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raw summit
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As is fury

elfin surge
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Arms is better in prepatch

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cuz condemn

bronze light
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ye not in beta tho 😦

elfin surge
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arms worst melee on beta

brazen rock
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fury is 'fine'

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high B low A if you had to tierlist it imo\

muted surge
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Imagine having pins

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Mwhai should remove the arms pin as well

wheat jay
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Tag him and ask

muted surge
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No.

copper hare
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wrecking for absorb shit, shattering for pala mage etc

lean burrow
copper hare
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by a mile yeah

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maybe when you train a disc cd reduction could be nice

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I hope they remove the cast time whenever you wanna swap a talent though

remote hawk
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Do u think arms will be nice in pvp?

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😦

raw summit
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no

remote hawk
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wont they improve it ?

raw summit
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if they feel like it

remote hawk
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is it really that bad now ?

sharp meteor
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Yes.

undone ermine
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Feel like I'm stuck in rating hell, always someone I can't carry through at least two games and I don't gain tangible rating unless I got 5-1 or better in solo.

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You know the ones, the types who get blown up through an intervene AND rallying cry.

wheat jay
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Not like those are strong defensives

undone ermine
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Nah, but it'll be at the start of the round when they have their own defensives.

wheat jay
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It is what it is

undone ermine
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Helpful.

brazen rock
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its prepatch lol

undone ermine
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It's the core design of solo shuffle, not sure how that'll change with the new xpac.

wheat jay
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That's how its going to be tho, dont expect anything else

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Its like rated games in LoL

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There's always some inter on your team

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You have to carry hard enough to still win despite having dead weights in your team

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Or be lucky enough to have people carry you when you're a dead weight

tribal wedge
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at least, you don't have to play the entire game with the inter, so carry the one without him

undone ermine
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Usually do, but that means like 4-2 at the moment and I get like... 5 rating for it?

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If I do go 5, usually someone leaves.

wheat jay
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That's how its gonna look like

undone ermine
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Depresso expresso.

lucid walrus
undone ermine
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Real mmr?

wheat jay
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Now its scuffed cuz its off-season

undone ermine
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Mechanically scuffed, or no one takes it seriously so they're happy to leave and trash their own rating scuffed?

green wyvern
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ladder isnt implemented

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your rating might as well be random number

wheat jay
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Rating rn doesnt matter at all

sharp meteor
undone ermine
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Well that helps a bit; might actually be possible to climb in a real season if there's less leavers.

vocal vector
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as a pvp virgin would a woyer be a good class to start pvping on? i get this is pretty low iq question but bare with me

craggy socket
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Whats the best race for warrior on ally side now

near delta
brazen rock
vocal vector
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not human?

severe skiff
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Gnome

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way more roots in DF

vocal vector
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im gonna go human

brazen rock
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Forgot about gnome, yeah 1min root break and 5 extra max rage is dank. and 1% haste

craggy socket
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Why human?

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The relentless trinket is gone

severe skiff
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Looks good in mogs, gives you effectively a 1min30sec trinket when it comes to stuns only, rep boost in a new expansion can be useful, haste proc and badge while still having a stun trinket in some matchups

vocal vector
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for one im a pvp brainlet, im mainly a M+ addict

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while my brain always minmaxes i dont think i can take the gnome pill

severe skiff
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Nothing says dominance asserted like getting bodied by a gnome

craggy socket
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why not dark iorn

severe skiff
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Dark iron is one of the better races for sure

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truth is the diff between them all is fairly minor now and you can pick based on aesthetic alone, and most races have a racial which can help you in some situation one way or another

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Evokers 1min cd root, heal monks and all priests getting roots, all hunter specs getting root trap and 3sec root on snare trap, think shaman root totem is 1min cd now too?

vocal vector
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so i take it you pick a racial based on whats dominant in that season, ie if a lot of stuns (rogue poggerino for example) u'd go human?

severe skiff
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gnome racial is simple to use and highly effective in pvp for a warrior

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it's off the global cooldown, it doesn't put your medallion on any sort of cooldown

vocal vector
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does human racial share cd with trinket? or wait did they remove the pvp trinket?

severe skiff
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You picked orc before because it was entirely passive power and you didn't have to use it correctly to get full benefit, now it doesn't matter

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using human racial puts medallion on a 1min30sec cd

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and likewise using medallion puts human racial on a 1min30sec cd

vocal vector
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oh so human is now useless?

severe skiff
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Using dwarf or dark iron dwarf puts medallion on a 30sec cd, and the other way around as well using medallion puts dwarf racials on a 30sec cd

brazen rock
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if you aint r1 just pick based on drip tbh

severe skiff
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It's not useless but its not as MASSIVE as it was before

vocal vector
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bro im obviously r1 wtf u mean

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u playing dawg?

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whats DI racial again?

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i thought it was remove poison or something?

severe skiff
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poison/disease/magic/bleed/curse cleanse + primary stat boost + additional stat per effect removed

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it does trigger dispel protections, like if you use it to clear a UA you'll take the UA backlash damage

spice hornet
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Also puts pvp trinket on cd seramore

severe skiff
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yeah 30sec

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it actually gives you massive stat boost, nearly season1 max ilvl badge value + a significant amount per effect cleansed, 10sec duration

vocal vector
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regular dwarf works the same too?

severe skiff
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dwarf is the same thing minus the stat boost but has 10% physical damage reduction for the duration of the racial

vocal vector
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seems good for pve too

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especially for prot

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which i like too

severe skiff
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regular dwarf has 1-2% crit damage bonus passive, dark iron 1% phys dmg reduction

vocal vector
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altho idk how magic/physical dam heavy df dungerinos are

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damn do i go drip (human) or minmax (di/regular dwarf)

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gotta think :D

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altho for a noob it prolly doesnt matter much huh ?

severe skiff
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def does not matter much

