with patch
#pvp
steep inlet
sinful vortex
is there a difference to whether you use tier 1 or tier 3 regeants for the warboots of impunity?
fickle forge
How to play vs Arcane Mage?
Pray your team has purge
worldly forum
Best trinket for fury in current state? We taking battlemasters or badge?
limber wagon
any reason we won't want 4 piece raid set in pvp ?
mild thunder
no
limber wagon
F
fathom hemlock
two handed fury or one handed fury
sage raptor
2h
fathom hemlock
ty
crude bane
with gushing wound nerf there is a SM build if some1 is interested i can share
just for fun
autumn saffron
Will you need to raid for pvp tier sets?
wary stone
whole pvp set is max level in pvp?
stoic basin
Why would you not want tier set? Lmao
With Tier Sets being relatively low In power for the first tier thr raw Item Level of PvP gear might overshadow it
Low chance but can still happen
mild thunder
Will you need to raid for pvp tier sets?
No
mild thunder
With Tier Sets being relatively low In power for the first tier thr raw Item Lev...
They’re not necessarily “weak” so much as they’re simple. They’re definitely all still worth taking
You trade a bit of versatility for a ton more SD procs and damage. Versatility isn’t even as important as it was for most of SL
undone pumice
more crit% and crit dmg on exe is good, more sd is good
more mortal strike dmg and crit bonuses is good
wraith hemlock
if fury catches another nerf on self healing I think Arms will pull ahead, otherwise fury is gonna be the sauce for S1
undone pumice
p sure fury also kinda slaps harder than arms atm
and regen being usable in stun is always good
green agate
Does frozen writ stack if you have 2 of them or should I do second ench mastery
wraith hemlock
yeah, arms does slap hard from what i understand but they are wet paper towels when trained
undone pumice
why would u encb and socmet honor gear atm
wraith hemlock
plus being gcd locked on fury just feels better imo and i played arms all the way from cata till df
green agate
why would u encb and socmet honor gear atm
? not going to be fully conq geared next reset so why not enchant gear thats not going to be replaced for a while
wraith hemlock
they made arms feel so clunky 
undone pumice
i dont think is worth but i am also not a wealthyman
green agate
I dont understand the logic, there is no higher pvp gear until you fill out conq pieces
youre gimping yourself for rated content by not enchanting and gemming your honor gear
wraith hemlock
Does frozen writ stack if you have 2 of them or should I do second ench mastery
i am not sure on the stacking, just going off what i saw on some top warriors i went sophic / frozen and did not stack
undone pumice
ye i wait till i have conq gear to ench and socket imo
green agate
That will be weeks tho
wraith hemlock
ye I enchanted weapons / rings etc but idk if it is exactly necessary unless you're trying to push rating
if you're just a random BG hero it really aint that serious
green agate
if you're just a random BG hero it really aint that serious
well yeah ofc
wraith hemlock
or if you're honestly just trying to get 1800 it probably isnt that serious, anything past that and you are handicapping yourself a bit for the first couple of weeks
missing out on haste, primary stat, etc
tawny river
ye I enchanted weapons / rings etc but idk if it is exactly necessary unless you...
what do u put on weapon? vers or main stat proc?
wraith hemlock
what do u put on weapon? vers or main stat proc?
frozen writ / sophic writ
tawny river
ahh forgot fury xd
undone pumice
im not a good player and i dont think not gemming or ench will hold me back im just trying to griddy grind my way as high as i can without spending all my gold
tawny river
i am arms
wraith hemlock
for arms i would do frozen for vers buff imo
tawny river
yeah probably
wraith hemlock
vers isn't as important as it was in like shadowlands but for arms any extra survivability you can squeeze out is helpful
tawny river
idk for dual wield on other char is it worth to stack same enchant or go vers + other secondary proc
undone pumice
idk if ur getting like above 30% vers its alrdy not that worth stacking more vers but mastery is shit on arms
wraith hemlock
im not a good player and i dont think not gemming or ench will hold me back im j...
someone can correct me if im wrong, but you can get the 1 star quality enchants and it doesnt make a difference. you don't have to buy the 50k 3star enchant
that is my understanding
undone pumice
i meant like
adding sockets is expensive
tiered medallion thing is expensive af on my realm
tawny river
someone can correct me if im wrong, but you can get the 1 star quality enchants ...
higher quality stuff is stronger
there is a difference obviously
fathom hemlock
what stats should i buy for arms
tawny river
adding sockets is expensive
2star quality is like 2k, you buy 2 of them and buy one 3star, it is 10k here
it's pretty cheap imo
tawny river
what stats should i buy for arms
skip mastery, i focused on crit since i don't play the bleed build
wraith hemlock
higher quality stuff is stronger
on the enchants? if you hover the tooltip it gives you the exact same amount of stats.
tawny river
on the enchants? if you hover the tooltip it gives you the exact same amount of ...
that's only the tooltip
everything is way stronger on higher quality
wraith hemlock
gotcha, i wasn't sure
tawny river
buy an 1star and 2star ring enchant, apply to 2 different rings and you will see
you can test it with some 5 gold enchants
but yeah tooltip isn't actual for higher quality stuff
fallow bay
vocal torrent
how much stam does tauren give on 70 ?
sterile carbon
2star quality is like 2k, you buy 2 of them and buy one 3star, it is 10k here
What do you mean about this? That you buy two two star and one 3 star? Sorry I'm new to this system
fathom hemlock
whats stronger furry or arms
tawny river
What do you mean about this? That you buy two two star and one 3 star? Sorry I'm...
u can put 3 socket on your necklace
2 star quality is usually cheaper than 1 star
so buy 2 2star to put 2 socket in neck
buy 1 3star quality to put 3rd socket in neck
in this order
sterile carbon
Ahhh ok, cool
silver pumice
Whats the objectives of a prot warrior in 3v3
severe skiff
inflict cancer upon others
wanton siren
How do you proc battle trance if you are not using raging blow?
ripe violet
hey which trinkets best for fury?
hidden jackal
How do you proc battle trance if you are not using raging blow?
its 8 autoattacks with annihilator
wanton siren
oh nice
mild thunder
Whats the objectives of a prot warrior in 3v3
Leave the match and reroll to arms
grizzled zinc
Do I need to do any pve stuff for playing pvp now?
arctic igloo
Do I need to do any pve stuff for playing pvp now?
