pvp

[near delta]

Ah was talking to that guy asking for help vs kitty cleave

[past jolt]

Ohhh

Read outta context my bad!

Still whoever was asking

Then boomies high on dps tunnel then they’ll be casting slow

[spice hornet]

rip this season is over for me nobody in lfg to finish glad wins keep tanking in and out of it and going to spain for 2 months

[copper hare]

it's brutal right now for sure

we're 2.3 and already have 5-10 min queue time and only face the same 2-3 teams, lfg is dead, impossible to play alts, there is literally NO healers in this game

[lucid walrus]

we played at like 2-3 last night but still 3min queues are staggering for 2kish mmr

[sage raptor]

Dragonlands looking real juicy right now

[copper hare]

Yeah and DF will have a lot of players again. Naxx will come out, people will realise how boring that shit is and that besides loggin in for 2 hour raid per week and some arena there is literally nothing do, then at the same time DF pre patch will hit

But season 4 will probably stay dead, I don't even think any team goes over 3k in EU

[sage raptor]

Df will also be a lot more alt friendly since there's no crazy system.

So that helps

Isn't EU alliance super dead rn?

[copper hare]

can you imagine buying gear with your alt and not having to farm 100k honor first?

[sage raptor]

Ohhh yes

[copper hare]

well eu horde is dead.. and alliance is probably worse xd

[sage raptor]

Oooof lol

You know it's bad when people from retail migrate to classic prepatch

[copper hare]

at prime time there is max 30 listed teams in 3v3 lfg, and literally nobody finds healers

and 80% of them are below 2k

[elder wigeon]

season 4 will pick up a lot in october

towards the end of the season

but right now people are sweating in pre patch for no good reason

[copper hare]

imagine farming full bis gear on your dk for leveling when you already oneshot any mob xd

[simple rock]

[spice hornet]

rps shits on me so hard

i swear thats just kill fury in opener comp

[elder wigeon]

warrior killer comp

[spice hornet]

very unfun comp for me to face

just feels like im perma dead to npcs/dots

[full quiver]

Lol

[kindred tapir]

Does Necro and Kyrian preform equally for fury in 2v2, or is one slightly better?

[elder wigeon]

matchup dependent

[slate arrow]

How to deal with demonhunter+rdruid in 2s?

2k rating

or rather, what's the secret to killing dhs?

feels like dh never die, something that makes them heal or take less damage when they consume the big demon?

[wheat jay]

Big demon heals them

When they kill it

And again when they collect the soul it drops

[slate arrow]

how to deal with them, against say rdrud dh as warrior rdruid?

[fickle forge]

Regular swaps

And accepting you picked an ultra damp comp so you'll be brawling it out for a while

[slate arrow]

what comp would you recommend for more fast paced? disc?

[fickle forge]

Anything but Rdruid and MW

[slate arrow]

do you guys have any warrior streamer that I can study? that spams both 2s and 3s - not just 3s exclusively

[raw summit]

There is some in the FAQ channel

Id recommend Mudcx

[slate arrow]

thank you, couldn't find it

will check mudcx out

[elder wigeon]

magnusz is pretty much the best 2's player in NA

one of the best warriors period

[slate arrow]

cheers, I'll check him out too

Is the conduit Viscous Contempt a hidden secret for 2s? and how does it change our rotation, hit blood thirst on CD below 35%?

Vicious*

[raw summit]

Dont think it is

But you do prio VC Bt over rb in pve

So probably same here

[past jolt]

Raging blow spam

It adds to the re-you know what play style

[full quiver]

If it blows up on you, you get hit with fierybrand and do 45% or so less dam to them for 6s and if they took leech they get 2 big heals from it

[latent mountain]

which spec is superior

[sage raptor]

Prot

Ask @elfin surge

[warped warren]

[wild phoenix]

i have a question. what does it mean i need 40 renown to upgradae my pvp gear past stage 4?
I'm maxed on my cov

seems i have to do some cov quest. ill leave my question up incase i'm wrong about fixing that issue

[warped warren]

theres a quest to pick up at the cov hall

battlefield veteran or smth

[wild phoenix]

yessir i found it

one of those things where i typed the question in, tabbed to the game and said "hmm lemme go look at that ! over there"

answered my own question minutes after asking lol

[sharp meteor]

knocking druid out of tranq is decent

ideally drag dh near druid so you can swap off blur/hots

[past jolt]

You’ve got litteral weeks until that’ll never happen again namely bc all Druids can take inner peace now huge buff to them as it aligns with trinket now and makes them immune to EVERYTHING during tranq at a very low opportunity cost vs SL ( inner peace shared a row with double rejuv and flourish ) AND phial goes away

[sharp meteor]

yeah and in bfa dh had blade dance dodge what's your point

[past jolt]

Dh Druid will always be a problem for warrior imo it gets worse in DF with dhs no longer needing to choose between major throughout picks in the PvP tree (mortal dance, ms on blade dance and isolated prey moved to spec tree) allowing them to easily play glimpse and rain edit: demonic origins in spec tree too!!

Should suggest strategies that don’t involve knock backs

In general, it’s a waste of time for ppl to learn the SL stuff like covenants and conduits that are being removed shortly

[spice hornet]

i think all u can do into dh/rdruid 2s is swap a lot and try to gib one of them (most likely DH) outside of their tranq immune/blur

i did beat a 2500 mmr one this way, killed DH

he whispered me said I got lucky so idk. its such an annoying matchup

feel like if they fixed blur to only be 50% or w/e it wouldnt be so bad. that dodge is just so brain dead especaiilly since its omnidirectional

[lean burrow]

maybe it's just for lore

makes sense for dhs to dodge from all sides

[copper hare]

Blur also still has 360 dodge, which is really weird. Also played some dh and back then you could literally just blade dance and blur, turn your back to your enemy and not worry about getting hit at all

[spice hornet]

kekw 2-15 this week from trying to LFG 2.4

[wheat jay]

OOF

[spice hornet]

all the ppl i usually play with on wotlk classic

[near delta]

What's more fun than spamming AV?

[sharp meteor]

I am pretty sure you could step kidney blade dancing DHs

but Blur is omnidirectional, yeah, and giving 80% for some reason

so Blur is (almost always) just a "off" button

[frank knoll]

Man I hope we don’t have another burst 1 shot meta in DF

One shotting someone isn’t even fun

[copper hare]

I don't mind a faster pace game but SL for sure slaughtered healers, like there is no healers queuing anymore

[frank knoll]

I don’t mind one shot that much if it’s something that takes a lot of set up

[sharp meteor]

bodying people in the opener is funny.

also smashing unranked players in bgs like the bugs they are is funnier

[copper hare]

But let's be honest, cooldowns are just too strong, both offensive and defensive cds

[sharp meteor]

Health pools are just too low right now.

