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ye not in beta tho 😦
arms worst melee on beta
Tag him and ask
No.
is side-arm better than cd reduction on kick?
by a mile yeah
maybe when you train a disc cd reduction could be nice
I hope they remove the cast time whenever you wanna swap a talent though
no
wont they improve it ?
if they feel like it
is it really that bad now ?
Yes.
Feel like I'm stuck in rating hell, always someone I can't carry through at least two games and I don't gain tangible rating unless I got 5-1 or better in solo.
You know the ones, the types who get blown up through an intervene AND rallying cry.
Not like those are strong defensives
Nah, but it'll be at the start of the round when they have their own defensives.
It is what it is
Helpful.
its prepatch lol
It's the core design of solo shuffle, not sure how that'll change with the new xpac.
That's how its going to be tho, dont expect anything else
Its like rated games in LoL
There's always some inter on your team
You have to carry hard enough to still win despite having dead weights in your team
Or be lucky enough to have people carry you when you're a dead weight
at least, you don't have to play the entire game with the inter, so carry the one without him
Usually do, but that means like 4-2 at the moment and I get like... 5 rating for it?
If I do go 5, usually someone leaves.
That's how its gonna look like
Depresso expresso.
better tuned, real mmr, equivalent gear
Real mmr?
Now its scuffed cuz its off-season
Mechanically scuffed, or no one takes it seriously so they're happy to leave and trash their own rating scuffed?
Ye cuz noone loses anything
Rating rn doesnt matter at all
Mhm. Preseason/postseason is a mess, consider now to be like alpha or beta testing.
Well that helps a bit; might actually be possible to climb in a real season if there's less leavers.
as a pvp virgin would a woyer be a good class to start pvping on? i get this is pretty low iq question but bare with me
Whats the best race for warrior on ally side now
Woyer is a solid starter class
Probably a tie between dark iron dwarf and night elf, but we'll have to see how the meta shakes out.
dwarf or nightelf.
not human?
im gonna go human
Forgot about gnome, yeah 1min root break and 5 extra max rage is dank. and 1% haste
Looks good in mogs, gives you effectively a 1min30sec trinket when it comes to stuns only, rep boost in a new expansion can be useful, haste proc and badge while still having a stun trinket in some matchups
for one im a pvp brainlet, im mainly a M+ addict
while my brain always minmaxes i dont think i can take the gnome pill
Nothing says dominance asserted like getting bodied by a gnome
why not dark iorn
Dark iron is one of the better races for sure
truth is the diff between them all is fairly minor now and you can pick based on aesthetic alone, and most races have a racial which can help you in some situation one way or another
Evokers 1min cd root, heal monks and all priests getting roots, all hunter specs getting root trap and 3sec root on snare trap, think shaman root totem is 1min cd now too?
so i take it you pick a racial based on whats dominant in that season, ie if a lot of stuns (rogue poggerino for example) u'd go human?
gnome racial is simple to use and highly effective in pvp for a warrior
it's off the global cooldown, it doesn't put your medallion on any sort of cooldown
does human racial share cd with trinket? or wait did they remove the pvp trinket?
You picked orc before because it was entirely passive power and you didn't have to use it correctly to get full benefit, now it doesn't matter
using human racial puts medallion on a 1min30sec cd
and likewise using medallion puts human racial on a 1min30sec cd
oh so human is now useless?
Using dwarf or dark iron dwarf puts medallion on a 30sec cd, and the other way around as well using medallion puts dwarf racials on a 30sec cd
if you aint r1 just pick based on drip tbh
It's not useless but its not as MASSIVE as it was before
bro im obviously r1 wtf u mean
u playing dawg?
whats DI racial again?
i thought it was remove poison or something?
poison/disease/magic/bleed/curse cleanse + primary stat boost + additional stat per effect removed
it does trigger dispel protections, like if you use it to clear a UA you'll take the UA backlash damage
Also puts pvp trinket on cd 
yeah 30sec
it actually gives you massive stat boost, nearly season1 max ilvl badge value + a significant amount per effect cleansed, 10sec duration
regular dwarf works the same too?
dwarf is the same thing minus the stat boost but has 10% physical damage reduction for the duration of the racial
regular dwarf has 1-2% crit damage bonus passive, dark iron 1% phys dmg reduction
altho idk how magic/physical dam heavy df dungerinos are
damn do i go drip (human) or minmax (di/regular dwarf)
gotta think :D
altho for a noob it prolly doesnt matter much huh ?
it really doesn't matter outside of top 0.5%
The exception is night elf for rogue/druid to get ez restealths and druids to autowin cyclone duels
benefit of not being like every other human female warrior
ye i love dwarves minus that goofy ass running animation they changed
bro
im going male human
i only play fem nelves with slutmogs
I imagine having a stun break while using 2x pve trinkets in pve is pretty useful in mythic+/raid
real and true
shitpick races also less shitpicky with trinket change so that's really nice
lmao watching @elfin surge streaming fury self heal builds and he hates every minute of it even as he wins
another season of being a rampage presser
he did a build where he was only pressing bloodthirst lmao
That's a good point. Evokers are annoying af with that lol
haha it's so funny how depressed he sounds that fury might end up being better
I remember smexxin would find every excuse to play fury
I agree that Fury is boring, but I don't get the dick riding of arms
arms is literally the same boring shit
tbh
fury was legit
raging blow into rampage
and it's still that except no storm to dodge cc

