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quick carbon
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ya crit is too valuable

mild thunder
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mastery > haste > crit > vers

quick carbon
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You wouldn’t do damage without it

summer tiger
quick carbon
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HES TROLLING

summer tiger
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no

gloomy beacon
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Lol so troll

quick carbon
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DONT LISTEN TO HIM

mild thunder
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no im sorry, i should stop hahahaaa

gloomy beacon
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Obv avoidance is bis

steep inlet
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Apparently

fickle forge
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Imagine not stacking Leech

summer tiger
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giga deep wounds rend mastery build

quick carbon
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yo do you guys remember multistrike in wod

summer tiger
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BiS ofc

quick carbon
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Getting a multistrike execute

mild thunder
steep inlet
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DJ Rio multi r1 made a brutal arms build

quick carbon
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Lord have mercy

steep inlet
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Very brutal

quick carbon
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he’s a bleed build enjoyer

steep inlet
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They did 3v3 tests with only r1

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And he massacred

mild thunder
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unironically arms bleed is a fun playstyle

steep inlet
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Might be cool

quick carbon
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if your healer can keep you alive, arms is going to dominate cleave mirrors damage wise

fickle forge
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Yes, I, too, enjoyed BFA

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🙃

steep inlet
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yikes

summer tiger
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Bfa warrior yikes

mild thunder
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my hottest take

quick carbon
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I had a full mastery set in bfa s4

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it actually pumped

spark zenith
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Bleeds are for furries not furys

quick carbon
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WITH THE MASTERY AMPS

summer tiger
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Yeah but back then deep wounds was top dam in ur details

quick carbon
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you hit sweeping strikes off cd

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If you’re cleaving

fickle forge
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No

summer tiger
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actuall dogwater expac for arms I s2g

spark zenith
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If I wanted bleeds I'd play a rogue or feral

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Fuck bleeds

quick carbon
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when you see sweeping strikes is off cd

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You put it back on cd

mild thunder
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okay but

summer tiger
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you press it

mild thunder
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bleed builds

quick carbon
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Similar to mortal strike

mild thunder
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but with sks

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imagine if deep wounds actually did meaningful damage still

quick carbon
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There are times where I’ll solo 2 people in a spear with sweeping strikes and every cd, it’s Soooo satisfying

fickle forge
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I wouldn't say on CD, but you should definitely make the most of your Sweeps

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Sweeping is actually the biggest dmg increase in your kit

quick carbon
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If you’re in a multi target situation

mild thunder
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for now... will reevaluate when we get tier

quick carbon
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Hit it off cd

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unless u don’t want to break cc with it

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But let’s be honest

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How many of you

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Aren’t playing some dumb cleave

mild thunder
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who the FUCK cares asbout breaking cc

quick carbon
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With no care about cc

mild thunder
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we're warriors

quick carbon
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At all

mild thunder
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no cringe soft cc for us

fickle forge
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Difference between good and bad arms warrs when it comes to pressure is Sweeping Strikes optimisation

quick carbon
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another tip is

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When you sharpen someone

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Don’t hit mortal strike until sharpen expires

summer tiger
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Idk if warrior is even good in a non cleave comp rn, I don't see WMP being good

quick carbon
mild thunder
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imagine not holding mages hostage and forcing them to play WMP

summer tiger
fickle forge
quick carbon
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I think it’s cuz

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Sharpen overrides regular ms

fickle forge
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But who am I kidding, I'll be stuck doing KFC with @wheat jay anyway

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😎 👍

quick carbon
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because it’s the stronger ms

summer tiger
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yeah it's still shit tho

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ngl

fickle forge
summer tiger
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should just apply both debuffs and only take the sharpen but w/e

quick carbon
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I hope the bleed build becomes super god tier

raw summit
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🫵😔

quick carbon
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BRING BACK UA WLS

fickle forge
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Also why you can't stack slaughter on targets with MS

mint tinsel
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Me and my buddy will be doing kfc as he is a hunter main so city boys up

quick carbon
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LF WLS

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MORE THAN EVER

mild thunder
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anything is better than warr/ret

summer tiger
mild thunder
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omg so fun we press banner/wings teehee

quick carbon
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I was a tsg chad in shadowlands getting farmed by ret warrior

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Wbu

mild thunder
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i was a kitty cleave chad

quick carbon
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So sus

mild thunder
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mud clone ftw

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tbf season 1 i played any fucking comp that was in lfg

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but warr/spri was most fun

quick carbon
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I liked war mage the most in s1

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Cuz it was GIGA BUSTED

summer tiger
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Warr + caster is always more fun than cleaves imo

mild thunder
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i wish i played my ww in s1 for ww/mage

quick carbon
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depends on the cleave imo

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I really really enjoy tsg

mild thunder
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okay, it needs to be said

summer tiger
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Tsg is my fav ones

mild thunder
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tsg is the most boring fucking comp

summer tiger
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one *

mild thunder
quick carbon
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tsg is alpha as fuckk

fickle forge
summer tiger
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Bro it's just braindead pump It's nice for chill games tbh

fickle forge
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I dread how many would ask that if all MS effects were shown as debuffs

summer tiger
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Eh

quick carbon
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I had a lot fun qing frost and unholy tsg setting up massive spear chill streaks as frost tsg was so satisfying

mild thunder
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implement this asap

quick carbon
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And apoc sharpening people as unholy tsg with giga interrupts for casters was also super fun

fickle forge
steep inlet
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lal

quick carbon
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wot

mild thunder
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OF COURSE IT WAS A FURY MAIN

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NO SHOCK

fickle forge
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Would you believe his name even had 'Fury' in it?

mint tinsel
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I would not believe that

mild thunder
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fury mains would still defend it

summer tiger
quick carbon
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This was actual photo of the discord when the nerfs for fury dropped

