didnt condemn also reduce enemy dmg?
#pvp
spice hornet
ye that was good in s1 but didn't scale well either
it gave u a dmg absorb
from the target u hit
amber harness
idk for 2s i think it could be pretty good still, if u dont need def from necro and kyrian spear gets immuned by anyone anyways
spice hornet
doesnt hit that hard and health pools high now
left storm
guys please advice me against countering mm hunter's opener. They are a nightmare to me lol. I keep getting one shot right at the start. Los'ing them does not work either..
spice hornet
leap on him and disarm, fear, or bolt
if hes pillaring with the kyrian shit then u need to leap away or have externals from your partner
its rough, the mm hunter is very painful right now for a warrior specially if theres a rogue
lean burrow
About bolt vs hunter
When would you use it?
E.g. disarm has the same cd as death chakram, so disarm is traded for it
What do I trade against with stun?
spice hornet
dont need to trade disarm for death chak
i do it on his trueshot/doubletap
trueshot 2min doubletap 1min
left storm
yeah i get stunned by a druid or a rogue and then mm is just waiting to unleash that 100% crit damage which is very hard for me as a war and my healer to avoid or do something about it
lean burrow
And the second use of stun just on cd?
spice hornet
i stun or fear if he trinkets the disarm
then hes usually fugged after that and behind all game
while u W key him
if theyre good at high rating tho its tougher
spice hornet
u can disarm every double tap
killing him lol, if he disengages just stun, or charge, or piercing, never use all of them
left storm
They can apparantely shoot through the freaking pillars aswell
lean burrow
Feels so weird to stun when hunter disengages
Very awkward running towards him while he is stunned
spice hornet
have to trade something, you will never touch him otherwise
spice hornet
a good rdruid/mm will p much always beat you in 2s at higher rating, too much control for you
lean burrow
I guess that's what I was missing, I spend charge and stun together to freely hit them during stun
spice hornet
rdruid will spam stun/root/clones all game while hunter just max ranges you and scatters you if you get near
lean burrow
Or just 2s balance, yeah
I'm so used to dt+warbringer I don't know when to use stun now
spice hornet
just dont do 2s as a warrior unless you want depression
lean burrow
spice hornet
just gets so frustrating the higher you go
left storm
That is with every spec i guess
willow wraith
What’s wrong with warrior 2s?
elder wigeon
What’s wrong with warrior 2s?
It’s very not fun
outlaw/survival rdruid is a hellacious nightmare for you as well
any hunter spec honestly
MM hunters are scary as fuck when they're good too
full quiver
you just jumping from the boiling pot into the fire
going for DK to war in 2s
from*
willow wraith
I was serious on my dk until I played 3 holy priest outlaw comps in a row pre nerf
If that was gonna be my future I didn’t want it
Oh ur gonna kill me *fly, oh ur gonna kill me, vanish, oh u have 1 min CD disarm, cloak, gfade
Actually wanted to kms
lucid walrus
play hunter or rogue if you wanna be strong in both facets of arena rn
willow wraith
I don’t mind mm occasionally but It’s only my meh to me
thick reef
just dont do 2s as a warrior unless you want depression
ya war isnt that good in 2s into alot of things
lol
thick reef
hunter has been king of 2s
hunter and rogues fucking pwn 2s rofl
spice hornet
playing fury into outlaw 2s makes me legitimately want to end my life
spice hornet
evasion
fluid surge
2s with rsham will dh be better than fury?
nimble jasper
fury outlaw 2s is basically a healer check
if the rogue’s healer isnt complete shit you just
autolose
some healers are just bad tho
and die to fury
spice hornet
outlaw rdruid
spice hornet
thick reef
dude
ya
but when u get
anyone who knows how to deal with fury
its a auto lose it feels
nimble jasper
i got bored once
thick reef
thats why u dont q it in 2s
yea lol its aids
nimble jasper
below 2.1 it seems most healers
thick reef
ya i got bored as well qued it with some friends n got no where rofl
nimble jasper
cant handle fury pressure
thick reef
ya
thick reef
after that they know what to do
nimble jasper
fall off a cliff
nimble jasper
no
thick reef
o
nimble jasper
i oddly enough like outlaw mirrors
spice hornet
pretty much
nimble jasper
cuz i never lose them
thick reef
ah
nimble jasper
yeah
full quiver
Unless the outlaw is retarded lol
nimble jasper
if you both have priests
whichever priest knows how to press fear
on their rogue’s kidney wins
some priests dont
idk how
i had a really bad outlaw disc team almost win
cuz his random as shit disarm stopped me from kidneying his mindy g recast
thick reef
dude
every game against outlaw as fury im kidneyed but in healers line with no cc
n he just cant outhheal it
maybe hes bad idk
nimble jasper
yeah idk
people were super cringe who played cdr last season
playing big dam build is funny tho
thick reef
ye
spice hornet
what does outlaw healer vs outlaw healer do
nimble jasper
or in the infamous case where the rogue is hitting me
then i just go on his healer
and flurry them both
💀
@thick reef i havent played much this ssn but no team so far has managed to survive
the second resonator go
thick reef
as outlaw?
