this is what peak performance looks like
#pvp
onyx vale
crude bane
you have to apply 2 rampage then some1 other MS remove your stack
wooden grove
okay can these new arrivals stop acting like they are prophets this shit is crazy
shadow pollen
female... orc
summer tiger
prophets ?
ripe widget
its awful lol
crude bane
nov 04 / 2022 " new arrivals "
hazy isle
isov seethe mode on
go off sis
crude bane
anyway
shadow pollen
and unlike human players, I play it for the skin
are you 100% certain
copper hare
and unlike human players, I play it for the skin
racist
onyx vale
well yes, since orc is complete trash now that they gave their racial to everyone else
copper hare
Sry, I had to
onyx vale
😦
shadow pollen
why
onyx vale
summer tiger
Ngl I like the fact that orc isn't meta rn, we're almost at the point where you can freely pick race. Now dark iron dwarf is sussy tho sadge.
shadow pollen
for what purpose
onyx vale
cuz i'm a dumbass
shadow pollen
🫡
thick reef
been dwarf since vanilla
hazy isle
never will play a short race, some short ppl are cool but I would never wanna be that
onyx vale
and blood elves got nerfed to the ground not even cuz pvp
crude bane
im still BE
thick reef
love me stoneform
thick reef
and dwarves are units in plate
summer tiger
I mean, BE isn't too bad you can sometimes get BoP off kekw
crude bane
this is the cringe part @onyx vale
onyx vale
dwarves are the only good looking alliance race so that's cool
summer tiger
big disagree
hazy isle
because no one likes being a stocky manlet
wooden grove
that's the night elves lol
onyx vale
and the draenei
summer tiger
draenei as well ofc
onyx vale
... a friend told me
summer tiger
and now void elves ig ?
wooden grove
space goats
thick reef
i like being the faction that doesnt live in nothing but shitty mud huts
crude bane
there is an addon you can read bio lol ... some1 told me ....
thick reef
silvermoon doesnt look that great
onyx vale
crude bane
can we all agree orgrimmar is the biggest chad city ?
thick reef
no
crude bane
why
thick reef
shitty mud huts
onyx vale
orgrimmar is the best city cuz its the most compact one
everything is close to each other
and zuldazar is the worst cuz it was designed to be a raid
cuz ion can not stop himself from killing trolls
crude bane
boralus have good design 
copper hare
and zuldazar is the worst cuz it was designed to be a raid
zuldazar > oribos
thick reef
zuldazar would be fine with dragonriding
copper hare
any day
onyx vale
ahhh orivos
thick reef
boralus was primo
onyx vale
getting thrown off your mount every 5 seconds
ugly "robots" everywhere
what a nice city
crude bane
dont forget the part you jump like a hero in the best location in this game
THE MAW
WOOHOOOO
BEST DESIGN BLIZZARD
cyan fog
fury or arms for bgs
copper hare
wtf am I watching haha
crude bane
the audacity of linking this clip
cosmic shore
Dunno i think it's fun haha
wet scarab
"We know from testing that the Horde boat arrives first, and the Alliance boat arrives next. "
thanks for confirming our suspicions of bias blizz
cosmic shore
is that prot pvp I see?
is it something wrong ? it's a blast on open pvp
wet scarab
everyone here hates tank pvp because guardian druid is not a warrior spec
random fractal
nah but frost mage in pvp is actually the worst thing to play against
wtf
i am getting perma rooted
crude bane
yeah this is your sign to play arms
random fractal
i swear it wasnt like that in sl
crude bane
and gnome like my g @onyx vale
random fractal
junior kelp
the worst part about fighting frost mage isnt just the perma roots, its the fact that they dont do any fucking damage so you just get perma rooted for 3x as long as you should
random fractal
yeah lmfao
i wasnt able to los for like 30 seconds because heroic leap was on cd and i have a 99% slow on me
and he couldnt kill me and i couldnt reach him
tawdry totem
Any favorite YouTubers I should check out to set my pvp fury build?
wooden grove
mud no mud
tribal wedge
~~mud~~ ~~no~~ mud
wooden grove
kek
elfin surge
~~mud~~ ~~no~~ mud
???
elfin surge
yea
wet scarab
there was a good portion of early s3 when you just perpetually faced destro locks and frost mages and it was cancer just like any time those 2 specs are meta
copper hare
Destru always has at least one season during any expansion where it's not just good, but so insanely broken that everyone wants to quit the game
they do that on purpose 100%
steep atlas
Which specs do you guys think will pair best with fury in 3s?
brazen rock
dk, dh, feral, enhance (maybe), lock (cuz lock) hunter
spice hornet
just tired of those trinkets benefiting rogue mage the most
wheat jay
Shackle wasnt too bad to play against
Resonator was, especially when it could crit at the start xD
Also, I agree
Every new offensive trinket just gets abused by rmp
Cuz it just adds to their burst
And theyre setup Comp
fickle forge
Just so happens to be that there's usually a condition to those trinkets
Like an AoE or channeling effect
Who else but the comp with the best setups can take the best advantage of that
RMP never dies
copper hare
just tired of those trinkets benefiting rogue mage the most
its hopefully gone this expansion
wouldnt surprise me if they add shit again in s3 s4 xd
wheat crane
No bullshit items in sight
The bullshit is the qs we made along the way
I mean friends
wheat jay
Lmao
full quiver
Lol
gritty salmon
@full quiver I rerolled to fury
So as a honorary warrior, and main dk I can tell you, our community is hurting bad lmfao
full quiver
Lol
gritty salmon
Most of our r1s rerolled aswell
wet scarab
I liked maledict because it was the first time I felt op as a nelf warrior
full quiver
They'll roll back the DS
sharp meteor
Adding resolve was a crime
unranked and low mmr casters are balls so it was their attempt to fix that i think
wheat jay
Lmao i guess
open glacier
dafuq we do with honor now?
