lots of cheese
#pvp
elder wigeon
craggy socket
My whole point was warrior works in a ton of comps and mage doesn’t at the moment
sharp meteor
it is, even without cheese
no mages legit just arne't good enough to play without a rogue
near delta
Did they do another secret armor nerf
sharp meteor
like the vast majority just don't function
near delta
Feels like stuff is hitting hard af
craggy socket
Lmao you’re actually trolling
craggy socket
Fury brain got you all fucked yo
near delta
I played WMP literally once like s3
And the mage was the most toxic player I've ever seen
sharp meteor
Fury brain got you all fucked yo
is this the 1800 rmp cope
craggy socket
Nah just facts you sound stupid
near delta
Dude apparently was 3k xp or whatever. And was hella critical even tho we won like 9 games straight
sharp meteor
throw me down a flight of stairs if i ever become a 2k rmp player that says the comp is bad
near delta
Ah s2 not s3
sharp meteor
yeah s2 super jacked
elder wigeon
most mages don't even know how to play without a rogue doing everything for them too
part of the problem
graceful quarry
not wrong
if you only ever play one comp
youre not gonna know
what to do in other comps
like someone who plays ret suddenly having to play something thats not ret/warr
elder wigeon
mage design is just so bad lol
spice hornet
Feels like stuff is hitting hard af
Ya idk mm feels like it’s hitting way harder this season
craggy socket
throw me down a flight of stairs if i ever become a 2k rmp player that says the ...
Nobody ever said it was bad. You really can’t read can you!
sharp meteor
shut
craggy socket
Nah
sharp meteor
Ya idk mm feels like it’s hitting way harder this season
Might be the armor nerf they do for keys?
graceful quarry
m+ lul
spice hornet
aaaaaa
elder wigeon
yeah I have like 27% with two main pieces of 311 eternal gear lol
sharp meteor
At one point my honor gear alt had more armor than my bis main
This is second week ya
sharp meteor
we've gotten one box
elder wigeon
9 days*
graceful quarry
might need some weeks for stuff to settle in i guess
with big boi gear might be different
graceful quarry
don't forget the bruin special of telling people to commit trafficplay
spice hornet
Miss thst guy
elder wigeon
they really should just fix rogue's stuns vs damage and give mage deep back
sage raptor
That was me. And I stand by it.
And I wasn't necessarily defending outlaw
Just defending people who played outlaw even when it was bad.
Ie me.
Also outlaw was this strong in season 2 but had no representation so it flew under the radar.
sage raptor
Except warriors.
sage raptor
Arms*
sage raptor
That wasn't the consensus in S1 and S2
wheat jay
It was for me
I care not about the ramblings of the dumb
And those crying that they deserve something
They deserve nerf hammer at best
sage raptor
Nah
wheat jay
Yah
sage raptor
If that were to happen, arms would never be good again.
elder wigeon
lets be honest here, nobody would even be playing arms if turbo and ret warrior weren't so good
even the copers like laros
sage raptor
If someone plays a shitty spec for years and then it magically gets good one season, they don't "deserve" to get shit on like fotm rerollers do. Which is what I mean when I say deserve.
No one really "deserves" anything.
elder wigeon
ideally tuning and design isn't so bad that we're going around saying this shit
sage raptor
Ideally you're right
elder wigeon
sage raptor
But sadly tis not the case at times.
elder wigeon
obligatory post
sage raptor
Lmao
elder wigeon
seriously though, warrior isn't very fun right now
thick reef
its rly not lul
elder wigeon
I can't imagine a lot of people are having fun right now on their mains
play the fotm comp or suffer greatly
sage raptor
If your an arms main imo. Being forced to play a spec you don't like for the sake of more comps and such feels good for no one. Personally I like Fury so it's whatever.
elder wigeon
I'm tired of ret war and turbo I wanna play with my wizard friends
elder wigeon
it's annoying fighting arms as fury
they can offensively parry your enrage regen
specifically in 2s
but fury v fury in 2s is just so boring and class envy
near delta
I honestly wanna just /afk when I see a fury 2s mirror
full quiver
Usually free win for me lol
elder wigeon
the most unfun matchup has to be surv rdruid where they play to kill your healer and play diamond ice for you
so cringe
spam stun trap root and clone you while they just run your healer down
had some cringe hunter spam emote me
elder wigeon
there's not a whole lot you can do, if you reflect the trap you're gonna get spam rooted and cloned
full quiver
But also only faced like 1 war over 2300
elder wigeon
cuz there aren't any
elder wigeon
none of them care about 2's because it's such a bad experience
full quiver
I can't play melee in 2s after playing survival
elder wigeon
that's fair
elder wigeon
i was insta 1800 in 2's on my outlaw that's 270 ilvl not knowing what any of my buttons do
spice hornet
twin sinew
We're taking the vers mast 2h this week right?
full quiver
i was insta 1800 in 2's on my outlaw that's 270 ilvl not knowing what any of my ...
