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DH will finally die as of Wednesday
When you can play a spec with a donkey Kong bongo drum gamecube controller, that means the spec is absolutely downy
Mate it’s the same people aswell
DH is fine
Especially to phys DPS
When all you have to do is follow a target pressing 1 and 2, you shouldn't be rewarded with one of the strongest melee specs in pvp.
Imagine fury brain when he lucky bladestorms cc…oh w8 they don’t have one now
unironic fury mains 
On the basis of what
you can have fury, just shouldn't be as effective as it is
Why
All the people hating on fury better be 2400+ if its that easy
this is actually insane, its a literal mob
because its low investment and mindless play
Finally I can level my Arms alt and not feel like trolling
None of you had made a coherent point as to why it shouldn’t , all I’m hearing is “I don’t like how the spec plays therefore it doesn’t deserve to be good”
This is just some subjective jerking
It’s too good. It got nerfed. Easy
because low investment specs shouldnt be as potent as specs that have/require more skill
specs like fury that are only good when they’re overtuned because they lack the tools to bring anything meaningful to a composition other than busted damage/healing
Bruh I'm not offended by arms or fury I just like warrior and play what is fun to me. It must be tiring being this offended by such small things in life
Shouldn’t be good
What does that even mean are you saying that r1 Dhs were low skill people @quick carbon
You gotta be kidding if you are thinking fury is fine
its fine for those specs to exist - but those specs shouldnt have crazy self-healing, MW effects, tankiness and damage baked into two buttons
🤡
Because DH has also been easy as hell
A good player can play a busted spec, it doesn't mean the spec isn't busted
dh takes way more skill than fury warrior lmao
Once again why does the spec need to be complex, it’s horrible game design to make classes complicated to play
No it doesn’t
Someone get mud in here to defend fury war, they need a proper champion, a true fury main
It’s as easy
it’s a horrible game design to make classes take 2 buttons to play lmao
Omg shut the fuck up
LITERAL 2 button rotation
complex does not mean complicated
I main a FDK, it’s literally 5% harder
yall are cringe as hell
it just means MORE THAN 2 BUTTONS
frost dk hits more than 2 buttons too LMAO
Have you guys even seen a women in months?
touch some grass and some titties
And that’s what it should be
and fury is just the easiest
there's a difference between "easy to follow"
How can anyone actually defend fury being OP
and bt > bt > bt > ramp repeat
fury warrior mains so cringe
Also these points are moot because the same people would be bitching if fury was a tad bit harder
ADS - arms derangement syndrome
Clown spec, 2 buttons, unpeelable 40% Ms while unkillable
Like let’s not pretend you whine about fury because it’s too easy
You whine because it overtook your precious arms spec
imagine coming to warrior discord to bitch about warriors
And it’s extremely hard for you to handle that
👍🏼
The difference is you can tell when you're playing vs a dogshit WW for example, You can't tell the diff between a 1800 fury and a 2400 fury.
really bc its a warrior spec
I know that because I’ve seen arms people do it constantly for expansions
id love to play fury, if it wasnt the most braindead retard spec in history
Especially in this discord
if they brought back WoD fury, id enjoy it
WOD FURY WAS BASED
Let me guess you play mage?
Fury? Isn’t it vorgen panda vulpera thing?
There is no "fury main" defending this spec right now, you're just being cringe lol
Now is the time to switch to fury, it will be good but not ridiculously overtuned
maybe i can be gud at pvp with fury 😄
If you wanna make fury harder then make arguements that make it harder , instead of saying “huge nerf make fury unplayable”
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I'll be honest my dude, if you tried fury once you maybe would have get out of your 2k elo hell
no offense though
I don’t main fury, I main Dk, issue is FDK is becoming and has become unplayable
I’m fine with playing garbage specs
apparently not
i played like <300 games and still climbed, but okay chief 
if you cant read the messages from people saying fury should be 2 buttons and still strong, thats a you problem
Yes fury is a good beginner spec for pvp
it was half joke what i said but thanks for the answer
not sure how we gonna play now with tha ms change
if we still run it or not
Can't really expect much from people with weeb pictures
this is supposed to be a place of knowledge and we have rating bashing taking place 😔
The issue is that people want to make it “harder” by nerfing it to unplayability
dw, Mave has GDS > Galachad Derangement Syndrome
The MS nerf isn’t nice but it’s still very very decent
truee, pepe images are so much more original and based
You have to take the nerf into account of other specs
You think rating bashing is worse than shittalking people everytime you join a discord because they play a spec just because it's more viable than the other?
