what might be an issue is druid and shaman hybrid healing
#pvp
thick reef
Hell druid self healing is absurd on top of the everything else they have
quick carbon
fury also has the best ms in the game ontop of insane healing idk
broken scaffold
I am torn between ar ms and fury.. anyone got a good arms pvp build
thick reef
Their self healing isn't even the best. Nor is an MS special
quick carbon
a 40% ms that can be kept up near perma uptime is a big deal
rotund thunder
fury ms is single target though
thick reef
Are you just, not aware, of other classes kits?
rotund thunder
If arms ever gets good again they can AoE apply it
brazen rock
brazen rock
you can’t sit here and say fury ms is fine
watch me
quick carbon
I mean you CAN say it. You just sound really dumb
brazen rock
buddy your the one saying arms is good
pallid sentinel
fury's MS is fine
brazen rock
lmao
elfin surge
40% perma ms is toxic and bad for the game
quick carbon
fury mains kekw
pallid sentinel
everyone silence - MUD is speaking
onyx vale
half the classes in the game having ms is bad for the game
forest sinew
ok ty <333
elfin surge
half the classes in the game having ms is bad for the game
true
elfin surge
only ones that should have an ms is arms ww and rogue. Arms should have the strongest
thick reef
Playing fury right now just feels like playing other classes. I think warriors are just so used to having less (that they use very well) that any new addition feels broken.
Your arguing fury needs a nerf when it's a middle of the pack spec right now.
broken scaffold
Is there a spot in the disc to find builds for arms and fury ?
onyx vale
don't forget precision hunter since they had it since vanilla
and delete monks for stealing improved hamstring
perfect game
quick carbon
Playing fury right now just feels like playing other classes. I think warriors a...
If you think warrior has always had less than other classes you must not have played shadowlands
tribal wedge
Playing fury right now just feels like playing other classes. I think warriors a...
Warrior was top tier for shadowland
thick reef
You misunderstand me.
tribal wedge
Maybe
thick reef
They tend to have less in their kit overall, but what's there works very very well.
mild ermine
Is there a spot in the disc to find builds for arms and fury ?
Pinned comment bud
full quiver
only ones that should have an ms is arms ww and rogue. Arms should have the stro...
what about your favorite, fury
quick carbon
They tend to have less in their kit overall, but what's there works very very we...
Arms had the most bloated kit in shadowlands tho lmao
drowsy wasp
arms is vers>crit>haste?
quick carbon
I think u go crit for arms yeah
rotund thunder
Huh? Mastery is bleed damage
thick reef
arms
quick carbon
Mastery is a flat damage increase
rotund thunder
I thoguht it was deep wounds
quick carbon
whenever you have ur bleed on them
thick reef
versa > Crit > Mastery > Haste
quick carbon
crit is better because it also gives you more rage
haste also gives more rage but haste is dookie for arms imo
rotund thunder
Pawn has it crit > haste > mast > vers using Archi's string
So does mastery just not scale for shit in PvE and only becomes useful in PvP because the short encounters?
north kernel
Anyone got a decent arms pvp build just for doing random bgs for fun?
tribal wedge
The little haste bonus will give you maybe 0.05 auto faster, and 0.1 cd on MS
lunar stump
any top warriors playing arms atm? looking for a build?
rotund thunder
probably just the execute/bleed build with sweeping strikes
lunar stump
what execute bleed build
quick carbon
I’ve been using the right side of the tree down to executioners pres with sharpened blades then grabbing battle lord
Ignoring every bleed talent
And just hitting big ms
rotund thunder
also gives you rage to re apply rend
lunar stump
Ignoring every bleed talent
same, i’ve been finding the bleeds do such little damage
quick carbon
Bleed spec is cringe do big ms spec
lunar stump
also gives you rage to re apply rend
how
quick carbon
skullsplitter generates 20 rage
rotund thunder
how
That's what skullcrush does
the idea is to charge ->csmash -> rend->skullcrush->rend/ms depending on rage
lunar stump
the idea is to charge ->csmash -> rend->skullcrush->rend/ms depending on rage
csmash before ms ?
rotund thunder
of course
rotund thunder
Fury is fantastic
but yeah, you're squish
that's just melee dps that isn't named DH though
jagged cedar
i wish the pvp build wasnt to drop raging blow
feels so weird to me
feels illegal
near delta
i wish the pvp build wasnt to drop raging blow
It's our demon blades lol
brazen rock
you really dont use slam much at all.
elfin surge
but yeah, you're squish
?
rotund thunder
If your other things are down you do
quick carbon
but yeah, you're squish
Fury warrior is one of the hardest dps to kill what do you mean it’s squish
elfin surge
skyhold pvp chat slowly turning into the mage cord
brazen rock
rotund thunder
?
In bgs? You sure as shit are. Have you had more than two people look in your direction without a pocket healer on you?
Like sure, when I'm 1v1ing someone and I don't get cc'd I'll self heal myself to victory
jagged cedar
plenty of classes die with more than 2 people and no healer lol
elfin surge
In bgs? You sure as shit are. Have you had more than two people look in your dir...
dude?
rotund thunder
I said that, melee is squish
brazen rock
ever press frenzied regen?
quick carbon
You’re all on copium
jagged cedar
you ever try and 3v1 a ww monk and you and two homies get 1 shotted from ToD
elfin surge
In bgs? You sure as shit are. Have you had more than two people look in your dir...
sure u talking about fury?
have u tried arms?
rotund thunder
All I said is that in bgs you die fast?