No. Just do BG's and get the honor gear
severe skiff
Am I crazy or is MS with at least 1 overpower stack a higher priority than execute now, assuming not playing executioner's build
late nacelle
Why would u not play executioner
severe skiff
because I find skullsplitter more consistent
severe skiff
no
severe skiff
it works
late nacelle
And it didnt do that
It made em tick once
Full rend duration is like 40k+ dmg
Highest i saw skullsplitter do in addition to its own dmg was 5k
Literally wasting ur bleeds
severe skiff
again, it works
severe skiff
in pvp it will do about a total of 110-150k on activation
warped warren
Removes ur bleeds
🤣
mint tinsel
donny are you trolling
steep inlet
JK, Turbo with Prot maybe hmm
No
late nacelle
What are you talking about?
steep inlet
Arms turbo will be very good
graceful quarry
Highest i saw skullsplitter do in addition to its own dmg was 5k
are you using skullsplitter like right as rend is about to end?
cuz idk how ur numbers could be this low
warped warren
skullsplitter removes bleeds 💅
graceful quarry
skullsplitterputtogetherer
warped warren
🤣
glad pagoda
is fury really gona be dead after nerfs?
severe skiff
It was barely playable now, you do the math
severe skiff
prejudice
brazen rock
fury dead reroll feral
warped warren
It was barely playable now, you do the math
????😂
brazen rock
stuck mulch
Play mm. Kill someine in 1 rapid fire
stuck root
Ork must be downplaying
spice plinth
so what stats we prio with versatility then? haste or mastery or crit? i see so many opinions
stuck mulch
Trying to get buffed again
brazen rock
delete this
thick reef
Hes leaking info
slim bay
😎
stuck mulch
We are weak
steep inlet
lal
stuck mulch
Noodle arms. Gotta use daggers cus 2x 2h is too heavy for our weak ass
fossil mortar
My only complaint is that I can no longer blame my partner for MS debuff dropping. Now it just does
hexed pier
am i blind or is there no ignore pain for arms anymore?
fossil mortar
IP is gone
urban skiff
This guy mixing 2h and 1h for pvp. Is this the new sleeper build?
stuck mulch
The secret build is daggers
muted surge
yep, farming gy with a pocket heal. great
brazen rock
yep, farming gy with a pocket heal. great
better nerf fury
thick reef
Dagger fury with corehound tooth 😎
muted surge
urban skiff
So is he right? Loses out on offhand damage from rampage but isn't that really it?
idk about any of this, i just zugzug
brazen rock
never listen to youtubers.
muted surge
for a bit higher auto attack rage gen
brazen rock
about anything
muted surge
but i dont play fury, so idk
and ye, dagger would be better then
if theres a str dagger :D
urban skiff
never listen to youtubers.
I only listen to bajheera because his music is banging
and he looks good
thick reef
U need to be dual wielding for the benefits no?
So having one of each is stupid
So u take smf which becomes a dead talent to get enrage proc and 5% attack speed with ur one hand
thick reef
Oh
muted surge
he even said it in the comment
thick reef
Ah hell naww moment
urban skiff
I think he's just doing it for annihilator procs
probably the real damage is coming from 10 stacks of death wish.
brazen rock
i think hes just doing it for clicks.
urban skiff
Wonder if that could be the meta. Death wish at 3 stacks with def stance up for a 0 damage increase and then pop cooldowns and drop to zerk stance?
keen coral
His reasoning is flawed from the beginning, because abilities do not directly scale off of weapon DPS anymore. That was changed like 2-3 expansions ago. They just scale off of attack power, and 2h weapons give more strength = more attack power. Comparing my slam with a 1h (379) and a 2h (376), the 2h only does 500 more damage.
That isn't to say that his end result is necessarily bad, but it def seems to me like the difference is marginal at best and he's basically playing SMF without the SMF bonus, and would be better off just getting 2 2h weapons worth of str and stam
urban skiff
does the weapon dps contribute to the attack power as part of the normalization?
brazen rock
hes also speccing into whirlwind to cleave unrated BGs.
so why not just ignore him entirely.
lean burrow
anyone here uses personal resource bar?
I just found out that it shows debuffs on you below character
seems useful
keen coral
does the weapon dps contribute to the attack power as part of the normalization?
If it does, it's a very small amount. Comparing the same 2 weapons, I lose 169 strength and 175 attack power equipping the 1h over the 2h.
high sparrow
this is some cursed shit lmao
stuck root
Bajheera just gets a mob of healers to hug his dick and cleaves scrubs in unrated bgs lol
I have been on the receiving end before and he just has a mob following him around the entire game
urban skiff
can't hate him when I want the same thing
undone pumice
never listen to youtubers.
yeah fuck mud!
lean burrow
mud abuse
fading seal
how do you guys handle shadowpriests atm?
they just facetank me and kill me with instants
stuck root
Be better idk
brazen rock
do more dam
stuck root
Usually i can sustain fine against sprirst
brazen rock
reflecting the initial vamp touch usually puts a wrench in their shit pretty good
if you reflect mindgames, gg
undone pumice
i take wrecking with demo so i can kill the absorbs, save sr for mindgames and try my very best not to let them run away with dispersion
urban skiff
how do you guys handle shadowpriests atm?
wrecking throw + warbringer charge. Brings their shields down instantly
stuck root
Demo is troll ngl
Warbringer trance and slaughterhouse are all great
I pretty much only drop warbringer for disarm currently
urban skiff
barbarian is also great
stuck root
Not really
urban skiff
autoyeet to fight another day
undone pumice
doesnt it do the extra dmg to them?