nimble jasper
yeah
thick reef
rofl yea i always have to vene 2nd go on res usally
or stack
or else healer just falls
lucid walrus
what does outlaw healer vs outlaw healer do
101% damp
thick reef
yeah that happned
it was prob u LOL that we lost against
but my sham sat full kidney and died last sec of it to res
thick reef
wait u can
nimble jasper
for unknown reasons
nimble jasper
yes
lucid walrus
it’s bugged to be 90% dodge
thick reef
ya it sounds like it
spice hornet
yup all 2s DHs are 200 rating higher than normal bc of it
nimble jasper
yeah
thick reef
rofl i remebmer dhs doing that all the time
nimble jasper
or have to trade trinket everything
lucid walrus
aight bro when can we parry from behind
nimble jasper
for opening sweep
thick reef
ya
thick reef
ya LOL
nimble jasper
ofc theres the classic
thick reef
but would have to pray to gods
nimble jasper
ring their dark
nimble jasper
ring tranq immune
kill rdruid in opener
go next
every rdruid that plays
with a hunter or lock dies like that
nimble jasper
and turtle rez
nimble jasper
yeah it stops the cast
thick reef
rofl thats actully helpful
nimble jasper
prob cuz it targets the ground
thick reef
yea
thick reef
cant u do something in some maps
were u
ring them in the room and it traps them far from their dps
nimble jasper
both turtle and tranq immune are buggy as shit
yeah you can trap people in mugambala room
or ruins
thick reef
bro
lucid walrus
it gets annoying in black rook too
lucid walrus
you can take the other door but it’s a waste of time
nimble jasper
i played
gorecki chun queueing double ww 2s
once
basically have to kill gore
chun doesnt die as ww
thick reef
it gets annoying in black rook too
ya was use blackrock as another example
thick reef
chun doesnt die as ww
yea i think iv seen chun pre karma alot of stuff
nimble jasper
blackrook is so cringe
as stealthers into like boomy dh
sight starfall
special mention to dks
who abom hook point starting
thick reef
had a game
vs the weirdest dk on hook point
bro was running the zombie build he chained me and just ran arund whiel the zombies damaged me
was sooo o weird
nimble jasper
think so?
thick reef
i thought it could i heard something about it
thick reef
bladeflurry killing hunter
when i make the mistake of stacking with outlaw blade furry would solo me as well rofl
even while they were hitting my healer
nimble jasper
yeah
i like how when they buffed flurry in pve
they had to mention not to pvp buff it too
left storm
hey guys is unhinged better for arms or enduring blow?
nimble jasper
enduring
sharp meteor
I could see a case for unhinged if you're playing with something like a fdk.
Really, though, Enduring is your bread and butter.
sharp meteor
Yeah, because they're cleave not aoe. Similar thing with sweep.
Spear of Bastion also applies its full dot to the pets.
lean burrow
sharp meteor
So kyrian warr can just randomly murder pets, especially in turbo because chain harvest gets full value
lean burrow
Ty
sharp meteor
had so many games where we'd randomly 1-bang a pet before they could exhil
elder wigeon
fury war conduits are pretty shit in pvp
sharp meteor
Yeah, it's just hack and slash then the necro banner ones
str on heal, execute bloodthirst and spear all seem equally eh
sharp meteor
imo kyrian is much better
sharp meteor
bloodthirst isn't even affected by it is it?
