stop livin in 2008 
#pvp
copper hare
warped warren
stop being cringe in 2022 
sly sparrow
Hey all!
Been out of the game for a bit. Looking to get back into PvP until the next XPack.
How's warrior looking RN?
copper hare
there is only like 3-4 weeks left this season, but warrior is s tier
or do you mean how war looks in DF so far?
spice hornet
can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty
raw summit
sly sparrow
there is only like 3-4 weeks left this season, but warrior is s tier
In SL, but I'd like to know what people are thinking about DF PvP as well.
wheat jay
can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like t...
/castsequence reset=1 Raging Blow
You're welcome, enjoy your duelist 
wispy gulch
best legendarys for fury warrior pvp?
near delta
There's no God here
wispy gulch
?
raw summit
best legendarys for fury warrior pvp?
Signet or deathmaker
nimble jasper
you have to use unity
sharp meteor
or should i go deathmaker + kings
It's Unity + other.
I think that Kings is better in almost every situation.
Unless it's like a Fury carry comp/matchup where you just pve the one guy all game
wispy gulch
so unity + kings then?
sharp meteor
and/or your minutely stuff gets peeled (outlaw)
sharp meteor
so unity + kings then?
Ya
wispy gulch
alright.. and one last question, what's the fastest and most efficient way to get the 4 piece pvp tier set?
sharp meteor
idk get conquest from stuff then buy and convert pieces
wheat jay
He's wackforged
wispy gulch
question - when you WW and you get the extra attacks on other non-main-target mobs, if you bloodthirst them, do you get healed for multiple targets?
full quiver
can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty
sharp meteor
question - when you WW and you get the extra attacks on other non-main-target mo...
I don't think so.
muted surge
can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like t...
Didn’t you ask that already
Just on a new acc 🤔
fickle forge
can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty
raw summit
can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty
sage raptor
can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty
full quiver
can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like t...
Didn't you ask that already
muted surge
What shall I say, both of them look like trolls, so it fits 
fickle forge
Dw bro, we said the same to the original dude posting it
nimble jasper
@sharp meteor so i played some live 2s
disarm rogue in anticipation of a healer swap and they just give up the go
holy fk people playing this comp are braindead
sharp meteor
🧠
nimble jasper
i see this lfg rdru
no hots out of form
off stun dr
logically yeah healer swap?
still have to chase them around for 3mins cuz SL rogue mage
wheat jay
still have to chase them around for 3mins cuz SL rogue mage
Quick game then xD
nimble jasper
yeah idk
if i had a priest mage was dead in 1min
probs
i.e get caut block opener
@wheat jay know whats also cringe
wheat jay
Scoob?
nimble jasper
people who say fire is only good cuz of sub
wheat jay
Godtier mobility and kiting
nimble jasper
nah your average shitter mage
sees 2 purge classes
and loses both caut and block
in the first 2 goes of the game
copper hare
In SL, but I'd like to know what people are thinking about DF PvP as well.
There still wasn't any pvp tuning yet. Arms looks decent but in the end it will all depend on numbers. It's really cringe they haven't reverted the D stance nerf yet even in DF and there is a lot of overpowered/overtuned specs right now
thick reef
I took a 50k shadowbolt to the face yesterday. How is that possible? 🤔
sharp meteor
Necro Aff.
With the Nightfall honor talent can sling out big instant shadow bolts
be particularly careful if they get the deci on a low hp target like pet or earth ele
lean burrow
so confusing how there's hundred types of bolts for warlocks
decimating bolt, death bolt, demon bolt, shadow bolt
wheat jay
survi has pocket crossbow
fickle forge
Kill Bolt
Arcane Bolt
Aimed Bolt
Serpents Bolt
Bolt Command
Coordinated Bolt
Wildfire Bolt
wheat jay
you forgot coordinated bolting
fallen bridge
Anyone know if the orc stun reduction stacks with the new trinket bonus is DF?
raw summit
It doesnt
fallen bridge
So everyone goes nelf now
sharp meteor
Anyone know if the orc stun reduction stacks with the new trinket bonus is DF?
No, but orc should still sit shorter stuns.
tribal wedge
can finally go mag har and not trolling hard
nimble jasper
can finally go mag har and not trolling hard
still trolling hard
tribal wedge
still trolling hard
racist ....
nimble jasper
why would anyone wanna be an ugly orc
of either variety
or could not care cuz orc only mattered for the top end
sly sparrow
There still wasn't any pvp tuning yet. Arms looks decent but in the end it will ...
Defensive Stance Nerf?
ancient sonnet
It was nerfed in season 3 to only 10% Damage Reduction instead of 20%. But you still deal 20% less damage.
wheat jay
human superiority
Belf best
Aesthetics above all
Id play kultiran but theyre alliance
brazen vault
What do I take against bm hunter as a fury warrior? I'm doing double time of course but what about my pvp talents? slaughterhouse and warbringer of course but does disarm do anything? Feel like I just get kited around
sage raptor
or could not care cuz orc only mattered for the top end
Tell that to the hard locked 2100 players.
wheat jay
or could not care cuz orc only mattered for the top end
Ye tell that to fucking hard locked rival brain @fickle forge who pressured me to swap to orc
nimble jasper
Tell that to the hard locked 2100 players.
yeah idk
you might die to one 1600 rogue mage
that gaps their stun slightly less
sage raptor
5% stun reduction pretty strong
nimble jasper
fickle forge
Ye tell that to fucking hard locked rival brain <@278157108791476224> who pressu...