@elfin surge if you’re queueing I recommend stopping - orchillez is queueing on his dh again
i hate playing warrior in prepatch
play prot 
yall like necro or kyrian for solo
Evoker is like the only viable healer now it seems lol
Theyre so insane it makes other healers look bad
MW s tier too
Rdruid still feels very strong
Sounds like you’re in the wrong discord tbh
Do you find raging blow or annihilate build better?
Also do you spec into the ww talents for cleave or not bother and focus on single target
Depend of enemy compo
If you certain to hit 2 target get ww if you can hit only 1 by 1 take single target
How so?
overpower mortal strike slam execute 
Almost like all rotations are simple
at least arms rotation don't give carpal tunnel syndrome
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if well balanced in DF, what would u put your money on in a 1v1 warrior vs DH?
I don't know what you guys moaning about arms being bad, I just 1v2 a rogue and warrior in BG and I'm not even venthyr and only like 9 renown so nothing else unlocked
Honestly I'm not feeling bad about DF, I think we will be fine
it just undertuned, need some love numbers before release, mustly MS
Yes and they slowly doing it
hope they do, i love Arms, Fury is boring
come back when a monks RSK does 2x your MS damage with 0 setup.
Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy war, basically my main for over a decade. But with all the pruning and dmg shifting after legion arms feels really bland. But this is the case for a lot of specs. They tried to compensate for it with all that borrowed power in bfa and with covenants, but the core abilties still feel weak as fuck specially for both war specs
Idk dude, think arms was solid af in SL
You can 1v4 if the guyes have 20k hp lol
And the design is still there
yeah, i dont really get much out of pressing RB or MS, meanwhile every waved lava burst i toss on my ele makes me erect
SL arms could straight up delete your character from the game and login screen
It was dumb
you'll have a lot of fun on your ele if it stays like on beta right now
im tempted. The entire ele kit is crazy
Hi everyone, how should I be trying to use my stormbolt in arena? and fear-shout, those are my only two CC's right?
Stormbolt, then fear them to chain out of it?
Depends on comp and gamestate.
Maybe you fling at healer and feral/ret stuns kill target.
Other times you'll send it into kill target.
Can do this. Fear usually feels like a safer thing to peel with, though.
That doesnt mean much :p try some arena and tell us how tou feel after being the kill target in about 90% of the matches because you do no dmg and die if someone farts in your general direction
(Unless you actually crit with two-three condemns in a row)
I clapped my thunder thighs and they died from rend dots 😝
LMAO
I've actually seen posts like this on the forums, it's wild.
Wait till you see this @sharp meteor
You mean “not having friends”? That’s not on blizzard
I think it was changed to be physical.
the dot, anyways, but I'm not sure. Revival/cloak, etc, not ripping it off is a big deal.
yeah so far 2 rogues cloaked and tried to walk out but failed
🥰
@elfin surge this thing wrecks u mid stream while youre boosting another 1200 rated viewer, WYD?
good mog