brazen rock
it doesnt spill over
urban skiff
wish it did
brazen rock
my god if it did 
stuck root
You are trading charge damage for throw damage
undone pumice
i think it used to
stuck root
Not really worth it
brazen rock
it probably did at one point
lucid walrus
i think it used to
there were clips of shatter one-taps on wowhighlights before
undone pumice
in early sl
brazen rock
its already kind of a hilarious OP ability vs some classes
undone pumice
im psure
brazen rock
if it spilled over it'd one shot people
lucid walrus
there came a point where shatter was fixed to no longer overkill
urban skiff
what other classes or specs plays like fury warrior in pvp? Specifically a brawler type who doesn't mind staying in combat for extended periods of time
lucid walrus
outlaw rogue
stuck root
Dk is closest
lucid walrus
dk
undone pumice
assass, dk, outlaw
stuck root
Dk suck tho
urban skiff
dk is too close 😦
undone pumice
maybe enha
stuck root
Enhance is squish
urban skiff
I did level a rogue and am having some fun with sub, kind of want to try assa but apparently it's a whole different set of stats I'll want
undone pumice
it has similar proccygameplay to raging blow fury
stuck root
I did level a rogue and am having some fun with sub, kind of want to try assa bu...
Do 2 bgs and get a whole new set lol
urban skiff
win rate has returned down closer to 50%, at least here in the weekend
stuck root
Less if you war mode and do the quests for bloody tokens/air drops
The brawl is good for winning
stuck root
Its only active in world pvp
undone pumice
i know
urban skiff
not in bgs?
undone pumice
its funny af to delete people and be gigatanky
urban skiff
jfc why have i been wearing 408 gear
stuck root
But its only 3 ilvl worse than honor gearp
Because it is basically the same lol
Better off saving honor to upgrade conq gear
I cant believe ive seen people paying to upgrade 340s
undone pumice
pretty sure nothing works in pvp from pve, not the cobalt assembly ring, not the set bonus from drakebreaker gear, tier set probably will cuz fuck pvp only players
urban skiff
I already have the gear in my bags
urban skiff
i got to play with the ring for like 2 hours
was glorious with huge shields
it's nerfed by 60% now
urban skiff
tbh I won't need honor for upgrading conq
that would require getting rating above 1k
urban skiff
Won't matter much tbh
I'm going to be decked out in pve gear above the conq gear pve ilvl long before i get close to rating that could compete
undone pumice
what
lucid walrus
honestly no point upgrading conq gear to pve
summer root
Is there a vault in DF?
raw summit
yes
lime wasp
might seem like a silly question, but you shouldnt ever play dstance in pvp right
lime wasp
I thought there might be a case for it playing prot warr in bgs, where u have more of a utility/peeling role
hence maybe being more tanky has more value than the dmg
but in arenas as fury I assume its dog
brazen rock
uh
no you can go def stance as fury
when being focused
20% dr (warpaint) ontop of us healing 2% per global is great.
lime wasp
oh, you literally just taught me that you can swap stances freely even in combat
makes sense actually
time to up my gameplay
ty for the advice
paper wigeon
guys which socket do we use ? versa ? haste?
brazen rock
vers+haste gems for fury.
delicate geode
paper wigeon
thanks
indigo snow
Hey gang, I’ve been trying to make a cancel aura macro for bladestorm work. I usually bake it into execute or pummel, but neither of working.
#showtooltip Execute
/cancelaura Bladestorm
/cast Execute
Am I missing something, why isn’t this working like it used to?
wet scarab
If you are talented into hurricane you can’t cancel bladestorm
viscid horizon
What is a good way to find arena partners?
Was trying to see if there is a good site or discord to use
hard hound
Check pvp
brazen rock
theres a few discords but they're fairly inactive, or gatekeepy as fuck
sharp meteor
Issue with directly looking for partners is that everybody only really goes across or up, similar to lfg
Can always just spam lfg and collect tags
I got so many healers just queuing alts
spice hornet
I just LFG
sharp meteor
this season if my healers aren't on i just shuffle
gonna b a chill time
wonder how rip lfg is gonna be for the challenger-duelist range
stuck root
oh, you literally just taught me that you can swap stances freely even in combat
Not only that it is off the global
Sit berserker until they focus you or if you expect them to try to kill you in cc
Then you swap
stuck root
Ill sit dstance against stealth classes
sharp meteor
unless other team is legit out of gas and it's their last hurrah
slim knoll
Hey guys new here. So does everyone pretty much run Bajheeras talents?
brazen rock
Pins.
sharp meteor
idk wtf is he running lmao
brazen rock
Pls ignore streamers
brazen rock
(Espeically mud he's a clown)
terse yacht
Is arms gear dependent or is it okay with fury gear ?
sharp meteor
if/when it get snerfed rb setup might be more appealing
sharp meteor
Is arms gear dependent or is it okay with fury gear ?
imo gear works fine for both
although arms wants a bit of crit imo
brazen rock
Haste vers gear feels ok
sharp meteor
it is very fast to gear now
terse yacht
Yeah im scared about the fury nerf
I just fully geared fury and im already off speccing from prot for PVE
sharp meteor
if all stacks drop at 9 seconds then ya idk just play with dh/havoc then
and it'll still be at least high tier
terse yacht
Cause the fury nerfs are pretty big right ?
sharp meteor
potentially yes
mostly the slaughterhouse change
if it rolls then we fine if it doesn't then just queue with dh or ww imo
or maybe like demo or feral
terse yacht
My friends have been playing arcane and disc priest for our 3’s and weve had huge success in unrated
wheat crane
this season if my healers aren't on i just shuffle
Shuffle n chill
sharp meteor
being able to just hit a button and get into a game was just so cool with bgs
gonna be a popular rated mode imo
regal cradle
what is the stat prio for fury pvp?
