what’s ur health at with 408 ilvl
#pvp
burnt hull
warm pollen
whats lowest stat items
little sinew
yo guys is fury the way to go in pvp?
lament kiln
does the set bonus work in pvp?
little sinew
im completely new to warr pvp
burnt hull
yo guys is fury the way to go in pvp?
yes
warm pollen
does the set bonus work in pvp?
no
lament kiln
so ilvl is king
muted surge
Does the set bonus work in arena / bg?
warm pollen
but i find gear has better stats? like head and waist isnt it ?
muted surge
If not it’s useless
warm pollen
nope they just work on world pvp
burnt hull
alright thank you :)
arms is getting a buff but for now fury and prot are kings
muted surge
(Being an owpvp set and all)
warm pollen
but stats are still better on bloody token ones isnt it ?
muted surge
but stats are still better on bloody token ones isnt it ?
By comparing a 340 ilvl with 366?
Compare 408 to 411
iron basalt
What did you guys do to your legion leggos?
warm pollen
how can i do that
warm pollen
By comparing a 340 ilvl with 366?
true
burnt hull
if you can’t use the set bonus then the honor gear will be better
unless ur trying to world pvp
stuck mulch
only me that think rogues are annoying af?
sly furnace
as always but guardian druids :/
latent void
any guide on arms stat prio for pvp, only seeing Fury one pinned
queen plank
any arms pvp talents for bg?
delicate fable
This I found most effective but requires setup, an execute proc and some OP stacks and then dump all cds then feel like a noodle 
Tomorrow will be better after patch
dire carbon
Arms will be better?
tribal wedge
This I found most effective but requires setup, an execute proc and some OP stac...
Don t like fatality, would take bladestorm in place, and surely trader executioner for unhinged
delicate fable
Don t like fatality, would take bladestorm in place, and surely trader execution...
Yeah I also played with that but I feel its too much setup for bgs, they either die or you are CCed in BG
tribal wedge
I m speaking for 2s or 3s
delicate fable
I was responding to the spec for BG question above 
muted surge
I m speaking for 2s or 3s
Is fatality worth it with the 50% nerf
Seems kinda meh compared to bs or bleed
onyx vale
if you don't like getting cced
delicate fable
I didnt test unhinged yet 🤔 maybe feels better huh, then you stomp spear then BS for burst I mean 🤔
onyx vale
why don't you take bladestorm
tribal wedge
Honestly even withouth the nerf i dont like it
onyx vale
I get that exploiter is fun for big ms but i don't think you press execute often enough in pvp for it to have a real impact
tribal wedge
I didnt test unhinged yet 🤔 maybe feels better huh, then you stomp spear then B...
More interesting now that ms IS unnerf in pvp
delicate fable
Yeah will have to test it tomorrow
onyx vale
does blademaster torment proc unhinged? i haven't even tried
delicate fable
I want to find a burst for arms without so much setup, otherwise I cannot justify playing it besides fury since than odyn fury burst is amazing
onyx vale
if so double beyblade build should be the goal
delicate fable
Other than me liking a lot xD
tribal wedge
I would Say no but idk
wheat jay
yo, can i have a macro for arena123, but if there's none, it'll just use the skill on my target?
elfin surge
yo, can i have a macro for arena123, but if there's none, it'll just use the ski...
shut up
elfin surge
and neither are u
muted surge
yo, can i have a macro for arena123, but if there's none, it'll just use the ski...
There was one linked yesterday
Scroll all the way up
tawny river
how hard is shout nerfed in pvp, i mean i know the %, but actual numbers can it compete with spear or nah
steep inlet
I find shout terribad in terms of damgurs :(
But I HATE spear
Fucking animation delay and everyone can go out of it
tribal wedge
I find shout terribad in terms of damgurs :(
As prot? Cause i find it very good as fury
steep inlet
Yeah
We have the same
I even tested melee white hits with an arms
I crit 13k melee on a lock he crit 12k on the same lock
it’s strange
2h > 1h
(If it was logic)
dire carbon
is prot pvp a thing?
until arms gets super OP i wanna play something else
maybe fury ?? idk never tried
onyx vale
tribal wedge
Idk m'y shout goes for at least 20/30k no crit ans 90k dot
dire carbon
battlemaster or proc on hit, or the on-use PvP trinket?
elfin surge
maybe fury ?? idk never tried
fury op
warped warren
yo, can i have a macro for arena123, but if there's none, it'll just use the ski...
can you link bis macro pls
broken nest
maybe fury ?? idk never tried
Fury is amazing, I heal more than healers sometimes
I'm starting to call myself a Holy Warrior
hard hound
you heal more than healers who are dogshit ^^
you never will heal more than a real healer
wary harbor
like no joke, is the current fury build really BT spam with rampage? i tried that shit yesterday it feels so weird having two buttons
wary harbor
didnt think it could become more braindead than cb spam but here we are
brazen rock
Only execute for rage.
tribal wedge
In fact you juste replace CB by bt, and bt by slam
tribal wedge
Vers > crit > mastery > haste
wheat jay
can you link bis macro pls
#showtooltip
/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Mortal Strike
this one?
hard hound
Stop trolling with ignore pain macro
thorn escarp
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
tribal wedge
#showtooltip
/cast Ignore Pain
/cast Mortal Strike
Not that troll now ... 
near delta
Vers > crit > mastery > haste
Does arms not feel super clunky without some haste now?
tribal wedge
Does arms not feel super clunky without some haste now?
Idk i dont think that 2 or 3% haste will change anything
thorn escarp
is prot pvp a thing?
Yes it is I’m hitting 120k shield charge and 70k shockwave back to back try doing that on fury or arms #protrapesfuryandarms
tribal wedge
When 2 or 3% mastery does, buts its reallly my own feel
thorn escarp
مستغرب أشوف قطري هههههه
اي ترا نلعب العاب احنا🤣🤣
granite cradle
قم صل
noble stream
Only execute for rage.