DH got massive nerf
you're delusional
Warlocks got nerf
Woah bro that’s toxic
Who would do that
Fury is great. I'm a casual player and too old to use too much brain power when playing a game these days. Luckily I don't have complexity issues and don't need to press more buttons to make my peen bigger
not arms mains, no no
I genuinely don’t understand this mentality, like it’s a fun spec that doesn’t require much process and thought, I am completely fine with that why make pvp into some niche game
I would NEVER
Where you have to sweat specs just to deserve playability
no shit, that type of play shouldn't be so rewarding
Arms mains, fury mains, can't you just start playing whatever you like without being a cringe mf
i respect all my fury brothers, on god 🙂 🙂 🙂
the MS should've been nerfed harder imho
Fr bro I respect everyone, even if they’re retarded
452 votes and 80 comments so far on Reddit
Fury got off easy compared to DK
Once again, this genuinely doesn’t mean much , wow has always had classes and specs like this every expansion and every season
It worked again
not everyone can have the right amount of chromosomes, it's not their fault 😦
the hero we needed
I main a dk most people benched their dk
He is cursed
Some went fury some went Dh
Bad dks benched their dks
Frost dk is unplayable
DK might get buffed again
Mate you genuinely have zero clue
they seem kinda bad now, idk
unholy dk is fine
It's not that the spec exists, again. It's how rewarding it is without asking much in return. You can play a fury war worse than almost every other spec and be just as rewarded for it. that's when specs become a problem
Mes is literally one of the strongest dks pvp wise
I play one I feel fine in it
And he benched
idk how people dont understand this take
nobody cares that people play fury war, they care how bad they are allowed to play and still be effective. same with BM hunters
2 button specs shouldnt do as much in those 2 buttons as other classes do in an actual rotation
Preach to them
No because once again this has never been a thing for wow, what you describe has always been relevant, blizzard has always had classes that required less effort but more damage
they’re typing holy fuck
This is a moot point
An. S tier spec will almost always require less skill to win in comparison to a D tier spec
This isn’t rocket science to figure out
Based and true
it takes them a while because they're only used to 2 buttons on their keyboards 
if you really care that other people get easier rating than you by playing a certain spec with low skill cap than blame blizzard and stop shaming people, it's not their fault that you guys don't break 1.8 tbh
If your class or spec is heavily unbalanced, it will by definition require less effort and skill to beat others
which is why people want it tuned down
You can play warrior much worse than other classes and be just as rewarded for it.
Why is it a problem on spec level but not on class level?
Woah rating bashing that’s CRAZYYY, I’ll have you know I am definitely beyond the 1.8 threshold thank you very much
because you can punish a shit arms war heavily
That’s why some specs dominate some season ladders over others
so guys
There was not one single frost dk on the ladder in last season of shadowlands is that because there weren’t any good frost dks or is it because the spec was unplayable
consensus on Arms racial? DI or Human?
Human
human is bis mog
Gnome for arms for sure!
human for the mog game
Sin still super nasty tho dwarf much worth
if you have a big P you go gnome
fem nelf > all other races
They are both generally equal with different toolkits
the best warrior race as far as looks in the entire game is Tauren no cap
I would
fury doenst bring the best MS in the game anymore and now they bring a bad MS that expires…. WERE FUCKED
based
tauren mogs = dope
tauren on mounts = stupido
stop talking about the actual game and talk about warrior mogs @quaint snow
Tauren mogs are just bis
As fuck
The nerf is bad but fury is still high A tier spec
why play human warr? you just use racial and get 2 dps trinkets? or?
In comparison to many S tier specs we got off relatively easy
u play human warrior for the mogs
sorry if i make super noob questions, i am noob:P
that’s it
human is flexible, can choose any trinket combo i guess
this is a transmog channel now! 
