5% damage is pretty hard to pass up
#pvp
thorn herald
how much armor do you have lol
i have 2291 or something
so its basically a decent amount
rare ibex
Yeah I'm at 2456
I think the play is removing a point from cruel strikes
% damage always worth more
thorn herald
man condemn feels so good lol
sharp meteor
throwback to sinful where it's just half condemn
spam charging across the map at people
sharp meteor
from death sentence to crushing blow spam do ho ho shadowlands was a wild ride
rare ibex
What build are you playing, @thorn herald ?
thorn herald
i am doing a similar one to you but with executioners precision
BcEAtml4yL3PsSlRlqnvTeVx4DASiERC5AJpUSSAAAAABRSSBJAEolkEgmEhEAEJAAAAAAAAAIJJA
i rotate csmash and when reck ends ill put up avatar
i flex shatter with wrecking depending on enemies
ive had wrecking throw hit warlocks for 20k to pop their s hields
i got a 20k MS that had to be fully stacked and crit on a monk
:^)
rare ibex
I actually just swapped to Executioners Precision a few matches ago
But I've had tanks and got gangbanged so haven't had a chance to really test it
thorn herald
lucid walrus
wew
god this really is like pulling teeth. i want warlord bc 20% crit from reck every 30-35 is insane but losing crit chance/dmg hurts
rotund hornet
is fury bad for pvp in dragonflight?
muted surge
What has lead you to that question?
graceful ginkgo
Did Charge get fixed?
muted surge
Charge was broken?
rotund hornet
What has lead you to that question?
im new and i read in the faq that fury is one of the worst pvp specs but dont know if that applies to dragonflight
muted surge
That didn’t even apply to 3/4th of shadowlands
sage raptor
im new and i read in the faq that fury is one of the worst pvp specs but dont kn...
They don't get updated often
muted surge
Fury is good
graceful ginkgo
Charge was broken?
Didnt you have any bugs with it yet?
muted surge
Nah
graceful ginkgo
Like, I charge someone that is moving and end up at the place the guy was before starting to move…instead of exactly at my target
Never had that in SL
I hope that isnt intended behavior
muted surge
We had that discussion already I think
If I recall it worked like that already
But I haven’t played in s2 and s3 so I can’t tell
graceful ginkgo
Really? Mhmm
muted surge
It’s the same on beta
tardy flame
Any word on whether rewards from solo shuffle will be fixed?
sage raptor
I wish I had the balls to leave solo shuffle. These healer matches take 40-forever to finish.
fuck this shit is so balls
tardy flame
Don't be that guy
Round 5, 4 wins 1 loss, someone leaves, no rating change... What a waste of time
crimson holly
Think it’s the same for exec charge. Sometimes, the spell is used when the target in on range to charge but you don’t move.
sage raptor
Don't be that guy
I wont
But holy fuck I hate solo shuffle with healers
I'll take my 20 minute games and my 3 wins like a champ. But I won't be happy.
graceful ginkgo
At 2k‘ish most dont last longer than second round of dps CDs 
sage raptor
For healers?
sage raptor
So what you're saying is
Even with healers, the games are short.
Unless I'm confused
graceful ginkgo
Even with healers, the games are short.
Exactly
graceful ginkgo
Most of the time, games dont feel too long for me
sage raptor
I'm not 1800 yet but these games drag on forever. I'd rather take a loss than play a 7 minute round but that's just me.
graceful ginkgo
Idk, I really like the game mode. That might skew my perception
steep inlet
Nah it will go faster if you up popo
It’s long for you because at 1800 people doesn’t focus same target and cross cc
muted surge
At like 1400 healers can’t press buttons so games are fast as well :)
sage raptor
It’s long for you because at 1800 people doesn’t focus same target and cross cc
That's true. It feels like I'm the only one who peels for my healer.
sage raptor
I'd like at least one dub tho
And then I'm good for the rest
I'm only asking for the bare minimum lol
You can all give me your tank queues. I'll gladly take them.
🥰
graceful ginkgo
Playing Arms without healer is annoying, for me at least
lean island
Fury ll play with thunderous road at lvl 70 or there is something better? I like the fact that roar provide leech
sage raptor
It gives leech now? Nice I missed that news.
muted surge
it does?
lean island
It gives leech now? Nice I missed that news.
Oh sorry I missread bloodborne talent xD
Damn
marble bone
Playing Arms without healer is annoying, for me at least
If you’re quick enough you can log out before the arena starts when you see its tanks and not healers
(While the popup that says 2/2 and 3/4 for instance is open)
Then you stay logged out for a minute or w/e it is, log back on and queue again 🙂
muted surge
is your friend
atlest yesterday you could just logout IN the arena as well
and not get a penality
graceful ginkgo
If you’re quick enough you can log out before the arena starts when you see its ...