[frank knoll]

But cheesy stuff like S1 sub is just unfun for everyone imo

[sharp meteor]

Bump those up a bit and nobody dies again.

[copper hare]

And damage outside of cooldowns is soo low that you can't even punish healers even if you kick them on low hp

and I also hate any kind of passive heals when people drop below a certain percentage

[sharp meteor]

Damage outside CDs feels reasonably high.

[frank knoll]

I’m hearing arcane mage is actually busted in the Beta

Can poly while moving. Has DB now

Can do some cheesy 1 shot stuff too

[copper hare]

Druid passive frenzy reg heal was probably the most obnoxious conduit this expansion

[frank knoll]

Yeah they nerfed it how many times? Lol

[copper hare]

Specially before the nerfs

[frank knoll]

It’s still strong, esp if they’re Necrolord

I remember some of them playing the barkskin leggo and being straight up immortal

[indigo barn]

Was fighting a rogue in open world PvP on beta. Took around 30 seconds for either to die with full defensive cooldown usage

Also, outlaw rogues feel very Killable on the beta as a warrior

[past jolt]

Idk think they just counter arms warrior but i don’t really know about s4 anymore, I left for wrath

Dh rdruid

[elder wigeon]

you can beat dh rdruid for sure

[copper hare]

I mean kyrian cov right now is a little over the top :D

[sharp meteor]

blowing up rdruid in a spear is decent

as is dh if they int blur somewhere

what's tragic is having to burn something to force blur then not having anything to hit into the hots with if the druid is spacing reasonably

[copper hare]

It also really depends on what healer you play with. I didn't lose to dh when I played with rsham, but playing with hpala for example is an insta logout

[sharp meteor]

oh ya dh eats hpal

hpal in general kind of eh

maybe it's diff as arms but fury feels like you have to get major value off first spear/conq usually with like offensive bop or something

or you just fall apart

[copper hare]

Also a lot of healers start playing for themselves in 2s, like running away with dh while enemy druid is rooting you open field and they keep kiting you

[copper hare]

arms eats dh tbh, it's disgusting what you do to them

[nimble jasper]

half the outlaw tree doesnt work on beta

so this is a bad measurement

[sharp meteor]

isn't sl tier/conduit/leggo stuff still functional in prepatch

[nimble jasper]

so many NYI and not functioning talents

[indigo barn]

What major ones arnt working yet?

[nimble jasper]

greenskins

[indigo barn]

But cdr and cc is working fine?

[nimble jasper]

forget what else

pve stuff

[indigo barn]

Hmmmm ok

His tankiness felt reasonable

Also I was in a full leveling meme spec

So not bolt + disarm

[copper hare]

all 3 shaman specs get lasso in their general tree, that's... interesting

[near delta]

Enh with lasso is absolutely nasty

[raven sorrel]

So I’m coming from playing resto/elemental shaman and wanted to play warrior for once. Having a ton of fun leveling as fury. I started looking up PvP guides and everything I’ve seen says they are either total crap, or somewhat okay in PvP. Is it just comp that’s an issue sometimes, or are they hot garbage?

[deep mulch]

Pulling roughly 1m dps an arena on average if both openers are countered, and I STILL feel like I do no damage/cant punish a healer. It's absolutely demoralizing to throw hundreds of rage into a rsham/disc priest and they just full health on casts I cant interrupt.

..and wtf is the overloaded kit that is DH? shits bonker.s

[lean burrow]

don't interrupt and let them fake cast

it's almost like additional healing reduction

[lean burrow]

guides might be outdated

[deep mulch]

True, but the instant heals feel insane.

Perhaps its lack of experience on warrior, but it feels pretty hard to pressure kills. unno

[nimble jasper]

lack of experience in general

1m dps would not be healable

you arent doing damage where it matters

[deep mulch]

yeah, just came back from not playing for a long time. a lot of rust to shake off. im running ret/fury and playing impeding, so im thinking im not cycling cds enough for trinks/defensives and its just leading into a lot of countered gos.

[nimble jasper]

have to cc so they need to trade to stop goes

idk double dps is easier to force cds as

[deep mulch]

yeah, but my rets complaining about his own survivability, and not being able to dump HP into goes.

[nimble jasper]

you cant tank enemy cds

as double dps

disc is prob the easiest healer to train

[deep mulch]

yeah, just feels like a hard meta for double donkey dps.

My ranging blows feel so tiny, like a good crit is 12k.

[nimble jasper]

bad gear

[steel rune]

who this fury war playing with a prot

[sharp meteor]

idk but times are tough so i can't blame anybody for queuing with a tank

[warped warren]

prob @elfin surge

[simple rock]

infamous tank lover Mud

[spice hornet]

I believe that’s Muds alt

[lean burrow]

try chad arms instead

[glass orchid]

Such a struggle bus as warrior into all these fucking aff lock ele Druid teams

Feel like it’s a 90% loss matchup whenever we q into it as ret war priest

Literally can’t crit as ret war so have 0 pressure

[copper hare]

Yes, it's the priest. Priest really struggles into wizard atm, specially disc

Ret war is a night n day difference with rdruid or even rsham

[lean burrow]

could you explain why pls?

I'm learning

[slate arrow]

friends - against what comps do you go stormbolt over double time in 2s? Watched alot of Mudcx vods and feels like he goes double time warbringer against pretty much everything (sometimes impending against double dps)

[warped warren]

@elfin surge cx

[wheat jay]

"double time warbringer is better for boosting viewers" is what he said if I remember correctly

[tribal torrent]

any venthyr players?

[elfin surge]

double time is fun and nobody will stop me from playing it

[fickle forge]

Don't you need two to double time?

[wheat jay]

Ye, but was what I said wrong?

You did say its easier to boost with it

[elfin surge]

ye

[wheat jay]

Yep

[deep mulch]

Doesn't the Chad spec need a hot babe to heal for him though? My ret partner is already complaining about survivability.

[lean burrow]

[past jolt]

Double time warbringer is fun

[graceful ginkgo]

Best Partner for Arms in WOTLK 2s? HPala?