ya psure it is
whomped somebody for like 24k
elder wigeon
Damn
sharp meteor
idk it's like spear for bigger initial burst on goes, str on heal for throughput, bt conduit for slightly more finishing power ig
elder wigeon
yeah I suppose
sharp meteor
i prefer spear for turb as we're usually blowing somebody up in a spear
sharp meteor
like in some scenarios i could see others being preferable but right now stuff is still super volatile so yeah boom big spear
sharp meteor
in a perfect scenario you rampage reck rampage spear rampage
yep
elder wigeon
cause you get a full rage bar off spear in reck with conduit
sharp meteor
sucks to have to throw spear when not enraged but sometimes that's how it be
elder wigeon
yup
sharp meteor
if you can do it during reck and avataar that's like perfect
elder wigeon
enrage makes spear do so much more dmg
sharp meteor
haste and dmg buff hnng
elder wigeon
I've considered running anger management to always have reck and enrage for spear
and to have better uptime on battle trance
sharp meteor
that did cross my mind but im still kind of sketchy with uh uptime
so crushing blow is nice
elder wigeon
yea
sharp meteor
if things get tightened up i could see anger management being super good
elder wigeon
RA just feels a bit clunky as kyrian
sharp meteor
felt so perfect for necro
kyrian doesn't really have anything behind it
if they're pinned then raging blows would be just fine
thick reef
imo kyrian is much better
kyrian def bettder for turbo
more dam tbh with spear
more scary goes + mast isnt crazy for enhanz
so
sharp meteor
yeah necro not much synergy although i did like the mastery on healer
mastery is good for enh
thick reef
oh is it
sharp meteor
speed also nice
sharp meteor
it felt great last season into
thick reef
mast isnt huge
sharp meteor
shadow priests
thick reef
it is nice it does feel more bursty
sharp meteor
was necro on alt and healer played mw so we'd eat every spriest team
thick reef
nerco turbo
sharp meteor
so hard
thick reef
ya
sharp meteor
spear better into everything else
sharp meteor
def better now
sharp meteor
maybe even in general
sharp meteor
like for almost everything
thick reef
as war
sharp meteor
ya big hits
thick reef
yea
sharp meteor
ook ook
simple rock
necro enh plays hot hands build
doesn't take ele blast
you can hit 30-40k as venthyr if the stars align
thick reef
ah
near delta
Been trying barbarian to stop lock gates recently, and it seems not bad?
simple rock
Been trying barbarian to stop lock gates recently, and it seems not bad?
maybe in 2s but in 3s they will have to wall your first go anyway and they just make a gate then
nimble jasper
holy
shit
what the fuck is with lfg healers and trying to do too much
just heal for fucks sake not with your awful timed cc
simple rock
armor is nerfed at the start of every season
near delta
what the fuck is with lfg healers and trying to do too much
Nearly lost a 3v2 today
Killed one of the other dps
I'm like 30% but we did it
And the rdruid tranqs
hahaha
Dude nearly killed me through it but we managed
elder wigeon
armor is nerfed at the start of every season
idk why they can't template/cap it and not make it feel like ur fuckin made out of paper until there's gear
left storm
lol
It is their resonating arrow or something that does that amount of damage. If you are cc'd rip..
Faced two mms yesterday and both of them positioned themselves 180 degree opposite to where i was standing... The cc'd me and my healer and opened with that 100% crit shot.. The only way to survive was to leap in the perpendicular direction with lightening fast reaction... I died in a flash lol
wheat crane
Why isnt this working
/cast [@party1] intervene
Like the simplest macro and is just not working in 2s
wheat crane
Gonna laugh my ass off it that works later
sage raptor
It's case sensitive
left storm
Alright I somehow managed to destroy mms today. Key is to charge them and immediately disarm.
but one got me as i faced a very weird comp..Blood dk and mm.. Soon as i closed in on mm, the dk would pull me back and that basically resulted me going nowhere in the fight.
spice hornet
Meme comp need to rely on your partners and ignore/cc bad blood dk
green sleet
but one got me as i faced a very weird comp..Blood dk and mm.. Soon as i closed ...
Hunters don't seem that bad for me now I usually run double charge with the root dmg talent and send it
Surv with diamond trap running down my healer can be rough
sage socket
Anyone try any low rating 2s or rateds as prot? Is there any way at all to make it kind of work?
lean burrow
Diamond?
nimble jasper
tanks dont belong in pvp
sage raptor
Anyone try any low rating 2s or rateds as prot? Is there any way at all to make ...
Yes
Tanks don't make up enough of the ladder to complain about it.
And people who do just look for things to cry about
sharp meteor
tanks dont belong in pvp
ok outlaw player
sage socket
Tanks don't make up enough of the ladder to complain about it.