@restive nimbus You don’t have to spend on medallion
goodnight my fellow arms warrior enthusiasts
Can get a Health trinket instead
And you fury weirdos
Which helps survivability
based king 
I've googled arms' rotation because I kinda forgot, why are all guides saying to slam instead of using overpower at 2 charges?
arms rotation is kinda scuffed atm... in pvp, if playing battlelord just ignore slam and OP
only press slam if 0 stacks of OP and MS on CD, and you have enough rage to MS when it comes up
yeah it was easy in SL because enduring blow made mortal strike best button
but apparently now in pve people MS only to refresh deep wounds
Whenever I meet whatever arms who play I feel like they don’t know what they are supposed to hit this expansion
MS still best button, there's just weird counter-interactions because of ToM
most people know, its just heavily dependent on what build you're using
if battlelord, then OP is high prio
if no battlelord, then OP is bottom prio
what if MS procs MS, and now I've got OP 2 charges and MS without buffs?
All tanks got nerfed
then MS
always MS > OP
Gonna be an interesting season
they did more tuning in the last 6 weeks than in whole shadowlands
that's a good sign
Yea
I mean we all knew fury would get nerfed
But in relative to other specs I think it could have been far worse
Every S tier spec self healing got nerfed
losing stacking ms was probably the biggest hit to fury
Yea
it was the only hit to fury
we can do fine without oppressive selfheals, but have to work 3x as hard to do any ms effect
It’s budget version of MS
spriest didnt, did they?
They did
watch as assa rogue kites you to oblivion and you barely keep up 4 stacks KEKW
We saw all this yeah
@copper hare Tanks in blizzard forum are literally rampaging now
random bgs and 2s double dps skirms may have skewed public perception a bit in terms of class strength
any screenshots pls
braindead tank players
Yeah some of those were weird, brewmaster was already dead bottom
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why should i have to rely on healers in a team-game? 
It has to be the same guy
fury and arms mains can unite to roast tank mains
unity has been achieved
Maybe it’s not same guys ;o
People don't hate playing tanks, that's why people play them.
people dont listen to him in his +2s 😦
jokes on him, my tanks are never nice and cuddly
These are my favorite kind of casual players, legit had a tank standing around afk after I pulled some mobs in a m0, he said "play your role", we finished it without him, these guys really living in a different dimension I swear
My tanking has always been "you tank what you pull" and the Demon Huntards get mad when I tell my gf not to heal them.
Because
They're tanking what they pull

yea nah thats pretty cringe
someone makes a mistake or whatever, just take aggro and heal them
and if you're a tank thats pulling 1 pack at a time and wasting your DPS' time, yea im gonna pull for you
But you don't accidentally dash into multiple mobs throughout the key.
I hope you can tank what you pull then

100% he is one of the tanks that sits there with 100% hp all the time pulling one mob
Because you won't be getting heals
dont need to, im a ww so i oneshot them 
True

F for Fury i guess
Fury will be better then arms for season 1
I think arms will be S tier by season 2 or at latest season 3
I don't get the not refreshing stacks nerf
thats really dumb ye
Completely gutting the reason you would bring a fury to arena ?
they essentially just gutted ur MS
how..?
how is it gutted if you cant spam 40% ms lol
It’s a guess but I think they will constantly buff arms similar to fury in shadowlands
No you can't as it will reset every 9 secs
Fury was like the worst melee spec in season 1 shadowlands
doubtful... they dont understand whats wrong with arms
Then MS came out
And ramp up again and agaib
And then tier set
its not the 40% its the fact that u cant have the 40% on demand
And it became god tier
u will have ur stacks fall off
they're buffing damage, which means they're too retarded to realise that defensives are the issue
We will have to see with S1
tbf damage was dogshit pre mortal strike buffs, and still is less than fury by all means
I think it will get buffed tho
Yea but the thing is
double BS into spear seems strong
meant buffs sorry
fury does more and faster and with less setup in terms of cleave
Is there new nerfs coming? i heard from someone but i cant seem to find any
beside hotfixes from yesterday
Yes
Big nerfs for many specs
and also its down to 27% ms effect now
hope to god preservation evoker gets nerfed before arena opens
Where can i find them?
