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hasty crane
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Fury getting dbts in Dragonflight is huge for them in PVP. Feel like it might over take arms as being the go to PVP spec with how defensive they are becoming

raw summit
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You gotta kill people

hasty crane
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Ofc, but the main reason people went Arms in PVP was because d stance, MS, and dbts which fury all has now

wheat crane
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Hope fury is shit in df

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There i said it

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Arms or bust

ancient sonnet
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Arms is looking real nice

wheat crane
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Nice

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Aight fury can be good then

obsidian loom
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Second wind will be meta

plush owl
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Gearing up my new fury warrior, and I don’t have any tier pieces. Is that going to be the priority with my conquest instead of weapons?

ancient sonnet
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tier makes fury

mystic zodiac
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has anyone made a fury warrior talent tree for pvp? kinda struggling lol

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dragon flight

steel rune
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@quick streame who actually likes fury

sage raptor
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Fury lovers live in Arms mains mind rent free.

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I love it lol

mystic zodiac
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damn, ive wanted fury to be decent for awhile, i love it

spice hornet
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only 800 more conq this week KEKW

sage raptor
grand scaffold
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is arms good this season?

wheat jay
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XD

wheat crane
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sigh

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tokens on both toons

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guess ill be getting those phast sockets early

cloud crow
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Procced a vault weapon and gloves. Have no tier. 😓

spice hornet
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why they only increase the conq weekly by 100 pioints

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so fried

grand scaffold
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better than last time

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btw is arms or fury better this season

wheat crane
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Lol fury gets so cucked with gearing

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2 full price 2h weapons

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Titans grip should just double your mh stats or some shit

steel rune
torn stream
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Is there a beginners pvp guide somewhere on the discord

near delta
near delta
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There's a good fury pvp guide by joefernandes on wowhead

torn stream
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I guess just like, how to start earning conquest? I can watch guides on talents and stuff. But idk how to start pvp other than random bgs lol

grand scaffold
grand scaffold
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both

near delta
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It's pretty decent to good in 3s with turbo or Ret/warr

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In 2s fury is a lot better

grand scaffold
near delta
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All of its mobility

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And bloodrage to get out of roots with all the hunters running around

sharp meteor
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Buddy with unopened cosmic vaults had them comver to eternal tier

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Gg this season

paper oracle
spice hornet
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sub damage is still too high

grand scaffold
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arms is so much more fun that fury wish it was better

marble shuttle
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Hi. I am gearing a baby warrior cuz people like my main warrior but cant play with everyone 😄 so making a baby warrior and im full s4 honor gear and this week i would have enough conq to buy a weapon however i have 0 tier pieces. should i cough up the 1800 for a weapon or get tier slots?
https://check-pvp.fr/us/Tichondrius/Wártárd

paper oracle
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tier first then weapon

near delta
wheat crane
spice hornet
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i swear to god fodder is currently bugged because the last 4 DHs ive fought are getting near 100% uptime on the demons

sage raptor
grand scaffold
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how much worse is single minded fury than titans grip?

spice hornet
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bretty bad

sage raptor
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I mean, you lose out on every stat as well as damage. While I don't have the exact %, it's pretty garbo.

grand scaffold
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so what use does single minded fury have

sage raptor
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Rp

wheat crane
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Hes not joking

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Its actually for rp

grand scaffold
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wdym

fair dome
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pulverizer bis for pvp this season? or unknown yet? wondering if use conq on tier slots first

grand scaffold
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uh

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if you're fury buy the mastery 2h weapon

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if you're arms buy the crit 2h weapon

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buy tier if you dont have last seasons tier set

elfin surge
paper oracle
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we take 1800 conquest no matter the stats xd

fair dome
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thanks!

wheat crane
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Does arms need 4 pc?

sharp meteor
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I mean ya probably lmao

sage raptor
# grand scaffold wdym

Role-playing is literally the only use SMF has. It has increased attack speed but it's completely negligible by how bad the downsides are.

sharp meteor
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Ya hit people with fish

sage raptor
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At least there's talents in DF that buffs 1h damage but I highly doubt it'll see use.

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You also talent into titans grip so I hope I can make a meme 2h build as fury.

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Already made a defensive-less dk build.

spice hornet
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seems they buffed flux gains

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got 1450 for first rated bg win

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pretty sure it was like 700 last week

fickle forge
spice hornet
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oh they just did ith a hotfix that is going live to all realms imminently: All Cosmic Flux rewards from PvP, Mythic+, and Raid sources have been increased by 100%. twitter.com/Lontar_wow/sta…

paper oracle
fickle forge
paper oracle
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you're gonna get the non-vers cape for sure

fickle forge
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Who approved that thing

spice hornet
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just an item created to secretly troll pvpers

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i know it

near delta
nimble jasper
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SMF=rping dollar store outlaw rogue

wheat jay
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tg is for skinny roleplayers

full quiver
fickle forge
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You also have sub-10% uptime on Hamstring

full quiver
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That's a false narrative based on old gameplay

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Smh

fickle forge
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A true narrative based on old, but perhaps still persisting, gameplay*

full quiver
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Because now I have a giant bouncing hamstring icon if my target isn't hamstrung