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dwarf warrior is pretty cool aesthetically tho imo

brazen rock
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it really doesn't matter outside of top 0.5%

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The exception is night elf for rogue/druid to get ez restealths and druids to autowin cyclone duels

severe skiff
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benefit of not being like every other human female warrior

vocal vector
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ye i love dwarves minus that goofy ass running animation they changed

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bro

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im going male human

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i only play fem nelves with slutmogs

severe skiff
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I imagine having a stun break while using 2x pve trinkets in pve is pretty useful in mythic+/raid

sharp meteor
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shitpick races also less shitpicky with trinket change so that's really nice

wet scarab
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lmao watching @elfin surge streaming fury self heal builds and he hates every minute of it even as he wins

sharp meteor
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another season of being a rampage presser

wet scarab
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he did a build where he was only pressing bloodthirst lmao

sharp meteor
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ya it does not feel fun

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actual 1 button statcheck

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heals for a lot

near delta
wet scarab
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haha it's so funny how depressed he sounds that fury might end up being better

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I remember smexxin would find every excuse to play fury

copper hare
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arms is literally the same boring shit

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tbh

sharp meteor
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fury was legit

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raging blow into rampage

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and it's still that except no storm to dodge cc

wet scarab
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fury being a 1-2 button spec is not actually a meme

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it's a fact

thorn escarp
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When are they gonna fix def stance cause it’s shit

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Dieing in stuns is not fun

spice hornet
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@elfin surge if you’re queueing I recommend stopping - orchillez is queueing on his dh again

elfin surge
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i hate playing warrior in prepatch

brazen rock
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play prot serioussloth

craggy socket
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yall like necro or kyrian for solo

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Evoker is like the only viable healer now it seems lol

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Theyre so insane it makes other healers look bad

steep inlet
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MW s tier too

full quiver
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Rdruid still feels very strong

marble bone
cinder thorn
hard hound
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Depend of enemy compo

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If you certain to hit 2 target get ww if you can hit only 1 by 1 take single target

fickle forge
vast sierra
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overpower mortal strike slam execute dander

fickle forge
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Almost like all rotations are simple

tribal wedge
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at least arms rotation don't give carpal tunnel syndrome

raw summit
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fury doesnt either man

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or do you have raging blow on a shift modifier

wheat crane
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Scroll wheel up rampage, scroll down raging blow

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Just spin to win bby

warped warren
gloomy hamlet
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if well balanced in DF, what would u put your money on in a 1v1 warrior vs DH?

cinder thorn
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I don't know what you guys moaning about arms being bad, I just 1v2 a rogue and warrior in BG and I'm not even venthyr and only like 9 renown so nothing else unlocked

Honestly I'm not feeling bad about DF, I think we will be fine

patent musk
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it just undertuned, need some love numbers before release, mustly MS

cinder thorn
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Yes and they slowly doing it

patent musk
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hope they do, i love Arms, Fury is boring

brazen rock
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come back when a monks RSK does 2x your MS damage with 0 setup.

copper hare
# fickle forge How so?

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy war, basically my main for over a decade. But with all the pruning and dmg shifting after legion arms feels really bland. But this is the case for a lot of specs. They tried to compensate for it with all that borrowed power in bfa and with covenants, but the core abilties still feel weak as fuck specially for both war specs

fickle forge
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Idk dude, think arms was solid af in SL

hard hound
fickle forge
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And the design is still there

brazen rock
fickle forge
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SL arms could straight up delete your character from the game and login screen

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It was dumb

copper hare
brazen rock
wise parcel
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Hi everyone, how should I be trying to use my stormbolt in arena? and fear-shout, those are my only two CC's right?

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Stormbolt, then fear them to chain out of it?

sharp meteor
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Depends on comp and gamestate.

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Maybe you fling at healer and feral/ret stuns kill target.

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Other times you'll send it into kill target.

sharp meteor
marble bone
marble bone
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(Unless you actually crit with two-three condemns in a row)

cinder thorn
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I clapped my thunder thighs and they died from rend dots 😝

sharp meteor
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I've actually seen posts like this on the forums, it's wild.

cinder thorn
spice hornet
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how does bnet still have that bug where you can't see your friends list

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jesus

muted surge
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You mean “not having friends”? That’s not on blizzard

spice hornet
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rogues unable to cloak out of spear now?

sharp meteor
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I think it was changed to be physical.

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the dot, anyways, but I'm not sure. Revival/cloak, etc, not ripping it off is a big deal.

spice hornet
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yeah so far 2 rogues cloaked and tried to walk out but failed

sharp meteor
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🥰

spice hornet
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@elfin surge this thing wrecks u mid stream while youre boosting another 1200 rated viewer, WYD?

elfin surge
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good mog

spice hornet
sharp meteor
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Fox gang.

muted surge
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It’s no wonder you all are wearing thick helmets

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Couldn’t look at the furry face either

sharp meteor
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I usually just wear glasses.

marble bone
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fox new bis?!

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brb lvling another warrior

spice hornet
sharp meteor
full quiver
topaz prairie
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Any tips for situations where you feel like youre permanently slowed against ranged classes?

sharp meteor
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Figure out how to use mobility/positioning better.

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Generally you'll have uptime for high damage windows.

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For instance you'll want to have bolt, at least a charge of...charge and ideally leap before bursting. So whatever they use you'll then still be able to stick.

spice hornet
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Fox is BiS for keys as well if you’re horde

near delta
sharp meteor
thick reef
near delta
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Oh damn that looks really cool

sharp meteor
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Legion was a great time for elite sets.

sage raptor
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And now is a great time for you shutting the fuck up

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C:

sage raptor
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I'm sorry 😞

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The intrusive thoughts won

shut barn
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Wow logic is trash how can a fox or gnome wield a big two handed weapons

patent musk
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the only class gnomes should be is rogue, because yes

wheat jay
thick reef
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Ez

wheat jay
brazen rock
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bring back tmorph sadga

wheat jay
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Id 100% use it

thorn herald
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Imorph is a thing

wheat jay
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Bannable

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Well, was always bannable

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But now more than before

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Meaning i wont risk it

spice hornet
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Imorph also randomly DCs me

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So I stopped

thorn herald
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Imorph causes a lot of lua errors

sharp meteor
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Not gambling with the 1% chance of a ban. deadge

wheat jay
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Precisely

undone pumice
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why would it be bannable??