brazen rock
dafuq we do with honor now?
hold to upgrade conq for WQ farming lol
wheat jay
Remember chain harvest doing half enemy hp in dmg and topping the team as well?
open glacier
I'm full, no purpose on improving gear since its 411
hmm
swapping gear is lame indeed
true
sharp meteor
Remember chain harvest doing half enemy hp in dmg and topping the team as well?
sinful turb woo
gritty salmon
They'll roll back the DS
Its actually so bad that mes rerolled lmfao
sharp meteor
missin her
gritty salmon
I think the nerfs on ds was necessary but it was extremely overhanded
it was a 60 % overall nerf
and with dampening its worse
wheat jay
Dk was immortal
spice citrus
guys halp, what gems to buy for fury pvp
wheat jay
Precisely
gritty salmon
its a shit spec now
wheat jay
Dmg is still there afaik
wheat jay
Oh wait, limbs got nerfed too, right?
gritty salmon
It doesnt matter because dks just kite now
yea
So our flappy hands went from utility good
to just some shitty okay dps
brazen rock
limbs got destroyed
1 pull per cast per person
its good cuz that shit was beyond aids tbh
wheat jay
Tbh, limbs were cancer
gritty salmon
Most shit is cancer
brazen rock
forced movement is a special kind.
wheat jay
Depends
I prefer cancer sub rogue over cancer dk or fury warr
Cuz sub at least dies
And doesn't sit my ass doing pve rotation 24/7
While being unkiteable
gritty salmon
EH
Arms have had the spotlight for far to long
its time for fury to step into the light
brazen rock
lmao careful
gritty salmon
and for arms people to step back
gritty salmon
I know varaugh the arms people will cry about it
let them
Arms was the default for literally the last 4 expansions mate
Fury had a good 2nd half of shadowlands
and is good now thats it
wheat jay
Fury was beyond broken s3 and s4
wheat jay
While also being the easiest class in the game
full quiver
Well old survival
wheat jay
No spec should ever be broken
If something is broken, it should be insta nerfed
Doesn't matter what spec it is
Or how long its been bad or good
brazen rock
its fairly surprising Dk got hammered that hard and DH is untouched
wheat jay
Yet
undone pumice
either everything is broken or nothing is broken inshallah
wheat jay
either everything is broken or nothing is broken inshallah
If a nail sticks out, you gotta hammer it down
wheat jay
@full quiver
gritty salmon
its fairly surprising Dk got hammered that hard and DH is untouched
Its gonna get nerfed
But fury should have its moment
arms is fine now
it got buffed
wheat jay
It had its moment
brazen rock
still has massive survivability issues.
gritty salmon
Arms is very boring spec
wheat jay
No spec should have a moment where its miles above the rest
undone pumice
when do we replace fury warrior with gladiator warrior
wheat jay
Fury s3 should have gotten nerfed instantly
brazen rock
No spec should have a moment where its miles above the rest
destro end of every expac kekw
wheat jay
Ye, and should be nerfed
full quiver
<@250464245483962369>
Mine have grown a ton because I hit them 4x a week now lol
gritty salmon
No spec should have a moment where its miles above the rest
Fury is genuinely not miles above rst
calm your tits
full quiver
Up to 3 plates on seated calf raise
gritty salmon
Dh is better, literally three tank specs are better
Wrlock is better then fury
so is spriest
steep inlet
what the fuck
wheat jay
And they should also get nerfed
full quiver
Fury is best melee in game right now imo
undone pumice
i havent hit calfs ever since theyre just massive for some rrason
full quiver
No one plays dh right lmao
undone pumice
wheat jay
If any spec, of any class is too strong, nerf the fuck out of it
steep inlet
Are you on drugs mate
wheat jay
i havent hit calfs ever since theyre just massive for some rrason
If you were fat once, your calves are big
Proven by science
undone pumice
tru tru
gritty salmon
Everyone wants to nerf other specs but themselves
wheat jay
Be it Hunter, be it warrior, be it any spec
undone pumice
i have literal christmas turkeys hanging off my legs its digusting to look at
wheat jay
you prbably stayed quiet
I was quite vocal about it
Since I didnt like oneshots
But hey, you know better what i said, right? XD
gritty salmon
I mean, were assuming a lot about things here buddy 😄
The thing is fury good yea, is it extremely op and miles above the rest no
Come on man, even you know thats not true
I can name three specs that do it better then us
As for arms, its getting better now, and it got heavily buffed
wheat jay
And those specs are getting nerfed one by one
brazen rock
whats more funny is its not unrealistic for fury to get an ST buff because it aint doin that hot in pve rn
gritty salmon
whats more funny is its not unrealistic for fury to get an ST buff because it ai...
