pvp

[mighty fractal]

Noticed that too

Either that or working as intended to get revenge on warriors being fotm all shadowlands lol

[hushed gazelle]

mark of honor isnt hard to get right?

was trying to get a mop pvp set

[fickle forge]

It's in the description though

[fickle forge]

Spam BGs

[hushed gazelle]

how is solo shuffle for it?

[hushed gazelle]

also prot is alot of fun in bgs

not really speced pvp, but still a blast

[past wren]

shattering not breaking ice block or bubble rn is painful

[hushed gazelle]

That seems like a bug

[past jolt]

It’s just bug you’re the one playing pre patch LOL

I vote u as more pitiful

[past wren]

who asked about all that though?

[past jolt]

Same number that asked for the shattering throw feedback

KEKW

[past wren]

LOL just looked at your msg history any time someone isn't playing classic you get pressed

stay tight man

[past jolt]

Well DF is good, but pre patch is stupid

Ye you too, chill out about them .0 bugs bro

Guinea pig

[past wren]

sent one msg

lmao

[soft canyon]

well someone is not in a good mood lmao

[fickle forge]

Regardless, it'll be fixed for sure

[muted surge]

It’s just the pre patch guys. It will all be fixed. For sure.

That’s why wotlk is superior

No bugs

Perfect game

[past wren]

[fickle forge]

[past jolt]

I play the beta for DF when I’m in the mood for that

I’m not gonna waste my time testing two systems that are not meant to go together aka slands and DF for literally nothing

[muted surge]

Yea. The pre patch is a joke

[lucid walrus]

no crying in baseball

[past jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-angry-punho-fechado-de-gif-26104429

https://tenor.com/view/angry-little-girl-annoyed-cute-gif-22673877

[warped egret]

Why Fury Warrior have such low damage?

[muted surge]

Bcs furries are not meant to be

[hushed gazelle]

Community is a little rough, but yeah

[steep inlet]

Wotlk arena is already a shitshow

With preg pal etc

[elfin thicket]

Anyone got a nice Pre-Patch Arms warrior build ?

[storm slate]

check pinned

[blazing maple]

Was working fine for me

[tardy flame]

Isn't working for me. Just spec'd out of it when it failed to break Ice Block and Divine Shield in a BG

[indigo barn]

How hard does wrecking throw hit into cocoon?

[fickle forge]

Hard

[muted surge]

like 500%

[indigo barn]

I mean does remove the shield with demolition instantly?

[fickle forge]

It used to, but demo got nerfed on dmg output, so you'll probably only almost destroy it

[wanton siren]

So I take it y'all aren't too happy with the prepatch?😅

[fickle forge]

Demo with wrecking is lowkey a good combination rn though

Especially since shatter bug is back and you can kill people

[prisma zodiac]

Is gavel good for PvP? I‘m prot player and having a dinar left to spend.

[fickle forge]

It is

[prisma zodiac]

It‘s all in the pins…man. Sorry for annoying question and thx for quick answer.

[raw summit]

Idk if a 285 gavel is worth anything

311 is

[onyx marlin]

has anybody having issues with charge working... weirdly? like, sometimes you charge and if the target is moving you finish where the target was and the target is in another place

or charge root not rooting, also happened to me xd

[muted surge]

Eh on Beta yes, but that’s more likely due 250ms. Didn’t have the issue on retail

[fickle forge]

Charge just places you where they were at the time of you pressing it, it doesn't trail them down

[onyx marlin]

weird, im having it, its like the root actually root when you get to the target, so you finish where the target was and the target is in another place rooted and you have to move to him xddd

before it rooted the moment you charged i think?

[muted surge]

Wait so target is rooted, you charge, and he’s somewhere else or what

[onyx marlin]

no, i charge to the target, the target is moving so i finish where he was before and the moment i get where he was, he gets rooted, but he already moved somewhere xD

sorry, dont know how to explain it, english is not my mother language

😂

[fickle forge]

You might just have latency then

[onyx marlin]

42ms

xD

[fickle forge]

Some movement abilities will continue until they finish, leaving you halfway there, but most of them will cause the target to drop down with the root

Can't say I've experienced it vs people walking

[onyx marlin]

i just tested on a boar in durotar, charge literally didnt even rooted it

lol

like, didnt even did dmg or anything, didnt even put me in combat, boar still alive

LOL

[muted surge]

Idk sounds like latency issue

[undone pumice]

weird champ that u can cancel leap with charge but not other way around

[fickle forge]

What

Does it even matter?

[undone pumice]

sorta but not really you can accidentally not get bounding speed if u charge before landing on leap

[cinder thorn]

How do you expect any pvp balancing without any testing?

[muted surge]

Bcs pre patch is scuffed af?

[cinder thorn]

Also remember actual expansions stats will be different because right now people still have the SL bullshit and covenants

So only meaningful stuff will be when people approach the new level cap and see balancing there if at all

[fickle forge]

One thing that'll matter a ton for warrior is reduced armor at max level

[robust hearth]

Is shattering throw bugged?

I swear I used it 5 times on pally with bubble and it didn't pop the bubble

[muted surge]

Yes it is

[robust hearth]

Pre-patch just play WW monk SEF+Strike of the Windlord= EZ 400k damage btw for pre-patch

[muted surge]

@fickle forge when are you pinning the shattering bug :(

[spice hornet]

good morning @elfin surge

[robust hearth]

[robust hearth]

[spice hornet]

u will earn good morning messages when u become a famous prot warr streamer

[elfin surge]

[robust hearth]

I did play prot war I just didn't stream

Is prot war busted atm?

[fickle forge]

Never, I was abusing the fuck out of it last time cause nobody else knew of it, and I intend to do it again 😎 👍

[muted surge]

What

[thick reef]

Remember that blizz has admitted that they expect to do heavy balance updates eve after release. So, expect months of jank

[fickle forge]

Ah you're not thinking of that bug then

Don't ask me for pins though, I haven't pinned here in a lifetime

[muted surge]

No, I mean just that shattering doesn’t work on pre patch

[fickle forge]

Well here's to hope Blizz fixes it eventually

But not the other one

👀

[muted surge]

🦬

[elfin surge]

[spice hornet]

This is why we need @elfin surge as stormforged

Should I ping a valk again

Need a PvP stormforged rep to maintain our pins/prot guides

[wheat jay]

Cuz you got dethroned

And no usurper could replace you and your Jester Afro

[fickle forge]

[elfin surge]

real

[wheat jay]

Usurper

[solar nymph]

Hello!

is there any arms build?

[spice hornet]

Have you gotten off that cooked ass wotlk arena yet @elfin surge

[full quiver]

Mud is DUM backwards

DO NOT PROMOTE HIM

[random plover]

Is there a pre-patch pvp build for Fury posted anywhere? All I find is for PvE.