Thanks, apparently that mich guy is quite upset by this idea. I asked about BrM in monk pvp and I'm guessing he's the same snotty guy that had something to say in there as well.
sage socket
#roleism was it?
nimble jasper
but ok
prot paladin as a healer is a neat idea
but then theres people who queue tank+healer
where you kind of just exist to be annoying
sharp meteor
disc/prot actually hits so hard it's unreal
sage socket
I dont ever run with a healer, I'm always with a dps. Just like to try new things for fun and wondered if a prot warrior and dps like sin rogue could do anything.
sharp meteor
prot warr feels awful in pvp rn
sharp meteor
all three rogue specs are s or s+ tier
nimble jasper
sub is by far the best for double dps tho
way more control
and damage than you should have
sharp meteor
oh yeah for sure assa in double dps kind of sus
nimble jasper
assa just sucks compared to the other two
saw kalv playing outlaw enh but
enh is at least
80% a healer
as is
sage socket
Exper for rateds of course, we have a couple heals in there. Sin rogue was just an example. I run 2s with different guildies. We're not hardcore. I've never gone past 1600 in rated or 2s...
I just play for fun
sage socket
I'm an RPer from Emerald Dream. Play with whoever is down.
Long Live Clan Battlehammer!
nimble jasper
yeah warrior in general for 2s is bad without a healer
except fury hybrid
can be ok
sage socket
except fury hybrid
Alright, thanks.
nimble jasper
just a poorly suited class for it by design
no real reset potential or self healing
which you need as double dps
sage socket
I just like to kill horde, but its hard to be a shield dwarf with no shield.
nimble jasper
yeah dunno
sage raptor
I just like to kill horde, but its hard to be a shield dwarf with no shield.
As an undead main, I second this. The only good orc is a dead orc.
sage raptor
And ele just has % chance to block right?
nimble jasper
mostly just for armor
sage raptor
Canonically orcs stink more
nimble jasper
well im playing nelf rn
sage socket
Nelf ears make excellent necklaces!
sage socket
Can ye blame me? I'm in an all dwarf guild. We allow our dark iron brethern with us.
sage socket
Lol
sand shadow
I swear, so many priests have been so hard-carried by Holy being absolutely bonkers for so long
it's actually hilarious watching them try to make disc work
nimble jasper
it's actually hilarious watching them try to make disc work
its been pure comedy this past week
the number of holy refugees
sand shadow
i've seen some truly weird shit man
sand shadow
outlaw is the same thing, really
sand shadow
there are so many outlaw rogues carried by the spec being this crazy strong
including me, btw, on my alt
I am just not good at it truth be told
and I am winning people
nimble jasper
few games i’ve played on it this season
sand shadow
that i should never win
sand shadow
I mean, the majority of RMs on EU at least are pretty cookie cutter, meaning you can finesse them
the ones that are actually good, it's pure misery
nimble jasper
yeah i mean its just
the fact i have to pre so hard
vs career rival players
is insane
sand shadow
on my outlaw earleir today, I met a sub/priest. I know a go is going because its telegraphed for lobotomized people to tell. I pre-BM, pre-feint (talented), pre-vial and have S&D rolling and am at full hp
nimble jasper
then i get some idiot mage trying to frost nova sheep me while being in kick range
sand shadow
guy dances me, I eat one mindgames, 1 resonator and die from 100 to 0
whilst holding my trinket BECAUSE I QUAD PRE-D THE GO
this expansion is just the absolute worst
idgaf about BFA damp, SL is just fundamentally broken
nimble jasper
yeah idk lfg is also funny when i tell an lfg guy to get my fear before the obvious kidney mg go on him
i sit a full fear
“why no peel”
sand shadow
I have that issue, but not w/ fear, but rather deathcoil
i dont get why
nobody wants to fucking dispel that
sand shadow
when its a non-CDRable, 45s cd control that is dispelable
and that dispel is always huge as a melee player
nimble jasper
i had a disc tell me
doesnt dispel a full sheep to save mana
we lose cuz of it
🤡
its rogue mage mana is never a concern in winning/losing
sand shadow
frankly, my issue this expansion with healers isn't really them playing badly
sand shadow
not everyone is great at the game, some are returning players etc, do not understand all the spells and interactions and the hard need to insta trade
sand shadow
problem is, it feels like the remaining few people that still suffer through healing in SL are just mentally unbalanced and psychologically unstable
sand shadow
if you say anything at all, even completely chill and politely, and they construe it as you "flaming them", they just fucking flip the fuck out
sharp meteor
I got a warning for asking people to use defensives in shuffle.