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No cap

summer tiger
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we all knew it was coming it's w/e

mild thunder
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ive never had as much fun as reading this disc during the nerf aftermath

wheat jay
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I'm not letting go of a glad warr

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That's used to my autistic gameplay

fickle forge
quick carbon
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glad warriors are a dime a dozen after shadowlands baby

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half of this discord probably got gladiator in sl

fickle forge
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I'm still recovering from the 2.4k 2s arms+Hpala push last season

quick carbon
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warrior was that broken the entire expansion

fickle forge
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So many fucking outlaws

mild thunder
fickle forge
jaunty niche
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You guys are way over exaggerating, Fury's fine. Our damage is untouched and will continue to scale as the expansion goes. Our MS is now inline with other classes. Our self-healing is not as OP as it was but still pretty good.

steep inlet
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first glad in BC 😎

quick carbon
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WHEN I GOT BACK FROM DEPLOYMENT MID S3 AND MET MY FIRST CDR OUTLAW ROGUE I LITERALLY UNINSTALLED LMFAOOOOO

mild thunder
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get em boys

quick carbon
mild thunder
jaunty niche
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wishful arms mains? 🙂

quick carbon
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arms chads

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You mean

jaunty niche
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Fury still > arms

quick carbon
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I was prepared to play arms before the buffs to it against all odds

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It’s too early to tell what’s better

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Season hasn’t even started

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clapper said arms is probably going to be better so who knows

mild thunder
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you know what i want back

quick carbon
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just a matter of finding out

mild thunder
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wod glad stance

mild thunder
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it was a guilty pleasure

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prot was fun back then copium

quick carbon
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u sound like a closet fury player rn

mild thunder
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I TAKE IT BACK

green wyvern
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as a healer you can just track slaughterhouse stacks and dump your heals when it drops

quick carbon
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YEAH

mild thunder
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🙏

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forgive me

quick carbon
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you know what arms has that fury will never even begin to comprehend?

green wyvern
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slaughterhouse garbo now

quick carbon
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Swag.

mild thunder
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a 3rd keybind?

raw summit
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💀💀💀

quick carbon
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ARMS JUST HAS SAUCE

mild thunder
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deep wounds sauce

quick carbon
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IT HAS THAT CHEMICAL X

mild thunder
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DF fury could've been fun too if they had kept rend as fury

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imagine not just spamming rampage

quick carbon
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you ever use the old colossus smash and execute sound addons boys?

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Holy Fuckkk it’s so nice

mild thunder
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imagine not having headless horseman voicelines macroed to every ability

quick carbon
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u know what genuinely makes me absolutely livid

lean burrow
quick carbon
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When dks macro /yell GET OVER HERE

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With death grip

lean burrow
north thicket
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Both arms and fury has the sauce, a difference sauce for any of them, and both has to be competitive

lean burrow
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hpal in priest season keks

quick carbon
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fury has that expired a1 steak sauce

mild thunder
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this is a dirty admission, but
when i first switched to feral i had /y IT'S MORBIN TIME! macroed to berserk

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my first account silence was for spamming it in oribos

quaint snow
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rip my fury

quick carbon
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my first account silence was for whispering dh mw players in 2s in legion

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They deserved it tho

mild thunder
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GIGACHAD

quick carbon
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They qued mw dh in 2s

lean burrow
quick carbon
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AND LOST

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LMAOLNAOLMAO

mild thunder
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got a little carried away, i gotta admit xD

quick carbon
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I have like 3 suspensions over my warriors names over the years

lean burrow
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i heard of people getting silence for "interrupted x" addons

quick carbon
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@latent arrow tommorow

mild thunder
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i tried to level a mage named Combussy in SL and didnt get past lvl 3 sadge

quick carbon
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I got banned first for the name retardbawby

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Second time was for gaywarrior

muted surge
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@latent arrow

quick carbon
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The third time was for a week and it was because I was named betacuck

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Got banned mid 3s game too lmao

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Hate to see it

mild thunder
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perfect name for a fury alt

quick carbon
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I think my bis warrior name of all time

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Was alphaprimate

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Absolute prime warrior name

mild thunder
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pretty based, pretty based

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i was Swoleosis for a while

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liked that one

quick carbon
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the bitches didn’t 💀

mild thunder
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friendly fire enabled

quick carbon
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LOL

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do you remember when condoom took over

mild thunder
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arms > bitches

quick carbon
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Dark days

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Dark days indeed

mild thunder
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based name tho

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should i switch to Gymli if i reroll dwarf

quick carbon
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I once was female petite belf warrior

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Misskickbelf back in legion

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Beautiful

mild thunder
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beautiful

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best version of lukeypookey

quick carbon
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Triple belf cleaves

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Triple dr stun

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Triple dr belf silence

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Onto ur rsham

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HE NEVER STOOD A CHANCE

mild thunder
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bring back belf silence

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and old emfh

tawny river
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what a good day it is

mild thunder
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i want human to be beyond busted again

tawny river
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waking up seeing all the DH tears

mild thunder
quick carbon
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The fury tears are also quite delicious

tawny river
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i don't mind those either @mild thunder

mild thunder
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i feel sorry for anyone that missed out on the madness this morninmg

quick carbon
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the most scrumptious of tears are the bear Druid tears

tawny river
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arms ftw

quick carbon
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BUT ALSO DELECTABLE WERE THE DK TEARS LAST WEEK BOY WERE THEY FLOWING

mild thunder
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to be fairrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, some of the dk nerfs were a little harsh

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but overall they were retarded

quick carbon
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the death strike ones were

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Other nerfs were fine

mild thunder
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abom limb nerf made me very happy

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fuck that abiliuty

quick carbon
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OKAY I GOTTA GO TO BED ITS 4 AM

native yarrow
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guys i might be being dumb but these nerfs to slaughterhouse, i cant find that talen/spell or effct. where is it?

summer tiger
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dk deathstrike got overnerfed cause of a bug

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is the best part

summer tiger
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will of the necropolis DR counted as absorb, and absorbs counted towards deathstrike healing = bloated healing numbers when low hp

summer tiger
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also goes for spellwarding / ams ofc

mild thunder
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bring back second wind blizz plsssssss

summer tiger
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back when warrior was chad in duels

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arms that is

mild thunder
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anyone have the screenshot of the wowhead commenter saying second wind is OP?