[wild phoenix]

Dk. Get carried to a title and mount

Unless wotlk new isn't like it was when it actually released and the dk isn't a god

[warped warren]

hpal, yes

[raw summit]

It's releasing on the 3.2 balance patch iirc

[craggy socket]

yeah its end patch wrath

dk still good, but not god tier

[marble bone]

Got so sad when I realized they did that in TBC, wanted to play my nostalgic double Adrenaline Rush mace rogue spec 😦

Wont even touch wotlk I think, keep the nostalgic memories clean and crisp

[past jolt]

No idea

[past jolt]

Thought it was 3.3.5

[raw summit]

Its not 3.0 that's all ik

[past jolt]

Yeah it’s 3.3.5

So dks aren’t as powerful

[craggy socket]

Just play rogue

they're insanely broken per usual

[inner sigil]

what is the best arms legendary pvp

[spice hornet]

The only one people use anymore is enduring

Nearly mandatory

Otherwise you sit at the bottom of the meters because honk honk weakaura tells the FOTM rogue to disarm you when you press WB

[lavish ember]

I've noticed more players playing fury kyrian. That better or equal to necro now?

[spice hornet]

Depends on comp kinda equal

[inner sigil]

i see more fury necro

and i was a fury main

necro superior

anyways.

who is the best arms pvp warrior?

in duels'

[raw summit]

Warrior sucks in duels no matter who u are

[inner sigil]

dang even fury?

[raw summit]

Yea

[inner sigil]

btw ik ur just torlling

im a goated arms and fury player

my burst is insane

[raw summit]

Im not trolling warrior is actually trash in 1v1

[inner sigil]

not 4 me

[raw summit]

Then you arent dueling good players

[inner sigil]

nah

i got a 76k troll warrior

i dominate 100ks

LOL

im a extremely goated warrior

my main warrior is insanely good

100k hp so much damage

30k mortal strikes

[raw summit]

Yea you definitely know ur shit, sure sounds like it

[inner sigil]

learn how to pvp

gtfo

[raw summit]

Hope u can come up with a funnier bit cuz this aint it bro

[inner sigil]

necro arms is meta

spear of bastion is shit

in duels

[sharp meteor]

Good thing duels aren't relevant.

[spice hornet]

1V1 BRACKET WHEN?!! -rogue player

[craggy socket]

hahaha

[fickle forge]

Warr is thrash in duels

End of story

[raw summit]

No karg we all just suck

GROMMASH HELLSCREAM the 76k troll warrior is just better than us all

[elfin surge]

@inner sigil is playing minecraft pog

[raw summit]

Bet he's 1v1 king there too

[elfin surge]

Loves duels, talks shit, plays minecraft

i say he's 15

[near delta]

I'm glad I didn't really talk to people on the internet when I was 15 lmao

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/xcbmey/the_bloodthirsty_premade_looking_for_alliance/ Are pre-made random bg groups a thing lol

[sharp meteor]

Oh, yeah.

There's like whole communities who only do epic bgs.

Have as many 5 mans queue at once, take pop if you all get it, have 30-40 people in the same bg

[full quiver]

I've lucked in to one of those before

Really good honor

[near delta]

Requiring 2400 xp seems special lol

[sharp meteor]

Eh. I ran a lot of random bgs with three other locks in bfa and we'd just walk into the middle of each map and instantly kill anything that got within range.

There aren't many geared/exp'd people who do a lot of bgs.

[lucid walrus]

bgs would be dead if they weren’t a necessity in SL

[spice hornet]

That’s prolly why they weren’t gonna remove upgrades in SL

[near delta]

I guess they'll be mostly for people that care about upgrading pve ilvl in DF

[honest mantle]

Hey guys can someone explain me night fae arms in arena? i need specific gear without haste to play it? It is better than kyrian?

[spice hornet]

You don’t play it because it’s a meme and if you do you probably want some sort of mastery stack with crit or something . It’s bad play kyrian

[honest mantle]

ok thanks bro

[wheat crane]

Lmfao

What why would you be required 2400/current duelist for regular bgs

"I got kicked from my 5 man random wsg premade group for not being duelist this season"

I cant man this is peak shitlord stuff

[wheat jay]

Best is speed enchants and gems so you can run to swap to necro or kyrian as fast as possible

[near delta]

Maybe they want rbgers with hero of the alliance lol

For fried random bgs

[wheat jay]

Just pugs being retarded nothing new lol

[near delta]

Like when you see someone at 1600 saying they need a 2.4xp dps and healer and they've got 1.8 xp

[wheat crane]

I mean this is worse

Its regular battlegrounds

[wheat jay]

I meaaaaaaan

You know

When I was at like 1800 or so

In s2

Me and Kargish were looking for a healer

And Kargish put 2.5k xp kfc in the desctiption

Which was total bullshit since I had 2k xp from legion and he never played KFC before

But we found 2.5kxp disco and got glad with him

[near delta]

Ayy lol

[thick reef]

war is shit in duels

end of

story

[wheat jay]

Funny thing, we plan to push to glad in s1 Dragonflight playing KFC again

Same squad

[thick reef]

prob around taht i feel like hes maybe 12 and just got into warrior

[wheat jay]

Y'all laugh

Good

That's laughable

BUT

Remember we all started with duels

[thick reef]

true

i died at the part where he said he destroys 100k as 76k and hes a god at warrior

also saying nerco arms is meta killed me

[wheat jay]

It is what it is

[thick reef]

yea

sometimes trolls just are weird

[wheat jay]

Ye, weird

@elfin surge like Mud

[thick reef]

True mud is a troll and he's a weirdo

Prot paly

[raw summit]

Mud isnt a troll he's an orc

Smh get it right man

[thick reef]

LOL

true

[past jolt]

He’s not stormforged

[wheat crane]

Ngl wrath is shadily entertaining, this will definitely hold me over till df

Like you dont need cooldowns to kill people

3 shot cloth

Quite entertaining

[obsidian loom]

Is this a Mich alt

[frank knoll]

Only thing about wrath is, a lot of classes feel clunky

[raw summit]

Dont do my boy Mich like that

[nimble jasper]

i aint sketchy enough to play a male orc

that dares to stand up straight

[raw summit]

Yknow the cringe thing is

[nimble jasper]

zug zug me neanderthal

[frank knoll]

My frost mage rotation is literally:frost bolt

[raw summit]

This who wins X vs Y shit

Got them warned on main wow discord

Idk kinda fried they keep spamming that

[raw summit]

Still is

[frank knoll]

Yeah maybe when I hit 70 it’ll be better. Also DK is cracked and kills u in like 2 abilities

[raw summit]

I did entire dk zone without talents

Kinda stupid class

Was just fine like that too

Giga fried

[frank knoll]

I heard arms might be good in duels in 10.0

[nimble jasper]

duels are so irrelevant

[frank knoll]

Who cares they’re fun

Don’t have to have a virtual rating attached to everything you do

[sage raptor]

This is the warrior discord

Our egos are so high we need to flex everywhere possible

/flex

[wild phoenix]

/flex

[nimble jasper]

duels entirely are for flex tho

1v1 is dumb

[elder wigeon]