Exactly what I an doing, got /logout keybound
marble bone
i am doing a similar one to you but with executioners precision
what legendary you use with this one? 🙂
graceful ginkgo
Oh? Am I mixing those up? Possibly
marble bone
no wait, those are the same
marble bone
exploiter and executioner is the same, they dont stack do they? o.o
cuz that would be crazy
graceful ginkgo
They wont, shouldnt
marble bone
probably enduring hten
graceful ginkgo
With the Exec talent just go Enduring, I guess
Exec talent only buffs MS by 12% per stack in PvP IIRC
marble bone
ye the legendary is 18%
lean island
we will take shockwave at lvl 70?
marble bone
guess in a comp iwth few stuns, so you storm bold the healer, and shockwave the kill target or something 🤷♂️
graceful ginkgo
do the 3 move speed gems stack btw? 3%, 5% and the one giving 13 speed rating per gem
marble bone
huh, just noticed that if I pick this the CD of Die by the Sword goes from 1.3min to 1.8min
fickle forge
If you’re quick enough you can log out before the arena starts when you see its ...
Pro gamer strategies
marble bone
for sure increased my winrate
muted surge
Did they bug our only surviability? :(
fickle forge
we will take shockwave at lvl 70?
Shockwave is garbage
fickle forge
100% hot garbage
muted surge
:(
marble bone
just play solo shuffle and hide the chat
steep inlet
solo shuffle at 2300+ start to be really disgusting
they ALL focus arms
because lack of ignore pains and defense
fuck this
muted surge
Just condemn faster
marble bone
Ye.. how is our survivability in DF compared to now? Really noticing the lack of ignore pain
marble bone
Nice 🫥
The cd is just too long on impending, sure its a nice little heal, but you’re dead seconds later
lean island
Shockwave is garbage
No lol is good
muted surge
But you give up the spear node
marble bone
Ye gj stunning them for a global 🙂
lean island
But you give up the spear node
You can take avatar spear and shock
steep inlet
Shockwave succ
lean island
Also DH stun is 5 sec
Chaos nova is 5 sec?
fickle forge
Indeedo
I believe 6 on ST with PvP talent
But like Shockwave is gonna buy you 1 global dude
muted surge
and a better area
fickle forge
And you DR everyone
lean island
I believe 6 on ST with PvP talent
Isolated pray?
Is 2 baseline, 4 with talents if u only stun 1
fickle forge
What
I promise you it don't work like that
Next you'll tell me monk sweep is also 2 sec?
lean island
Next you'll tell me monk sweep is also 2 sec?
No is 3, but chaos nova is 2
fickle forge
Are you throwing darts and then writting the results here?
craggy socket
DH gonna be a monster LOL
muted surge
I heard the Tauren stun is 8 seconds
raw summit
Are you throwing darts and then writting the results here?
Fear lasts tripple 8
muted surge
But I can’t link the source
marble bone
Source: trust me bro
fickle forge
Fear lasts tripple 8
Crited my fear bro, he's gone for 15 seconds
lean island
Wtf why you trolling Me?
lean island
I just said chaos nova is 2 sec stun, according to wowhead
fickle forge
Why do you ask if Shockwave is the play at 70, and then try to say otherwise when told no?
fickle forge
I just said chaos nova is 2 sec stun, according to wowhead
And yah this is true for PvE, but the PvP mod is 2.5 multiplier
lucid walrus
it does say that tbf but i've never seen a 2sec nova in my life
mystic barn
arms warrior feels the best it’s been in years, it’s damage is absurd I’m so excited
lucid walrus
ahhh the multiplier will do it
muted surge
It’s 4 in pvp apparently
fickle forge
4 or 5, it's def higher than 2
muted surge
Atleast our shockwave has 15 sec less cd :)
marble bone
2x2.5 is 5
fickle forge
muted surge
No
lean burrow
lean island
4 or 5, it's def higher than 2
Oh understood, I’m sorry
copper hare
No is 3, but chaos nova is 2
Leg sweep is 5 in pvp
lean island
Leg sweep is 5 in pvp
lol, why shockwave dont have this multiplier? xD
muted surge
5 sec shockwave would be busted
But so is nova :<
Dh has no single target stun right?
copper hare
Ofc, fel Eruption, excactly like stormbolt, 4 sec 30 sec cd
marble bone
Whats the cd on the longer stuns though?
muted surge
1min for nova
lean island
yes and now with tree can have fel eruption and
the cd reduction of chaos nova
muted surge
45
marble bone
Oh really
lean island
40
copper hare
yes and now with tree can have fel eruption and
the cd reduction of chaos nova
You had that before already, idk what you're talking about
Oh CD Reduction, I don't even think you spec that on beta cuz you need fear sigil.
lean island
You had that before already, idk what you're talking about
in sl they had fel eruption and unleashed power (nova cd reduction) in same row
granite quarry
Hey guys is the elite set obtainable through solo shuffle?
crimson holly
For the prepatch you won’t get anything since the season is over. For df seasons it should be.
severe skiff
you can tech get the elite set by upgrading current gear to duelist which gives you the elite skin for that piece, the vendor sells gear with the DK and warrior models
spice hornet
Any helpful macros for learning arms
muted surge
/cast condemn /use Lions Pride
thorn herald
what legendary you use with this one? 🙂
Enduring blow
marble bone
/cast condemn /use Lions Pride
Dont forget /logout if you’re doing solo shuffle
muted surge
You lose 3 game? /logout
marble bone
Haha
Maybe even do a macro for intervene, could be a life saver
There are sooo many warriors that never use it 😬
elfin surge
You lose 3 game? /logout
i do /camp
sharp meteor
Yeah, camp still works to insta leave with no cr, match loss or even deserter.
