idk what stops ppl from popping defensives+ offensives and force you to DBTS and die afterwards as arms
#pvp
limber wagon
craggy socket
you just die
limber wagon
if survivability is enough that healers can keep you up without defensives it might be good
but if its like shadowlands its t10
green wyvern
bruh people really making judgments off skirms
limber wagon
its not exactly rocket science though is it 😄
craggy socket
bruh people really making judgments off skirms
What am I suppose to judge off there genius
Solo is how I play the game soo 
copper hare
Ye sure 
junior kelp
thorn herald
Maybe idk
green wyvern
All melees got their survivability gutted
thorn herald
Depends on how quickly arms falls over when targeted in 3s
Fury still passively very tanky
sterile socket
1 hour ago insane pressure, now is trash. Its complicated
green wyvern
not really, fury's passive tankiness took a nerf too
brazen rock
craggy socket
1 hour ago insane pressure, now is trash. Its complicated
It's trash because you die
thorn herald
Bloodthirst didn't get changed
green wyvern
how so
thorn herald
It's damage went up by a whipping 1%
sterile socket
So you wanted insane damage, and insane survivability, got you.
Wrong class
green wyvern
From 3% heal to 2%
undone pumice
zamn
craggy socket
So you wanted insane damage, and insane survivability, got you.
Wrong class
What class is that?!?!
green wyvern
bloodthirst took a 33% nerf
craggy socket
WARLOCK OR SP?!
thorn herald
Where is that change listed
copper hare
"insane dmg"
sterile socket
Some of the ones that are getting nerves on the 12th
green wyvern
patch notes for 14 december
sterile socket
Nerfs
thorn herald
Yeah the slaughterhouse changes smoke screened it
Maybe this season really will be great then
brazen rock
its healing went from 3 to 2%
night harbor
what spec are yall running in fury?
copper hare
How about instead of saying how viable arms is you play it yourself, drop the first 150 games across shuffle and 2s/3s and when you still think it's good you come here again
brazen rock
who knows, they made the distinction in the pve changes to buff both BB and BT by 1% damage to makeup for the gushing wounds 10% nerf.
I don't doubt bloodbath is still 3%.
thorn herald
but is bloodbath still 3
Wouldn't surprise me if overlooked it 🤣
warm kiln
Hi guys, was thinking to try Arms for a while , probably we have to switch from Fury soon, any builds around?
lean cedar
Frozen Devotion or Sophic Devotion for arms warrior pvp?
brazen rock
I want to say sophic
lean cedar
i was thinking same thing
thorn herald
Frozen Devotion or Sophic Devotion for arms warrior pvp?
Frozen is haste?
lean cedar
its aoe damage i think and sophic is stat buff
but according to the wow head its the best 2 enchants
brazen rock
frozen is the aoe dmg, i think Mud had it doing around 7% of his damage doing wargames yesterday
thorn herald
frozen is the aoe dmg, i think Mud had it doing around 7% of his damage doing wa...
That's a bit high for an enchant lol
brazen rock
That's a bit high for an enchant lol
fair bit of pad though
latent ruin
Yea its too strong
brazen rock
cleaving off-targets for 10k doesn't mean much
copper hare
Pad is still damage that has to be healed right
lean cedar
Well everyone is fury so i am like odd man out with arms lol..
brazen rock
plenty of passive healing going on rn though
but your right
fury could dw it though which might be hilarious.
copper hare
Kinda depends on how the uptime is on the primary/vers enchants
lean cedar
so what you think i should do lol? frozen?
copper hare
Do nothing for a couple weeks until it's figured out is my guess
thorn herald
so what you think i should do lol? frozen?
I'm doing burning writ for crit and cheap
brazen rock
over a 3 minute target dummy running regular rotation playing fury with sophic/frozen writs (str/vers procs)
Neither buff was ever up simultaneously
Frozen had 28% uptime, Sophic had 37%.
lean cedar
hmm
brazen rock
1* enchants also, idk if higher tier enchants increase ppm or not.
not wasting 20k on a 1* frozen devo enchant to check anything
grizzled zinc
are u using any specific WAs?
gilded sandal
What weapon enchants are people using:
brazen rock
sophic/frozen writs
hot solstice
why felguards bladestorm does more damage than Arms's?
sterile carbon
This is a smooth brain question but I'm new to warrior, does bladestorm break roots etc when you use it?
wanton pond
mastery over haste for fury?
shy tinsel
As a fury warr, should I play the pinned build, or the build available on wowhead ?
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/pvp-talent-builds
shy tinsel
aight ! thanks
elfin surge
drowsy wasp
What are your favorite comp in 3s? Ret/war, turbo, fury/spriest, fury/lock?
brazen rock
Def giving wls a shot if shaman gets buffed
latent hazel
and let the feral do it
brazen rock
I just won't pick MS, feral can do it
But givin that feral usually gets trained nonstop, I'll try it with arms too
Every second cat gets to spend outside of bear is a W in my book.
lethal sandal
so how are people feelinng about the fury changes?
full quiver
F tier
brazen rock
so how are people feelinng about the fury changes?
