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copper hare
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and they just die :D

raw summit
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🙏

sage raptor
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I think that's inexperience

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It is a literal brand new class

raw summit
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i hope its bad so we dont see many of those ugly fucks

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only green i wanna see is orcs

sage raptor
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You probably won't see a lot of those either >.>

copper hare
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I do like the dragon as a race, if it was available to more classes

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I dislike evoker though, very boring to play

raw summit
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i think a fair share of people are orcs and wont race change

raw summit
sage raptor
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Yeah. But there's a lot of hardstuck 1800 players who will change to the meta race.

raw summit
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i might play my troll warrior gladge

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dem trolls be flippin mon

copper hare
raw summit
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i mean orc floaty shoulders is one thing

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but draenai boot issues in all slots weird

copper hare
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gnomes with big 2 hands were half of the weapon is sticking into the ground, was always my favorite

raw summit
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i love that yea

sage raptor
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Upright undead should've been a thing already

sharp meteor
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Forsaken suck.

sage raptor
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You suck

mortal elm
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hey im playing rbgs with arms now

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is playing kyrian is vast diff?

frank knoll
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I’ve been watching those 5v5/1v1 duels in beta and I always see evoker die quickly

drowsy wasp
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is it easier to run down holy priest against outlaw/holy?

nimble jasper
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as a melee unless hes half afk

drowsy wasp
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i actually killed outlaw!

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cuz his holy oom

nimble jasper
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thats not supposed to happen

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alot of fotm outlaw players dont know how to do damage though

south gull
sharp meteor
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optimal play honestly seems pretty hard at least in 3v3

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it's just that you have so many buttons to avoid dying in 2s

nimble jasper
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yeah

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abusing extended range to force healers to juke more

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is also funny

sharp meteor
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whizzle all over 305 warr as 286 outlaw cos shiv kidney disarm defensive blind etc the whole game

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ya the range is really fky

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woop focus kidney lmao

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kick from downtown

nimble jasper
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shiv is ok but yeah

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deadzoning some melee can be funny

sharp meteor
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it's like only moment of danger vs warr is trying to decide which of 5 buttons to press to stop all their dam

nimble jasper
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melee in general is a chill time as that spec

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unless its survival

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or rogue mage

wheat crane
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this new ui on beta is nice

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like a built in bartender

frank knoll
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Can’t figure out how to had more bars
I play with like 5-6 bars

sharp meteor
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It needs more bars.

frank knoll
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Also I play with my bars hidden I only look at weak auras

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Bars lighting up + wa + gladius details etc makes my brain go berserk

wheat jay
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Need all the bars

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And then more

sharp meteor
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I just have a clump of bars in the middle right beneath my char

raw summit
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you can do that on ptr/beta

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works great

drowsy wasp
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Is skill capped useful for learning?

willow stratus
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what race we playing for DF boys?

thick steeple
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human prolly?

willow stratus
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even with no Relentless? i hope so tho

thick steeple
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well why not, can run double dmg trinkets

willow stratus
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mmmm i dont see that happening

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i think maybe troll/gnome is gonna be meta but i hate how they look lol

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no boots on troll always bothered me and gnome is just ugly LOL

thick steeple
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double trink way better than troll/gnome racials

willow stratus
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I guess if you still get the 2 set bonus

drowsy wasp
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wow disc is easy to kill in 2s

willow stratus
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shit ill play human, I like it visually way more than gnome or troll lol

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Nelf could be good too for outplays with shadow meld

thick steeple
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yeah, im thinking of going nelf, looks good as well

willow stratus
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stealth classes get a lot more from it tho

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also trinket disarm is so important in a lot of matchups

thick steeple
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true, but its good vs some easy to meld stuff

willow stratus
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any high level kitty cleave players have advice for it?

tranquil hemlock
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Human for alliance/Tauren for horde is my guess

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For double dmg trinket like was said earlier. The value that brings outweighs any other racial specifically with DF arms talents

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Getting double time stun and impending victory is massive

willow stratus
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oh we have stun on charge again?

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has anyone farmed darkshore mounts in shadow lands? is it possible

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the cats look so good but I cant find any of the rares

copper hare
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and I don't think thinking about the race matters too much, play whatever you think looks nice, it won't matter unless you push #1 on the ladder prolly. I'll probably return to male panda with an ugly mog because nothing is funnier than people getting shit on by a male panda in arenas.

cerulean mortar
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hey guys im new to warrior and i was hoping that someone here had great pvp fury macros? and guidance thanks!

craggy socket
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What’s the easiest way to switch back to my 2h after spell reflect in classic wrath?

warped warren
cerulean mortar
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can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior

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something like this plz

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/castsequence reset=20 Kidney Shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury(Racial), Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis(Night Fae), Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Mutilate, Envenom

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but i need one for fury and or arms warrior plz n ty

lucid walrus
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please be trolling

cerulean mortar
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my apologies when you say " please be trolling " what do you mean by that?

muted surge
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Is that actually something rogues use?

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Like vanish in a sequence

raw summit
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No shot

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That's swifty oneshot macro levels of bs

cerulean mortar
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3

spice hornet
raw summit
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Man's goin in

cerulean mortar
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\

spice hornet
cerulean mortar
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what do you mean good troll?

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im no troll

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i have more of those rogue oneshot macros

graceful quarry
cerulean mortar
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does anybody have any crazy fury macros or no?

graceful quarry
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yeah

cerulean mortar
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mind sharing with me?

raw summit
cerulean mortar
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im looking for a new main to play and i just boosted my warrior

graceful quarry
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don't recommend castsequence macros

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bc you won't actually understand why you are pressing things

raw summit
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It's like ccing urself by being locked into a sequence

cerulean mortar
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im not sure i understand @graceful quarry

graceful quarry
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castsequence macros arent optimal when learning a class/spec

cerulean mortar
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i like to use it so it help sme learn i kno it doesnt sound right to you but for me this shows me what to play and how you know? and i have that addon that tells me what i should cast next

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its called hekii i think

raw summit
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That's hillariously bad for pvp

dark sparrow
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Go's to show the insane skill ceiling rogue has copium

dark sparrow
graceful ginkgo
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how the fuck can ppl srsly ask for fury macros?

