pvp

[severe skiff]

idk if there will be more than the one

[glad pagoda]

what abobut fury and resto druid in 2v2s?

[lean burrow]

more like

dh+prevoker

[sage raptor]

I'm not ready for that

[lean burrow]

can't even remove cc shield without hpriest

and shamans are sad rn

buff Arms on season start

[glad pagoda]

why didnt they

blizzard needs brain transplant

[sage raptor]

Especially after what they gave their new lizard freaks

[graceful ginkgo]

What did you have to do to complete it?

[severe skiff]

was 200 of an item, idk if items are from players only or if its like the zereth mortis one where mobs drop items in warmode

[graceful ginkgo]

Ok thx

[grizzled zinc]

How much better is really bg gear over green ah gear percentage wise?

[mild thunder]

a lot

sorry, a lot%

[grizzled zinc]

all right, ty

[wheat jay]

Pvp gear of any kind scales to higher ilvl in pvp combat

Meaning that pvp gear is vastly superior compared to pve gear of any kind

[wooden grove]

Pretty sure he’s talking about the green PvP gear you can buy on the ah vs the honor set

[wheat jay]

Oh

[left scarab]

its a dumb q

and really easy to work out for yourself

in about 20 seconds

[fickle forge]

No dumb Qs fam

[left scarab]

ye but come on 😦

[fickle forge]

Except if you ask if 110% MS is attainable

[left scarab]

just go AH then check pvp vendor

[wheat jay]

Is it true that dh and fury are harder than arms?

[wheat jay]

Any question related to solo shuffle rating

[raw summit]

why did dad not come back from buying milk yet

wouldnt the milk have gone bad by now

[fickle forge]

[spice burrow]

ur dad is a fury main

[wheat jay]

He is

[raw summit]

spammed rb so much he ended up behind a RMP's pillar

never returned

😔

[fickle forge]

Can't be right, he'd just wall their stun

[grizzled zinc]

Will solo shuffle drop Primal Chaos?

[raw summit]

killed through

😔

[fickle forge]

Triple resonator

Didn't trinket to save it for duel

[wheat jay]

Blurred so hard he's out of my life

[raw summit]

his 50% chance to dodge me at the store ended up being 100%

[wheat jay]

He shadowmelded and noone knows when

[fickle forge]

Trinketed the solar beam and died in bomb

[lunar kite]

I have dumb question

Does upgrading pvp gear increase its scaled stats or base ilvl stats

[mild thunder]

not for pvp, only for pve

so base ilvl

[wheat jay]

Brother used leap to intervene but on wrong target

I wasn't even in bomb

[fickle forge]

Told mom he was fine and didn't need to turtle
Famous last words

[glad pagoda]

is conquest vendor in game yet?

oh i see him

just no gear

[hollow ore]

Its ig but doesnt sell shit y

[zenith marlin]

mortal strike just dont feel the same as classic

[coarse dagger]

That's because it was designed to end lives in Classic.

[vapid rover]

@fickle forge i checked your build on arms, why you never pick Storm wall over fueled by violence ?

[warped warren]

fbv

[mild thunder]

It’s almost like classic is completely different to retail

[warped warren]

@fickle forge values a 200 hp heal per 3s over a 150k heal

[elfin surge]

Potentially lethal amounts of damage here.

[zenith marlin]

LMAO ENIYA

truuuu

it hit like spagetthi here

[fickle forge]

It should be? If it doesn't show that it's an error

[zenith marlin]

fueled by violence sounds nice name

[vapid rover]

so storm wall > fueled by violence ?

[fickle forge]

Yes

[fickle forge]

Fueled by

[vapid rover]

every war arms build on icyveins show fueled by violence picked and not storm wall x)

[fickle forge]

Yeah Imma have to go back and edit that

[vapid rover]

okok

[fickle forge]

It's a new calculator, apparently it also shows PvP talents at random 😎👍

[vapid rover]

maybe on bleed build fueled by violence can be good

better bleed dmg and with skullspliter you can proc a good sustain

[zenith marlin]

skullsplitter feels more like mortal strike than mortal strike

kekw

ngl Ilike it as a rage dump with rend too

sucks that its every 23 secs

bruh swear I play better when I listen to taylor swift

Like I make better decisions

[warped warren]

no

[fickle forge]

Plays prot pala + 2 boomkin ✅
Mediocre taste in furniture ✅
Gets stronger with Taylor Swift music ✅

Now all we need is confirmation you also play rogue

[zenith marlin]

lmao

I only level a rogue to max during content draughts, and end up ganking lowbies in stormwind

[warped warren]

[left flicker]

Rend and Skullsplitter must haves as arms ?

[zenith marlin]

Rend is, skullsplitter just for flavor

Rend is tho

actually i dont even know but I assume Rend is, it always has been

[brazen rock]

its not a must take.

[left flicker]

just swapped to arms cause fury is too boring and went for these

[zenith marlin]

tbf take anybodys word but me i mostly check the icon and name of the talents as I make a build

[mild thunder]

Drop fueled by violence for rend

Otherwise pre much good

[zenith marlin]

defo take Rend here ye

also yall rly take Reckleness proc for avatar?

i love spin

and isn't the "fall to 30% and die" talent better than some of the other options there

[mild thunder]

Hmmm +20% crit chance and 100% rage gen on a ~30 sec CD? Hmmmmmmmmmm

[zenith marlin]

only to like slam with that rage tho

:S

for 8k dmg each

[left flicker]

sick cheers

[mild thunder]

Yes, it’s worth for an MS/non unhinged build

[left flicker]

vers > Crit > haste for stats too ?

[mild thunder]

Pretty much

Crit and haste are pretty close overall, but crit is probably better

[zenith marlin]

whoever sims that, do they consider crit being 1.5x in pvp?

[mild thunder]

Personally I can’t play with <10% haste or I pull my hair out

[mild thunder]

Crit is 1.75 base, 1.85 for arms, higher with talents

[zenith marlin]

is it any diff in pve

[fickle forge]

Siming PvP is dumbo

[zenith marlin]

im a sim drone

addon says do this I do

AI overlords rule me

nah jks I go whichever maxes out my vers

i rlylike this guy here

fits my gameplay of find a target and stick on it

and close eyes

[left flicker]

tunnel vision life

xD

[brazen rock]

im very doubtful it'll make it past 1week of once arms gets popular.

basically touch of death in pvp.