https://t.co/6YOp6DunTU - WowHead link from their tweet
pretty sure healers will see tuning as well
I think it’s 36%
the only healer tuning needed is those dragon people
Nah it’s 12 sticks
oh duration is 9
shaman could use a little buff
As I said with blood rage
We can have a good MS
Look we all knew fury would get nerfed
Everyone and their mother
bruh i was watching wargames against kitty cleave with shaman healer @graceful ginkgo
holy fuck
The question was “how much”
those guys have so much dmg now
And the answer in comparison to other specs not so much
I want it to get nerfed even harder tbh so arms can be meta and be looked at more
ngl
fuck fury
Once again this is a fallacy
Don’t fall for it
What could end up happening is both specs suck
Like DK
With one spec doing a little bit better
unholy does NOT suck lol
Unholy is meh
look at petkick
I main FDK unholy is B tier
@severe skiff yeah man that build trucks
Gross. I’m just tryna zug. All zug all the time
You will eat them for breakfast
really shitty self survivability tho
i think both arms and fury will be fine in s1, fury maybe a bit stronger
i am looking forward to it, playing turbo zug zug
because of the dmg profile fury is fine
10% less gushing wound but 1% more bloodbath
that got hit
Idk man there's top dk players saying they're fine with the nerfs. Petkick being one of them. We will see once arena opens.
Most of our self heals come from enraged regeneration
And impending
Anyways
We also have bitter immunity
Mes was feeling pretty down about DK yesterday
Most top bench
Mes is gonna bench
His dk
Like jra think of it this way
I main FDK I woke up one day and saw that our survivability got nerfed outright 60%
I wasn’t good on DK even when they were OP. Scared to jump back on it lol
either way we can't tell shit till arena season starts
we go fdk arms tsg and cry together? 
Blizzard did a pearl harbour on dks
same
No one was talking about it
Is WW that strong? Haven’t really had much problem with them so far
we are one shotting everyone
You guys should see ele sham and shadow priest as well kekw
They are very bursty
Shadow priest got nerfed
Somewhat
DH got also massive nerf I don’t think you guys understand how much
Imagine if this was fury lmfao
I couldn’t even fit it in my phone there’s more
How are locks fairing? Idk much about them but it seems like they are still gonna be pretty strong. Didn’t seem to get hit all that much.
ele untouched though and in terms of casters just out right one tapping me from 70% in dstance, ele is the only one
They are strong but their tankiness for nerfed which was needed
but aff is squishier then demo but demo doesnt die
Warlock was tankier then most plate classes
and had more mobility
How are ele one shotting you? Just getting overloaded a bunch?
Oh that’s fair. I was thinking legit 1 tap like enh was doing for a bit.
Also arms honestly it’s garbage
Like whenever I meet arms
Once their parry is over they are dead meat
Let arms burn. Long live the zug
I honestly haven't played shaman since MoP so I'm basically clueless how their dam works nowadays. But I'll legit die from 70% in 1 gcd and it's not stormkeeper.
do you mind linking your gear
Remember fury S1 shadowlands
sorry but the arms people u r facing doesnt know whats up
because that doesn't sound true
ive been one shotting on arms since day one
ele is great, but current fury shits on ele
but because bleed meta arms is gonna get fucked
You got damoge but bad survivability
but tide of blood is hitting 150k
I main ele, but I feel like unless you are getting massive overloads (which shouldn’t happen that much) you are probably looking at 3ish GCD for 100-0 assuming you don’t use defensive or get healed.
I didn't say I can't beat them in 1v1 or smthin lol
fire elemental + skyfury totem + unlucky = you are about to be blasted
not dying either with my retard mastery gear @gritty salmon like 500k healing per game
Fury mastery? Sounds sick
I see I don’t know, I just feel like facing arms and dks is heaven for me
QUote me here: Arms tide of blood will be good
Also what happened to ret paladins did they get forgotten by blizzard or some shit ?
I honestly just feel like it's lavaburst procs in bgs cuz of flame shock spread. Cause fuckloads of lavaburst coming out of nowhere is what kills me most of the time.
No
Someone teach me how to get fury rotation down from 2 buttons to just 1. I’m tryna unga bunga even harder
You can’t unfortunately
You need rage
Rage zug
can i macro pvp talents and if so how do i do it?
I feel like there is a way to make a macro to spam bloodthirst until rampage is up then it swaps to rampage.
Couldn't you macro rampage first and then bloodthirst so it always tries to cast rampage which is basically your rage check ?
that might work
I think with the new MS nerf you have to be as effective as possible with rage
But it’s taking my whole brain cell just to hit two buttons. No way my cave man brain will be able to craft a macro.
You see, I’m bad, so I just have to be a little less bad than the other baddies I play.