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fury has like 3 buttons

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gotta be a troll

dark sparrow
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Might be, the dude isn't even in the rogue discord only the DK one as far as I can tell so a sad DK troll mb

muted surge
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If I make a fury Macro for the 3 buttons can I get glad this season?

steep inlet
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they removed condemn anim on exec

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on df beta :(

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hmm its maybe related to talents bug

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nvm

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no talent work for warrior

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now it works wtf is this shit

dark sparrow
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Don't worry, all will be perfectly fixed for launch okayge

lean burrow
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imagine condemn animation for overpower

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so we can spin like beyblades the whole time

scarlet barn
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Warrior doesnt need cast sequence macros

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Prob none of the classes do tbh

rancid nymph
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So I heard orc got nerfed in pvp due to trinket set passives, should I reroll to human now or what yall doing/recommend? I'm quite the racial whore

fickle forge
# cerulean mortar but i need one for fury and or arms warrior plz n ty

I applaud this troll, and I'll give you the answer you seek as well

/castsequence reset=20 Conqueror's Banner, Recklessness, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage, Raging Blow, Raging Blow, Rampage

See the good part about this macro, is that you don't even need to control your character, it'll move for you with CB charges, so you got plenty of time to observe each and every casted spell to get the rotation down

rancid nymph
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That's very helpful thanks

spice hornet
echo kite
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do you guys use whirlwind at all in pvp? I'm new to Warrior.

raw summit
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To get stuff out of stealth and rarely to cleave hamstring as fury

echo kite
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ty

lean burrow
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then it's feelsbadman that you have to whirlwind

wheat jay
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Deserved

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For playing fury keks

lean burrow
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I'm learning all classes currently, and sub rogue with feral are so hard

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miles away from fury

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miles ahead* lmao, how do you say it?

spice hornet
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More complex than fury

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Every spec is

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Even dh and bm hunter sadly, as they have ccs they need to learn to use effectively. They’re more forgiving tho. Dumb fury warriors are easy to kite

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Meanwhile dh never gets off you and presses blur on nothing because it comes back and he can dodge from behind for some reason

bold grove
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To enjoy the last days before the eventual pre-patch I thought to assemble a full set for Arms PvP (Kyrian).

Does one just want to stack endless Versatility - Critical Strike or is there value to reaching the 20% Haste milestone?

Following that concept; this is what I manage mixing and matching with full Duelist gear.

spice hornet
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Without some haste , crit arms feels bad

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That’s good you can play kleia

fickle forge
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Think crit arms feels okay tbh

spice hornet
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For more crot

lean burrow
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I think I heard somewhere "miles" something when comparing things

warped warren
lean burrow
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Bedguh

sage raptor
lean burrow
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okayge ty fren

cerulean mortar
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why do people have to be so rude. im reporting every1 that was disrespectful.

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i dont play dk idek how ot use discord. so idk how im in a dk channel.

dark sparrow
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Well according to what I can tell, the only servers I have in common with you is this one & Archerus (the DK one) but 10/10 troll tho

sage raptor
scarlet barn
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And that , is def not rude

scarlet barn
mystic barn
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stop being rude raz

scarlet barn
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Smh

sage raptor
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Why do people want to play the race that looks like they eat boogers and also have fetal alcohol syndrome?

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Because they relate to it?

raw summit
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yes?

full quiver
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This is really helpful for new warriors

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You can swap mortal strike for rampage if you're fury

fierce elm
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@fickle forge is a troll dont worry

fickle forge
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Got me there

sage raptor
visual ocean
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Nice to know my skills are at least reasonable when it takes 2 warriors and a mage at least 30s to kill me as Prot warrior

raw summit
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tanks in pvp 🤮

visual ocean
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Not always about dealing the most damage mate

raw summit
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the entire point of pvp is killing people

wheat jay
visual ocean
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Not in the objective battlegrounds. And not like I can't kill deal a good amount of damage as well

scarlet barn
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Tank pvpers

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Smh

wet scarab
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shadowmeld during drain life ❤️

visual ocean
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So what is your take on healers in pvp?

raw summit
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required

visual ocean
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What happened to the whole point of pvp is killing people?

raw summit
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they're what makes killing people more complex and interesting

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tanks make pvp less fun and ruin the overall experience

wheat jay
ancient sonnet
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yea def goin blood elf

visual ocean
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Meaning you dislike not being able to kill tanks as easily

raw summit
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you wont change my mind so you cant stop debating

wheat jay
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Problem with tanks

raw summit
wheat jay
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They live

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Right

sage raptor
wheat jay
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Im fine with it

sage raptor
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Or rogue

ancient sonnet
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Play what you enjoy but you're gonna have a hard time finding anyone to agree that tanks are good for pvp

wheat jay
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But what if tank does top dmg, then its busted cuz it does top dmg and it never dies

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Ok what if it heals

raw summit
wheat jay
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Then it doesnt die and heals

sage raptor
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Ideally nobody I play against has fun.

lean burrow
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belf warriors purging combust

wheat jay
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Lol

thick steeple
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heroic throw should purge, hot take

wheat jay
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Nah

sage raptor
wheat jay
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I don't think warr needs a purge

raw summit
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Take so hot it ended up being cooked take instead

sage raptor
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Warr gets all the racials lol. Warrior, Undead, probably another racial idk about.

thick steeple
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Just kidding boys, chill

sage raptor
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No

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We take everything 1000%

wheat jay
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No

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We do

sage raptor
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Our egos can't handle it

thick steeple
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fax

wheat jay
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Never could

sage raptor
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Never will

wheat jay
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Amen

thick steeple
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double charge on bolt as well

raw summit
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🙏

thick steeple
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would be nice

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anyone tried arms on DF? been testing and the dmg aint there rly

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compared to some other stuff, but tuning in in stored i guess for some classes

raw summit
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You tried tide of blood yet?