I'd prefer a version of wow where every class and spec has a good amount of utility and sustain to the point where you feel like you have the tools to world pvp

only time where it felt like you could world pvp/duel proficiently as every spec of the game, was mop

[frank knoll]

MOP second wind

[nimble jasper]

mop second wind was dumb

[frank knoll]

Arena is for flex too, you can flex you epeen rating on everyone whenever they point out a mistake

[nimble jasper]

how to:make montages of 1vXing 1400 players

in random bgs

[frank knoll]

You can still do that today on Arms

[elder wigeon]

yeah not really if it's a true 1vx

you should just die insta

[twin sinew]

Is necro fury or kyrian fury tankier? Playing with a DH so I tend to be target

[nimble jasper]

necro

[twin sinew]

ty ty

[past jolt]

Not warrior

Sweeping strikes with glyph is better than retail

No fucking gcd

Rage gen just sucks rn

Will get good later

[near delta]

Man fuck wrath lol

[past jolt]

I always am the guy who said f classic over retail but wrath is just good enough and retail is just bad enough rn that it’s working out

[near delta]

Nah I actually am really enjoying wrath warrior

But like I wait in queue for 3 hours

Then my internet goes out for a couple minutes

Now another 3 hour queue

Can play for 30 minutes before I go to work

*go to bed for work tomorrow

[past jolt]

A good balanced east coast server is wind seeker

Sometimes a few min q

[near delta]

Pretty worried about joining any non pvp server since there's no cross realm as of yet

[past jolt]

One of my 3 warrs is there

[near delta]

For ranked

[past jolt]

If you do I’m more than happy to help u get started my warr is called mortal wounds there

[near delta]

Thanks!

[past jolt]

I work 60 hrs a week from home so I get u

[near delta]

I've tried out all the pvp servers at prime time the other day and they're all terrible

[past jolt]

I had to leave my precious dwarf and orc on faerlina and benediction to the side for now

[inner sigil]

duels>arenas

[near delta]

Feels like actual launch is gonna be unsustainable

[past jolt]

What a useless comment

If I were a mod you’d be timed out

[inner sigil]

if u were a mod

youd be a L

[simple rock]

[inner sigil]

lol

[simple rock]

wrath is gonna be fun, but the current queue system is a nightmare

[spice hornet]

Jajaja grobb had a 3k q at 12:30 pst the other day when I tried

Was on a weekday too

[elder wigeon]

I really wish they'd listen and bring back bc/wrath second wind

[simple rock]

yeah i'm on grobb

it's fucked

bc/wrath second wind wouldn't have amazing value in retail tbh

barely heals and the rage gen will not be needed since ignore pain is going away

[near delta]

Yeah I'm on grobb

[fickle forge]

Gamer spec
https://app.squadov.gg/share/NoncoherentlySnakySofia

Sees Warbanner
Doesn't give 2 fucks and does half a kidney + duel anyway
Almost kills in half a stun

[spice hornet]

lmao wtf

their dmg is insane rn

dont see ppl crying about it for some reason

[fickle forge]

Now that's an insane gamer rotation right there

Pressing 1 damaging button

[spice hornet]

jajajajj

[fickle forge]

You'll prob love this too @steep inlet

[spice hornet]

spec is sooo busted

[nimble jasper]

now thats what i call a 4p proc

i remember some idiots early s3 were trying to argue with me that the 4p wouldnt be that good

“cuz you lose some vers mast”

[spice hornet]

Sub rouge 4 pc no good it break cc

Wish arms 4 pc actually did something

[nimble jasper]

except it didnt

I literally tested it first month of the season doing an rbg for cap

anytime the proc went off dam was unreal

"theres no way this is bad"

Although not as bad as first month assa where you killed any rsham 2nd vendetta sepsis always

[spice hornet]

Lol yup I just remember early s3 subs saying not to use it kek

[spice hornet]

Pretty much what NL assass does rn

Anytime I zone into the arena as fury and I see Assass or spriest (or both on the same team) I just know I’m not going to enjoy playing. Might as well just alt f4

[nimble jasper]

NL assa is funny to me

because i was literally saying playing long kidney as assa in s2 as necro was big dam

but people said im dumb and mfd is better

now people playing NL assa with 7s kidney

[spice hornet]

Yep CP generation is no problem when you have a million bone spikes to shove

[near delta]

Just not gonna have conq boxes this season I guess? Alts are completely unplayable rn

[sharp meteor]

All raids open tomorrow with fated so maybe then.

and yeah alts are a rough go

[craggy socket]

Nobody is really playing retail atm

None of my friends lol I guess only like 2-3 ppl worked on retail lol

Season 4

[short sable]

All raids fated?

[craggy socket]

Anyone got any good arms DF builds they can share?

[spice hornet]

MMM AV spamming on wrath in fear of getting a non participation. Ban for a month first time offense is BiS

Why do they ban for half assing random bgs in classic anyway. Who gives a fk. If they’re gonna do that at least ban on retail too

Getting a full greens/blues max level in your team is like having an afk person anyway

On both versions

[near delta]

Cause the bans are automated so blizz just bans if you get enough mass reports

Really dumb

[near delta]

That would make sense

[frank knoll]

I don’t understand why they’d ban someone for that in the first place, does that break ToS?

[warped warren]

afking?

youre basically griefing

[sharp meteor]

Because you're ruining the game by AFKing, lmao

It goes from "omg how can blizz not do anything about these horrible people" to "omg wait no im not one of them i was just soft afking bgs all day".

[lean burrow]

soft afking

[full quiver]

🤣

[near delta]

They weren't AFKing tho just defending a tower. Sitting on the hill next to Drek for 5 minutes doing nothing is afking. lol

[spice hornet]

People afk or soft afk BGs on retail all of the time, it doesn’t really change anything. Your win rate typically will be around 50-60 regardless of how hard you try

Then didn’t even ban for that back in the day when bc/wotlk were current

Also they don’t even warn you or anything, first time ban is a week? Or longer I think for the recent wave. People who get banned for gold buying get like 3 days. Like what?

[full quiver]

Lol maybe yours is 50-60 because you don't contribute

[frank knoll]

That doesn’t ruin the game, get them booted from the match with a deserter debuff, that’s more than enough lol

[spice hornet]

Unless all you do is premade or leave losing bgs to prevent a loss on your record, typically everyone’s win rate starts to average to this?

There’s some games you just can’t win because your team has no gear or no healers

[mystic barn]

don’t listen to scooberz his winrate is in the low 20s for bgs

[full quiver]

Lol

Normal bgs I have a good win/loss but now I just spam shuffles

[frank knoll]

Why stop there, Ban people who tank their MMR to smurf then

[warped warren]

not the same thing

[frank knoll]

Correct, one is more obnoxious than the other

[spice hornet]

Try to gear my level 70 warr with questing gear in bgs

Die to aoe in team fights and do no dmg

Sit at a node to defend

Get reported for afk

[pure tusk]

Rethreaded from #arms , but the 4 PC stat buff from set gear is better than the secondary stat priority from regular pvp?