[robust hearth]

MUD CAN PLAY BOTH

Fury in pre-patch KEKW

[lean burrow]

no experiments allowed

only guides that other people came up with

[elfin surge]

just 5s log

[spice hornet]

🤮

[elfin surge]

@random plover

@spice hornet only bracket i can play

others make me want to perma log off

[spice hornet]

Yeppp me and my friends think the same. 2s is so miserable without damp

[random plover]

Thanks, gonna give it a try. Been using a Anihilator build until now, it's pretty fun 😛

[spice hornet]

3s is just tsg and some ele/x/hpal

[fallen iron]

Are there any good fury warrior pvp builds for pre patch?

[random plover]

Look 5 lines above 😛

[copper hare]

10 min solo shuffle queue and I think everytime someone left so far after 2 rounds

if they dont increase the punishment this bracket will be ass for DF

[raw summit]

Ye you dont lose cr if u leave

[copper hare]

you can literally leave after losing the first 5 rounds and not lose anything, which braindead moron thought that was a good idea

make them lose 100 rating if they leave or afk, cant queue 1 hour the first time, if they do it twice 24 hours

[frail kiln]

3 times, federal prison.

[muted surge]

And if you do manage to finish a game you get 15 conq :)

[spice hornet]

Blizz never tunes conq/honor rewards for effort correctly

[elfin surge]

Crimson Soloist Who

[wheat crane]

How the fuck do i make the new ui smaller

The buttons are enormous

Also these talent trees are incredible

[raw summit]

click onthe bars in edit mode

[wheat crane]

So wise

Like a degenerate Buddha

[rare ibex]

Anyone running a good Arms build for Solo Shuffle?

[sly furnace]

Love ppl who keeps on leaving last game 😂

[copper hare]

I have played around 10 rated shuffles so far and finished 6 rounds only once. Fuck that

[sharp meteor]

No penalty for leaving so the dude eating shit just dips instead of taking the 0-6 and nobody gets anything.

[copper hare]

And it's gonna be even worse as soon as EVERYONE realizes they can just do that

I call a dead bracket in DF if they don't change that

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, obviously, but that's like the current state of WG where it just perma crashes.

Hoping somebody gets around to fix the blatantly broken thing eventually.

[copper hare]

maybe after they fixed some 14 year old bugs for wotlk they'll have time to look into the mini game of pvp

[muted surge]

i mean they did say something about it

after getting feedback from beta

[fickle forge]

Every single soloQ game out there: "If you leave we'll count it as a loss and you can't reQ for half an hour"
WoW: "We believe our players to be good bois 😇"

[sharp meteor]

I mean I doubt it was a design decision and just kind of how it ended up when they implemented ranked

rest of the patch was also a mess so they're probs scrambling to get the stuff working there

[copper hare]

I remember when I said "DF is so rushed" 1 month ago and someone answered "you don't know if it's rushed"

yeah here we go

[sharp meteor]

The UI update is pretty major. It is hilarious how shit like Landoo breaks, though.

Spaghetti mountain.

[rugged swan]

Good evening, anyone wanna show off his best talent trees for solo arena as fury warrior?

[ancient sonnet]

Majorly shit. I want my old UI back 🙂

[muted surge]

just wait for release, everythng is gonne be fixed

[sage summit]

Anyone have an arms PVP build?

[spice hornet]

Mud put one in here earlier if you search his posts

[muted surge]

the best fury build i could come up with

[sage summit]

ty

[copper hare]

https://gyazo.com/9d1860dc13ce78cfd91c7040860bbdcf

monkaS

[rugged swan]

thank you, i had something similar, but i had more of def cds, but maybe don't even need em as in solo arena, usually all ends on 1st def cds or after them 😄

definetely will try thx

[muted surge]

pretty sure you had somethng like that

[copper hare]

why would you NOT take fear, intervene and stormbolt in the "best fury build you came up with"?

[muted surge]

lost

[sharp meteor]

None of those deal damage. 🧠

[fickle forge]

Real fury brain moment

[brazen fjord]

just curious how this is a pvp build with no ccs lmao

just zug zuging it hoping someone else does it?

[muted surge]

you guys are all lost

[copper hare]

[thick reef]

with the pvp trinkets changes which class you think will be bis for pvp?

[sharp meteor]

Depends entirely on what's good, the meta, pacing, etc.

Really, though, for everything up to and including gladiator I don't think it'll really matter.

Human, Gnome, Nelf, Dwarf/DID, Orc, Goblin, Highmountain all looking nice, though.

[tulip bluff]

arms wet noodle

[keen zephyr]

how is arms looking so far? I feel like a wet noodle

[inner chasm]

feels terrible I hope it's tuned for 70 or something

[nimble jasper]

you guys actually have 311 gear?

[safe sedge]

someone can share 1 good build for arena 1v1 ?

[nimble jasper]

please dont say you’re like 20 ilvls below people then ask why you hit like a noodle

[nimble jasper]

arena isnt 1v1

[inner chasm]

295 and based on HP I'm not facing 311 all the time.

[nimble jasper]

thats not 1v1

[safe sedge]

mb

btw have any arena build ?

[nimble jasper]

literally were a few posted earlier

prob look at mud’s

[full quiver]

Hi guys and new builds for arms

What do I play for prepatch is arms good????

[tulip bluff]

im like 300 pvp geard biggest execute in bg 19k lel the fk man

[tribal wedge]

would be op (in SL s1)

[tulip bluff]

:D i mean if u spec condem it is higher but idk its not as same as the usual execute feel i hope it gets more fluent on 70

[thick reef]

any arms and fury builds for pvp

[cinder thorn]

Daboo

[copper hare]

every.single.fucking.shuffle.someone.is.leaving

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, as long as there's no cr loss it'll happen. 😵‍💫

unironically dodge your way up to whatever rating.

[wheat jay]

Imagine it worked like this

Easiest 2400

[copper hare]

it does currently. If you lose more than 3 rounds you can just leave and nothing happens

[sharp meteor]

It literally does.

If you're going negative just leave and eat the deserter.

Nobody gets any points if anybody leaves.

So every game is a 0 lmao

[wheat jay]

Ye but i meant Dragonflight s1

[muted surge]

Why do you think that’s gonna change for s1?

Either everyone will be 2,4 in solo or below 1k bcs no one can finish a match

I’m hyped

[wheat jay]

Cuz its retarded

[muted surge]

There were ready so many reports and forum posts about it

And then they did the blue post that they only give deserter

I really hope they change it, but it’s looking grim

[wheat jay]

Oh god

No way they let it go through xD

[copper hare]

average waiting time: 13 min. I now was in 14 solo shuffles and still only finished one solo shuffle in 2 days.