Fox gang.
It’s no wonder you all are wearing thick helmets
Couldn’t look at the furry face either
I usually just wear glasses.
So cute 
Yes, it has been confirmed.
Lmao
Any tips for situations where you feel like youre permanently slowed against ranged classes?
Figure out how to use mobility/positioning better.
Generally you'll have uptime for high damage windows.
For instance you'll want to have bolt, at least a charge of...charge and ideally leap before bursting. So whatever they use you'll then still be able to stick.
Fox is BiS for keys as well if you’re horde
What helmet is that?
Cruel elite, s3-4 legion.
But is it BiS for both?
Oh damn that looks really cool
Legion was a great time for elite sets.
Wow logic is trash how can a fox or gnome wield a big two handed weapons
the only class gnomes should be is rogue, because yes
Ye but you're a fox
Can't do that in arena
bring back tmorph 
Id 100% use it
Imorph is a thing
Bannable
Well, was always bannable
But now more than before
Meaning i wont risk it
Imorph causes a lot of lua errors
Not gambling with the 1% chance of a ban. 
Precisely
modifying game code in unintended ways, there's some shady shit you can do with tmorph/Imorph
Easier to flat ban it then spend time on a case-by-base basis.
cringe blizz wont let me lmorph into a gnome
race change gnome anyways cuz escape artist is pog
Just play gnome then
So, where was a banwave going around like a year ago, but that wasn't specifically for morph clients, rather for multiboxing and their new policy for it right? But their system also banned a lot of Imorph users because there was some weird issue with the gamepad input or something.
I pretty much used jmorph/tmorph etc since the beginning and never had issues or bans cuz of it. And I don't think blizzard ever stated that they would specifically look up and ban morph users. But it can happen ofc
When u play into DH and he manages to lose every round
Is slaughterhouse fury's only mandatory PvP talent? Maybe Disarm against certain bursty melee?
Demolition is hilarious against MW
slaughterhouse isnt even mandatory
when u rebound a fotm destro incin
afaik during shadowlands we could just forgo slaughter vs rm 2s for example
Yeah but for 3s its pretty much a must-take i think?
depends if ur qing with someting that can overwrite it
It is unless you're forced to play with something that'll constantly rip stacks off.
sometimes u q with stronger
random battlegrounds for instance where mortal dance is just everywhere
Slaughter is the strongest.
cancer
@elfin surge i think u need to say stuff like this to become Stormforged, I believe
🐼

i meant like ibgger number
isnt sharpen 50
for pvp
Yes, but that'd involve queuing arms/fury.
Stop lying.
must be my luck

Do you guys like insignia or badge for fury pvp?
Resonator
Feels bad, mang, but a 5-8k hit when disarmed could be worse.
Nose is honestly decent into demo, though, as it applies to each pet.
so you can absorb a few hundred thousand pet pad.
(then get mowed down by the tyrant)

💀
an 1800 lock/ele were able to just kite me to 70% damp

bUt DoUbLe ChArGe StOrMbOlT
they had a lot there
lasso, GW pillar hump + some sort of sprint with that, thunderstorm, earthgrab, lock gate
oh frost shock root too
Yeah, so, shaman has two knocks and two roots, I think.
Gonna be really obnoxious on maps like sewers.
just get dooted off into root.
hi everybody ! i get a warrior, and i want a good talents tree for pvp, maybe a guide if you guys have plz ?
lvl 60 obv
tell me plz 😉
arms/fury/prot ?

warrior

Gnome meta inc for fury warrior

Fury already has a root break. 
🤮
@frank knoll Dark Iron its rly broken too i think no ?
Surely if orc was so good it’d be pinned right