Execute still does more damage than bloodbath even with contempt active
And gets increased crit damage and chance doesn't reset on crit
tribal wedge
Execute still does more damage than bloodbath even with contempt active
Not under 35%
noble stream
Yeah it does, even under 35%
undone pumice
playing prot comes at the cost of a prolapsed anus
stuck mulch
what pvp trees does everyone run now? anyone run with bitter immunity?
hard hound
Not under 35%
Even under 35 exec does more
steep inlet
Yes it is I’m hitting 120k shield charge and 70k shockwave back to back try doin...
It’s only our crit
And it’s less since stuffing
And don’t play shockwave lol
U will DR stun all ur team
thorn escarp
And don’t play shockwave lol
Who cares about drs in bgs I want to reck them and oneshot them
And prot is the master race u can oneshot anything
steep inlet
ah you don’t speak about ranked kk
thorn escarp
Do that in fury and arms u can’t
thorn escarp
Like really broken
thorn escarp
U think when exa gets buffed this reset we go full exacute talents?
steep inlet
probably
hard hound
Problem with arms is not damage
thorn escarp
Yea
steep inlet
Yeah it’s living
hard hound
Y
thorn escarp
If u want to do bgs and duels go prot in 3s go arms it’s easy guys
hard hound
Hybrid are fucked atm heal less than non hybrid class xD
steep inlet
hmm don’t think so
thorn escarp
Hybrid are fucked atm heal less than non hybrid class xD
Yea did u see ferel
hard hound
Dh heal more than ret and feral
steep inlet
Also Arms can play with a guy who Is focus target
thorn escarp
Fucken busted
steep inlet
Like affli
thorn escarp
You guys should really play prot i literally 2 shot
delicate fable
They say go fury, its so good but then I hit a big number as arms and cannot go back
muted surge
i saw an arms exec 110k
My range instants on enh hit more kekw
But getting nerfed now :(
delicate fable
Fun Detected!
drowsy wasp
Arms suppose to do more dmg than fury, yes?
patent musk
Arms does more damage than fury, the problem is our survi, we got use to not die in SL, im fine with our survi ATM, is not a problem for me, i die with my boots on, just take 2 or 3 with me
stiff dust
any arm talents three for arena pls ?
patent musk
how do you get this my dude?
patent musk
but this is a BS recipe?
wheat jay
no
leatherworking
im hunter
i just chill in skyhold
overall, costed me 20k or sth
maybe less
patent musk
i still dont understand the hole order things xD
rapid pagoda
Anyone notice a ton more warriors in PvP lately? I was doing the world pvp quest and it was a sea of brown
patent musk
give me more brown and less purple DH shit everyday
stuck mulch
dismantle sure is the best feeling in this game when u play warrior
shut barn
i heard they wanted to give disarm to dh or feral XD
stuck mulch
should give us disarm by default and not as a talent
shut barn
imagine disarming npcs in pve xd
brazen rock
Execute still does more damage than bloodbath even with contempt active
Ur not factoring in cshb procs, blood craze stacking, or contempt under 35%. But play how you like 👍
shut barn
u hit them with ur fist i guess?
shut barn
its like an uppercut
undone pumice
same shit
stuck mulch
i press piercing howl to rp how i feel in irl
undone pumice
its a rear hook i guess
that heals me
i bop his nose and drink his blood it gives me 40% max hp heal
lore friendly
undone pumice
i press piercing howl to rp how i feel in irl
my balls
steep inlet
I wasn’t trolling for TC btw
undone pumice
i know
shut barn
but playing rogue is not that ez
vital cedar
the quality of the crafted boots/helm doesn't matter for pvp right?
warped warren
but playing rogue is not that ez
🤣
stuck mulch
need this 4 set :lol atleast we get abit more def
dark sparrow
the set doesn't even work in instanced pvp (right now) anyway
full quiver
Isn't the picture a hammer hitting the ground
mint tinsel
Yeah but the animation is foot stomp
median shuttle
I wasn’t trolling for TC btw
were you trolling though?
pls clarify whether you were
zenith marlin
I wish honor gear scaled to 400 instead
It wouldn't change much, but would make epics more fulfilling to get
kekw if I replace 1 piece, it wont even change my ilvl
and 2nd piece it will, at 3rd too, then no change at 4th
muted surge
It wouldn't change much, but would make epics more fulfilling to get
Yes make it more difficult to have fun on alts again
That’s what we want
zenith marlin
400 to 424 isn't a big diff
muted surge
What
tribal wedge
it is
muted surge
It is
zenith marlin
nowhere as wide as it was in shadowlands
muted surge
Still too wide
brazen rock
Everyday bro you bring this up
zenith marlin
and atm a 411 subtelty rogue can still kill a full 424 in 1 stun
brazen rock
Your the only one here that wants to stomp fresh 70s and alts in BGs the entire expansion
zenith marlin
I got so used to it man 😦
brazen rock
Go play wotlk.
zenith marlin
since after WoD
brazen rock
zenith marlin
I only play 1 main char and feed it ilvl all season
hard hound
and atm a 411 subtelty rogue can still kill a full 424 in 1 stun
not tomorrow haha
zenith marlin
no time for alts
ahhh pleasing
who will be deem need be nerfed next
maybe I will try chill and have an alt
any suggestions? I have played warr for very long
Probably cant play caster or ranged
WW Monk seems fun?
charred onyx
on one hand im happy with how much fun im having atm but im also sad because theres a good chance fury healing get hit and it always feels bad when you know what you lost
zenith marlin
😦
hard hound
WW Monk seems fun?