That was James who did that, and he even fucking paid it for you
wheat jay
He didnt pay for it
He would but paypal was broken
It was you too btw
So fuck you too
fickle forge
Ye cause your Polish paypal is busted
Man literally sent you the cash so you could race change
wheat jay
Ye cause your Polish paypal is busted
What do you mean its international PayPal you dumbass xD
wheat jay
Man literally sent you the cash so you could race change
Ye i sent it back cuz PayPal is stupid
Point stands
Fuck racials in wow
They should ONLY be qol stuff
Like 5% ms in open world, summining anvil etc
fickle forge
What do you mean its international PayPal you dumbass xD
Only reason cause everything goes wrong when it comes to you and economics
wheat jay
Only reason cause everything goes wrong when it comes to you and economics
OI that's not true you cunt
I got good monies now
Well, good Polish monies
BUT MONIES NONETHELESS
fickle forge
Ah shiet got me there
wheat jay
Gotcha bitch
Now
You will play KFC with me playing belf Hunter and you'll enjoy it
You can stay orc if you want
fickle forge
Nah guess I'll be human
wheat jay
you make me sick
fickle forge
Sure belf man
nimble jasper
humongo
double dps trinket
cant wait for fury to fall out of meta again in pvp tho
fuck this dumb spec
copper hare
pvp trinkets are pretty weak, that's why human is pretty meh I'd say.
it's not like wrath where dps trinket is everything
Just play whatever looks appealing
sharp meteor
pvp trinkets are pretty weak, that's why human is pretty meh I'd say.
effectively having CDR on stun break is also nice.
graceful ginkgo
Human flexibility regarding pvp trinkets is nice
copper hare
what does gnome have besides root break, 1% haste or smth right?
nimble jasper
and 5 more ragebar
sharp meteor
what does gnome have besides root break, 1% haste or smth right?
5% more secondary resource, like mana or rage
i think the 1 minute root break is also off global
then 1% haste
fickle forge
😑
sharp meteor
That's fine. Having those basically be baseline along with bolt and pend was going to be fucking insane.
fickle forge
We'll see
wheat crane
End of the day itll just come down to # tunning
Doesnt matter how well it plays if you cant kill anything
sharp meteor
Yeah. Like, for all we know we'll hit like fleas and even 100% uptime doesn't do anything.
Or maybe we connect and somebody blows up to a 70% health mortal strike crit.
full quiver
All we can confirm now is arms f tier again
tranquil hemlock
Nothing matters until release
brazen vault
What do I take against bm hunter as a fury warrior? I'm doing double time of course but what about my pvp talents? slaughterhouse and warbringer of course but does disarm do anything? Feel like I just get kited around
lean burrow
toss stun at hunter on intimidation?
or intervene and eat trap
disarm is useless against bm
sharp meteor
What do I take against bm hunter as a fury warrior? I'm doing double time of cou...
Disarm doesn't do anything.
full quiver
Just leave the game and save ur mental
sharp meteor
? Fury often domes BM.
Like if it's rdruid/bm vs fury/hpal yeah you're in shambles but generally it's fine
sharp meteor
or intervene and eat trap
Unreliable and often inting if you're giving up mobility
as even if you do eat it then you're stuck waddling for 15 seconds or something
lean burrow
? Fury often domes BM.
btw, I feel like something like this was asked but I don't remember: is disarm on double tap used only to postpone hunter's burst?
sharp meteor
BM can often just win on throughput/mana
lean burrow
cuz it stops only rapid fire but usually hunters aimed shot instead
sharp meteor
btw, I feel like something like this was asked but I don't remember: is disarm o...
Kind of. MM has a very easily disrupted damage profile. Well, in a vacuum. Hard to do anything about double tap when you're in a 7 second kidney.
lean burrow
so why pick disarm against mm+healer?
sharp meteor
Because it fucks up the MMs ability to burst you.
Or rather it's another stop when you aren't in CC, or trinket
like trinket leap disarm on their go now MM does nothing
It's BM where it doesn't do enough to warrant picking
similar with Surv
sharp meteor
I think my favorite thing into BM is just playing impending, trance, enduring with slaughterhouse and pveing their Disc priest into the ground.
brazen vault
I think my favorite thing into BM is just playing impending, trance, enduring wi...
what are you rated
copper hare
😑
They do some random unreal random shit. Meanwhile monk with 3 rolls, tigers lust double port and flying serpent kick, or dh with 8 sec cd fel rush, double glaive slow 20 sec, vengeful retreat 
and let's not talk about outlaw 20 yard melee range, 232930 gapclosers
lean burrow
monk's class fantasy = being fast
mage's class fantasy = being overpowered
warrior's class fantasy = being background fodder character
near delta
I mean arms or fury warrior has been s tier the entire expansion
sage raptor
Shhh don't ruin their circle jerk
main barn
if you whirlwind bloodthirst do you get healing for each target hit or just 1?
just tested looks like just 1!
any general tips for playing fury/ret/rdruid? like who we generally target or general playstyle tips?
lean burrow
me
sharp meteor
Me when I see Outlaw on the enemy team
tired portal
I mean arms or fury warrior has been s tier the entire expansion
no one likes playing fury, they just play it cause its better than arms
sage raptor
Cap
Fury miles better. Arms is 123123 just like fury but everyone is too biased to see it.
