which enchants yall are using? they are all so expensive
#pvp
normal blaze
outer elk
I went bs/mining to try and make them, but I've sorta stalled not being able to figure out where to get the recipes haha
wheat crane
isnt comp stomp soon?
stuck mulch
whats the comp for warr gonna look like in ur opinions? DH/WAR/drac?
drowsy wasp
Comp stomp is in Jan
high abyss
Abom Limb is considered magic right? Is it worth popping reflect or literally just fuck off to egypt when they use it? (unless parry to get full health?)
lean burrow
Reflect for 20% magic wall
stiff dust
any arm warrior build ? or still not
wheat crane
LOL
Yea just hit 70 the other day finally jumped into dome bgs
Completely unplayable lmao
stiff dust
yup u need to farm honor
pretty quick tbh, even when i lost its like 250-300honor per bg
stiff dust
Focus trinket first
tribal wedge
Trinket --> weapon --> rest
outer elk
yeah, trinks first, then weapon, each piece massively improves your survivability, by the end you're just a beast
mint tinsel
Abom Limb is considered magic right? Is it worth popping reflect or literally ju...
Jump and reflect since you can deflect grip
high abyss
@mint tinsel Makes sense, especially since it can only grip you once now too
dawn mirage
how is warr looking for pvp this season? can we make it to glad?
mint tinsel
<@404506397653336064> Makes sense, especially since it can only grip you once no...
No you deflect the death grip idk about the Abom pull tbh
high abyss
@bronze nexus either way 20% wall is nice, I assumed it was magic but wanted to confirm. I suppose if they use grip they just cancel our wall though if it deflects
fresh horizon
whats the comp for warr gonna look like in ur opinions? DH/WAR/drac?
I think Kitty Cleave is going to be disgusting
bronze nexus
mint tinsel
The wall stays for the duration after the deflect or reflect is eaten
high abyss
Really? Is that new?
mint tinsel
Recently newish it was an update sometime before DF launched they added 2 effects to SR the reflect and the wall so once reflect is used wall stays for the remaining time
elfin surge
how is warr looking for pvp this season? can we make it to glad?
Fury high A tier melee
Arms is... 
💀
high abyss
Good to know
thick reef
hows everyone today
proud sparrow
Fury high A tier melee
Arms is... <:critcake:984549832511344640> 💀
Even after todays buff?
elfin surge
arms might do alright in team 3s but will struggle hard in solo queue and 2s.
drowsy wasp
are we kinda forced to farm cobalt assembly
tribal wedge
are we kinda forced to farm cobalt assembly
What for?
brazen rock
its beyond broken and with how pro-active blizz is being, doubtful it lasts into s1 more than a few days
but yes rn you have to run it
drowsy wasp
i dont want blizzard to nerf the cobalt farm while letting that ring continue in pvp
brazen rock
praise wrecking throw however. One shots it most times
stuck mulch
i see ppl use that in pvp
yea for bgs etc, doubt it will work in rated
carmine olive
guys are the bgs stable again or alliance still wreaking?
tribal wedge
Still
junior kelp
the better team wins
lament bone
So why is Ally so much better in BGs? At least thats my experience. Lost several as Horde went merc and won like 5 straight
carmine olive
orc is dead thats why
junior kelp
because ally is betta
lament bone
Feels bad
carmine olive
so sweaty people changed to Nelf/human
graceful ginkgo
weary quartz
finally free - no more orcs anymore! i can race change all of my 9 orcs now 
carmine olive
to nelf/human
weary quartz
ofc 
carmine olive
all praise the new orc
lament bone
Im too old. I dont have the reflexes for shadowmeld.
carmine olive
its time to rework racials again
warm portal
Spoken like a true orc
carmine olive
i wish people would choose whatever they like
weary quartz
Im too old. I dont have the reflexes for shadowmeld.
just macro it. ez win
just screw racials altogether...
mint tinsel
Did they change orc racial or something?
weary quartz
now that tauren rogues are a thing, and my troll druid still doesn't wear shoes ...
lament bone
Tauren rogues are hilarious. I fought one in a BG today and it took me a sec to process it
wooden grove
Did they change orc racial or something?
They put items in the game including the PvP set bonus that negate orcs op ass racial
mint tinsel
So orc racial doesn’t stack with the pvp set bonus?
lament bone
Sadly no
mint tinsel
Well that’s a bit cringe tbh but whatever
onyx vale
orcs not being so broken is good
junior kelp
orc players were carried for so long
onyx vale
now remove all racials from rated pvp
but remove humans first, i hate people playing human " for the skin "
weary quartz
human female has nice animations tho
undone pumice
orc players were carried for so long
you say that like not having hardiness is the reason not a lot of glads are non orc
carmine olive
undone pumice
surely having 2 dmg trinkets is fair and balanced
carmine olive
i think human is now the best right?
undone pumice
surely just being flat out stunned less is fair and balanced
wheat crane
nah prob did and reg dwarf above it
undone pumice
dark iron and reg dwarf is best i think
wheat crane
and tauren for a huge penis
onyx vale
ofc you must endure the mental pain of playing a disgusting fucking gnome
weary quartz
i think human is now the best right?
female gnome with pink hair.
carmine olive
no
undone pumice
playing gnome and warrior at the same time doesnt mix
carmine olive
they need to delete racial, vulperas and gnomes
undone pumice
you are feeble and pudgy diaperbaby while also being an unchaines god of wrath and master of melee combat
junior kelp
you say that like not having hardiness is the reason not a lot of glads are non ...