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i cbf finding it

summer tiger
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I mean it was kinda strong ngl, although it wasn't what made warrior good

mild thunder
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no i nea

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mean

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current second wind

summer tiger
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oh

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LMAO

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never seen that one

mild thunder
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someone posted it this morning

native yarrow
mild thunder
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i'll look for it... shits fucking hilarious

mild thunder
native yarrow
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wound

mild thunder
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@summer tiger

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found it

summer tiger
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kekw

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PvE player

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makes sense

mild thunder
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room temp IQ

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actually that might be a compliment

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celsius room temp IQ

wooden grove
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gushing wound did less healing than my 5% leech

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lol

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but the slaughterhouse changes suck

summer tiger
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good, fury shouldn't have better MS than arms anyways 🤷‍♂️

mild thunder
wooden grove
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yeah it should've stayed the same mechanically and just been 25%

summer tiger
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Imagine playing the spec that's been known for it's MS forever and having the other spec just legit have a better one

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out of nowhere

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can't be retail

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nope

mild thunder
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i blame bajheera

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he was pushing for fury buffs in SL way too hard

wooden grove
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i mean sharpen blade exists

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50% even if only for 6 sec is still huge for securing kills

mild thunder
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yea but sharpen was shit comparted to slaughter

crystal harbor
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Which trinkets we going for if Human?

mild thunder
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sharpen is exactly how a high MW effect should work

crystal harbor
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Still Medallion + on use?

jaunty niche
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I like the fantasy, Fury is good damage. good healing, small MS - the wrecking ball. Arms is high burst, high MS, the executor.

mild thunder
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its up to you

crystal harbor
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Choices

mild thunder
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human is completely flexible depending on what you're versing/playing

summer tiger
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Pmuch yeah, if you're only afraid of stuns / fears you can safely take double dps trink

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but even then normal trink is still good

mild thunder
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playing w/o normal trink feels like shit anytime you get disarmed omegalul

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its a troll

summer tiger
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Man don't start me on disarm / silence. I played wotlk classic for a while you can't trinket silence/disarm on there 💀

wooden grove
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no disarm match up no trink imo

mild thunder
wooden grove
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for humans

mild thunder
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nothing else really matters besides stuns tbh

summer tiger
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I mean for you maybe

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not for your teammates though

mild thunder
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who cares about teammates lol

summer tiger
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intervene is a thing

wooden grove
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you mean the bot healing me

summer tiger
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literally only reason I play warrior nowadays

mild thunder
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not without safeguard its not

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:)))

summer tiger
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xd

mild thunder
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safeguard/overwatch should be a choice node

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pls blizz

summer tiger
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tbh I think sharpen should be baseline

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feels like shit to be forced in to it always

mild thunder
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tbf all classes have mandatory pvp talents these days

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the problem with warr is that 98% of our pvp talents are completely shit

summer tiger
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Yeah I know but arms has so many good things it's just cringe to take sharpen all the time

mild thunder
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MnC should just be replaced after those SL nerfs

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and wtf is the point of SotC

summer tiger
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Like ngl duel is a good talent that you never take just cause you can't cuz of other ones

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if u think abt it

mild thunder
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fair, it does get under-used

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because most of the time disarm is better, and if its a caster they're gonna kill you anyway lol

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duel is extra useless when arms is the squishiest melee in the game now

summer tiger
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Yeah it's kinda cringe tbh

slim bay
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where do i find the pvp build?

mild thunder
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death sentence, demolition, MnC, SotC, rebound should all be changed/removed

summer tiger
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arms should be this tanky melee that gets kited but can stop allot of setups on his teammates imo but eh

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blizz is blizz

mild thunder
jaunty niche
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wish Arms had some form of healing...

summer tiger
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fuck no

mild thunder
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we have impending

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which is almost too much imo

summer tiger
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healers exist

mild thunder
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ignore pain > heals

summer tiger
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like idk if you knew but when you play arena

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there's a healer

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good info to know

mild thunder
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not if i play feral/arms 2s theres not

summer tiger
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I mean you'd play fury in that comp ngl

mild thunder
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mud acknowledged my 10% hp mortal strike heal idea to bring arms to fury level

green wyvern
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I think ret/warr will be very real with arms

mild thunder
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ret is swamp ass

green wyvern
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no

summer tiger
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I don't think it's that bad, it's just not SL levels of retarded

green wyvern
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ret is the only spec that got like 0 nerfs

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and it deals lots of damage

mild thunder
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tbf im pretty sure ret is kinda strong but hooooly its so fucking boring now

summer tiger
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idk my favorite is how some specs that seem a tad overtuned just get ignored cause they're not flashy and the casuals don't complain

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I s2g feral is super sleeper rn

mild thunder
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feral is probs the best melee now tbh

summer tiger
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yeah it's giga sleeper though, no one talks about it

wheat jay
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Every dps should have its healing gutted

mild thunder
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the only problems it has is cyclone being in a super fucked position on the tree

summer tiger
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although I think best melee goes to rogue

wheat jay
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That's what healers are for

mild thunder
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let arms have its 10% ms heal