We should have our stormforged pin it. 
Not playing vulpera furry warrior
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Solo RBG would be aaaaaaaaaaaaaawesome! no discrimination per class/spec, you can literally play whatever you fucking want to play
but still hella unbalanced
So much rng with teams though
i would say that the team with a guard druid has a way bewtter chance
same with aff lock and uhdk
Solo shuffle works-ish due to rotating players around. Not sure how you’d do that with rbg
ill take the rng everyday, dont care if people can play whatever they want and not wait like 3 hours for someone to accept you cause of spec
Thats true, and thats why I love solo shuffle and have wanted a solo option for ages
Just queue and go
No fucking LFG for hours just to have someone rage quit after one match because we couldnt carry his entitled ass and 2.2k rbg exp 😅
a system with some check boxes, like the tank, 3 healers, 3 or 4 range, 3 or 4 melees, and something like that, and accurate MMR, not puting 1000 rating with like 1800, 100 or 200 range
imagine someone like me who likes to play Survi Hunter, but no one invites you cause´of people think is shit, even if the damage is way up high at some points, not be discriminated
or Enhas, im happy when i see enhas in RBG scenarios, or any spec thats is not the common
and then get flamed during the whole game :D
you do top damage, cc´s , kicks in the game and get flamed jajajaja
rbg should just be 6v6
jerks are everywhere
rbg is a cancer bracket that needs to be deleted
most toxic players main that gamemode
6v6 wontwork for the bgs tho
thats why im going to made groups on my one
it wouldn't be so bad if they actively balanced guardians and stuff
but sitting for 3 hours in LFG waiting for Ragnaros Guardian who is wearing the wrong leggo and gets sapped capped isnt fun at all
they need to do some rbg-specific tweaking for it to be fun
Im usually at around 1500-1900 in arena. Never done rbg's And im always pugging cause im mainly a pve player and play with only pve players..i just casually dab into arena whenever i have time. Any tips on where i could find a rbg community? I wanna get atleast 1800 rating in DF
here's the 44 year old bear you waited 30 minutes for, bro
play with people, add them, ask for their community if you like them
lmfao
or just go on the forum and join one, there are multiple
and mark the toxic ones, you dont have to play with assholes
I'm cool with it, eventually they'll be in a bracket which only had DH in it 😛
Is that you? I was expecting feathers and a bit of quack
Has anyone been queueing with a healer evoker in 2s? I've been playin a lot with one and I don't find it to synergize too well with us, but unsure if thats due to the state of warr atm vs. some of the broken sht.
for example they can only remove a curse once a minute
so u q into warlock putting amp curses on u all game is 
@spice hornet you should 100% feel ashamed of yourself. People that are around you should reevaluate, especially these streamers. Shits insane, stop speaking.
xaryu is a lil cooked
He likes to demand you get in discord and target call
Who's that femboy?
That's mud?
He looks like that crybaby mage streamer
What's his name
I can't remember
xaryu
Yeah him
the one that cries about deep freeze on a daily basis
Are you saying he looks like a female orc?
thatd be asmon
True
He unironically believes that actors aren't paid by politicians
Among other stupid things
anyone else d/c and can't log in?
yo dark iron dwarf for warrior or what? lol
Game shitting itself again, lads.
Has potential, yer. Certainly feels great into feral and assassination.
Just got server shutdown messages on crack.
thats my thinking as well
Either pick gnome or pick purely based on looks and nothing else
Yo guys does anyone pinged yet something about how to counter each class? Could come in handy for those who don't know what to do on difficult moments, example when a class is bursting what to do, what to press, when they use a deff cd etc etc. For new players could be alot of help especially in these dark times when warrior ain't top tier
There was that massive buff to orc shoulders
Yeah that’d be great as someone who’s looking to get into pvp for first time
Depends on too many things to do a concise writeup and the game is always changing so it'd require constant updates.
Just eyeball how your comp could better slot stuff into the matchup until you find something that works.
did they ever change LFD racial to not scale off modifiers
Mogs should be unlocked by 1800
As far as I saw there weren't elite weapons
Conquest set is purple, elite is orange, and the weapons are kind of both.
is there a website where i can find pvp fury builds
You can look up people who were high rated last season then copy-paste their build off drustvar/checkpvp.
Keep in mind that this just shows generalist stuff and not what people swap to matchup to matchup, also that we're still literally pre-expansion so people are messing around.
I really liked sets for 2.1 and enchants for 2.4 back then, felt more rewarding imo
ty ty
Sets were 2200 then 2000 with enchants at...2200 and 2400. Tabards have been anywhere from...2350 to 2600, I think. All over the place with rewards. 😵💫 I kind of wish they'd do something between glad and r1 if they're going to have seasons be long/inflated.
Unchained cutoff was like a full thousand points above gladiator.
So nothing other than glad and tabard?
Or wep enchant still 2.1
Neat
Yeah, hit elite, keystone hero or ce
And you can make non mythic/elite armour have the lightning effects
Why are we calling elite sets elite when they're available for rival 🤔
And I think there are going to be elite weapon models as there are raid recolours and aspirant relocolours that come under 'crimson gladiator'
Rival masterrace
But I think they said they won't implement some rewards immediately right
Ok found it
Yep.
🤔 making sure no solo shuffle exploiters?
Tints are known unless they slip new ones in.
It's just the standard conquest ones.
Dude is that a rat
No.
Compare the crimson axe to the sword
Hopefully they add a tint for each.
No.
Confuses me too
Back in the day it was 2200, then 2000, and since BFA it has been 1800. Which...I think is a little too free, but hey, whatever. The 2400 elite thing is a cool idea.
Like, the appearance changer thing.
Yeah but it is kinda sad when you see everyone with these Sets because I think blizz made an awesome Job with them this time
1800 was hard for me the first time
Oh, brilliant.
Yeah, brain oozing out of my skull trying to push 2k for the first time and with a pve only friend.
I'm too much boomer for that to remember 😂
Hopefully one of the seasons is Azure Gladiator
Would be fitting
Since we got bought by Microsoft
the elite title is a thing that came 17e6q8 seasons (bfa s1?) after the elite tints started appearing in cata
Yeah, elite weapons existed in wotlk but the gear only started in cata and required 2200
which was dropped to 2000 after tyrannical
then 1800 in dread
Is gnome the way to go now that human racial passive is gimped by new trinkets?
for sure
👍