The person before said 'are you sure warrior is good I die fast" and I said yeah, that's melee dps. You're squish unless you're a dh and can go 'lol you can't hit me'
scarlet barn
Ofc you die fast if all 10 players nuke you
Or you overextend
Or you are playing wrong
👀
quick carbon
Fury warrior mains oooooof
scarlet barn
Fury def isnt as squishy as you making it to be
brazen rock
Fury warrior mains oooooof
u alright bro?
lucid walrus
save the victim complex for when you’re posting in the blue, white or yellow classes’ servers tbh
lunar stump
The person before said 'are you sure warrior is good I die fast" and I said yeah...
can i get arms war advice from someone who doesn’t think fury is squishy
elfin surge
enraged regen is 11 seconds of immortality
zenith marlin
I cant even 1v3 anymore T^T
elfin surge
no just fury mains
quick carbon
true
zenith marlin
what even is rmp
proven maple
I thought the deep wounds healing buff was going to save arms?
quick carbon
arms mains admit when their spec is broken
proven maple
So more tanky
elfin surge
what even is rmp
fr?
zenith marlin
ye
brazen rock
Fury mains act like the spec is c tier
nobodies defending fury self healing anymore, you can stop
quick carbon
the name rmp gives pvpers nightmares
elfin surge
proven maple
Fury has been trash till the last two seasons of shadowlands though. Basically once people realized how ridiculous the 40% MS is. And the arms d-stance nerf is still felt.
zenith marlin
fury was trash for a decade until shadowlands literally
quick carbon
fury should always be worse than arms in pvp imo
zenith marlin
then arms got trash
proven maple
Arms just needs to be able to live better and this stupid deep wounds healing trickle isn’t what’s needed to make that happen
zenith marlin
? so mages warlocks rogues and hunters can nit pick their pvp spec but we cant?
crude sentinel
fury should always be worse than arms in pvp imo
if the trade-off means arms is always worse in pve.
elfin surge
make it 20/20
real
zenith marlin
we get a tradeoff but they dont nice kekw
safe lantern
So is arms just trash rn in pvp
elfin surge
So is arms just trash rn in pvp
we will see
safe lantern
elfin surge
hard to tell the strength of arms until the pvp season
zenith marlin
only reason arms isnt trash is because the player base at this point plays only with spinal reflexes
quick carbon
? so mages warlocks rogues and hunters can nit pick their pvp spec but we cant?
I mean tbh I can’t imagine anyone preferring fury over arms
formal creek
i wanna stay arms so bad
quick carbon
just stay arms then
zenith marlin
I loved arms when Bladestorm actually killed ppl instead do 25% of their max hp every min
quick carbon
if you’re just trying to get ur elite set you can do it as arms no problem
zenith marlin
Now its like a dot applier and root break xd
was it in BFA when bladestorm randomly procced out of the blue? like even in stuns? was hilarious
proven maple
I prefer arms but fury really is better. You don’t just die like arms does. It’s copium to believe otherwise. But yes. Arms needs something to make it live better.
zenith marlin
Bladestorm hits less than Echoing Reprimand bruh
proven maple
The damage is fine though
zenith marlin
And The Hunt
elfin surge
arms is the more fun and skillful spec but its pure misery playing it rn
getting trained into sitting D all game isnt fun
zenith marlin
fury and arms share all the "skillful" aspects bruh wym
proven maple
Yep
zenith marlin
they are base warrior spells now xd
rotund thunder
Unga bungaing to full rage?
quick carbon
OH HITTING RAMPAGE HERE OH I PROCCED RECK HITTING RAMPAGE AGAIN
zenith marlin
bruh u hit overpower and mortal strike
quick carbon
OOOOOOH HUGE MS
zenith marlin
and mortal strike and overpower
scarlet barn
I love warrior, but warrior mains are as delusional as rmp players
what you refering to atm
quick carbon
Fury warriors LITERALLY only hit bloodthirst and rampage
brazen rock
spec elitists are worse than fotm rerollres
zenith marlin
there is about no diff in gameplay
brazen rock
jesus christ
proven maple
I guarantee without a survivability buff arms will be misery to try to push glad on
copper hare
spec elitists are worse than fotm rerollres
+1
rotund thunder
Fury warriors LITERALLY only hit bloodthirst and rampage
That's not fair, sometimes fury hits odyn's fury or wrecking throw
lunar stump
any top war players playing arms rn ?
copper hare
yikes and cringe
but you are the cringe one capslocking if you havent realized
serene cobalt
what exactly is wrong with arms atm?
brazen rock
what exactly is wrong with arms atm?
survivability.
elfin surge
any top war players playing arms rn ?
no
quick carbon
fam neither fury nor arms has a complicated rotation
Arms has more utility buttons making it more skillful
rotund thunder
They have the same utility buttosn now?
quick carbon
war banner duel bladestorm
proven maple
Arms can’t live. That’s the only problem. And it’ll get worse with the current big burst classes gaining ilvl
quick carbon
bladestorming cc while putting yourself on dr as arms is cooler than anything fury does
brazen rock
bladestorming cc while putting yourself on dr as arms is cooler than anything fu...
🆗
play the spec you enjoy
dont poop on people for playing a spec they enjoy
elfin surge
proven maple
A good war banner has always been very satisfying too. Completely stops a teams setup
brazen rock
this spec elitism is such utter cringe
elfin surge
brazen rock
its a 15yo fucking video game
jagged cedar
you guys are arguing a 3 button spec and a 4 button spec lol everyone chill we are same class ehre
copper hare
What Mud is fury player? since when did he swap from prot
full quiver
Lol
zenith marlin
warbanner kekw reminds me of retris and their hand of freedom
copper hare
full quiver
Mud the prot enthusiast
solar grail
is there a confirmation somewhere about which pvp gear works where. does the honor gear scale up in world pvp?
quick carbon
mud is actually mortalx’s alt
elfin surge
brazen rock
it all scales up
zenith marlin
duel is not rly a skill when everyone targets u cuz ur spec gets one shot
brazen rock
bloody token gear and honor gear.
solar grail
so it all scales up in all pvp and the set bonuses only work in world pvp?