nimble jasper
but i’ve also seen some priests who miss fundamental things
sharp meteor
"please wall" I think it what I said.
sand shadow
i had a game earlier w/ a disc vs feral/priest, I get feared in the opener, he doesn't dispel me, the next 1.5s he gets raked stunned into frenzy + berserk + priest schism + boon
nimble jasper
swear thats the basics
sand shadow
I legit tell the guy PS now
nimble jasper
of the comp
sand shadow
death log: last defensive used (PS) @ 13%
nimble jasper
dome insta if not in cc
sand shadow
ofc it feels useless when you press it
nimble jasper
i’ve also made the bad call with lfg
sand shadow
at 13% fucking percent
sand shadow
my other issue w/ that guy was
nimble jasper
like generally im gonna assume
sand shadow
outright refusal to ever press barrier
nimble jasper
my disc will instant dome
sand shadow
legit does not press the button
nimble jasper
if hes in a position to do so
sharp meteor
Local priests attempting to function with multiple charges of lay on hands
sand shadow
meanwhile, when a disc pops that shit on my CDs, I feel like i am robbed
nimble jasper
you know my favorite
is rdruid players
who rake stun the guy
im gonna kill
and now i cant go cuz stun dr
sharp meteor
Hitting into a barrier on somebody that's 95% feels bad
sharp meteor
People say scripted trading is easy or w/e but 99% of people can't do it well
nimble jasper
disc is a momentum based spec
sand shadow
I swear, disc is absolutely batshit insane
nimble jasper
and f you fall behind
sand shadow
BUT... you need to know what you're doing
nimble jasper
you lose
sharp meteor
Yeah, gotta stay ahead.
sharp meteor
Trade insta or you toast. No recovering.
nimble jasper
i swear idk
sand shadow
and then spam cry that you're getting CCd/interrupted on your heals
nimble jasper
am i fried thinking when queueing rogue priest that fearing the person that is in a sap
sand shadow
and you do not understand even after being explained why that happens
nimble jasper
when rogue has other guy stuned
sand shadow
that you need to trade pre-emptively and early
nimble jasper
is common sense?
sand shadow
idk what to do
nimble jasper
dunno
i feel rogue priest 2s has always played like that
kidney one guy
fear other
every go
and in the opener with sap
sand shadow
We meet Fury warriors in 2s w/ that disc whilst I am playing my outlaw. Fury insta pops, guy refuses to trade anything. Okay, no issue, Blind -> KS -> Disarm -> Gouge the warrior on his CDs
nimble jasper
the guy kind of has to take the fear
sand shadow
the warr is malding
nimble jasper
yeah thats legit
sand shadow
and then you absolutely, point-blank refuse to take suggestions, POLITE SUGGESTIONS
nimble jasper
the only time i’ve lost to fury on my outlaw last ssn
when the lfg healer decides to somehow die
sand shadow
idk how to help such people
nimble jasper
to a fury war with 0 cds
sand shadow
that literally scream on the mike
nimble jasper
i tell this guy to just instant fly if im not in a spot
to cc war
on his banner
idk i had it happen so many times last season when bored
cc the war’s entire reck banner
lfg heals still dies
sand shadow
look, I don't begrudge people not being good at the game, esp if its lfg people
he prolly isn't even fully aware what is happening CD wise
what I can't stand is people that are both really just not good at the game, whilst at the same time refusing any polite suggestion (not passive-aggressive suggestions, mind you)
and any thought of trying something different and new
like, I tried to tell this pepega to eat the control lava dispel protection on primordial
vs eles
and generally dispel shock more, since he's not being touched if sitting @ pillar anyway
sand shadow
we end up losing, and his first comment is "yeah dispeling is useless we lost cuz I dispelled and CC'd myself"
wanna know how many shock dispels he did that game?
1
literally 1
how do I deal with people like that??