Lovely for avoiding the pesky tank matchups.
marble bone
while the arena has started aswell?
Tanks deserve that every queue fails due to people logging out
sharp meteor
Yes.
muted surge
So only /afk gets punished ?
sharp meteor
It'll probably get fixed within the week, though.
As it's just a free abandon if you aren't winning.
muted surge
Meh
sharp meteor
So if everybody knew there wouldn't be any games ending, lel
muted surge
They had since start of solo shuffle
Never bothered to address it
And now a shit fix that doesn’t work
muted surge
But hey, atleast we can get a mount if we sub for 12 months
More about stressing about a functioning game
thorn herald
i do /camp
Probably worth it to /camp maldraxxus
thorn herald
Lol you found the enhancement post on the arena forums mud
sharp meteor
It was a wild ride.
muted surge
The one with 1.1k replies already?
sage raptor
Solo shuffle with healers suck
copper hare
how is normal solo shuffle still bugged, ahhhh
muted surge
how is normal solo shuffle still bugged, ahhhh
It’s not bugged
That’s how it’s intended :)
elfin surge
Lol you found the enhancement post on the arena forums mud
all i see is the cringe prot paladin
muted surge
Yes, intended
muted surge
The tooltip is wrong
sharp meteor
lean burrow
wait, intervene won't have 20% wall after shadowlands, right?
time to unbind intervene 
thorn herald
all i see is the cringe prot paladin
Which one
near delta
Oh God was this that enh shaman swole?
near delta
Queued with him a couple times on lfg and he's one of the biggest assholes I've seen on this game
thorn herald
Yeah he's got a big head
near delta
Like win 10 straight games and he flames super hard for a small misplay in a game he didn't do great in
thorn herald
You should see him wishing he was a warrior
And I quote "why can't enh be the warrior of turbo"
copper hare
So people are still leaving every solo shuffle game?
nothing has changed at all haha
sharp meteor
Yeah, just left one because it was a 4 minute round of everybody doing 1300 dps
healing these is like the lowest circle of hell
one of the dhs had trinket and dark bound into his blur
lean burrow
what's dark bound
copper hare
darkness
sharp meteor
He had a macro that'd use blur, medallion and darkness.
lean burrow
oh, dark macroed with blur, lmao
sharp meteor
The last time I saw something like that was a FDK in Legion who had lichborne and AMS bound into pillar.
copper hare
60 min of queue/solo shuffle time, no rating. I think I've never played something more frustrating. That one guy was right, not playing pre patch is probably the best take right now
sharp meteor
Yeah, setup binds, fix UI and just chill.
carmine obsidian
Prot would have a sense in PvP ? Dont know if i want to main a War or an ench shaman
near delta
one of the dhs had trinket and dark bound into his blur
What the fuck lmfao
lean burrow
thank god blizz finally made focus cast keybind
cinder thorn
Prot would have a sense in PvP ? Dont know if i want to main a War or an ench ...
Play what you enjoy or you won't last
Try both until you have a good idea
rare ibex
Thinking about switching to Theotar or Draven for Solo Shuffles. Most of mine do not last for the 80 seconds it takes for Thrill Seeker to activate.. which makes Nadjia's top and bottom talent relatively useless. Anyone running venthyr and not Nadjia in SS?
rare ibex
Still on Nadjia, @lucid walrus ?
lucid walrus
haven’t tried any alternative
thorn herald
Thinking about switching to Theotar or Draven for Solo Shuffles. Most of mine d...
I don't remember what either of them do but I'm open to swapping
I remember draven being defensive
And an umbrella with theo
rare ibex
It's just that Thrill seeker takes 80 seconds to get going.. and then the haste has to expire for Fatal Flaw to work. So 90 seconds for that ability--- my rounds usually last under a minute.
And you lose all stacks between rounds.
rare ibex
Mine are always kicked I guess.
thorn herald
They think their clever when they slap it down in on their warlock partner or some shit so I'll blind them in it
earnest stone
pvp arms builds for dragonflight prepatch?
rare ibex
There's a bunch in the comments above.
Largely depends on your desired playstyle though.
earnest stone
my playstyle is the build that does the most dmg whats that?
to 1-2 targets in 2v2
rare ibex
Uhm, let me know when you find it 🙂
earnest stone
lol
rare ibex
I'm liking the condemn build I'm playing now, but might just be sick of spear after 4 seasons of it.
warm portal
Spear feels like shit to use when compared to blasting fat condemns
rare ibex
Yeah Nadja has the disorient on door tho
Theotar has door removing roots and snares, which is almost as good IMO.
hollow notch
Warrior dmg feels low in PVP now?
thorn herald
Warrior dmg feels low in PVP now?
arms damage is low outside of condemn and a fully stacked mortal strike
hollow notch
mortal strike only seems to hit for 7k on average tough
lean burrow
spear should be targeted aoe like intimidating shout
or is it called target-based aoe?
marble bone
Cant you @solemn lodge macro it?