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and after that, nerf dps healing

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also feral taking full swarm/bleed build + 1 min convoke in 2s is gonna be aidsss

wheat jay
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It is

mild thunder
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cant wait to survive a ff + swarm go to get hit with a maim convoke 20 sec later

wheat jay
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Good thing I shit on it as survival okayge

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Feign + ros + mending

mild thunder
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im pretty sure 99% of the playerbase has forgotten sv is a thing

lean island
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Fury dead class after slaughterhouse nerf?

mild thunder
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yes

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completely deaded

wheat jay
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Noone plays it, its op, doesnt get nerfed, I get easy glad

mild thunder
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new coordinated assasult is super fun tho

wheat jay
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It is xD

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Having 0 rng and fully controlled burst is amazing

mild thunder
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the last minute spearhead rework was kinda weird tho

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but i havent played it enough to know if it made sense

wheat jay
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After 3 seasons of flayed shot and 2 of tier set

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Its just a mobility skill

lean burrow
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giga gif

mild thunder
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mandatory mongoose bite is cringe tho

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feels like it works against the whole semi-ranged, occasional melee sv style

wheat jay
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I mean

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It should be mostly melee

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And occassional ranged

mild thunder
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true, just weird ig

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LPI should also probably be changed now since building it up kinda makes no sense

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build up LPI stacks > lose mongoose stacks 😐

wheat jay
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Lpi?

mild thunder
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latent poison blah blah bvlah

wheat jay
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Ohh

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Fuck that its just some bonus dmg

oblique mirage
mild thunder
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against lock/dh bedge

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i happy

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also, based UI... im sick to fucking death of watching my friends stream on discord with the most scuffed, overlapping elvUI boomer interface

oblique mirage
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elvui puke, my friend (Pikaboo sub) uses that LMAO

mild thunder
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ofc its a pikaboo sub

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i'll pray for his soul

oblique mirage
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imagine what he says to me everyday, that rogue has been dogshit these past 2 years. LUL while being 1200 cr

mild thunder
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average rogue main

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i bet he played outlaw

oblique mirage
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he played sub KEK, Shadowlands season 1 too. fuck those days

mild thunder
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fuck all of rogue

oblique mirage
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^

mild thunder
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im waiting for the main 11.0 feature to be removing rogue, dh and mage 🙂

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and IP ban all the players

oblique mirage
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i could die happy if i never had to play against rogue mage ever again

mild thunder
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try and mention to a r/m main that their comp is annoying or OP

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you'll get talked to death

oblique mirage
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yeah about how "difficult" their poly/cheap shot setup is to pull off

mild thunder
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rogue/mage players calling their comp high execution is the biggest fucking cope of my life

restive nimbus
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its harder than most 2s comps though, no?

oblique mirage
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no ive played the comp from both angles

mild thunder
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harder to verse dander

oblique mirage
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imo

quaint snow
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50k for the speed boots enchants (gold quality) ....... wtf

wooden grove
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well then go be a enchanter

sterile carbon
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Just get the silver surely

crude sentinel
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SP and warlocks dodging nerfs

weary quartz
steep inlet
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Watch Arms getting more and more praise

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It’s sleeper very good

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If played with an hybrid / other guy who is focused

crystal harbor
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any flag cap + barbarian + bounding stride + evoker CD reset

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is hilarious

lean burrow
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imagine if we kept triple leap

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12 leaps is flag to flag

green wyvern
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arms and ret are sleeper good

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people aren't expecting ret/warr

lean burrow
green wyvern
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full gas pedal agressive playstyle

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no cap

lean burrow
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dh andd demo are sleeper good

green wyvern
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warlock just took the biggest nerf

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warrior will shred through

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also arms deals with dh

lean burrow
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if only arms wasn't shred through by others

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good thing I got orc and human warriors

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orc can be stupid fury

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and human can be badass arms

green wyvern
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I think every melee is on arms level rn when it comes to survivability

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except feral and rogue

wooden grove
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an dh

mild thunder
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i... what

green wyvern
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dh survivability got heavily nerfed

wooden grove
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quit a lot of plate sheets of paper running around

mild thunder
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enh, dh, fury and arguably ret/dk are all tankier than arms

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dk defs tankier against casters

wooden grove
green wyvern
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decree got nerfed too

mild thunder
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decree didnt get nerfed, the CD's of all the sigil reducing talents got nerfed

green wyvern
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yes

mild thunder
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which most people werent even running for the decree builds i believe

wheat jay
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Was all soul healing nerfed

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Or just the demon one?

mild thunder
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all soul heals

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Consume Soul heal effect when consuming a Demon Soul reduced by 60% in PvP combat.
omega nerf

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fodder is a dead node now ngl

wheat jay
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Good

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Even after that nerf it will heal a good amount

mild thunder
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but, most dh's will probably just run a mastery build now and still do absurd sustain damage

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not with this too
Fodder to the Flame heal effect reduced by 40% in PvP combat.