brazen rock
the set bonus on bloody token gear does not work in instanced content
solar grail
cool cool thank you (:
brazen rock
@elfin surge
elfin surge
mave is special
zenith marlin
how is DH s tier kekw
zenith marlin
WIthout their dodge they are all garbage, both as in playerbase and abilities
elfin surge
survivability
zenith marlin
Whoever allowed DHs to dodge half our attacks in Shadowlands should not touch pvp again
T^T
The pain
zenith marlin
prot is s+ tier vs fresh 70s xd
quick carbon
remember blade dance dodge
God don’t remind me of bfa 2s
elfin surge
i heard prot warrior is S+ tier can you confirm <@269709440146604032>
every prot player is a 1300 clicker its hard to tell
solar grail
yo mud you happen to have a fat world pvp build somewhere?
brazen rock
pins
solar grail
oh is there one in there
zenith marlin
I expect that warriors will be garbage in solo shuffle
solar grail
i thought it was all arena
elfin surge
world pvp as war is being ganked and forced into a duel
brazen rock
I expect that warriors will be garbage in solo shuffle
fury will be great.
zenith marlin
we hit and survive but we don't rly deal kill blows as fury very well
brazen rock
ive never heard anyone say dh isnt S tier
dh players
brazen rock
we hit and survive but we don't rly deal kill blows as fury very well
press your buttons harder.
jagged cedar
i dont speak to Dh players haha
brazen rock
50% bonus bb/bt dmg under 35% hits hard bud.
jagged cedar
that discord is so toxic
zenith marlin
DHs were far too broken in prepatch pvp
brazen rock
80k bloodbaths aren't uncommon
zenith marlin
But atm I havent lost a duel vs a DH
quick carbon
eh warlock hits more buttons than dh
scarlet barn
Never
zenith marlin
Evokers before Tinker class T^T
thick reef
Reading this chat, queuing into a bg vs 6 dhs, they all rush for zerker, god bless Odyn's
scarlet barn
we got madeup dragon mage class, dont put tinker in the "never" pile
I just did
brazen rock
I just did
copper hare
wondering when you can play other classes on dragon race
scarlet barn
Never
rare ibex
So I'm confused by the gear. The war mode gear is 408 but only works in war mode and not in arenas and Bgs? And the honor gear is 411 but doesn't work in war mode?
scarlet barn
it works in PVP content
brazen rock
fuck
IT ALL SCALES IN PVP CONTENT
the SET BONUS on war-mode gear does NOT work in instanced content.
zenith marlin
Honor gear shouldnt have scaled above 400 T^T
copper hare
wdym it's waaay better than before, idk how someone can even complain about this gearing system
quick carbon
wow players will always find something to complain ab
brazen rock
yeah cuz fresh 70s having to grind conq gear to even have fun in BGs is good for the game
copper hare
I legit saw a guy complaining that he get stomped by honor geared people in bgs, like what
literally takes half a day to farm full gear
zenith marlin
buddy i dont care whats good for the game, i want whats good for me xd
i imagine its better for the game rn yea
My other, maybe more valid complaint is:
brazen rock
i mean the first one wasn't valid in the slightest so goodluck
zenith marlin
It's so easy to get into pvp now, that ppl will just re-roll into whatever is broken in PvP and entire specs will be dead
copper hare
Nothing is worse than making an alt and having to grind through 135k of honor while queuing into people that have 40 more ilvl
zenith marlin
^ that atleast stopped rerolls
quick carbon
It's so easy to get into pvp now, that ppl will just re-roll into whatever is br...
More like the barrier to entry is so low that more people can get into pvp
copper hare
now you queue half a day of bgs and you're competitive
brazen rock
lol
quick carbon
People always reroller to fotm
gentle horizon
any resource for pvp fury war 10.0?
sly walrus
Isn’t more people in PvP good?
gentle horizon
looking for bis honor gear atm
brazen rock
Isn’t more people in PvP good?
this dude just wants to roll over fresh 70s
sly walrus
this dude just wants to roll over fresh 70s
Just queue snipe mud while he arms copes ez roll over
brazen rock
a currency NA is already basically maxed out on? alright
zenith marlin
But yeah I wonder how many ppl will remain as one of the dead specs in pvp this expansion
gentle horizon
where do i find bis honor gear?
brazen rock
where do i find bis honor gear?
pins
zenith marlin
Swear every patch ppl will change their pvp character in a day
gentle horizon
ty
brazen rock
Swear every patch ppl will change their pvp character in a day
i dont see hordes of DK rerollers
zenith marlin
I played Hpala in Shadowlands cuz it was broken first 2 seasons, and Holy Paladins in aggregate had 50% win rate
brazen rock
still plenty of non-dh players
zenith marlin
50% sounds perfectly balanced right
copper hare
I also never see feral rerollers
zenith marlin
Its because only Holy Paladins played xD
copper hare
anyone tested bg leveling? do you get good xp
gentle horizon
best trinkets?
elfin surge
@knotty atlas update #268491842637660160
rare ibex
MUD for SF and a pin-less society.
warm pollen
yo does it matter if boots + shoulder
gentle horizon
is medallion still good?
elfin surge
SF me so i can keep the #268491842637660160 updated
sly walrus
sly walrus
As it should be
rare ibex
Plot twist: we all died in SL and can never escape because the flow of souls is broken.
thick reef
yo does it matter if boots + shoulder
Probably not the boots, since you can craft the infurious pair
wary harbor
doesnt valkyrs have to update the bot anyways so no need for pvp SF
zenith marlin
are yall using the bleed skullcracker arms build?
wary harbor
gentle horizon
do you guys know the best trinkets? i dont see it in the pin
zenith marlin
sorta fun to see number cloud
elfin surge
do you guys know the best trinkets? i dont see it in the pin
Medallion & Badge/Insignia
gentle horizon
Medallion & Badge/Insignia
tyy
brazen rock
Medallion & Badge/Insignia
which have u been preferring? between badge/insig
warm pollen
does it matter the stat is not the right one ?