Sorry for anyone called target lol
I know I had it on @.player before, was nice in m+
lean burrow
You can't
Maybe at the end of dragonlands blizz will make it targetable because aiming important skill like that is incredibly annoying
velvet grail
Anyone have a good BG fury build i can copy?
elfin surge
Cant you <@180080631093526528> macro it?
@solemn lodge u broken?
lean burrow
"kid named Target:"
muted surge
does @solemn lodge not work?
earnest stone
anyone got an arms bladestorm build for 2v2?
muted surge
maybe you should ask @cedar rover to fix it
muted surge
well, play with a heal
lucid walrus
i mean without IP
earnest stone
believe in the me that believes in you
lucid walrus
double dps arms goofy
lucid walrus
ya
rare ibex
Well, I always sucked at it.
lucid walrus
unless you were smurfing 1300 in mop or somethin
marble bone
Just kill before you’re killed
thorn herald
double dps always sucked for war no?
i used to do war mage 2s in mop
we did pretty well
muted surge
wasnt mop the time
thorn herald
mop frost with warbanner was dumb
thorn herald
you didnt one tap
but during csmash slam hit unbelievably hard
and pre nerf avatar was probably the dumbest cooldown of all time
rare ibex
@near cobalt I haven't gotten any mogs and I'm 1600 in solo queue. I think its off-season. That or I'm bugged.
gentle horizon
start priority of fury pvp?
raw summit
vers>haste>mast>crit imo
gentle horizon
any talent build for condemn fury? and conduits?
rotund hornet
fury or arms for pvp?
nimble jasper
ancient sonnet
You could still get the mog with solo q right?
No, the only way to get the mog is to upgrade items to Rank 8 (Duelist)
rare ibex
Missed opportunity for blizz in my opinion. Add some additional good will toward solo shuffle during all time low participation. Oh well.
steel badge
Anyone have an Arms BG build they're willing to share? New to warrior
just trying to practice a gear in some casual bg
rare ibex
You can scroll up and see mine for Solo Shuffle. Dead easy, just press condemn and try to stay alive.
steel badge
It'll work for bg as well ?
rare ibex
Sure. No difference there. I can't claim it's the best... as I'm not a great PVPer.
rare ibex
My take.. warrior is better in prepatch than in all of SL for BGs. More self-sustain.
But still bad, yes.
rotund hornet
fury or arms for pvp?
can someone answer im new
raw summit
build arent really established yet and neither are the classes
just a bunch of trial and error
muted surge
can someone answer im new
fury
lucid walrus
stalwart and valor in victory are bugged as fuck
or at least the tooltip for stalwart is
glad vortex
can anyone help me with a good pvp build for fury and the rotation behind it
bc i cant seem to get it down
graceful ginkgo
Someone quote the Oneshot macro
hard hound
No more ignore pain
muted surge
/logout
sharp meteor
fake news
spice hornet
Someone quote the Oneshot macro
can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty
muted surge
Considering it’s the only build, you are correct
copper hare
or at least the tooltip for stalwart is
All conduits are exactly the same as in SL, it's just display bugs
so yeah, pick stalwart conduit and ditch talent
muted surge
As a human, do you still pick a trinket against certain comps?
lean island
someone have prot build for arena lol? cba waiting 10+ min for play as fury
copper hare
how is that even possible to have green geared people at 2.4 mmr in solo shuffle
is it already that dead
muted surge
Bcs new players start with like 2k mmr
cinder thorn
U gonna say this and not follow up
He did, he said its arms, enough said
😛
I'm still playing with both specs, they're both good to be honest, won't show properly till we hit 70 though no matter what people say now
copper hare
win 6 games and get no rating, how is that possible
muted surge
I'm still playing with both specs, they're both good to be honest, won't show pr...
We already hit 70 tho
And aff is still the winner :)
merry valley
What you guys think will be best for fury at 70? rb or anni?
thorn herald
I'm still playing with both specs, they're both good to be honest, won't show pr...
Idk I played beta and arms is still lackluster
spice hornet
win 6 games and get no rating, how is that possible
sharp meteor
win 6 games and get no rating, how is that possible
Bro my 1400 cr shitpick fox alt got thrown into a game with people who were 2200
i go 5-1 and get like 20 points
main crescent
the amount of leavers is becoming pretty frustrating. Like 50% of games tonight.
sharp meteor
the amount of leavers is becoming pretty frustrating. Like 50% of games tonight.