obviously the curve evens out at the ends. the best players are the best players regardless of what race they are playing
undone pumice
vulpera is ok i can imagine them savagely mauling your cock and balls off
they get the sorta gay stamp from me
onyx vale
someone knows vulpera rp I see
carmine olive
i see a vulperat
subtle pike
arms viable? 
junior kelp
arms viable? <:sadge:820202363359854633>
you dont want the answer
just play what makes u happy 
junior kelp
apparently it does pretty good damage, but you just cant survive anything so its not worth playing
solemn remnant
how are you guys doing pvp talents for fury, idk if mine are shit but i feel like i lost alot of 1v1s
this is mine
lose*
red ether
I've specced more into the bloodthirst side of fury, and i win almost all of my 1v1s
brazen rock
how are you guys doing pvp talents for fury, idk if mine are shit but i feel lik...
if your fury, play pins, if your arms, gl.
red ether
It legitimately feels broken
solemn remnant
It legitimately feels broken
will tyr
red ether
The spec rn is just bloodthirst
tribal wedge
Barely same damage but more regen
solemn remnant
ok
undone pumice
@solemn remnant pins
solemn remnant
what do you mean by pins, like staying ontarget and just training it down?
mint tinsel
No the pins in the discord. If your on mobile swipe and they show up
solemn remnant
ahhh thank you so much!
junior kelp
btw does warbringer make anyone else's charge sorta not work?
tiny moss
Are you guys crafting ilvl 424 boots for fury ?
brazen rock
not yet but probably will on season release.
safe glen
should i get honor gear or the bloody token gear for PvP?
Honor gear seems to have slightly higher ilvl, but bloody token gear has the set bonus so im not sure
limpid fossil
Does anyone know if depths of insanity extends the recklessness that procs from unbridled ferocity?
copper hare
doesnt
muted surge
should i get honor gear or the bloody token gear for PvP?
Honor gear seems to h...
Set bonus doesn’t work
In instances
sonic hawk
Arenas and BGs are instanced
thorn herald
Are you guys crafting ilvl 424 boots for fury ?
I already did but I play arms
tribal wedge
Are you guys crafting ilvl 424 boots for fury ?
I did, had the composant, so
muted surge
is arms any viable?
There’s not even an arms build pinned
lime fossil
Do i need to "infuse with power" my 424 crafted boots
modern veldt
Really big dumb question is there a viable build for prot in arenas and bgs? That doesn't involve having to have a pocket healer just asking because I've only ever really ran arms/fury
onyx vale
in the pins
keen aurora
yo can we rbg cross faction ? like in lfg groups of aliance/horde mixed is possible ?
thorn herald
Rated bgs yes
Randoms no
Horde can mercenary mode and queue for randoms and be alliance
keen aurora
rated
thorn herald
Yeah rated when the season starts is x faction
muted surge
Do i need to "infuse with power" my 424 crafted boots
No
muted surge
Randoms no
Which is really stupid bcs you queue for both
I don’t get why blizz does that
modern veldt
BiS enchants for weapons?
tribal wedge
BiS enchants for weapons?
Fury or arms?
split halo
is the regular pvp gear (411 ilvl) better in the open world than the "open world set" (408 ilvl)? does the difference in ilvl make the regular pvp one better than the set bonus of the other one?
tribal wedge
As fury i like the mastery one, since wa already have so much haste
modern veldt
Fury or arms?
Both
tribal wedge
Arms idk
muted surge
is the regular pvp gear (411 ilvl) better in the open world than the "open world...
Seems better
Until we get conq at least
split halo
Seems better
the set one?
muted surge
Yes
high abyss
I'm using Sophic Devo but I'm not sure if others are running different
split halo
buying sophic then 
cinder thorn
Oh is it better now?
Same as fury or still worse
sonic hawk
Worse than fury but I've been having fun with it in BGs
viscid folio
did fury for 2 arenas
absoultely crazy damage
Wouldnt say fury is that much better
viscid folio
i did arms for 2 arenas*
olive owl
It’s felt pretty good imo
viscid folio
yea agree
saw magnusz was playing arms as well
i never liked the spammy auto attack fury in arenas
seems awkward
brazen rock
damage isnt the problem
olive owl
Yeah I tried his build
sonic hawk
Arms doesn't have the survivability compared to fury but yeah, who needs survivability when you smack them out of existence
brazen rock
its surviving.
limpid fog
Just getting into pvp bois. Whats the go to cookie cutter bg smasher build to go
viscid folio
Arms doesn't have the survivability compared to fury but yeah, who needs surviva...
idd
limpid fog
Thanks M8
elfin surge
viscid folio
honestly arms is way more fun imo
sonic hawk
It is
sonic hawk
fury is just spammy and hurts my arm
Same lmao
olive owl
I think people under estimate the survivability arms kept BS while fury lost it which can be pretty high skill cap if you stop cc with it and they have impending doom every game still sucks no ignore pain
limpid fog
For just random bgs is it worth going prot or just basically stay fury. Was seeing how prot war can do as flag
Or just leave it to druids as per usual lol
lucid walrus
I think people under estimate the survivability arms kept BS while fury lost it ...