It will probably only be for pve
wheat jay
What i disliked about your opinion is "fury should have its time"
gritty salmon
if they do buff that
gritty salmon
What i disliked about your opinion is "fury should have its time"
Im saying compared to arms it absolutely should have
wheat jay
When no spec should have their time, all should be equally strong
gritty salmon
Fury was bad for like 3 expansions whole
arms is bad for 2 months and arms people whine about it
gritty salmon
Were talking about the idea of it having a time
Fury was a glasscannon
It was good dps horrible survability
wheat jay
Also, arms wasnt even bad s3 and s4
gritty salmon
Now it has good survivability
wheat jay
Was just A tier instead of S tier
wheat jay
Fair enough
gritty salmon
why cant we be happy for both specs
wheat jay
As I said before, all specs should be equal
gritty salmon
Yea thats not gonna happen
wheat jay
But wanting one to be the strongest is retarded
gritty salmon
Like im sorry, I know the spec in and out, it was not viable by any means in early shadowlands and to most extent bfa
wheat jay
Cuz that's just hoping for fotm to drop on your spec
copper hare
The thing is, take BFA or early shadowlands
fury was high a tier bfa season one
gritty salmon
fury was high a tier bfa season one
Eh, not really. It had a good start but once it became tuned with gear etc
copper hare
eh yeah it was
copper hare
bfa isn't SL, right?
gritty salmon
Yes but I said most extent BFA
onyx vale
all specs should be equal, but remember that mages are designed to be top tier in arena
gritty salmon
Lol it felt shit before the tier pieces
Yea but it was even worse thye had to outright buff fury dps with 20 %%
wheat jay
Then tier dropped and fury skyrocketed to s+++
copper hare
fury was super broken in s1 bfa until they nerfed bloodthirst pvp talent in s2, was just overshadowed by all dh and windwalkers
gritty salmon
Like they did, two buffs for fury early shadowlands
one which boosted it outright 15 % damage, and 10 %
This was before the MS
and tier sets and all that
The issue with fury for like the last expansions now, have been surviability
Its damage has always been decent
The reason why its so good now, is because its survivability isnt bad
What blizzard shouldnt do is literally nerf specs into unplayability
like they just did to fdks
wheat jay
I meaaaaaaan
gritty salmon
Thats not making the game equal, thats just making it worse.
Mate im telling you its unplayable.
wheat jay
Fury survivability in s3 and s4 wasnt any different
It was just BROKEN in terms of dmg
gritty salmon
Yes, but that was an exception to the rule
gritty salmon
Its damage was so broken that it actually managed to outpace the survibability
wheat jay
If you can do consistent 20k dps
gritty salmon
Yes but as I said, that also relied on the fact that the gear was tuned by then
People had more HPs one shots become rarer
because of larger healthpool, that helped fury a lot
copper hare
Survi didnt matter
Not really, giving fury another class that has stuns and utility so you can just pick impending victory by default made the survivability pretty broken
gritty salmon
Yes, hence why I said the survability and with the self heal its surviability is at its highest
copper hare
also 1.3 min cd on enrage was mental
runic musk
is fury the meta rn? I know murky waters at beginning of expac
gritty salmon
In comparison to arms yes, but it can change, were still awaiting the next 2-3 days, theres gonna be a big pvp patch that will most likely nerf shit @runic musk
Blizzard spoke of it
gritty salmon
Tbf you do have parry
But honestly this meta compared to shadowlands s1
isnt as bursty due to healthpools
and thank god for that
undone pumice
waiting for enha nerfand arms buffs so turbo returns to its natural habitat
tribal wedge
and thank god for that
really yes
gritty salmon
When I look back to it, while i enjoyed shadowlands s1 i realised how broken and shit it was
tribal wedge
feel like arms is at 1 survi buffs to be really good right now
gritty salmon
The amount of one shots, nukes etc
Arms always had survivability, except for this expansion, though I dont know why
tribal wedge
first week SL double rogue ❤️
gritty salmon
first week SL double rogue ❤️
Or when people couldnt figure out convoke for the first few weeks
lmfao
quartz spindle
Or when people couldnt figure out convoke for the first few weeks
How I reached 2400 for the first time 🙂
undone pumice
hey remember pre pre pre pre pre pre pre nerf echoing reprimand?
quartz spindle
Got smashed but Druid convoking in stealth, make a druid myself named "convokebrr" - instant 2400
gritty salmon
Got smashed but Druid convoking in stealth, make a druid myself named "convokebr...
yep
Though am i the only one who thinks warlocks are insane right now
How the fuck are they so tanky
copper hare
why would you be the only one when everyone is complaining
tribal wedge
Though am i the only one who thinks warlocks are insane right now
you don't
copper hare
There is not a single fucking reason for locks to have 100k more hps than any other spec in this game
by default
gritty salmon
There is not a single fucking reason for locks to have 100k more hps than any ot...
I mean its not just that
copper hare
I don't understand this kind of "class fantasy"
gritty salmon
but they have shields and absorbs
undone pumice
There is not a single fucking reason for locks to have 100k more hps than any ot...
they have like 150k more hp tho no?
full quiver
I don't understand this kind of "class fantasy"
It's from back when they had to use life tap
And has just stayed in thr game since lmao
undone pumice
warlock class fantasy is a master of shadow and fel and chaos magic, summoning demons, channeling the twisting nether and overwhelming you with sheer numbers as demo, disenchanting you as destro, and giving you cancer with afflock
not
hehehaha i have 500k hp
gritty salmon
Right now the specs i struggle with is warlocks and spriests
Dhs are strong but they can be taken
sub rougues are just annoying as hell
tribal wedge
lot of words, when we are just big dude hitting other with steel stick
stuck mulch
Right now the specs i struggle with is warlocks and spriests
dude fuck spriest god damn they hurt
copper hare
Nerf their fucking hp so they are equal to everyone else and their absorb and healing will be in line because it's all percentage based
quartz spindle
Tbh I hate that they can dodge Odyn Fury.
stuck mulch
should be named skovalds grace then noone can dodge it
gritty salmon
It could be worse we could be playing arcane mage
I feel bad for those guys
They exist?