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Lmao

fickle forge
full quiver
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Duelist war smh

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I have the highest wing clip uptime in NA

fickle forge
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Been dueling outside Orgrimmar for the past 5 hours, why am I not duelist yet?

wheat jay
nimble jasper
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scoob should play ww

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where your hamstring

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is auto refreshed

full quiver
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Bro I swear

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I press it too much on ww

nimble jasper
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ye

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my fave thing to do to other monks

full quiver
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Cause the root is sick lol

nimble jasper
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is root them after their tigers lust

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and watch them mald

full quiver
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Lol

fickle forge
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Lemme just log TBC and root with Hamstring too

nimble jasper
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also knocking melee off blades edge

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with cjl

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is big funny

full quiver
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Guess they'll be annoying enough with spear for 8s already lol

fickle forge
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Can't believe we struggled forever to get Blizz to do something about DT/IV/SB row, and now we get all of it at once

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Completely fair

near delta
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Blizz is like fuck it here's all 3

wheat jay
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I checked all trees finally, for both pve and pvp

full quiver
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😂

wheat jay
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Last time I was so happy was in legion

full quiver
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Don't pretend u play arms

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Smh

fickle forge
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He does for PvE

full quiver
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Are we counting that

wheat jay
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I got CE as arms

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Got 2k on arms in legion

full quiver
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Ok then I was a hunter main and didn't fotm reroll

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🤡 🤡

wheat jay
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Bro you're a fotm main all the way through

nimble jasper
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my first warrior 2k

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i was so clueless

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arms dh

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paintrain every game

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win in opener

wheat jay
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I got it in 2s

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Legion s5 iirc

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Felt so fucking good

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Was also a panda hahahaha

nimble jasper
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oh

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that was my rogues first 2k

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in 2s

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no dr tracker

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btw

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just w key as assa

fickle forge
full quiver
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Nah I played hunter in pve already 🤡

nimble jasper
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paintrain

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with dark arch

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was nut

fickle forge
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Back when Memewinds were at its peak

nimble jasper
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my dh’s 2k that season we triple killed a turbo in opener

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grip rdru into triple chaos nova

fickle forge
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Avatar, reck, hero, doom and dark all off GCD

nimble jasper
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then bfa came

wheat jay
full quiver
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My first 2k was jungle as the feral druid

fickle forge
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Instantly fucked

nimble jasper
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and dhdk became a disgusting dampener comp

full quiver
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Season 1 of slands

wheat jay
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I was winning solely off of my pve skills

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Full chase, full dmg

fickle forge
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Hero cleave pales compared to DK+guardian druid

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92% damp

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What the fuck

nimble jasper
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ok

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people who played s3 bfa bear

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can fuck themselves

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also idk

fickle forge
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Wanna PvP? Go farm your tank trinkets

nimble jasper
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s2 bfa herocleave

full quiver
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If the cheese is there soobz will come

nimble jasper
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was worse

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imo

full quiver
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🐀

wheat jay
nimble jasper
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with triple pack spirit rsham

full quiver
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🐀

fickle forge
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Meanwhile, destro was playing shadowlands

nimble jasper
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rmp/rps andy in s4 bfa

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every destro too scared to play corruptions

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in fear of being spited

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bomb gate double claws

fickle forge
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Spite trinket

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Was the worst

nimble jasper
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kill through wall at 100%

fickle forge
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Many bad trinkets recently, but spite was the peak

nimble jasper
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had a game where lock just died from 80% while i was running away

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cuz double thing from beyond

wheat jay
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I liked shackles

nimble jasper
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rmpala was prob the worst for it

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trinket kidney

wheat jay
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Unless it was rmp using it

nimble jasper
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get half hoj’ed while still in spites

wheat jay
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Then it sucked ass

nimble jasper
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die through everything

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idk rps was more interesting

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i just played a few rmp for wins cuz that comp didnt req voice

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and i was cba

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my priest said fuck this season im off to play mhw

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till SL

wheat jay
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Ahahahahhahaa fuck fury

steep inlet
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Removed Die by the Sword from the Class tree and returned it to the Arms tree.

wheat jay
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Yep

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Best change

sage raptor
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Fury>Arms

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100% parries/dodges are for pussies

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What do you need it for? To protect your soft, supple body?

wheat jay
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And what do you need enraged regen for?

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Nothing is gonna heal your depression

sage raptor
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I don't. I simply calm down.

wheat jay
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So, calm regeneration?

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Healthy coping mechanisms?

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Are you sure you play fury?

iron basalt
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I got weapon in the vault. I'm playing fury atm. Should I buy a second weap for off-hand right away or is the off-hand dam not as important?

sharp meteor
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I thought it was comparable to buying normal gear.

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It's usually offhand for dw specs that is a big deal.