[zenith marlin]

if we see slow games again in pvp it seems fun

[mild thunder]

Yea but touch of death is aoe

[zenith marlin]

BFA every game was to 80

80% dampening

monks are ez ngl if they go my healer I taunt their xuen or smth

taunt is my fav pvp ability

gets me in combat so I dont get sapped

taunt DK abo

yall even have taunt binded? xd

mines on "E"

[pearl prism]

i taunt my next door neighbour's cat every afternoon after school

[undone pumice]

i bind taunt in all my funny fire eater vial macros and fireworks

[elfin surge]

ofc i also have focus taunt

to keep rdruids in combat without using gcd

[idle cliff]

Are there no more honor vendors? Is it all bloody tokens now?

[zenith marlin]

kekw

[elfin surge]

honor gear is better than blood token gear in arena

[idle cliff]

I can't find the damn vendor XD

[zenith marlin]

i used to pop parry and taunt boss mechanic to help tank only to not parry and get one shot

[elfin surge]

across the room of the bloody vendor

@idle cliff

[idle cliff]

Cheers

[zenith marlin]

yall done with your tour of duty achis yet?

[glad pagoda]

1800 for elite transmog set?

[zenith marlin]

hope they make it higher cuz solo shuffle

i mean bfa everyone has the set

i mean anyone who wants the set will get it anyway

ohwel

[glad pagoda]

i hope its not higher

[elfin surge]

i like elite sets at 2k but ppl would rage if blizz increased it.

prob still 1800

[wheat crane]

wait

[zenith marlin]

lemme see what other rewarsd there are

[wheat crane]

does ww not do the thign anymore where it cleaves the next 2 moves

[zenith marlin]

the glad mount is not a proto drake

T^T

[mild thunder]

You need to take improved whirlwind

[wheat jay]

2k Elite was a tiny bit more prestigious

[elfin surge]

% glad > 2400 glad

[bright stream]

barely, the problem is more that there were 4 sets per season, so 3 times as many people had them

[wheat jay]

Also true

[zenith marlin]

% glad with waiting season end makes me old

[wheat jay]

Then again, I'm happy with my 2400 mount

[elfin surge]

idc either way

[zenith marlin]

but also by that logic u can be %glad first hour of season release with 1 win

xd

[wheat jay]

Would it be better if it was, being 0.5% during the season, and then getting some wins above?

Middle of both kinda

[zenith marlin]

i also get tired of tracking wheter if I am in or not tbf

[elfin surge]

shadowlands season 2 gladiators wouldve been rival in a season of % titles

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[zenith marlin]

half of SL titles were awarded to ppl who reroll into mechanics awaiting nerfs ngl

[wheat jay]

Meanwhile i'm happy i was 0.4% in 2s shadowlands s3

[bright stream]

name a season that doesnt have 25% or more of the player base rolling to some faceroll fotm garbage though

its literally just the game

[elfin surge]

duelist cutoff that ssn wouldve been 2500/2600

[zenith marlin]

i also get tired of rock paper scissor at high CR

[jaunty niche]

That's what WOW devs want you to do.

[zenith marlin]

tru everyone rerolls

[bright stream]

managers/execs maybe, Devs don't get input on something like that - and wouldnt want their name behind bad tier balance

[zenith marlin]

I know a dude with chars named pvpdruid, pvpwarr etc and rerolls every patch

[elfin surge]

gladiator is the peak reward in wow and it just seems weird to see it at 2400 in a season where people are peaking 3800cr. either way idc tho

[bright stream]

the peak 3800 is the problem there though, not the 2400

[brazen rock]

mud

[bright stream]

like who the fuck

[brazen rock]

will u que arms on one of your warriors?

[bright stream]

has the time to grind 3800 cr?

[zenith marlin]

with like 60% win rate too

[brazen rock]

euros that take time off to play wow minigame

[elfin surge]

well blizz tried nerfing mmr the season before to stop rating climb which kill the ladder

[bright stream]

I swear half the kids that still play this game are on disability pensions

[zenith marlin]

get CR every 11th game xd

[brazen rock]

eu players in general

[elfin surge]

ofc

[zenith marlin]

only cuz USA wont give out pensions

kekw

[bright stream]

everyone in group finder as well

[elfin surge]

i will try arms in 2s to get a feel of its damage and eventually play arms in 3s

[zenith marlin]

bruh i am never going trough group finder for pvp

tbf solo shuffle is the best thing to happen to this game because it will humble ppl

[graceful quarry]

you don't get paid time off in the usa?

[zenith marlin]

the healer bots especailly

[brazen rock]

have a spec in mind?

[brazen rock]

canada, and no. im a sole contractor

[graceful quarry]

sucks

[elfin surge]

well it was like an 8 month long season

[zenith marlin]

im a toronto man :S

[brazen rock]

hope you bought before it went to shit lmao

[zenith marlin]

i rent kekw

[elfin surge]

no idea, going to test a lot of arms build in 2s tho

[bright stream]

it'll also make the game accessible - but yeah, the number of garbage players that swapped to something for a season, dropped 2 mil for a carry, and now sport an ego to match elon is insane

[graceful quarry]

so when is Elon gonna buy the WoW forums?

[wheat crane]

gross

[brazen rock]

aight, also thoughts on Fatality? the bottom left capstone in the arms tree.

[elfin surge]

sounds good but isnt it nerfed in pvp?

i would pref play that

[muted surge]

It is nerfed

[brazen rock]

its 50% in pvp

[bright stream]

tabards from solo q yeah?

[brazen rock]

still you only really need like 5 stacks to one shot

[zenith marlin]

but 20 stacks

is lovely

But for Fatality to work we need slow games and dampening

[cinder wharf]

Do you have any idea what specification will be best in the arenas? between fury and arms? 🙂

[zenith marlin]

which hasnt been a thing for a while

[bright stream]

comp based probably, hopefully arms>fury

[zenith marlin]

maybe in 2s with a holy pala

fatality could be good

[brazen rock]

even 3 stacks is pretty hefty dam ontop of execute

6 stacks on dummy made my execute crit for 180k

[zenith marlin]

it procs weirdly tho

it has a short delay

[cinder wharf]

why arms > fury? better stats?