undone pumice
pretty sure arcane is best mage spec rn?
gritty salmon
THey nerfed it
gritty salmon
They will most likely nerf them ne t pvp patch
its coming in like a few days
i think
Thats my copium or hopium right now
undone pumice
my hopium is fury gets obliterated in the greatest reckoning known to man, greater than the yi reckoning of s12, the arms recoking of s3 sl, greater reckoning than the genji nerfs of may 2016
gritty salmon
my hopium is fury gets obliterated in the greatest reckoning known to man, great...
stop
Arms people
You gotta stop your salting
tribal wedge
my hopium is fury gets obliterated in the greatest reckoning known to man, great...
i sign, but give back ignore pain for arms or revert dstance nerf
gritty salmon
Stand back
tribal wedge
100/100 big turtle move
onyx vale
i wonder why people think if fury gets fucked arms will get giga buffed
undone pumice
i dont wnt arms buffs i want fury nerfs
onyx vale
they could also just fuck fury and leave arms as it is
quartz spindle
i dont wnt arms buffs i want fury nerfs
Whats nerfes for fury?
undone pumice
revomed from game
onyx vale
my idea was to remove ms from fury, dh and every spec in the game that isn't called " arms "
undone pumice
it scalled mortal strike not rampage
onyx vale
tell that to monks
gritty salmon
An arms supremacist
gritty salmon
i wonder why people think if fury gets fucked arms will get giga buffed
People be hating fury are arms people
sad
undone pumice
shut up hunter
wheat jay
No fuck you
undone pumice
pls do
gritty salmon
Imagine when the pvp patch releases and they buff fury in pvp @undone pumice
What do you do
wheat jay
Play fury?
undone pumice
prot
undone pumice
yea
gritty salmon
So what
wheat jay
Its more braindead than bm Hunter
So we don't like the easiest shit being the strongest
clever mango
2 button spec, very boring
wheat jay
That's all there is to it
Cuz plenty of noobs get carried by their broken spec when they only press one button
Or two
Dont do cc
Dont trade cooldowns
Dont position well
tribal wedge
Its more braindead than bm Hunter
annihilator fury is surely the retardest spe i have ever seen on this game
wheat jay
Cuz the spec is so strong they dont need to do any of that
gritty salmon
Im fine with that tbh
wheat jay
Well, be fine then
gritty salmon
Let them have their fun
wheat jay
Ye they can have their fun
brazen rock
Cuz plenty of noobs get carried by their broken spec when they only press one bu...
hey buddy i have to charge in the opener alright
3 buttons
wheat jay
As can every spec
And should every spec
But no spec should be in some special spotlight
Cuz that's retarded
That's praying for easy rating due to playing busted spec
gritty salmon
But its not really in aspecial spotlight when there are several specs doing better
wheat jay
Then those should get nerfed too
gritty salmon
Its an easy spec let it be an easy spec, there aremany games out there who are like that
wheat jay
One thing being broken doesnt mean that there should be others
copper hare
yeah but then you realise that pvp is a mini game
gritty salmon
I dont get this idea that there needs to be this complex positioning and what not
were not playing hoi4
wheat jay
Its an expression of skill
gritty salmon
Were playing a section of the game thats dying out
wheat jay
Fury for example doesnt have that
gritty salmon
And making it more complex will only make it worse
Wow used to be extremely simple talent wise etc
gritty salmon
Yea but I dont think wanting a system where every spec is equal will work
nor is it feasible
That has never happened in blizzard history
thats why we have tier lists
copper hare
you forget that we're still playing an mmo
wheat jay
It won't work, that is impossible, thus specs should be balanced very often
copper hare
if you want a game where everyone is equal go play csgo
wheat jay
To make the game as fair as possible
But that won't happen either
Cuz its a minigame in wow
gritty salmon
I understand your point, but imo I think this expansion atleast so far has been more balanced then say shadowlands or bfa
copper hare
pve is the main aspect of wow and even there it's hard to keep a good balance. How do you expect something like that in pvp
wheat jay
Probably
Still, no spec should be in the spotlight just because it hasn't been in a while
And fury is an obnoxious piece of shit spec on top of that
brazen rock
locks hate everything when they aren't in their own tier of broken
copper hare
and rogues only hate themself
wheat jay
locks hate everything when they aren't in their own tier of broken
I meaaaaaan
Arms warrs?
Arms warriors are the biggest whiny bitches in pvp community
Y'all are like balance druids in pve
brazen rock
yeah arms war purists lash out like bitchy high school girls when they aren't t1
copper hare
Agree, I see it here everyday
onyx vale
honestly dragonflight fury's gameplay isn't bad on some aspects, double odyn's fury and dragon roar alongside reckless abandon gives the spec some depth
its annihilator that makes the spec completly brain dead
gritty salmon
yeah arms war purists lash out like bitchy high school girls when they aren't t1
literally this
im sorry but this is 100 % true
onyx vale
and the reduction to bloodthirst's cd of deft experience making you spam 1 button
gritty salmon
Like genuinely from experience the people who usually bitch about fury is arms
onyx vale
and no arms warriors aren't the biggest crying bitches, that's ret paladins
wheat jay
No
onyx vale
they never stop crying
wheat jay
Arms warriors
onyx vale
even when they are broken
wheat jay
S3 starts
Arms warriors in shambles over small, very deserved dstance nerf
FUCKING SHAMBLES
onyx vale
i'm not sure it was a small nerf
undone pumice
le wheelchair class but it hits with the power of a fucking semitruck
onyx vale
arms warriors bitch a lot but when the spec is broken they don't cry
ret players always cry even when the spec is broken cuz they want the mobility of dh
on top of their kit
wheat jay
Lol
onyx vale
so rets will always be number 1
mystic barn
ok and
wheat jay
It was a small nerf
Bigger nerf was loss of ignore pain
But they still cry over deserved dstance nerf
gritty salmon
arms warriors bitch a lot but when the spec is broken they don't cry
Its funny because arms is almost always op and when they arent
its like this
wheat jay
3rd season of crying
rigid spruce
Whats the go to this patch? Arms or fury for pvp?