you just kinda die to raw damage, not even stuns really
viscid folio
I think people under estimate the survivability arms kept BS while fury lost it ...
agree
i honestly feel like arms has more support for team
lucid walrus
it’s weird having to tread water until you have impend back up
viscid folio
i thought arms was completely dogshit
but actually seems very viable
10/10 would recommend if you dont like fury playstyle like me
olive owl
I like fury more in bgs but every time I get in the arena I wish I was playing arms lol
limpid fog
Arms same stats basically? Haste vers
sonic hawk
I've read vers > crit > mastery > haste
viscid folio
damn really?
im fully stacked on haste because of fur
lmao
Magnusz has stacked haste for arms
sonic hawk
Yeah I don't personally have any idea, that's just what I've read here lmao
muted surge
Arms same stats basically? Haste vers
We profit from 4 set a lot , crit seems bis
viscid folio
4 seT?
limpid fog
Im fury atm, arms feels wonky but i was going to try tonight since the buffs
viscid folio
arms doesnt feel wonky at all
limpid fog
I like rolling my head and pressing anything smashing
sonic hawk
For me arms only felt wonky because I had no idea how to play it
But after getting used to it it's completely fine imo
viscid folio
yea
i played arms since legion which is virtually the same playstyle
feels absoultely amazing to me
Do people use the bloody pvp gear set bonuses?
from what ive seen regular pvp gear is BiS
outer elk
How's the survivability? Or do you have a pocket healer?
brazen rock
How's the survivability? Or do you have a pocket healer?
its dogshit
brazen rock
Do people use the bloody pvp gear set bonuses?
bloody pvp gear set bonuses are disabled in instanced pvp.
sonic hawk
btw is the tooltip just bugged for enchants? All qualities show the same numbers on the AH
viscid folio
bloody pvp gear set bonuses are disabled in instanced pvp.
🙂
viscid folio
How's the survivability? Or do you have a pocket healer?
i done a few arenas rn around 6-7 and won all so far
survivability actually seems really good
I have impending victory, rallying, die by the swrod
defensive stance
i heard that rend build is better but im going wiht overpower rn
cloud oak
what are the best gems right now? having a hard time finding a decent 1 lol
cloud oak
whats the reasoning?
wet scarab
does Magnusz have a vod with his talents?
brazen rock
what are the best gems right now? having a hard time finding a decent 1 lol
vers.
brazen rock
or haste vers idk i forget whats cheap rn
wet scarab
thanks!
viscid folio
I rewatched his latest twitch stream and he said that he knows that rend build is better
but he prefers overpower
rn
clear quiver
Ayy boys is smf drastically worse than titans still?
wet scarab
lol those arms pvp notes: We accidentally realised that an ability called Skullsplitter sometimes kills people.
brazen rock
Ayy boys is smf drastically worse than titans still?
yes
coral mango
Yo anyone know where people are getting honor necks with 2 sockets?
brazen rock
Yo anyone know where people are getting honor necks with 2 sockets?
jc item to add sockets i believe
giga expensive on most servers dw about it rn
coral mango
blizz making me pay for bling smh
wet scarab
arms survivability is buffed by the fact people dont think it does any damage yet
so they don't go you first
very beautiful time
brazen rock
royal marten
Is fury still better than arms after the arms buff for PVP?
brazen rock
yes
wet scarab
prob I don't know, does same amount of damage roughly but less alive
brazen rock
stop you'll tilt the arms purists
tribal wedge
brazen rock
gonna play bm/fury/provoker to the easiest day 1 que session of my life
slam a 12 pack and play some games
brazen rock
Was gonna play tsg but my dk got tilted over nerfs, especially abom limb, and rerolled
royal marten
What do you guys think the best comp for fury warrior will be? (I know it’s still early to tell).
wet scarab
it doesn't really matter just play with another meta dps since you dont need a healer
or choose a good healer
who can zug with you
like pres evoker
burnt hull
guardian works rlly well with fury in
wet scarab
yeah but if you're friends with someone who plays guardian in arena please leave the discord
brazen rock
guardian works rlly well with fury in
disgusting
burnt hull
i will be extracting the elo of all the guardian fury haters
brazen rock
What do you guys think the best comp for fury warrior will be? (I know it’s stil...
batman, tsg, kitty, kfc are my top choices rn
devout nebula
You don't think turbo will be good?
brazen rock
gl finding an enhance after the butchering they got
wet scarab
it's a bit overrated I think
I liked playing with a WW more
shit that we arent targeting seems to just die
viscid folio
arns/dh braindead keyboad smash combo
viscid folio
batman, tsg, kitty, kfc are my top choices rn
batman?
wet scarab
I don't think you'll find a lot of people playing fury/DH because they are usually the same individuals rerolling based on fotm
wet scarab
it's like all the exclusive fury warriors migrate to DH and back every time there's a change in the meta
viscid folio
virtually all melee cleaves work with warr tbh
brazen rock
it's like all the exclusive fury warriors migrate to DH and back every time ther...
there are plenty of both all around rn
viscid folio
what fury build have you guys used so faR?
wet scarab
pins
viscid folio
tried to auto attack build and that shit was trash yo
if thats the meta im for sur enot going fury
literally spamming bloodthirst for rampage is the most boring playstyle
wet scarab
it is fun in double dps games to do 10k hps
brazen rock
unless rb/cb get giga buffed, it'll be meta.