you do the questions and answers on your own lol
charred onyx
demon hunter is similar to fury warrior
charred onyx
no
thorn escarp
Why didn’t they add dhs in tbc it was there expansion
charred onyx
they talked about why they didnt add them in bc
zenith marlin
they should make a glyph that turns Demo Warlocks into necromancers
charred onyx
said they didnt want players to expect a new class for each expansion
thorn escarp
they talked about why they didnt add them in bc
Yea why tho
I heard they were gonna make them
zenith marlin
Just visually
charred onyx
demo warlocks used to be a funner version of demon hunters
thorn escarp
Is blur still bugged?
charred onyx
atleast they had a way cooler demon form
thorn escarp
Dosent stil give 90% dodge
spice hornet
yes
steep inlet
Fuck blur
brazen rock
At this point it's easier to accept its not a bug
thorn escarp
At this point it's easier to accept its not a bug
Never trust tool tips xd
thick reef
demo warlocks used to be a funner version of demon hunters
You mean the glyph that let them tank. As a melee?
copper hare
what slot do I craft unity on
opaque quarry
Say wut?
spice hornet
what slot do I craft unity on
Which power for unity
copper hare
genkidama
fickle forge
What stats for unity?
copper hare
leech avoidance 100%
fickle forge
Got it, thanks
Can't wait to try it out in arena and use my new comp that features 110% MS 😎 👍
zenith marlin
yo is 1 ilvl -= 1% power increase?
survivability / dmg
well stats lets say
tbf I can test that myself sry
vocal frigate
I'm probably a potato, but is SPriest weirdly durable atm?
zenith marlin
340 -> 359 STR increase by 19% but stam increases by 15%
vocal frigate
survivability / dmg
No. ilvl is just a very broad shorthand used to assess the power of a given piece of gear and your overall gear "level" as a whole. In broad strokes high ilvl equates to more damage, healing, etc. but not directly or linearly.
For example, higher ilvl on a PWarr in PVE will ideally mean more Haste, which means more damage, GCDs, and CDR on Shield Block which can make him more durable, do more damage, and be more valuable if he plays right.
But not on its own.
ilvl is also how Blizzard budgets an item's stats.
If you check the math on two similar pieces of gear of identical item level for the same slot, you'll see their secondary totals, armor, STR, STAM, etc. are identical or really, really close unless they're weird pieces with procs that discount one or both stats.
muted surge
I'm probably a potato, but is SPriest weirdly durable atm?
Yes
vocal frigate
What gives them that? Is there anything we can do?
muted surge
You can use the insta shield shatter
zenith marlin
Nice thx for info
muted surge
But it’s more about self heal
vocal frigate
Oh, do they have huge barriers atm?
zenith marlin
not huge but repetietive
muted surge
But it has a cd
zenith marlin
Wrecking + Demolution rly slaps Warlocks and Monks tho i love it
I wish wrecking hit monks karma as well\
vocal frigate
Is the arms warbreaker damage on barrier cheese still in?
vocal frigate
You used to be able to chip barriers down low, throw your CDs like Ava, WB, STR trinkets, etc. then throw Shatter w/ Demolition and nearly oneshot people.
zenith marlin
Yall are too hard on me for ganking fresh 70s and low levels
spice hornet
You used to be able to chip barriers down low, throw your CDs like Ava, WB, STR ...
They fixed this
It won’t do damage beyond shields
Or whatever
near delta
They fixed this
That was wild lol. Was better to not fleshcraft or you'd get smoked.
keen coral
You can still do something similar with blessing of summer
waxen oasis
Arms changes good?
quick carbon
we should be able to oneshot warlocks whenever we want to
I agree someone has to be able to do it
keen coral
The damage of the big shatter won't translate to the enemies health bar but if the big hit procs a summer, that will actually hit their HP at full value. One shot a MW through cocoon that way in prepatch
thick reef
Arms changes good?
The problem is they're made of paper which remains unchanged
royal belfry
What enchants do I run for weapons in PvP/
brazen rock
Vers/str
copper hare
ye primary stat will probably be the best, but also the most expensive one
charred onyx
You mean the glyph that let them tank. As a melee?
no i mean when demo locks had a demon transformation and blizzard reworked them because they didnt want warlocks to have a cooler demon form than dh
thick reef
Pins
onyx vale
no the real reason ( and ion said so himself ) was because demonology was too hard to play for wow players tiny brains
and he didn't want destro and affli players to understand their specs are dumb as fuck
thick reef
Ion is also a compulsive liar
charred onyx
demo couldnt possibly have been harder than affliction at the time
onyx vale
mop and wod demonology was way harder than anything the other specs have ever been
thick reef
He has a long history of just making up bullshit to defend unpopular decisions
charred onyx
i only played the pvp version for bgs where you could just try to burst people
WoD demo was boring to me after they ruined the part that was fun in pvp
onyx vale
well that's something else entirely, but pve demonology was quite hard to play if you added mythic raids mechanics on top
it was fun
until the 25% blanket nerf
thick reef
Hah
charred onyx
in mop that dark wave attack they had could do some damage. in WoD it was a noodle attack
onyx vale
that's because people kept abusing it to one shot people with double chaos wave
charred onyx
thats what was fun about it lol, mop had tons of high damage one shot like classes and it was easily my favorite pvp expansion
specially since there was still plenty of way to avoid getting one hit in arenas
onyx vale
mop pvp was fun yes
but pvp demonology and pve demonology didnt have a whole lot in common
charred onyx
unlike shadowlands where it was all damage and at times felt like zero counterplay
thick reef
Mop was peak pvp
charred onyx
i never liked arms again after MoP ended
fury became way more fun comparitively even though arms was always better in pvp
hot sierra
How does ret look against fury or arms? I have argument with my friend who states that ret rapes war in all circumstances
onyx vale
arms was nice in legion (pve wise)
charred onyx
i honestly dont know how ret is doing. it doesnt seem the same power as fury, dh, or dk
onyx vale
but yes ever since wod completly fucked the spec arms has never been the same
ret players seem to cry its the end of the world
but they always do that
charred onyx
i honestly havnt been killed by a paladin yet but i also havnt come across many of them yet
wheat jay
@near delta yo, need help my guy
steep granite
anyone else literally wanting to rip their teeth out due to all the bigdebuffs errors?
