pvp

[sharp meteor]

and people get hyped into fotming in

then bail a few weeks later

[wheat crane]

100%

[sharp meteor]

idk what it is these days but i see everybody do it with every game

[wheat crane]

Like i was pumped to play og disease dk

[sharp meteor]

maybe it's advertising idk

kind of like how everybody left to play ff14 for like a few weeks

or new world

[wheat crane]

I hit 70, im like, this class sucks ass

[sharp meteor]

then came slinking back and pretended they didn't

[sage raptor]

Well yeah you're level 70

[wheat crane]

Like i forgot og dk had 3 blood rune spenders that all are shit, and i think wod/cata they merged them all into blood boil

Besides for balancing always being shit youve literally got endless qol patches on retail

Games just better in every way

Hopefully DF follows through on no gear upgrades n no borrowed power

Then were money

[sage raptor]

I'm more interested after where wow goes after DF with the new talent trees and such honestly. I think what we have now is a great starting point.

I'm a sucker for dragons honestly

[copper hare]

You like them long tails?

[lucid walrus]

mashallah brother

[tranquil peak]

I mean they’re just building a lot of borrowed powers into talent trees so

[sage raptor]

Big tongues

[sage raptor]

But they're talents now

Which is different.

[tranquil peak]

Most of the shit they introduced for shadowlands is bad for the game, keeping it around in talent trees is just a mistake

[sage raptor]

How is it a mistake?

[sharp meteor]

You'll pry my spear from my cold dead hands.

[sage raptor]

Same with slappy hands

I'll miss soulshape for legacy content tbh

[tranquil peak]

If you’re having to ask why keeping these borrowed powers that blizzard has demonstrated they do not know how to balance, me explaining it to you isn’t going to change anything

[sage raptor]

There is no borrowed power in df. Everything from SL that's going into DF is a talent. The opposite of borrowed power.

[indigo barn]

Borrowed power sucks from a balancing perspective because the abilities are only around for 3 years at the most. If the abilities are around for longer, like most of the talents currently, balance is achievable

[tranquil peak]

Keep drinking that copium brother lmao

[sage raptor]

What copium? Lol there's no borrowed power.

It's plain as day.

[tranquil peak]

Your argument is literally the same as saying “I’m not going to see the barber, I’m going to see my hair stylist”

[sage raptor]

Unless you consider talents borrowed power then sure.

I'm not arguing. I'm saying there's no borrowed power lmaoo

Idk whats so hard to understand

[tranquil peak]

The borrowed powers that exist now are becoming talents, that’s the same as keeping borrowed powers in the game. Giving them a new name doesn’t change anything, which you seem to not comprehend

[sage raptor]

It is most certainly not the same as keeping borrowed powers.

It's not borrowed if it's a talent

[sharp meteor]

I like how borrowed power is just new abilities or "stuff i don't like".

Freaking stormkeeper borrowed power reee

[sage raptor]

Unholys apoc is borrowed power I guess

Lol

[sharp meteor]

also people playing wotlk to escape rating locked gear

throw me into an incinerator nothing makes sense

[sage raptor]

What did warriors get in legion? I honestly dont remember.

[tranquil peak]

Nobody said this. But there’s no denying that shadowlands covenant abilities have become the thing that you HAVE to play your character around, and have caused a lot of balance issues and have changed the way the game is played. Anything that pigeonholes how you play your character or what is viable to play is bad for the game.

[indigo barn]

Warbreaker LUL

[sage raptor]

Lmao

That sucks

I only played dk and outlaw back then

[indigo barn]

Prot was a giga block

And fury was Odyns Fury

[sage raptor]

Oh yeahhh I remember Odyns Fury

That was cool

I guess it's back now

[indigo barn]

Was such a minor addition to your rotation

Could have not existed and you would have not noticed

[indigo barn]

Have you seen what some tier sets have done over the years?

Legit full talent change for some classes

[past jolt]

Sad thing is you can’t play retail while waiting for wrath without a second sub OMEGA

[past jolt]

True

[past jolt]

Tier sets are the best forms of borrowed power, tho having a set for 4 different raid modes and catalyst creation waters down the thrill of getting a piece

[sharp meteor]

Freakin heckin BORROWED power get it out my face

who would want an aoe colossus smash

[near delta]

The issue wasn't the abilities themselves for the most part. It was the combinatorics of 11 different classes with 2 to 4 specs, 4 possible covenant powers, 8+ different legendaries, 24 different conduits, and tier sets all creating an impossible to balance mess.

[tranquil peak]

True, there are a lot of problematic conduits

But there are also some borrowed powers that have no business existing too

[near delta]

Like what?

[tranquil peak]

Mindgames is pretty gamebreaking, grabby hands is okay but is too strong in its current form

Soul rot is pretty dumb

Flagellation is really over the top as well

Convoke needs some kind of change

Spear of bastion is on too short of a CD imo

Mostly the fact that the game has devolved into this state of “you die if you don’t have your trinket” is pretty hard to enjoy

[spice hornet]

Outside of cheesy one shots, I feel like the pace of the game is almost pretty good

Plz no more bfa damp fest games

[deep mulch]

Get Conq weapons first as fury, or One conq and a maxed honor then 4 set before second conq weapon?

[elder wigeon]

spot the games that have me feeling good about the season

btw top two games were prot pally rsham war

[spice hornet]

LMAO

Was that 9min one outlaw/aff/rdruid

11:38min KEKW

[elder wigeon]

absolutely riveting gameplay

[spice hornet]

I’m assuming that was stunandbung

He does so much dam for a tank spec it’s dumb

or was it @elfin surge mentor Mortalx

[spice hornet]

would u q with the mies?

[lucid walrus]

is that even a question

[spice hornet]

29x r1

[elder wigeon]

I would not

[spice hornet]

Kekw don’t feel like getting abused by the mies while he plays one of his scuffed alt paladins

[elder wigeon]

pmuch

[sharp meteor]

he is going to be the god of ranked solo shuffle in df

[wheat jay]

Who the fuck does?

[fickle forge]

Borrowed power oftens means external sources that you'll lose through expansion or patch features going away, since it's not tied to your class, like corruption, essences and legendaries.
If it's part of your class then the power is all yours.

[warm urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/mies-dance-the-mies-crusader3455-big-dam-judge-gif-25983652

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader3455-crusader-gif-26554983

[raw summit]

Mies' form is perfect

[unkempt arch]

Hi, I'm noob
what would you say is the biggest gameplay difference between an experienced fury warrior vs a newbie ?