viscid folio
yea im playing arms then
wet scarab
lol that's exactly what fury last season was except it's BT instead of RB now
viscid folio
i like big phatt numbers and not debuffs
brazen rock
which it might because fury is lacking in pve rn, same with arms.
wet scarab
wdym fury was better than arms in ST and MT before the buffs this week
I dont know if the buffs changed anything either
wet scarab
eh fury is pretty good
viscid folio
yea to other choices, but its always going to be like that
people dont like warr in pve
sly walrus
wdym fury was better than arms in ST and MT before the buffs this week
Fury is not better in pure ST unless there’s no execute
burnt hull
prot is unkillable if u build right
sly walrus
Fury’s ST is as ass as arms is
wet scarab
heh
viscid folio
fury is good in mythic so far
burnt hull
getting 200k absorb every second
viscid folio
ravager + spear
burnt hull
wet scarab
I haven't played much of either in m0 because prot is bis >_>
crude bane
fury / afflock total broken
viscid folio
fury / afflock total broken
im excited to see afflock + arms
royal marten
getting 200k absorb every second
How
viscid folio
i tried arms for 10 arenas and won all10
brazen rock
you doing good in m0 is not indicative of raid performance or m+ representation..
viscid folio
had a few 60-80k MS
crude bane
hoo nice
viscid folio
yep
crude bane
BS with 2 Ms sounds amazing ?
royal marten
i regularly crit 70k BBs as fury
What build?
wet scarab
well then what are you basing your argument that arms/fury are bad in pve?
viscid folio
well then what are you basing your argument that arms/fury are bad in pve?
lmao agree
viscid folio
You cant base your opinion because its not out, but i know its bad
brazen rock
holy shit
austere crow
haste poly or crit poly for arms pvp ?
crude bane
@wet scarab you basically just a dps machine 0 bonus for group so its bad
brazen rock
its basically bottom of the pile in cleave and ST sims
viscid folio
haste poly or crit poly for arms pvp ?
verse > haste > crit > mastery
austere crow
ty
crude bane
ah sorry then
viscid folio
honestly play whatever playstyle you like
you can easily get 2400+ if youre good enough at your spec
and after today arms seems very viable
brazen rock
i never said otherwise. Nobody did.
brazen rock
you using arena skirms and m0 to measure how strong a spec will perform is beyond dumb
wet scarab
why are you like this lol
viscid folio
lol im not measuring anything - im telling you my experience
wet scarab
you are basing your opinion on sims of fights that haven't been done
viscid folio
wtf is im supposed to base it on?
brazen rock
👍
viscid folio
If i do 10 arenas and win all 10 as arms, why should i base my opinion on a hypotethical simulation
stiff dust
ive heard about fury nerf inc 20%dps/heal fact or cap ?
viscid folio
opinions are based on experience and not biased presuppositions of a spec
crude bane
anyone tested blademaster torment with unhinged talent 2 BS with 4 MS sound amazing in pvp or ima wrong ?
brazen rock
ive heard about fury nerf inc 20%dps/heal fact or cap ?
ive also heard of a 15% DH aura nerf lmao
pearl prism
Fark what arms build you running?
viscid folio
anyone tested blademaster torment with unhinged talent 2 BS with 4 MS sound amaz...
Not yet
crude bane
@stiff dust i hope not im banned i cant reroll now
viscid folio
Fark what arms build you running?
just a standard OP MS build - not the rend one
i usually forget to rend
pearl prism
Yep
viscid folio
Magnusz said rend was better but he likes OP more
viscid folio
agree
royal marten
I play warrior to see instant damage and big numbers, not that DOT shit
wet scarab
I don't actually get the argument for not using Blademaster's torment if you're going for unhinged
pearl prism
I play warrior to get pu$$y
viscid folio
agreed
arms gives the feeling of actually playing a warrior
big phatttttt sword swinging around with big numbers
not debuffs and support xd
crude bane
yeah i mean fury is just spam bloodbath cleave then rampage
viscid folio
yea
crude bane
its fun 5 Minute
brazen rock
5k bt lmao
crude bane
this is what i want to see
brazen rock
bruv why do you lie
viscid folio
dont know how the other guy said he got 80k BT lolz
wet scarab
it is really nice not to faceplant whenever you're targeted
also those bloodthirst crits are big
brazen rock
for such a brainless spec its great you have no idea how it fuctions
viscid folio
for such a brainless spec its great you have no idea how it fuctions
idd
thorn escarp
It’s true bt hits for 5-12k
stiff dust
fury feels like dh tbh
thorn escarp
Hits like a wet noodle
viscid folio
fury feels like dh tbh
funny analogy but i acutally agree
brazen rock
yes pls buff bt
crude bane
on geared ppl its 30K most likely
brazen rock
20% 
viscid folio
on geared ppl its 30K most likely
yep
viscid folio
yep
thorn escarp
Hitting 100k exa and ms
viscid folio
yep
thorn escarp
Rip fury?
stiff dust
138k crit MS this morning in bg against 200k mage
thorn escarp
138k crit MS this morning in bg against 200k mage
Nerf inc?
stiff dust
U have to setup to do 130k+... and getting lucky to crit
thorn escarp
You think no nerf inc?
lean burrow
if you got 2 charges of OP and mortal strike is ready, what should you press?
thorn escarp
One ms 80% of the mage’s hp gone xd
stiff dust
unstuff mage
crude bane
dont forget sharpen blades
stiff dust
Sharpen blades :D
lean burrow
MS 2 stacks > OP 2 charges > MS > OP rotation?
crude bane
i assume instant damage from fury its better since you dont need setup
thorn escarp
Then sharpen ms
stiff dust
But i dont get it, sharpen blades apply -50% heal debuff into the next MS but ms baseline applies -50% heal ?
thorn escarp
2 OP - sharpen & sweeping then ms?
Macro sweeping with ur burst macro
thorn escarp
Do you go unhinged now after exa buff and ms buff?
wheat crane
But i dont get it, sharpen blades apply -50% heal debuff into the next MS but ms...