hot sierra
My friend is not even paladin main, he's evoker which is even more gay but still. Warr is one of those classes who can take down the bubble
steep granite
it just randomly breaks everything
charred onyx
what is bigdebuffs
hot sierra
He's whining about blind and oneshoting warrior or something, pure bullshit
steep granite
what is bigdebuffs
an addon where u can display what u want on top of nameplates/unitframes and raid frames
works very good with plater, like i got CC on the right via bigdebuffs and active cooldowns on top of the nameplate
charred onyx
i use threat plates and i think that lets me do that by itself but i havnt messed with it much
steep granite
it is good when u want to separate buffs/ccs/cooldowns, as most addons don't let you put specific stuff at certain parts of the nameplate
near delta
<@269360402800836613> yo, need help my guy
Yo what's up?
charred onyx
@hot sierra fury does pretty well against the damage dragon
wheat jay
Yo what's up?
macro, arena123 for enemy, but if there's no arena or no enemy, it just uses skill on my target
possible?
near delta
macro, arena123 for enemy, but if there's no arena or no enemy, it just uses ski...
No arena and no enemy? 
wheat jay
if there are arena targets, uses on arena1, but if there's no arena, it will use it on my current target
opaque quarry
wut?
reef flare
lime fossil
do u guys think warr will be stronger than dk now
lime fossil
i'm not sure thats how video games work lol
hazy isle
but yes ever since wod completly fucked the spec arms has never been the same
How did arms get fucked? I wasnt around back then so idk
hazy isle
How so
opaque quarry
i'm not sure thats how video games work lol
I use touch screen, so when I see a DK I just punch my monitor. Insta-dead.
charred onyx
slam no longer did meaningful damage, i think that was when overpower was turned into a filler ability to stack mortal strike damage
lime fossil
I use touch screen, so when I see a DK I just punch my monitor. Insta-dead.
sounds like avg warr gameplay
hazy isle
I c. Thanks
opaque quarry
sounds like avg warr gameplay
🙂
lime fossil
just punch charge then punch execute
charred onyx
now servers are up
onyx vale
basically arms warrior in mop revolved around mortal strike being free, giving you charges of overpower and those charges of overpower could give you taste of blood, to make your next heroic strike deal 100% more damage
wod arms was based around " few but meaningful buttons "
which means you lose overpower, you lost heroic strike, you lost everything
charred onyx
also i distinctly remember in later patches, slam could do some chunky damage
onyx vale
and spent 90% of your time spamming whirlwind
onyx vale
you also lost second wind, banners and everything that made warrior fun in pvp
wheat jay
truly based class
charred onyx
fury has been a funner spec since WoD without exception to me
onyx vale
a flaw they fixed recently adding some much needed depth
we didn't even have intervention ffs
charred onyx
ya the only redeeming fact of WoDs changes to warrior was that i think fury was more interesting
charred onyx
ya
onyx vale
mop fury was also very good
charred onyx
i still demand them to bring back the old version of ascendance for enhancement
charred onyx
those lightning hands
i enjoyed the bursty feeling of sudden death fury in WoD, i always avoided fury in MoP because it felt way more rng based
noble stream
Ur not factoring in cshb procs, blood craze stacking, or contempt under 35%. But...
But I am...
onyx vale
well there was storm bolt critting or not critting which was a pretty big deal considering the damage
but no I can not recommend wod warrior to anyone, even thinking about it makes me mad
perhaps I have anger issues
charred onyx
execute hits with both hands so in pvp i would still execute. hoping to proc the bleed on execute phase is risky versus just executing
onyx vale
oh and also mop arms overpower was on half gcd, which made for very fast paced combat coupled with off gcd heroic strike
damn i miss mop
near delta
if there are arena targets, uses on arena1, but if there's no arena, it will use...
Umm I
quick carbon
but no I can not recommend wod warrior to anyone, even thinking about it makes m...
I loved wod warrior tho execute was busted
lean burrow
are there any addons to show if there are gaps between my casts?
near delta
Umm I
Servers don't seem to really work at the moment but I think /cast [@arena1, exists, nodead][@target] disarm will work
lean burrow
i have some weird lag on high haste
near delta
For example
sand lichen
Slam is shit now for arms in pvp? not worthy to talent into? new to warrior
wheat jay
Servers don't seem to really work at the moment but I think `/cast [@arena1, exi...
pogu
quick carbon
Slam is shit now for arms in pvp? not worthy to talent into? new to warrior
I’m pretty sure slam is baseline
but I never hit the spec
Spell*
sand lichen
there few talents to improve it, still doesn't feel like much
quick carbon
not worth
sand lichen
ty
opaque quarry
Just go Fury and zug.
sand lichen
fury feels fun in mythic
opaque quarry
don’t let them corrupt you
wheat jay
Servers don't seem to really work at the moment but I think `/cast [@arena1, exi...
now, at which point do i add mods ;D
sand lichen
i can't imagine keeping up with that faceroll AND tracking what's going around
hazy isle
Well fury pve is torture. Boring af
opaque quarry
Tbh it's not bad w/ the Fury build in the pins. It's like 2 buttons outside CDs.
elfin surge
waxen oasis
How do I show stuff on enemy nameplates like off/def cooldowns?
opaque quarry
Well fury pve is torture. Boring af
How is it boring?
hazy isle
How is it boring?