for arms, if fury is meta I wouldnt go gnome, even though female gnome with pigtails is certainly unmatched
not as hot as female dwarf though
too real, pigtails 🥰
handlebars
seriously, could you say no to her?
https://gyazo.com/966cfd90bb6d0be3092f58e0ba400e30
No 🤧🤧
four fingers on hands

worgen only have 4 claws on their hands
no clue how that works w/ the whole transformation thing
I mean we also have 4 fingers

i could never
greasy spaghetti
Will resonator be in dragonflight?
Bro they always do be old dudes, that and any shaman I’ve ever met
Any reason why gnome fury is a nogo?
Bloodrage
Oh interesting, that's only on fury?
If so what race would be replacement? Dwarf /di Dwarf, mechagnome, kultiran?
This karg man
?
orc or die
Alliance only sorry
then die alliance scum
So I guess what should I die with.
Thanks zug zug keep up the killing
Maybe not post that right after I gave advice so he thinks it's wrong



mid 
Bloodrage is dust
Just went 6-0 in a ranked solo shuffle as Arms... why does the game do this to me???
yooooooooo no waaaaaay
pog
Yo does anyone have working intervene macros for solo shuffle?
I use @ name ones which is aids for solo shuffle so i've been using my mouseover one.
@ party ones are always buggin
I have not had success with the party ones
They fixed party macros allegedly
I think there's some setting you can turn on
Makes the party members in same order
no
mouseover intervene is very aids to use
i need to find a fix
I use charge intervene, with the intervene mouse over on raid frames
You can just use party ones in the opening room
If they're flipped for some reason just swap the binds
That's what I used to do before I swapped to name ones
Just dont use intervene 
You can't save the 50k HPers anyway
it's gonna be ok (it won't)
Could be a song title
Condemn is a shit spell
why
Hmm, I haven’t had any trouble with the party intervene macros. What does it look like when it bugs out?
I've accidentally intervened a few tanks in my day
slow inefficient
can be okay if you know what you're looking for
very bad in a pinch though like intervening something in particular
when possible, like in arena where you really only need 2 extra binds, it's preferable
big damage
guys, how much rating i need to buy shield in dragonflight
Shield is only like 525conq I think
ye but it looks much better
If you a tank just spam solo queue and you could prob get it in a hour or less
which one
are there elite shields ? i dont even know
I assume thats the elite one then
thats the only pvp one
rest are from 4 raid difficulties
or well it only says crimson gladiators bulwark
Elite pvp armor has an elite.
The weapons do not
maybe im just dumb rn
Maybe a big maybe intentional
The sets are in. Just wasn't sure on weaponry.
Because the fully upgraded weapons from vendors don't have a new appearance.
oh wait im dumb
yea
Red is elite purple is basic
Yeah, purple is conquest and orange is elite.
Hoping there's some shiny elite weaponry. 
Red is best wdym
I'll for sure be collecting mogs this season
Most of them are Chad af
Does shuffle give elite mogs though?
Yeah it should
It should give all the generic rewards.
Anyone try the annihilator build as fury?
I saw supatease using it. But Doesn’t raging blow as a button do more damage
Haha his build have nonsense , he take hack and slash with annihilator
doing 20-30k sustained in arena with it. I suggest running it
Haha
Don’t like that one as much
Seems he don’t read talents
is there a way to see how left the solo shuffle to throw it? Like im not kidding that my last 8 matches..people have left last round.
Stop play solo shuffle until df
The first guy to leave is found in the chatlog 
you think it will get better in DF?` if so..how ?
Don’t care about lose cr atm
unless the punishments are going to be more strict, then solo shuffle is perfect for manchilds to troll and ruin the game for others. Like 10 min off and 100 rating derank..when you can easily gain 3-400 is nothing
When you got good cr you don’t take 3-400
At some point the amount of cr you take is low
So loose 100 - 150 cr at 2k2 + is big
And you have nothing to loose in prepatch when you leave
Cr mean nothing
?
Ya seems like you just press execute procs, rampage and BT
I wonder if the BT bleed is any good
You don’t see where the problem is?
Brother cut to the chase
any arms warrior streamers on beta?
Just read my previous messages
Nop dead spec atm :/
Haven’t tried just loving this nut dragging build
What’s the nut dragging build lmao
I’ve just been playing RA-3x RB and the talent that procs the old 4 set
Legit had a Shaman rage off and just stand there because they were mad they were like 1/3 and I still managed to take the round by myself somehow. You kinda just gotta fight through it in solo. The only other game I plauly besides WoW is LoL so kinda just used to it.
its a shame really..i can only imagine how those people get around in a every day life.
For real
I audibly gagged, thanks mud.
@short sable
Mud can you post a smf fury build just so I can post it in #fury and get them all riled up?
Lmao
Make it specifically like a smf + whirlwind build
It’s such easy bait
Get them REAL fucking mad
Then after like ten minutes be like "alright good points i revised my build without smf "
Then link them an arms build