Yeah I got 1800 at 233 pvp ilvl last season on survival lol
I'm pretty good at it in 2s now
elder wigeon
I can win against any hunter NA in 2's except croqp (chun) and ssds
MM is the hardest spec to fight imo
survival is the easiest in my experience
full quiver
Lol
elder wigeon
but nearly impossible if it's survival and they go my healer
if they try to kill me they lose
full quiver
I think I could take you in a rematch with my rdruid
elder wigeon
if I have an rdruid and you don't try to kill my healer I'd put the odds 70% on me
elder wigeon
not a winning strategy because I'll kill your healer in 3 goes
full quiver
I just trap into stun on fury during banner go
elder wigeon
especially if they're feral aff lmao they die so easy
I don't play banner in 2's
sucks ass
full quiver
Oh you're kyrian lol
Yeah I think spear is way better unless you're playing double dps
elder wigeon
not enough dmg to be worth not being able to kill healer
full quiver
You play volt too I'm assuming then
elder wigeon
yep have to
can't catch a druid without it
if they power shift your charge even with warbringer you can't spear them
so fuckin stupid
thick reef
but fury v fury in 2s is just so boring and class envy
Imo it just depends on howeever gets preasure
elder wigeon
the good druids will cancel form in cat to insta travel form leap
have to chuck the spear same time you charge from max range and hope they don't leap out of it before it lands lmao
a few druids have and I vowed to never try it again
full quiver
I hate when I try and naked trap and they do that
elder wigeon
i hate spammable cc so bad in this expac
near delta
the good druids will cancel form in cat to insta travel form leap
How does that work? I've played against some insanr druids who just never got slowed ever.
elder wigeon
you can cancel form off global to power shift
near delta
You have to be the first form though right
elder wigeon
and they play feline swiftness or whatever it's called to maintain their speed when shifting form
spice hornet
Busted ass conduit
lucid walrus
it'll get dropped to 25% for sure but it should be 0%
sharp meteor
sham moves a bit faster for 3 seconds every minute but druid just gets to nascar around with their 0 cdr conduit
full quiver
They're pretty weak offensively outside of combust
full quiver
So they should have a 75% ms atleast tbh
wheat crane
Very true
full quiver
🤓
wheat crane
Class is underperforming needs these massive buffs
At least its frost only
But then again then youre stuck fighting frost mages all xpac
near delta
They really need to add a resonator talent but just for rogues, mages and priests
near delta
Yeah the kill potential with 0 cds is what makes it absurd
wheat crane
They really need to add a resonator talent but just for rogues, mages and pries...
It needs a buff for them too
So its a garunteed kill
full quiver
Dude the counter spell thing seems super toxic
wheat crane
No matter what
full quiver
Aoe knock up lol
Knock mw up
Sheep them
Lmao
Can you drop grounding in the air?
I don't think you can when lava eruption knocked
near delta
Dude the counter spell thing seems super toxic
Don't tell me they get boomie boop when they counter spell?
full quiver
Don't tell me they get boomie boop when they counter spell?
Pretty sure that's what the talent below the MS says in notes
Unless I misread it
wheat crane
Maybe theyll put ms on my unstable affliction
spice hornet
RMP honestly wouldn't be that bad without trinkets
Yea I hate how every seasonal trinket benefits them the most
fickle forge
Maybe theyll put ms on my unstable affliction
"Dispelling UA now reduces healing done by 50% for 8 seconds"
sage raptor
Does shattering throw work on absorb shields?
sage raptor
Oh okay thanks. I actually never read the tooltip tbh.
fickle forge
sage raptor
I'm not ready for evokers on my dk.
spice hornet
Outlaw rogue mains smh
sage raptor
If it makes you feel better, I never used that stupid vanish leggo ❤️
full quiver
Calibri the forsaken is leveling an outlaw riht now
elder wigeon
ideally on cloak or wrist, lowest stat piece
humble frost
ideally on cloak or wrist, lowest stat piece
why place it on the lowest stat piece?
humble frost
ah okay understood. 311 being 2100+? Sorry for all the questions just returning
lucid walrus
yeah 311's new duelist ilvl
humble frost
In theory id have time to grind the rep and replace that piece if i were to climb
okay awesome
appreciate it
sand shadow
this is fine
playing dbl time + warbringer on hook point and had about 98% uptime, ele did 3.2M dmg, I did 1.9M
mild thunder
question - when you guys play kyrian do you rotate reck/bladestorm for every spear?
obsidian loom
playing dbl time + warbringer on hook point and had about 98% uptime, ele did 3....