[zenith marlin]

they are hoping for it

not that it is

[bright stream]

it's a more interesting spec, easier to gear, better theme, etc

as much as I love spamming 2 buttons, between charges

[brazen rock]

fury is pretty braindead, 1212 rotation, doesnt get access to hurricane/banner/duel for plays

[bright stream]

and memeing out with my 2012 era swifty

I'm actually super disappointed, I'll play it if its good

but compared to something like mage

[zenith marlin]

I love fury man

target 1 dude sit on him forever

kekw

[bright stream]

it's actually braindead as hell, and that annoys me

[brazen rock]

i think arms will be "good" in 3s, with another teammate to pull heat off you

like turbo arms will work pretty good i think

same with thunder

[bright stream]

for 10 years or more I've listed to stupid casters drool about how melee are brain dead and their immune to interupt no choice spec is gigachadbrain tier

[brazen rock]

elemental "cant" be left alone rn

[bright stream]

but now, fury/mage specs literally it's true

[undone pumice]

arms will prob be good in 3s again like it was in sl s3

[zenith marlin]

What I dislike about arms is that it always needs an enabler

They are like special needs spec

[undone pumice]

well yeah

thats the only thing really keeoing it in check

[brazen rock]

s1s2 SL they were fine and dandy alone lol

[bright stream]

s1s2 condemn war RIP

[undone pumice]

imagine if you put jet thrusters on a wheelchair

[wheat crane]

As a rogue main, I have to say that I'm extremely frustrated with the current state of the class in the game. It seems like every time there's a balance patch, rogues get hit the hardest and yet we still see other classes dominating in both PvE and PvP. It's frustrating to see our class constantly being nerfed and overlooked, while others are seemingly immune to any balance changes.

I understand that the developers have a difficult job in trying to balance the class, but it feels like they're completely biased against rogues. It's like they don't even understand how the class is played and what our strengths and weaknesses are. Instead of taking the time to properly assess the situation and make thoughtful changes, they just nerf us into oblivion without any regard for the impact it will have on our playstyle.

It's incredibly disheartening to see our class in such a poor state, and it's causing many rogue players to lose interest in the game. I just hope that the developers will take our concerns seriously and start giving rogues the attention and support we deserve.

[undone pumice]

good pasta

can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty

[wheat crane]

S tier

[bright stream]

you forgot the /use ritalin

[undone pumice]

impressive, very nice, now let's see paul allen's tierlist

[undone pumice]

thats thistle tea xd

[bright stream]

btw bloody, the caster player tier lists

"errrr, I dunno, all the wars/dk say it's bad, uhhh low A tier/high b tier"

[cinder wharf]

thanks you for the answers 🙂 i start with class war and i testing fury but i don't know choose spe for arene

[hard hound]

🤣

[bright stream]

play fury until you understand why its bad, then swap to arms or a real class/spec

[hard hound]

then back arms and be OS xD

[bright stream]

anyone wanna go to work for me in like ~7 hours? cheers boys.

[vocal root]

@elfin surge can you post the enchants you are running for S1 please

[hard hound]

he have no enchant atm

[undone pumice]

sophic writ and frozen devotion are looking good

[sage raptor]

You're all wrong

[undone pumice]

and that other frozen thing

idk just get mastery is good

[zenith marlin]

real warr spec is protection

[elfin surge]

oh buddy im full stacked on enchants

[hard hound]

oh

its new ^^

[elfin surge]

[undone pumice]

ye i checked yesterday

[elfin surge]

not home atm : (

[undone pumice]

bro is stacked cracked jacked

this 2x

[hard hound]

i use the same

[vocal root]

Ah no worries maybe you could PIn with the gear one whenever you have a chance would be appreciated !

[elfin surge]

my armory fucked rn

[native folio]

Question: Is there some sort of Scaling in Warmode? Because when I used my Honor-Gear, it was not 410 as it was in BGs

🤔

[tiny dagger]

it will auto scale as soon as u engage in pvp

[hard hound]

mud how many leech % do you have with enchant ? it is more good than speed for you ? @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

lost 6% speed for 3% leech

not sure if its worth

[native folio]

ah, so I will whack all those PvEs

nice

[hard hound]

leech with 5% is one of my last regen resource

[elfin surge]

8% total leech with talent

[hard hound]

got 117% speed atm

unbuff

[low sparrow]

So I’m playing fury demo with the nerfs coming do you think we turn off our ms and use the locks or still use ours and have the lock turn off his?

[lean burrow]

if you got higher than 100% movespeed, and you get snared, does your movespeed get above usual percentage?

[hard hound]

ofc

[wheat crane]

Whats the locks 25% or 20%?

[lean burrow]

I think I heard somewhere any movespeed buff is useless against someone like dk with chains of ice

not sure why

[wheat crane]

If its 20 run slaughter 25 dump it

[low sparrow]

25

[elfin escarp]

You guys think the MS will be easy to upkeep?

[quaint snow]

no

[low sparrow]

Ty

[fickle forge]

Thought you said it showed FvB over SW?

[quaint snow]

i wonder if i should use Slaughterhouse when playing with a Spriest (Psyfiend) or use another pvp talent… anyone knows if it stacks or not? Thanks

[elfin escarp]

Anyone try an Arms bleed build? One with skullsplitter?

I wanted to try and go full mastery and try those in 2s or 3s

[elfin surge]

slaughterhouse wont work with demo lock

[thick reef]

Speed buffs aren't useful unless you can get them very high. High enough to beat snares.

[fickle forge]

What

[mild thunder]

Am I stupid or something? Why are people saying/implying mastery increases deep wounds damage?

[undone pumice]

it does

[tiny dagger]

cuz mastery : deep wounds

[fickle forge]

Part of your mastery

[undone pumice]

look arms spellbook unless i misread

[mint tinsel]

I thought it just increased the damage amp of deep wounds

[mild thunder]

I swear to god I’ve read multiple times that mastery does not increase DW damage, just the debuff

[tiny dagger]

Deep Wounds is literally the Arms mastery

[fickle forge]

Should affect both

[elfin surge]

lol i thought it only increased damage you deal to targets with deep wounds not the actual damage of wounds.

???

[mild thunder]

I’m with mud on this one though

[elfin surge]

prob a DF change then

[mild thunder]

Might be. Might just be people misremembering and confusing with old mastery

[quaint snow]

think i still have to use slaughterhouse when playing with Spriest - not sure. Any opinions?

[mild thunder]

Can’t logon to test

[mild thunder]

Reroll arms

[quaint snow]

[mild thunder]

The rampage icon always just reminds me of this

https://youtu.be/6M2Mx5e3a-8

[fringe spruce]

pre accurate

[quaint snow]

HAHAHA

[mild thunder]

Literal mirror image

[quaint snow]

never seen this but yeh accurate

[hollow ore]

for anyone asking about Mud's enchantments ;

dunno if that was still needed but since I made the trip might as well share

[brazen rock]

Frozen devo is still up for debate also

[sterile carbon]

what trinkets do people go for? i've been using medallion and insignia of alacrity

[hollow ore]

lots of ppl running insignia, but from my experience, sequencing burst is better so badge of ferocity is go to in arena

[graceful ginkgo]

double vers proc, ok? does that actually make sense?