Dagger new bis?!
Looks good to me
Can you pin this bud?
Thanks

Where’s that one cooked guy in here that thinks wrath 2v2 is skill
Thinkin about him
I think hack and slash makes annihilator proc more
Not sure what happened in the patch today, but Arms feels WAY worse in arenas.
Arms is dead
Yeah I know.. but it felt fine until today. Now I'm paper and doing shit damage. Might be placebo I guess, since we didn't get nerfed on paper.
No joke but didn't arms get buffs?
Forced to play fury or reroll
: (
"Buffs" I guess lol
yeah i love that bladestorm does 1/16th of an auto attack per tick now
wait i cant even spec into it
cuz forced into condemn talents

Bet dekel would stay arms even if it was bad, just saying
who?
Umm is devastation super broken or is it just prepatch shenanigans?
I just got hit for a 105k living flame lol
Is prot the only spec with the condemn execute animation?
*fire breath
Massacre talent gives you condemn animation
Their mastery isn't something that can be balanced in pvp, it leads to one shots, they still do it at 70
Mike Jones
Who?
I hit 2100 with arms today and then promptly dropped 300 pts
might have to go fury like you said
I'm so sick of button mashing 😐
I thought it was bugged to where if it didn't pop at a certain time threshold, it will never pop
It's been super streaky for me.. 7m wait takes 25 mins
and you have to reque
i did re queue
20 mins in now with this one and the average wait time keeps going up
Dhs are in bed I guess
I just had one with only 1 warlock and 1 evoker and I won 5/6.
DH/DK/SP/Evoker/Lock just make us look like shit don't they?
dang thas what qs are like at 1200 eh