sharp meteor
lots of people wanna queue arena i think but don't wanna suffer lfg
sharp meteor
what is the stat prio for fury pvp?
vers/haste>mastery>crit or something
terse yacht
Ya im really excited for shuffle
slim knoll
Are the fury nerfs warranted or is the general consensus totally overkill bullshit?
sharp meteor
warranted
will probs get more healing nerfs soon to stuff like trance/impending but we'll see
wheat crane
Next is solo rbg
sharp meteor
i just think the slaughterhouse change might be kind of clunky
wheat crane
Then i never have to lfg a bunch of fucking mouth breathing neckbeards again
sharp meteor
guardian got beaten with a bat wym
slim knoll
Solo rbg? Wym?
wheat crane
Next thing we need to lobby for
terse yacht
Oh ig i cant read lol
wheat crane
Solo q rbgs like shuffle
slim knoll
Yeah I have like 30 discord servers of pure rbg groups it is rough going
glad pagoda
is fury still gona be better than arms?
slim knoll
I hope so, fuck. Slaughtering strikes seems like shit now
3 rampages to max it and it’s what, 4% less mitigation?
slim knoll
Hope so I love fury
obsidian loom
brothers if rogues dont get a gutting we're so fucked
slim knoll
Ik I just had to 1v1 one in a skirm and I felt so helpless
And we haven’t even been nerfed yet
iron fractal
Arms or fury for bg's?
gloomy river
yo guys noob question, does honor gear upgrade to conquest gear , or it will be complete diferent pieces like it was in last expansion
vocal root
Different set my friend
gloomy river
aight thx, then im not enchanting weapons with 80k gold enchant
keen coral
#make overpower great again against evasion and just like in general i guess i love overpower doing a ton of damage
vocal root
What are the enchants for fury pls
stuck root
I think mastery is the pick
Haste lets us spam more but it is more impactful to hit harder i think
undone pumice
we alrdy have mainly haste from our pcs
so mastery is good and main stat can not be bad
stuck root
Ya haste is probably hitting dr already with enrage
slim knoll
Isn’t softcap like 30% on secondary stats?
undone pumice
yh
fickle forge
Who made this
slim knoll
What’s the cd on that?
fickle forge
"SP is doing his 20 year long stun/fear/silence chain, dw bro I'll top you from CC"
wheat crane
Who made this
This is what i was complaining about yesterday
copper hare
"SP is doing his 20 year long stun/fear/silence chain, dw bro I'll top you from ...
should have seen whaazz rage in war games
wheat crane
Stun em after their immune to like 3 fucking ccs
slim knoll
I noticed I can’t hamstring evokers half the time. Wtf is that
wheat crane
Then they just cast that
copper hare
500 iq setups, outplaying the whole team, prevoker just pressing communion xd
wheat crane
Dumb fucking spec
brazen rock
I noticed I can’t hamstring evokers half the time. Wtf is that
hover makes them immune to slows.
slim knoll
Whats the cd on hover?
fickle forge
should have seen whaazz rage in war games
I hate uwukers man
thick reef
Whats the cd on hover?
As far as your concerned, yes
brazen rock
I forget exactly
lean burrow
I noticed I can’t hamstring evokers half the time. Wtf is that
if you got something like plater
copper hare
they could probably nerf all their healing by 20% right now and they would still be gucci
wheat crane
Its retarded
lean burrow
you might need to manually add buffs
thick reef
I dont even bother Hamstringing an Evoker
undone pumice
thick reef
As soon as you see the dash they got that immunity
stuck root
Evoker heals are retarded rn
brazen rock
dont forget obsid scales makes them immune to kicks and silences
stuck root
Evoker damage is a joke tho
stuck root
Outside of drive by flames they suck ass
thick reef
Yeah, but driveby Flames is fucking disgusting lmao
compact heron
what are the little dots over evokers head in arena
undone pumice
yh but u dont need to deal dmg if u can keep urself and ur dps alive indefinitely
stuck root
yh but u dont need to deal dmg if u can keep urself and ur dps alive indefinitel...
Im talking dev
shrewd frost
is it currentlz better fury or arms to arenas/rbgs ?
undone pumice
devokers are degenerates
brazen rock
fury is better rn
stuck root
Dev is ass
shrewd frost
fury is better rn
for both ?
thick reef
yes
slim knoll
And post nerf?
lean burrow
Outside of drive by flames they suck ass
what's drive by flames
iron fractal
Is there any build up for arms pvp?
brazen rock
missing 4 sec duration from talents + pvp talent to make them immune to slows.
brazen rock
Is there any build up for arms pvp?
yes it involves setup
thick reef
what's drive by flames
they can make Fire Breath instant cast at max charges with a dps cd
and it just shreds
but outside of that is hits like tissue paper
lean burrow
isn't it Tip the scales
brazen rock
root into shatter > breath > surge is fairly big dam
but thats it
yeah thats the cd
lean burrow
what's drive by flame then
brazen rock
surge is predictable and gg if you reflect it
lean burrow
copper hare
Idk, dps evoker seems pretty meh after the oneshot nerf, it has no real kill potential anymore and is kinda squishy
heal on the other hand..
stuck root
Drive by is the fly 50 yards and breathe fire
brazen rock
so deep breath.
stuck root
Its like a 2-3 minute cooldown tho
fading seal
Cant find anywhere but what enchants is people running?
stuck root
Idk why they decided evoker can just ignore cc forever
brazen rock
speed, vers/mainstat wep procs
stuck root
Immune 3 hard cc and immune slows forever
stuck root
Oh and dont forget ice block
severe skiff
what are the odds frozen devotion gets nerfed again, it's like 10%~ of overall damage
copper hare
Immune 3 hard cc and immune slows forever
I think the anti slow thing will see a change, maybe not season 1 but for sure anytime
severe skiff
yeah
tawny river
how people can enjoy fury is beyond my understanding
lean burrow
I will enjoy the salt of my opponents
sharp meteor
It's fun to run people over.