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doesnt affect gameplay

brazen rock
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modifying game code in unintended ways, there's some shady shit you can do with tmorph/Imorph

undone pumice
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ok but what if im not doing that

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why would i be banned

brazen rock
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Easier to flat ban it then spend time on a case-by-base basis.

undone pumice
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cringe blizz wont let me lmorph into a gnome

brazen rock
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race change gnome anyways cuz escape artist is pog

arctic igloo
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Just play gnome then

copper hare
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So, where was a banwave going around like a year ago, but that wasn't specifically for morph clients, rather for multiboxing and their new policy for it right? But their system also banned a lot of Imorph users because there was some weird issue with the gamepad input or something.

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I pretty much used jmorph/tmorph etc since the beginning and never had issues or bans cuz of it. And I don't think blizzard ever stated that they would specifically look up and ban morph users. But it can happen ofc

merry valley
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When u play into DH and he manages to lose every round

hearty horizon
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Is slaughterhouse fury's only mandatory PvP talent? Maybe Disarm against certain bursty melee?

brazen rock
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Demolition is hilarious against MW

undone pumice
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slaughterhouse isnt even mandatory

spice hornet
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when u rebound a fotm destro incin

undone pumice
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afaik during shadowlands we could just forgo slaughter vs rm 2s for example

brazen rock
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Yeah but for 3s its pretty much a must-take i think?

spice hornet
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depends if ur qing with someting that can overwrite it

sharp meteor
undone pumice
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sometimes u q with stronger

sharp meteor
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random battlegrounds for instance where mortal dance is just everywhere

undone pumice
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grievous wounds

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where its wasted or perma deleted

sharp meteor
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Slaughter is the strongest.

undone pumice
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cancer

spice hornet
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@elfin surge i think u need to say stuff like this to become Stormforged, I believe

sharp meteor
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🐼

undone pumice
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isnt sharpen 50

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for pvp

spice hornet
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ye but how often do u have sharpen up

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vs. 40% ms

sharp meteor
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Yes, but that'd involve queuing arms/fury.

undone pumice
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in like

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bg

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u see hella arms

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ngl

sharp meteor
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Stop lying.

undone pumice
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must be my luck

spice hornet
worn yoke
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Do you guys like insignia or badge for fury pvp?

brazen rock
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Resonator

spice hornet
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sad that shit is still good

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even see priests using it

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lol

spice hornet
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@sharp meteor how do you feel about bag of tricks

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in pvp

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lol

sharp meteor
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Feels bad, mang, but a 5-8k hit when disarmed could be worse.

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Nose is honestly decent into demo, though, as it applies to each pet.

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so you can absorb a few hundred thousand pet pad.

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(then get mowed down by the tyrant)

spice hornet
spice hornet
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an 1800 lock/ele were able to just kite me to 70% damp

warped warren
spice hornet
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before dying

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kekw

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shaman kit is just so huge

indigo barn
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bUt DoUbLe ChArGe StOrMbOlT

spice hornet
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they had a lot there

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lasso, GW pillar hump + some sort of sprint with that, thunderstorm, earthgrab, lock gate

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oh frost shock root too

sharp meteor
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Yeah, so, shaman has two knocks and two roots, I think.

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Gonna be really obnoxious on maps like sewers.

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just get dooted off into root.

spice hornet
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ya it was horrible

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ow a dh just domed me with a 68k hunt

scarlet citrus
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hi everybody ! i get a warrior, and i want a good talents tree for pvp, maybe a guide if you guys have plz ?

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lvl 60 obv

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tell me plz 😉

grand mural
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arms/fury/prot ?

spice hornet
lean burrow
warped warren
frank knoll
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Gnome meta inc for fury warrior

warped warren
sharp meteor
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Fury already has a root break. Hydrate

hazy isle
vocal flint
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@frank knoll Dark Iron its rly broken too i think no ?

elfin surge
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orc is best

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u guys are stupid

thorn herald
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humans best

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or female LFD if you have a godly brown/gold mog

grand mural
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Orc/gnome

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Arms gnome warrior was disgusting against rmp

sly walrus
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Surely if orc was so good it’d be pinned right

shut barn
grand mural
shut barn
near delta
spice hornet
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Not playing vulpera furry warrior

muted surge
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patent musk
muted surge
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but still hella unbalanced

marble bone
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So much rng with teams though

muted surge
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i would say that the team with a guard druid has a way bewtter chance

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same with aff lock and uhdk

marble bone
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Solo shuffle works-ish due to rotating players around. Not sure how you’d do that with rbg

patent musk
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ill take the rng everyday, dont care if people can play whatever they want and not wait like 3 hours for someone to accept you cause of spec

marble bone
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Thats true, and thats why I love solo shuffle and have wanted a solo option for ages

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Just queue and go

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No fucking LFG for hours just to have someone rage quit after one match because we couldnt carry his entitled ass and 2.2k rbg exp 😅

muted surge
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yea totally

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im just scared of the double dh in solo :D

patent musk
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a system with some check boxes, like the tank, 3 healers, 3 or 4 range, 3 or 4 melees, and something like that, and accurate MMR, not puting 1000 rating with like 1800, 100 or 200 range

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imagine someone like me who likes to play Survi Hunter, but no one invites you cause´of people think is shit, even if the damage is way up high at some points, not be discriminated