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fodder is legit dead

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4 nerfs in 2 weeks just to fodder heal

brazen rock
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Play kittycleave and w key your way to glad

wheat jay
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Still a dmg buff

mild thunder
rapid pagoda
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to be fair, DH was a little nuts

mild thunder
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on raw damage im pretty sure elysian decree wins out

wooden grove
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well crushing blow builds beat annih ra in damage too

wheat jay
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Gotta play spear ravager okayge

mild thunder
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yea but anni healing isnt nerfed by 40% + 60%

rapid pagoda
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i just saw the fury sustain nerfs in pvp, how are we feeling about it?

wooden grove
#

ngl spear ravager in BGs isn't absolute ass

wooden grove
mild thunder
wooden grove
#

the slaughterhouse nerfs are rough

#

like gushing wounds heal pre nerf does less than 5% leech heals

rapid pagoda
mild thunder
#

fury still a solid A tier

#

more than likely

rapid pagoda
#

Think DH is with us now or still S?

mild thunder
#

dh definitely not S anymore

wheat jay
#

I'm actually surprised blizz managed to nerf something that's overtuned for once

#

Unlike shit noone plays

mild thunder
#

dh probably a mid A tier

brazen rock
#

Fury is beyond fine. Feral and SP are next lul

green wyvern
#

slaughterhouse was busted and got nerfed pretty hard

#

which is good

mild thunder
#

feral isnt gonna get nerfed... its strong but its not OP

wheat jay
#

Pretty much ye

rapid pagoda
#

i enjoy the sustain we do have, I have been able to keep up with ferals so far.

mild thunder
#

if feral gets nerfed, i'll be shockered

rapid pagoda
#

I am just glad bears got it

mild thunder
#

fuck tanks

#

this is an anti-tank discord

rapid pagoda
#

bears have been stupid

mild thunder
#

"ah yes, dont mind if i do do top damage, whilst being obnoxiously unkillable"

rapid pagoda
#

rage of the sleeper takes allot of skill

mild thunder
#

"what!!!???? bear got nerfs????? clearly blizzard hates tank players and we should have to pay a lower sub fee!"

rapid pagoda
#

from a PVE standpoint, thee tank nerfs were dumb. 10 percent across the board based on..... Mythic zero feedback?

mild thunder
#

even from PvE they were needed

#

tanks were soloing dungeons... healers shouldnt be able to just afk and ignore tanks, its stupid

#

i dont think the tank i do dungeons with has had to learn a single mechanic yet

rapid pagoda
#

we will see, they did this in SL and had to walk it back

brazen rock
#

Prot war only got 5% lul

#

Nobody uses dstance

mild thunder
#

why use d-stance when tanks can do damage okayge

rapid pagoda
#

anyone got a good updated set of weak auras?

mild thunder
#

i do, but im banned Pepexecute

#

remind me on tuesday HAHA

warm cargo
#

annihilation or raging blow build for pvp?

mild thunder
#

nah anni still better, but rb a lot more competitive with these nerfs

#

if you're absolutely not going to die and arent going to be the target, rb probs better

north thicket
mild thunder
#

what

north thicket
#

Was quoting 'Prot war only got 5% lul'

neat hound
#

Yeah 'cause no one was using Dstance

mild thunder
#

it did only get 5% this week

north thicket
#

Vanguard no longer reduces damage taken (was 5% damage reduction).

brazen rock
#

What the fuck are you @ing me for lmao

neat hound
#

so 5% nerf

raw summit
north thicket
#

No one is using Dstance in M0

mild thunder
#

why use Dstance when i can do damage

raw summit
#

People tanked 32s in S4 in battle stance on prot

neat hound
#

chad

#

or monke

mild thunder
#

chadke

neat hound
#

me like

brazen rock
north thicket
#

Let

#

Let's see how it rolls in s1

brazen rock
#

It's a 5% nerf to any good prot war. It's a 10% nerf to the morons that sit in def stance 24/7

neat hound
#

ayo

#

I sometimes forget okay?

mild thunder
#

you have to be pre shit to just sit Dstance

north thicket
#

they weren't using def stance because they were overtuned in Beta

brazen rock
#

Yup let's see how it rolls and don't @ me again telling me to read all the notes.

neat hound
#

prot is absolutely busted wdym

mild thunder
#

they still are super strong

north thicket
#

You are spreading misinformation

#

thats why I @ you

brazen rock
#

I'm not actually.

mild thunder
#

ooooh, misinformation accusation

brazen rock
#

But you do you boo.

mild thunder
north thicket
#

Your statement is conditional on the assumption that no one uses Def stance

neat hound
#

Technically a 10%, but considering no one with a functioning brain was using YET the Dstance as it wasn't needed at all, you won't feel it

brazen rock
#

And my assumption is correct because we don't outside of very rare situations.

#

Have you been playing fury too long? Brainrot set in?

neat hound
#

Fury only DPS spec

#

bloodbath to have more buttons to mash

north thicket
#

I haven't been playing at all recently

#

But it's common sense to deliver correct information

#

and if you are making assumptions along the line

#

to clarify that

brazen rock
#

Ok buddy, let's see how it rolls out peepoHappy

neat hound
mild thunder
#

destroyyyyy

brazen rock
#

Nah it's early and I'm on mobile, plus I'll probably get banned if I continue

mild thunder
#

surprised there werent ban waves for trolling the furys before

brazen rock
#

Need a pvp mod with a wilks of 400 or more

#

Highest total sbd of the season gets mod keks

wheat jay
#

@fierce elm your time has come

mild thunder
#

gigachad mod would ban everyone that admits to enjoying fury

brazen rock
#

Bro coming from 11 years of rdruid/feral, fury is great

#

5iq retard spec I can relax and enjoy

fierce elm
#

wassup NERDS

neat hound
#

who doens't like a good masherino

fierce elm
#

425 wilks reporting in

#

Wow is for nerds

brazen rock
#

Tru

mild thunder
brazen rock
mild thunder
#

fury slander only in this disc pls

wheat jay
#

Mmo mouse sucks ass

#

I'm swapping off of mine

neat hound
#

help what does wilks mean

mild thunder
#

scimitar is good

neat hound
#

google scared me

mild thunder
#

naga sucks asserino

wheat jay
brazen rock
mild thunder
wheat jay
#

Ordered dark core for 1/4 of the price

neat hound
#

TIL, thanks

brazen rock
#

A 425 Wilks is the kind of strength that gets commercial gyms stopping and staring

fierce elm
#

That retard strength

wheat jay
#

Stroke Afro's ego more

#

He might return to wow even

brazen rock
fierce elm
#

stroke me

#

Nobody stares at me because everyone knows me sadgers

stuck mulch
#

anyone met the MM hunters that can kill u in one channel ?