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That thing fuckin shreds

wet scarab
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warrior should get lust

thick steeple
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haven't tried

wet scarab
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most appropriate lore-wise

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the brave warrior in the thick of things rallying the troops

thick steeple
thick steeple
wet scarab
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the class that has an ability called bloodthirst should have bloodlust

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also why tf do shamans get something called heroism

raw summit
wet scarab
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they aren't heroes they're in the back casting water spells

raw summit
visual ocean
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I play the way I enjoy. That is all

wheat jay
wet scarab
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battle shout is the speech before the battle

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bloodlust is theoden shouting FORTH EORLINGAS

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battle shout is the DEATH speech

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I mean hunters grant everyone lust by making their pets angry. Warriors' entire mo is literally anger management

lean burrow
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warriors howl and that breaks enemies' legs

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warriors get fear magic on themselves and then think "wait a minute, THEY must be afraid" and break fear

wet scarab
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that is pretty good

lean burrow
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warriors see a fireball flying at them and hit it back like a tennis ball

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what lore is that

wet scarab
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unless an imp hit them with a miniature fireball first

lean burrow
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100 balls on tennis court, warriors try to hit one

wet scarab
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I hope one day they'll make warrior into a God of War type character that can jump on a raid boss and stab his eye and give him a debuff

willow stratus
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Wtf are we talking about in the pvp section LOL

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Do you boys ever shattering throw cocoon in 2’s ?

lean burrow
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only if I hate myself

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tbh nothing happens when I try that, probably easier to swap

spice hornet
sharp meteor
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but generally they know you can shatter it and have a stop or two prepped

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so cocoon = off

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MAYBE go through if dampen and/or they're stuckin spear

marble marten
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@fickle forge kargrend is u?

fickle forge
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Nein

echo kite
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fury holy pala, decent comp?

nimble jasper
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for what

echo kite
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2's I mean

lean burrow
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for pain

nimble jasper
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its fine i guess

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you autolose to hunters

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imo playing with an hpal you have to play aggro

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playing a passive playstyle with that spec is asking to lose

echo kite
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thanks

sharp meteor
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hpal is so balls in 2s lmao

nimble jasper
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you prob lose by default to outlaw too

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but ehh

sharp meteor
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legit full send kill opener or go next

nimble jasper
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ye idk

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whenever i played anything with hpal

sharp meteor
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like it can work with a ww or something i think but

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hpal in general is a rough go

nimble jasper
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half hoj kill goes

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bop aggro

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etc

sharp meteor
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ya

nimble jasper
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hunter you just lose if he lands one trap

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and honestly vs bm idk if he needs to land even one

sharp meteor
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no traps gives you a tiny bit longer to maybe kill somebody but really you just lose

nimble jasper
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you can sometimes cheese bad outlaw healer teams

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with hpal war

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since rog cant peel during bop if its not priest healer

echo kite
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My goal is just 2.1 should be fine I guess

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thanks for info bruh

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😁

nimble jasper
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rough time to start lmao

echo kite
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ahh, not starting just boring of playing in my priest

nimble jasper
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2s is a boring bracket tbf

echo kite
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got 2.2 my friend doesn't want to queue this season

nimble jasper
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yah going past 2.2 in 2s is just sweatlord territory

echo kite
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3's would be fun if we had a 3rd guy

nimble jasper
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unless its unchained season where 2.4 rdruids die in opener

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love hyper inflation

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😂

echo kite
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ah yeah season 2

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sometimes we try to queue an healer but meh

nimble jasper
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dead season df waiting room

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💀

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or playing wotlk

echo kite
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y that's why I'm playing fury now, more fun than priest imo

nimble jasper
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fury is prob the most boring spec I’ve played in pvp

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actually worse than dh

echo kite
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I find disc priest to be boring af, and Boon is stupid button

nimble jasper
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so is necro fury slaughterhouse

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and just pressing 112112112

echo kite
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I'm playing Kyrian rn, might try necro later

nimble jasper
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idk fury is boring

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its just a dmg bot

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nice thing about wotlk is if I hit a mage his hp goes down and he doesnt

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just pull 3 more healthbars out of his ass

echo kite
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ah yeah.. I just got tired of getting fucked in the ass as an healer

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I'm not a good player though

nimble jasper
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yah idk rog priest is aight

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even tho sub spriest is more fun than rog healer

echo kite
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Y got my 2.2 as disc outlaw

nimble jasper
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😪

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i sleep

echo kite
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broken

nimble jasper
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i could have sworn its better with hpriest but i havent queued

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since week 2 of the ssn

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so…

echo kite
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It is

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I just prefer disc

nimble jasper
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yeah with kyrian its not bad

echo kite
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I don't rly follow meta 100%

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I also play full crit for fun

nimble jasper
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outlaw mirrors were so weird to me

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mostly because the other guy does 0 damage

echo kite
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y anyway thx. For answers will try to push that 2.1 with my hpal friend

sharp meteor
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or maybe fury has just rotted my brain

nimble jasper
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i think its the latter

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i feel plate spinning more with surv

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than outlaw

copper hare
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Literally always the same right now

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find new healer > win first 2 games > lose 2 games against outlaw/druid > healer leaves because he thinks its winnable > sit in lfg for hours again > kill yourself

spice hornet
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That’s the warrior 2s experience rn

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Been that way all season

copper hare
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I think thats usually the experience for any melee right now :D

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But it definitely gets worse and worse with people leaving after 1-2 losses, so painful

lucid walrus
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gamble, climb, backslide a little, drop group, gamble

little lava
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is it normal for feral to do half my damage as fury/feral/disc

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constantly doin 3k dps

raw summit
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i mean feral does more than just pve the opponents

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so itsok

little lava
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ye like not using defensive abilities on 2,6k mmr

raw summit
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well thats a diff thing

little lava
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but when i played against mirror