I have 4/5 for set items, still getting all my conquest secondaries

[past jolt]

LOL

Kinda deserved

[past jolt]

Idk

[past jolt]

True

The ppl on retail that come into bgs without even the gear attainable in minutes at max ( like anima vendor gear) are pieces of shit, Classic it takes a bit more time but you should at least get some badge gear before doing bgs

[spice hornet]

💀

You don’t like having the fresh boosted 60 who logged in and qd for BG on your team?

[past jolt]

Idk retail is gay in all ways rn

[spice hornet]

Both versions are just boring af rn

It’s sit in 4hr q to spam AV

Or go on retail and sit in LFG for 4 hours

[pure tusk]

why is it gay

[past jolt]

No, one version has over power hitting like Mack truck other has you forced into playing fury

Why does your pro pic change from a young kid, to a young adult, to an old man

Sometimes you’re an old man too

That didn’t show up

[wild phoenix]

Random q. Is 30 percent vers a soft cap?

[raw summit]

Nop just 1st dimishing return

[wild phoenix]

I'm sitting at 29 right now, currently regearing myself for more crit. But I got to wondering about vers, and is it worth pushing over 30 percent

Kk ty

[fickle forge]

Yeah

[wild phoenix]

Lol that was kinda me. Went in full pve glass cannon die in moments. After my 3rd random bg I bought the blue honor gear and promptly upgraded it to max. Much gooder experience

[fickle forge]

You can't hit any relevant caps with the tiny stat budget we have rn anyway

Just stack up

[wild phoenix]

Now I have the purple conquest 2h sword and man it feels good. So good

[past jolt]

138 ilvl?

[wild phoenix]

No I think it was some closer to 200 shit

I don't remember. I didn't use it at no upgrade level

[past jolt]

Oh where’s the canon part

It’s just glass

[wild phoenix]

Lol. 0 vers, or next to zero vers is a death sentence

At least for me it was

[raw summit]

You are glass till like 290ish

[past jolt]

You probs didn’t do any dmg

[raw summit]

And then still very shaky

[fickle forge]

You're ilvl 200?

Fucking hell man

[past jolt]

What do you play, a gnome???

You charged into battle and blade stormed like a jackass I bet

[wild phoenix]

Atm my shit scales to 288 on wm and pvp. It's a looooot better. Working on conquest armor now thst I have the weapon

[wild phoenix]

Lmao fuck man. Read up

[past jolt]

What is the race of your character

[wild phoenix]

Dwarf. The best race

[past jolt]

Yep

[wild phoenix]

What's a good method or slot to use for 4pc pve set? Is it worth going for for pvp?

[past jolt]

And you charged into battle and yelled abhhhhhhh with your 200 ilvl

[wild phoenix]

Lmao

[raw summit]

Helm shoulders good for tier

[wild phoenix]

Nah I'm smarter than that. I'd hang back in packs and jack people that went after heals

[raw summit]

And yes use ur pve tier

Until u have pvp tier

[past jolt]

Bro cmon u can’t jack shit at that ilvl

[wild phoenix]

Only the epic conquest will have the bonuses right? The blue armor I upgraded has no set tiers

[past jolt]

You’d die to the cleave

[wild phoenix]

Ilvl 288 is just fine for unrated random bg and arena, and is fine to start an arena conquest grind with

Tf lmao. You expect people that didn't pvp for years to suddenly have epic pvp gear?

[past jolt]

Yeah 288 is cool, we’re strictly talking 200

[fluid surge]

How is this season looking? Was thinking if I should climb with warrior or dh. Maybe dh is better due lock meta ect?

[past jolt]

No

[wild phoenix]

Nah that wouldn't have been worth my time to do. I had 12k honor somehow, bought all the armor trinket and a ring and upgraded them. Got my pvp level ip and maxed em out

[past jolt]

Go to wrath classic

[past jolt]

Yeah good for u dude

Good job

[wild phoenix]

Instead of buying epic armor I got the weapon first now I'm working for epic armor

[past jolt]

Well it doesn’t need to be epic to be epic if you know what I mean man

[wild phoenix]

Lmao, but it helps

[past jolt]

classic servers are down so i have to play REEtail

cause my job doesnt let me pick my days off ree

[spice hornet]

WFH masterrace

[woven mural]

damn straight

[calm lichen]

DF Roundtable is live!!
https://discordapp.com/channels/148872210742771712/244907029251096586/1019341917550551100

[raw summit]

Promo channel

[spice hornet]

No way 💀

Need to join that discord and troll it all day

“Having trouble killing targets in 7 sec kidney while the enemy is DB poly’d, any tips”

[calm lichen]

I did post it in there. That's where the link goes. 🤓

[nimble jasper]

rogue mage the

[raw summit]

You did everything right good sir im just astounded what i found there

[nimble jasper]

“waiting for priest to login” queues

[calm lichen]

Oh... lol

[frank knoll]

In random BGs atleast I’m like 269-279 PvP on a few alts I have and I do just fine for gearing.

Granted most of these are ranged that can sit back and PvE

[past jolt]

Ever gonna answer the question I asked u

[spice hornet]

Think it’s a discord bug

This pic is a server specific pic to commemorate the best warrior who ever played the game @bruin

My real pic is king Joffrey from GoT

[near delta]

Ofc Bruin was a Tom Brady fan

[frank knoll]

Is Bruin the guy that was stuck at like 1750 and told everyone how he almost got divorced because he plays WoW too much

[lucid walrus]

he’s the one that was on perma tilt, flexed 2.1 and then we found out he was playing with some substantially higher xp “friend” that helped “for free”

[frank knoll]

I remember he went to the hunter discord just to rage on them for playing hunters, was funny

So he got carried

[lucid walrus]

make of it what you will :)

[raw summit]

[spice hornet]

Bruin also frequently told people to play in traffic

[spice hornet]

I hate that guy he’s so annoying

[fickle forge]

When your spec is so thrash in 2s you only Q 1 game to show up on statistics

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[spice hornet]

Absolutely based

[frank knoll]

He is correct when he states that most people who participate in PvP don’t give af about arena and just do random BGs.