@spice hornet Are you and Mud good?
Damn
we not good
i know he loves me tho
Might have to drop and requeue. I think it bugs after like 5-10 minutes.
Also I think it fucks up if you go afk
Twice now I moved the camera in the game after watching netflix for 25 mins and got insta-pops.
Worked fine before they deleted tank matches. My theory was that after 5 minutes or something it threw you into the bigger pool (with tanks) after prioritizing healers but now as tank matches are gone it just breaks.
Probably trying to put you with 3 dhs
i love that
I'm just sick of seeing evokers with 110k hps on glad mounts in my shitty mmr.
Root -> one-shot
I fucking dance all day too
orchjillez (one of the best furry warrior NA) decided to hop on an alt DH he never plays and fought against Mud/FeedGod in 2s - smoked them with relative ease.
I think you could link up the neuralink monkey to a computer playing dh and it would beat mud in 2s
Does arms get any better in dragonflight at 70? Feels bad when your 2x executioners, 2x overpower + cs, avatar hits for 20k
arms gets worse at 70
Deep depression
the deepest
I'm sure we'll get a 7% aura buff soon.
It's actually the worst melee on beta
not even trolling
Honestly, I'm liking the fury builds with like 4 buttons in PVE. Wonder if there's something similar and viable in PVP
it's really bad im gonna stick with it though
glad solo shuffle exists they cant discriminate if im arms or not
Dipi was saying the best fury build he's seen on alpha that no one's really playing is completely focused on blood thirst
had some people /rofl at me tho for being arms
Was gonna t ry to mess around with that
Lol
No troll you should just play frost dk instead of fury
Smashing frost strike obliterate feels way better than bloodthirst rampage
And you actually have a little bit of nuance with your go set up
rn? absolutely
I think I would just keep maining Outlaw at this rate, though it could all obviously change after a week
What's "better" right now DK wise? I'm assuming Unholy right now.
Pets probably give the edge to Unholy in SS right? Average solo queuers prob not that great at playing around pets
Fdk is just the better arms atm
in solo queue frost prob better
no ones going to disarm your go
games are over nearly instantly
Will probably just stick with Arms, assuming it gets better at some patch. Played Outlaw 90% of Shadowlands even when it was meh, then overnight it was easily the best melee, so it can happen!
Pillar gets disarmed insta every time.
Although Frost has the benefit of just having the gigantic opener which is useful in shuffle
and you just win second or third pillar because cds have been scuffed by then
like isn't damp 60-70% by second limb
Disarm value flop
Can't you go on disarm tho, they can't DS
Im just waiting for inevetiable huge balancing patch that makes S-Tier poo and B-tier S Tier
Always happens
Yeah but if B Tier is more specs than S it'll at least seem palatable.
DH is the only locked on nerf I see
Buffs to hunter mage and warrior probably coming
Imagine if Bladestorm actually did dmg again and MS didn't hit like a auto
Would be nice
BS is lowkey the highest dmg button now
But really only cause everything else was gutted
420% AP shouldn't be slept on though
But nothing compared to wotlk :(
in solo shuffle
?
eh its too chaotic for everytime
yeah bladestorm does poppin damage, its just everything that isnt condemn or bladestorm is irrelevant
also why do female goblins have abs
They skip the carbs
Actually fair point on the 420%ap. I haven't had a true chance to experiment with it bc well can't spec into it lol.
it also gets amped by all the buttons
True
I just see Evokers hitting 100k aoe breaths and I'm like...tf
Anyways it 3 am...I must sleep
I'm tryna learn unholy till arms gets buffed 
I'm learning evoker for the same reason, it's like bringing a shotgun to a knife fight.
Ya and they do it in challenger 1 gear lmao
They’re gonna nerf will of the necropolis I bet
I just hope it’s Unholy that gets hit hard. Frost deserves to be better since necrotic wounds made UH the go to
Frost can finally do damage outside of their pillar, oblit, limb go
If they stay as tanky as they are people will start calling for nerfs
Nerf arms
nerf bladestorm
buff warlock
Give dh titangrip
I remember DHs wanting a disarm
they already gave every spec in the game our ms
why not give everything disarm too
blizz logic

DH have heroic leap they can go to hell
Their kit is undertuned anyway
Rogue should get bs just cause they also have blades
But give us shuriken storm or whatever it’s called
Sounds like whirlwind with extra steps
Aoe rage spender though…
I mean Outlaw gets Blade Rush but they put it on the meme side of the tree
You can even build your own Sudden Death with some of the Ambush talents
Can someone explain to me the hunter wall hack
And also can they shoot at you through the wall or just see and target
What about their allies
Do any other classes have new bullshit mechanics like this?
Also can someone explain whether it is possible to dodge the shots from a DH when they go into the air because I tried running away but the range on it seems huge
existe since SL covenant spell , it's not new
Lol hunter sucks so much right now
los them
Err, they hit hard, turtle then run faster than mount almost. They only die if they stupid enough to stand there
Otherwise they kite you to death how are they bad
Marks is unplayable right now lol
Plus in BGs in a death ball it's just ez mode target and mash buttons from safety
Are you on beta??
No
They suck in prepatch lol
So do we
Yeah
If you're getting one shot in a bg ot doesn't really mean anything
If you're dying to a hunter in arena probably doing something wrong lol
Hunters will always be annoying in BGs kinda by design
Also talking about potentially large ilvl differences
Yeah I really don't understand this...
Legit everyone has an MS whats the point
its dumb
Frost mage almost had an MS lol

felguard has an aoe ms with no cd that's as potent as warr ms
there's a fucking pet with a better mortal strike