LMAO legit like 7 shuffles in a row for me at around 4-5
I'm just chilling and setting up alts now
copper hare
yeah seems like still no punishment as announced
main crescent
ive lost out on like 10% mount progress tonight, feelsbad
full quiver
I mean mount doesn't go away right
So doesn't really matter unless that's all you care about
copper hare
Leavers still not losing rating, why? They specially announced that for this reset no?
main crescent
tbh im just scared blizz are going to change their mind and make rss not count for mount
inner chasm
counts for gear upgrade starting this reset tho, could get some rival 2 gear pretty easy
idk how the rate is gonna be in dragonflight S1 but i went from 0 to 1900 pretty smoothly
thorn herald
Had a string of unlucky tank games that shot me down lol
Sucks when you're 3k hp less than anyone else so you get dogged on
wanton siren
Lads, I did a solo with my season 3 war. What did they do to our dmg lmao
full quiver
Arms f tier play ur dh
wanton siren
Fury ofc
inner chasm
once i got 295+ I saw huge damage improve as fury
wanton siren
:p
wanton siren
Bruh I pop reck, necro, spear, ravager on 3 people NUFFIN
277ilvl
Im selecting friends for DF :p
inner chasm
recklessness + spear + avatar + odyns fury and i pretty much OS someone if they don't react quickly enough
copper hare
I've never got so many hate whispers and death threats before in this game while queueing some shuffles as a tank
holy shit haha
wanton siren
People are taking this prepatch thing way too seriously
1.6 guy leaves after losing 1 round... come on
wanton siren
Tru
copper hare
they should change it so tanks only queue into tanks
3 tanks vs 3 tanks, that would be something else lol
inner chasm
no idea why they introduced the rated version of solo queue during pre patch tbh
wanton siren
recklessness + spear + avatar + odyns fury and i pretty much OS someone if they ...
Could I bother you to link me your build? I had a bit of trouble choosing between certain talents
inner chasm
BgEAtml4yL3PsSlRlqnvTeVx4HAAAAAAAAAAAhkAJARUkmIB0ISQCARSCRSSSgQSkEapFARSAAAA
wanton siren
Thanks
copper hare
no idea why they introduced the rated version of solo queue during pre patch tbh
I think that was necessary, imagine we had to deal with that shit s1 DF without fixes
wanton siren
They would have nothing for the first 20 days of prepatch is why
inner chasm
could have been better tested and introduced in s1 idk
vital smelt
Alright so
inner chasm
They would have nothing for the first 20 days of prepatch is why
thats the reason
wanton siren
No dragon no invasion, but they stop my pvp season at 10pm so I can't finish my set 🛌
vital smelt
Buddy can play a lot but is out of practice
What are our 2s and 3s comps looking like
As someone who hasn't pvped seriously since TBC/Wotlk
copper hare
could have been better tested and introduced in s1 idk <:bedge:88232384884496386...
you really think blizz tests their own pvp stuff?
hahahaha
wanton siren
What are our 2s and 3s comps looking like
Can't go wrong with arms+ healer
vital smelt
TSG is a given in 3s since he likes DK, but any recommendations for him for double DPS in 2s?
wanton siren
Ret
vital smelt
Yeah that's the other thing he's considering
lucid walrus
they should change it so tanks only queue into tanks
if prot pals can only queue into other prot pals idk why this isn't a thing
lucid walrus
yes
it was for unrated shuffle anyway i think(?)
i don't mean like, 3v3 all prot pal ofc
copper hare
Oh holy shit, I was kinda confused why I have never seen him
thats even more fucked up for blizz lol
vital smelt
I know this is the warr discord but I've heard ret looks weird in DF for PvP
copper hare
i don't mean like, 3v3 all prot pal ofc
Yeah I get it obviously 2 dps 1 prot pal
vital smelt
Tons of consecration talents
lucid walrus
mhm, just thought i'd clarify lmao
copper hare
nah that's good to know ty
vital smelt
Anyone have beta experience playing with ret pallies rather than live?
sharp meteor
is that actually a thing?
Yes, paladin tanks can only queue into each other.
wanton siren
I know this is the warr discord but I've heard ret looks weird in DF for PvP
I made a build that's just the best of Shadowlands on my ret, pretty basic no consecration bs. But I make my own builds so idk if it's good xD
copper hare
40% hp buff aint good for something like ret in DF
wanton siren
Could you clarify
copper hare
wanton siren
I still haven't chosen my main plater 😔
lucid walrus
that's so insane for dk and lock
copper hare
yeah and sucks for heavy burst classes without ms
copper hare
double warlock first season, oh boy
fallen bridge
They don’t understand the whole small steps thing
It’s like my kid putting ketchup on his plate for his nuggets
wanton siren
25 % nerf on enh im sure the class won't die kek
fallen bridge
You’d think after 18 years or whatever
copper hare
It’s like my kid putting ketchup on his plate for his nuggets
HAHAHA
thats literally me
hahaha
fallen bridge
Stoopz said everything would be cool and amazing with solo que, stop lying
main crescent
society solo queue would work without the people
sharp meteor
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-on-40-increase-in-player-health-creature-d...
already leveling a wizard
fallen bridge
We can only hope for such a utopian world, I mean game system
near delta
sharp meteor
Played some 2s today and condemn arms felt the best
ya armor is good again
warr in shambles
take infinite dam
copper hare
I can't even put it in words how happy I am that I can just start playing my alt in DF without having to farm 150k of honor
lucid walrus
if there's multiple of any combination of dh, lock, or shaman then you just autolose some shuffles
sharp meteor
I can't even put it in words how happy I am that I can just start playing my alt...