[wheat jay]

I meaaaaaaaan

He is right about arena being a mini game

True gameplay is pve

[spice hornet]

I’d be very curious on a comparison between arena population and random BG only participation

Especially if pvp upgrade ranks didn’t exist

[frank knoll]

Idk I sit in LFG for like an hour before I find partners.
I queue for a random BG and have a full 10 man team in 3 mins

I think rated solo queue will help a lot with participation

When that comes out

Probably has a lot to do with rated PvP being “competitive” needing specific comps etc.

even in rated BGs, good luck getting an invite if ur not a bear tank, boomy, afflock or disc

[craggy socket]

Is there a classic discord for warriors or do we talk about it here

[elder wigeon]

there's no classic pvp which is unfortunate

but yes talk here

[craggy socket]

Is there anyway, addon or anything that will tell me when I can whirlwind or revenge for example when im in another stance

[near delta]

I think fight club is pretty legit?

[elder wigeon]

you could make a weakaura set up to show you whirlwind when usable

[copper hare]

https://www.twitch.tv/maldiva/clip/VibrantBlightedBeanPRChase-7hzoPo6fIN8mGlA9?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time

seems fine

[spice hornet]

Afflic needs dat

They’re squishy

Is Maldiva ever not playing this game? Like damn

[lean burrow]

afflock too weak

need to buff their damage some more

and maybe then everyone will reroll to lock

[steep inlet]

Holy shit

They announced solo Q will be like Overwatch

Each spec

Has its rating

Arms CR Fury CR Prot CR

All with vault and seasonal rewards

[elder wigeon]

sick

[warped warren]

LMAO

[high kindle]

different CR for arms and fury? that sounds crazy, is it a good thing?

[elder wigeon]

I personally think so

it was a very good thing for OW when they had 3 different SR's per role

[fickle forge]

Means you can int the fuck out of your alt spec and continue to push main

[elder wigeon]

per spec is kinda crazy tbh it should be per role

fury/arms then tank

or for druid, tank, heals, dps

etc

[high kindle]

there is a new PvP talent for arms and fury, seems shit, any thoughts?

[fickle forge]

Where do you see that?

[lean burrow]

prot's talent gets shared with arms/fury

the one that "spell reflected spell deals 33% more damage"

buffed to 50%

still shit

[fickle forge]

Time to reflect some chaos bolts

[high kindle]

I wish they would bring back overwatch pvp talent, they got rid of it because of mass reflect lego, now it would be a perfect time to get it back

such a cool talent, so much outplay potential

[lean burrow]

btw, did intervene get buffed to 6 sec again?

I noticed tooltip in arena says 6 sec

but didn't notice how long buff stays on team

[fickle forge]

On live or PTR?

[lean burrow]

current patch, live

[fickle forge]

Nah then no

[lean burrow]

tooltip bug

[fathom spoke]

Hi guys , is there any guide to know good pvp rotation in wotlk?

[past jolt]

You just want warrior to be more busted, I understand, but please get reality check

[formal steppe]

What's the best slot for tier on fury? helm+shoulder sure, but what makes chest/legs/arms come ahead?

[spice hornet]

I think you don’t want tier legs as fury cause they have crit

I forget

Im 4pc with pvp legs

[formal steppe]

how is the darkshire ring vers mastery that reduces damage for 10 % for 4 secs from m+ for fury pvp?

[raw summit]

4 seconds

Does that really sound ANY good to you?

[formal steppe]

it resets on targetswap or not

[graceful ginkgo]

Just making sure, the Arms bleeds are all phys, right? As in hard to dispel

[fickle forge]

Bleeds are physical yes

Physical dmg that ignores armor

[graceful ginkgo]

Ok. Does Dragon Roar have a pvp multiplier?

[fickle forge]

Look it up on Drustvar, they got all the modifiers there

[graceful ginkgo]

Ah k

[spice hornet]

Dragon roar suks

[lean burrow]

aaaaaa

[raw summit]

It triggers once per enemy per arena

[spice hornet]

How’d they get a gif of Mud

[full quiver]

🤣

[near delta]

Really dumb question: if my teammate is in combat and I battle shout does it put me in combat? I assume no lol

[lean burrow]

no

source: ||Armstrong||

[wild phoenix]

Only at 120 percent mad

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mad-tf2-heavy-gif-14783625

[wild phoenix]

Mmm mage food. Mmm, making food out of mages

[full quiver]

Mages are kind of like jesus

[past jolt]

Nope

But you will trigger token of appreciation from venthyr ppl

If you have 2 venth teammates it’s quite thick

Like 11k absorb everytime you battlrshout

[spice hornet]

Pre battle shouting the go

[tribal torrent]

any venthyr players?

[simple rock]

I will be a venthyr warr in dragonflight

if that counts

[elder wigeon]

how will you do that

[simple rock]

wait did they just get rid of condemn for arms?

[elder wigeon]

yes

don't need it though

i'd prefer for tuning sake that execute hits hard as fuck

fatality needs nerfed by like 80% in pvp tho if it isn't already

[past jolt]

Gl with that given that massacre is in the game

And everyone will have it cause it’s in first gate 🙂

[elder wigeon]

that's fine

[past jolt]

(I don’t think execute hits hard as f in SL so if you just want it at that lvl it’s probable)

[elder wigeon]

execute hits hella hard in SL with the right modifiers lol

I can hit 60-70K on cloth rn

[past jolt]

Oh nice, I’m sure that’s against no versatility

Or maybe with all your cds up?

It definitely shouldn’t hit anywhere near that without avatar csmash

Fwiw, execute is tuned lower on beta currently

[near delta]

Wat?

[past jolt]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=336245/token-of-appreciation

Battle shout triggers this, each shield 6-7k in current gear I think

Probs higher last I checked was s3

[near delta]

Ohhhh interesting

[sage raptor]

In S3 yes

[simple rock]

oh they got rid of skull banner too

I guess it's probably better for the game

[indigo barn]

Impossible to balance correctly

With how everything is now

[elder wigeon]

skull banner is still there

oh they just got rid of it lmao

[near delta]

Honestly it was gonna be super fried in raids with the 20 yard range

[indigo barn]

Was party only as well

[near delta]

Yea

[thick reef]

yeah but he was the best warrior

actual rank 1

[spice hornet]

miss him

At least we got a nice new mud emote

[craggy socket]

Does anyone know why Ret/Warr isn't a comp in wrath for 3s? Nobody talks about it

[wet scarab]

The level of priest tilt after the ptr changes last night is a little delicious

The only one I feel bad about is disc losing shadowmend but the rest of it is waaaah why can’t I have an interrupt when I’ve had chastise fear holy ward and ascension and I’m 50% of healers

There are even people complaining that it’s unfair that hpal gets lay on hands in arena when they’ve had 2 charges of serenity all this time

Imagine rmp with an additional spell interrupt effect lmao

[indigo barn]

LOH is a 10 min cd tho yeah?