Yeah but did you cast curse on his rng to counteract his blessing of digits
elder wigeon
@sand shadow i love no cds and ele just doing this for fun
I wish I hit that hard
60k dmg in .7 seconds
sand shadow
the nerds both start spamhealing and thornsing and moving the elemental if I try to touch it too 🙂
didnt know it was controllable, actually
wheat crane
"Dispelling UA now reduces healing done by 50% for 8 seconds"
Is that real? I was just fucking around lol
Affis strong enough
elder wigeon
didnt know it was controllable, actually
it is if they play a talent
sand shadow
whatever it is, it's legit unwinnable, unless they're just considerably worse than me
at least it felt that way
both are just jumping around doing unhealable damage
I can't pierce through their def no matter what I attempt
Swapping on hots, getting perfect bashes on a clean druid w/ banner and reck, clean goes w/ bolt into bash, not even close really
the dudu just bears at 100% and frenzies at 100%, doesn't give a fuck 
fun fact, I told my hpally friend I am no longer playing w/ a pala in 2s and forced him to log his 200-games XP rdudu and we 're doing far, far, far better
legit like 150MMR better
ain't that nice 🙂
lucid walrus
didnt know it was controllable, actually
it is with primal ele
sand shadow
yes, I am sure he is playing it on the same level as his r1 main that he's been playing since vanilla
lucid walrus
the "upside" if you will is that they can't have earth ele out at the same time if they do it
sand shadow
🤷♂️
lucid walrus
doesn't matter when they're in the untouchable triangle though
sand shadow
guy is getting spam hexed and hibernated as a dudu, nuff said about 200 games being sufficient
even the most broken specs take considerably more time to play well
warped warren
yes, I am sure he is playing it on the same level as his r1 main that he's been ...
prob yea
simple rock
if heals doesn't spam dispel flameshock you're in for a bad time
esp on ascendance procs
if it's aff/ele 🙏
sand shadow
thats the thing I wanted him to try
to try and spam dispel, despite control of lava
he can prolly eco selfheal it w/ tiny hots
idk
simple rock
it's only 10k dmg in max gear
20k if it crits but no ele is running crit rn
and the knockup
sand shadow
might be superior to what we tested
simple rock
yeah i've been playing a lot of ele lately
if they spam dispel flameshock you do FAR less dmg
sand shadow
not sure how much of a bother it is
the issue isn't even that we'll take less damage
but rather the near impossibility of scoring a kill
doesnt help that I am essentially forced into running DTime + Warbringer
simple rock
2s vs rdruid ele?
sand shadow
y
simple rock
lol yeah if the ele is good that is tough
simple rock
best bet is playing spear if you see a lot of rdruids and try to win in 2-3 goes
you won't kill an ele with an rdruid that has perma hot uptime
unless it's omega deep dampening
simple rock
yea he shouldn't though
sand shadow
and unlike us, can easily stop drinks
simple rock
if you play bloodrage and double time and your healer dispels on cd
they will have to drink a lot more
sand shadow
it is what I run
these are r1 players, its not so simple
even if the spam dispel Fshock strat has value
it does have a downside
they run static totem, and the dudu spam roots and controls me even out of tree proc
I can storm one in a minute, and BR 1 in 20s
add in roars, hexes (even if insta dispelled still disruptive), lasso, cap, bash and vortex
and its suddenly not quite so simple
all the while guy is jumping around spam casino procing anyone in sight for up to 50k each time
this last part might be made easier if we spam dispel, but then I won't touch
guy is even spam bear charge rooting me
doesn't care, he's full hp and in bear
even w/ full CDs I am not touching his health nearly at all
fun fact: dudus in bear have ~12k more hp than I do when I rally w/ the pvp talent and the condi
🤷♂️
wheat crane
Ursine is kinda a wild conduit at 278
Its basically a free rally everytime you enter bear at this point
wheat crane
Lmfao it is rally now at 278 ilv
I dhould gear up my resto druid
I dont see how they lose in 2s at this point to anything besides rm
Or other rdruids
sage raptor
Because the rdudus in 2s are bad
thick reef
I dont see how they lose in 2s at this point to anything besides rm
Ya agreed
spice hornet
2s hero rdruid sickens me
nimble jasper
rdruid is just the 2s king
if we forget about patches/seasons where another healer is severely overtuned
elder wigeon
outlaw rdruid gives me aids
sage raptor
Miguel from the gay bar gave me aids
left storm
hey guys does die by the swords completely stop paladin's avenging wrath?
lean burrow
fickle forge
hey guys does die by the swords completely stop paladin's avenging wrath?
What does this mean
stuck karma
My die by the sword doesnt stop ppl from yelling mean words towards me
fickle forge
You can't parry ranged attacks
warped warren
only weak warriors cant
spice hornet
outlaw rdruid gives me aids
What about outlaw mw
lyric violet
hey what did you guys buy with your conquest first?