tawny river
yeah they can think they are good in the game 😄
sharp meteor
Rating is rating.
brazen rock
yeah they can think they are good in the game 😄
oh noo i have a few less buttons to press than other dps to do damage 😦
fickle forge
lol what is that
Now imagine Alter Time into Chrono Loop
brazen rock
fickle forge
Destroyed
sharp meteor
oh noo i have a few less buttons to press than other dps to do damage 😦
I may have missed gladiator again but at least I play a skillful class 😎
tawny river
oh noo i have a few less buttons to press than other dps to do damage 😦
yeah u totally understand the case fellow fury enjoyer 😄
sharp meteor
Yeah, dps feels chill after healing.
glad pagoda
are 5% boots bis?
tawny river
i don't understand people who prefer arms how can play an abomination spec like fury
glad pagoda
should i craft them?
tawny river
maybe it is just me
sharp meteor
I'm already griefing my teammates with a feed race.
sterile carbon
how people can enjoy fury is beyond my understanding
Fun, easy, effective, low brain power required.
sharp meteor
I'm not showing up as the worse spec to boot.
brazen rock
i don't understand people who prefer arms how can play an abomination spec like ...
because both specs are easy?
and i just enjoy playing the game
tawny river
Fun, easy, effective, low brain power required.
actually this would be true if people wouldn't only play it for its ridiculous power rn
cus fotm
sharp meteor
Yeah, but I can pretend I'm smarter when I play ARms.
lean burrow
Now imagine Alter Time into Chrono Loop
sharp meteor
and say I would've been higher as an easier spec 🧠
sterile carbon
actually this would be true if people wouldn't only play it for its ridiculous p...
Ye, will always be meta chasers, everyone enjoys the game differently I guess
onyx vale
a man must have principles
copper hare
and say I would've been higher as an easier spec 🧠
You know a fun fact
tawny river
and say I would've been higher as an easier spec 🧠
you could be like 2.8k soloQ DHs prepatch, they will write it in LFG next week 100%
copper hare
Most people that constantly shit on easy classes still wouldn't push past 2k rating on the easiest classes
xd
onyx vale
delete racials in rated pvp
sharp meteor
Most people that constantly shit on easy classes still wouldn't push past 2k rat...
so true
lean burrow
delete racials in rated pvp
sharp meteor
every 2k rogue thinking they'd be higher if they played a good class 
brazen rock
you could be like 2.8k soloQ DHs prepatch, they will write it in LFG next week 1...
except DH was literally broken due to legendary interaction with soul rend
sterile carbon
The whole arms Vs fury difficulty thing is so weird to me. Do people take bad low paying jobs in real life just so they can flex how they're living on hard mode or something
onyx vale
some do
sharp meteor
It just feels like hardstuck cope.
Most people don't enjoy fury being better but it is. Or was.
lean burrow
DH: "Yes!"
copper hare
The whole arms Vs fury difficulty thing is so weird to me. Do people take bad lo...
As I said, it's mostly just the cringe people that don't even play pvp seriously and don't even try to get a bit higher every season
tribal wedge
let people enjoy their spe ahah
lean burrow
"me DH! 3k xp!"
glad pagoda
why are people on yt saying fury is dead if they havent tried the changes yet
sharp meteor
"why do the honest creators on youtube make clickbait"
glad pagoda
its tier list
sharp meteor
worst case scenario imo is that fury ms is dead and you just play with something that has a ms, like ww or dh
onyx vale
its cuz tier lists are shit
sharp meteor
fury itself seems fine
brazen rock
its tier list
tierlists lmao
sharp meteor
also tier lists are a meme
brazen rock
its click farming
sharp meteor
but the epic rerolls need to know what to play for their 1800 2v2 push
brazen rock
kittycleave will still run over the bracket
sharp meteor
(that they just do a viewer game to finish anyways)
sharp meteor
kittycleave will still *run* over the bracket
ya foral durid seems strong
brazen rock
ya foral durid seems strong
the feral side of the tree is overloaded
you can get frenzy / swarm goes and 1min convoke
onyx vale
it seems feral doesnt have the 2 points taxes to go anywhere in the tree
tawny river
The whole arms Vs fury difficulty thing is so weird to me. Do people take bad lo...
this is the most idiotic comparison i have ever read probably
glad pagoda
worst case scenario imo is that fury ms is dead and you just play with something...
movment speed?
brazen rock
this is the most idiotic comparison i have ever read probably
buddy trying to flex you play the harder of two specs is cringe and stupid
especially when arms isn't even hard
sterile carbon
this is the most idiotic comparison i have ever read probably
About as idiotic as arms Vs fury debate 😉
tawny river
no one talked about fury vs arms, i just said fury is braindead
brazen rock
and arms is braindead +1
copper hare
no one talked about fury vs arms, i just said fury is braindead
you should try it out then
could fit you
no flame
brazen rock
sharp meteor
movment speed?
slaughterhouse
stuck root
WoW is braindead
copper hare
wow is honestly so fun rn
elfin surge
copper hare
Dude stop people will believe that
light granite
2.9 solo Dh here looking to fotm to warrior. hai guys
steep inlet
rofl
onyx vale
As you pass by
Remember this
As you are now
So once were we
As we are now
So shall you be
molten jolt
i see we got an iv guide update but its still using last xpac gems and enchants, is that wip or are they actually better
sharp meteor
old stuff can't even be used i think lmao
new stuff is just like 50k
and will be 100k on tuesday
gritty salmon
As someone whos gonna paly fury all season
the nerfs were okay
Everyone knew we would get nerfed
question was how much, and the answer was acceptable
Our damage is the same, our self healing is relatively the same
copper hare
ugandawoyer
gritty salmon
ZUG ZUG
Also, our MS became nerfeed into necrotic wounds
coudl have been worse
I think they should buff the duration to 12 sec tho
stuck root
12 is a bit too long
sudden barn
Does leveling up my honor gear still matter in a bg?
full quiver
thanks for the expert furry analysis
🤣
gritty salmon
I disagree because you have to make more stacks
stuck root
It should be possible to cc and run to remove slaughter stacks
sudden barn
Lame
stuck root
How
gritty salmon
It should be possible to cc and run to remove slaughter stacks
It would still be possible by 12 seconds
stuck root
You want to grind honor to be on par?
stuck root
It would still be possible by 12 seconds
How often has a player escaprd you for 12 seconds
gritty salmon
Bloodthirst now restores 2% of your health in PvP combat (was 3%).