[sage raptor]

Yeah

[sage raptor]

What's there to talk about? It's been a thing since tbc lol.

If pally get LOH, I get to use Army of the Dead in arenas too

It's only fair

[warped warren]

yea, but noone plays it in wrath

[sage raptor]

They will later

You can't kill the ret/warr. The ret/warr will live on.

https://youtu.be/qR7U1HIhxfA

[simple rock]

it's definitely still decent

but what made ret so strong in TBC was windfury with twisting

windfury is just 20% haste now

[warped warren]

havent seen a ret warr in 3s over 5 years on private servers

[graceful ginkgo]

Jeah I am hoping Fury tears will reach similar levels

[wild phoenix]

laughs in mortal strike

[fickle forge]

WoG on ret was essentially LoH in S1 anyway

And then you have NS, Serenity etc. which overheal so hard they may as well be LoH too

[crude sentinel]

With arms following suit

[wild phoenix]

cries in mortal strike

[wet scarab]

Just spec fatality and no games will ever go into deep dampening

[graceful ginkgo]

Arms looks Fine so far, doesnt it?

[full quiver]

I hate the instant full hp heals through sharpening

Like sick I prevented 20k overheal

[wet scarab]

Arms looks great

[wild phoenix]

It amazes me when I see someone get a huge massive heal when I slap the big boy sharpened ms on people

[copper hare]

Well spells like regrowth and serenity still heal for 90k + with the right circumstances, kinda silly

[spice hornet]

Had an rdruid at like 4% and he hit a 97k regrowth thriugh ms Kekw

[wild phoenix]

I've learned something this week doing more pvp.
If you disarm a dk around or just under half hp, they will freak out on you and blow cc cd's

[spice hornet]

Yes disarm scares them real good

[wild phoenix]

I like to tell myself that when the health strike button doesn't work, they flip out and panic

Bahahaha

[fickle forge]

Better than fury for sure

[graceful ginkgo]

Hope it stays that way

[craggy socket]

Warrior looks amazing next xpac lol

I love the talent trees for warrior more than any other spec so far in beta

shaman a close second boy they gonna be NASTY

[lean burrow]

bounding stride+double time+stun finally

[dusky parrot]

Well the CEO of blizzard or something along the lines of that plays warrior and is a KSM. Our class finally gets love

[past jolt]

I feel bad arms warrs excited comm “ sharpened 2 of em” !! While fury passively does 90% of a sharpen 100% uptime

Sad world we live in where I can’t yell about my damn sharpen

[past jolt]

Let’s be real nobody expected all 3

Bounding stride in the mix is just greed

We’re greedy

[near delta]

I never played in og wrath 50% ms plus unrelenting assault is absolutely insane

[past jolt]

We’re gonna be the kid who got his entire Christ mas list

[past jolt]

Oh you mean the stack?

It’s a firm 75% healing reduction if the caster is casting on himself

Very deadly

Well 50% of the heal is reduced before it’s dealt, so it’s still 50% reduced, which is important distinction bc mortal strikes are always capped at 50% in wrath no dampening to add in

[near delta]

Yeah

[past jolt]

It’s cool

But most the time they won’t let you stay on the heals to make use of it in arena

Im@not sure it’s been ages since I observed wrath PvP or participated

[sage raptor]

No it hasn't

[past jolt]

Been over a decade

[sage raptor]

No it hasn't

[past jolt]

Since I pvped in wrath?

Or observed

Well over a decade that’s right

[raw summit]

He's rerolled to Outlaw

[sage raptor]

Yayy I love my pirate

[dusky parrot]

I’m quitting WoW

[fickle forge]

Can we talk about this Chad jawline and massive shoulders on the next glad mount?

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[wheat jay]

Need the mount just for the muscles

Gotta blast shoulders irl too

[raw summit]

This mount would post bench

[wheat jay]

We're not riding this mount, it's using us as a weight

Blizz rly knows what we like

First we had thicc angels

Now we get muscular dragons

[spice hornet]

Based af

[lean burrow]

btw how do you guys keep track of debuffs on yourselves?

[wheat jay]

Weakauras

[lean burrow]

sometimes it's hard to see if I've got druid's vortex or pala's slow

[wheat jay]

Elvui filters help a lot

Assuming you use it

[lean burrow]

nah

[wheat jay]

If not, then weakauras help a lot

[lean burrow]

blizz ui

[wheat jay]

Unless you're like @fickle forge who refuses to use weakauras so enemies have easier time against him

Playing on hard mode

[lean burrow]

i got weakauras that show in middle of screen if i got mind games, karma, vendetta

so do i need to add all debuffs i might see to that?

[lean burrow]

that+stacking mastery on arms for max chadness

[wheat jay]

Nah

[fickle forge]

Gigachad moment, refusing to resort to cheating 😎👍

[wheat jay]

Its not cheating

Its like saying, ye bro I run without shoes

Shoes are cheats

Its cheating in raids, that's for sure

[nimble jasper]

i just have my ui sized so i can see debuffs

[lean burrow]

but on awc

[fickle forge]

Except I have shoes, but weakaura ppl have shoes that can have any kind of attachment, like rockets

[lean burrow]

everyone is shoeless

[wheat jay]

Iirc there are addons and weakauras in awc

Just limited

[fickle forge]

My shoes are like; a bit higher arc support for comfortable landing, hard heel to take the next step faster etc.

[fickle forge]

Addons are allowed on AWC I believe

[wheat jay]

Nah that's pve

In pve your shoes run for you lmao

In pvp its just tracking things

[fickle forge]

Except it degrades your brain

Making you an even bigger beta

Remember when rogues would hit Disarm on an EB proc because Mes' WA package couldn't tell the difference between the proc and a real WB?

Checkmate nerd

[lean burrow]

Mes' wa got updated or something?

why "used to"?

(i don't use mes wa)

[raw summit]

So it went off of "you have wb debuff"

I think

So applying it from EB procced it

Now its tied to cast success, so basically it reads the combat log

It does this for like all cooldowns now

[nimble jasper]

i used to always just disarm

cuz i saw a cs debuff

and avatar popped

[fickle forge]

If it's in conjunction with Avatar I'd understand

[nimble jasper]

i actually have eyes ig tho

i see him do the wb animation

then theres the low mmr warriors

who have warbanner macroed to all of it

[raw summit]

I have banner macro'd to blood fury

[nimble jasper]

necro banner?