Hell I prefer prot over the dps
steep inlet
Double Time – Cooldown reduction now has 50% effectiveness in PvP.
Overpower no longer deals 9% reduced damage in PvP.
Execute no longer deals 13% reduced damage in PvP.
tribal wedge
Overpower no longer deals 9% reduced damage in PvP.
Execute no longer deals 13% ...
big exec
wheat jay
Overpower no longer deals 9% reduced damage in PvP.
Execute no longer deals 13% ...
Huge
fickle forge
Now unnerf MS as well
median shuttle
raw summit
execute
spice hornet
Need arms macro help plz
wheat jay
Now unnerf MS as well
Is it nerfed?
fickle forge
Is it nerfed?
Ye boi
It's like 174% AP or something normally, but 140% in PvP
Very rough number memory off the back of my head there
But you get the idea
lean island
Best healer for fury/ret in 3s?
sharp meteor
seems like rdruid
lean island
Mhh cause synergy with Comp or cuz is op this season? Holy priest can work as well?
ancient sonnet
May not wanna roll off Orc yet. Looks like the trinket bonus was nerfed to 10% CC reduction. Dunno if 10% stun reduction is enough to pick orc over other races though.
copper hare
Oh damn, were rogues already crying on twitter?
ancient sonnet
I mean it was kind of a buff to rogues anyway. Nearly everyone plays orc or human/rele as it is. So it was nerfing 'rele' by 5% and getting less orcs out there.
lean burrow
Why the fook devs always cater to rogues?
raw summit
Rogue mains
copper hare
I mean it was kind of a buff to rogues anyway. Nearly everyone plays orc or huma...
No, this wasn't a buff to rogues anyway, rogues don't only stun, they also blind/sap/disarm/gouge etc
ancient sonnet
Fine, it was a buff to their kill window
copper hare
and there were still classes who can't play orc, like DH and pala
ancient sonnet
Pallys were part of the human/rele crowd tbf. And DH's are a non-issue for rogues
copper hare
and trust me if you thought playing war into outlaw is horrible, try dh xd
sharp meteor
i mean shorter stuns means higher burst to kill somebody during go
copper hare
Literally just fight hpal war hpal dk all day
Yes and it's gonna be worse as the expansion goes on because hpalas get even better and better
20 min games aren't rare in s7/s8
sharp meteor
Mmm falling for the classic meme
spice hornet
Mmm falling for the classic meme
It’s absolutely a meme
Just doing it since retail qs are dead af
Some of the sweatiest people I’ve ever seen on WoW here
deep harness
Just got my puzzling coin!
graceful ginkgo
where is that from? beta is down
graceful ginkgo
Oh, Beta back on. The CC redux did get nerfed to 10%
copper hare
Yeah, primary set + stamina from set also got nerfed, but that was obvious
10% is sadge tho
I mean it's like sephuz now but yeah, no discussion about orc again..
copper hare
And they still didn't add any relentless trinket, that means orc should now even be better than before because humand can't even buy relentless anymore lol, only adapt and medallion
and elite gear now available on beta, honor gear and conquest elite gear are only 13 ilvl apart
lucid walrus
kinda huge
graceful ginkgo
afaik there's only gonna be 1 item level of conquest...right?
honor set, conquest set, done
copper hare
For pvp yes
graceful ginkgo
jeah for pvp
copper hare
you can still upgrade those items to gain ilvl in pve
graceful ginkgo
and yes, orc is better in df than live, i agree
copper hare
but for pvp the ilvl stays the same wether its 1/9 or 9/9
ancient sonnet
do male orcs look less ridiculous on the dragons in DF than most mounts currently?
copper hare
arcane mage randomly hitting for 150k into 130k on beta haha
every tuning there is a new spec
nimble jasper
do male orcs look less ridiculous on the dragons in DF than most mounts currentl...
play female orc
problem solved
copper hare
or use jmorph
ancient sonnet
Nah I like the green beefy boy but I just wish the mounts scaled up more
sage raptor
Orc 🤮
wheat jay
Trinket bonus changed to 10% CC reduction
Fun is over guys
Refund your race changes
sharp meteor
I'll have one warr that's human/orc but the rest gonna be other stuff.
lean burrow
blizzard dev that does pvp saw what they want to do
and changed it
source: trust me
dev is rogue main
sharp meteor
I think that there's two cool scenarios: picking a race for the racials and then because you like it. Ideally both. The thing is that it's not really possible to even theorycraft about goblin racial and how worthwhile it is when orc is just going to be PASSIVELY better.
Nerfing the best thing gets people trying other things, and that's neato.
lean burrow
i wish they just disabled racials
sharp meteor
Yeah, disabling racials in endgame content would be sick but won't happen. 
lean burrow
we got cross faction
impossible happens
maybe even old mounts/pvp sets will be available when next classic expacs come
nimble jasper
old sets are available
wheat jay
15% CC reduction trinket set bonus nerfed to 10%
wheat jay
Orc is 20% to stuns
nimble jasper
its still the best
uneven turret
I dont get it….how does that make orc viable again
wheat jay
10% big, 5% not as big
fickle forge
10 is smaller than 15
wheat jay
We want big
uneven turret
O…k
sharp meteor
I dont get it….how does that make orc viable again
Orc was already looking fine this just makes it better which is annoying
uneven turret
I mean i am glad i hate human warrior but still not seeing the point here lol
uneven turret
Gap between orc and other races got bigger due nerf
Right but this change only brought it 5% closer…..
fickle forge
Also that
fickle forge
Right but this change only brought it 5% closer…..