Good changes, 40% ms is bad for game, fury still good.
sterile carbon
Nice
sharp meteor
It'll also break CC you're hit by if you time it right.
void hamlet
fury is slapping in bgs
proud root
/cast [known] Shattering Throw; Wrecking Throw
undone pumice
ty gigachad
proud root
with #showtooltip above that
seen the [known] modifier somewhere else, but not 100% sure if it works xd
just checked - it should work
proud root
it doesn't work or?
undone pumice
it dont
proud root
oh
vital cedar
/cast [known:Shattering Throw] Shattering Throw; Wrecking Throw
undone pumice
weirdgame
vital cedar
try that maybe
proud root
I guess it makes sense they'd make it work like that
undone pumice
ty
cyan fog
This still accurate?
undone pumice
yes
woeful solstice
anyone have a battle/defensive stance toggle macro?
so i dont have to use two binds
grand mural
Not good ^
Let me get you better one
/cast [spec:1, nostance] Battle Stance; [spec:2, nostance] Berserker Stance; [spec:1, stance:1] Battle Stance; [spec:1, stance:2] Defensive Stance; [spec:2, stance:1] Berserker Stance; [spec:2, stance:2] Defensive Stance
@woeful solstice
@lethal sandal
woeful solstice
TY!
dusky parrot
<:peepoBlush:818323879315505233>
Thanks for making pvp vids so I can watch something while going through a breakup 
wheat crane
Sorry bud, fuck em tho, hit the gym, q up, enjoy life
dusky parrot
I did. Grew my biceps by 2 inches. Fuck that prick
whole forge
wheat crane
Think its usually a day later for eu
scarlet barn
9 am CET 14th of december
elfin surge
I did. Grew my biceps by 2 inches. Fuck that prick
HUGE
wheat jay
Yes
dusky parrot
Her bf said I couldn’t do shit and that I was a skinny fuck. So I got off my butt and lifted every day for a month. Then camped him for around 15 minutes until he logged. Who’s worth nothing now? 
wheat jay
Her bf said I couldn’t do shit and that I was a skinny fuck. So I got off my but...
Nice
Nothing better than hatred and spite 
Best motivator
thick reef
Imagine seeing the fury nerfs and not switching to arms 🤣
thick reef
It doesn't suck. It's probly just a little better than arms now
thick reef
Fury mains carrying 2 2 handers to compensate for small pp
wheat crane
Pretty sure wed all rather play arms
But im not gonna play a worse spec just because i like it better
thorn herald
Fury mains carrying 2 2 handers to compensate for small pp
I play smf and transmog the bladefist
wheat crane
^ fucking strong
brazen rock
I play smf and transmog the bladefist
Now this is Chad behavior
400 wilks kinda shit
lament belfry
I hate this change
There is literally no reason to change any of this other than increasing the stacks and percentage
lament belfry
There is no explanation too especially we were fine in the PVP testing in Beta.
It's a slap in the face while also ignoring the self healing thing when bloodthirst is on a GCD and impending victory
brazen rock
It's a good change.
lament belfry
It's not
You can only effectively use Slaughterhouse MS only in bursting not in a rotation you should be doing.
It does not refresh which is almost breaking the long term viability of fury
thorn herald
I mean
Maybe fury shouldn't do more damage be tankier and have a better ms than most melee?
Good change
lament belfry
Slaughterhouse is 40% MS
green wyvern
Sharpen is 40%
lament belfry
Compared too the other classes where their ms 50% all the time and it overpowers the slaughterhouse cutting it out in BG's
green wyvern
what
thorn herald
No one has 50% other than arms on sharpen
lament belfry
Sharpen is 40%
Sharpen Blade
Damage done by your next Mortal Strike increased by 15%, and causes the target to take 50% reduced healing for 6 sec.
green wyvern
I meant to say 50% sry
thorn herald
Everyone else's is nerfed to 25% unless a sin rogues shivs
lament belfry
Arms has a normal rotation of MS everytime, Fury has to rely on rampage in their normal rotation but it's capped at 40%. Also Rogues were nerfed as well
Their leech poison went poof
thorn herald
Your normal rotation is bloodthirst and rampage
green wyvern
What do you mean its capped at 40%
thorn herald
If you weren't keeping up slaughterhouse stop pressing slam
rigid hinge
I think that when you factor in the set bonuses of Arms and Fury, Fury still comes out ahead.
wheat jay
Slaughterhouse is 40% MS
Was*
green wyvern
and rogue shiv
wheat jay
brazen rock
They have sharpen blade that's 80% MS
It's good you have no idea what your talking about
rigid hinge
The 4 set from Fury seems really good
thorn herald
God fury warriors are some of the most literal what players on this earth
wheat jay
Wait 80%m
lament belfry
It's good you have no idea what your talking about
It's good you weren't keeping up with the convo
green wyvern
fury warriors too much braindam
wheat jay
What the actual fuck xD
brazen rock
It's good you weren't keeping up with the convo
Too busy at the gym
lament belfry
Then keep bench pressing bro lol
brazen rock
Post lifts or physique buddy
wheat jay
What is this convo i just joined
brazen rock
thorn herald
A fury warrior who doesn't get pvp modifiers
lament belfry
The 4 set from Fury seems really good
Is the 4 set same in pvp or PVE?
wheat jay
Yes
lament belfry
I honestly don't mind the 3% hit for MS, and stacks to 12 instead of 9 that was going to happened regardless. The only problem I have was the refresh rate not happening.
rigid hinge
From what I could see of people playing when they had the 4 set, Execute Proc was almost perma
lament belfry
Wouldn't that get tuned?