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or Enhas, im happy when i see enhas in RBG scenarios, or any spec thats is not the common

muted surge
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and then get flamed during the whole game :D

patent musk
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you do top damage, cc´s , kicks in the game and get flamed jajajaja

spice hornet
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rbg should just be 6v6

patent musk
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jerks are everywhere

spice hornet
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rbg is a cancer bracket that needs to be deleted

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most toxic players main that gamemode

patent musk
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agreed in toxicity, but the gamemode for me is amazing

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i dont lik arenas

muted surge
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6v6 wontwork for the bgs tho

patent musk
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thats why im going to made groups on my one

spice hornet
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it wouldn't be so bad if they actively balanced guardians and stuff

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but sitting for 3 hours in LFG waiting for Ragnaros Guardian who is wearing the wrong leggo and gets sapped capped isnt fun at all

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they need to do some rbg-specific tweaking for it to be fun

velvet grail
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Im usually at around 1500-1900 in arena. Never done rbg's And im always pugging cause im mainly a pve player and play with only pve players..i just casually dab into arena whenever i have time. Any tips on where i could find a rbg community? I wanna get atleast 1800 rating in DF

sharp meteor
muted surge
muted surge
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or just go on the forum and join one, there are multiple

patent musk
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and mark the toxic ones, you dont have to play with assholes

cinder thorn
cinder thorn
spice hornet
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Has anyone been queueing with a healer evoker in 2s? I've been playin a lot with one and I don't find it to synergize too well with us, but unsure if thats due to the state of warr atm vs. some of the broken sht.

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for example they can only remove a curse once a minute

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so u q into warlock putting amp curses on u all game is seramore

elfin surge
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@spice hornet you should 100% feel ashamed of yourself. People that are around you should reevaluate, especially these streamers. Shits insane, stop speaking.

spice hornet
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@ stormforged

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Help

elfin surge
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the biggest bomb

spice hornet
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xaryu is a lil cooked

proven maple
sage raptor
spice hornet
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@sage raptorMud face reveal

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Waiting for the glizzy reveal next

sage raptor
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That's mud?

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He looks like that crybaby mage streamer

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What's his name

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I can't remember

brazen rock
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xaryu

sage raptor
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Yeah him

brazen rock
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the one that cries about deep freeze on a daily basis

sage raptor
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Yeah!

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Among other things

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He's the perfect embodiment of a WoW streamer.

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To me

cinder thorn
sage raptor
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Yknow

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A few simple tweaks and I could see that

raw summit
sage raptor
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True

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He unironically believes that actors aren't paid by politicians

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Among other stupid things

full quiver
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anyone else d/c and can't log in?

brazen fjord
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yo dark iron dwarf for warrior or what? lol

sharp meteor
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Game shitting itself again, lads.

sharp meteor
undone ermine
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Just got server shutdown messages on crack.

brazen fjord
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thats my thinking as well

severe skiff
pale minnow
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Yo guys does anyone pinged yet something about how to counter each class? Could come in handy for those who don't know what to do on difficult moments, example when a class is bursting what to do, what to press, when they use a deff cd etc etc. For new players could be alot of help especially in these dark times when warrior ain't top tier

near delta
fringe spruce
sharp meteor
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Just eyeball how your comp could better slot stuff into the matchup until you find something that works.

brazen rock
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because orc

thorn herald
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did they ever change LFD racial to not scale off modifiers

full quiver
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What do we even get from 2.1 next season

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Are the mogs still tied to rating

sharp meteor
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Mogs should be unlocked by 1800

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As far as I saw there weren't elite weapons

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Conquest set is purple, elite is orange, and the weapons are kind of both.

royal marten
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is there a website where i can find pvp fury builds

sharp meteor
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You can look up people who were high rated last season then copy-paste their build off drustvar/checkpvp.

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Keep in mind that this just shows generalist stuff and not what people swap to matchup to matchup, also that we're still literally pre-expansion so people are messing around.

copper hare
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I really liked sets for 2.1 and enchants for 2.4 back then, felt more rewarding imo

royal marten
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ty ty

sharp meteor
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Sets were 2200 then 2000 with enchants at...2200 and 2400. Tabards have been anywhere from...2350 to 2600, I think. All over the place with rewards. 😵‍💫 I kind of wish they'd do something between glad and r1 if they're going to have seasons be long/inflated.

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Unchained cutoff was like a full thousand points above gladiator.

full quiver
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Or wep enchant still 2.1

indigo barn
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Nobody knows what wep looks like

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And wep 2.1 still

copper hare
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There is still something else, like an item that makes your armor glow

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Which is new

full quiver
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Neat

indigo barn
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Yeah, hit elite, keystone hero or ce

full quiver
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Feel like no one will play 2s

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Without bonuses lol

indigo barn
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And you can make non mythic/elite armour have the lightning effects

copper hare
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Why are we calling elite sets elite when they're available for rival 🤔

indigo barn
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And I think there are going to be elite weapon models as there are raid recolours and aspirant relocolours that come under 'crimson gladiator'

copper hare
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But I think they said they won't implement some rewards immediately right

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Ok found it

sharp meteor
#

Yep.

indigo barn
#

🤔 making sure no solo shuffle exploiters?

sharp meteor
#

It's just the standard conquest ones.

copper hare
#

Dude is that a rat

sharp meteor
#

No.

indigo barn
sharp meteor
#

Hopefully they add a tint for each.

copper hare
#

Stop playing rats

sharp meteor
#

No.

sharp meteor
#

Back in the day it was 2200, then 2000, and since BFA it has been 1800. Which...I think is a little too free, but hey, whatever. The 2400 elite thing is a cool idea.