It's a 33% nerf though
nimble jasper
yeah shaving off 10% is p much the diff
of him getting another evis off
before recheap
or not
tbf
uneven turret
Okayy give me the bottom line my warrior daddys: what is the BIS race for pvp in DF?
fickle forge
Orc
uneven turret
Ty
sharp meteor
Okayy give me the bottom line my warrior daddys: what is the BIS race for pvp i...
We don't know. Conservative picks are Orc/Human followed by Gnome, I think.
fickle forge
Rogues like that meld, but no shield conduit now
So prob just gonna get insta out again
wheat jay
Buff to survi
More dmg to Arctic bola and 4ppm now
Which means
Even more dmg to mongoose bite YAY
Y'all are fucked in Dragonflight
If you spear a survi you better use they time to run away
lean burrow
old sets are available
elite sets i mean
does wotlk have transmog?
maybe one day blizz will merge classic and retail transmog collection
and I will get BfA season 1 set
indigo barn
S1 BFA horde was just a tusks set
sharp meteor
nobody knows
warr generally nice time s1 tho
also participation high so everybody pushes new ratings and feels good
uneven turret
granted ill be playing rated solo shuffle, dont matter if i am meta haha
copper hare
maybe glad dream aint dead yet https://gyazo.com/977ee37083cb64dfc7bee7c66e66d0ae
wheat jay
You have whole two weeks
full quiver
Sus crop
wheat jay
Push push push
copper hare
Arms good? Fury good?
fury will probably be sucky sucky unless the numbers turn out to be really high. No tier set, no crushing blow charge anymore, very low haste in the first so bad slaughterhouse uptime. Unless they do some real weird tuning prepare for arms
copper hare
You have whole two weeks
yeah but it's still rough. was 2.3 almost 2 months ago, mates quit retail for classic, but now I found a ret to play with and we pumpin, let's see lol
uneven turret
fury will probably be sucky sucky unless the numbers turn out to be really high....
And how about Arms?
lucid walrus
with the tools arms has and will gain going into DF it looks pretty damn strong
the double time cd reduction nerf kinda sucks but you'll prob pick it anyway just for having 2 uses of charge
wheat jay
1.5s cd loss from the talent wont even be noticeable xD
copper hare
Yeah arms looks fine, but still a lot of overtuned specs who can just oneshot and overshadow specs like arms atm
probably another 2 months before we can talk about the best spec
uneven turret
I mean, either Arms or Fury should be playable right? I only played SL but for you guys that have played longer, has warrior ever not existed in pvp in previous expansions before?
copper hare
ofc it will be playable. You don't have be worried to not be viable if war is your favorite class
lucid walrus
I mean, either Arms or Fury should be playable right? I only played SL but for ...
not really
it's rarely bad and when it is it'll still have comps
copper hare
I already said it multiple times but it's kinda cringe that they didn't revert most pvp modifiers yet, they should do an reset every expansion. cringe d stance nerf for 3 years doesnt make sense
lean burrow
fury will probably be sucky sucky unless the numbers turn out to be really high....
fury still got passive 10% wall, root break and self heals though
oh wait, fury lost bladestorm, nvm
fury is shit now
sharp meteor
oh wait, fury lost bladestorm, nvm
gonna feel like budget havoc without storm
lean burrow
havoc who got silence, fear and god knows what else:
sharp meteor
muh arms identity i guess
lean burrow
Are you serious? Lmao
copper hare
Are you serious? Lmao
yes, they completely got rid of bladestorm and added ravager instead
graceful ginkgo
fury is shit now
hopefully
fickle bloom
Which is stronger for pvp fury, necrolord or kyrian?
sharp meteor
They're both quite good, it just depends on what you're queuing.
In turbo I like Kyrian, in Kitty I'd play Necro. Ret/warr I'm not really sure.
fickle bloom
So fury wont be good in DF?
tribal wedge
So fury wont be good in DF?
probably not
fickle bloom
Will any warrior spec be good?
tribal wedge
probably
muted surge
not
icy bridge
Prot Warrior looks fun in Dragonflight
scarlet barn
@elfin surge
elfin surge
so that's why mud is maining prot now
echo zenith
is the pinned info regardin 9.2 pvp still up to date?
fickle forge
Who knows, else the guides are at least
spice hornet
Mud stormforged when?
near delta
Mud stormforged when?
Needs to post his bench first
full quiver
Mud is going for prot war rank 1 in df season 1
red onyx
guys im pretty new but is there a solid way to play prot in pvp?
red onyx
:/
raw summit
Tanks arent really a thing in arena
sharp meteor
Most tanks have potential it's just harder to find teammates.
I think that I've seen every tank above glad except vengeance in sl.
fickle bloom
Just hoping fury will still be good in DF
sharp meteor
It was okay in SL up until tier when it became good.
Like, it'll be fine for goals other than r1.
fickle forge
Top 0.1%
ancient sonnet
guys im pretty new but is there a solid way to play prot in pvp?