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er mainhand

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Rogue at one point was better off saving offhand for last

sage raptor
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I honestly thought the same rule applied for fury so I bought my off hand last.

sharp meteor
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it's just so expensive for tg that i usually just chill on offhand

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and hope to get it from box or something

sage raptor
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Last season I completely forgot to buy it for a while >.>

elder wigeon
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pretty sure off hand is a big deal on fury

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having my 311 weapon in off hand increases my rampage dmg 8626 -> 8984, having the 311 in main hand goes 8626 -> 9020

indigo barn
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Biggest stat boost

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If you have tier, you should ge tsecond wep

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Also

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Fury tier mobility i s back, but weaker

elder wigeon
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yeah that's pretty shit for pvp

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unless rage generation is really high it's gonna be hard to maintain slaughterhouse

wheat jay
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Oh that's nice

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So tier set but not retarded strong

indigo barn
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Rage regen has a few improvements in DF

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Autos not missing while enraged contributes alot

wheat jay
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Tbh, i dont think fury should have those charges in reckless abandon

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Not a healthy interaction

south birch
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Very healthy for our uptime Youre

indigo barn
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Maybe in DF

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Some clases have way to much mobility in SLands

wheat jay
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That's kinda strong ngl

wheat crane
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Locks already have a conduit for that

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66% speed atm after port

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Not the root part tho

sharp meteor
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aka no charge root

wheat crane
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Yea didnt read passed the 50% speed lol

indigo barn
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30% uptime

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coolio

south birch
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the fuck

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shadowflame is a 6 sec 70% aoe slow with a 15s cd

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my god

wheat jay
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That's not too bad honestly

sharp meteor
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Log onto alpha to see if they fixed elysian might and spear doesn't even work if you aren't in a Shadowlands zone.

sharp meteor
wheat crane
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Ngl my 2 classes lock n warr lookin prettyyyyyy good

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Love to see it.

indigo barn
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Hpal has blessing of summer ratge

lucid walrus
full quiver
spice hornet
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what is with MM dmg this season holy fuck

full quiver
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That's why I want a second hunter

spice hornet
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won this game but still

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its unbelievable what 2 aimed shots do

full quiver
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I swear they're low key best rdps

spice hornet
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they are

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last week killed my disc in 1 sec literally in a spider sting

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100-0

full quiver
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Oh that screen shot was you

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LOL

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I couldn't remember where I got it

spice hornet
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yes that one

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fucking retarded

full quiver
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😂

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Outplayed bro

sharp meteor
full quiver
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Lol

sharp meteor
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it was like summers tricks and w/e and just bang through wall

spice hornet
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so cringe

full quiver
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Idk why but I always struggle into MM on survival lol

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You lime them all game and they still out dps you with arrow

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You stand on top of them as a melee spamming raptor strike, still out dps you

spice hornet
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hoyl fuck nessper playing some cringe ass outlaw arcane rdruid shit

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whew 10min game

near delta
spice hornet
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big dampener

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the mage is running around at like 150% move speed perma

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somehow

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we won tho but its just uinbelievable how outlaw still is nessper just vanishing to cheap and sitll unpunishable for that

obsidian loom
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every disc ive found in lfg cant find their dispel button

spice hornet
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3 MM hunter comps in a row

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hmmm

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this game is so horrible man what the fuck. MM is so fucking broken

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die through all defensives

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even externals from healer

obsidian loom
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this is great

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bos too

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just to make you kill yourself irl

spice hornet
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double bops with fastidious as well

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so cringe

simple rock
sage raptor
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Oh rip

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What a wierd choice node

simple rock
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yeah doesn't make a whole lot of sense

lean burrow
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within 12 yd

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isn't it useless?

simple rock
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def not

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can save your healers trinket

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think you just take the L and choose it for fear comps

lean burrow
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is it like lock fears healer, we run back to healer to remove fear

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and now lock runs away to brazil

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deadge hopefully lock won't be oppresive in df

sage raptor
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.>

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Someone didn't get the memo

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🙏

indigo barn
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70% slow

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Damn

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That's juicy

simple rock
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we have that rn baseline

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this talent revision is weird man. have to talent into throw attack and leap

lean burrow
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heroic throw > leap

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this talent tree is nuts

simple rock
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oh I see titanic throw is just heroic throw juiced up

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for pve

lean burrow
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DF arms tree looks so good

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seems like there's ms, execute or dot builds

indigo barn
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All warrior trees are looking solid

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Prot cancer let's go

lean burrow
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now if only they bring back condemn animation for that 80% hp execute talent

spice hornet
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when you q into outlaw/mw as 2s

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in 2s* as fury

indigo barn
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Just dont

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It's that easy

spice hornet
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should just leave the game

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do you think they feel skilled when they win

lean burrow
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rogue is skill class

vernal plank
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Storm of Swords / Collateral Damage for buffed whirlwinds after your sweeping strikes window looks fucking insane, but relies on you being able to sweep 2 targets

sage raptor
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Well not years but I've played outlaw for a while and I won't apologize for bullying lesser melee.

quasi zephyr
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got a weapon in the vault, now do i buy the 2nd one or pray again for vault luck next week lol

indigo barn
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I'd you're pushing hard, buy one. If not, wait for next vault and unlucky, buy.

near delta
spice hornet
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No I have succumbed to the bruin madness

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Now I understand

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His cry for help…

thick reef
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bruin is the best warrior