warm pollen
Probably not the boots, since you can craft the infurious pair
im doing bracer, belt, boots, gloves, shoulder and helmet
thick reef
@elfin surge just wants to feel like an arms warrior with more buttons to press
elfin surge
i just want to have the highest burst
warm pollen
i have head - shoulder- wrist- waist
warm pollen
i just want to have the highest burst
wich tiers are u using?
i mean, on wich pieces
elfin surge
none
zenith marlin
isnt the infurious items 421
brazen rock
424
zenith marlin
nice why do they exist kekw
elfin surge
not worth ?
i dont even know how to get them
thick reef
Crafting order Mud!
elfin surge
ik the wpvp set bonus doesnt work in arena
zenith marlin
but i suppose the rest does
elfin surge
Crafting order Mud!
ye the 424 crafted is BIS
zenith marlin
the equips
zenith marlin
meh i am sure CP epics wont underperform by that much
elfin surge
it doesnt work inside arenas?
nope, might be a bug tho
thick reef
Consensus on the bloody token items is: get them all, because we might be able to upgrade them early in the season -> ?421 ilvl
afaik
brazen rock
you'll def be able to upgrade a few of them before you get full conq
thick reef
Aye for sure
zenith marlin
do crafting orders get fulfiled timely?
thick reef
Esp. with 2 2handers to buy /cry
lucid walrus
do crafting orders get fulfiled timely?
nobody really uses em rn
thick reef
My boots were made in 10 mins
cloud oak
how many people are using roar over spear in 3v3?
rare ibex
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elfin surge
i imagine both will be played. Spear might be better in arena tho, hard to tell when rated isnt out yet.
icy spruce
ebgs or bgs boys?
thick reef
Roar + bleed dmg amp is so hard to pass up
elfin surge
yo mud, so those bonus tier sets are not bis rn ?
the bloody token ones?
warm pollen
yea
elfin surge
for arena, no
safe glen
can anyone tell me if arms or fury are the way to go in pvp?
elfin surge
cuz they dont work
thick reef
can anyone tell me if arms or fury are the way to go in pvp?
fury rn 😦
warm pollen
oh so they just work for world pvp ?
elfin surge
can anyone tell me if arms or fury are the way to go in pvp?
Fury high A tier melee
safe glen
damn played fury every exp, and thought maybe its a good time for arms lol
rare ibex
I played Arms since s2 (incl s4 and prepatch) and it's really fucking hard going back to Fury.
But A tier vs F tier.. I'm not that much of a glutton for punishment.
safe glen
damn its that bad huh?
elfin surge
arms is perma dead all game
rare ibex
I didn't think so.. but I just can't see how Arms has enough oomph to make it work. That and the defensives are not even remotely close.
steep granite
is it viable to use 2 1 handers and go for an ashen juggernaut build? surely vs melees u can stack up execute 50% crit chance
elfin surge
is it viable to use 2 1 handers and go for an ashen juggernaut build? surely vs ...
no
safe glen
is there an up2date fury guide somewhere here? in terms of talents and gameplay
mostly looking for battlegroun ds
sturdy sail
Damn mud i just tried your build out and managed to nearly win against a feral druid & rogue with 350k hp while i have 280k The amount of healing is just insane
thick reef
giga
jagged cedar
I love that. Eld. Im gonna have to try that
elfin surge
i think after the arms buffs i might have a build and playstyle that would make arms viable....
dark sparrow
Yo @elfin surge , how is petkyck feeling about the dk nerfs? Still going tsg together ye?
elfin surge
Yo <@269709440146604032> , how is petkyck feeling about the dk nerfs? Still goin...
he said dk is prob fine
and yes petkick the boy
warm pollen
do bloody tokens bonus set work on bgs too ?
tribal wedge
do crafting orders get fulfiled timely?
In 1 hour, and i just gave 50 gold of commission 
zenith marlin
lmao
rare ibex
In 1 hour, and i just gave 50 gold of commission <:ratge:890357732543168594>
What piece(s) did you buy?
zenith marlin
i think they get skill up
that is enough comission
crafting orders are just weird man ngl
tribal wedge
What piece(s) did you buy?
Boots
tribal wedge
Boots is Bis i dont know for the head , so atleast boots
stiff dust
hi, what should i change ?
old veldt
Best spec for pvp?
stiff dust
fury actually
old veldt
Nice
thick reef
Worth saving the Chaos for the head, since new spark is released on s1 launch -> free conquest item
- making the boots now
ofc
tribal wedge
Isnt executioner nerf to the ground in PvP?
brazen rock
The head is op as fuck (for an embellished item)
steep granite
is thunderous roar nerfed in pvp? wondering if it is worth +2s on bastion or getting thunderous
brazen rock
the bleed is nerfed. Still very strong and consistent.
tribal wedge
Idk in Arena but in World PvP roar IS so juicy
SB a guys on his Drake, full burst roar + odyns, watch them dies on air
wooden grove
I played Arms since s2 (incl s4 and prepatch) and it's really fucking hard going...
if you played arms in s3/s4 you are already a glutton for punishment
ngl that shit was a long time ago but i didnt scroll discord lmao
imagine if this was the head bonus oh lord
craggy socket
My UI got deleted does anyone have an import code I can use?
I cant be bothered to re do it all 😦
wooden grove
i mean we don't have yours lmao
wago.io should have some if you wanna see what they look like before importing
or i'll send you mine and you can throw up when it loads
wheat jay
imagine if this was the head bonus oh lord
That's kinda weak lol
wooden grove
in 2s yeah
in 3's 475ish haste with what is likely an incredibly high uptime would be nice
in BGs? yeah you're shredding since you can compensate with more mastery/crit in lieu of haste pieces
but again that's not the buff
its just some lame 500 dps proc we don't even really interact with in any way
but hey, 500 dps
rare ibex
if you played arms in s3/s4 you are already a glutton for punishment <:keks:9362...