[muted surge]

Like they are aware of the feedback

But actively decided to not change it

Solo shuffle dead before it even started

And sadly it’s a really cool game mode

Would be a huge loss for thre pvp scene if they don’t fix it

[copper hare]

again, next leaver

hahahaha

im done, fuck that game

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, fine tuning UI and becoming more familiar with talents rather than losing hair over leavers in postseason shuffle.

[lucid walrus]

feel like shit just want her (old UI toggle) back

[wheat jay]

Y'all don't use elvui?

Wack

[lean burrow]

/camp and you get no deserter

[lucid walrus]

oldschool UI is just comforting idk

[wheat jay]

WAAAAAAACK

Please at least tell me you use weakauras

[sharp meteor]

I whipped up something back in like wotlk and have been using it since.

Addled brain can't handle anything else.

[wheat jay]

Smh duck

Gotta get some upgrades my dude

Y'all remind me of Kargish now

Man doesnt use addons except gladius and omnibar

Not even plates

[warped warren]

yeah thats good

[wheat jay]

Do you not use any either?

Jesus

[copper hare]

addon shaming pvpers

my eyes

[wheat jay]

If it looks anything like blizz ui, its gotta go

[lean burrow]

awc ui as default one day

[muted surge]

Gladius is ugly man

[wheat jay]

That would be nice

[wheat jay]

One addon I would never play arena without xD

There's also gladiusex and sarena

[muted surge]

Currently waiting for sarena update :/

[lucid walrus]

wtb kui update

[lucid walrus]

some

[wheat jay]

You're ahead of Kargish then

[sonic rapids]

Versatility > Crit > Haste or Versatility > Haste > Crit when it comes to Arms pvp

[frank knoll]

There days in to prepatch
Dragonflight is RUINED

[wheat jay]

Ye its about ui

Done

[frank knoll]

It’s about UI being weird and people leaving shuffle early w/o penalty. Something they’ll def fix. I just thought the title was funny

And he was complaining that some specs are overtuned in prepatch but who cares about that

[wheat jay]

Ye just clickbait title

Disgusting

[full quiver]

Not a big fan of supa

[sharp meteor]

luv wow

hate wow youtube stuff

[copper hare]

Nothing made me laugh more than supa randomly takin out the flute during a r1 game

love that guy

[wheat jay]

Supa saying he's got 0 compassion for rogue mage during awc

Chad

[frank knoll]

His boomkin stuff is fun to watch, I don’t like all the clickbait stuff though but hey man’s gotta make a buck

[copper hare]

everything from newspaper to the whole internet is full of clickbait and weird thumbnails, that's how it is these days

[obsidian loom]

fury feels like dogshit holy fuck

[nimble jasper]

wasnt supa a guardian druid abuser

/spit

[nimble jasper]

#thewayitshouldbe

now buff arms blizz

ty

[ebon sequoia]

Guys what the actual fuck, just doing some arena with my friend, went in prot, ruined everyone. Are they busted right now?

[obsidian loom]

lol if you think theyre going to buff arms

[near delta]

Probably they do hella damage in pve atm

[sick birch]

Hows warrior doing in PvP generall? Like Arms and Fury? and apperently proc is strong?

[copper hare]

"After an update we intend to make next week, players who leave a Rated Solo Shuffle match will now lose personal rating equivalent to losing all 6 rounds within a match, while the remaining players will not have a change in their rating."

Not enough, but a good start.

[full quiver]

@elfin surge could you please send me your prot tree for pvp

[full quiver]

That's a little troll

Because you could grief people by leaving

So they get no rating lol

[dry tusk]

I'm really sad at how bad arms feels rn

[copper hare]

yeah it's not enough. People people should still get rating n stuff

[sick birch]

Why?

[wheat jay]

I dont see a way in which you satisfy everyone and make the system 100% just

Simply because its not proper teams but randoms

[full quiver]

Also what happens if you dc

You lose a shit ton of rating lmao

[wheat jay]

Same as normal arena, you lose rating

[full quiver]

Yeah normal arena you don't lose 6 gamed worth

[wheat jay]

Its not equivalent to losing 100 rating in solo shuffle

Cuz its 6 shuffle games vs one rated game

[full quiver]

But it's like losing 6 games

[wheat jay]

Well, yes

[copper hare]

ofc you can, they can still give people their reward for the rounds they have won

[full quiver]

The reason that's not easy

Is what if this guy purposefully loses 2 games

Then leaves

And you only had him on your team

[wheat jay]

So you give free rating to one team, and 0 rating loss to the losing team?

[near delta]

I mean its the most popular class. It'll definitely get tuned.

[wheat jay]

Or even gain to the team losing due to leaver?

Assuming they won at least one game before the person left?

There would be SOOOOOO much wintrading xD

[copper hare]

Nah, people usually don't do that at a certain mmr/rating. 98% of leavers are entitled little snowflakes because they got oneshotted by a ww or because they have zero wins in 5 rounds

[wheat jay]

Reason they leave is irrelevant

If someone came in, you lost 2 rounds with lets say shit healer, then he leaves

It fucks you a bit if your good teammate disconnects cuz you dont gain anything

But it also protects you from trolls

[copper hare]

But honestly big penalties would probably enough to make it good in the long run. Like make them lose 100 rating everytime they leave. And make it like in other games. They leave once > 30 min, twice > 2 hours > they leave a third time 24 hours

[wheat jay]

Losing rating equal to 6 lost rounds is a big loss

That's a big ass penalty

Also, having a time penalty would suck for people that just disconnected

Meaning they get fucked

[copper hare]

Yeah but that's life. If you disconnect you also fucked 5 other people. 30 min is more than fair

if you disconnect more than once or twice a day you shouldn't even queue that kind of a bracket with your internet

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, people who DC multiple times a day trying to act like the victim when they're the terrorist.

[copper hare]

^

[nimble jasper]

i cant wait for low mmr wizards

[sharp meteor]

I'll play like 1000 3v3 games in a season and we'll have exactly 0 disconnects and maybe queue into one team who has somebody offline.

[nimble jasper]

to complain they get dogpiled in solo shuffle

[wheat jay]

Doesn't change the fact that you can't satisfy everyone with this system

[nimble jasper]

then get buffed

and harry potter meta

yet again

[sharp meteor]

People who repeatedly DC shouldn't ever be catered to. They can wail into the void about how their 5th dc that week is keeping them down just like the trillion people who lament about how matchmaking is rigged against them.

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, it could happen.