rigid hinge
No idea bro i just play the game
rigid hinge
Because of the 4 set I think you'll have solid uptime on 2 stacks of Slaughterhouse
wheat jay
It will smoothen the rotation tho
rigid hinge
And while 2 stacks is still not super strong its still like what 24% or something
lament belfry
I think the only big deal about all the tanking changes (Guardian druids needed that ftw)
rigid hinge
I'll be queueing kitty cleave so I can prob just afford to drop slaughterhouse all together
lament belfry
Was it happening before the season started
stuck mulch
guardian was fucking busted
lament belfry
Yeah Guardian was fully busted
stuck mulch
holy if that made it into the season
lament belfry
That was like one PVP change I agreed it was busted af
I watched one kill my entire BG group
💀
wheat jay
I think all changes this time were good
stuck mulch
they prob killed themself too with attacking him in bark etc
wheat jay
Not gonna lie
stuck mulch
lament belfry
they prob killed themself too with attacking him in bark etc
It was actually their PVP talent
stuck mulch
im making a MM alt for pvp aswell, gonna kill people with one channel of rapid fire
lament belfry
"Rage of the Sleeper" talent they had.
wheat jay
Inb4 it gets nerfed
stuck mulch
Inb4 it gets nerfed
1 week of fun is enough
wheat jay
Lmao
stuck mulch
i like it, sometimes it can pop off pretty nice
but if u wanna be a real gigachad you should run deathwish, stack it to max, jump into the enemies, pop everything delete them then get one tapped by a shadow priest
sonic dawn
What are y’all’s thoughts on arms for PvP?
stuck mulch
kamikaze warrior is gigachad, dont downplay the sacrifice of a great hero
agile birch
Hey is the honor gear only upgrading to level 5 because it's pre-season or is that how many upgrade ranks there will be?
scarlet barn
Pretty sure it wont go higher even when season starts
brazen rock
What are y’all’s thoughts on arms for PvP?
fine in 3s, dumpster in 2s/solo. Play with a partner that'll pull aggro off you like feral or ret.
fury prob better but only time will tell.
lament belfry
I think arms is a bit undertuned atm
brazen rock
dmg is more than fine, survive is lmao
lament belfry
yeah the survivability is pretty bad
brazen rock
tbh we might get a lol situation where arms/fury get st buffs (because theyre dumpster in raid sims) and that carries over into pvp for a few weeks
sonic dawn
Appreciate the info/ thoughts. That would be pretty sweet if they got some good ST buffs from the raids
brazen rock
It'ed be hilarious, 200k MSs are a possibility this season
lament belfry
Still kind of wish Execute was higher in damage but I'll take it with the set sparking it off constantly
It would feel pretty nice with the death sentence pvp talent
brazen rock
Still kind of wish Execute was higher in damage but I'll take it with the set sp...
arms doesn't get that set bonus.
thank fuck
lament belfry
💀
brazen rock
would be absolutely absurd
lament belfry
Yeah arms would destroy people with that
Actually looking at the set bonus for fury
IT's almost like you want to have some crit in the mix as well since execute crit is increased
brazen rock
fury is fine.
brazen rock
absurd self sustain, great damage
brazen rock
👍
mild thunder
Oh god, the fury mains are back to crying
mild thunder
Yes pls reroll
late nacelle
Cya
mild thunder
I wish I could recommend another 2 button spec for you to play
Maybe bm is about your speed
little lava
does it mean if im a orc, that i have 10% reduction to every cc and 20% to stun cuz im an orc?
tribal wedge
mild thunder
does it mean if im a orc, that i have 10% reduction to every cc and 20% to stun ...
Orc stocks are down
little lava
that orc is useless rn
crude bane
hey guyz how are you
just daily reminder if you use classic number as addon you cringe af
pure sierra
what enchants should i go for as fury
brazen rock
speed
zenith marlin
jees cant they release the season already
drowsy wasp
We B now?
sage raptor
that orc is useless rn
Wrong. Still has on use damage cd
jaunty niche
S1 SL he was completely wrong
sage raptor
Wrong. Still has on use damage cd
And 5% stun reduction is still better than some races
patent musk
He plays Boomi.... the nerve to make a tier list 😂
little lava
yes but im comparing best races
sage raptor
Well now the best races are situational
Panda bring super high on that list because of incap
patent musk
are you gonna be in the top 1% PvPers? then play what ever you want, dosnt matter
sage raptor
I'm still rocking undead but if we want to talk best races, it's probably panda.
You'll always need an extra cc, you won't always need a root removal.
random fractal
bro
what the fuck is monks mobility
hes teleporting around the map and then dashing across the map again
cant catch that shit lmao
and then teleports again
hard hound
Nothing new
random fractal
feels new
sage raptor
To think that warriors almost had death grip
random fractal
looks to be that
lament belfry
Gotcha
brazen rock
ignore the wowhead guide.
random fractal
you want crit
brazen rock
lmao its vers > haste > mast > crit
lament belfry
Doing a fuck ton of damage when enrage pops
brazen rock
but play how you want 
spice hornet
Fury dead everyone swap prot before Tuesday GGs bros I’m out back to dh
brazen rock
see the part where i said play how you want?
lament belfry
Fury dead everyone swap prot before Tuesday GGs bros I’m out back to dh
DH is far worst
They got hit the hardest out of all the nerfs that happened lol
brazen rock
about 95% of this channel will agree its the stat prio i mentioned
lament belfry
Their self heal is garbo
patent musk
DH is far worst
they deserve it, fucking DH´s
lament belfry
God
patent musk
They are literally still a S tier class even with the nerfs.
agreed
slim goblet
100% not s tier after those nerfs
sage raptor
Spoken like a true reroller
quick carbon
rogue already fondled dh before the nerfs
i think dh is still strong
just going to get murdered every stun dr
cloud oak
hey can someone help on how I order someone to craft the boots for me?
cinder thorn
Anyone got a link to the nerfs I can't find it
brazen rock
rogue already fondled dh before the nerfs
rogues fondle everyone its fine
how blizz wants it to be
quick carbon
thr were ssns whr it wasnt tho
sage raptor
Rogue has been top tier consistently for 18 years due to their toolkit.