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feral did 30% more dmg

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like enemy feral 3m and mine 2m

willow stratus
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is ptr down atm?

lean burrow
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I wish I had that 5Head immense fountain of knowledge in my brain to get to 2.6k

viscid marten
lean burrow
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I started in SL s1

nimble jasper
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if not worse

viscid marten
nimble jasper
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no it was just inflated to unholy amounts

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kyrian druids made it worse

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but for warrior specific imo the most boosted season was sinful

sharp meteor
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kitty and mooner/dh was

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a little annoying

nimble jasper
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so many bad players carried by condemn sephuz orc

lean burrow
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i hope df will have a season like that

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for me to farm

nimble jasper
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assuming you played before the sitful deflation

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psure sinful was the season a few warrs got r1

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then barely get 2400 glad

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in following ssns

lean burrow
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I remember people talked about season 1 being deflated

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but idk why, it was start of expac

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how could it be deflated

nimble jasper
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blizz cut down mmr

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mid season

lean burrow
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oh that explains a lot

nimble jasper
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chances are if you q’ed post mmr deflation you lost cr

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even if you went positive

lean burrow
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blizz always ready to cut my ass

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and then i skipped season 2 like a fool

nimble jasper
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ineffable truth hpals

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and expedient warlocks

nimble jasper
viscid marten
nimble jasper
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of 2.4 unchained glads asking why are they struggling

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at 1.9k

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in a real season

viscid marten
viscid marten
lean burrow
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dragonussy

nimble jasper
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only real way you got away from expedient locks in bfa s4

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is if you played rmp

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then they too scared of being spited

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to run it

viscid marten
nimble jasper
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rmp or rmpala

viscid marten
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But again, S4 BFA was a cluster

nimble jasper
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i hated rmpala tho

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80% of hpals were boosted by ineffable and destro

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rps was the real juice

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and killing boosted ape locks in opener

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cuz they cant wall in silence

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also bomb so they cant gate

viscid marten
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All I can say is that every match I would constantly criticize myself over smoke bombing

nimble jasper
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yeah idk i had some sus bombs

viscid marten
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yeah that might have been me

nimble jasper
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my priest ditched to play mhw so i queued a few rmp games for last wins

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comp is more braindead than rps

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@lean burrow all im gonna say is

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you gotta put the games in

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esp when you’re first learning dont be surprised if you play at least 1k games

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🤷

lean burrow
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i think i got less than 1k games in last two seasons

sharp meteor
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I think that I only had like 1k played in cosmic.

nimble jasper
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you aint new tho

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i feel like your first push you have to put the games in

sharp meteor
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I only really started playing 3v3 in Corrupted.

lean burrow
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how can I check my total amount of games?

sharp meteor
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Drustvar, but it only goes back one season, I think.

nimble jasper
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tbf even 2s is a learning experience

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to some extent

sharp meteor
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Yeah, I was an epic bg and collection player. Still am, but procrastinated 3v3 for a long time.

nimble jasper
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same

lean burrow
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i just get duelist in 2s and chill on alts

nimble jasper
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i initially only did 2k 3s for elite set

sharp meteor
nimble jasper
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my rogue’s first 2k I didn’t even track drs

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so legendary

sharp meteor
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Currently Marksmanship hunter and doing like 120k dps in opener and killing 10 people every EBG

nimble jasper
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my priest just told me

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who to hit

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xd

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i was just

sharp meteor
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Yeah, back in wod I randomly got talking with some priest that's like hey u have gear

nimble jasper
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very talented

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at doing dam

sharp meteor
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he'd just feather/grip me into stuff and shout who to hit

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then lobbed me because we did a firelands mog run and my buddy life gripped him into lava

nimble jasper
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yah my first rps sesh

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my sham and priest say sit on their heals a bit

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40secs lter

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“wtf why is that guy dead?”

lean burrow
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tbh it feels like a lot of time is spent on few games

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can play 10 games but feel like 2 hours passed

nimble jasper
#

more experience you have faster your games can be

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first 2 weeks i played this season 80% of my games didnt make it to 2mins

sharp meteor
#

Yeah, lately I've just mentally afk'd if into decent players because I want 1-2 minute games

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at least in 2v2

nimble jasper
#

i havent queued lately so idk

sharp meteor
#

My healer will be on for like an hour every few days so need to make it count

nimble jasper
#

start of season i had an fury mw team decide to full sit through double resonator kyrian boon

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from outlaw hpriest

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and die opener

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well sap fear mw but i assumed one of them would trade

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and we win next setup

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but warr just fell over

sharp meteor
#

ya get me out

nimble jasper
#

lfg is the worst too tbh

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if a team is just sweaty in 2s nowadays i just do some cooked shit

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if we win cool

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maybe i play some get enchant rq before season ends

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idk i have 3 pcs of s4 gear this season is asscheeks

edgy sinew
#

hey guys - getting back to warrior - wondering if furry is looking for PVP in DF

sharp meteor
#

owo -rampages you-

raw summit
#

💀💀💀

fickle forge
#

UwU -Crushing blows you-

plush cradle
#

💀

bleak forge
#

I wanne try some Arms pvp right now on retail, What cov/stats should i go for? cuz i read alot of different things. So bassicly asking the ppl that play it seems best peepo

raw summit
#

crit or haste both works

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kyr and nl both works

spice hornet
#

How tf do eu people even play us servers? Playing wrath in Spain rn and the lag is intolerable as melee. No idea how they make it work

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Maybe playing an east US server and using some vpn service can get it to like 100ish MS? 200+ just unplayable

frozen sluice
#

whats a good ilvl to start playing some pvp? i wanna farm some Marks for tmogs

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(im fury btw)

raw summit
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Full honor gear is enough for BGs i guess

frozen sluice
#

i have like 50 honor points lmao

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i just killed some randoms in WM

raw summit
#

Id say play BGs in whatever gear you have

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Get the honor gear and game some more

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Ideally you have a pve 4p already or youll need conquest gear for that

frozen sluice
#

im at 220 or so ilvl

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doing ZM stuff on the alt

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but i will do rbgs

bright spire
#

Has anyone used the Outplayed addon or whatever it is. I think it's like a part of Overwolf. Apparently it records games in the background

past jolt
#

That’s definitely going to steal your PayPal and credit card info

bright spire
#

I thought it was free tho? I have nvidia thing but I always forget to record games or if I do remember it's nothing worthy of recording usually.

pastel sluice
#

What’s the best comp in 3s with fury ?