onyx vale
fury
mystic barn
prot
copper hare
Its funny because arms is almost always op and when they arent
it's pretty much like destru
gritty salmon
Most likely fury but wait for the next pvp patch @rigid spruce
its coming in like 2-3 days
copper hare
either meh or broken
onyx vale
Ww monk is the best arms warrior, highly recommended
rigid spruce
Thanks! Warrior has felt REALLY strong in BGs, mediocre in arena skirmish
copper hare
I mean, fury healing is strong but in bgs against semi geared people it definitely looks op, while probably being in line against equal geared players
will see once season is out
I don't think they will nerf fury for now
gritty salmon
@copper hare Like i understand people not liking op classes, but in terms of relativity Fury is not as op as many other specs
I would rather 100 % face a fury warrior then say a warlock or spriest
aven a dh
brazen rock
<@201847446299607041> Like i understand people not liking op classes, but in te...
people get tilted because it has a simple damage rotation and 40% ms
gritty salmon
in arena that is
onyx vale
what do you mean, even a dh, dh is probably the strongest melee right now
lean viper
which enchants for weapon?
copper hare
probably primary stat or versa I guess
spice hornet
Dh counters themselves when they do cooked stuff like blur air
copper hare
Depends if they all have the same uptime
dont spend too much gold before your conquest weapon :<
full quiver
Dh counters themselves when they do cooked stuff like blur air
Yeah that gives u a 15s window to kill em
😎
spice hornet
Yeh somrthing has to be done about that
copper hare
what do you mean, even a dh, dh is probably the strongest melee right now
probably, maybe, I think rogue flys under the radar
Whenever I see r1 wargames with rogue it looks absolute disgusting
onyx vale
also remove monks legs
feral is also super strong and since nobody plays it, it probably won't be nerfed
gritty salmon
Yea sub rogues are something
I put it this way
a good subrougue is better then a good dh
spice hornet
Sub is insanely broken
copper hare
so is assa
spice hornet
Season needs to start so we can see
waxen knot
Casters in shambles
wet scarab
Lol re the earlier point, arms warriors aren’t crying for the most part about the nerfs to their spec, they just hate having to play an unga bunga spammy one button spec because it’s more suited for DH enjoyers
waxen knot
Chad spec tbh
onyx vale
hey, dh in dragonflight has way more buttons to press than annihilator fury
hoary solstice
How much better is fury over arms atm?
onyx vale
hoary solstice
like omega better or just a bit better
onyx vale
same damage, better mortal strike and 100 times the tankiness
hoary solstice
roger roger
onyx vale
wheat crane
feral is also super strong and since nobody plays it, it probably won't be nerfe...
I actually wqnt to lowkey level mine, bleed build is fun to play
And it lowkey SHREDS
Get it
Shred
copper hare
I'm too stupid to play feral in general
wheat crane
I swear as soon as you get the opener down its braindead easy
spice hornet
Yeah but if you start playin feral
You turn sus
Feral players
On some weird shit
copper hare
just no reason to pick spear anymore into dk
they have double deaths advanced baseline now xd
brazen rock
alot of chicken copers, rdruid lifers that gatekeep the class, and feral druid lifers that "all" know eachother on a first name basis
brazen rock
i played rdruid for 11 years, trust me i know
brazen rock
going from 1000 keybinds to fury is beyond relaxing
wheat crane
What you want me to say lmao
full quiver
I played feral for a season and that pvp channel is an incel cesspool
wheat crane
Im gonna wind up leveling and gearing warr dh lock druid
full quiver
Worst disc channel I've ever been in lmao
onyx vale
the dh discord is also a weird place
copper hare
You don't take double DA normally
is there a big trade off when you take it
onyx vale
maybe it's something to do with wearing leather?
rare ibex
Warrior peeps are generally nice.. at least as long as I've been playing.
copper hare
Warrior peeps are generally nice.. at least as long as I've been playing.
The reason it's not even moderated and people are still this chill with eachother says a lot tbh
raw summit
Post bench got pvp nuked once
copper hare
the last time I've seen a moderator stepping in was mud vs dekel lol
rare ibex
The reason it's not even moderated and people are still this chill with eachothe...