[sterile carbon]

hmm makes sense ye

[graceful ginkgo]

i thought it was capped at XYZ procs per minute

[hollow ore]

dunno didn't do enchants yet, it's like 40k on my dogwater server

so I'm waiting for more testing from our tops

[raw summit]

sl change

fwiw

in BFA mastery still amped the actual bleed iirc

[hollow ore]

p sure as well ye

[fickle forge]

I still remember when they buffed DW mastery scaling with 1000% in BFA

[elfin surge]

i meant if it was changed it was a DF change

mastery is the same as sl yea?

[paper wigeon]

interesting versa enchant over haste on rings and full versa sockets instead of versa+haste sockets ? just like leech over movement ?

[graceful ginkgo]

ah my bad, frozen devotion is the frost damage proc

[hollow ore]

being bulkier through more versa is a fair deal that early in arena imo

also helps with learning curve for all the incoming damages and gos

leech's same debate ig

[paper wigeon]

true true i just dont feel like we rly need it but thats obviously only from bg experience so far

but i can see it

[hollow ore]

I heard rogues are going balistic since last patch so I'm not against a 1.4% bonus damage reduction on their gos tbh lol

[paper wigeon]

also curious if you can actually feel the extra leech

[low sparrow]

Why won’t it work?

[hollow ore]

I think it's overriden by the lock's MS if the % isn't higher?

which means it's higher for 4s per uptime give or take

[low sparrow]

Lock can turn off his ms

[elfin surge]

because slaughterhouse stacks 5% each tick, any ms that is higher than 5% assumes its stronger and wont apply slaughter, even tho it can stack to a higher %.

[low sparrow]

The warlock can turn off ms though

[lean burrow]

wait, MS effects work by stack for the highest %?

so feral's 10% per stack overwrites fury's ms, and demo lock's 20% overwrites both?

[low sparrow]

Yes

[lean burrow]

I always thought just highest ms works

[low sparrow]

But warlock can turn off ms so that’s why I’m confused why it wouldn’t work

[green wyvern]

exzi (the russian r1 warr) is going crit/mastery on arms

[low sparrow]

Also demo is 25 percent not 20

[glossy pine]

which fury talents should I use, the ones from icyveins or from picture in pins?

[low sparrow]

I use what mud uses

[glossy pine]

and also are the honor items up to date, 0 crit items seems weird if we are supposed to proc cshb constantly

[drowsy depot]

the crit items are in the wpvp vendor no?

[glossy pine]

idk im just looking at honor stuff

[elfin surge]

then it would work, but after nerfs prob better if he ran it and you dont play slaughter.

[low sparrow]

Ok thanks man

[glossy pine]

so honor items and build from picture are the way to go?

[paper wigeon]

id personally pick spear over roar

but pretty much yeah

[sharp meteor]

Other ms rips slaughter stacks off.

[sharp meteor]

Turning off legion strike seems troll.

[stoic basin]

Didn't Mud specify his was more for BGs then Arena or am I crazy

Hence why Roar over Spear

[brazen rock]

It's for everything

Swapping to spear doesn't mod the rest of the build at all

[low sparrow]

Yea you swap spear in arena the build stays the same unless you don’t wanna run annh

[coarse dagger]

Finally started messing with Arms. It hits hard as fuck, but... survival is pretty bad.

[elfin surge]

i think roar and spear are both good in arenas. Spear prob better in arena, not sure yet. Roar fits my playstyle more imo

[light granite]

@coarse dagger I want arms to be good too. It’s fun to blast monster hits on people. Survival is def on the low side for me anyways

[coarse dagger]

Absolutely cannot survive any focus of any kind.

Easier to peel than Fury, imo.

85k crits on cloth and leather is prettyn ice, though

[light granite]

It’s so fun

[coarse dagger]

I got killed by a lesser geared DK and late Fury in a 2v2 just being focused, though.

[light granite]

If I can’t make it work, I’ll just equip a 2nd weap and roll fury and then make a doc appt for carpel tunnel surgery in a month

[wooden grove]

I have a keyboard bind for rampage and a naga bind for BT

Viola no carpal tunnel

[coarse dagger]

My entire base rotation and cooldowns are on my keyboard/left hand. Just very ergonomic.

[wooden grove]

Majority of my CDs are on the keyboard because it’s just a better way imo

[brazen rock]

Scroll up BT scroll down rampage

[wooden grove]

Fast af boi

[light granite]

To me, there are few things more fun in WoW than charging every execute while hitting for up to 80k+

Just spamming huge numbers

Buff arms plz

[elfin surge]

[brazen rock]

120k ms into 110k execute

Makes pp hard.

[hard hound]

Depend of comp your playing no ?

With my turbo i take spear and with my lock I take roar

[abstract rapids]

Plz someone from US region ( the only region blizz care about) . Make topic on forum about fucking charge. I hate charge the targer and appear 5 yards away from it. It was broken for 10 fucking years then they fix it. And starting from prepatch we have this bs charge issue again. Shield charge also broken. It literally doesnt stun sometimes. I see no one actually make post about this shit yet.

[coarse dagger]

Tried out the Bleed build. Not sold on it, yet.

[sharp meteor]

comp matchup playstyle ye

spear interesting because certain stuff not breaking it

like cloak because it's physical

[hard hound]

100% take it Vs rogue

[runic galleon]

arms back in the mix?

[hard hound]

I like when they Vanish cloack when I spear

[steep inlet]

Arms is ofc back

With hybrids or other focused guy

[quaint snow]

guys, are people farming these bloody coin gear and upgrade it to purple next week? I mean that would be a huge gap to conq points being capped no? 🧐

[hard hound]

No

[wooden grove]

Lol

[brazen rock]

Right now it looks like it's gonna take a while to upgrade it

Ofc worthwhile though as it scales above honor gear

But this isn't SL where conq was a gargantuan jump over honor

[delicate bronze]

What is fastest to gear up between epic or regular bgs

[quaint snow]

thanks, so these trophy of strife thing is maybe not even available on Wednesday

[brazen rock]

We don't know yet. But presumably it is.

There's an activity in the adventure guide that rewards 4 trophies.

[quick carbon]

Ams still breaks spear xd

[elfin surge]

💀

[hard hound]

Spear can be parry ?