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For 2400+

past jolt
#

Your name is very much Belarus

fickle forge
#

You never go wrong with ret+warr and turbo

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Stack haste to infinity

bright spire
spice hornet
#

Feels good farming my wintergrasp pieces 1 mark at a time okayge

drowsy wasp
#

i feel fury/shadow/hpal is good

spice hornet
#

Wrath

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There was a bug first week of launch that you let you spam WG so people were able to get all the WG gear immediately. They fixed it but now everyone else who got to 80 can only play WG every 3 hours and if you lose you get 1 mark lol.

Need 40 for the helm for example

full quiver
#

Lol

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Didn't they nerf the amounts to make up for it

spice hornet
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They nerfed honor gear costs cause the bug but for some reason didn’t bother with the WG items they cost marks only

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Honor is easy to get lol the marks are time gated and you can legit fugged by RNG and lose multiple WG in a row

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And realistically I’d you have a life/sleep you’re not gonna be able to join every WG when it’s up

copper hare
#

less than 10 teams in 2v2 and 3v3 combined in lfg tool above 2k at 6pm EU prime time

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this is heaven.

main barn
#

anyone know of a good fury warrior streamer?

ancient sonnet
#

most of em are streaming wrath these days

raw summit
#

Mud

lean burrow
teal lintel
spice hornet
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On the flip side I’m on US realm in 0 CR 5s q, so far it’s 11mims

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For wrath ^

graceful ginkgo
#

gnome warrior looks pretty decent in the DF tier set gear

round egret
#

yo i just hit 50 with my fury warrior, have to pick an covenant now since i want to play PvP is kyrian rly the best? cuz it sounds so weak compared to necrlords as an example but im a total beginner never touched PvP so better to ask yall ^^

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i've seen the FaQ thing but i don't know if it's Updated

sage raptor
#

If people race change to the gnome meta race I'm gonna cry and piss and shit and cum.

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And sneeze and cough

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At once

raw summit
round egret
sage raptor
#

Not as interesting as you 😉

round egret
raw summit
sage raptor
round egret
#

so Hot jeez

lean burrow
spice hornet
#

When you try to look for people to play with in wrath classic

sage raptor
#

Lmaooo

lucid walrus
#

"wow you have an understanding of how the game works fuck off"

spice hornet
#

Lmao

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I’ve noticed the classicnplayed are way more toxic

lucid walrus
#

high bar but yeah

copper hare
#

pve community is usually more laid back and chill

wheat jay
#

Same with retail tbh

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Pve chill

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Pvp toxic tryhards

sharp meteor
#

Eh, I feel like it's more just the mid to mid-high but not quite high skill range

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it's like you grab somebody that's multiglad and it's a chill time then you get a 15x duelist/elite and they're just utterly deranged

wheat jay
#

I dont know too many multiglads

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But from streams

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Id say there's much higher chance that a top pvp player is toxic compared to top pve player

sage raptor
willow stratus
#

guys random question but I just hit 2100 in 3's ( finally ) and I dont have the elite sword transmog unlocked but I do have the elite two handed mace?

simple rock
#

did you upgrade one of them and receive one upgraded from vault?

willow stratus
#

yeah

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sword from vault

simple rock
#

yeah the vault is really buggy with awarding transmogs

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it sucks

willow stratus
#

if I have the conquest can I just buy it from vendor and it works?

simple rock
#

yeah

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should

willow stratus
#

lets find out

lucid walrus
#

yeah you should just have to buy it and upgrade it to duelist ilvl

willow stratus
#

wow annoying lol

lucid walrus
#

comp stomp week iirc

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afk o'clock

willow stratus
#

same with any other weapon yeah?

lucid walrus
#

yup

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armor as well

willow stratus
#

as warrior can we buy the paladin helm

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I know we can get the DK one, but the pally one actually looks cool

sharp meteor
#

Like, the vers/haste chest used pala elite appearance last seaosn, but now it's dk.

late pike
#

Gnome or NE arms? I have leveled both. Escape artist is good but SM can be also really funny and useful. Having also second thoughts about DI for the bleed removal

severe skiff
#

seems like its prob going to be meta reliant on what is the "best"

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Lot of racials, namely the ones you listed, are all looking pretty good compared to orcs now minor stun reduction benefit

sage raptor
#

I predict NE since the gnome racial is more situational.

severe skiff
#

I'm liking the look of both dwarf racials atm

lucid walrus
#

only shitty part is the icd it puts trinket on

severe skiff
#

only 30sec for dwarves tho, unlike 1min30sec of human

lucid walrus
#

yeah fair

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that's barely more than DR

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thinking on it, i always wanted dark iron to be good bc of the offensive potential of fireblood. really wild way to diversify race picks even if there'll still be a clear winner

late pike
#

@lucid walrus that is what i do not like

severe skiff
#

dark iron + badge is actually pretty massive offensively

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Human does have the option of using double dps trinket or dps + defensive trinket in situations where it would use relent on retail, in DF that is

lucid walrus
severe skiff
#

you get the 15% cc reduction/stat set bonus evne if using badge/insignia or insig/battlemaster ect

lucid walrus
#

i'm speaking from their perspective, i would've personally liked reworks as well

severe skiff
#

We still don't know if they are going to continue with the whole seasonal pvp trinket thing since even on retail they never put those in until a season starts

lucid walrus
#

i just wanna see the rewards tbh

#

obv we have the elite set but did enchants/tabards get any better

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actually regarding tabards, we might get some cool colors if they wind up sticking with the same theme of naming seasons after dragonflight colors

severe skiff
#

given the other enchants that are in DF its prob going to be an elemental themed one, and doubt it will look very good

lucid walrus
#

tragic

sage raptor
#

If it legitimately looks like fire and not a red haze, that'd be sick.

lean burrow
#

red smoke instead of cool flames

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2007-styled particles

wheat jay
#

Give me a huge pink fire effect

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Or an effect that changes color of the weapon into pink

spice hornet
#

It can’t be too cool or pve’r cry they can’t get it

wheat jay
#

they can get it

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just costs gold keks

copper hare
#

At least my expectations are really low after the last one..