I wasnt sure if weapon was the move still?
elder wigeon
What about outlaw mw
Slightly less aids
raw summit
wheat jay
Id say its more aids
near delta
Double disarm one from 30 yards feels pretty bad lol
sand shadow
because when you're finally hitting a MW, it "feels" like he's dying
dudus just fucking bear and it "feels" futile
wheat jay
because when you're finally hitting a MW, it "feels" like he's dying
Ye it feels like he's dying but he's actually not xD
sharp meteor
Ornamental mana bar, tops themselves in 2 seconds when you don't have a stop
I love 10 minute games vs mw/outlaw
near delta
Ye it feels like he's dying but he's actually not xD
They really needed the cocoon buffs but oof it can be annoying
fickle forge
I love 10 minute games vs mw/outlaw
I'd rather watch grass grow than fight outlaw+MW
Peel you for 10 years and then they still lose at 80% damp
sand shadow
ngl, I'd prefer spam queieing into MW/Outlaw over rdudu/outlaw myself idk
at least monk IS punishable, it's just that these gaps are so tiny it's unlikely
that said, I have finally devised secret tech against outlaws 
not sure how well it works with other healers overall, but w/ a dudu it works pretty well
I only thought of it after some 1800mmr randos did it to me on my outlaw; you basically and quite literally, spam CC them
You bolt them off CD, you fear them off CD, you disarm them off CD, the dudu roars them off cd, bashes them off CD, bear charges them off CD, clones until immune, root until immune, vortex off CD
Try it
they fucking deserve it
their own fucking medicine
do NOT press CC on the healer, ever
only aids the outlaw
try it a few games and see if it doesn't work
full quiver
dudus just fucking bear and it "feels" futile
full quiver
Lol
wheat crane
Think theyre the worst offenders of ilv creep
sand shadow
or the fact that bskin is 45s
sand shadow
because the game is a hot mess balance wise
wheat crane
Ursine and instincts werent neary as busted 2 season ago
fickle forge
Increased hp and armor for 4s
Bruh moment
sand shadow
the incredible disbalance is best observed in 2s
full quiver
Lol
sand shadow
which, of course, is much harder to balance for, for sure
sand shadow
the thing w/ surv/rdudu is that
they can misplay, fail to kite, even during your full CDs
and the hunter will still NOT die, because rdudus do infinity ST healing
sand shadow
I am literally losing to them in like 6+ min games
w/ 2 traps overall
2 traps in a 6m+ game
imagine that
full quiver
Lol
sand shadow
not saying it doesn't take any skill to play that or other comps, ofc
full quiver
My guy is really good at vortexing properly too
Pretty impossible for warrior to do anything
sand shadow
it does, I can vouch for that because I spam lose to warriors on my outlaw for example 
full quiver
I had a hilarious game yesterday as a side note
sand shadow
but they just have such an overwhelming comp superiority
full quiver
Stun MM on go, He trinkets, I trappers net
sand shadow
that even larger mistakes are simply not punishable, or near impossible to
sand shadow
I met a MM+Holy on like 2.2 MMR last night
the weird part was
he was the first MM that I've seen run Venthyr
o_O
full quiver
MM is feels busted
sand shadow
we absolutely smashed them both times
his burst "felt" much lower
I just ran impending and lol'd whilst using the priest for a target dummy
much skill, such woaw
sand shadow
yeah, problem with that is that I am healed by a dudu
he might have 200 games lifetime on that class
but I am still immortal
full quiver
Yeah so no way to win lol
full quiver
Lol
sand shadow
esp running full healing build
near delta
What's the ICD on that?
sand shadow
but yeah, if anyone cares, try what I suggested RE: outlaws in 2s
max aids them, it really worked so well for me
full quiver
Idk if the bearform thing has one?
wheat crane
What's the ICD on that?
Dont think there is one
full quiver
That's a good question lol
near delta
TF
sand shadow
There is no ICD
near delta
I um huh
wheat crane
Its just go into bear and get rally
sand shadow
to re-proc it
full quiver
What is max aids
near delta
So they can just constantly swap back to bear
full quiver
Lol
sand shadow
exactly like his ferrari conduit
near delta
I see them doing that and had no idea why
sand shadow
forgot what its called
near delta
Wtf lol
sand shadow
where they run around at like 180% speed perma
full quiver
Fast af boi
sand shadow
back in S2
I loved watching Flop, the US dudu, run that
- full speed gems/ring & feral affinity
guy was moving around as if perma-mounted, nearly
looked super badass actually
wheat crane
Also fun fact
nimble jasper
whats max aids an outlaw anyway
full quiver
My buddy who is big into gold farming has a full speed druid that runs faster than ground mounted speed
wheat crane
The 200% increase to rejuv/regrowth after a swiftmend pretty sure you can cast it with a ns in bear too
sand shadow
whats max aids an outlaw anyway
Since implementing said tactic (granted, I can only vouch it works splendidly w/ a rdudu), we finish the games with me having sat ~15CCs, whilst outlaw is at 35+
we're literally outaidsing outlaw
sand shadow
nah, an orcie boy
full quiver
Sus
lucid walrus
I miss when warriors could have speed sets
we almost can
sand shadow
chad race
lucid walrus
i’m at 128% with kleia in my normal gear
sand shadow
since vanilla, lets be real
full quiver
Explain strat
full quiver
Oh my bad
full quiver
Had to scroll up lol
sand shadow
it really, really works
near delta
The best success I've had is basically that
sand shadow
first thing I have come up w/ that actually works into outlaw 2s
near delta
Just don't let him play the game
sand shadow
ofc, if its rdudu/outlaw, you still prolly lose vs 'okay' players
full quiver
Kinda what I do on survival
nimble jasper
most outlaws are just weird
sand shadow
but if it's priest/rsham/mw, it works very well
nimble jasper
and just play max damp
full quiver
And blow cds when they think they're about to kill lol
near delta
Played some venthyr finally last night after just doing it in pve Jesus christ
lucid walrus
try it a few games and see if it doesn't work
what in fresh hell does this accomplish if you’re never ccing healer
tilt?