Base ms is 25% in pvp
viscid folio
i go unhinged for now
thorn escarp
I think fatality is better not sure
viscid folio
would you go juggernaut instead for unhinged?
thorn escarp
would you go juggernaut instead for unhinged?
Yea with tier set
crude bane
i fix to unhinged since its a low BS your 2 MS hitting quicker
if you double crit
its huge
viscid folio
yea execute could hit for insane amounts
thorn escarp
Arms exa hits like a semi truck
viscid folio
But not as reliable for pressure
crude bane
btw guyz anyone tested frozen devotion enchant
thorn escarp
While fury exa hitting for 20k xd
viscid folio
nah arent enchanct like 50k
crude bane
on beta it was 4th damage source xd
viscid folio
my friend made 200k from some random epic plan he got some BG
thorn escarp
Get the ring guys it’s broken
viscid folio
What ring
stiff dust
Is this normal that i simcraft higher with the haste build than the crit build as arm warrior ?
crude bane
the proc rate seems nerf in pvp tho
viscid folio
Is this normal that i simcraft higher with the haste build than the crit build a...
yeahaha
people are going verse > haste > crit > mastery
thorn escarp
If you get absorb proc from the ring your second wind heals you in combat xd
Broken
crude bane
anyone get helm pvp also
thorn escarp
So shoud i go crit or haste as arm ?
Haste always
crude bane
the one that damage ppl hitting you
wheat crane
Haste feels good to play usually
stiff dust
Okay, but we lose the surprise effect of doing big damage at once with the build hate?
stiff dust
it makes linear damage and not a big peak
thorn escarp
Crit if for big oneshots
stiff dust
It so satisfying to do 15k damage then 2 shot as arm warrior with the crit build kek
thorn escarp
Out of that haste better
crude bane
@drokys probably changing with your comp
if you go turbo maybe crit is better
but WLS you go haste and win with damp and pressure
also solo shuffle is *5 Min round
dunno if crit its better then
maybe yes if the gameplay is around execut / MS damage
thorn escarp
If you see a dk charge at him he will die in 5 seconds they are paper now
stiff dust
Yes im playing fatality/spear build
thorn escarp
They all crying saying fury is op xd
stiff dust
not bladestorm/rend
crude bane
how can you cry on fury damage when SP ROGUE Feral WW existe
thorn escarp
Ikr
thorn escarp
If they nerf fury healing it’s good we can go arms no prob xd
And still wreck havoc in them
stiff dust
xd
thorn escarp
Yea I feel nerf inc
stiff dust
What do you think about 2/2 slam 60% damage and 15% crit ?
worth or clearly not
To keep " preasure "
thorn escarp
If they gonna nerf melees surv I’ll go prot no prob xd
crude bane
XD yes
thorn escarp
What do you think about 2/2 slam 60% damage and 15% crit ?
As fury never
crude bane
go swifty meme
stiff dust
as arm
thorn escarp
Ur getting tons of ms
stiff dust
with the haste build ?
thorn escarp
Not worth
thorn escarp
Cause if you talent into slam ur slam rage will cost more then ms
crude bane
damp not working on shield ?
i mean not applied to shield *
it was the case in legion or ima wrong ?
i hope for a nerf to demono walock tho
too many pets hitting for 3 / 4 K every seconde like comon
thorn escarp
i hope for a nerf to demono walock tho
Go wrecking throw shatter pvp talent it’s rip for them
Hitting 100k wrecking throw ez
onyx vale
dont think blood surge is worth if you don't have rend
tribal wedge
A lot of arms 
tonight
onyx vale
i'd remove bloodsurge juggernaut and exploiter to take battlelord and deft experience, don't think you execute enough in pvp for those to be worth
well exploiter is kinda good but juggernaut and bloodsurge really don't seem worth it, and 25% more overpower damage is big
tribal wedge
Exploiter isnt giga nerf in PvP?
brazen rock
A lot of arms <:copium:839076283467431956> tonight
really quite incredible.
thorn escarp
A lot of arms <:copium:839076283467431956> tonight
=more deaths
stiff dust
What should i change ?
tribal torrent
vers+haste or vers+crit for arms?
stiff dust
haste simcraft higher, but crit = big surprise ^^
crude bane
how you can pvp wihtout BS my g
sly walrus
Can you really stack fatality at all in PvP?
thorn escarp
how you can pvp wihtout BS my g
Don’t need it
tribal wedge
vers+haste or vers+crit for arms?