[frank knoll]

Everyone on the forums always hates on stunandbung

[elfin surge]

not much

[spice hornet]

Good morning @elfin surge what’s the agenda for today?

[raw summit]

I hope it's more prot queues

Always great seeing a tank main in arenas

[spice hornet]

[elfin surge]

this is targeted harassment

[full quiver]

If u play ur prot pally every verbal attack against you will be met with auto judgement proc

[frank knoll]

Blood DK is annoying too, 60k death strikes

[spice hornet]

Wait til the blood dk kidnaps you to a corner of the BG or under water and you can’t play

[meager mauve]

2300rdruid in 2's looking for warriors to queue with - DM me

[raw summit]

queue with mud, hes the best prot youll find

[meager mauve]

I'm not known or anything, just a random lfg andy I doubt he'd queue with me

[raw summit]

you never know what protgodx is up to

[spice hornet]

[nimble jasper]

warrior rdruid 2s sounds like some boring damp shit ngl

[spice hornet]

Im surprised he wants to q with a warrior

Past 2300 it’s all rogues/hunters/DHs/ferals

[meager mauve]

ill queue with anything

just want to play games

[past jolt]

Anyone whose doesn’t encourage naming themselves after a pedophilic term?

[past jolt]

^ like this

[tranquil peak]

I'm flattered brother but I don't reciprocate the crush you have for me, don't let me live in your head rent free, it's not good for you

[wheat jay]

Ye i dont get it xD

[past jolt]

well now everything i know about you makes sense 😄

[amber harness]

how does fury compare to arms in rbg?

[wheat jay]

Wanna know what didnt make sense, me boosting Kargish for 1300 games to get him glad

Smh

Waste of time

[bright spire]

Is there a way to check what comp high rated warriors are playing in 3s?

[paper oracle]

ret/war turbo and kitty are the 3 best comps for warrior right now

[bright spire]

Ty, ty. So with Rsham healer I guess ret/warr/rsham would be nice or the feral

We are trying with DK, but we're stuck on 2.2k-ish

[spice hornet]

Rdruid is like the best for ret warr

So@boring to play though

[bright spire]

It's about getting the mount, not having fun!

[full quiver]

R sham kitty felt awful s2

Cleaves just face roll ur sham lol

[bright spire]

But I'm pre with Rsham so I guess we will try with feral

If only cleaves are a problem I guess we can work it out

[past jolt]

The ladder available on the official website and filters are available to specify your search on third party sites like arenamate.com and xunamate.com

[past jolt]

Rsham is just as good really, rdruid’s best comp is Ret warr hence why you see gisel only qing that

Kitty is best with a disc as it fits one of the main conditions of the comp which is pi and berserk

I don’t value kitty much without a priest

[copper hare]

nah

rsham + druid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priest

[past jolt]

Fool

That’s just DEAD wrong

[copper hare]

show me your check pvp

[past jolt]

Way to chime in with irrelevant info

Show me anything to validate kitty rdruid is good

Or better than priest????

Wth

[copper hare]

I mean you pretty much always think you're right in every channel but I think in the end you just have a attention deficit

[past jolt]

Mk

So If the fact that every top kitty on ladder plays with pro isn’t enough, nothing will sway you

[bright spire]

what about fury rsham and sp?

seems viable

[paper oracle]

the top of the ladder plays differently than the general ladder

dpriest kitty is good into certain comps

[copper hare]

first there is a pretty huge difference between rank 1 priests and average glad priests and second most of them play with rsham/mw?

[paper oracle]

and awful into others

[copper hare]

you absolutely get rolled with priest as soon as you have to go into dampening

[paper oracle]

i found hpriest kitty was much better for the general ladder

[past jolt]

any priest will work, though hpriest is worse

[copper hare]

Have you even played urself this season or at 2k+ at all during SL or are you're just making assumptions based on what the top 10 people are on the ladder?

xd

[past jolt]

ofc i have, i don't really find that much impressive. i watch people far better than me play and they see the same

[copper hare]

I mean you also tried to argue against Archimtiros and you completely acted like an entitled girl even when you were wrong

you're really cringe

[past jolt]

wouldn't it be worse if i was saying from my games, i see only priest

rather than various other people

[copper hare]

Just link me your char once, I just wanna know if you're not just a bad troll

tbh

[past jolt]

i dont even know what ur talking about, but what i say about pve is usually dumb yes

im a pvper

i have not raided a tier in this expansion so ofc i wont know much

[copper hare]

just link

[past jolt]

im not linking my characters no

stop asking maverick

[copper hare]

Ok, so in the end you're just one of the typical forum guys making some weird assumptions and keep naming people fools who are actually experiencing the game and knowing what they face and what is commonly played

[past jolt]

ill just ask one of the many people i know

what's good these days

[copper hare]

You often link those who probably never heard of you before

and thats probably the weirdest flex ive ever seen, just confirms how cringe you are

xd

[past jolt]

ya for sure, just cause i dont wanna name myself doesn't mean i dont know whats' good

i just friend request and get accepted by people who have no idea

[spice hornet]

lmao this channel has been pretty entertaining lately

all we need is Bruin in here

and lifes complete

[nimble jasper]

did this guy see mud q disc kitty

[copper hare]

Long time ago since I've seen such a cringe dude

[nimble jasper]

and think its the best

[past jolt]

elswave qs it

lag qs it

mag even qd it

[nimble jasper]

challengerz is a good priest

psure mag will just q with any good healer

[past jolt]

it was a popular comp on eu

[nimble jasper]

that wants to play

[past jolt]

in s3

[nimble jasper]

esp early ssn

[past jolt]

before na started to play it

[cosmic pumice]

guys get a job

and a life

it will do you wonders

[past jolt]

that's probs what i shoulda said instead of defending myself against a guy with an obsession

good advice tbh

cheers

[near delta]

@last geodeuin

[wheat jay]

I did, it sucks, cant push rating because of it

Id rather be a nerd lifting weights again

[copper hare]

why not both

[wheat jay]

Too much work

Takes too much time

I get money which is fine

[spice hornet]

I just fought mag kitty he was with rsham hehe I won

@last geodeuin

[wheat jay]

But nothing like pushing rating with my homie @fickle forge

[nimble jasper]

@last geodeuin

[copper hare]

I bet ziggly eats his pizza with pineapple

[wheat jay]

He 100% does

[fickle forge]

[nimble jasper]

I’ve seen so many abominations people call pizza

mostly from eu

[near delta]

This br guy must be like why tf do I keep getting atted. Lol

[fickle forge]

Now flashback to @wheat jay's hard to get arc

[copper hare]

It's actually insane here, most "restaurants" here where you can order usually sell every fucking thing from kebab, pasta and pizza to schnitzel

and everything is awful

[nimble jasper]

places that do everything

are generally sus

[copper hare]

but they usually call their place "italian pizza"

and then the owner is named like mohammed ali

[nimble jasper]

[ancient sonnet]

Would you play arms or fury in Kitty?