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Like, the appearance changer thing.

copper hare
#

Yeah but it is kinda sad when you see everyone with these Sets because I think blizz made an awesome Job with them this time

full quiver
#

1800 was hard for me the first time

indigo barn
#

Elite weapon models

sharp meteor
#

Oh, brilliant.

sharp meteor
copper hare
spice hornet
#

Hopefully one of the seasons is Azure Gladiator

#

Would be fitting

#

Since we got bought by Microsoft

warped warren
sharp meteor
#

Yeah, elite weapons existed in wotlk but the gear only started in cata and required 2200

#

which was dropped to 2000 after tyrannical

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then 1800 in dread

pale lintel
#

Is gnome the way to go now that human racial passive is gimped by new trinkets?

warped warren
#

for sure

pale lintel
#

👍

warped warren
copper hare
marble bone
#

not as hot as female dwarf though

undone pumice
#

handlebars

copper hare
nimble forge
#

No 🤧🤧

lucid walrus
#

worgen only have 4 claws on their hands

#

no clue how that works w/ the whole transformation thing

indigo barn
#

I mean we also have 4 fingers

median shuttle
#

aCtuAlLy iTs A tHuMb

#

stfu

#

thumbs are fingers

indigo barn
muted surge
vestal quail
#

Will resonator be in dragonflight?

undone pumice
#

afaik no

frank knoll
pale lintel
fickle forge
#

Bloodrage

pale lintel
#

Oh interesting, that's only on fury?
If so what race would be replacement? Dwarf /di Dwarf, mechagnome, kultiran?

scarlet barn
#

This karg man

pale lintel
#

?

pale lintel
#

Alliance only sorry

elfin surge
#

then die alliance scum

pale lintel
#

So I guess what should I die with.

elfin surge
#

hmm

#

Dark iron or human prob good

pale lintel
#

Thanks zug zug keep up the killing

fickle forge
warped warren
elfin surge
warped warren
#

mid peepoHappyFisher

frank knoll
#

Bloodrage is dust

fathom aspen
#

Just went 6-0 in a ranked solo shuffle as Arms... why does the game do this to me???

warped warren
#

yooooooooo no waaaaaay

elfin surge
#

Yo does anyone have working intervene macros for solo shuffle?
I use @ name ones which is aids for solo shuffle so i've been using my mouseover one.
@ party ones are always buggin

fathom aspen
#

I have not had success with the party ones

full quiver
#

I think there's some setting you can turn on

#

Makes the party members in same order

elfin surge
#

mouseover intervene is very aids to use

#

i need to find a fix

sterile socket
#

I use charge intervene, with the intervene mouse over on raid frames

full quiver
#

You can just use party ones in the opening room

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If they're flipped for some reason just swap the binds

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That's what I used to do before I swapped to name ones

indigo barn
#

Just dont use intervene wicked

fathom aspen
#

You can't save the 50k HPers anyway

fathom aspen
#

I don't know how we can be expected to just give up Condemn

#

I'm not happy

tribal wedge
#

it's gonna be ok (it won't)

fathom aspen
#

Could be a song title

muted surge
#

Condemn is a shit spell

lean burrow
rotund badge
#

Hmm, I haven’t had any trouble with the party intervene macros. What does it look like when it bugs out?

brazen ivy
elfin surge
#

its slow asf

full quiver
#

intervene the least of your problems little warrior boy

sharp meteor
#

can be okay if you know what you're looking for

#

very bad in a pinch though like intervening something in particular

#

when possible, like in arena where you really only need 2 extra binds, it's preferable

fickle forge
#

I have mouseover for non-arena situations

#

Party12 otherwise

raw summit
#

^

#

Same

undone pumice
#

focus intervene macro enjoyers

#

🧌

raw summit
#

???

#

Focus is for stun and kick man

hard hound
#

you can interv fokus if the fokus is an ally

#

but usualy fokus is for enemy

elfin surge
#

big damage

sinful carbon
#

guys, how much rating i need to buy shield in dragonflight

sharp meteor
#

You don't need rating to buy stuff.

#

You need it to upgrade the pve ilev.

fathom aspen
#

Shield is only like 525conq I think

sinful carbon
#

i just want the tmog

#

cause the coolest shield is the pvp one :madge:

fathom aspen
#

Isn't it just a recolor of the previous one

#

Pve****

sinful carbon
#

ye but it looks much better

fathom aspen
#

If you a tank just spam solo queue and you could prob get it in a hour or less

sinful carbon
#

but then its just 0 rating conquest as well, thats lit

#

thanks

elfin surge
sinful carbon
elfin surge
#

are there elite shields ? i dont even know

sinful carbon
#

the flame one looks best obviously

elfin surge
#

I assume thats the elite one then

sinful carbon
#

thats the only pvp one

#

rest are from 4 raid difficulties

#

or well it only says crimson gladiators bulwark

muted surge
#

Is there even an elite gear atm

#

Thought that comes later

elfin surge
#

tabard*

muted surge
#

okay so theres no elite?

#

or we dont see it on beta bcs its max level

thick reef
#

Elite pvp armor has an elite.

The weapons do not

muted surge
#

maybe im just dumb rn

thick reef
#

Maybe a big maybe intentional

sharp meteor
#

Because the fully upgraded weapons from vendors don't have a new appearance.

muted surge
#

oh wait im dumb

runic galleon
#

yea

grand mural
#

Red is elite purple is basic

sharp meteor
#

Yeah, purple is conquest and orange is elite.

#

Hoping there's some shiny elite weaponry. bedge

lean burrow
#

white is better sadge

#

shame it's mythic raid

fickle forge
#

Red is best wdym

#

I'll for sure be collecting mogs this season

#

Most of them are Chad af

#

Does shuffle give elite mogs though?

thorn herald
sharp meteor
frank knoll
#

Anyone try the annihilator build as fury?