Well
It’s a simple life.
Stick to 2s
prot gang?
Tunnel focus zug zug
I see. I like. I do.
They nerfed all tanks
i was wondering if you could macro deathwish with rampage or blood thrist
Do you guys think Bruce Willis plays fury warrior in wow?
#showtooltip Bloodthirst
/cast Rampage
/cast Bloodbath
/cast Bloodthirst
try this
No but Vin diesel prolly does
might work no cap
Prot gang ?
I will. Will report back when I hit glad.
you can't macro abilities that are on the same gcd together
prot gang 😎
With booming voice nerf and SC nerf our prot burst took -35% dmg
idk what you're smoking but I want some of it
popo
no
yes
Tryna turn two button fury into one button fury.
think about it more
lol
I will show later
Yea
If you don't wanna press your keybinds, maybe just get a dance pad like this guy lol
Der 1st 20er auf Tanzmatte mit einen DuDu tank
They nerfed all tanks so all tanks will take more damage
and -35% dmg on shield charge is real popo
its very real
Scary bears can’t hurt us any more. 🙂
All in all I think the tuning was good
fortunately
fuck those players
I love that there was the one guy on reddit saying he always plays classes right before they get nerfed and he was gonna take one for the team and roll bear so blizz would nuke them. God bless
Yep
what a hero
He is cursed
A man of the people really
Tries to cast rampage first, will fail if not enough rage, tries to cast bloodbath second, fails if rampage wasn't used recently, tries to cast bloothirst
Unless macros were changed in a significant way to block multiple /cast attemps on same gcd it should work
so you only need 1 button for fury, instead of 2
If this works, I’m binding it to mouse wheel and never looking back
bind it to up and down, just to make sure
shit
and u can't rly macro it
there goes the perfect plan
WoW crashed windows
At my rank I could probably get by with just the macro. Tbf, I probably don’t even need bloodthirst in the bikini bottom ass tier I am
It's also pgood to keep bloodthirsting if someone's low sometimes
RIP in peace fury warr
it legit hits harder than rampage so of you have a bloodbath + bloodthrist leftover you'd rather use them than rampage
if someone's under 35%
truly a spec of one button
Hey, good that def stance prob gonna stay unchanged
dh is actually preety fun this expac suprisingly enough, it finally has utility to do setups proper, the fear was a big addition
atm dh is legit warrior but better in every single way, except no intervene
your fear is ranged, you have a better stormbolt (no travel time) , ranged kick, better mobility, same cleave orientated playstyle, extra stun
No
Intervene is just such a good fucking button I can't play without it tho
Fury = DH with both nerfs
Also the fact that fury can get stunned around 5 pillars and 80 yd from his healer, and still live
DH dies in bomb
"Unless macros were changed in a significant way to block multiple /cast attemps on same gcd it should work" yea they were changed 15 years ago on the release of bc
whats our stat prio/enchants for both fury and arms?
whups wrong reply
How big is the heal nerf on fury?
Big
Stop ruining my dream of 1-button fury.
Slaughter is the real nerf
How long do uou need to get 12 stacks tho
you could castsequence it maybe but that might fuck up depending on whether bloodbath is up
8 was pretty fast i think?
3 Rampages and then you can enjoy the last 3 seconds of the debuff, at less power than pre-nerf
3 rampages assuming none of them are dodged/parried (dunno if it even can be)
Stack it up again when it falls off
Thank god for that though, fury having a better MS than arms just didn't sit well with me.
ngl
Sounds good tho
Less self healing, worse ms
Mightt make arms viable
Without gutting fury
The huge ammount of burst cleave and self healing too
It just did everything better than arms ngl
Yeah I think this is potentially a huge nerf
everyone does
like you have 9 seconds to cast a lot of globals
agreed
and if enemy isnt an ape and can kite you
Not everything, it just has more sustain and a stronger MS
It also did just more damage in general.
Higher cleave
No ?
More dps
Ye
In a single hit sure
In general
i've been hit for 70-80k with MS and > 100k exeutes by Arms on my enhance
so that seems ok?
Enhance <3
Like I've done lots of testing on the pvp dummy specifically seeing consistant dam. My fury does like 38k dps, arms is at 34k.
after dbts arms is kinda squishy, jeah
Your uptime is prob higher on fury as you dont need to chicken to survive
Im bgs arms does same cleave as fury pmuch with the right build but like, fury does it in 4 gcds, arms takes a while.