alts back on the menu yep feels gud
elfin surge
I CONDEMN U TO DEATH
sharp meteor
big red bonk
elfin surge
BcEAtml4yL3PsSlRlqnvTeVx4DAJJSSkQIpUSSAAAAABRSCkAERjSSSAaSEEAEJAAAAAAAAAIJJA
condemn build
agile forge
yesiir, thank u
full quiver
Thanks for ur dog shit build @elfin surge
elfin surge
Thanks for ur dog shit build <@269709440146604032>
fk u
copper hare
and first leave is 30 min punishment
wheat crane
feel like teh system is just shit for healers
copper hare
Just tested on my druid LOL
sharp meteor
feel like teh system is just shit for healers
i mean shuffle makes you realize why most dps don't have healer friends
i wanna throw most of these people into a volcano
copper hare
Dm me when u want coaching for ur new man DK
is dk fun though?
sharp meteor
i got paired with the literal highest ranked rdruid in na
and we couldn't carry this one ret
wheat crane
i got paired with the literal highest ranked rdruid in na
thats what im sayin
sharp meteor
who just got bodiedin the opener through everythingt
full quiver
Udhk is fun af with abomb and garg and magus
sharp meteor
male belf on one of those servers
full quiver
I haven't played too much because of how buggy everything is
wheat crane
like its just healer vs healer for the most part since dps rotate
sharp meteor
jsut died through vene disarm rally swiftmend cen ward
god couldn't save that male belf ret
copper hare
played dk in bfa last time, but I'm thinking about a third or fourth pvp alt
full quiver
Was gonna spam shuffles thid week but looks like leaver penalty has done nothing lol
copper hare
-100 rating + 30 min deserter first leave
full quiver
Def a good alt
wheat crane
90% of your dmg as a dk is abom and pets
copper hare
I think /camp also doesnt work anymore
wheat crane
literally nothign else you press matters
full quiver
Lol wtf
copper hare
dh back to bfa tier in prepatch
thankfully dh and guardian wont do that as soon as DF hits since it's only possible with legendaries rn
guardian does like 3k dps without venthyr/legendary xd
and 30k with both lol
elfin surge
holy cringe war is awful rn
sharp meteor
playing into warr now feels like playing into warr in s3-4 2s as outlaw
where u just toy around with them like they have the slightest chance of winning
lucid walrus
would be nice if the other 5 people who had to deal with a leaver got [x] amount of time for queue priority
hallow lance
Yoo, anyone got some nice build to fury or arms? Id apreciate it
rare ibex
The best is winning 6 games and getting no rating.. then queuing into tanks with 2 warlocks and going 1-5 and losing 150 rating.
Would love to know peoples secret to winning against casters with 125k hps lol.
sharp meteor
I think that I went 5-1 on my rat alt earlier and lost 40 points
at 1500 cr in a game where people are 1700-2100
just not worth thinking about
near delta
I'm not even touching pvp until df launches. CBA to get through this lol
thorn herald
Hey that's my spec get outta here
lucid walrus
actually kinda wondered if dropping critical thinking in favor of 2h spec was worth
can't think of any reason it wouldn't be
thorn herald
actually kinda wondered if dropping critical thinking in favor of 2h spec was wo...
its not going to do anything massive lol
its 5%
lucid walrus
def not
thorn herald
man
fury is way better than arms lol
swapped back to it and its a lot easier to pressure people
rotund badge
condemn gamers what leggo are you using
lucid walrus
still enduring
past jolt
sage raptor
dk is about as fun to play as a stroke atm
skill issue
viral jasper
When you. Guys say MS or like this class has no MS. What do you mean, you mean main stat? Mastery?
elfin surge
Armor values now
Armor values full gear at 70
Im hoping thats why war feels bad
Massive 
muted surge
I mean, with condemn and some gear war feels okay rn
But without condemn it’s just pain
Btw the HP changes
elfin surge
Lol yeah dh dot ticks higher than condemn
spice hornet
@elfin surge good morning
cinder thorn
I've never got so many hate whispers and death threats before in this game while...
Hahaha made me laugh in a cafe 😂
vapid ruin
Any pvp builds ?
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> good morning
yo
foggy idol
so is the consensus that arms is the only way to go?
marble bone
Any pvp builds ?
Take a scroll through the discord here, there are some posted 🙂
foggy idol
wanted to play my warr a bit but he is fury. I see conversation is about arms mostly
foggy idol
Take a scroll through the discord here, there are some posted 🙂
is it possible to pin any prepatch builds for arms/fury? there is only 9.2 stuff in the pins
vapid ruin
Take a scroll through the discord here, there are some posted 🙂
All i see is arms cringedem 1 button builds
muted surge
so is the consensus that arms is the only way to go?
The consensus is that the active people like arms more
Fury overall is better rn
muted surge
With condemn, sometimes
foggy idol
is it possible to pin a fury build/cov setup?
feel like my fury is doing a lot less than it did on s4.. probably something to do with my setup
raw summit
Because you lost tier
muted surge
You lost set bonus
raw summit
Rampage procing reck not rb is a lot worse
muted surge
is it possible to pin a fury build/cov setup?