It's like it was made for pvp.
quick carbon
ya its always been super good
warrior rogue and mage are almost always good
in every season
its kinda crazy
mild thunder
Rdruid has been having a very good run over the last few years as well
Mostly in 2s tbf
mild thunder
Feels like ages since hpal was top tier
scarlet barn
thr were ssns whr it wasnt tho
Luckily i did say every other
quick carbon
hpal was dominant endd of bfa andd beginning of sl
scarlet barn
🙃
brazen rock
rdruid usually has a middle-ish start to each expac.
mild thunder
I played fury for 2 days and it gave me early onset dementia
quick carbon
i hate rdruid metas so muuch xdd
mild thunder
I know jackshit about resto shaman and hpal going into DF
brazen rock
i log onto my rdruid and get a headache looking at my binds
its too fucking much shit
quick carbon
unironically the most toxic healer meta i ever played through
mild thunder
i hate rdruid metas so muuch xdd
Rdruid/outlaw
quick carbon
rdruid hunter iss always free in 2s no?
brazen rock
it was especially free before survi rework
mild thunder
Playing with a good rdruid is insanely fun tho
quick carbon
FROZEN AMMO SURVIVAL HUNTER
brazen rock
quick carbon
tbf id rather q into
frozen ammo hunter rdruid 2s
than dh mw 2s
zzzz
it made me into a post game whisperer
snow zephyr
anyone cna recommend a good arms pvp build, i struggle to find any
they are all outdated and stuff
mental violet
same, trying to find one, nothing from Magnusz ?
wooden grove
Idk bruv maybe look up some good arms warriors and check their talents
brazen rock
yeah hold up
ill post mine
BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDARikEJJJJKlkEAAAAQQkkAJAR0okISSoJRIBgDEJAAAAAAAAkQJJAAA
just does dam, more consistent than fishing for SD procs for giga MS crits
snow zephyr
thanks
wheat crane
BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDARikEJJJJKlkEAAAAQQkkAJAR0okISSoJRIBgDEJAAAAAAAAkQJJAA...
i was runnign somethign pretty similar
just had spear instead of roar
BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARikEJJ5AJKlkEAAAAQCRSiGJAR0oEJAaSESASSkAAAAAAAAQCkECAA
probably not super optimal
brazen rock
yeah spear is probably better but i cbf playing it
mental violet
i found MagnusZ spec: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/zuljin/magnusz
BcEAR5QSZgdnGefDo4ho9ZGXKDAJJSSkQIp1SSAAAAAJEJJQCQENkkAhmEhEAJRCAAAAAAAAJUSSIAA
mild thunder
I mean, he probably picks up wrecking/shatter when needed lol
patent musk
ill drop intervene or Rcry, i love me some Wrecking
wheat crane
i dont think u can
itd have to be 1 point from wild strikes
or 2 handed weapon spec
brazen rock
nah you can drop fast footwork for it
wheat crane
nah you can drop fast footwork for it
ahh
radiant patio
thought on the fury nerfs
radiant patio
but fury sshould be fine
ty ty
severe basin
big nerf no good fury bad
radiant patio
u prob wont everplay
thx
rapid pagoda
thorn herald
isnt test of might nerfed by 50% in pvp
near delta
prob better to q with another spec with ms
Fury/Arms new meta? 
quick carbon
isnt test of might nerfed by 50% in pvp
im not even sure, even if it wasnt id still go iftk
thorn herald
im not even sure, even if it wasnt id still go iftk
it is
i dumped like 4 ms's and the rest slams into it and got 9%
got 2 EB resets
didnt seem wroth to me but magnusz is a better warrior so who knows
ill just do iftk
icy spruce
lmapooo
dark sparrow
Thunder with arms might be good no? They have to focus ele and you can somewhat peal it + giga dam on burst
brazen rock
probably
if ele gets a chance to setup and cast, it globals people
even when trained they can still pump pretty good
dark sparrow
Lasso to keep them in spear and pop your dam, force trinkets and cds
Than just peel and setup ele to onebang them in bolt/fear
Some would even say that’s nuclear damage 
zenith marlin
meh wanna try some rogue pvp
but reeeely dont wanna do dragonflight questing again
sage raptor
spam dungeons
icy spruce
B for bitch :((( im sadge
icy spruce
so im not a b? 😄
thorn lichen
Who fucking cares about supatease
Lol, legit the most acurate tierlist out there
mild thunder
Your self-healing, sustain, damage and survivability are all still insane
thorn lichen
each seasone ach expansion this guy amthematically has the MOST accurate tierlist
thorn lichen
I dont like th guy neither but he is kinda an oracle of tierlists
waxen knot
Sv b tier?
void hamlet
hopefully we fly under the radar but we are in a good spot right now as fury
icy spruce
Sv b tier?
why you boutta reroll lol
thorn lichen
There’s no such thing as a “mathematically accurate” tier list lmao
u take his tierlists, then wait for release, and compare, give a punctuation, based of accuracy, and compare with other tierlists
thats mathematics
mild thunder
Sv is defs not b tier
waxen knot
why you boutta reroll lol
I’m a lock I’m just in here for shits, I just think b tier is low for sv it’s probably better
mild thunder
That’s… not mathematics.