sand shadow
@lucid walrus you're whacking the healer
near delta
When you get a back to back blunderbuss profs people just die
lucid walrus
gotcha
full quiver
Training rdruid as war
sand shadow
you legit run them dry
sand shadow
tried both
full quiver
I like kyrian better
sand shadow
last 2 nights, 1 night I played only Kyr, last night just Necro
the reality has not changed regarding cov choice imo
kyr is really good into SOME stuff, necro into other stuff
if you could know what you'd face, you could make an informed choice
full quiver
Kyrian just feels more versatile
sand shadow
but you don't, so... 🤷♂️
nimble jasper
When you get a back to back blunderbuss profs people just die
yeah if you chain proc blunder in flag its just unreal dam
willow wraith
Necro or kyr arms how do I decide?
sand shadow
Kyrian is incredibly good into other warriors, for example
sand shadow
its really good into bash-the-healer-that-can't-really-escape matchups
into hunters, Kyrian is miserable
they refuse to FD
and you can't force them to reliably
at least I can't
Kyrian is poggers int ostuff where you go healer and his DPS wants to whack you, too
dbl spear on CD w/ CDR from Owl
for example, if you mirror warriors and you're Kyrian and he ain't
you shouldn't lose
and by that I mean, on average, you have a huge advantage
willow wraith
Then why ever go banner?
sand shadow
because you don't JUST meet warriors
and not ALL your matchups are Kyrian-favored
it's a mix
as I said, if you knew your matchups, you could try and min-max, but you don't
willow wraith
I like the consistency of kyr but I play prot war so I love banner playstyle
sand shadow
thats my personal opinion anyway
full quiver
Spear into hunter priest is poopy
sand shadow
based on my personal observations playings 2s these past week or so on EU
sand shadow
Spear into hunter priest is poopy
exactly
sand shadow
yeah but that's not an incredibly favorable trade...
them fading my spear hurts ME much more than it hurts them
sand shadow
I can still kick his fade and he is not doing anything in fade lest he drops the fade
full quiver
Then blow big dam on priest if they aren't flying
sand shadow
and if they are? 🙂
full quiver
Bad news bears
sand shadow
which, mostly, they are
full quiver
Lol
sand shadow
yeah, exactly
but imo, we've finally arrived at a parity between the two covs in 2s as warrior
imo, Spear was far poopier in prev ssns in 2s
Banner was just... better overall
full quiver
I think it was better s2 than banner
sand shadow
there were still matchups where you could get insane value out of Kyr ofc
idk, I was around 2900 2s in s2 as necro
mmr wise, don't remember CR
necro just felt multitudes better
willow wraith
Ok how is the skill capped guide guy hitting 60k MS then
willow wraith
I like getting dark arc while training a lock
sand shadow
That's hella sus
hpala is the greatest 2v2 healer for a warrior if he can actually heal in damp
HoJ, BoP, BoF, all three are enormous
add Rep on top and it's possibly S-tier
so long as hpala can do actual healing, which they cannot
sand shadow
they need to listen to my calls and it works, you can never expect him to know as well as you when it is you require a BoF and especially BoP
so you need voice obv
just like you can't know as well as your healers when popping a defensive is ideal
esp now w/ LoD procs
full quiver
Watching Dno give his war a "charge" with intervene
sand shadow
you might be 20% and he has a proc next global
willow wraith
Playing w pala on comms kinda covers your rm games right?
sand shadow
and you just trade wall, because you're scared
full quiver
Without them being in comms lol
sand shadow
but he has you LoH'd next global
getting healers to give you intervene
is incredibly important
I've taught my minion well
full quiver
Lol
sand shadow
I am kidding ofc, he's not a minion 🙂
its actually not even that hard w/ an hpally, because he's usually in melee or close to it anyway
since he can't heal for shit w/o being next to the target anyway
paper oracle
hpal/war will always have a softspot in my heart
unfortunately they get farmed by hunters
can play reflect leggo to help
otherwise, hpal is pretty good
fickle forge
Thanks for that Blizz I guess
steep inlet
humble frost
Conquest uncapped next week
25% bonus conquest and 40% bonus honor too
fickle forge
https://twitter.com/Wowhead/status/1557754310452133888
Glad they're happy with the arms tree, cause I sure am too
steep inlet
same
near delta
Does anyone know how much honor you need for full gear this season?
sharp meteor
A lot. 😵💫 Upgrading a full set from unranked to Duelist in a week or two is going to be nutty.
near delta
And had to run so many rbgs
I've legit never run RBGs since I was a noob in s1 and wanted to try to get gear lol. Might be time now though.