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demonic tyranny was the last one that really stood out to me

wheat jay
#

s3 enchant is amazing

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what do you mean

#

s1 illussion is bis too

copper hare
#

cosmic flow looks nice, but it doesn't work properly on a lot of weapons

wheat jay
#

havent seen a weapon it doesnt work properly on yet

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it bugs in dressing room

spice hornet
copper hare
#

nvm, dreadflame was also great!

lean burrow
#

there is no addon that shows what trinkets/covenant/talents opponents have before they actually use them, is there?

raw summit
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Covenant and talents idk but gladius shows trinkets

coarse pebble
#

Hi everyone! New to the discord and looking for 2v2 advice. We run resto druid and fury warrior and are having an impossible time against windwalker monk in general. Does anyone have any tips/tricks for that matchup?

lean burrow
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shame it doesn't show trinket if target is in stealth from the start

raw summit
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Well the default cant do that so addons cant either

lean burrow
#

stun then fear asap

coarse pebble
#

Okay so it’s a pair of debuffs that we need to play around

lean burrow
#

every minute he can kill, so use trinkets every minute with healer

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rdruid can bash + incap roar

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run away from monk if he paralyses rdruid and runs towards him, he baits you to leg sweep both of you

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maybe disarm monk on his bonedust brew if you feel adventurous

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it prevents fists of fury cast

coarse pebble
#

That makes a lot of sense. Our matches have been a lot of my druid dying to earth/wind/fire and fists of fury so we never really make it past 30s

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Appreciate the help there as monks are really the only matchup we feel useless on. This gives us some direction to hopefully crack that

lean burrow
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I envy you if monks are the only class you struggle against

coarse pebble
#

Yeah we are only 1750 on this composition so it will get worse the higher we go but I have affliction solved at this rank and our hunter matchup has been good. We have a good sequence on rogue/priest now too

lean burrow
#

seramore outlaw/mw

raw summit
#

If you're beating rogue that's half the climb done

lean burrow
#

seramore surv/anything

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seramore mirror fury/rdruid glads

raw summit
#

seramore 2s in general

coarse pebble
#

Hahaha

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I shoulda joined up in here a long time ago

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Survival has been a tough one but it’s 50/50 at this rank

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No joke we are 0-14 against windwalker

copper hare
coarse pebble
#

@copper hare We play resto druid and fury warrior and just have not cracked that windwalker matchup

sharp meteor
#

Minutely stops on bonedust/keefer's/sweep/images go.

coarse pebble
#

Yeah it seems like their kill window comes back fairly quickly. Usually starts with me and the monk hitting each other and as soon as my druid comes out the monk swaps, pops everything, and my druid dies

copper hare
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Whenever your druid is close to you, he stops the first go with roar/mass root (you should still wall probably, because monk will trinket and pop). You trinket second leg sweep. Make sure you play stormbolt, also kyrian is way better into monks, if they have one brain cell they can just kite your whole banner

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use stormbolt to stop fists

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but the most important thing: your druid has to stop one go, he can't just sit back and try to heal, damage during keefers/bonedust is usally unhealable

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And stop trinketing disarm because you're horny, that's usually the worst thing you can do (I speak from experience)

coarse pebble
#

Hahaha how’d you know I do that sometimes

#

Warrior brain strikes again

copper hare
#

Because every warrior does that, low rated or r1.

coarse pebble
#

Guilty and sometimes greedy

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Thanks for the help. We will trial it and I’ll let you know how it goes. Appreciate the composition specific advice

sharp meteor
#

Think of it kind of like convoke.

coarse pebble
#

That’s a good way to look at it. I’m excited to try the matchup out more and to actually get to play for more than 30s so that I can get a feel for that

#

Same issue I had with unholy DKs but I figured that one out

sharp meteor
#

Like, ww go kills you instantly after they have their globals out, it's just a matter of using something as/after they go out to avoid getting banged, and being on the same page as to who is using what.

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Unholy is similar in that it's dt/blight/limb, then a minute later it's dt/blight, then another minute it's big go with limb again

coarse pebble
#

Awesome. Y’all have been super helpful. I at least have a game plan for WWs now so I’ll see if I can execute that

sharp meteor
#

It's just about kind of having an idea as to who is using what when

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so you aren't having to play reactively and end up over using

lean burrow
#

if you bladestorm monk's leg sweep you deserve to trinket disarm

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let druid worry about next stun

lean burrow
sharp meteor
#

roots images

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also auto stun (mika) is notable defensive

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although usually won't save by itself, can sometimes get you out of a stun to bm/rally

lean burrow
#

that's a big brain move

sharp meteor
#

ww/x just feels kind of like it depends on how patient the monk is and if they're chill with running/kiting enough then you just lose

lean burrow
#

okayge ty

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btw, I saw unholy dk's mentioned with blight-dt-abom limb

#

what's the ideal response to those?