thorn lichen
Okay, thats philosiphy, anyways this guy knows what he does
void hamlet
what pvp trinkets are you guys running in bgs
mild thunder
Even if you tried to draw 1:1 comparisons between a tier list and ladder representation, you aren’t going to accurately confirm tier list accuracy
icy spruce
what pvp trinkets are you guys running in bgs
mild thunder
Tier lists are almost always retarded, fury still strong blah blah blah
onyx vale
that's a troll tier list
outlaw in b
outlaw in the same tier as arms
jk jk i just love outlaw
it will beat sub i believe
steep inlet
Rofl this list
frank knoll
outlaw in the same tier as arms
Outlaw will be good esp with the set
severe basin
is warlock S
frank knoll
Aff and demo probably
Destro like A tier if they have hands
mild thunder
Ele B tier omegalul
frank knoll
If the Ele has hands probably not
gritty salmon
B for bitch :((( im sadge
Fdk same as fury warrior tells me this guy has zero clue
And haven’t played a single pvp game this expansion
When was this made
brazen rock
Okay, thats philosiphy, anyways this guy knows what he does
does supas nuts taste good or something?
mild thunder
does supas nuts taste good or something?
Mathematically his tier lists are the most accurate 🤓🤓🤓
frank knoll
They way Supatease says “specialization” instead of spec bugs me
mild thunder
Idk how people take him seriously, especially when he does shit like completely misread the arms tuning from the other week and not realise for ten minutes
Man doesn’t know that you can edit videos
mild thunder
Yikers
Ngl pretty much all wow content creators are shit, at least for pvp… there’s some solid pve guys for warrior thougj
Critcake is goated
wooden grove
If you know the basics watching Biz can be huge for PvE
undone pumice
idk how anyone can take tierlists srsly
wooden grove
How does woyer feel about kitty kat
radiant patio
kitty cleave gonna be good?
undone pumice
arms needs 2 healers (hybrid + healer) imo
radiant patio
w/b w fury
undone pumice
fury not really but enabling fury is like removing the speed limit and letting a ferrari go full speed
radiant patio
lmao nice
wooden grove
Pretty sure bloodbath is untouched though
undone pumice
per stack ms goes from 5 to 3, max stacks goes to 12, and they dont refresh eachother is that it?
wooden grove
Depends on how bad they are at patchnotes because they separated bloodbath and bloodthirst buffs into separate lines
wooden grove
Idk man read it
undone pumice
i readed it maybe im not a good readerer
opaque quarry
They increased it 1%
undone pumice
what
radiant patio
opaque quarry
Ye
opaque quarry
Wish they kept that
undone pumice
so now fury is better with more utility hyrbid like cat
wooden grove
But it also specifies BB AND BT in the buff but only BT in the nerf
wooden grove
So maybe 2 out of our 3 are still okay
undone pumice
edcept slaughterhouse
wooden grove
And it just makes execute higher prio than bt
undone pumice
thats fucky
humble heath
what build are yall using for fury rn?
opaque quarry
All the nerfs are meh, not too bad, the SH changes are annoying though
humble heath
thanks
undone pumice
the sh changes is just a bit shit but overall i thought fury would get hit harder
vapid rover
Still no survivability change for arms, like the spec is totaly fine 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
undone pumice
they want us to play with 2 healers now
go call up one of the 4 enha players worldwide and play turbo
shy tinsel
Do you guys know what weapon enchant we should use as fury warrior ?
Did find the answer by searching the Discord
wooden grove
True ret/arms probably
undone pumice
same as pve i think
wooden grove
Outside of wings ret just heals you 😂
undone pumice
ret arms, turbo, kitty pick one
wooden grove
Truuue
undone pumice
do you want to be racist, furry, or lore friendly
wooden grove
Ngl kitty regrowth procs are frequent af
frank knoll
Mud > anyone else <:wicked:937093876857045012>
the true king PvP content creator
undone pumice
xaryu jumpscare?
radiant patio
so if my homie is playing kitty and wants to go kitty cleave
i'll have more success as which spec
❤️
lunar stump
the true king PvP content creator
venruki more entertaining
undone pumice
whichever is stronger overall i think
zenith marlin
lmao
undone pumice
it doesnt rlly matter imo both can do stuff
zenith marlin
I just 1v1ed this full pvp gear DH without loosing any HP as prot warr
my guy did fkn 0 dmg
undone pumice
prot is tanky
undone pumice
also when are we nwrring guardian so it isnt giga flag carrier giga tank
frank knoll
Did that DH not press any of his buttons? Lol wtf
undone pumice
would feral/fury even work in 2s?
it did in SL but generqlly u want a heal as warr for 2s
zenith marlin
cant they just stomp feral in that comp
undone pumice
druids r pretty tanky and give you cancer if ur melee
trying to kill a druid through barskin, survical instincts, frenzied regenz hitting into thorns
not a good time
brazen rock
would feral/fury even work in 2s?
works great.
radiant patio
works great.
thanks
brazen rock
need good feral
radiant patio
i play wotlk a good amount i see alot of good ferals, same thing for retail?
mild thunder
the true king PvP content creator
I thought that was pika for a second, we were gonna have to have words
undone pumice
pika is fun to watch because you question your sanity every time
brazen rock
the diff between a bad/avg feral and a good feral is pretty substantial.
you wont get anywhere with a feral that doesen't know what to do when focused.
humble heath
for that build, we dont go spear of bastion for fury pvp?
undone pumice
nah
we fast enough if we use cds smart
can howl to catch up, charge 2x, leap, in bgs dragon fruit, interven sometimes even
mild thunder
you wont get anywhere with a feral that doesen't know what to do when focused.