Is fury a meta rbg spec?
full quiver
No clue man haven't ran it since s2 lol
near delta
lol
full quiver
And only did like 5
near delta
It's like the intersection of the worst people that pve and the worst people that pvp.
sand shadow
no kap, RBG-focused pvpers are... lets say they're a bit odd
sharp meteor
The three pvp achievements I'm missing are from rbgs because Hero isn't a feat for some reason.
craggy socket
RBGs be toxic af
wheat crane
Worst thing they ever did was make mounts and titles added to rbgs
Makes it a toxic cesspool of mediocre pvpers who think theyre good at the game
hasty crane
The thing is tho once you have the titles there's literally no reason to do RBGs
They have never had new rewards season to season
sharp meteor
Literally just do seasonal titles.
Cosmic Hero of the Horde, Tyrannical Hero of the Alliance.
near delta
Okay BM rdruid is till toxic af in 2s lol
nimble jasper
no kap, RBG-focused pvpers are... lets say they're a bit odd
mfw rbg mains try to argue rbgs take more individual skill than arena
🤡
sharp meteor
Meanwhile 1900 peak 3s
nimble jasper
Okay BM rdruid is till toxic af in 2s lol
i only like it on outlaw
cuz its free cr
nimble jasper
on monk its a check if healer can heal to the second bonedust sweep
cuz hunter teams never trade properly for ww burst
like when they trinket petsac opener that he stacked his pet for
only for me to tab over and onetap his pet
spice hornet
Rbg mains worst players world
wheat jay
only for me to tab over and onetap his pet
There is a way to outplay it
Playing with mechanical pet and macroing its skill to sac
50% wall for pet
full quiver
I just put pet on their healer or in Africa then sac my healer into door of shadows every go
If monk tries to go me they just lose
wheat jay
Scoob
You can just move pet away from monk when sweep is off cd
And use kill command only when he's not on you
full quiver
Yeah I move it with like 5-7s left on sweep
Don't want him getting tiger palm buff off it for free too lol
hollow elm
Do you guys find fury to be shit in bgs?
sharp meteor
Nope.
sharp meteor
Yeah, Warr in general has a certain way is has to play bgs.
Honestly best bet unless you're jacked is to just rp that you're a bodyguard for some healer.
elder wigeon
legit both teams just try to 1 shot each other's warriors for some stupid fuckin reason
every temple of kotmogu is the same shit
both team's warriors die in the first 15 seconds
hollow elm
Thats so true.. Its almost making me reroll into something else.
elder wigeon
warriors are ass tier in rbgs and world pvp it's just the way it's been since the dawn of time
elder wigeon
rogue obviously
sharp meteor
rogue is mandatory
hollow elm
Derp fair yeah
sharp meteor
if u wanna be frontline ooga booga i thought it was ret or fdk
elder wigeon
ret pallies are monsters in rbgs tbh
sharp meteor
if u want chill time in rbgs forever then warlock (aff) or mooner
or even better go bear/balance and be the most desirable thing
elder wigeon
mm hunters are always nuts in rbgs
hollow elm
Not really feeling ranged honestly. Maybe ill dust off the old DH and see how much it hurts
indigo barn
Warrior plays as the team fight shot caller who coordinates the cc and sharpens the kill target
However teamfights are so volatile that sharpen is pointless
Just stack 3 locks and a boomy and win every teamfight no problem
thick reef
love how
a outlaw can play however he wants
and auto wins rofl
games so bad
holy fuck
wheat crane
Getting ROCKED at 1750 cr on my honor gear lock with no tier lol
2s is wildly tryhard atm
wheat crane
3k last season ret hit me for a 43k final verdict at like 1725cr
My poor priest buddy was having heart palpitations
"Wings." "Ok i got you, WTF WALL! FUCK!"
nimble jasper
a outlaw can play however he wants
most outlaws i see are real shit
thick reef
yea hits insane
nimble jasper
doesnt show sometimes until you play a mirror
thick reef
its insane
thick reef
yea
nimble jasper
almost got me cuz he actually pressed disarm accidentally
at a decent time so i cant stop the reattempt at mindgames
thick reef
ahh
nimble jasper
idk
i just broke above 40 games on this char
and im already queuing into a 700 game andy
nimble jasper
yeah idk people are cooked
thick reef
ya
funny how much surv is a counter to war
legit did 10k opener for 20 sec
n still lsoe
cuz war cannot beat surv
elder wigeon
you can't mortal strike
elder wigeon
you need a two hander for MS
cosmic pumice
that's sos tupid
nimble jasper
might have something to do
with the disc being trained
@full quiver also kyrian hpriest
lucid walrus
onesided mirror
experienced this with playing arms into fury
they have absurd pressure but get heavily outdamaged in most of my games idk
indigo barn
Arms does more single target and 2 target dps, so it's not surprising.