I think Lock and probs shadow good in shuffle

Mage is probably balls

[full quiver]

Make leavers bracket lol

[sharp meteor]

My healer already said he's afking rounds with mages at low-mid MMR

not worth the time or effort

probably doing the same

[copper hare]

who cares, just fuck the leavers and disconnecting people

[wheat jay]

Can't wait to see people crying here over losing x rating due to DC

[sharp meteor]

Who cares rating comes rating goes

Statistically if you don't DC then DCs should benefit you more often than not

[nimble jasper]

yeah idk

low rating mages

are useless

which i swear is why that class remains oppressive for so long

[sharp meteor]

It's like people get nsapped in half by pikaboo one game and it ruins the season for them

go next q up

[nimble jasper]

yeah i just say

go next

its not as bad as getting dinged by a ret in a dr warstomp

from 80% hp

[hushed gazelle]

Is DH a bad matchup?

For prot*

[raw summit]

🤮

[hushed gazelle]

Is...

That a yes?

[hushed gazelle]

Also yes I do love the 6 second stun

[raw summit]

its a ew playing tank in arena

[hushed gazelle]

Ah I don't play arena

[raw summit]

is the q for like bgs or what

[hushed gazelle]

I don't really play pvp either, but I've been having fun in bgs ye

[raw summit]

i wouldnt think about matchups in bgs

do your flag carrying and base defending and ur good

[hushed gazelle]

I mean, it still applies no?

At least the core of it

Like trying to interrupt the hunt or eye beam

[frank knoll]

He was queuing guardian/aff in 2s with Maldiva for the memes

[frank knoll]

I think frost mage is pretty idiot proof at low rating. Especially with all of the stuff they got

You probably don’t even have to poly

[nimble jasper]

you can cancel hunt midcast

unless changed

[robust shore]

has anyone noticed since the patch that spells dont activate until you release the keybind instead of on press? I cannot find any setting for it and this happens even without elvui enabled

[full quiver]

Why you holding shit down

[sly cliff]

Out of curiosity... anyone have a good prot warrior solo queue build? lol

[full barn]

yo anyone got a good import for PVP arms that isnt condenm

[royal marten]

is rend worth using?

[sharp meteor]

Probably.

[full quiver]

What is the best arms build for df

What comp should I play

[sharp meteor]

Dang, wrecking throw takes off a meaty chunk of a shield.

[quick tusk]

hi, can anyone link a good arms warrior pvp build please? 🙂

[lean burrow]

pls no rend meta

[sharp meteor]

Clap applying rend yum

[lean burrow]

thunderclap meta

^ (me rerolling into dk)

[sharp meteor]

I'm not sure why that'd be a problem.

[wheat crane]

Rather press rend then slam and burn 30 talent points to make it not ass

[craggy socket]

what yall playing arms or fury

[royal marten]

arms

always

[craggy socket]

warlocks are giga busted

i cant fucking believe conduits legendaries and fucking covenant abilties work

g fucking g blizzard

[distant heath]

Every class is good except for warrior

[craggy socket]

Wawrrior is fine

i cannot believe they leave this shadowlands trash turned on

fucking out of touch

[distant heath]

I am struggling on dps in solo shuffle. Everyone else is doubling, if not tripling my dps

Before the patch I was double everyones

[craggy socket]

What are you playing

[distant heath]

fURY

Fury

Are you in game right now

?

[craggy socket]

No I’m driving

I’ve only played a couple games as arms

Once I saw the shadowlands trash is still active I signed out

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, it's just learning talents and keybinding stuff.

Balance is all out of whack with leggos and covenant shenanigans.

[craggy socket]

It’s trash is what it is

Could have been great without conduits legos and covenants but per usual bLiZz drops the ball

Can’t think of any other xpac leaving borrowers power on in pre patch

Like any actual feed back is totally pale with all this turned on shifts gonna get nerfed bc of ahdowkands kewk

Like nothing can be tested further lmao 😂

[sharp meteor]

Bit of a trainwreck even by prepatch standards between the UI shitting itself, the trillion new talents then the SL stuff still being active.

Oh, well. Like I said good chance to bind stuff and learn new talents.

[craggy socket]

Can’t learn them

Things will not be like this

Oh you wanna play a new toon? Better be ready to fully shadowlands them out

And gear

What a joke

[low sparrow]

Is a pvp guide up for prepatch ?

[craggy socket]

Fucking warlocks too

Games a god damn joke right now its actually unplayable

[near delta]

Didnt azerite powers still work during sl prepatch

[craggy socket]

I dont think so

[near delta]

Yeah corruption was gone but azerite and essences worked

[craggy socket]

Ah

[soft canyon]

bro fury slaps charge -> recklessness -> rampage -> avatar -> rampage -> odyns fury -> rampage -> RB spam + bloodthirst if out + rampage + warbringer weaves

[distant heath]

Nah

Boutta switch back to rogue honestly

\

[soft canyon]

Rogue with universal gouge got me going

Also for arms, is anyone else's top DPS rend? And average slam hits as much as average MS

Honestly its kinda disgusting but correct me if im wrong, for arms I feel like its more worthwhile to spam WW with Fervor of Battle and the slam dmg increase instead of MS unless u got Sharpen Blade or MS debuff about to fall off

[lapis quarry]

anyone know were i can find a build

[sonic rapids]

BcEAtml4yL3PsSlRlqnvTeVx4DAJJSEJEJp1SSAAAAABRSCIQJk0QSAoJRQA4ARCAAAAAAAAgkEAA this is my arms one

[hybrid fractal]

leveling some alts right now and azerite powers still work.

[near delta]

Yeah but not in pvp after you hit level 51

[thick reef]

That's why you twink 5head

[fickle forge]

No

[solar breach]

hey guys i just wanna be lazy and ask, does anyone know if fury still king or is arms meta again for arena?

[sharp meteor]

we don't know what things will be like in df

and right now doesn't matter because it's pre-patch

[solar breach]

true

[full quiver]

Is arms a tier

[sharp meteor]

balance is all fucked rn because of stuff that we lose when we hit level 61

[woeful solstice]

yeah i wouldnt concern yourself with whats best rn

[vestal quail]

Am I being stupid or does second wind not work in BGs? I tested it on fury and arms and I started the BG with it then couldn’t get the buff to reappear

[sonic rapids]

are people running warbreaker arms for arena?

[sharp meteor]

Blunt Instruments looks kind of appealing as you can still sweep smash, right

Warbreaker looks like it's meant to be kind of the aoe pve pick between the two

[sonic rapids]

do you have a blunt instruments build?

[muted surge]

Just use blunt instead of wb

Nothing else changes

[sonic rapids]

BcEAtml4yL3PsSlRlqnvTeVx4DAJJSEJEJp1SSAAAAABRSCIQJk0QSAoJRQA4ARCAAAAAAAAgkEAA

think i'm missing anything from this build?

rn i'm running warbreaker and using slam as rage spender

[muted surge]

Any screenshot :/

[sonic rapids]

sorry was trying to send one but I was in an arena

[muted surge]

Personally I would put 1 point in a bs talent

[sonic rapids]

instead of test of might?