#

stun+fear on dark transform's gcd?

sharp meteor
#

in a vacuum i usually just trade wall, use ip during reck/storm, spell reflect for the 20% wall provided it doesn't get hit off

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funny thing for dt is that you can cleave the pet down with sweeping strikes or whirlwind hits prior to dt go and if they don't dismiss the pet you can just turn and kill it after they buff it

lean burrow
#

they can instantly recall it tho

sharp meteor
lean burrow
#

does it come back unbuffed?

sharp meteor
#

psure it does and/or it ends the buff

#

anyways it scuffs the small go

raw summit
#

unbuffed yea

sharp meteor
#

most dk players don't really play dk so they dont see that pet is 40% health as dt coming back up

#

and ofc their healer won't heal it so you just turn and 2-hit it

#

they won't kill/abandon and resummon pet prior to go

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USUALLY

lean burrow
#

but usually people I lose to are gladiators in deflated seasons

sharp meteor
#

also u kind of cycle through mobility, root break, reflect, etc, to maintain uptime on DK because they WILL chains and walk away outside of cds or you beat their head in

lean burrow
#

what about fear then? save it for apocalypse ghouls?

raw summit
#

cant fear undead, no?

lean burrow
sharp meteor
#

can fear their pets ya

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or healer offensively

lean burrow
#

all this time i thought they scatter like monk's gang

sharp meteor
#

in 2v2 i feel like dk usually free unless u disrespect limb go, or have to wall the dt go

lean burrow
#

gladiator dks permaslow and deadzone me all game around pillars

#

it was one game last season but I still remember it

raw summit
#

deadzone feels so bad

sharp meteor
#

ya which is why it's like u cycle through storm, reflect, bloodrage, stun, etc

lean burrow
#

ok, ty guys

sharp meteor
#

you may not have 100% uptime but you will always have uptime with cds

lean burrow
#

what do I reflect?

sharp meteor
#

ideally asphyx but it also gets chains

#

which costs a rune and means it doesn't apply to you

#

idea is to avoid being 70% chained and waddling around doing no dmg to dk until his cds are back

lean burrow
copper hare
lean burrow
#

I heard that monk trinketting fear also frees his clones from fear

#

isn't it the same with roots?

sharp meteor
#

buggy ass weeb spec

lean burrow
nimble jasper
#

xuen is usually a bait cd

bright spire
#

guys I got lucky and invited in 3s for some turbo with rdruid. they're both glads what do I do lol.

thick palm
#

Press all ur buttons

bright spire
#

ay, figured

raw summit
#

if they like what ur doing add them to bnet and queue with them more

bright spire
#

well fingers crossed I dont have to do big plays

#

and they carry me

#

hope so

#

I guess they liked my note

shy aurora
#

If im not fully geared by now, is there Even a Point?

sharp meteor
bright spire
#

ty ty I inted already

#

tough to learn a comp at 2.2k rating no voice

#

but healer added haha

#

so I'd say progress

willow stratus
#

what are you playing at 2.2k?

sharp meteor
#

big big

willow stratus
#

2.2k is super high rn

sharp meteor
#

always nice to get healer tags

willow stratus
#

I just pushed to 2.4k and it was brutal

bright spire
#

I played tsg and with outlaw for 2.2k

#

then got current glad enha in grp and I fucked it

sharp meteor
#

hoping 2 week announcement results in uptick of queues as people wrap up mounts

#

i think im like 2360 or something

bright spire
#

but do we want the giganerds back from wortk?

#

wont it just be harder?

sharp meteor
#

idk queues is queues if anything the nerds the ones not playing wotlk

bright spire
#

since only top of ladder will increase

#

fair, fair

#

first season of 3v3 and I heard it's the hardest so unlucky a bit

#

apparently I'd already have a mount if I played 3s in s2

#

assuming I played at similar skill level

#

@willow stratus gz, what are you playing?

sharp meteor
#

especially if u played something like kitty or retwarr

bright spire
#

I guess part of being glad is the social engineering of getting 2 more people of prefered classes to play PvP seriously

#

who are also somewhat decent at the game

sharp meteor
#

yeah, without regular partners you can languish in the finder for ages

#

shuffle is going to be cool because you'll just be able to throw your body at games 24/7

bright spire
#

exactly, I'll spam that soloQ like no tomorrow

#

I hope since R1 is available for it, maybe mounts will to

sharp meteor
#

ye glad equivalent would be sick

bright spire
#

They can just give the same mount tbh. Can't think of a reason as to why not

#

Aside from people who have a team thinking it somehow invalidates their "lfg" mount.

young ember
#

in resources here it says arms is best melee right now

#

but everywhere else prefers fury

#

how come?

sage raptor
#

Bias

simple rock
#

was this an EU thing?

sharp meteor
sage raptor
#

Me

sharp meteor
#

am i losing my mind

simple rock
#

I quit 2months into unchained after glad

#

swear I didn't see any kitty

sharp meteor
#

okay yeah kyrian leggo didn tpop up until later in season

#

then dh/mooner and kitty took over the ladder in the span of like 2-3 weeks

simple rock
#

ahh

sharp meteor
#

empower gave like 20% vers

#

so chad necro warr just split nerds in half

simple rock
#

sounds fun tbh

sharp meteor
#

it looked fun into i imagine everything other than retwarr

#

but games were like retwarr, kitty, dhmooner, jungle, rmp

#

was fun seeing another turbo every 50 games or so

fickle forge
young ember
#

who do I blame here?

#

what mod do I @?

sharp meteor
#

Arms is fine/good, but I think Fury is better, at least in general. Probably in most or every comp but eh.

copper hare
#

More like.. arms into melee cleaves, fury better into wizards/rmp

sharp meteor
#

fury into rm?

copper hare
#

From my experience yes. You can wall in stun, you have bloodrage and you can talent into heal when you play kitty or with outlol

#

arms just dies in stuns, def stance is fucking trash

sharp meteor
#

actually ye bloodrage is rather nice

#

get every frost nova

copper hare
#

Nothing is worse than facing rmp and sitting a full nova everytime, bloodrage is heaven.

fickle forge
lean burrow
#

Imagine how crowded this channel will be on DF release

green wyvern
#

unless warrior turns out to be trash tier

nimble jasper
#

people play wow expansions at launch

#

same way people get gym memberships for new years

nimble jasper
#

and already wanted to puke

#

mostly about rdruid players

#

rdruid wizard players esp are subhumans

gritty hinge
#

Hey im looking for someone to practice pvp with more like learn pvp actually since im fairly new to wow i main a fury warrior and im on stormrage

lean burrow
#

no region

#

no faction

#

"if it's not mentioned it's 100% NA"

nimble jasper
#

faction doesn't matter now but its w/e

#

bad season to try starting

bright spire
#

When do people usually start doing sessions for R1? Last day, last week?