#pvp is unmoderated
raw summit
@muted surge Post bench
undone pumice
bench check
muted surge
30
undone pumice
30 what
muted surge
??
undone pumice
30 gnomes?
muted surge
Yes
raw summit
Jigachad
marble bone
All i see is arms cringedem 1 button builds
Thats because thats the only build that actually does dmg 🤷♂️
foggy idol
saw an arms earlier that pretty much only pressed condemn 😄 with the occasional MS
muted surge
There are no other buttons anyway :(
marble bone
You guys got other binds than condemn?!
muted surge
My keybinds are: 1 ms 2 charge 3 condemn 4 logout
raw summit
5 leap
marble bone
Also /lol macroed to condemn
wanton siren
condemn is not in the tree right? using cov ability?
raw summit
yes
wanton siren
so what comes after XD
raw summit
despair
thick echo
Guys, is still possible to get Eternal Gladiator sets? Appereance
muted surge
Well we should do bit more damage because less armor
And condemn is mostly good bcs armor pen
wanton siren
Guys, is still possible to get Eternal Gladiator sets? Appereance
only the vendor stuff if you can upgrade it to 2.1
main crescent
just wanted to play a game over lunch
every game a leaver
just ban anyone who leaves at this point, zero sympathy
pseudo compass
Guys, is still possible to get Eternal Gladiator sets? Appereance
yeah, can even get elite appearance still
from conq upgrades
elfin surge
<#897055819475091456> is unmoderated
<@&257983573498265600>
muted surge
Mud 4 mod?
muted surge
We need an archi for pvp
knotty atlas
full quiver
Mud4mod
knotty atlas
Idk who that is.
wheat crane
Mudmod
knotty atlas
I think it's easier if i just picked up PvP, got rank 1 in a week and be a mod here?
Cause you know..PvP is easy.
Right?
graceful ginkgo
Why is this channel unmoderated, tho? All other class pvp channels are
cosmic yarrow
Ngl fury kinda busted on beta
hard hound
Mud mod plz
scarlet barn
Why is this channel unmoderated, tho? All other class pvp channels are
Because things happened
Purge happened
And nobody cares about this channel anymore
muted surge
If it’s moderated we can’t have pvp here
marble bone
cinder thorn
If it’s moderated we can’t have pvp here
Exactly
Warriors need space to rage to each other freely
Moderation would be a nerf
If anyone goes out of line they just get stomped by the other warriors so nobody dares to
muted surge
Pinned messages would be nice tho
hardy mortar
every game: who the F queues as tank (me as prot), ruining the game.
cinder thorn
Pinned messages would be nice tho
True
Mmm, I don't see why tanks should have faster queue times in arena
Maybe a couple of tanks and 4 healers per BG being prioritised OK but arena mmm
But then again what's wrong with encouraging people to tank in pvp
Tanking is great fun if they know what they're doing
As long as its not just a bad player playing with tank to just take longer to die
You want people who know how to play it in a pvp environment
marble bone
its more that we kinda really want a healer with us as warriors, so getting a tank that does zero offhealing sucks ass because you will die in about 5 seconds
hardy mortar
that makes sense Nox, hadn't thought of that. yeah, arms/fury feels quite brutal atm, which is why i went prot
at 70 i saw the armor values are SO much higher so it should just be a temporary issue
cinder thorn
Yes but that's the warrior class since beginning, warrior always needs healer
Especially tank
You can't have a tank that can also reliably heal otherwise they'll never die
So if you give warrior healing then they have to remove survivability in other ways which will make you weaker when there is a healer
elfin surge
Idk who that is.
knotty atlas
<:sadge:820202363359854633>
Hello Mud, nice to meet you.
And i'm sorry, my PvP knowledge is non-existant.
warped warren
Idk who that is.
youre not alone
hard hound
no
marble bone
oh shit a mod
warped warren
pins for prepatch 🥰
hard hound
look the date 19/05 no way its up to date
scarlet barn
They have not been up to date for some time
knotty atlas
Even not the guides?
marble bone
pins are overrated, use the search bar 🧠
hard hound
2021 xD
knotty atlas
Can i just remove them then? 🤔
elfin surge
who updates the #268491842637660160 @knotty atlas
scarlet barn
no one since Karg got booted
muted surge
Are you good at it mud
elfin surge
i got 12 warriors i hope so
scarlet barn
So he can have multiple R1
hard hound
you can't understand if you dont pvp
muted surge
i got 12 warriors i hope so
Maybe you get stuck in elo hell and create a new time
muted surge
Hoping that the next one is more successful
elfin surge
How else to claim 12 R1s?
Im reformed
warped warren
mud got 1 eternal glad tho?
warped warren
fickle forge
50 warriors or go home
warped warren
claims arms is good and fun
knotty atlas
I got 2.
full quiver
He's a rank 1 warrior he should get pvp mod since we don't have one and he's an active user
warped warren
fickle forge
He's a rank 1 warrior he should get pvp mod since we don't have one and he's an ...
Watch him ban @cedar mural first thing
full quiver
Kyle is an absolute beast sitting at 150lbs 5'7"
full quiver
Soaked in redbull
muted surge
He's a rank 1 warrior he should get pvp mod since we don't have one and he's an ...