[quick carbon]

If you spear a rogue in evasion he dodges it and also walks out of it

[hard hound]

He can’t dodge it imo

But parry I’m not sure

[quick carbon]

I’m not sure ab how parry interacts with it

But I remember evasion cucking spear

[lunar stump]

will primal chaos drop from rated arena ?

[brazen rock]

I believe it does

[sterile carbon]

You can parry spear

[lunar stump]

what makes you so sure

[brazen rock]

Because what other source would rated pvpers get chaos from?

[lunar stump]

the same stuff as everyone else i guess

source*

[distant raptor]

Anyone else experiencing long BG Qs now?

Says est. 3 min - im waiting 10 min or more

[worthy hedge]

Is it usefull to upgrade pvp gear with honor atm or not ?

[elfin surge]

if u only care about bgs and arena, no.

[scarlet barn]

@steep inlet

Keep on good work , you frappe mortelle

[brazen rock]

Yeah I don't think they intend the arena crowd to farm unrated BGs for boxes mate

[steep inlet]

:D Thx

[brazen rock]

If you rub a couple braincells together it makes sense they'd come from arena boxes 👍

[steep inlet]

Will try shield glad in DF razonko

[lunar stump]

relax buddy

[distant raptor]

Anyone NOT taking Storm Bolt in PvP builds?

finding some cookie cutter Fury PvP builds and none of them take Storm Bolt

[marble bone]

Depends what you play with I guess. If your team has stuns you just DR them 🤷‍♂️

[quaint snow]

stormbolt is a must imo

[distant raptor]

yeah wondering why these builds dont use it

[sinful carbon]

i heard prot is freelo

[distant raptor]

not a fan of playing prot in pvp

[sinful carbon]

i apologize i just want my tmog shield

is it shield charge that busted?

[distant raptor]

prot looks so sick

best mog class

warrior armor is the coolest in the game, plus shields are sick

[native folio]

You think Prot Warr will stay that way

or get the Nerf-bat

[real shuttle]

Im looking to start pvping as a warrior (tanking only so far) is protection any good or should i pick a dps spec?

[native folio]

usually, tank in PvP is more of a meme and niche

[real shuttle]

thats fair, arms or fury then 🤔 ?

[native folio]

If you want carpal tunnel syndrome - Fury
If you want to be oneshot - Arms

[brazen rock]

Prot already got nerfed in pvp.

[real shuttle]

carpal tunnel lol 😄

[brazen rock]

Fury rn will perform better than arms in most scenarios. Arms will be good in 3s with another partner to take heat off you. Even then fury might still be better.

[real shuttle]

do you have any guides/specs i can take a look at as a start ?

[native folio]

Since Fury got heal reduction in their kit they really closed the gap or even surpassed it, because of their better self sustain

📌

^

There

[distant raptor]

Anyone want to share their PvP build for Fury?

[wheat crane]

Feel like we're doing all this theory crafting then itll just be another xpac of warr ret on the ladder

[low sparrow]

I don’t know how you can get carpal tunnel, pressing 2buttons lol

[native folio]

pressing them fast

[wheat crane]

Its still the same gcd lol

Carpal doesnt care if you hit 1 n 2 or 1234

I get the joke tho

[native folio]

Well yeah, obivously it does not help to press said buttons over and over again

But you still do

[zenith marlin]

dang ate some chocolate which make me hungry specifically for protein tf

had a can of tuna and it slapped

never craved fkn tuna

[native folio]

I mean you still press the 'A' Button in JRPGs to get through the dialouge faster, eventhough it does not help

[light granite]

1,2,1,2,1,2 every second is a lot of strain on the tendons

[sharp meteor]

It's just the repetitive actions, especially with uncomfortable binds.

[distant raptor]

Looking like the Icy Veins pvp build for Fury recommends Annihilator over RB - is this right? MOst of you doing this?

[sharp meteor]

both seem good but bloodthirst has a lot of healing

[upper pelican]

so bois

pvp talent build?

[distant raptor]

Bloodthirst = Annihilator build?

[sharp meteor]

ya bt is left side

[distant raptor]

and with Annihilator i would be using SLAM right?

in my main damage rotation

[sharp meteor]

not often

[zenith marlin]

nah

[distant raptor]

only off CD?

[zenith marlin]

literally only bloodthirst

and its empowerd version

[sharp meteor]

its nice for killing totems and stuff but like

[distant raptor]

ok

[zenith marlin]

which is only on GCD

[sharp meteor]

usaully you have bt and rampage

then ham/pierce

[distant raptor]

sooo its kind of a 3 button spec if we count execute right lmao

[distant raptor]

piece?

pierce*?

[zenith marlin]

rampage -> 2x empowered bloodthirst -> regular bloodthirst -> rampage

literally cant press slam

empowered bloodthirst doesnt share cd with regular

[low sparrow]

Correct

[sharp meteor]

slow shout

[distant raptor]

omg i didnt even have it on

[real shuttle]

got a spec you can share?

[distant raptor]

im using the icy veins one

holy shit this is so fun in BGs

[light granite]

Wait, so 2 bloodthirsts on bars? I’m so confused

I’m clearly slow

[distant raptor]

no it changes aut

auto

[light granite]

Oh ok yah I’m not confused then

[distant raptor]

Icy veins build doesnt take bitter immunity

weird

[zenith marlin]

There is no way I am not taking bitter immunity

[brazen rock]

Pins.

[zenith marlin]

and tbf u chance ur build before every fight anyway

[distant raptor]

They need to get rid of that loading bar time

[zenith marlin]

its gone in arenas

was atleast as of pre patch solo shuffles

[craggy socket]

Im sick and fucking tired of warlocks

Are the nerfs enough so theyre not fucking gods?

[zenith marlin]

As a fury they inconvenience me

But I win at the end

I am tired of shadowpriests

who greatly inconvenience me and may actually kill me

[distant raptor]

Which healers are strong rn

[delicate bronze]

prevoker

[brazen rock]

Prevoker. Rdruid. Disc.

[full quiver]

how dead do u think this channel is in 5 days

[distant raptor]

Disc seems easy

[brazen rock]

Hopefully dead

Sick of the same 2 fury questions

[thick reef]

Druids are always strong, dn buggers

[zenith marlin]

kekw ill be here

[brazen rock]

hOw dOeS sPeC wOrK

[quaint snow]

ill ask many questions dont worry

[thick reef]

I expect a lot of screenshots and little else

[brazen rock]

Idk buddy fucking play it for 5 minutes lmao

[quaint snow]

what slot unity?