Slaughterhouse now decreases healing taken by 3% per stack (was 5% per stack).
Slaughterhouse now stacks up to 12 times (was 8 times).
Slaughterhouse duration increased to 9 seconds (was 6 seconds).
Slaughterhouse duration is no longer refreshed when adding stacks.
Slaughterhouse now stacks up to 12 times
meaning its an extra set of rampage
9 seconds is to little
stuck root
It is too little when the buff doesnt refresh
gritty salmon
How often has a player escaprd you for 12 seconds
Thats not really the point, because the issue isnt about keeping it up, the effect resets itself anyways
So you still have to rebuild it
Yes, thats what i msaying
stuck root
So if you have max stacks and use it then it refreshes?
gritty salmon
9 seconds its to little if it resets itself
It resets itself after 9 seconds regardless of the stack
stuck root
Ok that is ass
gritty salmon
so say you have max stack at 9 seconds
it resets itself to 0
so you gotta rebuild it
stuck root
I mean its not bad it was just stupid beforep
sharp meteor
Does leveling up my honor gear still matter in a bg?
no
late nacelle
Tbh 3k rating fury warr is like a 1.2k rated arms warrior in skill
gritty salmon
Yea hence why I think it should be buffed to 12 seconds, I understand that our MS was too strong because lets face it was
sharp meteor
Tbh 3k rating fury warr is like a 1.2k rated arms warrior in skill
I'm like the same rating on both idk arms has a bit more finesse but it's not much
urban skiff
so say you have max stack at 9 seconds
No. 9 seconds after your rampage you lose the stacks that it gave.
gritty salmon
No. 9 seconds after your rampage you lose the stacks that it gave.
It resets all the stacks
its literally necrotic wounds
stuck root
Ya if it stacks it wont know what stacks are what
late nacelle
I'm like the same rating on both idk arms has a bit more finesse but it's not mu...
No
copper hare
Tbh 3k rating fury warr is like a 1.2k rated arms warrior in skill
let me guess, you're not the fury war in this comparison?
stuck root
It would@have to be seperate debuffs
copper hare
xd
late nacelle
I am
gritty salmon
Like it doesnt go from 3 stacks to 2 stacks, when it hits 9 seconds, that would make it permanent 36 % MS
late nacelle
Braindead spec
daring wadi
Do you guys think subbing out of slaughterhouse for a more defensive talent like rebound or disarm will work if you run with a dh with mortal dance?
late nacelle
Free glad
gritty salmon
Arms was literally child mode in 70 % of shadowlands
brazen rock
Tbh 3k rating fury warr is like a 1.2k rated arms warrior in skill
is this the excuse you'll use playing in the 1200-1600 bracket all expansion?
gritty salmon
Season 1 and season 2 shadowlands, arms were literally the best melee spec
stuck root
I got 2100 in 2s by training the healer as arms with condemn lol
gritty salmon
By the looks of this discord and their reaction to fury being viable
stuck root
Literally head empty
gritty salmon
a lot
stuck root
Made my bro reroll to resto drood so i didnt have to babysit him at all
brazen rock
Like it doesnt go from 3 stacks to 2 stacks, when it hits 9 seconds, that would ...
imagine if the intern just worded it badly and this is how it works
late nacelle
is this the excuse you'll use playing in the 1200-1600 bracket all expansion?
No, I'm getting 2.4k on reset day
gritty salmon
imagine if the intern just worded it badly and this is how it works <:keks:93623...
Yea if thats the case its legit even better then what we had lmfao
brazen rock
No, I'm getting 2.4k on reset day
yeah im sure bud
im sure ill run over you at some point playing kitty
gritty salmon
Because then it is literally permanent 36 % MS even if they kite
daring wadi
I pugged myself to 2300 rating before stopping from too much lfg brainrot.
daring wadi
Arms was easy af in sl
gritty salmon
I think solo shuffle was the best inventio nthey made to PVP for years
I hope they do a solo RBG aswell
stuck root
so your gonna play arms/arms/healer just to really make it chadmode?
Did that bfa season 1
daring wadi
I hope they do a solo RBG aswell
God I hope not
stuck root
Got 2100 in two sessions bladestorm ftw
brazen rock
No, I'm getting 2.4k on reset day
solo shuffle doesn't count also.
late nacelle
Im gonna do 2v2 first
gritty salmon
Im gonna go 2v2, get 2k there and then try solo
late nacelle
Surprisingly strong
brazen rock
but hey atleast your playing the chad spec right
gritty salmon
Ngl, whenever I face arms I feel happy
because its an easy fight
Once the parry is over
they are literally dead meat
late nacelle
If you cant figure out how to make it work in 2s then im sorry to say but the problem is you
daring wadi
Yeah 2s till 2.1k then 3s with the gear sounds like the play
stuck root
Give fury dbts again cowards
sterile carbon
Fury = automatic car drivers, arms = manual stick megachad drivers
late nacelle
Automatic isnt even driving
brazen rock
Fury = automatic car drivers, arms = manual stick megachad drivers
so fury is better and faster and arms is for the purists that are ok being slower and worse?
indigo snow
If you are talented into hurricane you can’t cancel bladestorm
Wow that’s hilarious. I was so confused thank you for the clarification
sterile carbon
so fury is better and faster and arms is for the purists that are ok being slowe...