I remember watching something recently with Rextroy hitting 2.4k in 2s with an unholy DK. Not sure on any specifics but you could check it out
fickle forge
Otherwise @steep inlet ran some prot warr + outlaw last season
sharp meteor
Lack of MS and ability to deal with magic damage seems like the issue with prot.
elfin surge
Mud is going for prot war rank 1 in df season 1
shh a certain tank player looks through here on his stream
😶
steep inlet
Otherwise <@143764641649131520> ran some prot warr + outlaw last season
Yep
I don’t give a shit about this season btw
Empty and sad season
Soon Master in Overwatch 2
fickle forge
Soon Master in Overwatch 2
Kind of jumped on this train as well
But I'm still grabbing 2.4k 2s arms+Hpala before I leave the season to collect more dust
steep inlet
👍
elfin surge
muted surge
is there any df beta arms streamer / yt?
sharp meteor
Just...play it when pre-patch is out.
Alpha/beta is rarely worth even looking at because stuff changes so much.
sharp meteor
I logged onto Beta to have my Shaman knock me back, root me, knock me back as it ended into another root then execute me from 80% with an elemental blast.
sharp meteor
Warr is a really nice time right now so only thinking about that. Will worry about DF after the season ends.
viscid bluff
Sin really needed those buffs
They removed their aura buffs from sl
And are now buffing accordingly
nimble jasper
And are now buffing accordingly
lean burrow
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ndiCbBzfq2X3uPEZRb-eVASvtg9x50Maa15...
I remember rogues having -30% or something overall damage a few weeks ago so it's ok
or just respec into outlaw, it's a warrior spec anyway
waxen knot
Like fury ? 😂
ancient sonnet
^
spice hornet
Fury doesn’t have a 6 stun on a 20 sec cd
Fury doesn’t have auto attack as #1 dmg regularly or some dot
ancient sonnet
Don't try and defend fury my guy
spice hornet
Why do u suck rogue dick in the warrior discord
ancient sonnet
Hardly sucking rogue dick but calling another spec brain dead when fury exists is laughable
wheat jay
why do you bother looking at balance changes now?
in regards to pvp
when noone knows how it's gonna look like in pvp
and those changes are pve focused
sharp meteor
why do you bother looking at balance changes now?
idk maybe they think it'll give them some kind of insight
legit just not worth looking at rn aside from maybe what new buttons each spec gettin
and like the mechanics of the talents etc
sharp meteor
Fury doesn’t have auto attack as #1 dmg regularly or some dot
that's a matter of dmg sources also autos being high isn't a bad thing
fickle forge
Fury doesn’t have auto attack as #1 dmg regularly or some dot
Fury just has CB/RB as #1 instead 😎👍
Assassa be 123123kidneyshiv123123, but fury just be 1112111211121112
sage raptor
Like arms is any better lol
wheat jay
Arms needs to use hamstring
raw summit
this is how i play fury
sage raptor
Shift 4 tbf
frozen sapphire
Greatsword vs Pulverizer for Fury?
frozen sapphire
aite
it's more the weird dmg numbers on them
sword has bigger variance but higher top end but i guess it doesn't matter much for us
"us" - fury
sharp meteor
Greatsword vs Pulverizer for Fury?
I'd go with the mace as it's Mastery.
fickle forge
Like arms is any better lol
Okay, like any spec is any better then
lucid walrus
🙏
sage raptor
People who farm for "prepatch bis"
sharp meteor
who cares about tier sets, season is gonna end
Interactions might've been breaking stuff due to duplicates.
Also makes testing a little harder.
sharp meteor
ya idk why soulbinds and leggos aren't yoinked too
nimble jasper
i dont think you can take greenskin tho else I would have tried doming someone for 40k pistol shots
nimble jasper
ya idk why soulbinds and leggos aren't yoinked too
hey i wanna see someone get gloomblade crit for half their hp
might have happened with 4set vs pet classes
copper hare
ya idk why soulbinds and leggos aren't yoinked too
It wouldn't make sense to not disable covenants and soulbinds since a lot of stuff will be implemented into new talent trees, are you sure it's not disabled?
nimble jasper
its not on ptr at least
copper hare
Legion things got disabled when bfa pre patch hit and bfa shit got disabled when shadowlands pre patch hit, I'm sure they will disable anything
simple rock
who cares about tier sets, season is gonna end
I mean you can q arena during prepatch for fun
copper hare
otherwise people could play double covenants basically lol
wheat crane
People who farm for "prepatch bis"
Gotta get that 2% leveling advantage
copper hare
god bless pvp gear is just 311 in any slot
indigo barn
they tune specs because no cov swapping
sharp meteor
otherwise people could play double covenants basically lol
Gonna double spear me some lanky dragon nerds.
copper hare
or dh with double hunt haha
proven maple
Necro banner’d spears sounds fun!
nimble jasper
yea until the rogue cloaks and walks out of it
copper hare
can't anymore
proven maple
Bolt him
copper hare
spear is physical in DF
proven maple
Bladestorm it
copper hare
ravager him
proven maple
Ick
nimble jasper
sad thing about pirate
is he still has 2 more outs
vanish and gouge if zerker is on cd
proven maple
True. Fuck evasion every time
sage raptor
Gonna double spear me some lanky dragon nerds.