[thick reef]

Screenshots and bitching

[distant raptor]

disc seems super strong and easy

[outer hornet]

what do you think will be bitched about the most?

[brazen rock]

Spriests. Warlocks. Prevokers

Ferals if people catch onto them

Fury because it still does dumby retard damage and never dies.

Arms whenever the stars align and a 150k ms happens

[native folio]

What will be bitched the most? - WoW Balance
reason? I lost this match

[quaint snow]

assa rogg is OP dude

winwalker sleeper op

[brazen rock]

Oh and all rogue specs lmao

[outer hornet]

It wouldnt be wow if there wasn't bitching about rogues

[craggy socket]

Rogues are not nearly as toxic as these warlocks

[distant raptor]

rogues are so zzz to play

[craggy socket]

Demo is fucking cancer

[zenith marlin]

hmm

so I slap afflocks and destros

Didnt think of demos

[quaint snow]

demo is fkn clusterfuck on your screen

gotta kill his pet somehow

[craggy socket]

Warlocks need to nerfed into the ground

Theyre retard proof as demo

[low sparrow]

no Just play with one

[distant raptor]

What can I drop here to take Bitter Immunity?

[brazen rock]

Pins.

[thick reef]

Rogues, priests, druids, DH, and warlocks, are about to be universally hated

[distant raptor]

Where in the pins does it talk about Bitter Immunity? @brazen rock

[zenith marlin]

what even is ur spec

[distant raptor]

Haven't seen that one

[brazen rock]

Dude

Scroll down to muds build in the pins

[distant raptor]

Got it from the pins

[brazen rock]

I'm on mobile

Stop using the garbage icyveins links, they shouldn't be pinned.

[zenith marlin]

lol i think the guy who made them is here

[delicate bronze]

but like who tf does not use bitter immu

[zenith marlin]

we are a positive warrior environment here

[brazen rock]

Whatever, muds build takes bitter and drops a useless talent to get it that the icyveins link has

[zenith marlin]

ye bitter immunity is the best thing to happen to warrs T^T

now bring back ignore pain

[distant raptor]

Ok... but you said look at the pins... and that is the first thing pinned hahaha

[brazen rock]

Stop. Using. Icyveins.

Scroll further down.

[distant raptor]

Ok - I will but why is it pinned then

[brazen rock]

I don't know???

We don't have a pvp mod

[crude bane]

any thought after up arms warrior ? ( cant test myself im banned)

[brazen rock]

Bfa physique purge ruined this channel smh

#pvp message

There you go.

[crude bane]

XDDDDDD

WE ALL SAW

DONT REMOVE YOUR MESSAGE

WE GOT YOU 4K

[zenith marlin]

rip

[full quiver]

i think icey veins is fine now

[distant raptor]

doesnt seem like it

[full quiver]

@fickle forge didn't u fix it

[distant raptor]

no storm bolt, no BI, no Pain and Gain

[crude bane]

what you guyz playing as alt tho ?

[distant raptor]

WW

[zenith marlin]

as alt I play arms

[light granite]

DH/Warr <<<

[zenith marlin]

and fury

main is prot

considering leveling a dwarf warrior for alliance

[crude bane]

the classic war / dh

[light granite]

It’s what the chads do

[crude bane]

i guess

[light granite]

Lol

[crude bane]

im that close to just reroll a op shit

breaK 2K4 with no effort

and flex

[full quiver]

it has bolt and pain and gain, no BI tho

not sure if u were on the right section

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/arms-warrior-pvp-talents-and-builds

[crude bane]

do you guyz even touch PVE this xpac ?

[light granite]

Every class I wanna main gets gutted so I’m just giving up on any fotm ever. I just play what I like. Happens to be dh Warr

[distant raptor]

yeah its the main thing

PvP is a side dish

[crude bane]

kekw

pve doggest shit

[elfin surge]

[crude bane]

DL dbm

[light granite]

I rarely pve personally

[crude bane]

wait a timer telling you what to do

gg

zzzzzzzz

[zenith marlin]

I used PvP to fill up missing pieces to PvE better

Double chest in BFA T^T

[distant raptor]

what a braindead take lol

[zenith marlin]

Loved how hard PvE drones raged at PvP items in BFA

[distant raptor]

can't imagine why you wouldnt play all parts of the MMO you pay for - wild

[crude bane]

keep sweating in +15 bro @distant raptor

[zenith marlin]

also I usually use the vers rings and neck for my prot spec from pvp

[crude bane]

you probably so good at it

[distant raptor]

lmao why are you so mad and hostile - let people enjoy things

[crude bane]

we got you

you starte to be hostile tf xd

[distant raptor]

you must be going thru it homie - i understand

[zenith marlin]

bruh this is the pvp warrior discord everyone here is hostile

[full quiver]

raiding is fun first few times

[sly walrus]

just joshin u own

[crude bane]

this guy legit come pvp channel to tell pvp is dish

[full quiver]

the only thing mud owns is his wow account

[sly walrus]

True

[crude bane]

welcolm to my catpiss player list

you near thogrey

gg

[zenith marlin]

zug zug

[fickle forge]

🤔

[zenith marlin]

i wanna mortal strike for 30% of enemy player HP

guess i still stay ganking lvl 65s

[fickle forge]

It's updated yeah

[full quiver]

what do you lose if you slot BI?

[elfin surge]

@fickle forge is a lifetime challenger

[fickle forge]

Confirmed

[undone pumice]

challenger in league

[fickle forge]

I only briefly made it into masters

[full quiver]

OTP rengar/arms war

[zenith marlin]

i only play sion and never leave top lane

[fickle forge]

Bruisergar top OTP all the way

😎👍

[distant raptor]

how do you see scoreboard in BG now?

[fickle forge]

Click the eye in the bottom corner

[brazen rock]

[fickle forge]

I mean bro

[brazen rock]

Bro

[light granite]

You can move the eye around too. I put it back up to top right corner

[fickle forge]

Is Mud's guide superior because he picks roar over spear?

[undone pumice]

gangplank toplane gameplay

[covert abyss]

mans acting sad like he wrote the icyveins guide

[fickle forge]

Got me

@elfin surge writtes all the guides

Not WoWhead since they shut down their PvP section

But every other one

[light granite]

Can I ask a newb question? Will I be super gimped if I just buy the recommended pinned honor gear for fury, but swap around to arms?