Literally me on my feral
thorn lichen
Anyone playing PROT in pvp?
is kinda fun, but i cant get to find the proper talents
any insights?
icy spruce
pins
thorn lichen
true sorry
brazen rock
Anyone playing PROT in pvp?
no.
vapid rover
And any good talent for arm ? The pined one is still avaible ?
undone pumice
So many noobs in comments. Supa tease probably always has the most accurate tier lists and some of the best understanding of meta and comps. He is always putting out the highest quality ideas about pvp in general in my opinion, unlike many other content creators, i feel like supa has a good understanding of every single class and spec because he tests everything, not just his main .
severe basin
Anyone playing PROT in pvp?
not a great choice all tank specs are getting (rightfully) nerfed in pvp
severe basin
So many noobs in comments. Supa tease probably always has the most accurate tier...
kappa
frank knoll
So many noobs in comments. Supa tease probably always has the most accurate tier lists and some of the best understanding of meta and comps. He is always putting out the highest quality ideas about pvp in general in my opinion, unlike many other content creators, i feel like supa has a good understanding of every single class and spec because he tests everything, not just his main .
icy spruce
near delta
So many noobs in comments. Supa tease probably always has the most accurate tier lists and some of the best understanding of meta and comps. He is always putting out the highest quality ideas about pvp in general in my opinion, unlike many other content creators, i feel like supa has a good understanding of every single class and spec because he tests everything, not just his main .
brazen rock
So many noobs in comments. Supa tease probably always has the most accurate tier lists and some of the best understanding of meta and comps. He is always putting out the highest quality ideas about pvp in general in my opinion, unlike many other content creators, i feel like supa has a good understanding of every single class and spec because he tests everything, not just his main .
mild thunder
So many noobs in comments. Supa tease probably always has the most accurate tier lists and some of the best understanding of meta and comps. He is always putting out the highest quality ideas about pvp in general in my opinion, unlike many other content creators, i feel like supa has a good understanding of every single class and spec because he tests everything, not just his main .
wheat jay
Lmao
severe basin
So many noobs in comments. Supa tease probably always has the most accurate tier lists and some of the best understanding of meta and comps. He is always putting out the highest quality ideas about pvp in general in my opinion, unlike many other content creators, i feel like supa has a good understanding of every single class and spec because he tests everything, not just his main .
mild thunder
Remember guys, it’s mathematically and philosophically accurate
uneven cosmos
So many noobs in comments. Supa tease probably always has the most accurate tier lists and some of the best understanding of meta and comps. He is always putting out the highest quality ideas about pvp in general in my opinion, unlike many other content creators, i feel like supa has a good understanding of every single class and spec because he tests everything, not just his main .
zenith marlin
lmao got the tour of duty achi*
tbf Rojinx instanced pvp casuals are all noobs in pvp
real pvp is in open world
icy spruce
whoso tryna do a full warrior bg
undone pumice
real pvp is ganking lvl 3s in northshire
mild thunder
Real pvp is camping retard pve players outside of m+ dungeons
undone pumice
bright flume
hey guys whats your thoughts on which conquest pieces to buy first?
sharp meteor
weapon
unless u chillin and not pushin early
then give it 2-3 vaults to hope for rng
weighing if you wanna be bis faster or have more immediate fun
bright flume
yeh bis fastre
ill go both weapons
then rings and neck?
or main armour pieces chest legs
sharp meteor
in terms of output main wep is best
bright flume
heard multiple views of it
bright flume
cool
sharp meteor
like there's some thought process behind it but the season will be relatively long
bright flume
thankyou ill do that then
sharp meteor
and you'll be bis regardless of vault months before it ends
bright flume
gotcha
sharp meteor
but in general wep then non-medallion trinket or big pieces is nice for the present
waiting a few weeks without spending conq is what i do on alts
to avoid overlap, maybe rng a wep, etc
near delta
Are they going to be doing 800 conq first cap again?
copper hare
Are they going to be doing 800 conq first cap again?
they started with 1000 in s3 and s4 or
They might keep that
near delta
Ah right. Yeah thats what I'm hoping
copper hare
getting 2h second id is nice
But luckily the ilvl this time is minor and not 50 ilvl like in SL lol
mild thunder
SL honour gear 
copper hare
I remember first SL season full mythic 0 gear and 233 weapon was like a 60 ilvl gap or smth like that
brazen rock
Yeah it was fun going into second week
who got weapon in vault and who didnt
the diff between an arms war in s1 SL with wep and without was insane
tall compass
hey what spec whould ppl recomend for pvp atm arms or fury?
bright flume
fury
tall compass
ok thanks:)
bright flume
its really strong and im enjoying playing it bit of a nerf coming on reset but will still be good
tall compass
cool got any recomended talent builds?
mild thunder
Check pins
undone pumice
If there are millions of arms warriors on the ladder I am one of them. If the ladder has ten arms warriors I am one of them. If there is only one arms warrior then that is me. If there are no arms warriors, that means I am no more on the Earth. If the world is against arms warrior, I am against the world.
mild thunder
If there are millions of arms warriors on the ladder I am one of them. If the ladder has ten arms warriors I am one of them. If there is only one arms warrior then that is me. If there are no arms warriors, that means I am no more on the Earth. If the world is against arms warrior, I am against the world.
tall compass
Check pins
ty
undone pumice
If there are millions of cuck warriors on the ladder @mild thunder is one of them. If the ladder has ten cuck warriors @mild thunder is one of them. If there is only one cuck warrior then that is @mild thunder . If there are no cuck warriors, that means @mild thunder is no more on the Earth. If the world is against cuck warrior, @mild thunder is against the world.
undone pumice
digging up moldy pasta
near delta
God arms feels so good right now other than the whole getting rekt thing
wheat crane
God arms feels so good right now other than the whole getting rekt thing <:sadge...