It will be utopia when we finally transition into a pin-less society.
brazen rock
The reason it's not even moderated and people are still this chill with eachothe...
true just step away when arms purists show up
raw summit
Dekel clears
rare ibex
When I first came into this Discord in late BFA, the #fury channel was basically just 15-20 bodybuilders comparing lifts.. for weeks.
wet scarab
I learned a lot from this disc all of SL in both the arms and pvp channels, fury turns a bit compare your biceps sometimes but is generally pretty chill and doesn't deserve its rep
prot are your older brothers who work in neurosurgery
and are adults somehow
waxen knot
Flex Friday?
wheat crane
Actually down for flex fridays tbh
wet scarab
all in all it's far better and more active than other class discords which tend to fluctuate a lot based on fotm and they spend half the time fending off influxes of people who are trying to figure out a spec on the fly with no prior knowledge of the class
like the priest discs are always a weird elitist place
copper hare
I mean war is probably still the most played class in this game right
wet scarab
the warlock one suffers a lot from fotm rerollers even though the original crew that run it are very good
waxen knot
warlock disc is based
wheat crane
I mean war is probably still the most played class in this game right
Think its paladin
Overall
waxen knot
It’s Druid and hunter right
rare ibex
I actually tried a lock during prepatch. I asked which spec was generally more viable in M+. Got absolutely shut down and almost banned. Needless to say I dropped that Discord.
wheat crane
Lmfao love to see it.
waxen knot
It’s very cliquish
onyx vale
its the fel boys
waxen knot
This is prob the best channel I’ve seen. I usually just get flamed
copper hare
what to gear next, dh or second war? 
onyx vale
they are full of malice
wet scarab
it is but it has to be because every other season they have an influx of a thousand new people asking the same question about when to chaos bolt and when to rain of fire
waxen knot
Dh is cool I enjoy it
wet scarab
warrior pve disc is shockingly patient with newcomers
waxen knot
Mostly for double jump
wet scarab
I think it takes a certain level of chad to play the only class without magical abilities in a fantasy MMO
wheat crane
what to gear next, dh or second war? <:garms:917120195527598201>
Probably just go 2nd warrior, are you seriously gonna play anything else?
copper hare
ye shaman!
waxen knot
Be like Mud, have 10 warriors
wheat crane
Im literally just leveling gearing my alts and i know im just gonna shelf them q month in
patent musk
I played feral for a season and that pvp channel is an incel cesspool
Paladins one is a cryingatorium all the time xD
rare ibex
Well you need at least two... one for hippo mount and one for all of the good vicious horde mounts.
somber comet
Paladins shouldn't be allowed to talk to people without supervision.
Especially Ret.
wheat crane
Paladins one is a cryingatorium all the time xD
I got permabanned from the pally discord
rare ibex
Paladin... most persecuted class in history.
wheat crane
Still think i was right
wet scarab
in general the impression you get from the majority of warrior disc enjoyers is that they are like the bro that spots you when you're about to do an unadvisedly heavy lift
patent musk
I got permabanned from the pally discord
what did you said? xD
somber comet
The original channel with its pins got deleted.
waxen knot
I’ll spot you and help you lift your bench if you need
wet scarab
Well you need at least two... one for hippo mount and one for all of the good vi...
you get the equivalent faction amount when you get one now iirc
wheat crane
what did you said? xD
It was like when the #metoo blizzard walk outs were a thing the fembot mods and their white knights were blasting all the channels
Literally just said dont post that in the pvp channel
Put it in announcements
Started a war
wet scarab
Im literally just leveling gearing my alts and i know im just gonna shelf them q...
I tried leveling my main alts, lock and mage, and just couldnt do the climb again so quickly
rare ibex
you get the equivalent faction amount when you get one now iirc
Yeah but like... the hippo mount equiv is the clefthoof.. and ain't nobody think that's cute.
wet scarab
but the clefthoofs are such good bois and they try so hard
copper hare
I just hope the glad mount won't just be a skin, I mean surely it will be a normal mount aswell right
rare ibex
They take up 3/4 of my screen... and I'm undead and not even Tauren.
wet scarab
they already said what they were
copper hare
But they said in one of maximum interviews that they thinking about keeping some DF stuff for after dragonflight
normal mounting is feels like ass now, lets be honest
wet scarab
from the blue post yesterday:
Rewards
Title: Crimson Gladiator
Mount: Crimson’s Gladiator’s Drake
Dragonriding Appearance: Highland Drake: Embodiment of the Crimson Gladiator
New Vicious mounts–Alliance and Horde-themed Sabertooth
New Weapon Illusion
New Pennant
New Tabard and Cloak
The Weapon Illusion, Pennant, Tabard, and Cloak will be updated and added in a future content patch before the end of Season 1.
rare ibex
Anyone here have a decent omnicd list for arenas? Still trying to learn decent counter play.
sharp meteor
sharp meteor
I just hope the glad mount won't just be a skin, I mean surely it will be a norm...
Holinka said that you'd get both.
copper hare
from the blue post yesterday:
Rewards
Title: Crimson Gladiator
Mount: Crimson’s ...
kk, I've only seen the datamined skin appearance before
ty
sharp meteor
A dragonriding skin, and then the normal "mount".
wet scarab
honestly the best pvp change they made is the ability to buy the banner you can plant on dead players from the bloody coin vendor
onyx vale
I didn't know ret players knew how to talk
waxen knot
Yes
onyx vale
i thought they were just randomly hitting their keyboard, like their gameplay
waxen knot
honestly the best pvp change they made is the ability to buy the banner you can ...
Yes
wet scarab
you can't divine storm irl unfortunately
copper hare
honestly the best pvp change they made is the ability to buy the banner you can ...
does it do anything, or just for disrespect purposes
wet scarab
purely for toxicity reasons which is why it's bis
wheat crane
Anyone here have a decent omnicd list for arenas? Still trying to learn decent ...
Omnibar? Yea i strip it down to just stuns and big cds
copper hare
fair enough, I miss the old /spit though
wheat crane
Take off interrupts
copper hare
these days I always go for /question
somber comet
i thought they were just randomly hitting their keyboard, like their gameplay
It's usually subtly offensive things about specific groups
And slurs.
Followed by a victim mentality.
Then frothing.