I play Warr as alt so not super sweaty w it tbh

[muted surge]

Honor gear doesn’t matter

And nah, haste is fine I think

Some crit would prob be better

[light granite]

Ok thx I’m just gonna roll w it

[fickle forge]

Otherwise 2 honor sets is obtained in a few hours

[light granite]

I thought about that too. Maybe get a mastery set

Clapping 80k executes is so fun it’s ridiculous

[sharp meteor]

bro buy whatever it doesn't matter lmao

it also takes like a few hours to farm the rest of the alternatives

[muted surge]

Different with conq gear tho

[light granite]

Yah I’m gonna have to figure that out for the conq

[amber harness]

assuming I wanna have all these for pvp, is there a better way to distribute other points for dps?

[light granite]

I prefer arms tbh, but apparently fury is the way atm.

[simple rock]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/arena-map-pools-and-rotation-for-dragonflight-season-1-330463

would prefer if they just removed the dogshit maps

but this is a decent alternative

[thick reef]

Pvp isn't a DPS only game. Your not trying to maximize one thing.

[amber harness]

speccing like a doofus wont help you either tho

[thick reef]

If you think those circled talents can be removed that makes you the doof.

[amber harness]

?? u dumb

read the sentence again

[thick reef]

Derp. My mistake

[amber harness]

sry for words

[fickle forge]

Pain can be swapped for shatter/wrecking

[opaque quarry]

I'd keep SB for dmg.

[amber harness]

ye was thinking of having it almost every game actually, since there will always be either a big shield dude, a bubble or block

[zenith marlin]

tbf i dont take the 70% slow either

hamstring does good enough

[fickle forge]

Piercing is busted doe

[zenith marlin]

its 8 secs vs 15 sec Hamstring

Piercing was nice when it wasn't on GCD in BFA

[fickle forge]

Only ranged slow you have

[amber harness]

piercing for melees and the aoe berserk for fears

[stuck root]

Didnt it also cost a ton of rage in bfa

[zenith marlin]

they should remove Hamstring from GCD again

[frail badge]

which mode would be best for farming honor then? skirmishes or battlegrounds?

[zenith marlin]

Enlisted BGs

Farming honor isnt even a big deal anymore anyway..

[opaque quarry]

Either one of the slows. Too many things on GCD at this point.

[zenith marlin]

U need like 10k to be full, not 10k each piece

[fickle forge]

Wasn't the reason they put Ham on GCD because PvE arms would fish for tactician procs?

[zenith marlin]

Tbf even if, so what is they got an extra tactitian kekw

Not like prot does that with Ignore Pain 24/7

[fickle forge]

PvE is PvE

+2% dmg is giga

[frail badge]

thanks what are enlisted bg's? does that mean if i am horde i talk to the guy to fight as alliance?

[zenith marlin]

2% moves Arms from like D tier to D+ tier xd

i guess they werent garbo in BFA

[opaque quarry]

Even if that was the reason, if they don't want that then remove it from being able to..

[zenith marlin]

or they can just change tactitian abit like

instead change the thing that's been the same for 15 years

we have a harder time applying slow than warlocks do xd

pretty sure axe to legs slows ppl more reliably than curses

[opaque quarry]

Ngl I rarely use Hamstring in PvP. Too annoying to juggle it. I use P. Howl more.

[zenith marlin]

if I recall it right, PHowl was on GCD BUT had no cooldown

or had no rage requirement

[frail badge]

what is an enlisted bg?

[zenith marlin]

basically any player that knows mercenary mode / enlsited BG queues for it that way trough the Dalaran recruiter

[opaque quarry]

I'd take that tbh, that'd be nice.

[zenith marlin]

So the side with more players knowing this are usually also the side with better players

If there is no "enlisting" sign next to ur BG queue go to Dalaran and queue has mercenary mode cuz other faction has it

[frail badge]

so if am horde i still talk to that guy even?

[zenith marlin]

ye

[frail badge]

ok thanks

[zenith marlin]

wait its 15 sec?

why are mines 8 kekw

[amber harness]

patch 7.1

[zenith marlin]

AHHH

T^t

No GCD Hamstring made warriors lot better at pvp ngl

Esp vs Druids

massive nerf

[undone pumice]

@zenith marlin hes in valdrakken too

[marble bone]

So what wep enchants do us poor people use..?

[quaint snow]

its pinned

[distant raptor]

how tf do you do BGs like Temple of Kotmogu with randoms

seems like a steamroll every time

[marble bone]

I might be blind, but I dont see any enchants in the pins? And the guides are outdated.

[muted surge]

The pin even says updated today

Wait nvm

[dull egret]

Did they nerf prot in pvp by any chance?

[muted surge]

@fickle forge :<

[dull egret]

Like, just now?

[muted surge]

Was the reset now?

[crude bane]

any frozen devotion user ?

[glad pagoda]

they nerfed every tank spec

[fickle forge]

I've already pushed through DF enchants and gems, can't do anything till someone uploads it

When they (hopefully) register my HTML commits it'll (hopefully) show them

[crude bane]

https://gyazo.com/4264d7d3444b2638b45870381c2f30d2

so 1 by week

but not binded

so you can farm with your alt i guess

or buy it

[sharp meteor]

Boiii

[near delta]

When it doesn't cost 80k sure

[quick carbon]

only qing group A boys

[craggy socket]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/arena-map-pools-and-rotation/1443472

Cancer

Blizzard finds ways to fuck up thinfe constantly

First week is a pure ZUG week which is nice

[quick carbon]

Imagine muds face when he’s pushing r1 and the final map pool of the season is C

[full quiver]

LOL

i didn't even think about that

[craggy socket]

Bro blizzard is Fucking retarded

They can’t have 1 season without ruining everything

[thick reef]

Which sub-brick IQ fucktard intern implemented this shit?

[craggy socket]

Not sure but hey let’s announce it 24 hours before the season.

[undone pumice]

i think mastery isnt that bad on arms ngl

[gritty salmon]

If you go 2v2 and fury I would say rallying cry, yea it’s good but it’s only good if you get the pvp talent for it which most fury don’t

We already have good self healing aswell

[undone pumice]

it seems good for longer games

[gritty salmon]

Swapping out a pvp talent for the rallying cry pvp talent as a fury is very costly

[bright flume]

hey guys are people getting boots on orc? or is there a better item?

[gritty salmon]

But if you value it to much @distant raptor remove one wild strikes

[wheat jay]

So, s1 r1 title will be a bit dependant on luck now

If its pool 1 then its better for melee teams

Pool 3 for casters xD

@elfin surge ready for pool 3 last week?