wheat jay
#

Theyd stare if you didnt weigh half your total

tawny river
#

hope they keep giving them 5-10% buffs every week

#

surv too

stuck mulch
scenic maple
#

Why does Slaughterhouse not refreshing stacks seem like too much?

mild thunder
stuck mulch
mild thunder
#

apparently we reroll arms and use our brains

neat hound
#

not think

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just feel

#

unga bunga

mild thunder
#

im falling for the arms hype, might have to retire my ww

#

for pvp* fuck playing arms in raid this tier

brazen rock
#

implying anyones gonna invite dps war anyways

mild thunder
#

rally still stronk, but outside of that we're kinda useless

glad tapir
#

does the crafted 5% cc reduction stack with orc racial?

tawny river
#

just checked the raid and m+ tier list what wowhead put out

brazen rock
#

the last true copium is they buff arms and fury by 10-15% aura and that cascades into some hilarious 1shots in pvp

tawny river
#

i don't feel like arms is below average in m+

brazen rock
tawny river
#

bleed build looks insane in AOE

mild thunder
#

make wft stack and i'll come back to arms with 4 enh in my group

#

ty blizz

neat hound
brazen rock
#

m+ is not raid

tawny river
brazen rock
#

and still in m+, why invite arms when havoc exists?

mild thunder
#

arms defs below average in m+, but definitely still viable

brazen rock
#

havoc does more aoe, has more survive, better group utility

#

better st

mild thunder
#

arms gets so cucked by its talent routes

tawny river
mild thunder
#

its better than them, but still below average

#

also

tawny river
mild thunder
#

sv tears coming from SL m+ is tasty

#

tier list is shit

#

they always are

#

arms is viable, but people will just be pissed that you're not playing fury lol

tawny river
#

ahh anyway i won't play m+ probably xd

mild thunder
#

m+ fun okayge

neat hound
#

just get a static group 5Head

tawny river
#

yeah i agree, i just want to pvp on multiple chars instead

mild thunder
#

im so close to having an actual m+ group, just need a healer

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and to kick one of the dps so we can get someone good copium

brazen rock
#

mine was borderline dh/dh/dh/prevoker before i put my foot down

mild thunder
#

Yea we’re triple melee atm

#

It’s kinda cringe

#

We don’t even have a lust lol

neat hound
#

spicing things up

green wyvern
#

how is arms in m+

#

is it better than fury?

brazen rock
#

dh/dh/mage/prevoker now lul

mild thunder
#

Not better than fury

neat hound
#

we'll see soon

mild thunder
#

But it’s viable

green wyvern
#

Sadge

neat hound
#

play what you like

#

ez

mild thunder
#

And arms aoe build hits like a wet noodle on bosses

#

Just like arms ST build sadge

mild thunder
#

They seem pretty stronk

#

Was leveling one for a bit and holy shit their spells look so cool to use

brazen rock
#

frost

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but can play both ez

#

one dh might switch to lock also

mild thunder
#

Ew frost

#

Yucky

brazen rock
#

actually pumps pretty hard and boils down to "press shiny button" so

mild thunder
#

Yea I remember playing with some pumper frosties in SL

#

Just seems so boringo

brazen rock
#

also while glacial spike isn't meta, the numbers are fun

flat panther
#

Love seeing bloodthirst get nerfed from 5%, to 3%, to 2% over the years

onyx vale
#

you obviously take a warrior to buff your dh and your outlaw in m+

#

a prot warrior that is

#

imagine playing arms in m+

raw summit
tiny moss
#

Yo the pvp nerf is not that bad... people are saying fury is dead

warm kiln
flat pumice
#

fury is dead lmao

graceful ginkgo
#

hopefully

flat pumice
#

unless you're able to have a 24/7 pocket healer you have literally nothing to keep yourself alive in combat

#

dragonflight is so fucking bad, if you saw what was happening to other specs the past 2 weeks you would've seen this coming. this is another dead on arrival expansion that everyone loves for the first 2 weeks then quits

brazen rock
#

aint dead but feel free to reroll

#

fotm melee rn is ass rogue

flat pumice
#

reroll 💀 it's warriors or nothing my guy im not spending $15 a month to do the same dogshit content i already did to level up every fotm spec

steel rune
#

Just play arms like a true chad

flat pumice
brazen rock
#

arms is gigachad for 15 years, finally has a bad expac start, and your this mad

#

oof

steel rune
#

Even if the change was to slaughter and self heal if you re roll your rotation won’t be 2 buttons anymore so no sir not retarded

hot solstice
#

I wish everyone here had their true exp on avatar…so I knew whom to take serious

brazen rock
#

and with blizzards being this proactive with buffs/nerfs, who knows

flat pumice
spice marsh
#

so what sthe consensus on first early eason. arms or fury?

brazen rock
#

fury

steel rune
#

Poor Evan

#

I still played arms S3 and S 4 of SL. If you’re good the class still works

spice marsh
#

I need all the help I can get. so fury it is

brazen rock
#

imo best off playing with another MS class like cat and dropping slaughterhouse

#

depending on how stacks dropping and stacking works.

raw summit
thick reef
#

So which build are we running now? Troma's or MUD's?