And then anime ahegao profile pics.
patent musk
woke generation warriors..... so funny xD
wet scarab
around 70% of ret paladins are the equivalent of teenage CoD players, whether the type prone to using racial slurs and mom insults or the reformed woke ones
both equally insufferable
patent musk
around 70% of ret paladins are the equivalent of teenage CoD players, whether th...
i play Ret and im an old fuck
wet scarab
30%er
patent musk
Burning Crusade old pally fucker
wet scarab
I've generally found prot paladins to be older types that are completely oblivious to how tilting their spec is to everyone else
wet scarab
Burning Crusade old pally fucker
oh man my best friend in vanilla was a paladin I quested with in TBC ;_;
good old days
patent musk
and then play Prot Warrior in normal BG and tilt the fuck of everyone hahahaha
you prot get the flag!!!! thats your job!, what you talking about bitch i hit harder than you hjahahahaha
wet scarab
I tried arena with him the first time I did it
patent musk
tilt people in you team and the other is golden
when they are jerk of little bitches, when they are nice i dont tilt them
copper hare
you prot get the flag!!!! thats your job!, what you talking about bitch i hit ha...
I literally got flamed by a 1.7 max xp guy how I will never reach something in pvp when I play prot
patent musk
I literally got flamed by a 1.7 max xp guy how I will never reach something in p...
jajajaja so funny the little kids xD
copper hare
Meh, I think I just wait for comp stomp to gear all my alts
already this month so gg
wooden grove
they nerf fury everyone goes prot lmao
patent musk
Shield Charge is fun, hits like a drunk uncle
wet scarab
doesn't it interrupt or stun as well too?
brazen rock
it stuns, 4 seconds on primary target
im not a disgusting prot pvper but in pve I've had it crit for north of 90k
wet scarab
it is pretty tilting to 1v1 in open world
patent musk
in pvp i think i hit one for 80k crit
wet scarab
every time you burst they have some sort of stun
brazen rock
they do eventually die and they really can't ever kill you (as fury)
wet scarab
yeah they never actually kill you even if you're arms because it takes so long impending victory is back up
patent musk
im main Arms and Ret so im a masoquist
wet scarab
multiboxing in your future
ruby mortar
Why does Arms have to be so fragile, damage feels lit but jesus I just die so fast compared to Fury 😦
wet scarab
you're still in a honeymoon period where people in arena don't think you do damage so you'll probably be second prio target
ruby mortar
It is funny when people don't train me or peel me and I just chop heads off
patent musk
they think oh is an Arms, leave him alone is shit and then arms and legs fly everywhere
wet scarab
not many people switched from fury even after the buffs so they aren't prepared for those gnarly mortal strikes
patent musk
SS + Bladestorms + Unhinged is gnarly
need to set up doble overpower first and then BOOM
you see 3 fuckers kissing the ground
ruby mortar
Yeah I fucking love watching huge 60k chunks just disappearing with unhinged bladestorm
but then a DH glances at me
patent musk
and if i die i dont care cause i take 3 assholes with me xD
ruby mortar
And my screen goes grey
cinder thorn
patent musk
fuck i cant find draconium anywhere!!!
turbid ember
Anyone know how I get "randomly" put into PVP mode when questing on my alt? I was attacking a boss then all of a sudden alliance can attack me. I have warmode off
craggy socket
i see the pin nvm ty
patent musk
Anyone know how I get "randomly" put into PVP mode when questing on my alt? I wa...
there´s pvp areas regardless i think
wet scarab
actually a brilliant solution for faction imbalance
turbid ember
I don't think that was it, I was in the Dragonflight Ring of Blood quest area. They weren't flagged to start then when the boss got to like 25% health they were targetable
steel cobalt
build
patent musk
how da fuck i can put an craftorder?
copper hare
You look up the crafting order npc, you chose the item you want, look up whatever mats you need, get them (preferably higher star mats if you want it to be more itemlevel, doesnt really matter for the pvp item) and then you can chose between personal, guild and public order
Then just chose public order for the pvp item, put like a 2-3 fee in it for people and then wait until someone makes it
pearl prism
yep, and higher public order increases happiness and growth
Low public order leads to declining growth and sometimes a rebellion
patent musk
so in the npc not the working table?
copper hare
when you click the npc it first looks like the auction house thing
patent musk
ty
copper hare
Specially the plate stuff costs nothing, I think star 1 mats cost like 5k, it's silly
sharp meteor
Just do this with the boots. It'll cost like 15k then tip a few hundred and it shouldn't take long for somebody to craft it.
sharp meteor
Avoidance is more of a pve stat as there's more aoe damage, like a few percent off a boss pulse in high keys or bleeding edge raiding helps a lot. In PvP most stuff isn't aoe.
timid kiln
so leech or speed?
sharp meteor
Could probably find stuff where Avoidance is better, like maybe into windwalkers as it'd reduce both fists and crane kick(?), and it's not like you can kite them
but in general I'd just go speed on everything, yeah.
coarse dagger
I like speed. The better we stick the better we are.
sharp meteor
Yep. It doesn't help too much in the statcheck but it's not like 1% leech is going to swing games.
copper hare
enchants are really weird this expansion
brazen rock
str/vers procs
timid kiln
ya just buying the cheap shit atm
sharp meteor
wait for season for prices to low, atm are insane
prices probably go up on tuesday lmao
will def dump over the next few days and weeks but
could spike on start as everybody does their last minute shopping for consumables
low sparrow
wooden grove
2 good, 4 meh
rare ibex
are the cobalt rings still worth? if so, which one?
brazen rock
no
coarse dagger
They got nerfed by 65% in PvP.
rare ibex
so its like a 30k absorb shield now instead of 80k?
brazen rock
26k ish
sharp meteor
Tank one might be worthwhile but if it's played it'll probably get another nerf.
rare ibex
Tank one is the absorb?
brazen rock
Yes
It essentially buys you 1 global from 1 dps in an opener
assuming it procs (2ppm)
patent musk
the ring is gonna be nerfed to the ground one more time, im sure, they dont want pve thing in pvp, i hope
copper hare
They got nerfed by 65% in PvP.
is there a blue post
rotund thunder
thick reef
Pretty sure we get tier on pvp gear, unless they changed it from SL
In which case yeah
sharp meteor
Tier has set stats again, I think.