[wheat jay]

Bro im always playin'

Gotta get used to it

And prepare your mental for 10.0 glad push

[copper hare]

everything will be better than now

2.3 + mmr and already 10 min queues to face the same team over and over again

everyones just playing wrath I guess

[spice hornet]

any1 have any helpful macros for to learn arms?

[spice hornet]

[paper oracle]

you either sit in LFG for 6 hours, or sit in que for 6 hours

[spice hornet]

Yea I’m at 2390 all week with no one to play with just sit in LFG all day 😦

[sage raptor]

Can't wait to queue bdk in ranked solo queue

And prot warr

[copper hare]

will there be solo shuffle unranked and ranked

or just ranked

[ancient sonnet]

hopefully they remove prot queues

[copper hare]

Question is if they tend to mix them up with healers and not only tank vs tank

[sage raptor]

Both good questions

[ancient sonnet]

If they mix with heals it's just gonna be heals going 6-0 every time

[copper hare]

i don't mind it currently, you get insta queues as tank and games are way faster

but ranked? hell no

[copper hare]

Nah, my thoughts were towards healer/tank/dps vs healer/tank/dps or healer/dps/dps

[sage raptor]

I highly doubt they remove tanks

It'll be a bigger meme bracket than 2s

[ancient sonnet]

Wow, that sounds way worse than it is currently

[scarlet crown]

someone got a recommended plater profile?

[copper hare]

Well, it's happening in 3s more than enough sadly :D

I've never seen that many prot pala/fury/healer comps than now

[ancient sonnet]

Yea I think just removing tanks from pvp entirely is the play. Hell remove em from rBGs too since it's literally only guardians

[raw summit]

dont take away @elfin surge's main guys

thatd be toxic

[ancient sonnet]

huck huck

[spice hornet]

Yeah wtf let Mud play what he wants

[elfin surge]

this makes me want to talk less in this cord

[raw summit]

this is for removing the mies sound

[spice hornet]

[sage raptor]

Tank hate is funny

[wheat jay]

fuck prot pala in arena

[sage raptor]

As is the nature of pvp

[frank knoll]

What happened to that dude that played Prot warr to 3k like every season

[wheat crane]

Wont matter with ranked

Theyll sit at their 1500 rating

You wont see em after a week

[copper hare]

if prot pala has the same stupid healing as now, prolly not

gonna be fun having 10 min rounds on solo shuffle

imagine one solo shuffle 1 hour xd

[glass orchid]

games so dead theres more people playing pet battles than pvp

[wheat jay]

Cuz one is a minigame and other is actual content

[copper hare]

yeh 13 min queue on 2.4 mmr just to face double outlaw

id rather kms

[wheat jay]

I meant battle pets are content

Pvp is a minigame

With one or two cool rewards

[nimble jasper]

SL tabards

are sum booty

[wheat jay]

I only got s2

[nimble jasper]

SL enchants too

[copper hare]

it is, you know I always have a good laugh when pvp streamer and awc player complain about prize pools and no salary when tournaments have like 4k viewers hahaha

[wheat jay]

Enchants were amazing

[nimble jasper]

???

unchained fury sucks

there isnt an s4 enchant right

[wheat jay]

Nah there's like 5k during finals

[copper hare]

there is but its bugged as hell

[wheat jay]

S1 and s3 are good

S2 is kinda wack

[nimble jasper]

sinful flame is cool

but it doesnt turn your wep black enough

idk they all trash compared to the tyranny enchants

[lucid walrus]

there might as well not be

[copper hare]

newest one is eternal flux and you cant even see it on your weapon

its still bugged

[nimble jasper]

i got 2050 week 1 of the ssn

said this games trash

just doing pve stuff w/ guild till dragonbofa

[elder wigeon]

you can see eternal flux on your weapons

[copper hare]

yeah but barely

there is like a moving thing

[nimble jasper]

do i bother

finishing

prob

idk i saw aff lock doing sustained 10k dps

[elder wigeon]

not every enchant needs to be overwhelming

[nimble jasper]

and was like

ok

need prenerf glorious tyranny

[copper hare]

pvp enchants have to be!

[elder wigeon]

affs do 15K if they're not dogwater or playing against a MW

[copper hare]

demonic tyranny is still the best illusion ever made

change my mind

[nimble jasper]

yeah i said

10k

week 1

[elder wigeon]

bloody dancing steel was the best it's not even a debate

[nimble jasper]

before everyone sweatlorded

max gear

XD

[copper hare]

come 1v1 aim map

[nimble jasper]

i feel if i play again

im gonna get gear gaped

by hardstuck rival 2 dh/fury players

who have like over 1k games of 2v2 already

[copper hare]

no, instead of complaining you just grind one weekend full

[nimble jasper]

yeah im aware

[copper hare]

I farmed full gear first uncapped week in 2 days of vacation, I was done, but at least i dont have to worry anymore

[near delta]

I've been learning feral and the gear gap at mordor low rating is insane

[nimble jasper]

its more of how much i wanna play

this clownshoes season

than if its difficult

[copper hare]

the weirdest thing is.. you make like a 3v3 group with your alt for conquest farming and its also in the description, but lfg people still get insta mad after one lose and leave

literally the dumbest thing

[nimble jasper]

always fun

queueing into full geared dhs with 0 awareness at mordor mmr

yeah

i never claim im good at my alt too

[copper hare]

same, i just write like mglad alt lf conquest farm, then people expect glad push or something

:D

when you just wanna farm gear

[nimble jasper]

my friends raid guild

has an hpal who brags about their 1 career glad in cosmic

2.5 glad as hpriest btw

[near delta]

I played with super toxic enh last night

[nimble jasper]

plays nf+stun so i assume

not an rmp priest

[near delta]

Dude was 2560 in s2 and didn't get glad

[copper hare]

I just dont understand the lfg + no voice + leave after first loss mentality

[nimble jasper]

yeah

i give people 3 at least

maybe 2 if i see some turbo int

[copper hare]

like you dont need to be insane, you just have to play some time together and build synergy

[nimble jasper]

or some people

who mald when they get the shaodwlands special

of 1 dinged

[lucid walrus]

game's almost tolerable when you stop taking it seriously

[sage raptor]

Relatable

[elder wigeon]

I'm still surprised there's no pvp stormforged

[spice hornet]

I vote @elfin surge for PvP stormforged representative

[lucid walrus]

once upon a time

[undone pumice]

games almost tolerable if you play for 4 months a year

[fickle forge]

Apply for it

[elder wigeon]

you apply?