nimble jasper
ye
wheat crane
Everytime i play some games as fury i just have an itch to go back kyrian arms lol
indigo barn
It be like that
narrow barn
hows warrior survival hunter atm in 3s
simple rock
never seen that variant of KFC in my life
but doesn't sound completely terrible on paper
near delta
Smexx is def trolling running SMF right? lol
wheat crane
There a fury mm hunter above 2100 dont know about survival tho
sharp meteor
Smexx is def trolling running SMF right? lol
It's day 9 of the season.
near delta
It's day 9 of the season.
Fair lol
sharp meteor
I'm pretty sure he tried the same leggo early last season.
elder wigeon
this guy tried to cheese me with bonegrinder
lucid walrus
i wondered if that’d even work
near delta
this guy tried to cheese me with bonegrinder
I randomly flipped to laros stream and saw you putting in work lol
elder wigeon
trying to teach these lfg healers how to beat rdruid comps
near delta
Also, wtf kyrian burst is nuts
elder wigeon
legit just pull the enemy dps behind pillar when they drink and hoj
near delta
I deleted this ww
elder wigeon
they have to stop drinking and are forced to trade
yea kyrian can be nuts rn
if you crit it's huge
elder wigeon
ur never gonna hoj the druid so just play short hoj and hoj warrior when we kite him away from his druid
forces the druid into sketchy positioning
or the warrior has to back off, both are good things
near delta
so sick of that bugged blur
It's super aids
wheat crane
Almost got 100-0d in like 3 globals by a dh earlier on my lock
So i dk
Not even cds
near delta
Almost got 100-0d in like 3 globals by a dh earlier on my lock
Was he running chaos theory?
They can get massive pressure with a fodder proc and chaos theory proc
near delta
lol
Man I should have switched to kyrian ages ago
Fun af
Until people chees the spear 😦
sharp meteor
Ripping off all of a ferals stuff is so good
near delta
call steward every game
I honestly keep him up vs stuff like SPs since they don't fade sometimes trying to wait for spear
humble frost
how the fuck do i authenticate my shit with blizzard to start up a group
lean burrow
I honestly keep him up vs stuff like SPs since they don't fade sometimes trying ...
what does it do?
spice hornet
gfade walk out of spear
near delta
what does it do?
It lets them know you're kyrian and not necro. Just dumb mind games that probably don't do anything lol
sharp meteor
I honestly keep him up vs stuff like SPs since they don't fade sometimes trying ...
Mhm. Similar thing with lock gate.
They know you have spear, they plan to fade spear, but if you don't spear then they sit there on fade/gate/feign or whatever and eventually start burning other cds.
indigo barn
Or just throw spear and do normal hits?
Then go ham after?
Spear still does damage
sharp meteor
It depends. Just sending spear if they're going to immediately hop out of it isn't great.
Especially Aff who can gate every single one if they so choose.
Well, I guess all specs, but Demo don't usually like to give up that talent.
indigo barn
I guess I mean spear them, they gate/fade, then you hit the go
If they are going to get out of spear every time, you might as well make them 'waste' a cd
In 3's I have been spearing, we wait for fade to pass then go hard
I have also seen A LOT of warlocks who take a short stroll from the gate, making it an easy spear
simple rock
most good priests will check your cov before fading willy nilly
esp since it's hard to force fade without using your biggest cd in the first place depending on your comp
near delta
esp since it's hard to force fade without using your biggest cd in the first pla...
Yup. Sometimes if I'm lucky and get a reck proc early then bladestorm lucks out and also gives a reck proc I can get it with nothing.
sage raptor
I wish the opponent could read our /say. I'd abuse the HELL out of the addon Owospeak lol
Degenewetes wike you bewong on da cwoss
warped warren
sand shadow
aw man, Indalamar has passed away
the OGest of OG warriors 
"Warrior Kill Rate"
Slam, the way it was supposed to be ❤️
sand shadow
clip is from very early Vanilla beta in like 03 or 04
sage raptor
Ooo
sand shadow
yah and the old animation bug after shouting
where youd be stuck in the "shouting" portion of it
good times
sage raptor
Do we know how he passed?
sand shadow
doesn't say in the article, something nasty if I were to guess considering he was just 41 apparently
sage raptor
Oh wow. That sucks :c
sand shadow
sand shadow
I can no longer remember much, but I believe the guild he was in in that clip, Nurfed, was also pretty well known in the beginning, at least on NA
think they were among the first few to slay Onyxia
sage raptor
That's neat. I love the name too.