sand shadow
another game, we meet rsham and fury. We end up losing in record time because he's refusing to trade at high HP on CDs. Game ends "yeah this is impossible, I am getting spam purged and kicked"
details: 4 purges
1 kick
vs disc, by dbl kickers, one of which the fastest CD in game and ranged
nimble jasper
yeah people for some reason
sand shadow
it's like I am getting gaslighted or some shit
sand shadow
and am playing both 2v2 AND 1v1 vs that healer on my team for some reason
just say you fucked up
or you played badly
nimble jasper
people dont wanna admit that
sand shadow
or discuss with me, your partner, that's on your side, what we could do better to improve (I am on an alt after all)
nimble jasper
its a surprisingly rare thing
sand shadow
instead of just firmly pressing head into fucking sand
again, I can't stress enough that when playing on my alts, when I offer suggestions, it's not done forcefully, passive aggressively or rudely whatsoever
I am on an alt. I am myself not playing well and am not even sure what the best course is
but some game knowledge is 100% transferable; such as not waiting to drop to 13% hp and then press PS
and then cry about it being "useless"
or playing masochism into fury warriors instead of BODY AND SOUL LOL
YOU AINT GOING ANYWHERE BUDDY
THAT WARRIOR IS ON YOUR ASS 24/7 UNLESS CC'd
and then, when details shows you have 18% uptime on maso in a 4min game, not just pretend it's bad
nimble jasper
I've just noticed
lfg healers get progressively worse and worse
with each SL season
and bigger unfounded egos
sand shadow
i swear, i am just flabbergasted by that shit 😄
sharp meteor
Why would a good healer use LFG unless it's the Mies
sharp meteor
- Roll the dice or 2) Play with people you know are good and/or fun
robust hearth
wat is the haste cap for fury?
nimble jasper
idk i just expect people
sharp meteor
Idk u want like 25-35% haste though
nimble jasper
to do the bare minimum
sharp meteor
probs raround 30%
nimble jasper
and they still fuck that up
even when i tell them what to do
then they go on some gaslight adventure
sand shadow
thats simply them being inexperienced or not completely understanding the why & when of it usually
or feeling overwhelmed
nimble jasper
yeah i swear
sand shadow
I don't mind people being bad
sand shadow
I mind them having egos and literally going on psycho rants after a loss
at high mmr on my warrior as fury
the 2nd they see reck/banner
its INSTA barrier
i n s t a n t l y
nimble jasper
yeah
nimble jasper
then theres the players
sand shadow
they insta grip him inside the barrier
sage raptor
outlaw is the same thing, really
I love how I can tell who a reroller is and who isn't almost instantly
When I play my rogue into a mirror
sage raptor
I haven't lost to an outlaw in a very long time.
sage raptor
They're just so bad.
sage raptor
Yeah for sure
nimble jasper
had a guy instant trinket disarm while his healer was in china
then i 100-0 him with flag resonator
sage raptor
Oof
robust hearth
do i use the PvE wep, or nah?
sand shadow
i'd use it for sure
can shift some extra versa elsewhere if you're terribly under 30%
elder wigeon
lmao
nimble jasper
so many of them you know they only get their rating
playing with hunters
or w/e is fotm
elder wigeon
i had a rdruid constantly putting enemy rdruid on stun and spear DR and was bitching at me for never swapping to the druid while also cloning the enemy hunter on my cds
legit flamed me super hard said I was shit
sand shadow
n00b
near delta
i had a rdruid constantly putting enemy rdruid on stun and spear DR and was bitc...
BRUH
nimble jasper
i've had hpriests
near delta
Yup
nimble jasper
play stun
w/ a rogue
which is the dumbest shit i've seen
yeah lets play stun with a class that has way too many stuns
and also stun when no damage is happening
sand shadow
idk how people manage to sound so confident and condescending at the same time whilst being unable to even track DRs or your partner's CDs
kind of amazing at this point with addons doing everything for ya
nimble jasper
do you know whats my favorite
the classic tauren rdruid player
who dr warstomps with less than 5 secs on stun dr
dies
ask why no peel
sand shadow
I was criticized for not KSing one game whilst the target was 15s remaining DR from MY previous KS, and my own KS was still on CD 🤷♂️
elder wigeon
like the general rule for rdruid war is ursol off the spear lmao or ursol another target that you don't wanna spear
nimble jasper
@elder wigeon sometimes i feel im expecting too much
thinking lfg rdruid are gonna clone enemy dps
on their pop
elder wigeon
you just gotta make due with what you're given
sand shadow
like... when you hear sth like that, it means so many things at once: 1/ you're unaware of DRs 2/ you're unaware of partner CDs 3/ your awareness is so poor that you legit forgot that the target was KSd like 10s ago 😄
nimble jasper
or the real funny shit
elder wigeon
I'm 2200 on 3 warriors in 2's with pure LFG
nimble jasper
when the enemy rdruid
clones me
when his war spears me
uhh thanks?