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you are following a good path my friend

sand shadow
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i swear to god, never has warrior been more trash in 2s, it;'s absolutely insane how I am spam losing to people with 1/5th exp AND frontal lobotomy

lucid walrus
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bfa s4 felt like rock bottom to me

sand shadow
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no, bfa s4 was really

tired portal
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now that arms doesnt have ignore pain in DF, do you think they will return Dstance to 20% reduced damage in pvp?

sand shadow
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far better

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I am legit losing to reroll factory chimpanzees

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w/ zero outplay potential available to me

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I face hpriest/sub, priest chastises my guy, I storm the kidney opener, cancelaura BS into disarm the rogue, he trinkets, I insta stun. I cocntinue dodging their every single freaking go, legit every single one. Whether it's pre-BM, pre-BS, pre-IP/SR, pre-disarm, stun his stun, fear his dance, all of these in a freaking row

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priest is absolutely tapped for 2minutes straight, no kap

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and I can't freaking finish the game and end up dying from a 2x30k evis

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on a pre-shout go whilst using conduit PLUS rally talent

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w/ pre-IP

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nothing I do matters in the fucking slightest

lean burrow
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if you pre-BM, doesn't it reduce hp when it ends?

sand shadow
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no

lean burrow
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battlemaster trinket?

sand shadow
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yes, battlemaster trinket

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you're essentially borrowing X hp for Y sec

lean burrow
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wait, if it gives 10k hp and rogue damages you for 10k, then it ends, you would still be full hp?

sand shadow
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??

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I am 93k hp

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I BM

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say I get 110k hp

lean burrow
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numbers just for concept

sand shadow
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it heals me for the amount increased for the duration

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"heals"

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how bad is warrior in 2s you wonder?

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last ssn

lean burrow
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it heals? not like rally?

sand shadow
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I got 2.1k first day, 2.4k like day or two after

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this season, I am yet to reach 2.1k

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legit yet to reach fucking 2.1k

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playing w/ the same hpally

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I played with last ssn

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I am losing to literal newbies

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that can't even disarm

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legit killing their healer and disarm available and no disarm

sand shadow
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you're borrowing hp

lean burrow
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isn't it supposed to be used at low hp then

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to live longer

lucid walrus
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not exactly

lean burrow
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idk how to use it otherwise

sand shadow
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no its not

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you use it pre-go on yourself

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to gain a buffer

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that will last longer than the go itself

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they have to go through it

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to kill you

lucid walrus
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it's no different than a very short-lived absorb

sand shadow
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yes, you do end up losing said buffer, but you ARE SUPPOSEDLY LIVING THE GO

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but wait

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its fucking sub

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which literally has dance every 30s

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iNsAnE roGuE pLaYs duDe

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mOsT coMplEx pVp cLasS dUde, iTs so HarD wHat i aM dOinG

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continues to literally, quite fucking literally no exag, get outplayed on every single go

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and ends up beating me because he's a god spec and apparently im a fucking pleb Skaa out of Mistborn

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orc, sephuz, I don't even end up leaving freaking stun and die 100 to 0 whilst having done pre-defensives

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with freaking plate

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god this game is fucking doghsit

lean burrow
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I was thinking to go log on for a few games

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but this helped me make a better decision, thank you

sand shadow
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I am legit losing to monkey subs that sprint to my healer, CC him, and run back to me to KS me and get disarmed

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2s has always been a clown bracket, but I've never been actually, personally, offended by the balance. It's actually disgraceful the type of games I lose

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that it's even possible to lose them

lean burrow
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why not play threes

sand shadow
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also, what the fuck is wrong with demo warlocks, last time they ported my spear it was like max range for it to work

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I just had a game where the fucker legit ported 10yds away

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and untethetered from it

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god damn ranged rogue that blasted spec

near delta
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Has anyone else noticed the game feeling super laggy after the update?

sand shadow
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dont worry im sure blizz is on it once they can issue their 150th M+ fix in the past 5 days

near delta
sand shadow
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yeah

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pvp is fucking peachy

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you're right

near delta
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Tru lmao

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But remember this is an "experimental" season

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So....

sage raptor
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So less pvp attention than before. If that's possible.

craggy socket
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M+ is fun on my warrior rn

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PUMPIN

wheat crane
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Rogue just does too much dmg

native sonnet
lucid walrus
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yes

simple rock
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which xpac?

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yes

native sonnet
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lol

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sorry i'm super out of the loop on wow stuff, just now starting to read about the game again in prep for dragonflight

simple rock
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sub has very strong burst no sustain

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assa has decent burst and sustain

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outlaw has the worst burst but most sustain and survivability

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and cc

sage raptor
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Outlaw venthyr burst is sustained damage but faster lol

simple rock
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whenever I fight venthyr outlaw it doesn't feel like they do dmg outside of kidney

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but still autolose unless they troll keks

sage raptor
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I love my venthyr outlaw. I made a new account because I moved out of my dad's house. He's a little baby. Probably gonna push with him.

nimble jasper
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venthyr blunderbuss is a shit ton of dmg if they proc tho

warm pollen
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me and magnuszz

lean burrow
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fury lost parry in df pepsihands

lean burrow
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and actionbar

indigo barn
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Resune would have committed sudoku if fury was best for an entire expac

elder wigeon
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fury can be better I just want arms playable outside 2 comps