[muted surge]

Critical thinking

But ye for tom I don’t think you spend enough rage to be worth the point atm

But I don’t have gear on retail so not sure if you get enough value

If you play bnt I would suggest to use the higher bleed dmg talent

Bcs you try to maximise your cleave atm

But then again, I’m a 0 cr pleb :)

[sonic rapids]

so for blunt instruments you try to run through bleeds?

[muted surge]

I mean

Warbreaker you want to go for more aoe burst ye

For blunt you go more st

If you want to play bleed and tc, wb is probably better

[sonic rapids]

i'm only really running warbreaker rn for the play of TOM, but ye you are right its hard to get those stacks spending rage

especially with CC

[fickle forge]

Blunt and WB are essentially the same, just a bit more ST dmg

I still pick WB into cleaves

[sonic rapids]

so cleave as a rage spender mixed with mortal strike

[muted surge]

Ngl I don’t like Tom nor iftk

He means cleave as in enemy comp I think

Not cleave the talent

But probably better than using slam anyway

As slam sucks :<

[fickle forge]

Also thrash to waste a point in Cleave

[warm kiln]

Hi. I’ll throw a question here, maybe someone is willing to help a newbie to this class. Wanna main warrior class this expansion, mainly doing PvP. I have looked around about thoughts with Arms, the opinions are 50/50. For like a new player to the class in PvP its atleast decent for 2v2 under 2000 raiting ? Appreciate the effort to answer.

[muted surge]

All depends on the tuning over the next couple of weeks

[simple rock]

anyone else feel like a complete noob without bigdebuffs

my awareness is so bad haha

[sonic rapids]

wait hol up

[sonic rapids]

figured out something that might work with the warbreaker test of might build

[fickle forge]

Anything is decent under 2k

[sonic rapids]

is defensive stance good for arms pvp?

[fickle forge]

Optimal Dstance usage, is being in Dstance least amount of time possible

[spice hornet]

Good morning @elfin surge

[undone pumice]

optimal dstance usage is not even skilling it and not skilling intervene because they dont do damage

[spice hornet]

True warrior main right here ^

[elfin surge]

[spice hornet]

Based Muds response times, I suspect he is located in EST

[elfin surge]

CST

[mental pagoda]

fury or arms for pvp

[spice hornet]

prot

[frank knoll]

Man ww seems kind of tight, 3 different builds you can play and more survivability

[frank knoll]

@elfin surge is definitely an Ohio dude

[spice hornet]

He gives me Iowa vibes

[frank knoll]

Ohh bro I forgot about Iowa

Iowa is one of those states where 80% of the people have satellite internet

[spice hornet]

Is that due to all the tornados

[low sparrow]

How’s arms looking arena wise in df

[elfin surge]

Minnesota

[hushed plank]

Has anyone got there omnibar to remove the square bordering everything that it’s tracking ? Been looking like this since pre-patch went live

[high tapir]

anyone got an optimal build for pvp arms

[true hull]

thats not omni bar but Bigdebuffs

[hushed plank]

So Bigdebuffs is messing with omnibar now :(? Is the only way to get rid of that border is to remove big debuffs?

[muted surge]

Yes

It’s not updated yet

[hushed plank]

Ahh thanks guys :)! Hopefully gets fixed soon

[near delta]

Holy shit prot warr pumps rn

[green wyvern]

prot warr best warr spec

[thick reef]

Are we unironically using prot in pvp atm?

[muted surge]

No

I mean, yes

But no

[inner chasm]

someone has a talent for prot in pvp (arena)? tried it yesterday, was fun but not sure about talents

[left gulch]

anyone have prot warrior pvp talents like sookaz said need pump

[muted surge]

I hope everyone who plays tank in pvp gets banned

[left gulch]

its for rbgs

so you need a tank

anything else grumpy boi

[scarlet barn]

I hope everyone who plays tank in pvp gets banned

[muted surge]

War tank for rbg kek

It’s sadly just straight up worse than bear ;(

[undone pumice]

bear > dh >>>>>>> everything else

[muted surge]

And also, no tank in rbg would@also be better

As a war tank you can’t even def a flag

And you won’t get to the flag

[undone pumice]

zased

[left gulch]

It’s just fun i main bear tank but it’s still fun mess around

[elfin surge]

I hope everyone who plays tank in pvp gets banned

[warped warren]

i heard you play both prot pal and prot warrior @elfin surge is that true?

[wheat jay]

Y'all are getting banned

[undone pumice]

I hope everyone who plays tank in pvp gets banned

[full quiver]

R u trying to curb your addiction by getting banned

[sonic rapids]

I have one, I can send it to you when the server is back up

[sonic rapids]

Not the best, But you can work with it or make it better. It's been doing dmg so far

[hollow pond]

Hey , more of a general@pvp question. Do you guys know if horde/ally can queue together for normal battlegrounds in dragonflight? We tried last night with merc mode and couldn’t.

[thick reef]

No, rated only

[hollow pond]

Ty!

[copper hare]

shield bash into stormbolt into aftershock, people cant do shit

[full quiver]

Sus

[fallen iron]

Does shattering throw not pop pally bubble or break ice block anymore?

[steep inlet]

Bugged

[frank knoll]

I found a really good build

What you do is, you log out of your warr, then log on to your WW monk.

[copper hare]

Not gonna touch my ww until they fix that bug

literally so boring

cant believe people are enjoying that

[proven maple]

do non-prot specs feel undertuned? I feel like I can't do anywhere near the damage I was doing with more cds aand a covenant, and then dh/ww/lock are just blasting. Prot I think actually is doing the most damage right now...

[copper hare]

I mean war is dogshit, if you wanna do semi good dmg you have to play venthyr arms

but dh/ww/ele/enh/dk/feral/affli/destru are all pretty busted and immortal

It's actually mindblowing to me how every dps spec in this game can do 10k hps every game, blizzard went too far with the general trees

[past jolt]

Monk is the best

By a lot I think

Windwalker op

[proven maple]

if anyone has been queue'ng rated, it's pretty crazy, dps healing or even out healing dps while blasting 10k+ dps, and we're doing like 7k ish top end

there's so much balancing before an actual rated season, I hope gets done, or it's going to be a really bizarre S1 of Dragonlands. Here's hoping for some balance.

[graceful ginkgo]

Yes, WW is insanely overtuned, in damage but also in their kit

[sonic rapids]

Is there a venthyr arms pvp build? I have only heard it for PVE

[steep inlet]

https://i.gyazo.com/6e25c823a13664d1ce0c56d070dd4d29.png

who said arms doesnt do dmg anymore

[past jolt]

Well not many play pre patch bc they’re not crazy people

[proven maple]

I have had 250k from wrecking throw in long matches along with those executes and way behind the dh we're just falling behind to, this is over 2.1k

[copper hare]

lemme guess, that guy was 285 geared?