Lmfao kinda a big part of it
worn yoke
I feel like arms is just a couple of minor tweaks away from being very good. If they made D stance 20/20 or something that might be enough
mild thunder
finite fox
Any meta predictions with the recent changes
I’m not pvping warrior I’m still playing dh cuz broken and fun
mild thunder
Check supatease tier list for accurate predictions
finite fox
I pve war and pvp dh
mild thunder
No respecto
finite fox
spice hornet
anyone else delete their warrior and go back to sub rogue after the furry nerfs? fuck warrio
finite fox
The fury nerf is kinda wild
mild thunder
Average fury main
finite fox
Imagine having a mortal wound effect that can’t be maintained the entire fight but everyone else that has one can lolol
copper hare
Can I get elite set from solo shuffle or do I have to blast 2s/3s first day
mild thunder
No elite set from ss
mild thunder
Selling carries as arms
brazen rock
spice hornet
do-able but really annoying
then you run into WW boosters or prot paladin shit
sub rogues
occasional ret paladins
willow panther
near delta
Check supatease tier list for accurate predictions <:okayge:917646812519739433> ...
Supatease has the most accurate and least clickbait tier lists of all time.
mild thunder
So many noobs in comments. Supa tease probably always has the most accurate tier lists and some of the best understanding of meta and comps. He is always putting out the highest quality ideas about pvp in general in my opinion, unlike many other content creators, i feel like supa has a good understanding of every single class and spec because he tests everything, not just his main .
near delta
do-able but really annoying
Gonna have to be a real badass to carry some terrible healer when everyone has equalized gear
spice hornet
ya im banking on giga inflation
mild thunder
Just kill the enemy /s
Rating probably won’t be inflated with ss stealing arena players
spice hornet
praying SS just increases participation in real arena since some people may enjhoy shuffle and want to try a real comp or w/e idk
mild thunder
Yeaaaaa massively doubt that
copper hare
gonna be the same in 2s and 3s, maybe even more since you don't have to farm anymore and they actually tune stuff now
mild thunder
It means lfg will die, which will destroy new participation for arenas
sharp meteor
3s gonna deflate because all the solo players just do shuffle instead of lfg
no reason to play sub glad 3s
mild thunder
True
sharp meteor
i don't know a single person that's dropping 3v3 for shuffle
mild thunder
You still need lower rated/worse players to have a healthy arena competition
sharp meteor
df 3v3 might be like sl 3v3 in that the lower end just falls the fuck off
copper hare
specially the 1.8-2.1 range is toxic as fuck with people leaving after every lose because they think they're superstars
unplayable
sharp meteor
yeah
join some 2k group in lfg, win 3 games, lose 1 because they int opener, group explodes
idk how they function
mild thunder
idk how they function
They don’t
sharp meteor
i lfg'd an alt warr to duelist 2s every season of sl
and each time i see the same 1500-1800 healers
who'd decline my app because warr bad or my gear is low
mild thunder
Meanwhile they have 1300 games this season with a 46% WR
sharp meteor
half a decade of 50-50ing games at 1600 while being picky about teammates 
mild thunder
Dps aren’t much better
My healer always tells me about the horrible lfg demon hunters he used to get
sharp meteor
I've even seen some of them lamenting in the various class cords or official forums about not being able to find a team or "good temmates"
sharp meteor
My healer always tells me about the horrible lfg demon hunters he used to get
yeah healing lfg havocs was like
they'd just run at thing and mash 123 then trinket off cd
had to play around that best you can
because when they die even if they trinketed sap they'll blame you
mild thunder
run behind pillar and scream at why they’re not getting healed
mild thunder
Nope, it does nothing
zenith marlin
bruh
late nacelle
or something
late nacelle
like 1 extra tick
zenith marlin
this dude just got slapped with 20 stacks
copper hare
was he level 40 or how did you live this long
zenith marlin
he was a resto druid
vale ibex
So many think fury is dead? What do people recommend then? Ima wait it out and see ofc, but curious of the alternative
late nacelle
fatal mark is actually
insane
u what?
guaranteed oneshot someone when they hit 30%
unless they immune it
copper hare
So many think fury is dead? What do people recommend then? Ima wait it out and s...
spec is far from dead lol
wheat crane
kinda why i like the idea of shuffle
you cant hide behind "bad teammates"
gonna make alot of ppl face facts
might make lfg less toxic
sharp meteor
gonna make alot of ppl face facts
lol no it won't
hardstucks are professional copers
severe skiff
I just keep getting unfair matchups, it's not my fault
copper hare
my dolphin was sick
icy spruce
I lowkey wanna make a discord and call it pvp tinder or some shit and find people partners
vale ibex
spec is far from dead lol
Awesome!
sharp meteor
I lowkey wanna make a discord and call it pvp tinder or some shit and find peopl...
psure people tried and it's just glorified lfg
where everybody looks for bigger partners
mild thunder
I lowkey wanna make a discord and call it pvp tinder or some shit and find peopl...
warroid or whatever his name was tried that in SL
it uhhh, it didnt last long lol
mild thunder
I just keep getting unfair matchups, it's not my fault
average fury main
severe skiff
More like "I'm actually 2700+ but blizzard nerfed my spec into F tier"
mild thunder
gonna be every dh main that got 2000+ in pre-patch solo shuffle
wheat crane
hardstucks are professional copers
True
wheat crane
<:keks:936231610850897992>
I stand corrected you said rdruid was alot of buttons yesterday right?