Tried the Crit one today it was meh
crude bane
change spear dot damage to rallying cry
thorn escarp
Blade does shit dmg
crude bane
bs its basiccaly an imune cc
thorn escarp
Dosent move the targets hp
stiff dust
fax
crude bane
this is too huge
onyx vale
remove fatality and bloodsurge, you don't even have rend
thorn escarp
Dmg over immunity👍
onyx vale
take bladestorm and unhinged, if only for the cc immunity
bladestorm is literally the only thing you have fury doesnt
fickle forge
What should i change ?
Should pick up BS dude
thorn escarp
Does shit trash dmg
onyx vale
and take blademaster torment so you got double unhinged bladestorm and have a real burst
two mortal strike is literally all you could hope to do outside of bladestorm
fickle forge
BS or you'll cry vs any RMP
crude bane
take rallying cry remove spear damage
thorn escarp
BS or you'll cry vs any RMP
Trink bladestorm then dead
steep inlet
sometimes i wanna get rid of roar
fickle forge
Trink bladestorm then dead
What
stiff dust
feels affliction warlock kek
crude bane
are they gonna put tier set pvp or not ?
thorn escarp
are they gonna put tier set pvp or not ?
Yea it will work
fickle forge
Vs rmp you trink kidney and bladestorm
Or you know
You bladestorm the kidney and then keep your trinket
thorn escarp
In pvp
fickle forge
thorn escarp
Or you know
You bladestorm the kidney and then keep your trinket
U can’t do that in a rmp opener
If u wanna trink cheap shot go for it
crude bane
@thorn escarp no i mean are they gonna put a tier set for pvp likfe the world pvp gear
thorn escarp
U will die when he kidneys u
warped warren
Vs rmp you trink kidney and bladestorm
🤔
sturdy sleet
Did they fixed the Colbat Tank Ring in Pvp?
thorn escarp
Or u can bladestorm when he saps ur healer
onyx vale
playing arms without bladestorm doesnt make sense
thorn escarp
In 2s
crude bane
@onyx vale how many target ?
onyx vale
its two ms
junior kelp
the frappe mortelle is kinda pog
thorn escarp
It does 0 dmg vs a pvp player trust me dummy tar has 0 vers and armor
crude bane
so no criy 2 MS
thorn escarp
And def
warped warren
aint no way
crude bane
or they critted ?
warped warren
frappe hitting 73 whole thousand
wheat jay
That's 2 mortals
onyx vale
its 2 ms
wheat jay
Cuz bladestorm
fickle forge
You could just, you know, bladestorm whatever CC is coming your way and then keep your trinket for the next go
Definitely hasn't been a staple warrior thing for a decade+ 😎👍
wheat jay
Dumbeto
wheat jay
You could just, you know, bladestorm whatever CC is coming your way and then kee...
Just bladestorm on reaction
Easygamingeasylife
onyx vale
doing 37K with ms on pvp gear after the buff isn't rare at all
crude bane
no crit i hope ?.
fickle forge
Just bladestorm on reaction
Just trinket into bladestorm the coil
onyx vale
no crit no
fickle forge
thorn escarp
You could just, you know, bladestorm whatever CC is coming your way and then kee...
What why ur stunned 24\7 vs rm xd
fickle forge
What why ur stunned 24\7 vs rm xd
For sure for sure bro
RMP yeets stuns randomly
😎👍
thorn escarp
RMP yeets stuns randomly
Talking 2s big boi rm not rmp
fickle forge
at 1300 they do
fickle forge
Talking 2s big boi rm not rmp
Weren't you the one replying to me when I was talking about RMP doe? 
thorn escarp
Weren't you the one replying to me when I was talking about RMP doe? <:greenbear...
No xd I was telling a guy about bladestorm and u barged in xd
wheat jay
Nah, never
Trinket into bladestorm is dumb ngl
You either trinket and press sth else
full quiver
That's not true
wheat jay
Or pre-bladestorm stuff
fickle forge
No xd I was telling a guy about bladestorm and u barged in xd
Pretty sure I didn't ever talk to you until you replied to me though? 🤔
thorn escarp
Trinket into bladestorm is dumb ngl
In 1500 it’s fine
full quiver
You can trinket something and vlade storm follow up Cc/disarm
crude bane
whtas wrong with 1500 stop bashing ppl 
full quiver
Obviously pre blasestorm is better lol
thorn escarp
Pretty sure I didn't ever talk to you until you replied to me though? 🤔
Do u want to suck my d? Or something ?
full quiver
LMAO
warped warren
In 1500 it’s fine
i wish i could get up to 1500
thorn escarp
Pretty sure I didn't ever talk to you until you replied to me though? 🤔
I’m not into men bro get lost
crude bane
well that quickly escaled
fickle forge
Do u want to suck my d? Or something ?