So idk
Arms is definitely the superior cleave spec
For sustained cleave?
Yes
Sweeping is one of the best abilities in the game
+75% dmg for your meter right there
😎👍
It does more over time sure, but you don't rly get people to stack much esp if you're not playing some variation of tsg.
Any melee cleave will stack
Fury being able to reck avatar, rampage, roar, rampage,odyns,rampage. And that being 100% of people's hp of everyone around you, assuming they don't press CDs I think is way more valuable in a pvp environment.
No different than WB, Avatar, spear, BS/sweep
fury's strongest weapon was 40% ms
it's pmuch gone now
at higher ratings nobody will allow you to stack 12 stacks in 9 seconds
even if you manage to stack it, it will last for 2-3 seconds max
arms hits way harder
you see this you can see coming from a mile away, it takes lots of gcds to setup, fury starts it with next to no setup and the cleave is insane instantly, bladestorm unhinged just goes slower
I feel like fury will just be played without slaughter, and someone else will cover MS
and it'll still be meta
I don't think so, but will see
Think you just underestimate arms damgur
yeah we'll see
But all good
I'm honestly hoping arms is better
I'm gonna make the fattest hot take and say arms is now better
Even if it dies easier
well Exzi is practicing arms
I hope so man, cause fuck playing this dogshit PvE spec in pvp
in wargames rn
But the real question is: is arms better than prot?
Fury is so bad I s2g
he prpbably thinks arms is better

Next up they'll make fury wall not usable in a stun, see then we'd be approaching a less foolproof spec
I just don't understand why they gave fury an MS in the first place
because arms was already becoming bad
Or the other 5 specs that have it
Because fury was Z-tier before
dh, warr, hunter and ww are the only specs that should have an ms
Never played and forever unviable
and only arms should have a >25% ms
None should
might be a hot take but imo there's certain specs that are the pvp ones and I hate it when something else is better
unholy->frost
arms->fury
sub->assass
frost mage>fire
Only arms has a mortal strike :3
you cant limit MS to arms, thats just stupid af'
as a few examples
I mean I don't entirely agree, but I get what you mean
Specs like fury and BM hunter are usually only good when they're overtuned on numbers
PvE specs is what they are
all specs should be playable, but 2 specs of the same class shouldnt fill the same niche
arms and fury shouldnt really be interchangeable in the same comp
You see the reason I think only one spec should be viable is exactly because of how they're made in the first place.
look at unholy dk for example
it's just better utility wise for pvp, had the option of kiting when needed excetera
only reason frost is ever better is cause it just parses better literally
and so all of dk's skill cap goes down the drain cause your meta spec now is some PvE dogwater spec that's just loaded with damage
I really don't think that's fun for the player playing that spec, and it's not fun to play against on the recieving end either cause there's no real thought behind it.
i 100% disagree with your take 🙂
Tbf, the DK specs have at least some different niches
Frost DK fks melee cleaves and UDK fks casters
FDK + arms TSG when it goes right just makes you feel like you're playing the next expansion
Yeah, although that's mostly after blizz's design perspective changed and they started trying to make it pvp viable post legion.
If they still had their same ways of thinking we'd be still just looking at unholy dk and that's it. Idk, might be a boomer take. I've just played MoP for like 5 years in total (pservers). And seeing what are, in my head essentially PvE specs running rampant / being meta in pvp just disgusts me.
Just my personal opinion though
I feel Unholy and Frost have completely different roles
frost - kid who is given unplugged controller
You don't play TWD with unholy because frost can set up goes easier. Frost is generally easier for more specs to work with.
Whereas you wouldn't dream of fdk-demo
No that's bdk
Not true
I dont understand why everyone crying that fury is OP, and i legit feel like it is kinda meh
RIP Fury. Any one mind sharing the ARMS pvp spec. Time to dust off that muscle memory
you OBVIOUSLY didn't play before the UH 9.1 buffs lmao
Feels weird being back in the same health pool
Maybe now DH is killable as well
It wasn't OP, just really good. DH and warlock for example are OP af
Good thing fury is garbage 😎👍
Sometimes i fell i cant do anything to priest as fury even with the 40% heal reduction
priest healer or spriest?
healer i cant even get him lower than 90%, shadowpriest just same shit
honestly lmao
u didnt see nerfs ?