[proven maple]

and they're not dying

[steep inlet]

300

[proven maple]

total dps even with big hits during a match is still disgustingly tilted towards ww/monk/dk/lock right now, in a very unbalanced way, that's not even a big crit...

[copper hare]

I only see a 3 global window with necro, if you think that's an indicator for warrior doing good dmg compared to other classes

you're fried

[proven maple]

dk during pillar is doing 30k+ every other hit go watch flark right now, etc

I'm just hoping this sees some serious balancing or dragonlands is going to be hard out there for non-prot wars

in pvp

[steep inlet]

https://i.gyazo.com/abaefb5120be3e7a37eda1e773c9910b.png

and like this ?

arms does massive dmgs

dont know what some people smoke

[proven maple]

solo shuffle is a joke man, I win that shit and then go do 2.1k rated and get floor dragged

you are smoking go do more rated

honestly its like posting a random bg screenshot anyone who does a lot of pvp tops those

[steep inlet]

i'm just talking about dmgs

[proven maple]

without trying

[steep inlet]

dmgs are here

[proven maple]

you're not playing comptetitive it's not play a high ranked dk or dh , go queue it

you're fucking skull dragged

and 40k crit is nothing

[copper hare]

non necro arms hit for 60k executes last season, if you think that's huge damage now specially when arms does like 20-30% less damage than before the pre patch

then you're just coping

[steep inlet]

Lol

[proven maple]

someone post screenshots of their unranked random bgs for proof....

like bro

[steep inlet]

I can do the same in 3S

[proven maple]

you can't be that dense, queue rated 2s or 3s above say 1900 and then tell me how mcuh damage youdo

[steep inlet]

np

[frank knoll]

Trees are really well designed

[proven maple]

k, cuz I've been doing them for 3 days, and dk/dh/lock/ww are so far past you

[left gulch]

anyone here want to run turbo

[copper hare]

r1 people saying arms warrior is as bad as it can be and this guy comes in and says arms is BLASTING

I can't haha

[proven maple]

it's so bad playing unranked content and posting that for proof lulbro

I just topped a random silvershard

we're efine

[frank knoll]

They’ll fix warrior, people love warrior. Just gotta wait for Limit Maximus to make a video about it or something first

[raw summit]

[proven maple]

ideally a pvp community guy, max stays pretty strictly pve

it's a lot to balance with toolkits this big, really hoping it happens by the next rated season

[copper hare]

I checked the guys you played with. These guys arent even 295 in pvp gear, what are you even saying

[proven maple]

not to mention just play actual rated against actual guys playing hard, I had to play Palumor's RM team earlier at 2300 that's so different then what you're doing

[frank knoll]

Yeah that’s the point the weight of RTWF PvE guys opinion is way heavier to Devs than PvP spokespeople

[sonic rapids]

Do you feel like they probably won't try to balance the toolkit, overcompensate for warriors (making them do big dmg) and then deal with it later?

[proven maple]

not wrong, but man the breadth of abilities in people's toolkits right now is just broken without further investigation

[steep inlet]

Why the fuck do you think I’m beginning or some shit like this

Vikktus

[proven maple]

you're posting unranked content

and solo shuffle

stop

[steep inlet]

It change nothing

[proven maple]

I mean it does

[steep inlet]

I do same dmg in 3s

[proven maple]

good players blast and you can't keep up

if you think you're doing big dam that's a joke

[steep inlet]

Why u think I don’t know 3s

And good players

[spice hornet]

😂

[steep inlet]

Holy fuck

[proven maple]

I think you right now this season don't

by that I mean pre-patch

[copper hare]

Troma, you got outdpsed by a DK who has 299 pvp ilvl and was hardstuck on 1.4 in arenas

yeah arms is soooo good

[steep inlet]

DK does more dmg

[spice hornet]

[steep inlet]

But it doesn’t mean arms does nothing

[proven maple]

dk/dh/lock/ww

all crush in the current balance

[sonic rapids]

I didn't play all of shadowlands pvp season, where did warrior use to match up against those classes?

During shadowlands

[steep inlet]

S1 s2

[proven maple]

the matches over 2k I've won we've livelorded and found a cross-cc window with mindgames very deep into the match and still after winning we were being stomped in damage, at 7k dps through 5 minutes to their 11k

we do have a decent kit for living but for pure dps we're so far behind

if us being dampeners is the vision, that's gross and not enjoyable

and prot does potentially do more damage...

[steep inlet]

yeah I know prot is fine atm

[hard hound]

Prepatch doesn’t mean anything Waite for Df release before crying @proven maple

[proven maple]

it's a lot to be balanced if you take in what everyone is doing right now, I can't see it actually being possible to balance it all, I'll be hard impressed if it happens we have a balanced s1 of DL

[inner chasm]

Have a little talent build for fun arenas as prot @steep inlet ? 😄

[proven maple]

@sonic rapids we could beat all those classes s1/s2/s3, only really s4 was lock played right a hard L

pretty easy matchups prior to this

[sonic rapids]

Was this as fury or arms?

[proven maple]

both

I owed half my rating every season to dhs

[sonic rapids]

Dang, that is disappointing then considering where we are now

[proven maple]

if you're queue'ng you feel this

[frank knoll]

Blood DK beats warrior in dam rn

Lol

[proven maple]

yep

honestly no joke queue prot till we have dragonlands balancing imo

[sonic rapids]

I'm not queing at high ranks, only at 1300 currently, just started like last week and im new to pvp

[hard hound]

Tank are op during all prepatch in my memory

[sonic rapids]

but it feels weird when going against other dps classes and they melt while you chip away

[frank knoll]

Prot is actually fun, that’s shield charge thing

[sonic rapids]

Does anybody have a prot build for pvp? Kind of want to experiment with it

[past jolt]

Well, they are nice, but a little too strong

I mean I recommend everyone play a monk rn, the only thing that sucks is the need to take keefers bc of its placement and power

And it really feels bad

[frank knoll]

I like specs that have multiple different builds and WW fits the bill

There’s a SCK build, a sustain build and a Xuen Build

[past jolt]

And fae line stomp doesn’t count towards combo strikes which is terrible design

[frank knoll]

Pretty cool

[past jolt]

Ye

It’s an invariably goated tree with very clear premises unlike almost every other spec tree

Even warrior has unclear premises , though overall it’s good

[ruby sluice]

hey guys, can't find any guide to prot pvp

[past jolt]

Too many ideas scattered imo

[copper hare]

why would you play WW now while its bugged

literally so boring

people complain about tanks, then they play bugged ww

[steep inlet]

yep

[copper hare]

Yeah arms is broken guys, don't play it so they don't nerf us before DF hits the servers

[spice hornet]

Fucking kek

Need to make another one where Jesus says “fire mage is actually perfectly balanced and fair, it’s sub rogue that’s the problem” and post it in that rogue/mage discord

[inner chasm]

most versatile build for arms in 2s?