clever mango
#

It kills me that everyone complains about fury's healing doesn't understand it, and the nerfs show it lol

onyx vale
#

i don't know where that " good for 2 weeks " meme comes from

green wyvern
#

fury warriors malding

onyx vale
#

everyone I know called bfa and shadowlands trash from day one

#

hell even legion sucked massive dicks at release

thick reef
brazen rock
thick reef
#

I tried that one in a BG the other day and healed more than all the healers and did more damage than everyone else

clever mango
#

people whine for fury healing nerfs, so they nerf cshb by 10% and bloodthirst by 1%. fury self healing still gonna be mad high

brazen rock
#

s1 was pumpin friend

onyx vale
#

hehehe

brazen rock
#

EASIEST rating of my life

#

sit back and watch him execute charge people from 100 to dead

steel rune
# raw summit Mies as a kid

Mies as a kid but @flat pumice man doesn’t have the mental capacity to play arms. Pre parry goes pre bladestorm goes. Man can’t do anything if he has to outplay people actually

void hamlet
#

what weapon enchant are you guys using for fury in pvp

brazen rock
#

str/vers writs

void hamlet
#

thanks

brazen rock
#

frozen devo apparently pumps? but im cheap

jaunty niche
brazen rock
#

good thing it says bloodthirst and not bloodbath 🙂

clever mango
#

not the point though

#

The point is people cried about the wrong shit so they nerfed the wrong shit and fury is still gonna heal like a mf

brazen rock
#

...

#

stop

#

fury is beyond fine

onyx vale
#

they nerfed exactly what was needed, the perma 40% ms

brazen rock
#

^

clever mango
#

I've tried to explain to people if they really wanna hurt fury heals, go after ER, but nah, they still wanna cry about Bloodthirst base heal

#

So fury heals still busted it is

#

But big agree, slaughterhouse nerf was the one that really mattered

onyx vale
#

who fucking cares if you can't tunnel a fury for 8 seconds every 2 minutes

clever mango
#

EXACTLY

#

Thank you

craggy socket
#

Locks got nerfed too

#

The changes are legit

#

Nice delete there bud

clever mango
#

Garrosh out here makin sense

brazen rock
#

its a good sign that blizzard is being alot more proactive then usual

#

this is pre-season also where they dont have nearly as much data to pull from

craggy socket
#

Most people agree changes were fair all around

#

Every class discord is bitching

#

Which means good job bLiZz

#

Wait and see how the season goes

#

They said they’re doing more frequent changes this time around

clever mango
#

remove locks from the game

#

tbh

brazen rock
#

wrecking throw go brr

#

but yes remove locks

craggy socket
#

Atleast mages are bad

brazen rock
#

or atleast bring their HP in-line with other casters

#

the excuse of no mobility is bunk when SP has even less.

clever mango
#

Wrecking Throw with the PvP talent that increases it's dmg almost entirely removes Dark Pact instantly

brazen rock
#

but also nerf SP damage because hoyl jesus fuck what

clever mango
#

yeah that

dusky parrot
#

im currently 411 on my pvp ilvl. Is this near the max until the seasons starts?

brazen rock
#

yes thats max.

#

well, besides crafted

#

ok bye.

clever mango
#

my man is cooked

brazen rock
#

you say this before kittycleave is about to roll over half the bracket winning in the first minute of matches.

dusky parrot
#

I got my 6tier warmode set with everything else being lvl 3 aspirant gear. Along with one WM weapon and a 378 dragon lance

dark sparrow
brazen rock
#

warmode set bonuses do not work in instanced constant.

#

you gotta relax buddy, its a video game.

clever mango
#

fury heals will be fine

dusky parrot
#

It's 3% atm

brazen rock
#

lmao what

steep inlet
#

I think Arms we be nice now

brazen rock
#

obviously it got automodded

clever mango
#

arms is nice, it's just made of paper

#

which makes it not nice

brazen rock
#

shame it didn't autoban also

tribal wedge
steep inlet
#

I know

green wyvern
#

arms is fine

high veldt
#

$pb 482801824592691201 Fuck off bigot

unkempt egretBOT
#

Done.

steep inlet
#

Nice luna

brazen rock
shut barn
#

u guys need to be like a true warrior irl and dont give a fuck about nerfs or buffs a true warrior doesnt give a fuck

clever mango
#

lkmao

high veldt
#

🧡

clever mango
#

lmmao

#

jesus, okay I'm done, I'm just gonna accept that I can't type

brazen rock
high veldt
#

🕵️

limpid fossil
#

People saying fury is dead are hilarious. Most classes got needed nerfs.

clever mango
#

fury is/will be fine. only thing that hurt was the Slaughterhouse nerf and that's even fine.

steep inlet
#

Watch R1 Warriors destroying ladder as Arms in 1 week

#

Mark my words

limpid fossil
#

That meme makes no sense lol...

brazen rock
#

it'll be strong in 3s with another partner to be trained

#

in 2s/solo its dead af

flat pumice
#

probably the weakest 1v1 spec I can think of now. I don't play many classes but fury has pretty much no survivability now

stuck mulch
#

Solo is gonna be fun

limpid fossil
#

The survivability really didn't even take a big hit

flat pumice
#

you literally can't heal fast enough. it's futile

stuck mulch
#

Love low baits

#

Trying hard

flat pumice
#

you have to be going against a literal shiter doing no DPS

green wyvern
#

we will see people like clapper running ret/arms and tsg

#

one shotting people to 3k rating

steep inlet
#

Exact

green wyvern
#

arms damage is really strong

shut barn
#

am i watching ppl who just rerolled fury casue they thought its op or what ?
why ppl are overreacting so much 😄

steep inlet
#

Arms ret is still very good

flat pumice
onyx vale
#

he is been playing fury for 15 years

#

when you enjoyed arms he studied the blade

green wyvern
#

fury mains are something else

tiny moss
#

I've been playing fury for 34 years

green wyvern
#

and the funniest thing

#

most fury mains are terrible at the game

shut barn
#

is that a "fury main" thing

#

i dont think its real xd

tiny moss
#

yes

green wyvern
#

ofc

flat pumice
#

nah people just like to cry about fury warriors because they've been getting shit on by them for a few expansions now

shut barn
onyx vale
#

this is a true fury blademaster, show some respect

brazen rock
shut barn
#

some ppl need to do it with 2 weapons some ppl do it with 1

#

thats all

brazen rock
#

really just coping for arms survive buff so i can play it in solo/2s/world

grizzled zinc
#

Anyone have a fury 1shot macro?