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annoying I can't play arms unless hybrid comp and even then fury is still better

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I enjoy melee caster a lot more like arms sp

lucid walrus
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think it would've been goofy if fury flat-out had more defensives

elder wigeon
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yeah

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considering you can have warpaint + d-stance, it's kinda ridiculous already

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plus fury already has a bunch of self healing AND enraged regen is getting buffed in DF

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arms definitely needs some help in that regard

lucid walrus
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impending's looking nice but that's about all that comes to mind

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bitter immunity also offers no immunity lmao

elder wigeon
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should be called bitter cure

lucid walrus
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bitter remedy even

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somethin to that degree

hushed grove
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speed/Leech stat from gear doesnt work in arena right?

lucid walrus
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correct

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if it's enchanted or gemmed it does

hushed grove
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ty vm

lean burrow
lean burrow
elder wigeon
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I’m fine with that

fickle forge
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Is Hpriest meta on its way out?!?!

wheat crane
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Rsham meta obvs

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By .5%

fickle forge
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NA has disc as a clear winner

wheat crane
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Obviously na cant be bothered releveling off their priest when they can just respec

fickle forge
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Ah yea

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Like every warlock

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Or every frost mage

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Or every arms warrior

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🤔

warped warren
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arms copium

bright spire
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Do we know what pvp ilvl are top players currently?

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By that I mean what does last season duleist gear scale to in pvp approx

warped warren
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🤨

bright spire
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what should this number be before trying to actually get 2.1k

warped warren
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whatever you can get

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theres no gear floor for x rating

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🤨

bright spire
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fair, but I usually get stuck at 2k rating because I face a lot of people with duelist gear and lower mmr

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so I was wondering now, that people can't buy full pvp gear, what the nubmer is hovering around

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but I guess that's just my problem/skill issue

warped warren
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if youre 295 youre well above the average

bright spire
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Ok ty, still smooth brain warrior but I guess gear will help then

full quiver
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Lol

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It's literally week 2 if you have duelist gear from last season almost no one is gear gapping you

bright spire
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i farmed 298 versa pve gear

full quiver
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Should be good for 2.1 push then

coarse portal
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Here I am being happy with a weapon from the vault for pvp

sand shadow
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Every new season, I just play on the warrior that gets better RNG from Vault since i have 2 of them

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And now, my old main that turned into an alt, then turned into a main, then alt again, is now going to be main again because I got a wep on it and not the other

full quiver
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Lol

coarse portal
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I'm scrub lord, I only got 1 toon lol

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All other toons eventually become alts that never get used

full quiver
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I'm probably just going to play war to boost buddies druid in s1 gear

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Idk if I'll even gear second one

coarse portal
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I got the hammer from vault instead of sword, but I'll take a free weapon any day lmao

full quiver
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Hammers better for fury isn't it the mastery oneM

coarse portal
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It is, but I'm arms

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Either way still works lol

sand shadow
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I have like 4 warriors leftover from when I played a lot of arena, before the oldgeness

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now I just get tilted in 2s, apparently

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There's an Emissary quest for 291 in front of the Vault in case anyone missed it

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4xMythic dungoons

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6ilvls above max cosmic gear, might be worth the bother

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myself, I always seem to get raid trinkets

coarse portal
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If old warrior soul, at least a good one lol

sand shadow
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yeah I am definitely ditching the trinket tier set bonus for that as a warrior

craggy socket
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Should my first conq piece be 2h weapon? Im still using s2-s3 gear

wheat crane
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Tellin me to go do pve for 6 ilv

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Still not sure how people live in mythic+, running the same 6 dungeons for 2 years

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At least arena is dynamic

nimble jasper
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duelist geared people from last season are liek 287

bright spire
sand shadow
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just a PSA in case people didn't bother to check the quest when opening vault

nimble jasper
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some people bought wep already but yeah

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few matchups you shouldnt win as warrior in 2s

sand shadow
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its 4 normal mythics, too, not to mention that not everybody has their toons fully decked out in cosmic duelist

nimble jasper
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outlaw/hunter

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with healer is rough

sand shadow
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feral

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WW

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demo

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🙂

nimble jasper
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i feel an optimally played feral

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loses to like

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no one

sand shadow
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RM 🙂

wheat crane
sand shadow
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assa 🙂

nimble jasper
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ngl i played rm s1 and its so disgusting

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how much more idiotproof it is now

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that rogue can solo you with kyrian lego

wheat crane
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What are you talking about, pressing db > sheep is super skill intensive

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If you get kicked you have to press ring

nimble jasper
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the fucked thing rn is

wheat crane
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Like bruh 600iq needed

nimble jasper
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assa is considered bad comparatively just because sub and outlaw

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are 10x better

craggy socket
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What totems should I be killin?

sand shadow
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the good ones are, once again, running greater pyro too

sand shadow
craggy socket
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Ok cool ty

nimble jasper
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why play the rogue spec

sand shadow
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Healing Stream, earthbind, earthgrab depending on context

nimble jasper
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with less defensives

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and less control

sand shadow
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also kill Counterstrike totem on sight if anyone actually uses it