I get bored when i do it
opaque quarry
<a:chatting:1036769769543704576>
YEAH YOUR BUILD. 🙂
quick carbon
There’s a rumor going around that if you play fury, females just avoid you like the plague, idk how true it is but I’d just avoid fury just incase
charred onyx
arms is clunky which makes it boring to me
opaque quarry
I get bored when i do it
Thanks for the helpful insight lol..
elfin surge
YEAH YOUR BUILD. 🙂
hazy isle
Thanks for the helpful insight lol..
YW
sand lichen
There’s a rumor going around that if you play fury, females just avoid you like ...
i can get my freedom back. zug zug
quick carbon
i can get my freedom back. zug zug
Based and true
sand lichen
do you need def stance in pvp?
charred onyx
you will definitely want it in arena
sand lichen
is it situational or just constant in def?
charred onyx
but you dont have to take it in regular pvp if you dont want to
well arms has always had defense stance, you put it on when you need it and swap to damage stance when you can get away with it
sand lichen
ty
near delta
now, at which point do i add mods ;D
What do you want the mods to do?
wheat jay
mod for arena1, arena2, arena3
opaque quarry
Or.. Hear me out.. Go Fury and not use dstance. 🙂
sand lichen
how complex do you want it to be?
sand lichen
#showtooltip
/use [mod:altshift,@party4,exists,nodead][mod:ctrlalt,@party3,exists,nodead][mod:shift,@party2,exists,nodead][mod:ctrl,@party1,exists,nodead][@mouseover,exists,help,nodead][] somespell
sand lichen
this macro i used to heal without targeting
#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift,@focus,exists,nodead][@mouseover,exists,harm,nodead] [] somespell
this macro with cast with shift over your focus, if not them on hover, if not then regular cast
stiff dust
I sim higher with the poly/hast build than poly/crit build, is this normal as an arm war?
wheat jay
ok it seemed to work
i think
now i wonder another thing, how do i want to place my macros xD
spice hornet
I sim higher with the poly/hast build than poly/crit build, is this normal as ...
you can't really sim pvp
steep granite
anyone tried Single minded fury vs 2 handed?
spice hornet
You can if you play fury
You can’t, but go off sis
thick reef
Untill they significantly rework smf, TG will remain king
spice hornet
Spewing ignorant shit
opaque quarry
Lol
molten dagger
which drakebreaker pieces should we pick up?
opaque quarry
anyone tried Single minded fury vs 2 handed?
In regards to PvP or in general? Because either one, SMF will do less.
steep granite
In regards to PvP or in general? Because either one, SMF will do less.
and i guess if u get speed enchant on gear, then it will be even less useful
full quiver
never @ me again with ur dribble
steep granite
speed enchant is the play, right?
opaque quarry
and i guess if u get speed enchant on gear, then it will be even less useful
For weps? Yes, cause then you're wasting a speed enchant when you could be doing prim stat.
opaque quarry
Gotcha. I'd go leech then personally. Speed is fun but meh. No actual value to it.
silk flicker
fury still the go-to for pvp this time around?
fresh horizon
anyone tried Single minded fury vs 2 handed?
SMF is weaker. Being able to ignore those talents let’s you grab more impactful ones
dusky parrot
I dueled a fury that was using a shield and 2h. Barely doing any dps but blocking massively. Got me thinking. Can you make a synergistic build wihh the other classes to make a shield fury optimal?
little lava
thick reef
I dueled a fury that was using a shield and 2h. Barely doing any dps but blockin...
Just be a prot
dusky parrot
But with fury abilities. Like hot blood cold steel. Would revenge- actually yeah just play prot
Prot brings higher power than just fury shield Lmfaoo
green wyvern
Prot pumps
silk flicker
wait is prot actually viable for arenas?
sharp meteor
Depends on your definition or interpretation of viable.
silk flicker
your response makes me think rather go fury, huh
silk flicker
fairly new to pvp but the mount looks sick so i'm hoping to at least try for glad
sharp meteor
Fury with enh/feral/havoc probably easiest time
then w/e the most enabling healer
participation gonna be out of this world so should be an easy time
hazy isle
Fury with enh/feral/havoc probably easiest time
what bout ret/war lol
noble rune
do I have to buy crit/vers or mast/vers for gloves?
simple rock
crit vers for arms
mastery vers for fury
although you could play mastery for arms as well
if you wanna gear both
simple rock
my man
real ones hate fury
weird how honor badge is haste but conq one is crit
guess more haste is never bad tho
quick carbon
nah fuck fury
Based and true
noble rune
Im afraid of losing braincells playing it
idk
never got warm with it. hate it since titan grip
thick reef
Once I took the no raging blows talent it felt better.
copper hare
never got warm with it. hate it since titan grip
so you hate it since wotlk?
keen coral
Annihilator fury feels a bit better in terms of gameplay than RB spam fury, but it still ends up just being a 2 button spam snooze
low sparrow
wait is prot actually viable for arenas?
Whoever plays tank in arena deserves to get hit with a bus
low sparrow
Lmao
cinder thorn
Has anyone tested single-minded fury? It doesn't seem to give me an extra 5% run speed in character screen or when I time myself running a set distance
With two 1handers of course
Also, can a warrior be disarmed during ww?
warm portal
Also, can a warrior be disarmed during ww?
If you mean bladestorm, no
thorn escarp
Whoever plays tank in arena deserves to get hit with a bus
Xd it hits harder then arms and fury combined I’m hitting 110k shieldcharge and 70k shockwave
low sparrow
Disgusting
cinder thorn
If you mean bladestorm, no
Yes and thx
elfin surge
wheat jay
Man knows who to ping lmao
elfin surge
amber heron
does anyone know why haste and crit is above mastery for fury in pvp?
your haste makes you generate more fury, which in turn, makes you enraged more so wouldnt you benefit over having mastery over crit
haste is undeniably the best stat bc you do more damage all of the time and not just when you are enraged
also just makes you have faster globals
sly walrus
brazen rock
uh
im going vers hast mast crit
mast is pretty dank considering we have 100% enrage uptime
near delta
does anyone know why haste and crit is above mastery for fury in pvp?