[fickle forge]

No chance

[elder wigeon]

LMAO

I was asking if you apply as in it's a thing

[fickle forge]

😎

Idk tbh, last time it happened people just asked

[elder wigeon]

i see

[near delta]

Looks like season will be over in 30 days thank god

[spice hornet]

How

[warm quiver]

Guessing bc prepatch hit the ptr

[near delta]

Yup

[undone pumice]

will it be worth to return for prepatch?

[lucid walrus]

depends on what cool shit is dropped

[warm quiver]

I think it’s still 6 weeks left in season. Didn’t that leak say prepatch late October ?

[near delta]

The prepatch is on the PTR now so def possible but looking more like early october

[copper hare]

no way they rush it like that

bad omen

[spice hornet]

I remember the maw had like nothing to do in it like 2 weeks before release kekw

[craggy socket]

You have no idea if its rushed or not

[frank knoll]

I’m hearing Oct 28th for prepatch

[craggy socket]

What comps are best for warriors in wrath

Not sure why we have wrath and pre patch at the same time

rip

[lucid walrus]

tsg was nuts in wrath

we’re better out of the gate too bc of 3.3.5 balancing being a thing iirc

[craggy socket]

is ret/warr a comp? I got a buddy playing ret trying to figure out what to play with him

[lucid walrus]

apparently thunder is/was really good too

dunno about ret/war but p much any plate was good then

[spice hornet]

does shadow dance have a cd

[lucid walrus]

no

[hallow lance]

Hi there, could u help me with some advices pls, im getting nuked by mm hunters, or rogue/mage, i apreciate if there is any tip to me

[wheat crane]

Rm is miserable but mm you can stop with disarm stun fear on cds and go on offense

[warped warren]

[full quiver]

lol

yes mm you can stop with 3 cool downs

[scarlet barn]

Skyhold doesnt really respect PVP boys

[elder wigeon]

odd

[warped warren]

[wheat jay]

Well we have a history of being toxic, fat hating, not rly acceptive bunch

Deleted history to be precise

We're like german car manufacturers after war, we rebranded

[languid whale]

🥺

[undone pumice]

the worst omen was when they said dragonflight 2022

wtf based artji

[merry lantern]

is gavel worth in pvp arena?

as fury warrior

[elder wigeon]

if the item level is the same it's better

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/crusader3455-crusader-gif-26554983

[raw summit]

Bring back the sound alert

[spice hornet]

Still can’t figure out if he’s truly like that

Or he just acts that way on stream

[near delta]

He's really like that lol

[spice hornet]

I’ve noticed you have to be kinda off

To main healer in WoW

[near delta]

I remember when I first started playing wow I'd see his clips and just assumed he played dps then totally wtfd when I realized he was playing hpal

[graceful ginkgo]

is d-stance getting un-nerfed in df? in the talent tree it's back to 20% dr and 10% less dmg dealt...not sure about in pvp tho

[near delta]

I meant to check it in war mode

[near delta]

lmao umm there you go

Looks like the tooltip doesnt even work so inconclusive

Could probably test with someone later maybe

[past jolt]

Effect is 0.4x in arena

All effects *

[raw summit]

A 311 prolly worth it for 2s

[past jolt]

For fury, possibly

[raw summit]

Cuz even at 0.4 it's still like 200k dam

[past jolt]

Not arms

[raw summit]

Needs uptime yea

[past jolt]

You lose too much vers

[raw summit]

Yep

[past jolt]

Also the disease one can be dispelled

[raw summit]

Oh

LMAO

Swap shield on and then equip pvp wep

[past jolt]

Yes, you’re looking for the bleed

[raw summit]

500 str one also good

[past jolt]

The bleed does great damage still

The disease too but it’ll be dispelled

Id disease dispeller

[raw summit]

Also heals for no fucking reason

[past jolt]

Yes, as an arms warrior the only pve wep I’d risk trying is jathlys

Bc of haste crit

[scarlet barn]

Gavel

[graceful ginkgo]

ok, we'll just have to wait...thx mate, I am too lazy to test it in a duel or something tbh

[near delta]

Yeah even if it isn't they might fix it later

[graceful ginkgo]

keaj

jeah

is the fury ms like live wow so far?

[near delta]

Pretty sure yeah but gonna be much harder to keep it up without tier

[graceful ginkgo]

makes sense, jeah

[raw summit]

Signet

[full quiver]

Can u link macro

[thick reef]

should I save up for 1 2 hander or both for fury, seems like a lot to save without getting any other gear

[radiant rapids]

That’s your legendary.. signet of tormented kings like phil said

[elfin surge]

fr

why am i not yet

wtf

[scarlet barn]

Because
A, you barely spend time here besides when somebody pings you
B, you have communicative skill of barbarian
C, you never asked

[elfin surge]

im always here

[spice hornet]

[elfin surge]

B is true

C i am now

[scarlet barn]

D, you lost 3 times in row to fury/feral mirror

[raw summit]

E, you play prot

[elfin surge]

i dont body shame like some people here

[raw summit]

Ok but post bench

[scarlet barn]

@fickle forge

[spice hornet]

[fickle forge]

He's qualified

Raise the man up

[scarlet barn]

@elfin surge you must ping Archi first

In this channel

[spice hornet]

@slim saffron lord archi the pvp channel/group don’t have a stormforged member, we ask if you can make Mud our rep here so he can take care of us

[slim saffron]

what's in it for me?