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which happens once in a 1000 games at this point

nimble jasper
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i swear i dont see counterstrike

wheat crane
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And the annoying one thats basically kyrian spear

nimble jasper
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except from low mmr rshams

sand shadow
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right, the static field too

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so many totems

nimble jasper
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i see that totem more from enh

sand shadow
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it doesnt DR w/ Spear too

nimble jasper
#

i wonder how long till the general ladder plebs

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realize how spooky venthyr outlaw is

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monka

sand shadow
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nah, venthyr outlaw is for the higher echelon of outlaw gamers

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echoing is too much CDR, which the reroll factory plebs require to live

nimble jasper
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so kinda like how higher echelon wws

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delete your existence in a half sweep?

sand shadow
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btw, the first hardcore outlaw on EU, Triimaz, ran Venthyr always, back in S2 when the Outlaw pollution hadn't yet started

nimble jasper
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yet the reg ones hit like a pool noodle

full quiver
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Reminded me of this

nimble jasper
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yeah trimaz legit made a guide update saying venthyr good now

sand shadow
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@nimble jasper idk if you know who Tyga is, he's spent the entirety of SL trying to be the best one-shot WW on the ladder more or less

nimble jasper
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nessper did play venthyr outlaw on na in s2 a bit

nimble jasper
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kinda funny guy ngl

sand shadow
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the way he does his oneshots in stun is fucking diabolical

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he lets you sit in stun

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for ~3-3.5s

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and then flops you in the last 1-1.5s

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baiting your trinket essentially

nimble jasper
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i love how when he does viewer games hes like

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"dont wall, good good"

sand shadow
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reminds me of high IQ Rogue-Mage players

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where the mage would combust the last 1.5s of stun

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to try and surprise you

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has actually worked on me

warped warren
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tyga is an OG

nimble jasper
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but yeah idk

sand shadow
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because everyone has a mental block in that scenario

nimble jasper
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my friend said hes cooked trying to claim

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hes the first to do incap sweep on kill targets

sand shadow
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nobody wants to trinket 1.5s remaining CC

sand shadow
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it was a similar thing

nimble jasper
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but i mean trimaz's old alt rog

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was legit named venthyrblast for a reason

sand shadow
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cap, ToD (it worked differently then), SEF, go

nimble jasper
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yeah tod back in the day was a ticking time bomb

sand shadow
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ToD in BFA was like... the dmg you do in the duration is added up and explodes the target after like 6s or sth

nimble jasper
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so you could apply it in incap if you dont auto the guy

sand shadow
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yeah

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thats my recollection too

nimble jasper
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legion and bfa

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it was a ticking time bomb

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now its back to its og execute version

sand shadow
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now, if you get ToD'd you just die

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unless you're a god class with 3 cheat deaths like mage

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or priest

nimble jasper
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back in mop

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if you tried to intervene tod

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you'd insta die

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regardless of wat you had

sand shadow
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you do that even now really

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@elder wigeon linked a clip yday where that happened

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ww+fury fighting TSG, enemy warr venes DK

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gets deleted from ToD from the vene

nimble jasper
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does it delete you from full hp

sand shadow
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it wasn't actually a full one shot, but very close

full quiver
sand shadow
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can scroll up and check the vid, it's hilarious (in a terrible kind of way)

nimble jasper
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the biggest hamper seems to be the ui being a buggy pos

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and not letting you tod

paper oracle
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i'm kind of glad TOD is a little buggy on its activation because it's pretty much a guaranteed kill. so it translates to a flat 15% EHP nerf to all classes

nimble jasper
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when it lights up

paper oracle
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without having to press a single button

full quiver
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Touch of death should be 15yrd range

nimble jasper
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yeah idk venruki is cooked at ww

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let me just bonedust too early

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so enemy can prevent my entire go

full quiver
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So I was right venthyr outlaw is good

nimble jasper
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its his only english yt vid

full quiver
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Basically official outlaw theory crafter now

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Ama

sand shadow
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ya, venthyr blunderbuss is nuts

nimble jasper
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now hes playing double outlaw or sub outlaw with howton

sand shadow
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you get lashes for a billion

full quiver
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Outlaw is the new arms

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Can play with any dps

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Lol

sand shadow
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he got r1 last ssn as sub/outlaw/dudu

full quiver
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Weird comp

sand shadow
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2 rogues

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can't go wrong

nimble jasper
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idk now w/o vanish lego

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tbh

full quiver
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I guess double blind would be toxic af lol

nimble jasper
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rat was playing outlaw thug originally

full quiver
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Get trinket with one, reblind next dr

nimble jasper
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but said sub thug is just better

full quiver
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I want to try MM thug so bad

paper oracle
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outlaw thug is sooooo obnoxious to heal against

full quiver
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But can't make a second hunter yet

nimble jasper
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nessper was only person playing venthyr outlaw in s2

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and even then said it was only a 2s spec

craggy socket
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Against bm hunters do we have to kill pet to win?

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in 2s im getting kited like mofo

near delta
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Bruh they're bringing back blessings of summer in dragon flight??? Lol

nimble jasper
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yeah idk you can hold one proc for go but rest you gotta hope on rng

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i personally dont agree with not playing lashing scars

near delta
nimble jasper
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when i play venthyr resonator

full quiver
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But with how overturned everything else is, hpal rotational healing feels awful as nfae

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Lol

near delta
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Good

sage raptor
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Who said it wasnt?