#

Top of EU ladder hasn't changed in like a month if not more

wheat jay
#

when blizz announces end of season

#

usually 2 weeks

hushed grove
#

Hello how warriors look in DF?

sharp meteor
#

This season is kind of the perfect storm of reasons to not play, though.

#

Few balance tweaks, minimal catchup buffs, no changes to gear scaling with ranking, no new elite set, new illusion isn't fantastic, wrath just came out, season won't be inflated due to length meaning no freebie glad, glad color isn't exceptional, etc, etc.

wheat jay
#

there's new illusion?

sharp meteor
#

Yes, and new lookalike elite pieces.

#

It's not exactly compelling enough for most people, though.

bright spire
#

@sharp meteor Ty ty.

#

And Artji too, didn't notice at first.

sharp meteor
#

Honestly the illusion itself is fine, just...too subtle to be a PvP one.

wheat jay
#

send pics xD

raw summit
#

Well for classes that arent mail

#

You get the other half of the color

sharp meteor
#

They use the class elite appearance but without the class restriction.

#

Last season they used roughly half the sets, this season they used the other half.

wheat jay
#

oh that

#

ok ok

waxen thunder
#

what was it that made fury war pop off so hard in pvp? back in my day it was arms all the way

wheat jay
#

i got full shaman set on hunter last season

#

cuz it was only 2 sets xD

waxen thunder
#

oh interesting

spice hornet
#

Any wrath bois know which dragon eyes JC gem I should be using for arms? 3x str or 3x crit?

#

I’d ask in fight club but something is broken with their discord where I can’t see any chat channels

spice hornet
#

what's the logic on not using Armor Pen or Crit? Not enough value in early on gear? @copper hare

copper hare
#

Yep no armor pen before like season 3

spice hornet
#

ty for that very very helpful

willow stratus
#

can the warbringer root crit?

lucid walrus
#

… the root?

willow stratus
#

the damage from the talent

#

i mean

lucid walrus
#

yeah

willow stratus
#

in disc/fury vs fury/rdruid

#

can I try to go on the rdruid or impossible to stick to them if they are good

#

really struggle to beat rdruid/warr as fury/disc

#

is it just that much better

#

any tips

#

2.1k mmr

pastel sluice
#

can try to play leap leggo

willow stratus
#

dont think thats worth it

nimble jasper
#

disc fury isnt exactly a good comp

willow stratus
#

is rdruid best healer for fury in 2's?

#

and or is holy better

nimble jasper
#

probably tho its fucking 2s

#

🤡 bracket

#

just die to outlaw or surv anyway

sharp meteor
#

playing outlaw into fury feels so incredibly relaxing and free it's unreal

willow stratus
#

we were beating a lot of outlaws/surv at 2.1

#

literally lost to palumor on his warrior with rdruid multiple times tho

nimble jasper
#

sit on his healer

#

and toggle on bladeflurry

#

fury mw is prob decent

willow stratus
#

any good r1 warr streamers to watch other than mud

nimble jasper
#

prob all on classic

shy aurora
lean burrow
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people on reddit say "just swap on cenarion ward" but under perma hamstring that's just "do nothing"

nimble jasper
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force enemy rdruid to move off pillar

lean burrow
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still can't stick to rdruid, unless on cds

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or maybe swap on storm bolt every 30 sec?

nimble jasper
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you cant stick on rdruids

lean burrow
nimble jasper
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very few specs can

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dh outlaw survi

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prob only 3 melee

lean burrow
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I played rdruid-fury too and every mirror game is long and hard

nimble jasper
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yeah you ideally want to hit someone else

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so he gives hots around

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and burns more mana

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fury disc isnt good tho

lean burrow
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but how do I make them spend hots on themselves?

nimble jasper
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swap them

lean burrow
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they just turn bearform and pepeLaugh at me

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or run away

nimble jasper
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idk you can bonk them in stormbolt

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as your priest boons

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if you play with a non aggro priest well

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afk go next

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find a better priest

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idk

lean burrow
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sorry, I'm different guy, without priest healer

nimble jasper
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yeah fury rdru sounds sleeper

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af

lean burrow
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so keep bolt for swaps on druid against rdruid-fury?

nimble jasper
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you can

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idk mud explained it best

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fury mirrors are stupid

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and pve races

lean burrow
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i should just watch mud's vods then

nimble jasper
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fury in 2s

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is just boring

lean burrow
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or wait for DF and hope for the best

nimble jasper
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idk how people play it

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arms you can do plays

lean burrow
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no rets/enhs in lfg, so was forced to play 2s

nimble jasper
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dead season

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idk other specs I feel you can do things

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fury is just slam crushing blow into rampage

lean burrow
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last time I played fury was like 2-3 weeks ago

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I'm learning other specs

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even dh is more fun ngl

nimble jasper
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dh

green wyvern
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arms > any other melee

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true or true

spice hornet
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Any good macro for learning arms?

graceful ginkgo
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Jeah macro IP and MS together

lean burrow
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/castsequence reset=45 charge, storm bolt, sharpen blade, avatar, warbreaker, mortal strike, ignore pain, hamstring, overpower, overpower, mortal strike, overpower, slam, overpower, mortal strike, overpower, overpower

fickle forge
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Gottem

fickle forge
lean burrow
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I will play rdruid in DF

elfin surge
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biiiig damage

fickle forge
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Go away WotLK gamer

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Come back when you wanna hang with the retail arms Chads

elfin surge
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jk pvp chat is unmoderated 😎

warped warren
fickle forge