Correct
brazen rock
daring wadi
Arms is literally the little bro spec. Had a moment of glory then got pushed to the side after a single buff/change.
late nacelle
Guys...
brazen rock
Arms is literally the little bro spec. Had a moment of glory then got pushed to ...
its had 15 years of glory.
late nacelle
If you dont see how free fatality is
gritty salmon
Listen, I main a FDK it could be worse thats all im saying, for all arms people bitching about not being S for like the first time in many years.
late nacelle
Then you have no hope
gritty salmon
Dont worry because blizzard loves you
daring wadi
its had 15 years of glory.
gritty salmon
And when season 2 or 3 hits you will be S again
stuck root
Fatality only good if you can get them low in the first place xd
brazen rock
gl getting people to fatality range sitting in def stance all game
daring wadi
Tbf all this season feels like will he running at a warlock sp rdu that is borderline unkillable
gritty salmon
I think the true s tier specs this season will be monks and Spriests
late nacelle
It is so insanely strong for 2v2
late nacelle
3s you'd probs go full utility still
gritty salmon
What do you guys think is better fury for 2s or solo shuffle
thick reef
Playing 2s and getting that 13 stacks of fatality
late nacelle
Fury is good
daring wadi
NGL rebound looks like a fun talent for versing destro locks
late nacelle
But u wont learn the game playing fury
gritty salmon
Thats good
brazen rock
lmao
gritty salmon
What is the stack cap to fatality
thick reef
No cap
late nacelle
Very high
daring wadi
If Shadowlands taught me anything it's that learning the game is pointless when you can 1 shot someone in a global.
rich sedge
does panda have arena food in dragonflight
late nacelle
U literally oneshot em
gritty salmon
Seems like a gimick that will get abused
thick reef
Its 50% dmg in pvp
thick reef
But is insane for long gamea
gritty salmon
What is the stat priority for arms nowadays
late nacelle
Dip below 30% once and its gg
thick reef
Its like touch of death but at 30% ye
daring wadi
Dip below 30% once and its gg
Average DH wincon
fickle forge
I, too, enjoy 90% damp matches
gritty salmon
As I said that will get nerfed once people notice it though
brazen rock
I, too, enjoy 90% damp matches
arms will die before they even get to 30%
fickle forge
Fatality good, just Q with prot pala and MW 😎👍
thick reef
Acting like mortal strike wont hit for 130k because u specced fatality 😂😂
late nacelle
Arms is pretty tanky
brazen rock
second dbts drops they flop.
brazen rock
Arms is pretty tanky
good troll
fickle forge
Arms is pretty tanky
.
zenith marlin
wE GoT sPEeL RefELeCT
late nacelle
You got no movement game
brazen rock
your a clown buddy
gritty salmon
People think Arms here is a D tier spec
thick reef
It is
daring wadi
I mean. I think warriors are mid when it comes to tankiness
copper hare
Arms is pretty tanky
thank you for calling customer service, we can't help you
daring wadi
They aren't paper but they aren't DKs
late nacelle
your a clown buddy
Enjoy ur hardstuck 1300 rating
gritty salmon
Mate dks are not tanky anymore
brazen rock
Enjoy ur hardstuck 1300 rating
ok
gritty salmon
yo guys need to understandd that
fickle forge
Arms falls over after parry
brazen rock
enjoy your 90% damp games
gritty salmon
It got massively nerfed its not even a glass cannon anymore
fickle forge
It is what it is
late nacelle
I will
zenith marlin
arms falls over to any magic dmg dealer xd
daring wadi
So what classes are tanky now? feral druids?
late nacelle
I'll make sure to send u a pic of my glad mount so u can jerk off to it later
opaque quarry
gritty salmon
Unironically warlocks
late nacelle
I got u bro
thick reef
If 90 damp is wincon then it is what it is
gritty salmon
and spriests are tanky
daring wadi
Cloth > Plate. Gotta love it
zenith marlin
any class that needs to be tanky is not tanky
any class that doesnt need to be tanky is tanky
gritty salmon
Im not joking warlocks and spriests are very very tanky
zenith marlin
^
gritty salmon
especially warlocks
raw summit
https://gyazo.com/2e04ef4bfbb5b4e6d5e93c63b5e31030
Almans überall wtf
fickle forge
I'll make sure to send u a pic of my glad mount so u can jerk off to it later
I'll tag you bro, I believe in you 😎👍
daring wadi
Bro my damage got out healed by a warlock spamming drainlifr earlier. It was painful
zenith marlin
Ok thats on u buddy
fickle forge
Don't forget Reflex doe, so you can show dem arms games off
molten jolt
i just want to be able to use 1h mogs
daring wadi
Ok thats on u buddy
That or the fact I was on a fresh geared warrior and he had like 400k hp
zenith marlin
ye i watch warlock CDs to reflect mortal coil but a mf imp or smth breaks it instantly xd
Well being a fresh geared warrior vs a full honor geared warlock is on u
daring wadi
Bro I ain't using omnibar in a bg
fickle forge
What do you need omni for?
copper hare
Arms is pretty tanky
zenith marlin
like it'll no longer function proper vs Pallies stuns
teal maple
Arms is pretty tanky
zenith marlin
ill 1v1 any "tanky" arms as fury
daring wadi
Arms is pretty tanky
fickle forge
Arms is pretty tanky
raw summit
Arms is pretty tanky
daring wadi
I mean looking past the Nerf it could be worse. We could be DKs
zenith marlin
atleast DKs can spam Death Strike under WoN
copper hare
raw summit
improved DS and WON got halved
copper hare
I had to
daring wadi
Like. If they're going to make it a singular pull. Why not have the spell be that it pulls everything to you in a 30 yard radius to you once. Atleast then it might have some usage
zenith marlin
why do they have to cater to healers in pvp all day
plush roost
fury is pretty tanky
daring wadi
Abom limb I mean
fickle forge
I mean looking past the Nerf it could be worse. We could be DKs
Fucking DKs man
I've never seen a class be so ready to go be S tier, and then get completely dumpstered in a single patch note before launch
And they didn't just gut 1 spec, they sniped all 3 of them with the same nuke
zenith marlin
ikr that's so fkn annoying
u try new talents all pre patch
level it
than they delete it
daring wadi
Fucking DKs man
I've never seen a class be so ready to go be S tier, and then ge...