[raw summit]

Taco

[fickle forge]

Burrito

[spice hornet]

Being featured on Muds stream tonight for some double warrior 2v2 queues

[versed canopy]

bullet dodged

[copper hare]

But it's better though

[past jolt]

u need 1 orange parse on any raid tier amongst any population to become stormforged unless its pvp then u need 21 rank 1 titles and PhD

[formal steppe]

is fury still better than arms?

[versed canopy]

both are competitive, fury is just easier and more forgiving

[formal steppe]

what do people play more currently?

[versed canopy]

fury, for those reasons

[spice hornet]

Fury

[formal steppe]

skill capped says fury is s and arms a

[full quiver]

@elfin surge will you be canceling stream tonight due to the unfortunate passing of the queen

[spice hornet]

[main barn]

is there a certain time of day best to q to push rating? like off-hours vs busy hours or something?

[elfin surge]

the higher cr the more degen the hours for qs

[elfin surge]

my love

[slim saffron]

get in line, pal

[sage raptor]

Unfortunate?

[spice hornet]

[humble frost]

theres a "solo que rating" under characters profiles for the ptr

looks ike there will be comp solo que

[formal steppe]

Is single minded fury still trash?

[spice hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[past jolt]

ya

[formal steppe]

do you still have to wear verse in every slot no matter what or is itemlevel better now that trinket verse got nerfed?

[past jolt]

it looks like they're tryna do something with it in dragonflight but

bc of the extra stats itll probably never be worth in pvp

[formal steppe]

Is ring/neck or wrist/cloak bis for legendaries in season 4 in pvp?

[nimble jasper]

considering having unity on a big slot like chest at 291 is bad yes

[sharp meteor]

whwnever u get queues where matchup doesn't suck

if it's just you and two outlaw teams go play an alt

[nimble jasper]

i memba s4 bfa i got the freest wins

queueing into a korean vulpera turbo

at noon

[formal steppe]

ye but are ring/neck or wrist/cloak better? secondary stats or primary stat?

[sharp meteor]

i wanted to play furbo but my sham won't not play orc

[nimble jasper]

only the warrior was vulpera

[sharp meteor]

oh dang is there another one

[nimble jasper]

no idea if they still play

it was that and a korean destro havoc hpal

[nimble jasper]

primary generally better

really doesnt matter

[sharp meteor]

doomed to be titleless bandit so no sense in playing orc

[formal steppe]

better so worse for leg?

[nimble jasper]

i mean….

[sharp meteor]

i will sit 7 second kidneys as a fox and my healers will lament

[nimble jasper]

most pvpers are broke mfs

and lego rings are more expensive

so idk your funds

[sharp meteor]

ya put it wherever it doesn't matter

[formal steppe]

idc for gold

i care for bis

[sharp meteor]

then compare the gear and reach your own conclusion

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[sharp meteor]

as it'll depend on your preference for stats

[formal steppe]

no i mean bis in the end

[nimble jasper]

i pve too so i have pve gear options as well

[formal steppe]

i dont want to change it later

[lucid walrus]

who cares

[sharp meteor]

but in the end it doesn't matter

[lucid walrus]

season over in like a month

[nimble jasper]

i have like

5 unities

lol

[sharp meteor]

what does that even mean

[formal steppe]

i remember going wrist signet instead of rings in season 1 while everyone went ring "to trade rings with raid mates"

[lucid walrus]

sounds like a pve issue

[formal steppe]

ye but that means even in season 1 wrist was more stats than ring i suppose

so ring is better now

[nimble jasper]

rings give alot of secondary

thats also a thing

[formal steppe]

is verse or strength better in pvp right now?

[nimble jasper]

usually str but barely makes a diff

orc vs non orc prob a bigger deal than where your unity is

and even that only matters at the top

[formal steppe]

i play human anyways

[nimble jasper]

eww

not being able to trinket disarms for the kill

[formal steppe]

i get 1 % verse

[nimble jasper]

does nothing

sitting in kidney for 2 secs is mor impactful

@elfin surge famous prot pvper where unity?

[near delta]

Tabard

[spice hornet]

Any1 know what power for unity?

[formal steppe]

are the mechagon rings any good in pvp?

if you have 3 spells + haste on 304

obviously no verse

[copper hare]

Guys, I need a DR addon for my group frames, any suggestion

didnt work with omnicd or

[scarlet barn]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-confirms-binding-shot-nerf-is-intentional-consistency-with-other-root-328762?webhook

[spice hornet]

Happy for that lol made me sad when some ape hunter is railing you while you sit this root

Never sit bindings anymore as furry tho

[copper hare]

Would really love to play an alt right now but there are still no conquest boxes with like 6-7 weeks season left

thank you blizz

[spice hornet]

Same

[elder wigeon]

Yep I’d love to collect a free r1 with assassination

[spice hornet]

Am I the only one who thinks NL assass dmg is disgusting rn

[elder wigeon]

it is disgusting

[nimble jasper]

what changed this season

[spice hornet]

Idk but it does unhealabke dam and has a joke rotation

[nimble jasper]

i swear NL assass fucked last season and people said I was on copium

it always had more sustained dam imo

[spice hornet]

It presses vendetta and instantly 50% of your hp is gone somehow, then the dmg hits

[nimble jasper]

just sepsis cheese existed

it also just has more resources

[spice hornet]

Not to mention NL has a one shot build with a similar TTK as prenerf sepsis

[nimble jasper]

since bonespike is very combo point efficient

for its energy costs

[nimble jasper]

prob doomblade

gives like 30% increase to envenoms

raz looks like hes been playing some hella spooky shit on eu tho

outlaw with double mythic veinripper

seen it do like 13% of his overall dam

[elder wigeon]

nah you play short vendetta or you play the vanish combo point lego for 1 shot

[nimble jasper]

tho veinripper outlaw prob rare since you have to raid mythic alot for just one

[copper hare]

I don't think I have seen a single assa so far

[elder wigeon]

there's a lot of them

[copper hare]

at least they die

:-)

[spice hornet]

debatable

[sharp meteor]

dinar and heroic-mythic kills

[spice hornet]

all rogue specs take too long to kill

[elder wigeon]

assassination rogues don't really die

[spice hornet]

Also you can’t ever trinket offensively into that class. Just isn’t fair.