Can't lean all the way down to 1500 I'm afraid 🤷♂️
wheat jay
whtas wrong with 1500 stop bashing ppl <:Target:668436712573370382>
Being 1500 is fine, but why learn to play like 1500 when you can learn to play like 2400
thorn escarp
Don’t like my opinion get of
scarlet barn
In 1500 it’s fine
in 1500 i memed with my buddies
wheat jay
And get your easy 1800 or 2100 cuz you're good enough for it
thorn escarp
in 1500 i memed with my buddies
Haha
warped warren
And get your easy 1800 or 2100 cuz you're good enough for it
fake news
wheat jay
Its okay, you're good enough for it too
scarlet barn
in 1500 i am from future
warped warren
i dont play in 1500 😎 '
fickle forge
In 1500 I trinket into Dispersion every time
wheat jay
I trust you could get some gladiator, even without prot pala
fickle forge
Worls great, I haven't died yet
crude bane
in 1500 i connect my keyboard
nvm ill go dh meme
stuck 1K5 with 2K game
then 2K4 solo shuffle
wheat jay
Last time I was 1500 in 3s i got adopted by two gladiators
onyx vale
here I got one ms crit
scarlet barn
@ndogo
onyx vale
crude bane
seems good
warped warren
D:
crude bane
did you use sharpen ?
onyx vale
no
crude bane
well it looks shinny
onyx vale
ms hits decently with the buffs, now we just need defensive stance back
crude bane
cant wait to BS some shit in solo shuffle
thorn escarp
Solo dosent award glad mount right
crude bane
but i still think fury doing better at low rate
onyx vale
-20% damage done for -10% damage taken is a joke
fury is probably going to do better at all ratings
crude bane
depends if they nerf healing
thorn escarp
neither does 1500
I don’t think any1 is at 1500 now solo shuffle is ez
crude bane
nerf fury heal its over for warrioor
onyx vale
arms will just get focused into the ground AND do less pressure because your mortal strike isn't as good as fury's
wheat jay
-20% damage done for -10% damage taken is a joke
Can't have it back to 20/20 tho
Cuz bitches would sit it permanently
And that's bad
onyx vale
yeah blizzard would go crazy if arms wasn't the most fragile spec in the game
i'd prefer getting ignore pain back personally
crude bane
@onyx vale actually fury MS getting canceled by all other MS class
so you have to press 2 rampage again
to apply
onyx vale
sounds fun
last spear
is arms worth a shit after buffs or is fury still king
wheat jay
Ignore pain back would be good in current tuning
fickle forge
Shrek cleave
Yeah we still don't know what it is since we play KFC
wheat jay
Only players with biggest biceps play KFC
crude bane
i am
fickle forge
KFC best Comp in the game
Real Chads be out here making streamers flame for KFC
crude bane
StoneFace
wheat jay
Real Chads be out here making streamers flame for KFC <:gladge:96397013770110982...
It was so funny to get flamed by streamers for playing dogshit tier comp and still winning
HE EXECUTED ME FOR HALF MY HP
checks death log
crude bane
i legit get 2K5 on AT as turbo back in days
wheat jay
Killshot for 50% of hp
crude bane
rly fun and interactive
lean burrow
And that's bad
how is that bad? it'd be the difference between good and bad warriors
stiff dust
LMAO thx guys the 2 MS during BS is incredibly funny
crude bane
😄
stiff dust
people are like ?
fickle forge
where is the healer ? here ? press bl
Legion turbo was 👌 ngl
When every CD was off GCD
wheat jay
how is that bad? it'd be the difference between good and bad warriors
You'd lose nothing from sitting in it outside of your cds
Whereas with 10/20 you lose a lot of dmg
So you want to use it ONLY when neccessary
onyx vale
and don't get a whole lot in return
crude bane
@fickle forge imagine ppl trying RMP and sweating when turbo exist
fickle forge
Whereas with 10/20 you lose a lot of dmg
Warpaint go brrrrrr
wheat jay
You get a bit in return
onyx vale
FUCKING WAR PAINT
onyx vale
don't nerf fury cuz arms sucks
crude bane
they also should remove holinka
wheat jay
Its a remnant from legion when fury took more dmg when enraged xD
crude bane
nothing personnal but its personnal
lean burrow
You'd lose nothing from sitting in it outside of your cds
bitches in perma dstance would still be outpressured by better warrs
wheat jay
Well, yes
scarlet barn
WEll ofc
onyx vale
just make it -20/-30 then, so you'd actually use it to counter bursts
you will counter nothing with -10
lean burrow
20% wall is too good
fickle forge
I mean ondemand 30% wall
lean burrow
15-20 or smth
fickle forge
Any decent arms would be invincible
wheat jay
Thing is, to make it more engaging, what you lose Has to be higher than what you gain
Because it can be permament and has low cd
15-30 would be good imo
onyx vale
it's not on demand 30, it's on demand 20, you are the one losing 30% of your damage
and i don't think arms would be tankier than warlock even with that
fickle forge
On-demand skin is also stronk 😎👍
wheat jay
15% wall, 30% dmg dip
lean burrow
15% wall, 30% dmg dip
fickle forge
10/10 I'd like
lean burrow
anti stun button
wheat jay
That would make the defensive part strong, but you'd also lose a lot of dmg when sitting it
onyx vale
10 10 would still make you just sit in d stance all day
wheat jay
Ye, values cant be equal
onyx vale
the easiest solution would be ignore pain
undone pumice
yeah its called DEFENSIVE stance
lean burrow
easiest solution is passive 10% wall
undone pumice
as in you are DEFENSIVE and are NOT ATTACKING as yoh are DEFENDING
onyx vale
that's called playing fury
lean burrow
lean burrow
I also wish intervene still had 20% wall
onyx vale
and I wouldn't be against warrior actually being one of the tanky class
personally i don't see why warrior should be squishier than mage and rogue
wheat jay
Arms should be the tanky class
crude bane
IM PLATE PLAYER FUCKIGN BITCHES
crude bane
i still dont get it why ppl have the same HP
thick reef
unhinged or sharpened blades?