The blade dance change for DHs going from BFA to SL?
zenith marlin
at that point i dont even care
stopped reading patch notes even
just going blind warr
copper hare
The blade dance change for DHs going from BFA to SL?
yeah dh was unplayable in SL s1
:-)
plush roost
i think fury is more tanky
daring wadi
I literally can't remember sl s1 xD
zenith marlin
Shouldn't DHs destroy casters but get slammed by any Plate class
as is the idk "class fantasy"
kekw
slim knoll
I was gonna main unholy before the ass fucking they got. I main warrior most expansions but I was so pissed off that tusks of mannoroth wouldn’t drop after 500+ kills that I couldn’t stomach looking at my shoulderless warrior anymore
daring wadi
I mean that's what DKs should do too
fickle forge
The blade dance change for DHs going from BFA to SL?
Nah, DH still went dom when necrolord made an entrance
plush roost
I was gonna main unholy before the ass fucking they got. I main warrior most exp...
that sucks
for you
LOL!!
green wyvern
rogue shits on every other melee
zenith marlin
ill eat any rogue as fury
zenith marlin
they pop their silly gas bubble
green wyvern
Cds
zenith marlin
Then I go from 40k hp to 310k in 2 gcds
light granite
i'll eat a rogue's butthole
slim knoll
ill eat any rogue as fury
I don’t believe this
light granite
dirty b hole
daring wadi
Just bladestorm the kidney. Oh wait
light granite
eating it
copper hare
Atleast DKs eat Rogues alive i think
nah, dk was always the hard counter to rogue mage in 2s, but not into rogue healer
copper hare
if sub stays like that, busted
light granite
cracked
zenith marlin
I think tanks no longer take random 50% more dmg in pvp
So tank comps will keep them in check
in BFA as Protadin and Arms we ranked 2.6k in 2s just by stomping mage rogue comps
everytime fkers pulled smth I had an immunity kekw
green wyvern
2s is dead this expansiin
daring wadi
Protadin meta in sl was the worst
green wyvern
no reason to play it
zenith marlin
protadins in SL were casuals
hated them
esp since Holy did exactly what they did but better
daring wadi
That's what I mean. It felt like unearned wins
fickle forge
Warr + prot in SL was true barbell bencher comp
zenith marlin
I went double moonkin prot in 3s in SL 1st season to 2.4k
Aura of Mastery gave interrupt immunity
zenith marlin
popped 2 immunities on them for stuns and popped aura for interrupt immunity and they just cast convoke
xdxd
fickle forge
Eksdee
zenith marlin
70% of the games was just mashing a cast sequence
hazy isle
Is gladius just fucked for any1 else
wheat crane
Yea
wheat crane
Is gladius just fucked for any1 else
Use the gladex one
Regular gladius sl is fucked
hazy isle
Use the gladex one
👍
steep inlet
I think tanks no longer take random 50% more dmg in pvp
? No
steep inlet
I went double moonkin prot in 3s in SL 1st season to 2.4k
Mega yikes
zenith marlin
Tanks had a hidden debuff implemented in SL S2 that made them take 50% more dmg in PvP
or I beleive it was BFA S2
Probably BFA S2
brazen rock
I went double moonkin prot in 3s in SL 1st season to 2.4k
this isnt something you admit publicly.
zenith marlin
It took me 1 sitting in the first week before Convoke nerfs
then I capped conquest with 2s for the rest of the patch
man I want one of these:
PvP in this makes u instant glad
molten jolt
i heard the bloody token gear 2 piece works in instances, is this true
brazen rock
you heard wrong.
zenith marlin
maybe pve instanes
copper hare
the question is how many hunting trophys do we get per week
brazen rock
strife trophies?
brazen rock
the adventure guide has a recommended "activity" that rewards 4.
obviously you cant do said activity yet
brazen rock
who knows if its a weekly activity or not
zenith marlin
mostly low levels I one shot
brazen rock
but 4 per week seems low
wheat crane
man I want one of these:
Bobs discount furniture man, lets you open a store credit and pay monthly with 0 interest
Most of em come with usb outlets to charge your electronics now
wheat crane
Wonder if they in canada
Worth checking, i got these from em + a recliner for like under 3 grand usb, cupholders, electric reclining the works
Comfy af
zenith marlin
damn cup holders would slap
getting real tired of this computer chair, and I am thinking I can expense a lazy boy as home office
wheat crane
You can 100% if you have your own scorp or llc and bill it under the company name as misc expenses
zenith marlin
haha hell yeah
wheat crane
If you work for someone else not sure
late nacelle
Based 1k rating gamer
brazen rock
no im pre sure its obtainable
zenith marlin
rip
brazen rock
Based 1k rating gamer
finally back from your 90% damp game?
tawny river
is there any haste cap % for arms?
brazen rock
is there any haste cap % for arms?
30% is secondary stat softcap
zenith marlin
simming is ur friend tho no?
zenith marlin
nice finally a cool set
tawny river
simming is ur friend tho no?
simming? for pvp?
brazen rock
regular dread glad is ofc
tawny river
30% is secondary stat softcap
ahh yeah i totally forgot that they put that in in SL
brazen rock
your asking if theres a % of haste where arms experiences a massive falloff of value
you can sim that.
tawny river
i meant a cap like minimum u need
zenith marlin
love how they just ignored this part of the mob
zenith marlin
bare polyogns there
clear quiver
whats furys best weapon enchants rn?