The CD is shared
sharp meteor
The CD is shared
My hopes and dreams, shattered
sage raptor
Yeahhh
sharp meteor
its gonna be higher in DF
I wonder if Outlaw is going to be similarly bullshit in DF
2s as a borderline unkillable dps suddenly feeling pretty chill
sage raptor
Think of current outlaw but with shadowstep now
sharp meteor
Grapple failing 70% if there's an incline is tilting yep
sage raptor
I love grapple. It's so unique. Shame it doesn't work sometimes.
sharp meteor
Ye
nimble jasper
I wonder if Outlaw is going to be similarly bullshit in DF
well
3% dr from atrophic poison
3% phys dmg reduction from deadened nerves
you get step as outlaw now too
you get a real ms in DF since wound poison can stack to 5
i think only real nerf is 30 yd blind got nerfed to like 20
nimble jasper
blinding powder raises it to 20
important part is still the 30s cdr
@sharp meteor oh yikes i just tested you can grab greenskins at 60
people boutta get plowed in prepatch
💀
sharp meteor
Hm I wonder if MM still gonna commit war crimes in bgs during prepatch
wish I setup my stupid druid
lean burrow
I mean you can q arena during prepatch for fun
willow stratus
Hm I wonder if MM still gonna commit war crimes in bgs during prepatch
LOL
whats the best healer in 2's w fury?
sharp meteor
Rdruid feels great.
willow stratus
rdruid I think?
yeah ive seen people say MW>H priest> rdruid
but i feel like rdruid is best
sharp meteor
Hpriest that high? Now? I don't know about that.
Mw or Rdruid then just kind of pve feels nice into most things.
sharp meteor
Yeah.
sharp meteor
I usually try to avoid playing it much after 2100
as 2v2 is just kind of the chill gear route
willow stratus
yeah but 3's you gotta voice and super try hard
sharp meteor
There's just kind of no incentive to play 2v2
Just had a 9 minute game versus Outlaw/Arcane/Rdruid.
warped warren
lean burrow
sage raptor
That's an incentive to not play 3s
elfin surge
raw summit
/wait for me man
twilit ridge
Unlike you guys I am 1-0 against @elfin surge in RBGS
They call me the Buggin Farmer
spice hornet
To be a true warrior you must defeat mud boosting
twilit ridge
<@335472199148371969> I also destroyed mud on alt war smh
You would not survive against me
They call me the Scoobz Farmer
twilit ridge
Ur too low to even queue into le
u can't get carried forever, I'll Q into u next session
I'll gatekeep u
U will lose to the last Arms Woyer
full quiver
Lol
twilit ridge
I forgot to make leaper before I logged out last fuck
round egret
what's the fastest way to farm conq
if ur a noob with no friends
who can't play rankeds
elfin surge
<@335472199148371969> I also destroyed mud on alt war smh
mods im being bullied
lean burrow
mods are gat
elfin surge
we're unmoderated here in pvp chat
wheat jay
That's not true
You were not here when it happened
When all was lost
When a big chapter of pvp history was brutally erased
This channel is a mere shadow of what it once was
full quiver
They banned cali @elfin surge lmao
elfin surge
They banned cali <@269709440146604032> lmao
🫡
spice hornet
@elfin surge we good?
twilit ridge
mods im being bullied
If u streamed you wouldn't get bullied
elfin surge
If u streamed you wouldn't get bullied
😬
twilit ridge
elfin surge
<@269709440146604032> we good?
lol peon
lean burrow
full quiver
If u streamed you wouldn't get bullied
Only if he streams no cam
round egret
so the set is shit
raw summit
no
round egret
cuz i dont need crit as a warrior
raw summit
literally read what it does
round egret
yh i mean its good but
raw summit
absolutely required
round egret
it ruins the stats
raw summit
haste and crit is better than the mastery crit legs for instance
shoulders and helm are great
both haste vers
round egret
okay thanks
scarlet barn
why does this shit thing have crit and tempo
Well it would have other stat
If you used english
sage raptor
True and real
tribal wedge
hâte 
fickle forge
Tempo
Personally, I play with low tempo on my arms warr
I prefer big Frappe Mortelle
lucid walrus
frappe mortelle with caramel drizzle goes hard
graceful ginkgo
So, for maximum frappelle, you guys going le Gnome or le Orc?
spice hornet
Le orc tempo build
wheat jay
Belf for 1% more crit
sharp meteor
🪓 🦊
nimble jasper
So, for maximum frappelle, you guys going le Gnome or le Orc?
I mean I’m human for looks rn
if pvp isnt booty in DF maybe we go back orc
sage raptor
Great. More orc dick riding.
near delta
No but actually what does tempo mean? lmao
That'd be a weird translation of haste right
nimble jasper
well trinket bonus got nerfed to 10%
gentle roost
Do racials really matter that much?
graceful ginkgo
Probably not tbh, I was just asking since I have an Orc and time to level a second Arms
copper hare
need macro help
sure
#showtooltip
/cast Recklessness
/cast Blood Fury
/y PI ME YOU CUNT
lean burrow
anyone with beta? how do you get duelist transmog in DF?
raw summit
/castsequence reset=20 Conqueror's Banner, Recklessness, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage
sage raptor
anyone with beta? how do you get duelist transmog in DF?
What Phil said
sharp meteor
anyone with beta? how do you get duelist transmog in DF?
hit tiny magic man with big stick until he stops moving
sharp meteor
Do racials really matter that much?
yes and no
good race always some advantage
but bad race shouldn't be what stops you from hitting goals other than maybe r1
lean burrow
hit tiny magic man with big stick until he stops moving
i mean pvp ilvl stays the same, only pve ilvl is upgradable
is duelist transmog unlocked on 8/9 pve ilvl?
sharp meteor
uh, presumably
lean burrow
fickle bloom
So you want more crit than mastery if you go kyrian with fury?