It's not. Where did you hear that?
Or maybe I'm getting pastad again. It's hard to tell in this channel of degenerates lol
brazen rock
cool?
spice hornet
is he a good warrr
sly walrus
hes also a fucking retard
Sounds like he should do the pins for here
amber heron
their skill definitly translates to other classes
brazen rock
Sounds like he should do the pins for here
spice hornet
warrior pvp discord gotta be the most trolled
elfin surge
bro hes a good player
he qs with tanks
brazen rock
he qs with tanks
fury/protpal/evoker y/n
amber heron
u guys have such huge egos its weird
brazen rock
u guys have such huge egos its weird
ye its massive
elfin surge
u guys have such huge egos its weird
only @spice hornet
amber heron
can u give me a mathematical reason as to what stat is better
brazen rock
can u give me a mathematical reason as to what stat is better
nah its tuesday
reset day
busy
amber heron
so why did u respond
brazen rock
maybe ask ur streamer to give numbers
amber heron
fucking loser man
brazen rock
LOL
elfin surge
can u give me a mathematical reason as to what stat is better
for fury?
amber heron
yes
spice hornet
elfin surge
check pins
drowsy wasp
anyone tested arms?
elfin surge
Vers > Haste > Mastery
brazen rock
anyone tested arms?
still dog
near delta
flarkness tv
Oh flark generally has an idea of what he's talking about but crit over mastery on fury doesn't make much sense at all
brazen rock
i still have to sit in def stance all day and do -20% dmg
sly walrus
I can sell u arms pve cope
formal creek
is arms great again?
For real?
near delta
Like even on a pve level
amber heron
why play arms when fury has more healing and more survivability
even if it does more damage
clever mango
It doesn’t
sly walrus
ST it does
amber heron
it doesnt what
near delta
warrior pvp discord gotta be the most trolled
It's almost as if we're entirely unmoderated outside of randomly nuking the entire channel with no warning
clever mango
Fury still does better dmg in pvp lol. Arms just might have better burst now that it’s dam isn’t nerfed
clever mango
Dumb nerf
amber heron
what was their explanation
clever mango
But was being used to cheese ppl
brazen rock
what was their explanation
skull splitter shit
amber heron
that is like a bleed one shot right
it takes all ur bleeeds and crompresses it into 1
spice hornet
sooo many arms warriors running around one shotting everyone with skullsplitter
super problematic
amber heron
something like that
clever mango
Yeah
amber heron
yea i havent seen it
drowsy wasp
ive only seen 1 shot from windwalker
clever mango
In which case idk why they nerfed Rend instead of the skullsplitter talent
But w/e
I’m not a dev wtf do I know
hazy isle
Lost the one shot skullsplitter
Its over armsbros
amber heron
maybe they could make overpower do more damage as well
then it would bring the spec up a bit
elfin surge
need d stance changed
brazen rock
the damage is playable
clever mango
Meh. Arms dmg isn’t the issue. It’s that they flop
hazy isle
my tooltop says 20% dam reduction
Not in pvp
amber heron
oh
clever mango
Meanwhile fury gets d stance and warpaint and really good healing and dam and a better ms effect so its like
Why even play arms
elfin surge
elfin surge
rather fury never be viable again
clever mango
Rather arms just be good
hazy isle
Maybe if they nerf the shit out of fury then they could maybe buff arms 🤔
agile granite
rather fury never be viable again
❤️
deft wharf
Just make arms play like in mop, job done
agile granite
Whenever fury is better than arms in arena the game is fucked lol
elfin surge
broken arms counters broken fury.
Buff arms, fury is gone. gg
clever mango
Agree with Moo
deft wharf
Give me back bloodbath bladestorm
clever mango
Give back busted second wind and let me be a raid boss like warlocks
amber heron
i wonder why fury does not get bladestorm
you would think that someone with 2 swords would be better at bladestorming
then 1 sword
deft wharf
Gimme the juicy heroic strikes
elfin surge
@amber heron the type of guy to play SMF
amber heron
what is smf?
clever mango
I just don’t like fury cuz it’s literal braindead spec. I know arms isn’t necessarily complex either but man fury is so braindead is just isnt even fun
That’s my only problem with it tbh
amber heron
what is smf???
deft wharf
Hell, bring back all the banners for intervene
clever mango
Bannervene was fun and allowed me to shit on mages and hunters and it was glorious
But alot of people hated banners so
amber heron
@elfin surge your healing scales with your stamina so i tihnk 2h is just better
but if your playing vs casters the speed might be nice
clever mango
If you’re playing vs casters the only nice thing is when the match is over tbh
Locks and spriests disgusting
brazen rock
yeah play smf, do 7ish% less dmg overall so you have even less chance to win
clever mango
Spriest seem out of control with the cc. They got disorient, fear, root, stun, mc
brazen rock
the movespeed from smf wont help you lmao
clever mango
Like it was busted when destro locks had root tied to their conflag, so they gave it to spriest instead. Tf
amber heron
will the season be a caster meta then?
demo lock + sp + evoker
or mw
maybe i will start leveling my ele sham to play ele lock
clever mango
I mean I’m no expert so I don’t know. Hard to say with alot of tuning still to go but
If I had to guess you’ll see alot of rogue/mage and caster comps
patent musk
Fuck Fury, dont care if its better, Arms is good, hits like a drunk uncle and we´re not ment to heal like a fury, i killl i die and i love it
spice burrow
so you haven't played warrior for a while then
amber heron
i just started playing in shadowlands
clever mango
I’d be willing to bet like a solid 80% of warriors that PvP would rather be arms than fury.
glossy island
Can u link your arms bu8ld becket?
patent musk
give me a sec
patent musk
Can u link your arms bu8ld becket?
warrior tree you can change thing at your taste
but thats what i like and run
glossy island
Ty
sonic hawk
So I've never PvP'd before so forgive my ignorance but is arms even a bit more interesting to play compared to the fury 2 button spam?
patent musk
So I've never PvP'd before so forgive my ignorance but is arms even a bit more i...