It'll probably just be the pieces with the least crit for Fury.
Then mastery or crit depending on preferences for Arms.
pearl prism
tried out arms, now going back to fury. Anyone able to tell me ideal opening rotation as fury using MUD's build in pins?
Charge > hamstring (maybe) > storm bolt > ....?
crimson sentinel
yo are fury warriors sick in dragonflight or what?
sharp meteor
Good and easy. Might be on the chopping block for nerfs but for now it's a cozy time.
crimson sentinel
what needs nerfing?
sharp meteor
Bloodthirst build is so much healing.
crimson sentinel
do I have enough time to level up and gear a fury war before next week?
copper hare
You can do both in 2 days if you have time xd
sharp meteor
do I have enough time to level up and gear a fury war before next week?
You could probably level and bis two chars in that time.,
It's so fast right now.
pearl prism
I charge > stormbolt mid charge > swifty macro > zug zug
whats your swift macro?
bright flume
you guys think use trinket is better than chance on hit for fury?
i macro with my avatar and reckless for big damage
but we hit pretty quick i wonder how the chance on hit goes
sharp meteor
Insignia is throughput badge is just bigger goes
idk right now I'd play badge though
as it's haste
versus the conq one which is generally only crit
thick reef
whats the best race for Ally wars btw?
I'm Human atm
median shuttle
i believe they both haste
Not conq ones
thick reef
Because Human Spirit
bright flume
oh the conquest ones gotcha
median shuttle
For now badge is probably better
bright flume
yeh i feel like badge is good
im race changing to orc tonight
so ill macro that racial in with avatar reck and badge
big dk damage inc
sharp meteor
i believe they both haste
i said generally conq is static crit for badge
also don't have reck bound into avatar
late nacelle
anyone know if engineering tinkers work in arena?
sharp meteor
or at least make sure to have them also bound apart
median shuttle
Play arms for bigger dmg
bright flume
yeah i can reck without using my burst macro
sharp meteor
important thing is ava for root break
bright flume
i havent found much use for using reck by itself though
sharp meteor
although ig you have bloodrage but still
bright flume
like if im bursting why not burst with extra 20% crit chance
or am i missing something
does avatar just break roots not make immune?
and do u macro badge with avatar?
severe skiff
shouldn't since you will sometimes use avatar for mobility over burst
sharp meteor
you're always using them together
just make sure to have ava by itself to break roots
if you're getting cc'd as/before bursting
bright flume
gotcha
that makes sense
save a few seconds on the others to get to target
buying a new mouse with some more buttons on side tomorrow
should make life easier
ty
lean burrow
is there difference between using odyn's fury as root break or avatar?
avatar is supposedly more valuable for damage
why use it for roots instead of odyns fury?
do we still pick bloodrage if we got avatar now?
sorry if too many questions
sharp meteor
<:garms:917120195527598201> do we still pick bloodrage if we got avatar now?
bloodrage feels good into almost everything
there's always a giant slow/root to break
and even if not then it's still excellent rage gen
(also off global)
bright flume
how to beat mages? seem to just get kited and run out of charges / leaps?
copper hare
At first I said and thought that gnome is pretty pointless for fury since we have blood rage, but honestly, when I look at a few classes gnome racial lines up with a couple of roots, sp 1 min, all shaman specs now have 1 min root, every second steel trap. Gnome might me really valuable to gain another pvp talent instead of blood rage
thick reef
how to beat mages? seem to just get kited and run out of charges / leaps?
Idk, I've never had a problem sticking to a Mage, but I also take Death Sentence into that MU
2 Charges, Leap, Death Sentence on Sudden Death procs/Execute Phase
bright flume
oh your arms
thick reef
I'm fury
bright flume
so same as me
2 charges and a leap
dont arcane mages have like 4 ways to move across map?
thick reef
If you are properly applying your CCs and running Death Sentence, you should not have an issue sticking to them
bright flume
i dont run death sentence
thick reef
You should
crimson sentinel
Yo do we think fury will be good in solo shuffle?
bright flume
yeah i did before and ur right it felt alot better in arena
thick reef
Slaughter, Rage & Flex iirc
I'd have to log in to check tbh
But DS on casters is good
thick reef
Execute & Charge really helps with the pull
thick reef
Yo do we think fury will be good in solo shuffle?
Yes
bright flume
i was thinking only when they low it would work but every time execute procs yeh?
thick reef
Sudden Death procs and Execute range
And Heroic Throw will trigger Sudden Death
Well, chance to anyway
bright flume
awesome cheers
thick reef
Also I sometimes will chuck a Storm Bolt just to gap close
But that's also if I'm lining up a nuke macro
bright flume
yeh i tried that too just didnt work hes trinket was still up
it was a 2v1 in arena so i ran outta cds basically
thick reef
That certainly doesn't help
thick reef
What race are you?
bright flume
ill have to look up arcane mage and learn what they do