[solemn dock]

fellas, how do i make a macro to switch between dstance bstance?

i dont have space for 2 binds rly (I'm missing a lot of fingers)

[wheat jay]

Nah man Z tier again, stop spreading anti-warrior propaganda

[copper hare]

/cast [spec:1, nostance] Battle Stance; [spec:2, nostance] Berserker Stance; [spec:1, stance:1] Battle Stance; [spec:1, stance:2] Defensive Stance; [spec:2, stance:1] Berserker Stance; [spec:2, stance:2] Defensive Stance

works for both dps specs

[fickle forge]

The amount of agreement you'd get

[spice hornet]

hello I am on the arena in the wrath of the king and this macro didn’t work for me, need help plz n ty

[nimble jasper]

well sub is a problem

but fire too

[spice hornet]

Having 3 spells schools that can apply CC is just unreal to me

[wheat jay]

Lorewise it makes sense

[nimble jasper]

1600 mage dev

vs rsham dk

“i cant cast”

💀

[lucid walrus]

so sad this doesn't work anymore

pour one out for IP

[full quiver]

it definitely feels harder to get your damage off as a caster than a melee when you are first starting out

playing equally unskilled people lol

[spice hornet]

can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty

[full quiver]

lol

[hard hound]

we dont have ignore pain anymore

[full quiver]

FUCK

You're right!!!!

[sharp meteor]

rip bis macro

[thick reef]

what is our bis leggo as fury pvp?

Reckless?

[solemn dock]

-tysm

[copper hare]

Guys what's actually worse

SL season 4

or 4 weeks DF pre patch of this clown fiesta

[muted surge]

Honestly

S4

Or shadowlands in general

[rocky plinth]

do you guys talk here about wotlk pvp as well?

[muted surge]

Wotlk 🚯

Just get betrayer

Stack crit

And oneshot people

[rocky plinth]

so i assume you do

sometimes

[muted surge]

Honestly, idk. I think the most active people here don’t play wotlk. Might be wrong tho

[blissful delta]

any thoughts on skullsplitter on pvp ?

im having a blast stacking bleeds and oneshot with it

[amber harness]

hows that possible

that number shouldnt even be achievable in DF with 10 levels higher

and geared

[muted surge]

In df it’s like 400k :)

Just spell reflect. Easy kill

[rocky plinth]

could you give me an advice in terms of match up

there is one im losing all the time

never won vs them

playing arms+rdruid vs disci + rogue

[nimble jasper]

dk hpal?

oh

you dont win that

[rocky plinth]

i just assume its easier for them

to win

when you say you dont win that ;p

[nimble jasper]

rogue priest is a go next

if you have betrayer and rogue has bin gear

mayb

[rocky plinth]

problem is

i cant have uptime on priest

bcs rogue is slowing me down all the time

[muted surge]

You can go kill the rogue but

[rocky plinth]

and i dont have freedom since i play with dudu

ye

i want to kill rogue but

here is the case

[muted surge]

I would watch some streamer so you see how they play

[rocky plinth]

i tried doing it

in def stance

shield and revenge

spam

and it was working

[muted surge]

Trille and a hpal win against rogue priest at 2.2 somewhat consistent

[rocky plinth]

my question is do you know if its better to stay in battle and 2h him all the time or that revenge stuff

[muted surge]

2h from what I have seen

[rocky plinth]

by working i mean we didint lose totally

[muted surge]

You lose so much dmg

[nimble jasper]

better to ask in classic disc

[muted surge]

But I only know from war CJ I got streams, not playing that cancer myself

[rocky plinth]

i didint know there is a classic disc haha

my bad then

thanks for help anyway

[nimble jasper]

idk

rogue priest should dome you

esp since no hpal

[rocky plinth]

they are

but i dont wanna be that

guy who cries he s comp is bad

im ssure there is a way to win but its hard

[nimble jasper]

yes

[muted surge]

There’s a reason why rogue priest is good in like every expansion

Just outgear is prob the best bet

Or switch to hpal might help

[rocky plinth]

it would

but i wanna try with druid

its fun

no magic dispel and freedom hurts tho

nvm

[muted surge]

Ye but there’s a meta for a reason. So meta comps normally win

[nimble jasper]

even in bfa when disc ran out of juice in like 3mins

[rocky plinth]

but im not even close to rating

when meta matters that much

i bet you can win any comp if you r good at my rat

[nimble jasper]

top meme always has been distract healer when hes a bit far so pepegas slowmo turning causes them to drop combat

and get sapped

https://tenor.com/view/gotcha-bitch-bitch-stuck-stick-with-me-caught-gif-5671210

classic warrior boring imo

[muted surge]

It’s so much more fun tho

[nimble jasper]

wotlk bdk

in full arpen

🤤

[silk gale]

Hi do you have a build for the war furry on BG please ? I can't find one with the new talents

[blissful delta]

furry ? o_o

[silk gale]

I'm playing vulpera

I meant fury sorry 😦

[blissful delta]

[silk gale]

Kappa

[muted surge]

Atleast someone who accepted if

[sharp meteor]

🪓 🦊

[silk gale]

exactly

🪓 🦊 🪓

[marble bone]

if you're not playing vulpera fury warr, are you even playing?

[sharp meteor]

Fox buffed with trinket changes. 🥳

[nimble jasper]

nah gnome superior midget

[sharp meteor]

Better racial but their run is all silly and compact.

[nimble jasper]

have you seen

male orc run animation

looks like they frantically rushing to drop a #2

[wheat jay]

Male orc sprint is the best hands down

[nimble jasper]

and wont make it

[wheat jay]

Every other sprint is running away

Orc is on the chase

[nimble jasper]

ngl i hate

female human flail jump

but idk how people like old human model on classic

shit is so fking stiff

holy moly

[vale cape]

Hey guys, can you give me arms pvp talent export? And is Arms still viable for 3v3/2v2

[sonic rapids]

what i[v

what i've been using so far

[vale cape]

thank you and may i ask you your covenant aswell

[sonic rapids]

i am doing kyrian rn

for spear lockdown

and some sustain from pots

[craggy socket]

any pumper arms builds

[craggy socket]

Same its decent damage

hard to really dump rage at times....