[raw summit]

Other way round

[nimble jasper]

not the same

[raw summit]

If i Banner it presses orc racial

But orc racial has it's own keybind too

[nimble jasper]

depends on class for me

on ww I used to just have orc macroed with xuen

[raw summit]

I think it's macro'd to wb in pve

But i just press the bind sometimes

Idk i got no clue what to do abt it

[lucid walrus]

blood fury is basically just a trinket

wouldn’t sweat macroing it

[fickle forge]

As if orc rele wasn't big enough on its own

[graceful ginkgo]

does "movement impairing effects" in battle stance include stuns, fears etc, or just snares+roots?

[fickle forge]

The ladder

[lucid walrus]

usually involves the latter yeah

“loss of control” is legalese for hard cc

[graceful ginkgo]

kk makes more sense

[fickle forge]

Else it'd be a pretty busted talent

[graceful ginkgo]

yes

[lucid walrus]

sephuz but pretty much baseline lmao

imagine

[elder wigeon]

Better than sephuz

[wheat jay]

just gotta not be retarded lmao

also, imo mes wa is bad

[warped warren]

huh?

[wheat jay]

ok, not bad, just not my kind of wa

[sage raptor]

Yall are wrong

[wet scarab]

WAs are the most Pavlovian thing it trains your brains in a very simplistic if/then scenario. Congratulations you pressed the button when the computer told you to

basically plays the game for you

[wheat jay]

whole structure of pvp is pavlovian thing

enemy presses something

you respond

[wet scarab]

there are a lot of extenuating circumstances in pvp which is why you can take advantage of people playing like robots and bait them with smaller cds and such. In pve it solves entire raid mechanics and automates them for you. If you apply WAs in pvp with the same approach you won't get very far

[raw summit]

Yea weakauras in pve can be some fried shit

[wheat jay]

Who said anything about blindly following weakauras

We already established that you have to not be retarded to get high in pvp

Unless you play ret/warr

[raw summit]

Weakauras yelling WB is fine

Instinctively disarming it isnt

[wheat jay]

Weakauras are there to have debuffs/buffs wherever you want instead of top left next to map

Its a tool, all depends on the user

[raw summit]

I mean you could just move ur debuffs

[wheat jay]

I for example have weakauras with important buffs

[raw summit]

Like mine are on my player frame

[wheat jay]

Not all, just things like intervene, turtle, dbts, bop

[raw summit]

Weakaura showing enrage uptime is based

[wheat jay]

There's a lot that's useless tho

[raw summit]

Yep

[wheat jay]

So having a wa is better

Cuz its not a clusterfuck of icons that are on you 24/7

[raw summit]

Yea youd have to filter stuff

[wheat jay]

Like, why would I want to track every dot, deep wounds, every ms on me, all assa poisons

Its useless

I want to see vendetta and sepsis

That's all

[raw summit]

I just have it this way cuz pve main scrub and cba changing ui

[wheat jay]

Pve main here too

Elvui changed to fit pvp

[raw summit]

Im redoing UI for df again but idk if itll be pvp'able easily

[wheat jay]

I loved the moment when checking Kargish's vod and he didnt have feral Frenzy on party frames

"my wow frames are tracking everything" except important stuff

[raw summit]

Usually default frames cover all the good shit

[wheat jay]

Most

Not all

Also

I fucking can't look at classic combat text on retail

Clusterfuck of numbers xD

My friend has it

Same with standard Blizzard enemy frames

Too small

Can't see totems well

@fickle forge get yourself some enemy frames that dont suck absolute dick

[raw summit]

Dude scrolling combat text on self is so fucking trash

It's unbelievable

[wheat jay]

Thank you

[wet scarab]

So does the blue post about things going away etc mean we’ll be able to continue the season after prepatch?

[wheat jay]

I have nameplate scrolling combat text

[wet scarab]

And potentially play with new talents

[raw summit]

I like default damage numbers but my elvui swallowed em for some reason

So i gotta figure out how to get em back sometime

[wheat jay]

Try nameplate scrolling combat text

Its the most subtle addon for it

[raw summit]

Nsct is with the Icons, right?

[wheat jay]

Yes

And diff font colors for different dmg types

Green for nature etc

[raw summit]

Once im home ill try get default back and if that doesnt do the trick ill try nsct

[wheat jay]

Also, what plate addons are you using?

[raw summit]

In general imma uninstall all addons but weakauras and fully redo my ui

Plater

[wheat jay]

Cuz i adapted plater for pvp

Ayyyyyy

Noice

[raw summit]

Mine isnt really set up for pvp but i just enable big debuffs and it's ok

[wheat jay]

Haha fair fair

Also, elvui party frames

Are amazing

With custom filters

[raw summit]

I should spend more time with that tbh

Just didnt find the custom filters to be very intuitive so i hadnt bothered much

[wheat jay]

I made pvp ones

If i have sth important there, I add it to filters and see it on every party frame

Added sepsis, cs, feral Frenzy etc

[raw summit]

Does it go over the name or the debuff ID

[sage raptor]

WAs make me want to shit myself

[wheat jay]

I did by id

[raw summit]

Weakauras is a fun addon

[wheat jay]

Not sure if you can have it go by names

Also

[wheat jay]

My favourite WA, asked a friend for it

[raw summit]

I mean you can just look up ids

[raw summit]

Fuck demo

[wheat jay]

When my buttons go off cooldown, they flash for 2s, just like when you get a proc of overpower

[wheat jay]

Disgusting

[raw summit]

Lookin like an m+ pack man

[wheat jay]

Absolutely atrocious

Maybe if you got rid of that yee yee ass nameplate you'd get some glads in your friendlist

[fickle forge]

I literally have a sea of glads in my friendlist

And how many do I speak to?

Like 3

😎 👍

[wheat jay]

Yes, me, James, Rey

[fickle forge]

Hehe eksdee

[wheat jay]

What was the easy setup nameplate addon?

Threatplates?

@fickle forge get yourself some threatplates

[fickle forge]

No, fuck you

[wheat jay]

Yes, fuck you too

[fickle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-21913959

[wheat jay]

Yes, your's

Cuz you can't kill totems

[fickle forge]

Trinket more solar beams you hunter ape

[raw summit]

Default is aight until Demo

[wheat jay]

Tank more tyrants you warrior ape

[fickle forge]

I will, cause these Chad pecs will deflect any beta CDs 😎 👍

[wheat jay]

When are you getting said chad pecs?

[fickle forge]

When are you gonna go to a gym ever?

Checkmate

[wheat jay]

Been to gym 4 times

Checkmate

[fickle forge]

Shit

Outplayed

[raw summit]

That better be 4 times a day

[wheat jay]

No

Was 4 times in 4 days

And that's all

[raw summit]

Good enough

[wheat jay]

I am a closet chad

[raw summit]

Actually go once in 4 days, just never leave

[wheat jay]

Working out at home

[raw summit]

[sage raptor]

You are all wrong

[wheat jay]

No u