for the free protecc
raw summit
I'm 2200 on 3 warriors in 2's with pure LFG
mental illness
elder wigeon
oh yeah I'm fucked in the head from 2's for sure
nimble jasper
the best part about the onesided outlaw mirror @sage raptor
classic 2.4 in 2s outlaw
sub 2k in 3s exp
elder wigeon
just doing so much 2's because none of my friends are qing with me
sage raptor
Oh god yeah lol
near delta
just doing so much 2's because none of my friends are qing with me
Yeah I don't really have any pvp friends and 2s are just easy to queue on lfg
nimble jasper
it becomes painfully obvious
near delta
Better than waiting in lfg for an hour
elder wigeon
yep
nimble jasper
the guy cant win vs another rogue to save his life
sage raptor
Random disarms and gouges are always a hoot
nimble jasper
well that one time
his random disarm worked out
cuz i couldnt kidney the 2nd attempt at mg
wheat crane
Had a priest running reg chastise the other day while i was on my aff lock
"Stop chastising off my darksoul dots."
"Just kill him np." "How?" "With dots trash lock."
near delta
I'll never forget playing with this rdruid in s3 at 2k who never used clone at all
And I asked him and he was like I don't do that
wheat crane
Stuff that just takes you by such surprise that you don't even have a response
near delta
Use cc? No
wheat crane
Sir this is a wendys we dont do that here.
humble frost
whats the highest ilvl conduits can get to
sharp meteor
278, and it's only 10k flux for all of them now.
humble frost
awesome ty
sharp meteor
Apparently a bunch of people just got euthanized for rmt/wintrading.
wheat crane
I need so much flux
There should be some catchup turn in for flux with any of the old currencies like research n stygia
clever fern
kyrian > necro again?
sharp meteor
Necro can be fine/good with some stuff but in general Spear feels really great.
reck with enrage up then spear is a lot of damage especially if you procced avatar with signet
spice hornet
y my ret partner keep getting 1 month ban for RMT then it gets overtuned the next day
just happened like 2 hours ago 3rd time in the last like 3 months
lucid walrus
big banwave out rn yeah
sharp meteor
Why is your ret so sketchy mang
spice hornet
not sure what he did originally but the last 2 times he's only been qing with me and we play other games
so not sure
near delta
Apparently a bunch of people just got euthanized for rmt/wintrading.
Any notables
spice hornet
oh did not see there was an earlier message
about it
hope those rbg boosters got it
or any russian prot/ww or prot/sub players
sharp meteor
Any notables
like dozens of people from dno to maldiva or flark idk need to see how much of it sticks
lucid walrus
flark, laros, maldiva, lontar and a couple more ya
sharp meteor
or if blizz rly did go scorched earth and euthanize anybody who plays with somebody who wintraded
near delta
flark, laros, maldiva, lontar and a couple more ya
Damg
Remember like Hots and Seanney got hit last sesson
sharp meteor
ya they wintraded when they would've gotten it if they ahdn't
i think hots got fried again but seaney might not have
we'll see hmm
spice hornet
lolol
doesnt this always happen tho
they do a banwave and unban a bunch of people falsely banned
usually a bunch of high rated /popular folk
near delta
they do a banwave and unban a bunch of people falsely banned
It seems like they mostly use it to deny people r1
sharp meteor
Sometimes there's a hiccup in their system.
near delta
Oop Lontar suspended for 6 months
sharp meteor
I know taht for a few months my password got reset every few days.
spice hornet
their system suc ball
sharp meteor
A couple GMs said they hadn't seen it happen before and eventually it got escalated to a guy who got me to a week later and said that he thinks he fixed it, and he did.
🥳
near delta
So probably banned for a year from AWC like Zeepeye
sharp meteor
They can't even ban people from esports because the scene is so small.
elder wigeon
the prize pools are so disgustingly small and pvp is so neglected
sharp meteor
I mean why work on esports and make peanuts when you could rmt all day and make much more
elder wigeon
pmuch
sharp meteor
it's a sad state to see things in
elder wigeon
it's hard to want to push past 2400 because it's a barren wasteland for 1000cr
then you're r1
same problem
zero incentive
sharp meteor
ya some nights we'd legit just queue into like
one of the multi r1 teams on their 4th set of chars
like 3 times in a row cos nobody else queued
or the more common thing was like 2-3 teams queuing
and if it's awful matchups then no point playing that night
dense gyro
Is venthyr arms with exploiter still good in 2s?
sharp meteor
venth seems like trolling when armor is as weak as it is
at least until tuesday
even then probs just play kyrian
lucid walrus
if not for soulbinds and conduits i’d argue venth is worse than no cov
dense gyro
alright ill stick with kyrian then and save the gold for a leggo ty for answering 😄
stuck karma
Having a Hard time vs ele+healer in 2s,how am i suppose to play it?