It pumps tho

arms fun af

Great warlocks are OP again

this game actually blows donkey dick when locks are OP

[nimble jasper]

so

every season

idk what you mean “again”

[frank knoll]

I watched a video of Savix on Ret dueling a Destro lock for like 10 mins
He finally got the kill after he killed the sucubus and chewed through a billion absorb shields and healing

[blissful delta]

im trying out this rn

[scarlet barn]

But he also healed himself for a lot then

[sharp meteor]

Oh the poor ret took 10 minutes to kill a class that's meant to walk all over him

[thick steeple]

arms is dog rn

or am i missing something

[nimble jasper]

everyone is vs wws

[frank knoll]

Yeah he was using the pet to heal but was perma slowed in the process until it finally died

[scarlet barn]

Im talking about ret

[frank knoll]

@sharp meteor they were both good players, the lock did a good job kiting and stuff. And lock is one of the best 1v1 classes in the game, kinda rolls over everyone

[nimble jasper]

yeah

altho rogue lives rent free

in lock player heads

[frank knoll]

Yeah he was hitting the pet while in the he was getting kites to generate resource to use on WoG

[nimble jasper]

i had a lock cuss me out in dms in s3

after i intentionally put him in 20s of cc on pirate in 2s

[copper hare]

I think they just hotfixed rated solo shuffle, I get massive conquest now every game

[sharp meteor]

Oh, sick. I hope they do upgrades do so I can setup rat alts.

[nimble jasper]

yeah gotta bring my ratwalker out of retirement

need to exit s2 doming rdruids in opener

to doming s4 rdruids in opener

[little lava]

did they fix the honor gaining in solo shuffles?

cuz getting 600 from 6 wins sucks comparing to nearly 1,8k before

[copper hare]

You never got 1.8k. You got around 1.4 max with first daily win before and like 1-1.1k with the following

if you won 6

[little lava]

explain this

[copper hare]

Never got more than 1.4k almost queued daily for honor

was that with 50% honor buff if you queue with a certain faction

[little lava]

im horde

[copper hare]

ya, popped up as horde aswell sometimes

[little lava]

i swear i got many 1,8k and 1,6k

[copper hare]

I won 5 now and got 800 honor, 150 conquest. That's A LOT better than a couple hours ago

[sonic rapids]

When i was using slam to dump rage it was hard to get that TOM built up

[sonic rapids]

but now that I am using whirlwind to dump rage, with the talent giving whirlwind a slam on main target it feels way better and I am able to keep that 18% strength up easy

anyone recommend any classes to use my boost on? I like warrior playstyle (Brawler type), already have a DK, DH, lock, and hunter

this would be mostly for pvp

[little lava]

thats good to hear mate

[lean burrow]

outlaw rogue

[little lava]

hope we cant get 1k honor for 6 wins

can*

[sharp meteor]

Outlaw is hilariously fun and good.

[warped pasture]

would a warrior be troll to pair with an evoker in dragonflight? not sure how warrior + caster plays

for 3s arenas

[sharp meteor]

Kind of early to say.

[copper hare]

just got lightning bolted for 60k haha

[sonic rapids]

thank you guys i will check out outlaw!

[sharp meteor]

It feels like a lot of little things to juggle but it's fun, especially in 2s

[main barn]

which leggo for arms now?

[sharp meteor]

I can't imagine it's anything other than Enduring.

[main barn]

anyone know how to turn off blizz default arena frames

[sharp meteor]

Arena might be boss frames, so could try disabling those in edit mode.

Most arena frame addons should have an option to disable blizz ui stuff, though, I think?

[sly cliff]

Is vault for solo brawl rated working yet?

[mental bison]

just starting out as Arms warrior and am getting absolutley sloshed in PvP..... cant even find any real guides for DF, but pre patch is crazy anyway... in quick terms, can someone get me stat priority, legendary and what spec is the easiest/ performs best....

[modest kindle]

charge never use to work the way it does now right?

[sharp meteor]

Player versus Player
Rated Solo Shuffle
Fixed an issue that prevented rating gained from Solo Shuffle to affect your ability to upgrade gear.
Fixed an issue that could cause Rated Solo Shuffle first win of the day rewards to not be rewarded at level 60.
Fixed an issue that prevented Rated Solo Shuffle from providing progress towards the Great Vault and progress towards Vicious mounts while above 1000 rating.

[main barn]

people having more success in solo Q with arms or fury?

[craggy socket]

arms for me

fury does way more damage

[main barn]

that is confusing to me 😄

you are doing better playing arms, but fury does more damage?

[craggy socket]

Ya arms is fun

[warped warren]

[daring wadi]

Does anyone have any idea on what Comp might be competitive for warrior in dragonflight?

TSG, Turbo cleave, Vanguards, Dh warr?

[brave osprey]

So rated solo shuffle give % towards vicious mounts now but u still can't upgrade your gear?

[dreamy epoch]

thats what im seeing

its also counting towards the vault, but cant upgrade still. says i need a win

they cant possibly expect 6-0 as a win?

[brave osprey]

yea maybe

[kind canopy]

even with 2s win i cant get option tp upgrade gear someone said earlier that rating isnt working

[brave osprey]

I was able to upgrade my gear with my 3s raiting but my solo shuffle is higher

[kind canopy]

im gonna try and run some 2s to see if mine is working wasnt yesterday

[main barn]

after winning a solo Q game I was able to upgrade

I think you have to get 1st, maybe 2nd as well?

[kind canopy]

seems to be working now

[old pike]

upgrades are working?

[main barn]

ye

[old pike]

they didnt for me but maybe cus i didnt do a win today gonna go queue

[main barn]

ya you have to win now after the fix

[old pike]

lol hopefully i can keep my duelist

[junior kelp]

does anyone know if haste > crit > mastery is still the best stats for arms in prepatch?

[brave osprey]

I still can't upgrade, what is consider a win? win all 6 rounds? just won 5 and still can't upgrade at rival lvl im 1820 in rated solo shuffle

[junior kelp]

from what i heard, being in the top 3 is considered a "win"

idk if you get a raiding boost from it but you get first win of they day from top 3 so idk

[brave osprey]

oh well thats weird

[sharp meteor]

I think it's still bugged for the purpose of upgrades.

Vault progress and saddles are working, though, it seems...?

[old pike]

how much progress is it giving for saddle?

[sharp meteor]

Dunno. Conq gains buffed/fixed, though.

Hopefully gear upgrade win credit is working soon.

[kind canopy]

it is

[old pike]

guess ill find out when i don't get a leaver :D

[brave osprey]

U get 2%

I got 2% with 5 rounds win and 0 for 2rounds win

[brave osprey]

I see

[sharp meteor]

Not for shuffle rating.

Although maybe that's intended because it's all buggy and stuff right now.

[main barn]

worked for me after winning a shuffle game

US

might not be in EU yet

[sonic rapids]

it let you upgrade gear?

[main barn]

ya

[sharp meteor]

Weird, I just went 5-1 or something a minute ago and can't upgrade stuff.

[old pike]

that rating loss seemingly not enough to deter people from leaving rip

[sharp meteor]

Rating loss ain't in yet i thought.

[old pike]

oh its not?

rip lol

i didnt shuffle for like 2 days since upgrading wasnt working

[main barn]

they said something like "we plan to implement next week"