[copper hare]

Idk it's day n night facing sub over outlaw for example

can't even track omnibar for outlaw because shit is bugged

[full quiver]

Lol

[fickle forge]

When we face sub, our rule is I can't trinket anything but duel, else I'll die in duel

[spice hornet]

Yeppppp

Ability just needs to be deleted

[fickle forge]

Smokebomb? You have to sit it bro, I'll bubble and come save you

[spice hornet]

Shits unreal

[nimble jasper]

bomb bust

for trinket

[fickle forge]

Lol this idiot trinketed Combust+triple resonator, he'll die in duel next go

Followed by the complex rotation of evis into evis into evis

[elder wigeon]

very difficult

[wheat crane]

600 iq class

[copper hare]

Have you guys even seen the drainer clip with sub rogue

https://www.twitch.tv/drainerx/clip/AbstruseElegantArtichokeMoreCowbell-NfbXCsTKg1HfaXww?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

[fickle forge]

The clown music too

[near delta]

Sir, it's far more complicated than that. Occasionally they have to press shadowstrike.

[full quiver]

Lol

[high sparrow]

sometimes they even have to cheap shot, assuming you didnt already die in the kidney

(very rare)

[spice hornet]

Being kidney should make you immune to cheap shot for like 10 sec

Playing non orc and being 7 sec kidney into cheap is just

[near delta]

Been playing nelf on my feral and those kidneys feel like they last forever

[spice hornet]

Yeah on my dh im just like fuckkkkk

[copper hare]

You know whats funny? lfg healers acting like you have an actual chance vs outlaw rdruid

and then they start asking why it takes so long to kill xd

[spice hornet]

Ya as furry that’s a game where you just afk out of

[near delta]

Damn only one r1 mage rn

[spice hornet]

dang those poor mages :/

[indigo barn]

Xaryu was right, mages need deep freeze

[sage raptor]

I made an orc because people kept saying things like that

Then I realized

It doesn't matter the race

Because the rogue will stun you anyway

And you die

So I'll play what I like

[spice hornet]

You’re right, you usually die in the first like 3-4 anyway

[past jolt]

The ladder is an abomination

I jumped on wrath classic :/

[near delta]

I've been wanting to play wrath but the queue times are unbearable

[past jolt]

Just jump on a less populated server

I guess that’s not ideal

It’s really bad yes

All my chars are on faerlina or benediction, it wasn’t an issue when I was in the eu but now it is

[sage raptor]

It's not really bad. There are other active pvp servers that aren't full lol

[past jolt]

Pvp doesn’t matter

Pvp pve it’s irrelevant in classic

[sage raptor]

Then there are even more options

[past jolt]

For what? If he wants to play on those servers there’s a long q time

[sage raptor]

Not for every server

[past jolt]

🤷‍♀️ ppl can roll where they please

[warped warren]

nop)

[elder wigeon]

it's relevant in the case where there's no cross server ques

pve servers have a lower pvp playerbase

obviously

[sharp meteor]

It'd be fine for frost.

18s db is 10x the abomination

and enables a similar thing

[indigo barn]

Enables easy sheeps

[proven maple]

Sitting at 2k-2050 and can’t seem to push to 2.1 in 2s cuz I end up playing against 10 combat rogues and get gatekept back down. Any advice for beating outlaw/x heals in 2s

[lean burrow]

Play prot

||idk||

[raw summit]

Advice? Hope they fumble

[warped warren]

advice? make no mistakes and still lose

unless they lay down infront of you

gg

bg i mena

[proven maple]

Literally have them running at me and throwing cc into bladestorms. Etc. and still winning easily.

[raw summit]

We're at their mercy

They got a pulse, they gonna win

[warped warren]

yep, state of rogues

[past jolt]

Lots of high pop pve servers with ppl doing PvP but I understand

[wild phoenix]

So i messed around with a buddy in pvp last night. Showed up as my usual pve tank.
And I did a lot better than I expected. Prot war is annoying to kill and great fun

[raw summit]

Tanks in arena doesnt make you popular

[scarlet barn]

Yea

Look at @elfin surge

[steep inlet]

Prot war isn’t toxic

No heals

No offheals

Nice dmgs

[elfin surge]

😵‍💫

[steep inlet]

Prot war is the coolest version of tanks in arena btw

i played it a bit you can still die and you cannot heal mates

[wild phoenix]

Oh I got my shit pushed in a few times

But I was hard and hopefully annoying to kill and had great fun

[sage raptor]

Prot war is unironically the most fun and fair tank spec in pvp

[graceful ginkgo]

Blizz should indicate in shuffle if there‘s Tanks or Healers

[fickle forge]

Until you play the melee cleave and realise prot warr makes his pal take 40% less phys dmg

Enjoy hitting into perma wall

[sage raptor]

You can play around that

[fickle forge]

Tanks can be okay when they don't slow games down to a snail's pace, which they all do really

[sage raptor]

They do

[graceful ginkgo]

No

You cant see b4 accepting queue

[sage raptor]

Oh I see

Don't you want fast games?

[graceful ginkgo]

I dont wanna play with tanks

It shifts balance more to self sufficient specs, those that work without heals

[sage raptor]

And it makes games faster

[graceful ginkgo]

Besides prot pal busted

So let ppl choose

You can play with tanks

[wild phoenix]

For rated or "serious" matches yeah.

But I'm just fucking off in unrated bg and area

[warped warren]

so literally any comp these days

[fickle forge]

Unless you're a Chad KFC enjoyer

[warped warren]

[paper oracle]

i'm pretty sure i have more games played as KFC than you do this season

[fickle forge]

I'm pretty sure you do not

[lean burrow]

I remember someone sent screenshot of a game vs outlaw/rdruid/someone that lasted 11 min

was it really even worse in BfA?

[past jolt]

Even mud is grinding wrath

You know it’s time to abort retail

[lean burrow]

is he playing prot there too?