I got duelist from rated Solo Shuffle in post-season (prepatch). Over 1k rounds. Definitely a glutton, but Arms was fun as hell condemn smashing and being the underdog against unkillable DH, DK, lock, etc.
Definitely not the case now.
wooden grove
i'm sure it was fun but you were basically flagellating yourself
copper hare
you didnt even lose rating up to 2.2 no? :D
zenith marlin
u woulda gotten 3k rating if u played 1k rounds as DH
nah u start loosing rate past 1400 as in every other content
wheat jay
in 3's 475ish haste with what is likely an incredibly high uptime would be nice
New enemy my dude
For 10s
zenith marlin
if u tie (3 wins) u dont loose or win
wheat jay
That's whole 3 enemies
rare ibex
you didnt even lose rating up to 2.2 no? :D
You mean gaining 6 rating for winning 4 rounds and losing 100 rating for going 2-4? Yeah .... 😦
I wish I had capitalized on the "new evoker" week.. coulda really pushed high when they came in with 50k hp.
zenith marlin
new evokers would be nowhere above 1.4k tho kekw
wheat jay
damn the "new" does throw a wrench in it all
Yep
rare ibex
new evokers would be nowhere above 1.4k tho kekw
Didn't matter.... MMR was pretty fucked during prepatch. Would never go more than 1-2 rounds without someone at 500 rating mixed in with 2100s.
elfin surge
@full quiver
zenith marlin
I knoow lol it was so funny
wooden grove
ngl all DHs are toxic af
elfin surge
post it @full quiver
zenith marlin
We were all full gear legendary etc and therer was this 1 50k hp guy sometimes
who died to GCD
wheat jay
@elfin surge are you gonna play Shrek cleave in df?
zenith marlin
wtf is shrek cleave kek
wooden grove
lmao Artji nooooo
elfin surge
wheat jay
wtf is shrek cleave kek
Resto druid + evoker dps + warr dps
wooden grove
lmaooooo
wheat jay
Fam i play KFC
wheat jay
I let everything in my comp
brazen rock
fury / fury / melee hpal
wooden grove
hpala + dk + warr
uh or frosty boy
brazen rock
zenith marlin
do fury warrs stack each others rampage still?
brazen rock
slaughterhouse? idk
zenith marlin
2nd question - does slagutherhouse stack with mortal strike?
elfin surge
mud and flark when they queue together next season
petkick would not be happy
wheat jay
Big woman
full quiver
nah apparently all the dks hate each other
zenith marlin
lmao why
wooden grove
partywafflesx > flark
zenith marlin
Blood DKs are defo a diff breed
brazen rock
90% of this server are gymrats
300 wilks or no respect lmao
full quiver
probably because there's a direct correlation because high levels of autism and high wow rating
isov is a good example
full quiver
wooden grove
Honestly Scoob, i'm not even a shadow priest player but it's cool go off sis
zenith marlin
i dont know a single healer spec that fits that desc
zenith marlin
ait
wheat jay
He's THE healer
zenith marlin
ye true mans a medic
my healer friend only plays Resto and cyclones my main target in my mid burst
wheat jay
Lmao
near delta
Oh you're still together?
Twitter
raw summit
spice hornet
😂
wheat jay
What lmao
sly walrus
elfin surge
https://mobile.twitter.com/pizzadawgDK/status/1599613839125151746
yea i saw that
near delta
I assume he was referring to him sticking with it, but people picked it up that way
full quiver
petkick seems cool
spice hornet
petkick seems cool
go off sis
elfin surge
petkick did not quit
full quiver
i heard he was quarrelling with his queue partner
jealous about him stepping out to another dk or something
wooden grove
lmao
near delta
jealous about him stepping out to another dk or something
Need another warrior: qthot
steep granite
would this macro boost the damage of spear of bastion?
lucid walrus
cooldowns generally do that
steep granite
yeah but it happens on the same tick
and i know about snapshotting so things in the air don't get affected
wooden grove
why don't you test it on a training dummy and tell us if it works
teach a man to fish y'know
brazen rock
@elfin surge did you figure out a good intervene macro for solo shuffle?
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> did you figure out a good intervene macro for solo shuffle...
no
wooden grove
healbot and set intervene
copper hare
gotta get used to arena 1, 2, 3
near delta
<@269709440146604032> did you figure out a good intervene macro for solo shuffle...
It's my meta macro
About to fly but I'll see if I can find it
/run dps = UnitName("target")
/run EditMacro('INT1', nil, nil, '#showtooltip\n/cast [target='.. dps ..'] Intervene', nil);
/run healer = UnitName("target")
/run EditMacro('INT2', nil, nil, '#showtooltip\n/cast [target='.. healer ..'] Intervene', nil);
Then you just need two macros one named INT1 and one named INT2.
I use int1 for the dps and int2 for the healer
near delta
Yup I told peoole about this months ago and everyone was like that's dumb af and too much work
near delta
Lol I'm a programmer for a living so it's not too bad
wheat jay
Oi oi oi
near delta
So the run healer and dps is just assigning a variable
wheat jay
What's that
near delta
Using whoever you're targeting at the time
Then the edit macro part is actually modifying the content of the macro using that variable
full quiver
Kek
near delta
It just changes the whole thing so doesn't matter what the macros have in them they just have to exist
full quiver
It sends all ur gold to Deepak if u use it by a mailbox
near delta
Lmfaoo
When I play ww I have this for vivify, tigers lust, detox, and soothing mist
Only thing is you can't use it in combat cause the API stops working
full quiver
so you just click them then click macro before the fight starts
near delta
Exactly
full quiver
neat
but if you get blind sapped and drop combat
then go to intervene
what happens
near delta
Sometimes I have to like not go in to set it up first after the doors open lol
near delta
what happens
When the macro isn't set up?