:/
prot war took -25% on shield charge
biggest burst
and -10% dmg
and nerf to tankyness too
y and def stance
remember when we said buff things up to fury dont nerf fury down or warr becomes a shit class?
big oof
Def stance doesn’t change for pvp
overall the biggest nerf
is total -35% dmg to burst
wtf
never play shockwave in pvp
DR stun everywhere
yep but guardian was massive
You want DR stuns? Play leap stun pvp talent lol
i didnt relly on that for my prot dont worry
good fuck tanks in pvp
yep but guardian was massively busted
they all got nerfs pretty sure
fuck em all
get out of pvp
good basically a healer anyway
Arms feels like a legit wet paper towel
main complaint of arms is paper
so they nerf fury sustain heal and ms
so that arms is better than fury but warriors are paper now
WARRIORS
paper
lmao

whats the diferent between diferent "quality level" weapon enchantments? if the procs give the same stats lol?
🤓
not same stats tooltips broken
bugs
yeah ofc I didn't shadowlands was dogwater expac, played season 1 and left it, just like legion and bfa
then you would know that UH is useless if it didn't have necrotic wounds
Do anyone has a BiS enchant list?
Useless? That's cooked man idk
Good.
Honestly I don't want to touch dk post legion reworks anyways
haste on one wep, sophic on the other, speed everywhere else, probably stats chest, whatever the fuck rings
rune reworks killed the class for ke
used to require some brainpower
now it doesn't
tbh i would probably sim rings maybe weapons too
woyer
I mean
You say you want hard stuff
Yet you're playing warrior
None of these classes are hard
No class is hard
anyone got a tested pvp build that wanna share ?
I think arms warrior has a pbig skill cap in pvp, bladestorming cc, intervening blind, knowing good banner timings n such. There's a huge difference between a good warrior and a bad one just from that utility alone.
I used to main rogue and then mage though just bored of em now
idk man i think classes that are well scripted in pvp doesn't equate to the difficulty of playing moonlight sonata in an arena
Difficulty of the class comes from how many things you can do in arena
Not from rotation
And yet, most people fail even at rotation
^100%
wow pvp was never about doing ur damage proper, that should be automatic and that's your downtime
if you fail at doing damage there's a huge problem in your play
mhm
Now imagine you have a spec who's only win condition is damage and the rotation is 2 buttons
That's SL fury
Some things you have to either predict, or make impossible for enemy to do with just positioning
@fickle forge i wish squadov worked, id send that gamę against ret/warr i just sat behind pillar xD
i wish there was only one button that i could keep pressing to win in pvp
fury warrior has too many buttons
And their whole go was ruined
They tried to go on me so many times and got denied so hard
Knowing how to play out of disadvantageous positions is also a huge thing. Sometimes your healer has to trink when blind is still up, and now you need to play around them having that win condition.
Stuff like that is what makes a player
and is why pvp is so fun in the first place
I mean, best to avoid such stuff
But sometimes your dps just trinkets root solar Beam when he has 3 ways to break the root
That's just wow in general. Somehow this game's overall playerbase just barely improves.
: )
I swear there is no other game where the players are as bad as on here.
i just don't know why
i know right
Same lol
Fury easier, arguably better
and fury vs the other one no ?
ok, so for arm in honor vendor stuff
it's full haste ?
haste/versa and crit for ring ?
What about the nerfs coming to Fury now ?
The nerfs are why it's up for debate rn, and I'm running versa->crit->haste on my arms rn but I can't say it's best. Doing pwell with it, haven't tested haste stacking.
Versa > Crit > Haste
I feel like it might be good to stack haste on more items till a certain % but it needs testing
Yeah better gear will def fix it true
can't wait for arena to open man, bg / skirm spam is getting boring
just prayge healer evoker gets some tuning cause I don't wanna play in to dampening every game
Where do i find nerfs to fury?
Nvm. Found it!