[regal locust]

What 2s comps are you guys playing with fury? Going heals and dps or double dps?

[wheat jay]

Heal+dps best

And safest

Easier

No stress

[thick reef]

My buddy and I are going to meme as 2x Fury

If we don't win the opener, gg

[regal locust]

Lol that would be a blast

[wooden grove]

Tbh I wouldn’t farm for them if I was an orc

[crude bane]

im watching snuppy doing 50K dps in 3S what about you guyz

feral seems legit

[wooden grove]

Yeah go try and play it

It’s not two button fury I’ll tell ya that

[crude bane]

yeah i imagine

[near delta]

It's extremely strong but complicated and you get blasted if you don't know how to kite and mitigate damage

[wooden grove]

Their normal rotation is more keybinds than fury has total LOL

[crude bane]

kekw

anyway ill not complain about feral since SP and rogue exists

[near delta]

Like 7 buttons in opener lol

[bright flume]

whats better option?

[wheat jay]

Just normal gear

[wheat jay]

Farming takes 0 time tho

[wooden grove]

Just get conquest gear

[wooden grove]

Shit but if you don’t get the boots you don’t need to farm primal chaos if you don’t have enough, and you don’t even need a spark of ingenuity 😂

Or pay the 10k for the mats idek if it’s still that much

[wheat jay]

Meh

Pocket change gold

[tribal wedge]

Another prot nerf, rip my Shield enjoyer

[mild thunder]

Good, fuck tanks

[wheat jay]

That's barely a nerf

Tiny

[mild thunder]

Would rather blizzard just banned them from PvP

[mild thunder]

IP nerf is meh, demo shout nerf is a bit harder imo

[wheat jay]

5% is also whatever

[onyx vale]

where arms buff

[proud locust]

Guys arms or fury for 2s?

[steep inlet]

It’s ok

[mild thunder]

Do you wanna have fun or do you wanna play fury?

[tribal wedge]

Would Say both

[near delta]

Fury is probably going to be better/easier but with the nerfs to several of the big meta specs and buffs arms should be viable.

[waxen oasis]

How are people queueing for solo shuffle?

[proud locust]

Just want the must op specialization

[near delta]

It's one survivability buff from being insanely strong

[tribal wedge]

Fury so

Safest spec

[proud locust]

Also for pve right?

[tribal wedge]

Idk i dont pve

[mild thunder]

It’s never gonna get survivability buffs

[proud locust]

I make both ... But i always play arms in pvp

So now the op spec is fury

[near delta]

Yeah but a lot less than it used to be since they nerfed its ms really hard

[tribal wedge]

Arms good but get one shot currently while Fury IS tankier for a reallly good pressure

[near delta]

Damage and healing is super strong tho

[proud locust]

Demm

I get full crit in mu gear 🤣

Ando now fury need Haste fk

I get the crit for the arms 🤣

[crude bane]

@elfin surge is streeaming guyz real chad moment

[icy spruce]

Y’all ready for tomorrow?

Them balances look crazy

[near delta]

1350 conq first week let's go

[tribal wedge]

Thats great not needing to wait 4 week save for weapon

[sterile carbon]

They are?

[crude bane]

wargames

@tribal wedge how much cost weapon ?

[wheat jay]

1800

[crude bane]

dayum

for 2H ?

1H same cost ?

[thorn estuary]

1h the half usually

[wheat jay]

900 for 1h iirc

[sterile carbon]

What arena frames do people use? I tried gladius but it isn't updated and buggy

[jaunty niche]

which first conquest piece you guys are gonna get?

[crude bane]

weapon

kek

[thorn estuary]

we could upgrade our wpvp/honor gear starting tomorrow? I mean more than lv3

[jaunty niche]

why would you?

[thorn estuary]

Thats Im asking idk if the ilvl will scale up from lv 4-5

[thick reef]

If you don't get weapon you don't deserve R1

[jaunty niche]

upgrading gear does not change the pvp ivl

so upgrading honor gear is only useful if you want to pve with it

[waxen oasis]

i see baj and cdew playing it but i dont see the option

[wheat jay]

Gladiusex or sarena

[sterile carbon]

Someone already said wargames

[sterile carbon]

I tried sarena couldn't get it to work. Just wouldn't show up but could be my smooth brain

[tribal wedge]

Weapon first, or vault copium trying to get a free one

[sharp meteor]

half of 1800 2h so 900

[sharp meteor]

just 3 box on 5 diff warrs

[wheat jay]

Gladiusex then

Takes a bit to set up

The way you want it to be

But its good

[sterile carbon]

Ok, just want a clean one with trinket/racial cool down basically

[wheat jay]

Gladiusex works

But as I said, you need to set it up a bit

Because it can track a lot of stuff

[brazen rock]

weapon first, if you get lucky with wep in vault, buy 3 big pieces

[near delta]

The Mud System

[brazen rock]

oh wow actually confirmed its 1350

dope

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, that helps with the vault rng.

Although getting a weapon out of box is huge for overall economy.

[proud locust]

Guys how can i see the demage poping in the fight?

[brazen rock]

[cold elm]

https://imgur.com/a/rBXcrrH

procs outdmg me

[ornate sentinel]

anyone know if trophies of strife are tradeable?

[pearl prism]

guys

we need to ask blizzard to put beer in the dragonflight rivers

and cameras in the girls bathrooms

[quick dune]

best horde race for pvp? thoughs?

[thorn estuary]

is there any difference on the enchants according their grades? all of them has the same tooltip

I mean, the same ammount

[wheat crane]

Pretty sure its bugged tooltips

Higher tier does more

[pearl prism]

you have to actually equip to see the numbers

so ur better off looking them up online

[mild thunder]

there's no way this goes through unnerfed

[thorn estuary]

Was checking the spell on wowhead but has no values atm

https://www.wowhead.com/item=199975/enchant-weapon-wafting-writ

[brazen rock]

watching muds stream and his details after games, its never more than 10%

but if its actually showing that high, 100% it'll get gutted

actually wait

your third is the helm?

[mild thunder]

okay good good, i'd be pretty shocked if it werent nerfed already

[brazen rock]

this is doctored to fuck

helm is 3.5 ppm / 9k? damage when scaled

[mild thunder]

might be an early beta screenshot or sum

[brazen rock]

yeah no way this is current

[mild thunder]

has mud tested arms mastery yet?

[brazen rock]

probably not, too busy holding down W in skirms

[mild thunder]

the fury is overtaking his brain

[brazen rock]

when he hits a juicy ms > exec in 3s he'll be converted i bet.