I still think Mages are more delusional than DHs
(it also lasts longer)
This ms also would've had 100% uptime
Who dat
Mr. Crybaby himself
@elfin surge are you running venthyr on that fury build? Do you feel as though vicious contempt conflicts a bit with condemn/execute?
Mud show face
Necro gaming
woah necro.. amazing
Oh wait I have an old selfie from u

i havent played necro since s2
The only mage that I think is good is Cvark tbh
Because he’s been destroying people as an arcane mage for a long time
Damn, I don't think I can stalk your conduit build on drustvar 😂
does check pvp show it?

Assume it's helmir with obvious conduits?
Plague Deviser
that one might be better
but i never played it so cba
the mastery into cleaves/pet specs was really good
cosmic you'd just body dks in opener through everything
I love how wowhead doesn't have a "Why you should play Arms Warrior in Dragonflight (and why you shouldn't)" article yet.
(those are for pve)
Sure, but funny anyway
Those are PvE focused anyways
Fury can stack Dstance with war paint right
ye
That automatically makes it pretty good then I think
Does annihilator contribute to battle trance or no
yes
battle trance changes tooltips when u play annihilator
its like 8 auto swings or something to trigger it
I had no idea. So annihilator builds will be pretty clearly the best for pvp I’m guessing?
as of right now it does seem to be the best
anything could change tho
alguien habla español... ??
No hablo español
T_T
I hablo google translate
i am Fury Warrior... and dead only by one skill
esquiva el lagarto picante
But 174k hit is kinda fun for pre patch
(If the first ss is pre patch)
If he got 15 orbs stack it’s normal
Ya I tried it you’re just spamming BT, execute procs and rampage
yeah but battle trance again doesnt work with the new reckless abandon crushing blow
classic blizz 
dont worry will probably be fixed in s3 or s4
Do you mix slam into that rotation at all?
I feel like I have a lot of downtime.
Feels more like Arms than Fury.
Wait really? Why is annihilator doing so well
damage is solid and the self healing is very high
SMF annihilator?
I don't care if it's good just viable
Yossarion a mage player anyway.
U wish
Mages love 1h
My warrior mog would leave u speechless
🏃♀️
Nah I'm just a og warrior when they used 1hers it was cool. Dual wielding 2hers is like blizz asked a 12 year old what sounds cool and they got that
I actually hate the mog for 2x 2h.. but.. what can you do
People who like tg like tauren because muh minotaur so epic!!!!11
Play female draenei cause their weapons are so small the 2hers look like 1h
Well post your anni build im bored wanna run around hitting people
@thorn herald
Pin it Mr SF @elfin surge
@knotty atlas
WHat
Mwahi would put mud in the dirt, but could you pin the actual tree please?
i knew it
calling my build thrash
@knotty atlas can you remove all the pins
true
I hope you never find a good build :<
Now make a Prot one.
Noooo mwahi, you ruining the place :(
for less than aweek?
Mud ur the SF
@steep inlet post ur prot build i hear is good
Make a prot build
am not
he is the single fart
mods hate pvpers after what happened
Pretend you are
we cannot be trusted
Maybe itll randomly yellow you
Mud is too toxic to be sf 
Copium
💀💀💀
i am very untoxic and rational being me stormforged

too bad ur 1300
Do you hear yourself
Came here for pin-less chat. Was disappointed.
gungaginga
The worst era
Brother i couldnt see my character over this guys /y GUNGAGINGAGUNGAGINGA macro

ragingblow gungaginga macro bis
@knotty atlas we need a sf
No you don't.
we need a sf or you are our sf
or we keep being a lawless land and return to bench checks
We don’t need a sf
Mawhi for SF
Especially not mud