#

I saw supatease using it. But Doesn’t raging blow as a button do more damage

hard hound
#

Haha his build have nonsense , he take hack and slash with annihilator

waxen knot
waxen knot
#

Don’t like that one as much

hard hound
#

Seems he don’t read talents

velvet grail
#

is there a way to see how left the solo shuffle to throw it? Like im not kidding that my last 8 matches..people have left last round.

hard hound
#

Stop play solo shuffle until df

fossil mortar
#

The first guy to leave is found in the chatlog catman

velvet grail
hard hound
#

Don’t care about lose cr atm

velvet grail
#

unless the punishments are going to be more strict, then solo shuffle is perfect for manchilds to troll and ruin the game for others. Like 10 min off and 100 rating derank..when you can easily gain 3-400 is nothing

hard hound
#

When you got good cr you don’t take 3-400

#

At some point the amount of cr you take is low

#

So loose 100 - 150 cr at 2k2 + is big

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And you have nothing to loose in prepatch when you leave

#

Cr mean nothing

frank knoll
frank knoll
hard hound
frank knoll
#

Brother cut to the chase

sharp oar
#

any arms warrior streamers on beta?

hard hound
hard hound
waxen knot
short sable
#

anyone got a bg/rbg pvp talent build?

#

for fury

frank knoll
#

What’s the nut dragging build lmao

#

I’ve just been playing RA-3x RB and the talent that procs the old 4 set

fathom aspen
velvet grail
fathom aspen
#

For real

elfin surge
brazen rock
#

I audibly gagged, thanks mud.

elfin surge
sly walrus
#

Mud can you post a smf fury build just so I can post it in #fury and get them all riled up?

wheat crane
#

Make it specifically like a smf + whirlwind build

sly walrus
#

It’s such easy bait

wheat crane
#

Get them REAL fucking mad

#

Then after like ten minutes be like "alright good points i revised my build without smf "

#

Then link them an arms build

short sable
sly walrus
marble bone
#

Dagger new bis?!

frank knoll
spice hornet
#

Thanks

#

Where’s that one cooked guy in here that thinks wrath 2v2 is skill

#

Thinkin about him

frank knoll
#

I think hack and slash makes annihilator proc more

rare ibex
#

Not sure what happened in the patch today, but Arms feels WAY worse in arenas.

rare ibex
#

Yeah I know.. but it felt fine until today. Now I'm paper and doing shit damage. Might be placebo I guess, since we didn't get nerfed on paper.

full quiver
#

No joke but didn't arms get buffs?

elfin surge
#

: (

full quiver
#

"Buffs" I guess lol

elfin surge
#

yeah i love that bladestorm does 1/16th of an auto attack per tick now

#

wait i cant even spec into it

#

cuz forced into condemn talents

severe skiff
#

Bet dekel would stay arms even if it was bad, just saying

elfin surge
#

who?

near delta
#

Umm is devastation super broken or is it just prepatch shenanigans?

#

I just got hit for a 105k living flame lol

sage raptor
#

Is prot the only spec with the condemn execute animation?

near delta
#

*fire breath

elfin surge
#

Massacre talent gives you condemn animation

sage raptor
#

Ohhh okay

#

Ty

severe skiff
#

Their mastery isn't something that can be balanced in pvp, it leads to one shots, they still do it at 70

near delta
sage raptor
#

Who?

elfin surge
sage raptor
#

It's him

#

Mike Jones

rare ibex
#

I hit 2100 with arms today and then promptly dropped 300 pts

#

might have to go fury like you said

near delta
#

I'm so sick of button mashing 😐

elfin surge
#

wtf is this man

#

i cant get a solo shuffle q

severe skiff
#

I thought it was bugged to where if it didn't pop at a certain time threshold, it will never pop

rare ibex
#

It's been super streaky for me.. 7m wait takes 25 mins

severe skiff
#

and you have to reque

elfin surge
#

i did re queue

#

20 mins in now with this one and the average wait time keeps going up

severe skiff
#

Dhs are in bed I guess

elfin surge
#

last solo shuffle i was in had 0 dhs dks or warlocks

#

it was wonderful

rare ibex
#

I just had one with only 1 warlock and 1 evoker and I won 5/6.

#

DH/DK/SP/Evoker/Lock just make us look like shit don't they?

spice hornet
elfin surge
#

peon

spice hornet
#

@ orchillez come take care of him again

#

plz

elfin surge
near delta
#

@spice hornet Are you and Mud good?

spice hornet
#

we've been beefin

#

lately

near delta
#

Damn

elfin surge
#

we not good

spice hornet
#

i know he loves me tho

sharp meteor
# elfin surge

Might have to drop and requeue. I think it bugs after like 5-10 minutes.

rare ibex
#

Also I think it fucks up if you go afk

#

Twice now I moved the camera in the game after watching netflix for 25 mins and got insta-pops.

sharp meteor
#

Worked fine before they deleted tank matches. My theory was that after 5 minutes or something it threw you into the bigger pool (with tanks) after prioritizing healers but now as tank matches are gone it just breaks.

elfin surge
#

new queue

#

pog still waiting

full quiver
#

Probably trying to put you with 3 dhs

elfin surge
#

i love that

full quiver
#

All woth s3 1600 dh xp

#

S4 prepatch 2700 shuffle

elfin surge
#

3100xp DH LF 1600 2s push

#

gunna be in LFG next ssn

#

from prepatch exp

rare ibex
#

I'm just sick of seeing evokers with 110k hps on glad mounts in my shitty mmr.