near delta
Just goes to the guy
full quiver
oh nice
near delta
Yup the only thing that stops working during combat is modifying the macro
I keep a mouse over intervene macro on my bars for pve shit and bgs
I use that if I forget
copper hare
they give more stats
icy spruce
man bgs are rough today fml
wooden grove
Been rough for the horde 
stuck root
they give more stats
Would be helpful if tooltips would reflect that lol
full quiver
can't wait to get a pic of mud on teh ground with thumbs down flag on him
violet dock
yo apologies if this is the wrong place to ask questions, new to warrior pvp and pvp in general, which trinket do i use alongside medallion? or do i not use medallion
river comet
guys, what weapon enchantments would you recommend for fury pvp in general 🙂 ?
tame sequoia
Vers/Haste is Fury's go-to stats?
inland heart
is prot at all useful in pvp?
brazen rock
Vers/Haste is Fury's go-to stats?
vers > haste > mast > crit
tame sequoia
Ty
icy spruce
which trinkets do you guys use?
steep inlet
With patch coming
I think arms will come back
And fury and prot are good
All 3 specs will be good
Starting this week imo
With Fury overall better
muted surge
So you think there will be an update?
barren crane
Fat ms buff tomorrow yes?
muted surge
Really how so, but with furry and prot in a good state I doubt it
muted surge
Link pls
icy spruce
i feel like there was less words a couple days ago lmao
muted surge
Wait i didn’t see that yet
barren crane
Still gonna struggle to stay alive unfortunately
muted surge
Yea
Idk if that’s a dmg buff or not tho
Considering it’s a oneshot meta atm
And nerfing sks is huge
wheat jay
Arms gonna slap giga hard now
waxen rivet
Anyone have a cook tree for arms and prot?
icy spruce
am i crazy?
spark schooner
vers > haste > mast > crit so i can buy all items with haste xD
barren crane
Is vers/haste priority for arms as well?
paper meteor
idk possibly crit
tawny abyss
Just stack with Vers/Haste item as fury?
paper meteor
Just stack with Vers/Haste item as fury?
check pinned msg
drowsy wasp
When was the last time arms is viable in arena?
wheat jay
Last season
sharp meteor
last season
wheat jay
Wasn't S tier tho, only A tier
icy spruce
this feels so weird switchcing from mage last expac to warrior this expac
sharp meteor
although if it depends on your definiton/interpretation of """viable"""
waxen rivet
viable =/= the best
sharp meteor
most things more than fine for glad
undone pumice
viable = not shit
sharp meteor
and lord knows most people gonna just end up 1700 cr or something
undone pumice
viable basically just means is it shadow priest or not
drowsy wasp
Well I played arms earlier and got 1v2’ed in skirmish by a guardian druid
sharp meteor
bear can like 1v5 certain specs
undone pumice
bear is literally fully immortal vs rogues i think
waxen rivet
bear mucho viable
undone pumice
2nd ammendment cleave returns
waxen rivet
how is prot looking for flag carrying?
brazen rock
how is prot looking for flag carrying?
worse than guardian
steep inlet
A lot
waxen rivet
bummer
waxen rivet
i like rbgs
undone pumice
dont be prot then
waxen rivet
ya I got that part
undone pumice
just be bear and be immortal
waxen rivet
i have one of those at 60
undone pumice
get him to 70 bismillah
waxen rivet
he's next on the list
undone pumice
whos before him
waxen rivet
hunter or priest maybe
undone pumice
kinda racist ngl
waxen rivet
maybe driud if I feel like backpedaling through dungeons
undone pumice
levelling a capitalist or a catholic before a minority?
undone pumice
what
waxen rivet
hes jewish
waxen rivet
but you can't say anything or you get ye'd
sharp meteor
wheat jay
and lord knows most people gonna just end up 1700 cr or something
All those rmps, ret/warrs, jungle, stuck below 1800 in s2 shadowlands despite being best comps in the game
quick carbon
All those rmps, ret/warrs, jungle, stuck below 1800 in s2 shadowlands despite be...
ret war in s2 gave me ptsd
spent the entire first half of the season getting absolutely farmed by it
wheat jay
I had a decent strat against it
RUN
And let Kargish kill paladin
Surprisingly we did very well into jungle teams as kfc
Killing hunters
wheat jay
Fury is broken
Soon arms will be broken
Cuz of huge buffs
Unhinged will be the way to go
tawny abyss
I can't find a pinned fury talent spec for pvp
copper hare
did you try with monitor on
quick carbon
Ww is broken, spriest is broken
I don’t think ww is that insane compared to other specs
wheat jay
How do we put gems on gear now?
craggy socket
anyone have a UI I can get the import code too mine got reset 😦
tawny abyss
Which trinkets do u Recommend as Dwarf Fury Warrior?
icy spruce
i went with the old and faithful
brazen rock
badge/medal
sharp meteor
How do we put gems on gear now?
u buy overpriced sockets from jc
price should trend downwards but will spike next weekend as people prep for season start
indigo helm
Is there a way to quickly change talents at the start of an arena without wiping out half the talent tree?
indigo helm
Templates
I know that there's templates but sometimes you just want to switch a few or tailor it to each comp - surely you don't have to create 20+ templates for that
tawny abyss
@brazen rock Badge of Ferocity and Medallion?
brazen rock
<@229750069367275522> Badge of Ferocity and Medallion?
whatever the on-use trinket is
can use proc trinket if you like
copper hare
I know that there's templates but sometimes you just want to switch a few or tai...
you can't even do that, it's capped at 10 :-)
wheat jay
I know that there's templates but sometimes you just want to switch a few or tai...
Gotta swap fast then i guess
More talents means more choices
It is what it is
lean burrow
they made chosen talents a lot easier to see though
additional blue outline on top of green outline
shift click to learn all previously chosen talents
aren't our choices just "intervene vs pummel talent" and "wrecking/shatter throw vs movespeed"?
slate plover
Heyy guys, quick question.....is de annih build beter for pvp?
lean burrow
yes
slate plover
Really?
lean burrow
check pins
lean burrow
limpid fossil
Anyone else notice war machine trigger from any kills in BGs? Just noticed today ill be sitting on a flag and team getting kills across the map will trigger it lol
Not sure if yhats always been the case
near delta
Anyone else notice war machine trigger from any kills in BGs? Just noticed today...