[warped warren]

he is for sure

[lean burrow]

[spice hornet]

[fickle forge]

Nice

[nimble jasper]

yes bfa 2s could go into 95% damp

[fickle forge]

BFA S3 DK+guardian druid+MW

Definition of "game doesn't start till 15 minutes"

[nimble jasper]

anyone who played guardian fdk 3s

can fuck off

[sharp meteor]

just @ flark and supa buddy

[past jolt]

Supa flute

The rap king

[wet scarab]

man looking at the fatality proc rates in its current iteration no fight involving a warrior in pvp is likely to last longer than 2 mins

assuming average uptime

[spice hornet]

We need dat

[near delta]

Battlelord actually feels super good too

Can get some crazy OP/MS spam going

[wet scarab]

someone posted this in the DF arms channel after 10 mins on a dummy

[green wyvern]

I'm always full rage with battlelord + Expose the weakness

so decided to invest into whirlwind by taking storm of swords and dump all rage into it

[wet scarab]

3 mins is about 39 procs according to archie

[green wyvern]

whirlwind hits hard

[frank knoll]

Anyone else not really a fan of wrath classic

[copper hare]

I personally really liked wrath back then and still think it's a great expac, but people trying so hard to have a perfect raid setup for the easiest raid content in 17 years of wow, fucked up economy and gold dkp, all the sellrun and boosting shit, long server queues just doesn't make it fun or worth it anymore

[frank knoll]

I feel like it’s going to take the equivalent of a part time job for my wrath char to be good

[lucid walrus]

it’s aged well, wow culture today is just incompatible with that iteration of the game

[frank knoll]

Whereas in retail takes about a week

[warped warren]

so same as shadowlands has been

)

[copper hare]

Nah, it actually goes really fast. You only have to do daily stuff in first 2-3 weeks before the raid, after that you can login for raids only

[lucid walrus]

we waited two weeks just to try covenants and swap back prior to 9.1

[frank knoll]

I don’t wanna raid at all though

[warped warren]

then dont

?XD

[frank knoll]

In wrath
Is there anything else ti do if you dont raid. Cause you need to raid in order tj PvP right

[warped warren]

XD

[copper hare]

No, you don't

[frank knoll]

Okay

I always thought to PvP in any classic WoW version, you have to get broken raid gear ti be viable or GG

Like Shadowmourne

[warped warren]

in order to be viable

you need to be half decent at the game

[copper hare]

There will be shadowmournes obviously a couple months after icc releases which is really impactful, but if you ain't pushing r1, it's not needed

The only items besides shadowmourne who are decent or nice to have are the armor pen trinkets (naxx grim toll, ulduar runestone, icc deathbreakers will) apart from these trinkets and Shadowmourne pvp gear is plenty enough to play at the highest level

[warped warren]

sts 😴

you play with dmc til toc if not icc btw

[sharp meteor]

when u don't queue into a single outlaw rogue

[frank knoll]

DK is cracked rn

3 attacks = half ur hp

[warped warren]

when you dont play the game

[sharp meteor]

i need my fourth welfare dragon

[frank knoll]

In questing blues out dpsing ppl in sunwell gear

Even blood DK does a ton of damage rn

BGs have long queues
10-25 mins

[wet scarab]

I get all my butt clench workouts done for the week in the first 20 seconds of every unholy dk match

[full quiver]

Blood dk on vanilla wotlk was fucking busted

Dancing rune weapon did so much dam

[wheat jay]

Have you tried not playing the game and enjoying detox until 10.0?

[sharp meteor]

If the expansion is delayed then it'll be break time.

[wheat jay]

Lmao fair fair

[sharp meteor]

I've already been on a bit of a break learning healing in keys which is infinitely less stressful than queuing arena for the first few weeks.

[frank knoll]

My buddy who would clown me for playing retail just had to quit because he finished grad school and has a real job. The dude was a guild officer and typed out a professional resignation letter to send his guild when he quit

[wheat jay]

Pve overall is less stressful

And imo tanking m+ is the most fun and engaging pve content

[spice hornet]

Wonder why he’d quit lol the most stable period of my life was when I graduated and was able to easily make a set raid schedule cause of a full time job being consistent

[sharp meteor]

Yeah, was originally gonna tank as blood or prot warr but decided to mix it up and heal, which has been super chill because if we wipe it's 99% of the time somebody else borking up.

gg dps bungled kicks 2 people died insta go next

No 5 minutes of sitting kidney/disarm

[spice hornet]

Healing high level meta wirh a good group is chill af, either they avoid mechanics and kick or they get 1 shot nothing you can do lol

Keys* not meta

[sharp meteor]

Yaaa

[wheat jay]

Ye healing is chill

Tanking is more engaging

[sharp meteor]

It's just a nice change of pace

[wheat jay]

Since you're the playmaker

[sharp meteor]

will probs tank and heal in DF

as only so much to do in pvp

[wheat jay]

Im 100% tanking m+

Warrior main, and survi for boosting Kargish in pvp

[warped warren]

"warrior main"

hear that? @fickle forge

[spice hornet]

@last geodeuin for stormforged pvp rep

[fickle forge]

Yeah I've seen his warrior

I'd say he's

[warped warren]

XD

[frank knoll]

He’s a petrol engineer and has to go away for weeks at a time to work in remote areas

[frank knoll]

Yeah RDruid is a fun healer to m+ as tbh

[scarlet crown]

def stance still being used a lot for PvP or less?

[sharp meteor]

i mean if you're trading unfavorably it makes you trade less favorably

seems better than leap in most cases but really you want to play to avoid ever having to press it

[scarlet crown]

okay thankss!

[elder wigeon]

i pretty much only go d-stance to trade against heavy heavy cds when I know I won't be doing anywhere near as much dmg as they will and or know I'll be going into a cc chain very soon

like, going d-stance off stun DR vs assassination rogue

or against RMP being off stun DR and you know they wanna try to go you

[scarlet crown]

gotcha!

[elder wigeon]

10% damage reduction isn't very much

in reality against RMP it'll only save you as if you had 10.6k more health lol

so imagine having 117K health as if that would save you against CD's, it won't

[scarlet crown]

true

[elder wigeon]

it'll help save you against goes from RMP where they don't commit anything more than shadow dance lol

[near delta]

It's like 1 to 2 minutes on Groban alliance lol

[sage raptor]

Is the heroic leap aoe grip for every spec?

[raw summit]

Yea

[sage raptor]

Spear and aoe grip? Lol no one is going anywhere.

[nimble jasper]

making your leap a 1.5min cd tho

[thick reef]

^^

[sage raptor]

Ooof yeah

[elder wigeon]

heroic leap aoe grip? huh?

[sage raptor]

Ye

[near delta]

I'd be pissed if leap became a raid utility that I couldn't use when I want

[indigo barn]

Just be based and use it only for extra dps

[sage raptor]

Yeah

It's what I do with PI

My pi

Only people who don't ask for it get it.

Ie never warlocks or mages

[fickle forge]

Give it to the feral

Watch the mald

[sage raptor]

What's the worst spec I could give it to?