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Besides the speds in the rogue disc

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Ironic

near delta
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Yeah its the pve choice weird thinking the most damage wouldn't be at least good lol

left storm
#

hey guys what do you do as an arms war when monk pops touch of karma?

ancient sonnet
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just punch through it typically. Karma is basically nothing

full quiver
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Execute them lol

sharp meteor
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Kill them through it because Karma isn't a real button

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Fists of Fury is a better defensive than Karma

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They'll either disarm, disable, ring, port, roll, serpent kick or fists defensively to survive

fickle forge
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Imagine pressing karma to block 80% of an Execute

craggy socket
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Why on earth do you need to be friendly to send your alts flux or soul ash/cinder i cannot fucking wait for this xpac to be over

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account wide rep needs to happen 7 years ago

fickle forge
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Friendly is attained in 3 seconds though

craggy socket
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How

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I dont wanna do an hour of shitty quests ive already done

vast haven
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How amazing is it that we’re poised to get storm bolt, double time, and impending victory in dragonflight! Has always been so lame that we could only get one of the three.

sharp meteor
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it just sucks if you did skip before it gave 2k rep

nimble jasper
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idk you kind of just play the game and get friendly

nimble jasper
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and more if it was better than kyrian

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anyone who thought venthyr wasnt good when it was default pre double lego is dumdum

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but most outlaws are fotm reroller

fickle forge
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Most <insert meta spec here> are FotM rerollers

near delta
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All these fury mains definitely played it in season 2

fickle forge
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Yeah guys I was hardcore maining affli all of SL, trust me

spice hornet
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Compared to korthia

nimble jasper
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im seeing alot of ele lately

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wild to me how fast people reroll

nimble jasper
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unless in mirrors

full quiver
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Lol

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Even when they suck its absolutely cancer as a fury war

paper oracle
nimble jasper
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idk

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people who live in lfg

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are freaks

paper oracle
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i have an ele buddy his routine would be sit in lfg for 30 min before logging off to play another game

nimble jasper
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in itself

marble shuttle
#

doesn anyone know how to beat aff lock?

paper oracle
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now he gets insta ques

paper oracle
fickle forge
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Send help, EU 3s ladder is fucked

nimble jasper
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idk aff gets eaten alive by fury

marble shuttle
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how? every game he runs and does waymore dmg than anyone in game

nimble jasper
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good thing

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crushing blow charge exists

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and unslowable during conq banner

near delta
fickle forge
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You don't outlast affli, you gun it down like a real Chad

nimble jasper
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idk you just go in

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and chop up affli

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when his darksoul isnt up

near delta
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Is no one else just dying to the aff the entire game even without dark soul? I've been playing with rando healers so maybe they just don't know how to heal aff damm.

marble shuttle
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all im doing is dying to aff since s4. after they buffed em all i do is die

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you can rush em but they out run you and you have to switch or die

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even if you switch you still die

nimble jasper
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idk what goes through their brains

ancient sonnet
#

lfg is rougharino

nimble jasper
#

0 healing, cc when it doesnt fucking matter

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no offensive pressure

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literal deadweight idiot

near delta
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Just run in for a fear when we've won and die lol

nimble jasper
nimble jasper
#

who run into enemy rsham priest los as they’re dying

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and get purgebanged for the kill

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like what logic went through your peabrain to decide yeah lets also get dicked by other team’s priest and make it worse

near delta
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I need to learn to heal so I understand their pain more lol

nimble jasper
#

if im on my rogue and i see an hpriest

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default stun

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i just instant leave

fickle forge
nimble jasper
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yeah idk lfg makes the freest wins i have to work for

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its so fried

near delta
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Was playing my ww last week

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With this rdruid

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Dude goes in vs a ret fury team

nimble jasper
#

oh

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i just gave up playing with rdruids from lfg

near delta
#

And rake stuns plus mighty bash

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Insta

nimble jasper
#

90% of them

#

are boosted

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and cant play without a wizard

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or hunter

near delta
#

So now my weep is drd the fuck out

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And I just have to wait as we're both dying

full quiver
#

In 2s you can play IV and BT and outheal their go

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Atleast last season lol

near delta
#

I told him hey man can you not do that my dr

nimble jasper
#

priest just makes me mald cuz i played with them alot on my rogue in earlier seasons

near delta
#

And he was like are you an idiot?

nimble jasper
#

when it wasnt broken

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and priests who cant fear off target on my kidneys

near delta
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I didn't leave instantly after the first game so he was right about that

fickle forge
#

Rdruids that clone your kill target

nimble jasper
#

just make me want to /afk out

fickle forge
nimble jasper
#

idk

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im not playing with an rdruid

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if he hasnt been at least 2.4

near delta
nimble jasper
#

in a non bear form all game season

near delta
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Bdb sweep target

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Proc keefers

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Oh clone

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Well there's our go I guess

nimble jasper
#

i had that happen once on monk with a guy

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i just afked the game

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cba

fickle forge
nimble jasper
#

well i had one game

near delta
#

Lmfao

nimble jasper
#

we won next sweep so i played it out

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i just won the game next one