Is your impending victory resetting as well?
near delta
Cause it also resets on kills
limpid fossil
I'm not complaining haha just wasn't sure if that's intended or not
keen sun
Anyone here have a good load out for talents? im not great at pvp and I am starting to get into it any help is awesome! thank you this is for fury
icy spruce
check pins
keen sun
ty sorry new to looking into the discord lol
limpid fossil
Where do we see the pins? Sorry for the noob question. I'm a boomer when it comes to discord lol
indigo barn
Anyone else notice war machine trigger from any kills in BGs? Just noticed today...
Triggers from any kills your group makes
Or anything your group tags
dire carbon
Why do i feel like i do low dmg unless i have 2x execute and 2x owerpower on my MS?
severe skiff
Regarding the JC setting that adds sockets, unless they changed it from beta they only add one socket per item, with the quality of the item determining if it can add additonal sockets past what is already on your neck, So instead of buying 3x rank3 settings, you buy a rank1/2/3 and save considerable gold.
severe skiff
Why do i feel like i do low dmg unless i have 2x execute and 2x owerpower on my ...
because you do
quick carbon
Why do i feel like i do low dmg unless i have 2x execute and 2x owerpower on my ...
whats ur spec
quick carbon
u ddont needd execute buff for ms to hit hard, mayb just unlucky with no crits
elder pebble
hey this fury pvp pinned feels weird without raging blow as spell lol. There is no filler spell between bloodthirst?
near delta
hey this fury pvp pinned feels weird without raging blow as spell lol. There is ...
Bloodthirst is your new raging blow
sand halo
tidal drift
Is the stat pro for Arms still Vers/Haste?
near delta
Is the stat pro for Arms still Vers/Haste?
Vers -> Crit -> Haste probably
deep salmon
whats the best healer to pair with a fury warrior?
brazen rock
whats the best healer to pair with a fury warrior?
Hpal because blessing of summer/winter is fun
Rated hasn't started yet, nobody knows what's best.
near delta
whats the best healer to pair with a fury warrior?
No one has had a chance to play 2s with full DF kits so jury is still out. Likely rdruid/evoker will be top tier comps. Imo
deep salmon
well yeah but like in theory
brazen rock
Probably rdru or evoker like deep said.
Long damp games you'll win with 40% MS and sustain.
deep salmon
gotcha gotcha
my friend is a fury main (i myself am prot) but was just curious for what i should do as my pvp alt
near delta
Rdruid/warrior has just about always been a great 2s comp
And Evo is just broken af atm
brazen rock
Vers haste mast crit.
weak hazel
Ty sir
near delta
Crit is inherently a terrible stat on fury
brazen rock
Gear pieces are pinned
near delta
Just cause reck gives plenty
And even worse with the crit buff you get passively from using bloodthirst with the current meta build
willow panther
Do you even use slam as fury
near delta
Very rarely atm
deep salmon
💀
brazen rock
Very rarely.
willow panther
Off the action bar it goes 
near delta
If bloodthirst and whirlwind are down, and you need a global lol
near delta
Off the action bar it goes <:yep:703420923625078804>
I just put it where my raging blow was lol
deep salmon
you dont use raging blow anymore?
burnt hull
what stat am i supposed to go on prot
near delta
you dont use raging blow anymore?
Annihilator is the build now
deep salmon
ah
burnt hull
crit not good on prot?
thorn escarp
crit not good on prot?
No never
willow panther
I just put it where my raging blow was lol
Yeah thats a good point, was weird having an empty spot
teal adder
is dark iron dwarf BIS for pvp currently?
lime fossil
Are warrs better in bgs or dks
obtuse musk
I just put it where my raging blow was lol
i did the exact same
thorn escarp
Are warrs better in bgs or dks
Dks will get killed in wensday so go war
rare ibex
Can you upgrade honor gear atm?
lime fossil
Dks will get killed in wensday so go war
warrs were good all slands tho right
thorn escarp
Can you upgrade honor gear atm?
Yes but ur pvp ilvl stays the same
sage raptor
Bitch
rare ibex
He was practicing for when LFG starts up
pallid tartan
For solo shuffle which specs better with unknown pair?
hexed ocean
is there a list that wrecking throw works on
severe skiff
Pretty sure it works on all absorbs now, The notable ones being life cocoon, death pact and Shield of vengeance
hexed ocean
thank you
wooden grove
Spear + Ravager is actually hilarious in BGs
icy spruce
we dont need a crafted item for fury thats bis right?
drowsy wasp
is it like 9k-10k honor for full set of gear?
dry trail
For wrecking throw, if the target has a small absorb and wrecking throw damage exceeds that, then is the exceeded damage calculated as 100% or 500%?
rare ibex
When you upgrade honor gear, does it just upgrade the minimum ilvl (i.e. not PVP ilvl), or does it also bump secondaries?
waxen oasis
what trinket is good to pair with the other one?
craggy socket
Warlock not getting nerfed is the fucking crime of century
craggy socket
"we want braindead DEMO and DH to domiante the ladder"
rare ibex
"We're also reducing Rend's damage in PvP as Skullsplitter has been a culprit for one-shots."
What, really?
craggy socket
Huh?
spice hornet
"We're also reducing Rend's damage in PvP as Skullsplitter has been a culprit fo...