The reason I ask is I covenant changed from necro and I had already prioritized mastery
sharp meteor
Hmm. Crit might honestly be decent if emphasis is on blowing somebody up in a spear.
I think that you could realistically play most combinations of stats as either spec and be fine.
sharp meteor
fury with like 25 haste feels fine
craggy socket
Must be hard being a total chad pressing gargoyle on WoW classic to win games
what can you even do about that thing? kill it?
not having stormbolt sucks :*(
spice hornet
You line it or q with an hpal who fears it
Usually you win as hpal war vs. dk hpal
But man are the games boring and long
I’m more annoyed there’s like multiple people running around with betrayer of humanity meanwhile deadly weps are 2 weeks out still and are worse than naxx 25 weps lol
Really stupid
spice hornet
Good lol
warped warren
)
sharp meteor
missin sinful and the big 2400 weps
fickle bloom
Is tormented king better for pvp?
I've been running deathmaker but someone actually refused let me join their rbg group because I wasn't specifically running tormented kings
sharp meteor
Deathmaker feels inconsistent, at least into a lot of matchups.
Whereas Tormented lets you 50/50 both bladestorm and reck.
Both of which align with your big covenant ability a lot of the time.
DM feels good in a few Fury "carry" comps like with a prot paladin or maybe turbo, and just into stuff that's low mobility (so high uptime) but also has CDs to deal with goes yet suffers to sustained damage, so maybe stuff like Shadow Priests.
But imo just play Kings it's fun and really good.
sage raptor
Prepatch plate set
severe skiff
yo that set is legit
severe skiff
Legs kind of a weak point but overall the game needs some more gothic style plate sets
lucid walrus
wonder if the engine straight up doesn’t allow 3d cloaks
would be incredible for this set imo
indigo barn
People with shit PC's would have a bad time
sharp meteor
wonder if the engine straight up doesn’t allow 3d cloaks
I think it's more that they'd just look all goofy and shitty.
lucid walrus
ya probably. good 3d armor design beyond shoulders/helm/gloves only came in like legion anyway
sharp meteor
Less than ideal but I appreciate the aesthetic.
graceful ginkgo
Too bad it‘s prolly gonna look ass on Orcs
past jolt
Prepatch plate set
Looks like a squire and a tin man dope
muted surge
beta is actually fun
sharp meteor
How it felt to queue into unholy/demo in Cosmic
copper hare
beta is actually fun
Abo limb seems pretty busted
amber harness
just had a heal that flamed me for not killing a marksman hunter pet
what the F can a marksman hunter pet even do?
muted surge
bite you?
fickle forge
just had a heal that flamed me for not killing a marksman hunter pet
what the F ...
Freedom, MS and sac
It's big to kill it
muted surge
It's big to kill it
so against mm is the pet prio, or just cleave?
fickle forge
Cleave, and hit it when you're waddling towards him
muted surge
i see, ty
hushed plank
Nooo another darkmoon deck meta? 😦
sharp meteor
just had a heal that flamed me for not killing a marksman hunter pet
what the F ...
Freedom, Mortal Strike, Sacrifice, as Kargish says. They're in shambles versus cleaves unless they have a Rogue if you dome their pet as they often have to turtle to get another one. Not always, but usually.
sharp meteor
so against mm is the pet prio, or just cleave?
Yeah. So, sweeping strikes and whirlwind (cleaved) hits gain full value and kill the pet rather easily if they aren't mending it off cd which is easy to forget to do. Oh, and spear dot full value.
The other cool thing about Hunter pets with rdruid is that you can use them like a second target to force globals/mana from the Rdruid and then they'll neglect to hot the Hunter.
As something that's rough with Rdruid is being unable to swaap off their hotted target.
muted surge
sharp meteor
I've had so many games this season where we just randomly killed the pet.
fickle forge
The other cool thing about Hunter pets with rdruid is that you can use them like...
Yeah this as well
A lot easier to drain Rdruids when they're forced to HoT the pet
fickle forge
Just don't be god tier in 2s and we can consider talking about it
If you're gonna go out of your way to play something as snake worthy as surv+Rdruid, then your pet deserves at least 1.000 deaths that game
full quiver
Lol
steep inlet
https://www.news.com.au/technology/gaming/interview-new-features-for-world-of-warcraft-dragonflight/news-story/2c1eacbf2172d3692f7ef04be7c61953
GLHF: Could you describe how your team conducts balance passes? I’m sure the PvE team hits the dummy a bunch of times and tests a bunch of fights, and PvP is probably a lot of duels. If someone beats you in PvP, do they get a day off?
Holinka: [laughs] Absolutely not. We have a lot of high-end players that actually work for our team — people who were Blizzcon champions in Arena and so on. They have a really good sense of what the player base wants and needs, and we do the best with what we can. Balancing classes is a tough gig, and we try to respect that everyone plays differently and design ways to allow them to do that.
the whaaz nerfing war perma theory was true
wheat jay
No way that's true
High end players working for their team
If they are they must have been open world pvp classic players
sage raptor
"...we try to respect that everyone plays differently..."