sand shadow
on a completely different note, anyone else kind of unhappy w/ upcoming conquest cap removal?
sand shadow
can't wait to vs people 20ilvls higher than me next Friday
warped warren
sand shadow
RBGs about to blow up next wednesday
70k? Pretty sure its north of 100K
and thats on just 1 character
sand shadow
gonna have to forget running alts for a while
sand shadow
its far more dude
sand shadow
I mean, BLizzard did have two whole years to either increase honor cap
allow alt trading
change starting ilvl of conq pieces based on your current CR
or any of a number of fixes
but nooooo
you'll see, my guess is that RBG activity will explode next week
I mean, it's not a terribly hard guess to make
elder wigeon
i mean i won't arena until my warriors are full 311
no point
so yeah everyone and their mom will be rbging on tuesday
and honestly they should've just made all pvp gear 311 in pvp to experiment with their new gearing system for DF
really wouldn't be hard to do
sage raptor
That's an expansion feature for pvp
That's it
Enjoy! :D
With your culled pvp talents
bright spire
Any thoughts on Kyrian vs Necro for 2s with RSham?
winged totem
If we're way past haste cap, take massacre instead of frenzy or still take frenzy?
obsidian loom
the OGest of OG warriors <:sadga:869134702970273812>
Indalamar was one of the OGs rip
41 is a shame
simple rock
If we're way past haste cap, take massacre instead of frenzy or still take frenz...
30% is just the first threshold where you get diminishing returns on stats
still has value past that
I would only take massacre into rmp where you can't reliably maintain 4 stacks
simple rock
so even better then to keep frenzy
also what does way past haste cap even mean
you using a lot of m+ gear?
winged totem
ok lol well thats kinda the reason i was curious
simple rock
your vers and mastery must be pretty low
conquest uncapped next week so you'll be able to change your stats how you want if you grind
simple rock
those are great stats
winged totem
ok good
simple rock
how much pve are you wearing?
simple rock
why is my haste so low compared to yours lool. I have full haste gems + enchants
winged totem
idk lol human racial?
willow wraith
That’s smart having both rings as Lego so your vers doesn’t eat all your secondary budget
simple rock
oh I have unity on bracer yea lose like 60 haste there
willow wraith
Nice movement speed
simple rock
and your weap probably haste
willow wraith
Also haste + crit trinket?
winged totem
wep actually has mastery lol
plush owl
Woah how do you get to 420% movement speed?
winged totem
lmao think i was on mount
stuck karma
Haha.. Zooming around in arena with 420%
spice hornet
Arcane mages are running around near mount speed
left storm
alright how do you guys survive that initial burst against your healer from Ret pally and DH burst...
as an arms warrior
spice hornet
u dont
parry/fear/bolt and ull need big heals from your healer
ape ret will prob trinket one of those
ughh ive had that bug where you DC and it resets your frame positions twice so far this season, wtf
craggy socket
Why is gearing a new toon for pvp so fucking awful
Whoever came up with upgrading honor gear needs to be taken out back and beaten
spice hornet
ye it sucks balls
just get an honor cap this week and wait for next week
spoils of war will be back
craggy socket
It's just painful because you can't even do arena without full honor/last season gear
spice hornet
ye just do shuffles
craggy socket
and rbgs are full of the biggest idiots on the planet
spice hornet
yeup
willow wraith
I just take disarm against ret
left storm
also i struggle agains mm hunter's initial burst where they get 100% crit...i get one shot
hasty crane
Solo shuffle is a meme I see people all the time take their gear off so they insta die and the rounds go quicker
spice hornet
LMAO good idea
warped warren
Solo shuffle is a meme I see people all the time take their gear off so they ins...
you get fuck all honor if you lose tho
so its useless
near delta
spoils of war will be back
Also solo shuffle ilvl adjustment will be 278 so undergeared peeps won't get blown tf up as much
plucky sapphire
conquest uncapped next week so you'll be able to change your stats how you want ...
I've read that they're uncapping it early in the season but is there somewhere where they said it's uncapped after next reset?
spice hornet
yes they changed their mind
near delta
I heard something about how some people got more s4 loot too
stuck karma
Why is it terrific?
sharp meteor
Because it enables you to neckbeard it up and bis out a char in one week.
But on the flip side if you're short on time then you will fall behind bigly.
plucky sapphire
Very true
amber harness
why is condemn not being played anymore in pvp?
full quiver
Lol
craggy socket
yall watching this 1v1 tournment?
spice hornet
why is condemn not being played anymore in pvp?
Never ended up scaling well
Execute hits harder
Death sentence charge nerfed
cov was just boring af too, getting good spears (when they dont get cucked by gfade, ppl bugging them out) and banner just feel better and more meaningful to pres
amber harness
mh condemn was able to 3 tap in s1
spice hornet
then execute buffs came