Yeah I never ran into that
No idea what they were talking about
rare ibex
All those crazy Arms one-shot builds
spice hornet
How dare arms have a one shot build. That’s for the rogue god class only
Fucking peasants
sharp meteor
wrath ass lookin ui
burnt hull
7 fury warriors on your team?
yup LOL
sharp meteor
I think I got into an isle back in like early cosmic and
my team had 8 hpriests
havoc and fury gonna get clapped next week probably
keen coral
I haven't managed to get a fully bleed spec'd skullsplitter to do more than like...30% of a geared players HP, at most. What are these one shots they speak of
vocal frigate
@steep inlet Got any ideas for a PVP spec for Prot?
spice hornet
<@143764641649131520> Got any ideas for a PVP spec for Prot?
Him or @elfin surge might know
nimble stirrup
Thoughts on embillihments for pvp?
severe skiff
Helm worth using, boots too, if orc maybe consider JC neck if you can farm the mythic level soul for i418 (will drop from either duelist+ or elite+ chests)
warm pollen
arms has a one shot build rn ?
severe skiff
no, they just have no concept of what a one shot is
knotty atlas
<@143764641649131520> Got any ideas for a PVP spec for Prot?
Pins.
stable raven
what trinket is best for fury, Alacrity or Ferocity?
clever furnace
boiz i dont usually play fury.. I play arms.. But arms feel like trash in PVP .. BG's anyway
i'm hitting like a noodle with full pvp gear
tribal wedge
Damage will be fine this reset
clever furnace
they getting buffed?
quick carbon
it already does good damage
muted surge
Arms does good dmg? What
sage raptor
Tomorrow sure
muted surge
Yea maybe, but not before the patch
tribal wedge
it already does good damage
Honestly i find too, but that juste dont match with pour tankyness
delicate fable
Arms does good dmg? What
What tunning, with full cds I can blow up someone pretty quick with a bit of setup, one execute proc or 1-2 OP stacks
Sorry for the tag 
delicate fable
It does a bit but I still like big numbers so
Oh just saw buffing MS by 30% this will reduce the setup
And Martial Prowess seems reduced in half so basically now with 2 OP stacks you would do the same as with none tomorrow and also 20% execute damage buff on arms, looks good damage wise
tribal wedge
does bloody tokens bonus gear works on bgs too ?
ilvl bonus work, but not set
tribal wedge
Oh just saw buffing MS by 30% this will reduce the setup
kargish does the math, and it increase the damage
tribal wedge
vers > crit > mastery > haste
since arms is pretty based on crit now (talent + set)
delicate fable
Huh, mastery before haste? 🤔
tribal wedge
yeah, mastery for big crit
delicate fable
Isnt there a haste threshold to hit?
Someone said 10% but I felt he just pulled that out of his ass
tribal wedge
mmmh, idk but seems pretty high
ancient dirge
is fury gonna be THE spec again? 🤔
delicate fable
The fact that furry can activate defensive while stunned and arms cant feel like defensively it will always be better
muted surge
Playing without haste feels pretty bad tho :(
tribal wedge
is fury gonna be THE spec again? 🤔
curently, but arms get big buff this week, so we don' know
muted surge
is fury gonna be THE spec again? 🤔
Prot
primal flax
Tbh feeling out this arms build and I think with the buffs later today its gonna be insane for HUGE MS and EXE dmg
delicate fable
Also huricane setup build is fun in bgs
muted surge
But no bleed and no bs hurts
ancient dirge
My brain isn't big, why roar over spear for fury
delicate fable
For those juicy numbers
primal flax
But no bleed and no bs hurts
yeah i really like skullsplit playstyle and havin no bs does suck
but the numbers do remind me of those juicy necro 1 shots when ya line up all the modifiers
warped warren
Tbh feeling out this arms build and I think with the buffs later today its gonna...
no storm
tribal wedge
with the rend nerf bleed style is meh no?
delicate fable
Its about the numbers
muted surge
with the rend nerf bleed style is meh no?
Still passive dps
Considering all the roots
daring wadi
With Fury/DH/Pres would Spear be better than thunderous?
daring wadi
So take thunderous into DKs rogues and (do hunters still have stratagem?) and spear into the rest?
lean burrow
think half the classes can get out with quick reactions
but rogues and hunters don't have anything to counter spear now, it's physical
daring wadi
Really? Hmm.
lean burrow
let's wait for someone more knowledgeable
daring wadi
I'll have to do some testing.
tribal wedge
think half the classes can get out with quick reactions
except war, what class can't get out?
maybe mage?
lean burrow
is bug "using mobility right after pull"?
hard hound
Yeah
hard hound
Doesn’t matter
lean burrow
hard hound
Spear is meh Vs good player
Was so strong at the beginning because no one know how to counter it , like mindgames
tribal wedge
All class can bug out atm
as war too?
hard hound
Didn’t I say all class ??
tribal wedge
how so ? i don't have the trick
hard hound
Just read the chat
molten dagger
hows warr for pvp in DF
hard hound
Arms shit fury A and prot better than arms
tribal wedge
Just read the chat
mb, so just leap out worked?
gleaming cedar
Most people playing fury?
tribal wedge
Most people playing fury?
far better for now
gleaming cedar
Think thatll somewhat even out or change with the patch?
tribal wedge
arms got huge damage buff this reset, so idk how much it's gonna change
brazen rock
its nowhere near enough to make up for having to sit in d-stance entire games
tribal wedge
and i'm afraid with this damage up, they won't up dstance
burnt hull
if you aren’t taking spear of bastion in your build you are no true warrior and a virgin
only true chad pumpers take spear
gleaming wagon
I'm pure again, praise jesooos
burnt hull
spear is bis trust you will win every game@and kiss all the dads
warm pollen
wich bloody token bonus gear should i wear on my bis pvp gear?
burnt hull
none i think
latent zenith
Gonna be spear again on rated but for now I dig Shout more
burnt hull
all the honor gear is better iirc
gleaming wagon
408 vs 411 in pvp
lament kiln
^
warm pollen
yeah but still sick stats ?
gleaming wagon
guess optimal would be 4-set bloody on lowest stat items then the rest honor