@full quiver fnoob
cold steel hot blood 10% nerf, bloodbath and bloodthirst 1% up
it's more than that, more importantly slaughterhouse got nerfed
i mean it was pretty broken
so was just a matter of time
its still a good reduce, and it will be up alot
Doubt that
I'm gonna be nice and say you can push 3 rampages in 6 seconds, so you can enjoy 3 seconds of 36% MS now
It's a fat nerf
It’s probably going to be better to not play slaughterhouse and play with another class with a permanent ms
Fury back to having KFC and WW+fury as their only comps kappa
fury’s ms if it’s even going to have one should just be flat 25%
Let's stick to the facts, not what eventually could/should/might be.
What's the verdict on what we actually have in Arms and Fury after this tunning pass? In terms of Solo Shuffle and 3v3.
dmg
There is no verdict yet because the season hasn’t started
you can’t say what’s better until the meta actually develops
fury is triple F dog swamp ass tier
wrong
so wrong
wait did fury get nerfed
hook line and sinker
yes lmao
defs not trolling 
gottem
You have to be smoking crack to not see fury nerfs incoming
they better not
fury mains are smoking all the drugs
They already did
all of em at once
They biggest change was the ms nerf for sure tho
perma heal reduce? nah totally balanced 
fury mains really think perma 40% ms is fine lmao
fuck it, fury should just auto-win games
that way they dont even have to press buttons
the perfect spec
When a warrior rampages you, your account should be instantly banned
see a fury ur hp go - just by sight
watch fury mains defend it
they spent the last 2 weeks defending it
aCtUalLy iTs WeLl DeSiGnEd
What
huh?
fury is still op as fuck this week
nothing changed this week
tom hardy top text: that's bait
cant*
listen bro, I fuck with your beard no cap but you’re smoking crack
Is this the wrong class discord
Did I slip in havocs
Not being happy about one of your class specs being strong is weird
idc if fury is strong, I care that it’s current iteration is ridiculous
do u press ur buttons? or just press whirlwind? :lol
And broken beyond belief
nah i legit like fury, the current version is just omega cringe
rip wod fury
and trolling fury mains is the most fun ive had in ages
omega based
WOD FURY WAS SO BASED
yea fury is fun i like 2 button specs
remember guys, when fury pressed bt AND raging blow
LORD HAVE MERCY
imagine
remember when you’d win games because your sudden death crit with avatar recklessness
Wod fury was so prime
AND IT HAD MS
arms was shit in s1/2 of wod, but i was happy to play that version of fury
WITH WILD STRIKE
because it had actual buttons
arms was insane in wod hello
Rip wild strike
what the fuck
no it wasn’t
it was a decade ago okay
i have bad memory
this games shit
Arms was great the entire expansion
Have this clip where I 1 tapped a mage on 50% HP with Hpala sac on him
LF WOD TURBO
Great times

Do you remember 12 second kidneys LMAOOOOOO
I have very fond memories of wod man
wod gearing :)))
thank fuck wod gearing is back man
execute does damage, just not as much as one button bloodthirst 🙂
sucks to suck then huh @thorn escarp
why move finger for new button when can keep finger on one button
I hit a spicy 110k execute today 🥵
/cream
YOU LOVE TO SEE IT
no
pikaboo put me on YouTube
for blasting him with
A 95k spear of bastion
The other day
💀
that makes me happy
Weak, did 110k spear
NEVER LET THE ARMS DREAM DIR
This is now
cringe fury player doesnt get 100k exewcutes
We play arms bro
time to reroll
Exe for fury is a glorified Slam
What’s your fattest pvp ms this expansion
165k
slam for fury is a glorified slam
mine is a cool 180k B)
OH BABY
nope
Just executioners precision times 2
With double op
Sharpen
Colossus smash
Avatar
nerf arms pls 🙂 🙂 op class
and spear crit bonus
Arms isn’t feeling like it implodes for you? Lol
make d stance 20/20 again
I get 140k+ more often than you’d think
arms is fine with a healer, preferably resto druid so you can play more agressive
make d stance 100% damage reduction
nerf arms thanks
huh ?
First RPS and you're RIP in peace 😎 👍
Purge purge purge purge
It is what it is
just spell reflect purge
HOW ABOUT THIS CHEESE BOYS LMAO
duh
Evoker popping off anyways
tsg evoker might be nutty with the purge fire breath
it’s just battlelord 25% overpower buff with 15% imp overpower talent
With every cd
And a crit
and cloth armor
ya
U always go bladestorm
Bladestorm too good to drop ever
I can’t play wow without bladestorm
Should be in any build you do
no storm arms 💀