100%
sonic hawk
And I'm guessing that arms is still a decent spec to play even if fury is stronger
patent musk
people dont like arms atm cause´ it cant survive with autoheals like fury, thats it, hit more than fury, and im sure that self heal on Fury will be nerfed, copium.
formal creek
the fact that arms has like a million talents nerfed in pvp sucks so hard.
you see a talent, you get excited
only to be majorly let down
patent musk
neee
brazen rock
every melee has ways to either self sustain or kite rn.
arms doesn't.
this is why arms is F tier.
patent musk
Arms > Fury, period
but if you like fury then meh, play fury and have fun 2 buttons
or play DH, they have 3
sonic hawk
Nah fuck DHs
But seeing how easy it is to get pvp gear rn I'll just give arms a shot and see how I like it
patent musk
Mortal Strike hit 100% now, set up your overpower buff + hurricane and hit MS, see arms and legs fly everywhere
sonic hawk
big damage sounds good enough
patent musk
i dont need to survive if i kill them first
sonic hawk
Yeah exactly
patent musk
naa but real talk, for me Arms is fun, Fury is not, thats why i play Arms, i prefer to play Prot than Fury
stuck mulch
u can at least kite their damage
kite thier dmg? how :monka wont u just die from dots
sonic hawk
naa but real talk, for me Arms is fun, Fury is not, thats why i play Arms, i pre...
Yeah the 2 button spam is pretty meh so as long as arms isn't absolute dogshit I think I'll be happy
restive nimbus
What trinkets do I go for as human?
stuck mulch
<@323893103062810624> i mean u have a healer
maybe you have a healer ....
stuck mulch
a distant future im looking foward to
amber heron
demos damage is literally like unavoidable
my frames drop
the pet is just like raping me
then out of nowhere a portal is summoned
spice hornet
hot lol
spice hornet
is this the new bruin
thorn herald
Arms bad 1v1 class more at 11
spice hornet
amber heron
wb when he drain lifes to full hp
spice hornet
press pummel
amber heron
casting circle
spice hornet
bolt it fear it line it lol
iron basalt
alright what is the verdict on arms? is it viable? is fury still better?
amber heron
fury is still better
mint tinsel
So what’s the big difference between shattering and wrecking throw? Obviously shattering gets rid of immune does wrecking damage carry over shields to do heath dam?
amber heron
not sure thats a good question
keen coral
45 sec CD vs 3min CD
brazen rock
it does not carry over.
mint tinsel
So probably better then to just stick with shattering throw for immune I imagine?
keen coral
If they have an immunity like bubble, play shatter. If they have big shields like dark pact or life cocoon, play wrecking. if they have neither, play neither
For wpvp or BGs then I guess whatever floats your boat
drowsy abyss
Still left side for arms-talents (skullsplitter build)?
brazen rock
So probably better then to just stick with shattering throw for immune I imagine...
i play wrecking most games
keen coral
Bleed build was garbage pre-nerf, and has now been nerfed, so...
mint tinsel
For sure appreciate the feedback
charred meadow
is there still the option to join bgs as the opposit faction ?
kinda only get the hordes that lose
undone pumice
some alliance armor dude is there in the vendor house
hes bald
talk to him and u fight for alli
void quest
haste or mastery for fury?
night verge
void quest
ty
spice hornet
@elfin surge yo u might wanna stop queueing, Orchillez is queueing on his DH
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> yo u might wanna stop queueing, Orchillez is queueing on h...
shut up
charred meadow
paint me like one of ur french girls
craggy socket
WTF IS WITH THIS THESE DEMON HUTNERS MAN
Why the fuck does blizzard not give a fuck about the most braindead shit
This is insane
Can't wait til the next patch notes when blizzard destroys warriors self healing and DH's get a slap on the wrist
spice hornet
fuuu bruin is that you
onyx vale
i wanna play arms so i don't care
but give me back ignore pain tho
arms shouldnt be the squishiest spec in the game
thick reef
umm it's 4 buttons tyvm
undone pumice
ah ye its bt into ht into bt into rampage mb
full axle
How is arms feeling so far with buff?
wheat crane
Like its gonna ride the bench all season
thick reef
I've seen a couple smack but then get smacked
full axle
Sad, it’s my fav spec
craggy socket
Atleast fury has to press buttons for their healing
warm pollen
any pvp talent tree for boomy?
full axle
any pvp talent tree for boomy?
The talent tree for boomy is go guardian
thick reef
I think they mean against boomkin
wheat crane
Check the pins in dreamgrove
thick reef
waiting for my talents to be specific for every comp
warm pollen
Gtfo with your drood , war discord here
yeah dude wrong chat my bad LOL
wheat crane
I think they mean against boomkin
You give too much credit
warm pollen
i thought i was in the dru disc my bad
undone pumice
impressive
hard hound
^^
thick reef
damn I have some hope
undone pumice
now lets see paul allen's pins
wheat crane
Its ok youre forgiven just check the fucking pins
thick reef
but this is awarrior disc, we have combined iq of 20
warm pollen
The talent tree for boomy is go guardian
is guardian op af in pvp rn ?
undone pumice
but this is awarrior disc, we have combined iq of 20
20??? you think we is mages?
we is not that kind of orc
wheat crane
now lets see paul allen's pins
full axle
is guardian op af in pvp rn ?