[fickle forge]

Possibly feral

[sage raptor]

Interesting

I want to give it to someone's pet.

[lucid walrus]

really? feral?

thought giving em quicker bleeds would be big idk. do they just overcap like crazy or lose windows to capitalize on dots or smth?

[fickle forge]

I mean every spec likes haste right

Hard to think if any who doesn't

[sage raptor]

A random warlock imp

[rapid shore]

mw?

:D

[sharp meteor]

Feels nice in 2v2.

[uncut pollen]

Feral is probably the least dps

Their gcd isn’t hasted, and 30-40% of damage comes from bite

Convoke damage is also not hasted

[lucid walrus]

neat

[shut plover]

This is only NF ferals, which most Ferals don’t play in pvp

[fickle forge]

Average discord replier

[lean burrow]

someone wrote a few minutes ago?
Must hit reply

[lean burrow]

[fickle forge]

[lean burrow]

nitro user

[shut plover]

only saying that there's a diff between nf and necro feral, pi on a necro feral with frenzy/beserk is pretty juicy. but ok i'm an average discord replier

[fickle forge]

Yeah except you're replying to a dude talking about raiding

[shut plover]

He did post about who to PI in the pvp channel, but thanks for pointing out my mistake and keeping the channel safe!

[raw summit]

🙏

[slate arrow]

what pvp talent build against MM hunter?

Pvp talents that is. and general playstyle? I feel like slows etc doesn't work

low uptime, tried playing double charge etc

tried disarm

[lean burrow]

bloodrage disarm stun

and pray

[past jolt]

Try warbringer and double time, it may not be a counter strategy but it’s at least very amusing

The charge root pisses them off

[mighty fractal]

You'll get fucked with binding shot if you don't take bloodrage

And you need both slaughterhouse and disarm vs marks

So warbringer is too high of opportunity cost imo

But double time is key so they're not capitalizing on you after you charge or leap with trueshot double tap

But I'm also a monkey and press charge at the wrong time so if you're not a meathead like me 1 charge prolly enough

[fickle forge]

You can just dispel binding

[sharp meteor]

root break too good

both for uptime and dmg (lots of rage)

[sharp meteor]

not if crossed

also frees up dispel for partner in 3s

[fickle forge]

Feel like you're overestimating hunter players if you think they play around cross

[sharp meteor]

idk what to make of that

[fickle forge]

It's pretty clear in the headline really

[warped warren]

hunter players are dumb

[calm lichen]

I'm recording a Warrior DF PVP Roundtable at 2pm EDT today with @untold fjord and @pale karma
https://www.twitch.tv/bonusrollproductions

[lean burrow]

advertisements in my comfy pvp channel

[calm lichen]

If the Mods feel it shouldn't be here, I will happily remove.

[lean burrow]

not like there's #promotion but whatever

not my server

[calm lichen]

True.

[warped warren]

[fickle forge]

[full kiln]

hows arms war

[warped warren]

arms is great

in wrath

[lean burrow]

nothing's changed, fury is still strong

just not against rogues

[exotic flint]

Has anyone got a link to a warrior build for playing 2s with ret?

[lean burrow]

murlok.io

[wheat crane]

Just play your normal build but take impending victory

[exotic flint]

Ty

[raw summit]

Didnt get mud

Very sad

[spice hornet]

He needs to be our stormforged rep

Either him or @bruin

[past jolt]

I think he’s doing a pod cast

He pays those guys money to show up so maybe you should give him a pass

[lean burrow]

[pale karma]

no one gets paid, these are done for the benefit of the community who, imo, should be thankful he takes the time to organize them.

[raw summit]

[fickle forge]

Old man lives

[past jolt]

Oh damn, they didn’t even throw u a 2 piece

[sage raptor]

I'm a fatty so I prefer the 20 piece

[lean burrow]

not my server

[slate arrow]

when do you use impending victory my fellow warriors?

ever use it with healer?

[spice hornet]

not rlly in 2s

sometimes use it in tsg

as furry only tho

[lean burrow]

supposedly when uptime is not a problem and stun is not needed?

[full quiver]

I used it vs double dps in 2s

[sharp meteor]

i play pend vs disc/hunter i think and that's it

might be good in 3s with like a dk or dh

[copper hare]

you also pretty much always play it in kitty or with outlaw in 3s

[amber harness]

arms vs fury in rbg? I feel like arms has bladestorm more often and it spreading MS is strong i guess?

[copper hare]

Play what you want tbh, I prefer kyrian arms on small maps like gilneas, you literally obliterate people if they're stacked, but arms feels dogshit on big maps without mobility

[full quiver]

Fury has more sustainable in randoms

Where your healerbprib sucks

[amber harness]

yeah hard to judge

I kinda dislike kyrian as arms because Im not crit geared, I went for the haste build

[lean burrow]

chad mastery build

[sharp meteor]

full haste arms feels bad

need some crit in there

[elder wigeon]

Need lots of crit

[spice hornet]

Mastery stack night fae arms rend build

[lucid walrus]

get you a feral

[lean burrow]

opponents type /afk because of sheer chadness

[little lava]

any tips as ret/war/disco vs rsham/feral/fury?

[copper hare]

we actually faced ww/night fae arms/disc a couple times

65k aftershock was the highest ive seen

[little lava]

it was Illilll?

xd

[copper hare]

yeah

They just globaled my sham through wall in one global xd

[near delta]

Are you running kyrian? Kleia phial into the first berserk totally shuts down the ferals go and helps get the momentum going.

[little lava]

nah

necro

[sharp meteor]

don't u just dome the rsham

or clobber the fury

[near delta]

Both sound like good options

[little lava]

u are all wrong

leader of the pack + impending on fury

unkillable

and what do u mean dome rsham?

[spice hornet]

Fuck him up

Ret war kills rshammys

[sage raptor]

Only thing ret/warr kills is brain cells

[little lava]

rshamy kiting around pillar and his dps are killing us while we los the healer

[little lava]

we can only kill him on stun but he gets intervene and cyclones

we try to fear druid so he dont cyclone but war has immune

[near delta]

How are yall doing on damage relative to the other team?

[spice hornet]

Feel like some other specs be pumpinnreally hard rn

[near delta]

Ye

Boomies are insane

60k starsurges

[spice hornet]

Yep I talked about that couple days ago

[past jolt]

Which other teams

[past jolt]

Boomy is only high on meter as meme mastery build in which case they can’t peel with cyclone