brazen rock
#

#showtooltip Recklessness
/use [@player] 14
/cast Blood Fury(Racial)
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast Thunderous Roar

#

or lord imagine if they gave fury set bonus to arms

grizzled zinc
#

Ty

brazen rock
#

5 sudden death procs per min? keks

near delta
craggy socket
#

I know theres a few arms builds, which one you guys liking the best?

#

Im trying out fatality now

edgy prism
#

is there something like a haste cap?

#

or do we just take haste/vers on any piece we can? drakebreaker head is 408 with haste instead of 411 honor head with mastery for example

craggy socket
#

Welcome to caster meta

drowsy abyss
#

Two builds. Skulspillter/bleed and Unhinged-build. And no, fury will still be fine into casters. Selfheal will still be strong.

thick reef
#

So at this point, Blizzard's plan is to nerf everything until only evoker is cool right?

raw summit
#

Presto is like the best healer tho

grizzled zinc
#

What order is best to buy honor gear?

raw summit
#

All>of>it

clever mango
#

trinkets>weapons>everything else

brazen rock
#

can use old season trinkets for the same set bonus i believe.

woeful solstice
#

Is fury dead? thank god

#

arms back on the menu

steep inlet
#

Not dead at all

clever mango
#

fury is fine

steep inlet
brazen rock
#

fury is fun and all but hitting a back-to-back 110k MS to 105k execute in a skirm gives me a high i haven't felt in years

craggy socket
#

Yeah arms is fun

#

Im running crit unhinged build and im doing insane pressure

woeful solstice
#

fury is already just gonna get chopped to nothing

brazen rock
#

naw fury is great

woeful solstice
#

for now

brazen rock
#

I'm doubtful it'll get nerfed again.

woeful solstice
brazen rock
#

if anything it'll see a PVE ST buff

#

because its doggy dog shit there rn

#

same with arms

steep inlet
#

Arms best spec soon

#

And all r1 as Arms next week

#

With one of their build pinned

#

100%

clever mango
#

big doubts but you have my interest

craggy socket
#

Which build you liking Troma?

#

Im digging unhinged

brazen rock
#

some turd in muds discord linked this and it feels a bit silly. damage never stops, burst still good, use same haste gear

craggy socket
#

Link me muds disc

onyx vale
#

people complaining you can't kill fury during their 8 sec cd every 2 minutes?

rigid hinge
#

so is the play to go arms now?

brazen rock
#

nah still fury

#

for 2s/solo atleast

#

arms will be good in 3s i think

rigid hinge
#

Talking about rated 3s

onyx vale
#

i like to meme on fury as much as anyone else but people still crying after those nerfs keks

#

blizzard please i can't tunnel the fury during their wall

undone pumice
#

hey guys you see the fury nerfs yet?

thorn herald
#

Wish there was a ptr to see how the stacks worked

#

How fast they get them up

wheat crane
#

Falls off

#

Then 3 more

#

Rinse repeat

#

Ping pong up and down

woeful solstice
brazen rock
#

lmao what the fuck

#

150k ms on a 340k hp dh

woeful solstice
#

it's time brothers

#

arms rise up

#

reject modernity, embrace tradition

brazen rock
#

it took 2 sudden death procs and all my CDs to get there but boy did we do it

steep inlet
#

As an Arms lover I’m happy

dusky parrot
#

@elfin surge I love you

steep inlet
#

for All Arms enjoyers

limber wagon
#

pvp set has no set bonus ?

#

is fury still alive with the healing debuff nerf though ?

woeful solstice
#

fury prob fine for ladder but i think arms will smoke it

limber wagon
#

i mean fury MS is totally fucked

#

healing only nerfed by 1/3rd

woeful solstice
#

yeah its awful now

#

slaughterhouse rip

#

would rather just play arms

green wyvern
#

just run arms full crit

#

one shot people with ret/warr

#

freest glad

limber wagon
#

arms felt garbage idk

green wyvern
#

not really

#

you have to kite a bit

thorn herald
#

Orks build pumps

limber wagon
#

by far the easiest thing in the game to kill i think

thorn herald
#

I'm already in full crit gear and the damage is real high you just fall over real quick

woeful solstice
woeful solstice
#

so is arms crit+vers?

thorn herald
#

It's the same build from the mud discord linked earlier I'm not in game so I can't link

woeful solstice
#

thought maybe a mastery bleed build could pump

thorn herald
#

Crit vers with haste on pieces with no crit

limber wagon
#

def stance 10% dmg reduction for 20% less dmg done kekw

thorn herald
#

Let def stance die in peace

woeful solstice
#

cant find the discord link

#

someone link muds disc

craggy socket
#

Yeah arms feels pretty awful stll ngl

#

The damage is decent at times but like..

wheat crane
#

i mean if its still squishy itll be fine in shit liek shuffle

craggy socket
#

just dead

wheat crane
#

charge in blow something the fuck up

brazen rock
#

The dam is there, you need to play with another class that can take heat off you

rigid hinge
#

does the kitty ms and fury ms stack

brazen rock
#

no

craggy socket
#

arms feels awful after doing some skirms this morning im sorry

#

its just bad