornet]

[brazen rock]

[glossy pine]

is there going to be a guide on which items to buy first with conquest and general best order of buying

[fickle forge]

We've fallen far

[full quiver]

karg link ur recap

[fickle forge]

Couldn't find it

Do I have to be on PC?

[brazen rock]

so hold conq first week, open vault 2nd week, if no wep, buy wep. if wep, buy 3 big pieces (chest/legs/helm)

use trophies of strife to upgrade drakebreaker pieces to replace some honor stuff

the second bit, we dont know how many trophies we get a week.

[glossy pine]

what about 2nd weapon for fury and what are trophies of strife?

[brazen rock]

blizz could go full retard and we could have full drakebreaker epic pieces in 1st week

[thick reef]

Which would be pog

[full quiver]

oh probs

i was

[hidden jackal]

stop you're making me hard

[brazen rock]

im doubtful cuz its an easy carrot for blizz to dangle for the casual pvp crowd

easy 10 weeks of login metrics

[glossy pine]

what do you need to do for those drakebreaker items

[brazen rock]

the blue pieces you need bloody coins which come from WPVP, 1 per kill, 50-800 from world quests

also the war crates, 200 for first of the day, 50 for each after.

the trophies of strife, nobody knows.

[glossy pine]

ah world pvp, that's a pass from me

[twilit ridge]

Mud is a better warrior than dekel

[brazen rock]

The adventure guide had an activity that rewarded 4 trophies which is enough to upgrade ring, cloak, or neck

its "only" 11 ilvls over honor so dont stress about it too much

[glossy pine]

so should I focus on getting 2 conq weapons for fury or is 1 enough and then go for other things

[brazen rock]

Im not sure, i haven't done the math

[fickle forge]

Don't think anyone has ever sat down and figured how big off-hand weapons are

[glossy pine]

hopefully someone does in the next week or so

[brazen rock]

really by 2nd week you'll have 6 pieces most likely upgraded

2 drakebreaker pieces and 4 conq i think

[cold elm]

how do I kill rogue as fury those shits stun and run away and heal more than me

[glossy pine]

I really don't like wpvp

[brazen rock]

you'll never beat a good rogue as fury

[green wyvern]

nothing beats rogue 1v1

[brazen rock]

or any class really, overtuned as fuck rn

got lucky as arms once and 1shot him at 50% hp

[full quiver]

should've hit mud with "go off sis"

damn it

[brazen rock]

in other news wowhead just put both dps specs for war in C tier so here comes the next round of dmg buffs to send the class into orbit

[zenith marlin]

ill slap any rogue

If they pop dodge to my self heal CD, I will just use my MoP Turnip toy and heal myself off the training dummy

[brazen rock]

pve geared wpvp doesn't count.

[brazen rock]

thats fucking hilarious

[zenith marlin]

works in BGs too

Sometimes I use it just to farm Damage Done before the BG starts

[brazen rock]

that would tilt me to the moon if i was the rogue

[zenith marlin]

and then I brag

I used to use it as a Blood DK to spam Death Strike reliably in BGs

Sit there waste ppls time

[elfin surge]

@full quiver

on phone btw @fickle forge

[fickle forge]

How did you do it?

[elfin surge]

its right there

idiot

[fickle forge]

Not for me?

[elfin surge]

also first thing u see when u open twitch

[zenith marlin]

We all here just multi verse spawns of Asmongold T^T nobody takes warrior players for anything more