Tanks in solo shuffle aren't going anywhere
sharp meteor
Well, that's a given. I just hope that it isn't tank/dps/dps.
Tanks could be adjusted to be fine/healthy.
wheat jay
How can they say that they have idea of what playerbase needs and wants and then drop like 6 proper pvp balance patches whole expansion
raw summit
the playerbase needs more fotm rerolled meta comps on 1800 CR
nimble jasper
wheres the meme that if jahmilli had any influence on pvp
he’d delete shamans
from the game
nimble jasper
whoever made
dhs
and fury
:pantsgrab:
current fury gotta be the most braindead shit
after bm hunters
wheat jay
Bro not after bm hunters
nimble jasper
If you're gonna go out of your way to play something as snake worthy as surv+Rdr...
when bron summon knock stops rdruid tranq
wheat jay
Fury is the #1 retarded spec
nimble jasper
its the best
was a sadge moment tbf cuz i was gonna target pet on pirate
and kill druid through flurrying through his tranq immune
fickle forge
RIP Xaryu
nimble jasper
why would you ever give deep back to mages
wheat jay
There's no reason to add anything more to rmp
Most Control, most burst, crazy kiting, crazy defensives
Cheat deaths
Immunities
Did I miss anything
wheat jay
Cuz they got nerfed
wheat jay
I mean
It applies to every class/comp
People play meta
And if its bad, they switch to next fotm
Warrior is the Perfect example
nimble jasper
ret war
wheat jay
Fury became better than arms
nimble jasper
notice as soon as ret war is like
sage raptor
Yeah yall jumped the arms ship quickly lol
wheat jay
And suddenly noone plays arms anymore
wheat jay
The worst bunch were people that cried about fury being broken and retarded
YET
They still played fury all day every day
Hypocrites
nimble jasper
idk
fickle forge
rmp is only viable mage comp
nimble jasper
ret paladins complain about mobility
meanwhile
drop 80% of someones hp
the second they get in range
nimble jasper
nah mage lock allegedly bad comp
once resolve got nerfed
or they cant lob 0.5s chaos bolts
nimble jasper
Also when you think about other historically hated comps
godcomp and LSD
notice a trend?
nimble jasper
Am I the only one who finds it ironic
when lock mains complain rogue has too much cc
meanwhile coil into triple fear that always somehow paths out of healer los
raw summit
ret paladins complain about mobility
they are literally asking for their class to be less oneshotty and more mobile
they want to make that tradeoff
nimble jasper
yeah who knows if blizz will do it
cuz some deranged pve main ret who wants to bubble wings will mald maybe
wheat jay
At least they fixed one class
Survi will be very melee focused
Wirh close to zero rng involved
full quiver
Lmfao
graceful ginkgo
they are literally asking for their class to be less oneshotty and more mobile
This
Blizz doesnt seem to care tho
elfin surge
spice hornet
vestal ibex
A 2nd charge of freedom and a cd reduction on hinderence would be nice tbf
Would happily trade a lot of the burst for that
nimble jasper
empowered seals was p much the ideal ret playstyle
sage raptor
Lucky bastards
I wanna one-shot and have bad mobility
But having a bubble is for bitches so I can't play it
drowsy wasp
how you stop warlock burst, fear the soul rot?
nimble jasper
how you stop warlock burst, fear the soul rot?
varies by spec
darksoul generally means go los
and tyrant summons
craggy socket
It's gotta be hard being a mega retard chad playing DK in wrath
sharp meteor
how you stop warlock burst, fear the soul rot?
Fear on soul rot dark glare dark souk then line and dispel can be good ya
vestal ibex
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1024881678881144862/1031524729686868098/u...
That was their reasoning for removing Long Arm Of The Law
I like how they even admit they're anti-fun
"We recognise it's fun but our goal for ret is something else"
graceful ginkgo
Jeah that didnt sit well with Ret players
vestal ibex
I mean, if the goal is to keep strengths in "removing things that hinder mobility"
Make Freedom baseline and on 15sec cd
Also there was no reason to remove Blessing of Spellwarding
It helped with so many of rets issues
nimble jasper
It's gotta be hard being a mega retard chad playing DK in wrath
if you didnt know dks were extremely strong in wotlk you were living under a rock
warr hpal beats dk hpal though
wheat jay
But having a bubble is for bitches so I can't play it
im sure you'd do fine
sage raptor
You rerolled to fury because it's meta. Big arms fan until it's not meta huh?
sage raptor
Prolly
nimble jasper
artji is a surv player
wheat jay
I'm the last person you should send that message to hahahaha
sage raptor
artji is a surv player
EWWWWWWW
nimble jasper
surv is like
wheat jay
survi and all warrior specs in pve
sage raptor
Blocked and reported
nimble jasper
way more thought than fury
sage raptor
That's the man Officer
nimble jasper
fury requires like
wheat jay
its okay popo
wheat jay
surv is new arms in dragonflight
nimble jasper
if that
sage raptor
I don't play warrior at all if we're here to be honest. I just like trolling.
sage raptor
bombs and ranged attacks do 0 dmg
F
full quiver
What
wheat jay
i leave that to @full quiver who plays survi like the worst rat
full quiver
Is so fun
sage raptor
Hucking grenades is satisfying sometimes I'll give you that
full quiver
Slaughterhouse should not refresh like dk necrotic
sage raptor
In DF when everyone goes prot