#

Root -> one-shot

#

I fucking dance all day too

spice hornet
#

orchjillez (one of the best furry warrior NA) decided to hop on an alt DH he never plays and fought against Mud/FeedGod in 2s - smoked them with relative ease.

full quiver
#

I think you could link up the neuralink monkey to a computer playing dh and it would beat mud in 2s

tender tangle
#

Does arms get any better in dragonflight at 70? Feels bad when your 2x executioners, 2x overpower + cs, avatar hits for 20k

tender tangle
sharp meteor
#

the deepest

rare ibex
#

I'm sure we'll get a 7% aura buff soon.

elfin surge
#

not even trolling

rare ibex
#

Honestly, I'm liking the fury builds with like 4 buttons in PVE. Wonder if there's something similar and viable in PVP

spice hornet
#

it's really bad im gonna stick with it though

#

glad solo shuffle exists they cant discriminate if im arms or not

near delta
#

Dipi was saying the best fury build he's seen on alpha that no one's really playing is completely focused on blood thirst

spice hornet
#

had some people /rofl at me tho for being arms

near delta
#

Was gonna t ry to mess around with that

full quiver
#

Lol

#

No troll you should just play frost dk instead of fury

#

Smashing frost strike obliterate feels way better than bloodthirst rampage

#

And you actually have a little bit of nuance with your go set up

craggy socket
#

You guys think DK is better than Warr?

#

No way?!

lucid walrus
#

rn? absolutely

fathom aspen
#

I think I would just keep maining Outlaw at this rate, though it could all obviously change after a week

#

What's "better" right now DK wise? I'm assuming Unholy right now.

craggy socket
#

I think DK is unholy and frost

#

I bet DK gets nerfed hard af

#

like both are good

fathom aspen
#

Pets probably give the edge to Unholy in SS right? Average solo queuers prob not that great at playing around pets

muted surge
#

Fdk is just the better arms atm

thorn herald
#

no ones going to disarm your go

#

games are over nearly instantly

fathom aspen
#

Will probably just stick with Arms, assuming it gets better at some patch. Played Outlaw 90% of Shadowlands even when it was meh, then overnight it was easily the best melee, so it can happen!

sharp meteor
#

Pillar gets disarmed insta every time.

#

Although Frost has the benefit of just having the gigantic opener which is useful in shuffle

#

and you just win second or third pillar because cds have been scuffed by then

fickle forge
#

Icecap go brrrr

#

AM go brrrrr

sharp meteor
#

like isn't damp 60-70% by second limb

fickle forge
#

Disarm value flop

fathom aspen
#

Can't you go on disarm tho, they can't DS

craggy socket
#

Im just waiting for inevetiable huge balancing patch that makes S-Tier poo and B-tier S Tier

#

Always happens

fathom aspen
#

Yeah but if B Tier is more specs than S it'll at least seem palatable.

craggy socket
#

DH is the only locked on nerf I see

#

Buffs to hunter mage and warrior probably coming

primal flax
#

Imagine if Bladestorm actually did dmg again and MS didn't hit like a auto

#

Would be nice

fickle forge
#

BS is lowkey the highest dmg button now

#

But really only cause everything else was gutted

#

420% AP shouldn't be slept on though

muted surge
#

But nothing compared to wotlk :(

thorn herald
#

?

#

eh its too chaotic for everytime

thorn herald
#

also why do female goblins have abs

copper hare
#

They skip the carbs

primal flax
#

Actually fair point on the 420%ap. I haven't had a true chance to experiment with it bc well can't spec into it lol.

thorn herald
#

it also gets amped by all the buttons

primal flax
#

True

#

I just see Evokers hitting 100k aoe breaths and I'm like...tf

#

Anyways it 3 am...I must sleep

median shuttle
#

I'm tryna learn unholy till arms gets buffed sadge

undone ermine
#

I'm learning evoker for the same reason, it's like bringing a shotgun to a knife fight.

frank knoll
frank knoll
wooden grove
frank knoll
#

Frost can finally do damage outside of their pillar, oblit, limb go

#

If they stay as tanky as they are people will start calling for nerfs

muted surge
#

Nerf arms

elfin surge
#

nerf bladestorm

copper hare
#

buff warlock

muted surge
#

Give dh titangrip

frank knoll
#

I remember DHs wanting a disarm

elfin surge
#

they already gave every spec in the game our ms

#

why not give everything disarm too

#

blizz logic

thick reef
#

DH have heroic leap they can go to hell

muted surge
#

Their kit is undertuned anyway

sly walrus
#

Rogue should get bs just cause they also have blades

muted surge
#

But give us shuriken storm or whatever it’s called

wooden grove
#

Aoe rage spender though…

fathom aspen
#

I mean Outlaw gets Blade Rush but they put it on the meme side of the tree

#

You can even build your own Sudden Death with some of the Ambush talents

cinder thorn
#

Can someone explain to me the hunter wall hack

And also can they shoot at you through the wall or just see and target

What about their allies

Do any other classes have new bullshit mechanics like this?

#

Also can someone explain whether it is possible to dodge the shots from a DH when they go into the air because I tried running away but the range on it seems huge

hard hound
full quiver
#

Lol hunter sucks so much right now

cinder thorn
fathom aspen
#

Marks is unplayable right now lol

cinder thorn
#

Plus in BGs in a death ball it's just ez mode target and mash buttons from safety

full quiver
#

Are you on beta??

cinder thorn
#

No

full quiver
#

They suck in prepatch lol

cinder thorn
#

So do we

full quiver
#

Yeah

#

If you're getting one shot in a bg ot doesn't really mean anything

#

If you're dying to a hunter in arena probably doing something wrong lol

fathom aspen
#

Hunters will always be annoying in BGs kinda by design

#

Also talking about potentially large ilvl differences

craggy socket
#

Legit everyone has an MS whats the point

elfin surge
#

its dumb

sage raptor
#

Frost mage almost had an MS lol

elfin surge
sharp meteor
#

felguard has an aoe ms with no cd that's as potent as warr ms

#

there's a fucking pet with a better mortal strike

frank knoll
#

I still think Mages are more delusional than DHs

sharp meteor
#

(it also lasts longer)

frank knoll
elfin surge
sage raptor
sage raptor
sage raptor
rare ibex
#

@elfin surge are you running venthyr on that fury build? Do you feel as though vicious contempt conflicts a bit with condemn/execute?