Yes lol
warm pollen
lol
thick reef
Does drakebreakers set bonus work in arena?
craggy igloo
is arms good now?
hard hound
Pin that plz
thick reef
it is a pvp set only reason I asked, does the trink set bonus not work in arena?
thick reef
before dh nerf ofc
hard hound
Atm decent ? You get os by any spec in the game
You play in bg full gear Vs 200 k hp ppl it’s why you call arms decent
quick carbon
You play in bg full gear Vs 200 k hp ppl it’s why you call arms decent
No arms damage pre buff was already fine
hard hound
It’s not the damages the problem of the arms spec
thick reef
315K healing a match
almost a lay on hands
hard hound
Even with the 40% health increase arms get destroyed
quick carbon
Once fury and dh and locks get their righteous nerf arms will be Gucci
hard hound
This cobalt ring is insane healing boys
100% nerf next week
thick reef
lol locks getting nerfed
spare karma
Warrior noob here. Who do you guys recomend for warrior pvp guides?
thick reef
us
spare karma
Fair enough
I wanna try the class, I was looking for a starter build which I could jump into and then adjust to my likeing if necessary. I just am not familiar with warrior content creators
craggy socket
Idk man arms warrior just destroyed me
thick reef
I wanna try the class, I was looking for a starter build which I could jump into...
look at the pins there is a fury warr talent setup
main urchin
I've played an Arms Warrior exclusively since Vanilla launched, with barely any alts, and almost exclusively PVP.
I am currently Fury.
reef geode
bleed skullsplitter build is quite fun this was vs a 300k HP shaman https://gfycat.com/ShortWetGiantschnauzer
hard hound
Idk man arms warrior just destroyed me
You just ungeared or you played bad
main urchin
You can stack up some big shots with Arms, but comparing the two... Fury pretty nasty.
hard hound
bleed skullsplitter build is quite fun this was vs a 300k HP shaman https://gfyc...
300k is ungeared , got 400 k hp in BG
main urchin
Ungeared is an exaggeration.
thick reef
its not
main urchin
Certainly lower end ya
Ungeared? They definately have some stuff.
Fully.. different story 100%
hard hound
300k hp with buff mean you miss at least 7-8 411 item
spare karma
look at the pins there is a fury warr talent setup
Thanks!
main urchin
Didn't see the buff, my bad.
hard hound
So ungeared vs guy who are full 411
craggy socket
This is buggiest xpac ive ever played
my UI finds another way to be fucked up daily
reef geode
@hard hound I am only 340k hp myself so vs a 300k shaman kinda same ilvl
hard hound
But arms can deal good damages yes
hard hound
<@208704912106848266> I am only 340k hp myself so vs a 300k shaman kinda same il...
340 k buffed ?
reef geode
unbuffed
hard hound
You destroy a 300k buffed so
With buff you get 400 k hp
I os everything is lower than 300 k in bg
hard hound
bleed skullsplitter build is quite fun this was vs a 300k HP shaman https://gfyc...
Lmao
reef geode
I am in a normal BG xD
hard hound
300k hp and 351 ilvl
Get reckt by full gear arms
Waite to play arms in arena you will cry tears of blood atm
reef geode
Ill give it a go 😄
hard hound
Even with a 200% buff ms
1 go and you die no matter what
Deal damage is good but stay alive is better
brazen rock
uh
im full 411 or w/e
355kish hp as fury
nobodies hitting 400k without stam buff and bg food.
short sable
Drakebreaker 2/4 set worth it?
hard hound
Bro just read the chat @brazen rock
brazen rock
Drakebreaker 2/4 set worth it?
disabled in instanced pvp.
brazen rock
Bro just read the chat <@229750069367275522>
no
hard hound
I say 400 k buffed
short sable
disabled in instanced pvp.
big sadge
hard hound
I got 400 k buffed in bg as fury
hard hound
Lock get 450 or more
hard hound
retard hours in <#897055819475091456>
Good night
brazen rock
proud ether
can i make a 1 button macro that switches stances from berserker to defensive?
elfin escarp
So is Arms OP yet?
hard hound
So is Arms OP yet?
No
copper hare
I'm gonna give you an op one wait
hard hound
#showtooltip
/cast [spec:1, nostance] Battle Stance; [spec:2, nostance] Berserker Stance; [spec:1, stance:1] Battle Stance; [spec:1, stance:2] Defensive Stance; [spec:2, stance:1] Berserker Stance; [spec:2, stance:2] Defensive Stance
You can use it in all spec
@proud ether
proud ether
ty homie
hard hound
😉
spice hornet
Been testing both today full geared healer 3s skirms and fury still seems to be a little better, the damage is chunkier on arms at times, but fury is just constant dmg, bigger ms, and all that self healing.
drowsy wasp
How is fury bigger MS?
high sparrow
So is Arms OP yet?
arms isnt gonna be op until it gets defensive buffs
drowsy wasp
Arms is 50%
undone ermine
What's the difference in survivability feel like Qfiend? I did some pvp last week and I feel like I was made of paper.
high sparrow
like its been said 20 times here, doing damage is good but doesnt matter if you die on the second go
copper hare
How is fury bigger MS?
you're trolling
high sparrow
What's the difference in survivability feel like Qfiend? I did some pvp last wee...
fury is very tanky playing bloodbath build
drowsy wasp
you're trolling
Slaughterhouse is 40%?
high sparrow
perma 10% wall + bloodthirst / battle trance
spice hornet
What's the difference in survivability feel like Qfiend? I did some pvp last wee...
still feels that way, sometimes feel perma dead
into real teams