Just logged on my feral/resto
They added a FUCKTON to resto lol
wooden grove
ngl warrior can be played with one action bar
need at least three for any druid spec except maybe guardian
sharp meteor
just max range pve heal a cleave
druids who go in for rakes and clones are throwing the game
stuck root
Why resto get ice block now lol
brazen rock
I stand corrected you said rdruid was alot of buttons yesterday right?
It's been a mess forever dude
wheat crane
Im just tryina pillar heal and not have a panic attack when im healing 3s man
brazen rock
Between focus macros, party 1 2 3 macros, and arena 1 2 3 macros? Have fun
wheat crane
I just switched everything to help/harm mouseovers
brazen rock
I'll play prevoker, have 1/4th the binds, and do just as well if not better.
wheat crane
Im seriously debating it for my 1 healer alt
Might just play prevoker and warrior
Im too washed to play affi n rdruid at this point
Actually affis really not that bad if you dont take haunt
Still f it
brazen rock
just max range pve heal a cleave
This works until you play against the rdruid gigachad that pve heals a cleave WHILE getting aggressive clones, meld resets, and rake stuns
Oh yeah don't forget you have to play night elf to win vs other druids in clone offs.
wheat crane
Yea f that
Leave it feral lmao
Just play some chill feral spriest if i get the druid itch
sharp meteor
This works until you play against the rdruid gigachad that pve heals a cleave WH...
getting aggressive is throwing the game
wheat crane
Multidot run away toss a clone spriest does the rest
brazen rock
I'm biased but imo rdruid is "the" highest skill ceiling spec by a big margin.
wheat crane
Rdruid definitely
sharp meteor
ya and every rdruid tries to do too much
wheat crane
Feral/boomie eh
lunar stump
ya and every rdruid tries to do too much
so true hahaha
brazen rock
ya and every rdruid tries to do too much
In mop/wod you had to. I barely played SL and quit BFA halfway through s1
lunar stump
ya and every rdruid tries to do too much
getting themselves or their team mates killed by doing unnecessary clones
sharp meteor
In mop/wod you had to. I barely played SL and quit BFA halfway through s1
mop was ten fucking years ago man
wheat crane
Then i get dunked on cuz im a shitter on it
brazen rock
mop was ten fucking years ago man
It's my frame of reference besides getting carried by my buddies playing ret/arms in SL
lunar stump
Sitting back and pve healing when you have every tool in the book is ass
rdruid don’t need to sit back as much anymore since they have talents that increase the range of their leaps & clones
lunar stump
3 buttons fly around
at least dh can die now
wheat crane
They might actually be more annoying tho
Fodder getting gutted means theyll probably swap to decree
For even more dmg
lunar stump
They might actually be more annoying tho
yummy pessimism
some dh are already playin decree & it’s manageable
wheat crane
Nice
icy spruce
lunar stump
at least supa’s tier lists are more accurate than venruki’s
mild thunder
flat panther
Which weapons for pvp should i pick up as a fury?
lean burrow
haste vers twohanders
flat panther
Isn't verse and haste 4/5 on the stat priority?
flat panther
Ah fucking fuck
mild thunder
its vers > haste > crit=mastery
flat panther
I was looking at pve
mild thunder
crit overtakes mastery if you have ely might + bt build
flat panther
Suuper confused on why wowhead says we should prioritize verse and haste, yet they have haste at 4
jovial meteor
Slaughter house nerfs really that bad?
flat panther
From what ive heard, slaughterhouse isnt even worth taking anymore
flat panther
Nothing kekw
Another question about this pvp gear
Looking at the upgrades, the pvp item level doesn't increase
Does upgrade pvp gear only affect the pve ilvl?
carmine nimbus
What's go to spec for pvp? Fury?
mild thunder
Suuper confused on why wowhead says we should prioritize verse and haste, yet th...
wowhead pvp guides are super dated
usually never good place for pvp tbh
mild thunder
Slaughter house nerfs really that bad?
its fine... you can still get the 36% debuff most of the time during reck, you'll just have to rebuild stacks every 9 sec
and if you notice its not working well, just play with a dh, ww or any other spec with a debuff
mild thunder
Does upgrade pvp gear only affect the pve ilvl?
yes
mild thunder
What's go to spec for pvp? Fury?
fury if you're allergic to chromosomes, arms if you're a gigachad
kinda hard to say when season hasn't started, but fury will probably be a fair bit better... way tankier, great self-healing, good sustained damage and burst with the annihilator build
arms does good damage and dbs feels really nice against melee, but it's squishy af and extra squishy against casters
carmine nimbus
I got glad s1 as arms so always a soft spot there heh
But haven't played/pvped since wotlk
flat tide
What class is warrior worst against?
teal tundra
which spec is best in skirmishes rn?
mild thunder
which spec is best in skirmishes rn?
Which warrior spec, or which spec overall?
teal tundra
and bgs?
sly furnace