Like everyone who streams seems to be r1
full quiver
Fighting off all the casters
Well who wants to watch someone who is a 2100 player lol
muted surge
Especially r1 from tbc doesn’t mean shit anyway
Tho idk when mud got r1
I support him anyway
full quiver
🤔🤔🤔
hard hound
Make ma man Dekel mod alongside Mud
i dont see dekel on this discord since long time
muted surge
#mud4mod
knotty atlas
muted surge
I still can’t tell if Dekel is actually good or not
elfin surge
My wars dont fit on login screen
muted surge
He just complains all the time
elfin surge
elfin surge
I still can’t tell if Dekel is actually good or not
hehe
elfin surge
yea
graceful quarry
he is one of the warriors ever
knotty atlas
Explain.
muted surge
Was mud the one who accused him of cheating?
full quiver
He's like a modern swifty
elfin surge
Was mud the one who accused him of cheating?
jellybeans did
muted surge
Who
full quiver
And muds just in his shadow as second best war
full quiver
🤣
elfin surge
is all
knotty atlas
No, i mean
warped warren
i do not like tanks
youre a tank queuer tho
knotty atlas
For multiple warriors.
warped warren
knotty atlas
Also..
muted surge
Maybe having more warriors means he’s better than Dekel
elfin surge
I always que as tank.
graceful quarry
tank? more like cringe
elfin surge
Maybe having more warriors means he’s better than Dekel
he reads this chat
he will filter search his name and read
btw
muted surge
Haha
graceful quarry
1 warrior = 1cr
full quiver
Dekel flies close to the sun because he's so good
graceful ginkgo
When ever i do my yearly 1 pvp match.
Perfect mod
thorn herald
Dekel flies close to the sun because he's so good
Careful Icarus
elfin surge
poggers
spice hornet
We ever gonna get a storm forged pvp rep
Don’t think any of the storm forged warriors even know what arena is
knotty atlas
Don’t think any of the storm forged warriors even know what arena is
Fight me. I'll wreck all of you in a duel.
knotty atlas
2v2 is the best and most competitive arena.
Tanks are needed in arenas.
spice hornet
knotty atlas
What else do i need to know.
knotty atlas
Sure just meet me in goldshire on moonguard
copper hare
healers are ruining the game
knotty atlas
Agreed.
I think we should remove all DPS specs from arenas.
Make it only a tank/healer battle.
elfin surge
Mwahi tryna start a fight
knotty atlas
I'll bet quiet, i'm sorry.
Unironically, i did enjoy 2v2 the most back in TBC.
😦
spice hornet
Wtfff
spice hornet
Auto attack mode
knotty atlas
That's where my PvP experience ends.
If i step into PvP now i don't even understand what the hell is going on so...
spice hornet
That’s why we need @knotty atlas as pvp stormforged rep
knotty atlas
I only like the "CTF" maps in BG's cause i'm a tank so i can just chill on the flag, or the point capturing ones.
copper hare
everytime I'll queue into a healer shuffle I will instantly write "Really, again a healer? Can't you queue something normal, you're ruining the game."
near delta
everytime I'll queue into a healer shuffle I will instantly write "Really, again...
Lmao
near delta
Rdruid? Why aren't you playing prot pally, loser?
elfin surge
copper hare
Lol, rdruid? are you too bad for guardian?
muted surge
What’s even the point of the stormforged
near delta
One time we do and he comes in and trolls <@269709440146604032> <:seramore:91766...
Tbf, that's perfect for the vibe of the channel
knotty atlas
when was the last time we had a stormforged in this chat
11/10/2021
spice hornet
LMAO
muted surge
I only see jakey from time to time
near delta
I was about to say haha
spice hornet
Should come here more. Missed some interesting specimens like @bruin
near delta
What class is he fotm these days?
knotty atlas
Same.
knotty atlas
I only see jakey from time to time
knotty atlas
knotty atlas
we are unmoderated
Social experiment. See what happens if things are left unmoderated.
elfin surge
pvp chat got purged then we were left unmoderated
knotty atlas
Jep.
spice hornet
99th percentiles on pve 
near delta
Social experiment. See what happens if things are left unmoderated.
Obviously the way to do it is be completely hands for a long time then burn the whole thing down with 0 warning destroying years of history
knotty atlas
How does one become stormforged?
You gotta win 5 duels against me.
elfin surge
You gotta win 5 duels against me.
fk
muted surge
Have fun against tank
spice hornet
If it’s not a 2v2 at 1500 rating with a viewer, mid can’t succeed
spice hornet
Mud
near delta
Mid thats brutal
agile forge
Mid warrior
elfin surge
dum
agile forge
spice hornet
Spoilers???????
hard hound
no
agile forge
Nah man
fickle forge
11/10/2021
Why don't ya'll just appoint someone?
Either that or have a Valk occasionally update pins
knotty atlas
We can update the pins, np. 🤷
With what tho is the question.
But i do agree, PvP does need a SF..
muted surge
Mud4Sf
fickle forge
Gottem
muted surge
Dekel4Sf
spice hornet
elfin surge
spice hornet
elfin surge
that ones a classic
full quiver
Mud is dum backwards