full quiver
#

Mud show face

rare ibex
#

woah necro.. amazing

full quiver
#

Oh wait I have an old selfie from u

elfin surge
rare ibex
#

i havent played necro since s2

frank knoll
#

The only mage that I think is good is Cvark tbh

frank knoll
#

Because he’s been destroying people as an arcane mage for a long time

rare ibex
#

Damn, I don't think I can stalk your conduit build on drustvar 😂

elfin surge
rare ibex
#

nope

#

I think they removed all of that extra code since it's useless in a a week

elfin surge
rare ibex
#

Assume it's helmir with obvious conduits?

elfin surge
#

Plague Deviser

elfin surge
#

but i never played it so cba

rare ibex
#

😂

#

Fair enough, you're wrecking as-is.

sharp meteor
#

the mastery into cleaves/pet specs was really good

#

cosmic you'd just body dks in opener through everything

rare ibex
#

I love how wowhead doesn't have a "Why you should play Arms Warrior in Dragonflight (and why you shouldn't)" article yet.

raw summit
#

(those are for pve)

rare ibex
#

Sure, but funny anyway

frank knoll
#

Those are PvE focused anyways

elfin surge
#

Fury prob A tier

#

Arms F tier

#

for 70 pvp

frank knoll
#

Fury can stack Dstance with war paint right

raw summit
#

ye

frank knoll
#

That automatically makes it pretty good then I think

graceful ginkgo
#

Fury seems good in beta, unfortunately.

#

Arms needs buffs

frank knoll
#

Does annihilator contribute to battle trance or no

elfin surge
#

battle trance changes tooltips when u play annihilator

#

its like 8 auto swings or something to trigger it

worn yoke
#

I had no idea. So annihilator builds will be pretty clearly the best for pvp I’m guessing?

elfin surge
#

anything could change tho

cunning granite
#

alguien habla español... ??

muted surge
#

No hablo español

cunning granite
marble bone
#

I hablo google translate

cunning granite
#

i am Fury Warrior... and dead only by one skill

muted surge
#

esquiva el lagarto picante

#

But 174k hit is kinda fun for pre patch

#

(If the first ss is pre patch)

hard hound
#

If he got 15 orbs stack it’s normal

frank knoll
copper hare
#

classic blizz garms

elfin surge
#

fixed the bug to break it the next patch

#

fuckin blizzard

copper hare
#

dont worry will probably be fixed in s3 or s4

rare ibex
#

I feel like I have a lot of downtime.

#

Feels more like Arms than Fury.

thorn herald
elfin surge
thorn herald
elfin surge
#

no lol

#

smf will never be good

#

give up

thorn herald
#

I don't care if it's good just viable

rare ibex
#

Yossarion a mage player anyway.

thorn herald
#

U wish

rare ibex
#

Mages love 1h

thorn herald
#

My warrior mog would leave u speechless

rare ibex
#

🏃‍♀️

thorn herald
#

Nah I'm just a og warrior when they used 1hers it was cool. Dual wielding 2hers is like blizz asked a 12 year old what sounds cool and they got that

rare ibex
#

I actually hate the mog for 2x 2h.. but.. what can you do

thorn herald
#

People who like tg like tauren because muh minotaur so epic!!!!11

thorn herald
thorn herald
elfin surge
raw summit
#

Pin it Mr SF @elfin surge

elfin surge
#

@knotty atlas

raw summit
#

Not again man

#

We'll never got one at this pace

knotty atlas
#

WHat

raw summit
#

Mwahi would put mud in the dirt, but could you pin the actual tree please?

raw summit
#

peepo would appreciate it very much

undone pumice
#

calling my build thrash

muted surge
#

@knotty atlas can you remove all the pins

undone pumice
#

true

muted surge
#

#pvp needs to be a pin-less place

undone pumice
#

not true

#

i hope you stub your toe

muted surge
#

I hope you never find a good build :<

knotty atlas
raw summit
#

Edit ur pin @undone pumice add imgur link to tree or some shit

#

Pog

knotty atlas
#

Now make a Prot one.

undone pumice
#

u expect me

#

to update this shit for prepatch

muted surge
#

Noooo mwahi, you ruining the place :(

undone pumice
#

for less than aweek?

raw summit
#

Mud ur the SF

undone pumice
#

@steep inlet post ur prot build i hear is good

raw summit
#

Make a prot build

elfin surge
undone pumice
#

he is the single fart

elfin surge
#

mods hate pvpers after what happened

raw summit
#

Pretend you are

elfin surge
#

we cannot be trusted

raw summit
#

Maybe itll randomly yellow you

muted surge
#

Mud is too toxic to be sf ratJAMMIN

raw summit
#

Copium

elfin surge
#

💀💀💀

undone pumice
#

i am very untoxic and rational being me stormforged

raw summit
elfin surge
#

too bad ur 1300

raw summit
#

Do you hear yourself

rare ibex
#

Came here for pin-less chat. Was disappointed.

undone pumice
#

gungaginga

raw summit
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Brother i couldnt see my character over this guys /y GUNGAGINGAGUNGAGINGA macro

undone pumice
raw summit
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On raging blow too

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Unplayable

undone pumice
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ragingblow gungaginga macro bis

raw summit
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It's the like the guano glaive

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It's disgusting

elfin surge
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@knotty atlas we need a sf

knotty atlas
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No you don't.

undone pumice
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we need a sf or you are our sf

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or we keep being a lawless land and return to bench checks

muted surge
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We don’t need a sf

raw summit
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Mawhi for SF

muted surge
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Especially not mud

raw summit
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Undefeated in duels

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Unbeaten in arena