lean burrow
tell your healer to dispel flame shock on cd, sit on ele and kick lava burst
track lightning lasso cd and try to predict with bladestorm
idk if it's reflectable
wheat crane
Played 1 ele rdruid team that beat me in dmg on affi and he maybe hard casted 2 lava bursts the entire game
Was just pillar > peek a lava proc > pillar
So i dk
narrow barn
Doin 2s fury resto shaman, u guys think necrolord or kyrian best way to go
sharp meteor
Kyrian unless you're smurfing and 1-banging people in opener.
undone pumice
dragonflighr when
wheat crane
Dec31st if not delayed
shut plover
Having a Hard time vs ele+healer in 2s,how am i suppose to play it?
Especially diseplling the primordial wave is good cuz thats the one they followup with echoing shock to do their burst, reflecting the ability they echoing shock (so the lavaburst immediatly after it) is rly good
@stuck karma but that is ofc the healers job to dispell
wheat crane
Just got called a mongoloid by a 1600 warrior, while on my warrior, during a solo shuffle for not w keying at his target choice of mistweaver the entire round
No swapping, no peeling, just w at mw
The irony is fantastic
lucid walrus
Just got called a mongoloid by a 1600 warrior, while on my warrior, during a sol...
he just knows something you don’t bro
lean burrow
Especially diseplling the primordial wave is good cuz thats the one they followu...
how would you track getting hit by primordial wave + echoing shock?
just omnibar?
looking at the debuffs?
weakauras?
idk how to easily see stuff like that, I got semi-satisfying weakauras for vendetta, sepsis, karma
even then it's annoying to not see stuff like ursol's vortex
warped warren
shut plover
how would you track getting hit by primordial wave + echoing shock?
I put echoing shock on my bigdebuffs with a slightly higher prio
@lean burrow i just consider it a pseudo cooldown
wheat crane
Fury is better, but arms is fine if you want to play it
full quiver
I like arms better in 2v2
wheat crane
Youre also a weeb
cedar frost
Thanks and what about the 4 pieces bonus set for arms ? Is it worth ?
Also scooberz, why do you like arms more for 2s ?
hasty crane
So a lot of the PVP folks got banned again I guess? Why is RMT so common in PVP
wheat crane
Because people like money
thick reef
^^
fury ur hitting a target keeping up 8 stack thats all it rly feels
n u cant run away r ly
rly*
fickle forge
So a lot of the PVP folks got banned again I guess? Why is RMT so common in PVP
It's really fat cash
nimble jasper
no its because competing in wow makes less than a min wage job
fickle forge
Still no reason to RMT
Professional WoW arena player isn't a thing unless you RMT
Or stream a gigaton
nimble jasper
pretty sure the russians on eu do it the most
you have to also consider you get paid in euros
and some of these boosters live in countries with shit currencies
fickle forge
Just no excuse to RMT ever really
fickle forge
Yeah but it's against ToS and banable fam
full quiver
I don't get why they do it on their main account??
fickle forge
You can't excuse it
fickle forge
Some got hardware banned
hasty crane
I know someone that their whole device got banned not just ip
nimble jasper
idk asbur isnt maldiva
hasty crane
So no joke it wouldn't let them play on that computer
full quiver
Seems weird they'd ban different people different ways
nimble jasper
repeat offenders
nimble jasper
probably because pvp rates are more
and you have no other use for gold if you just q arena
fickle forge
I'm curious tho why you hear about it the most with PVP
Cause it ruins the ladder by taking people's rating
Any time someone buys a glad boost, you essentially take 50 x 12 rating away from the ladder
With some rough edges
full quiver
Lol
full quiver
😂
thick reef
scoob
if u play arms in 2s do u think kyrian is better then nerco?
it would b right?
full quiver
I like kyrian better but if you're new banner is easier to play
Since you can't wiff banner as easily as you can spear lol
wheat jay
@full quiver do you have any weakauras or addons to help track hamstring?
i asked some guy some time ago and he said you're the expert on the matter
sharp meteor
if u play arms in 2s do u think kyrian is better then nerco?
ya
conq feels troll in 2s
too easily peeled
thick reef
Since you can't wiff banner as easily as you can spear lol
true lol
thick reef
too easily peeled
ya at least against some classes spear lets u have uptime
sage raptor
Fury is boring af retard spec
thick reef
true