fickle forge
easiest solution is passive 10% wall <:copium:839076283467431956>
You know what? Fury has permanent 10% wall, perhaps it's fair if we gave arms something. 10% permanent wall to AoE
- Blizzard, probably
undone pumice
i want arms to be a disruptive sustained dmg class with low burst and hella defense but not a lot of healing
undone pumice
thats the arms fantasy imo
whole forge
guys DH vs Fury who is favored in 1v1
crude bane
dh
undone pumice
does fury have disarm
whole forge
same skill level and special talents for the duel
lean burrow
does fury have disarm
ye
whole forge
best talents to counter each other
undone pumice
fury
fickle forge
Big fat crits is the real arms fantasy
undone pumice
arms has 2 fantasies
undone pumice
dstance being basically prot warrior 0 dmg big disruption
and bismillah ruchmeeh alhamdulillah stance big fat crits
crude bane
@whole forge why you put your tinder bio here tho
whole forge
soz
crude bane
this is the last time i missclick your profile yo
wheat jay
Big fat crits is the real arms fantasy
Tbh id rather the class to never die and to disrupt others
fickle forge
Maybe arms should be what it suggests by name, a mastet of all arms and versatilities 🤷♂️
fickle forge
Imagine s2 shadowlands, but much lower burst
Fuck you, I wanna Execute someone for 80%
crude bane
legion arms is better
fickle forge
wheat jay
Fuck you too
whole forge
so no 1 knows which class should win 1v1 between DH and FURY
crude bane
its fury due to healing
wheat jay
I want you to never be a kill target cuz you can't kite for SHIT
undone pumice
fury should win if he have disarm imo
lean burrow
imprison-sigil of misery-fly away-stun-stun again-> fury burst is gone
undone pumice
if they just make arms immortal like s2 sl again with less dmg ill be happy
it would prob kill the arms carry comps but make the arms supp comps fun af
fickle forge
I want you to never be a kill target cuz you can't kite for SHIT
Chad winging it with 5% HP vs virgin 20 minutes damp
wheat jay
In other words, you're equally far from every pillar, sittin in middle
BUT
I have to give you credit where its due
amber heron
@elfin surge
wheat jay
You once did a Perfect kite when enemy healer was rooted
amber heron
im back
pearl prism
@elfin surge
fickle forge
if they just make arms immortal like s2 sl again with less dmg ill be happy
it ...
Let's be real though, S1 and S2 arms was mainly enabling other specs with immortality
pearl prism
Everyone tag mud
undone pumice
@elfin surge
amber heron
i want to ask u something please
pearl prism
To summon his spirit
elfin surge
cock
undone pumice
Let's be real though, S1 and S2 arms was mainly enabling other specs with immort...
i want arms to be true versatility at best ngl
pearl prism
There he is
wheat jay
i want to ask u something please
Yes mr top G?
amber heron
i only tagged u once
pearl prism
@elfin surge would you let your first born son play arms warrior?
wheat jay
<@176232856018878464> <@456226577798135808> <@138851454017470465>
You're famous my dude
amber heron
if fury war gets inherent like 40% haste, is it worth even getting more then 10% base?
wheat jay
Better question, would you allow your first son to be a bitch and play fury as his first spec?
undone pumice
dstance is like 20/35 split
then u have bstance where you can just 1 clil somebody, and have strong util in dstance and sorta weak util in bstance
amber heron
whether u like it or not fury is better
wheat jay
Well, yes
amber heron
so u can wine about it like a bitch over and over or just press on
pearl prism
Mud how many first born sons do you have
amber heron
and keep playing arms
wheat jay
And if given a choice, id play it if its better
But
Arms is better to learn arena properly
Teaches you proper arena gameplay
small silo
random question anybody know how to get the pattern for pvp boots ? is it end of bg box or something else ?
wheat jay
Fury is too zug zug
fickle forge
Imagine wanting to be a fury player
amber heron
yea
pearl prism
To be honest. Arms could be an investment in the event fury and dh get hard nerfs
amber heron
its in the bg box
wheat jay
random question anybody know how to get the pattern for pvp boots ? is it end of...
Precisely
amber heron
u dont have to invest anything lmao
just grind a arms honor set now
and u already have a 2h lmao
sullen herald
with test of might for arms in pvp, what percentage strength bonus should i be shooting for? I can only ever get around 10-11% even with the dummy, should i try different talents/playing, or is that a good place to be at
fickle forge
You gotta love how all the self-proclaiming 10+ years fury mains just vanished in pre-patch, and all these DHs just popped up outta nowhere 😎👍
wheat jay
Imagine wanting to be a fury player
I like both, if both are equally strong, i play arms, if fury is MILES ahead, i sometimes play fury
fickle forge
Where did all the SL BM hunters go anyway 🤔
amber heron
u mean survival?
undone pumice
ndogofury
fickle forge
Ah yeah, there were so many of those
amber heron
wasnt sruvival better
wheat jay
with test of might for arms in pvp, what percentage strength bonus should i be s...
Not a good talent in pvp
amber heron
with mending bandage
wheat jay
Survival in 2s was BEST in shadowlands
undone pumice
also wtf happened to resune
wheat jay
Shit's mad fun
wheat jay
also wtf happened to resune
He didnt like the pride month
undone pumice
He didnt like the pride month
but that was months ago
fickle forge
BM ran rampant in jungle for half of SL, and then vanished when MLX appeared