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and left group

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after flaming

near delta
#

I've been thinking about gearing a disc cause an offensive healer sounds sorta fun

nimble jasper
#

every time i q

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into sub hpriest

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they play god awful

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but hehe xd s4 sub rogue

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just almost solo me without his priest having any clue

#

whats going on

#

fucking send a mindgames on me outside go more will you

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@near delta big red flag imo is people who still have default 265 unity belt

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and a non 291 lego in other slot

near delta
nimble jasper
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also not playing kyrian priest in 2s

ancient sonnet
#

whats war's best healer in 2s?

nimble jasper
#

playing 3s

ancient sonnet
#

yea fair

near delta
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He'd either press it before running in and they run away

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Or he'd hold it the entire game

spice hornet
#

sepsis dot is a joke now wow

nimble jasper
#

kidney kill target fear off target

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flag boon

#

get cds or win opener

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so hard bro

spice hornet
#

some guy in here was defending outlaw yesterday

nimble jasper
#

lfg at low mmr on rog just makes me mald

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cuz i know we can win in 2mins

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but shitters are awful

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and make it take 4

spice hornet
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saying they deserve to bully melee because of the years of being a bad spec

nimble jasper
#

it was good in legion

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so uhh

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nice meme

#

plunder your armor

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plunder your cr

near delta
nimble jasper
#

they basically killed pvp outlaw in bfa

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when they cut traits in half

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you could roast someone in stuns with triple deadshot triple heedmycall

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idk it was for the better

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bte stun was toxic

spice hornet
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And live lord for 6min

near delta
#

Ah I remember seeing pikaboo playing outlaw in that tournament

nimble jasper
#

was mid s1

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where they both needed to connect

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and cds were required to be popped

fickle forge
#

Eyo that was when rogue didn't have disarm

near delta
nimble jasper
#

i mean that too but s1 sub

lucid walrus
nimble jasper
#

you also had less dance charges

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from no kyrian lego

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which also meant people played subterfuge mfd

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less dam

#

but yeah idk

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eu is just better at rogue mage

#

by a mile

wheat jay
#

ye but na is better at

lean burrow
#

eating

wheat jay
#

are you tho

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seeing how fat y'all are i'd say youre quite bad at eating properly

elder wigeon
paper oracle
wheat jay
#

No

elder wigeon
#

eating properly and eating really fast the best are different he means eating things that aren't equal parts grease and butter

full quiver
#

Wat

elder wigeon
#

just EU speak, properly being ambiguous

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makes it sound like a skill issue

lucid walrus
near delta
steep inlet
#

Its a fucking joke

#

Imagine putting a fucking 50% MS

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On the god tier class since vanilla

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I wanna puke

near delta
#

Yes imagine giving a constantly solid pvp spec a > 25% ms

#

Silly

steep inlet
#

Fucking disgusting

elder wigeon
#

lol all MS effects are reduced to 25% in pvp

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except specific cases

near delta
elder wigeon
#

wizards should never have a MS effect though

craggy socket
#

Warriors got some insane shit in df the mage trees are bad

elder wigeon
#

that is true

craggy socket
#

I play both

elder wigeon
#

DF warrior tree is beyond insane

craggy socket
#

Just give them deep freeze call it a day ffs lol

elder wigeon
#

I only hate wizards when warrior can't play with one

fickle forge
#

So frost mage is now out here throwing MS?

elder wigeon
#

WPS is about it rn

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and none of the sp's wanna play it

fickle forge
#

I mean WMX is just about never bad

elder wigeon
#

it's not good rn

craggy socket
#

Guess we will see come DF. I’m pretty hyped expansion looks funn

fickle forge
#

It's fine

craggy socket
#

Mages don’t have any comps besides rm rmp right now

elder wigeon
#

shamans dks and dh's make mage life miserable outside RMP

near delta
#

Don't think it makes sense to rage before actually seeing it in context

spice hornet
elder wigeon
#

mage does have a colossally dogshit design rn

simple rock
#

man I can't wait till ele gets ms

#

meatball burn ms or something

elder wigeon
#

bro just reduce all healing in pvp by 25%

#

no point in every class having ms

wheat jay
elder wigeon
#

I haven't seen warrior mage in ages

graceful quarry
#

just because rmp is the best comp in the game

#

doesn't mean mage doesn't have any other comps at all

elder wigeon
#

warrior mage blows

#

tried it and have seen it a few times, was incredibly easy

fickle forge
#

Then how come Blizo takes it to R1 every season so far?

elder wigeon
#

oh wow one of the best warriors in the world just makes it work

#

probably with one of the best mages in the world

craggy socket
#

What comps are mages playing right now

sharp meteor
spice hornet
#

They are only playing rogue mage

sharp meteor
#

"it's not even the mage that's good it's the rogue i promise"

spice hornet
#

In my 2100 push last week onlt saw 2 rogue mages, one was nessper playing outlaw rogue rdruid

#

Was a nice week

graceful quarry
#

rogues say the exact opposite

#

"it's mages that are good rogue is just a cc bot"

sharp meteor
#

mhm

spice hornet
#

LMAO

sharp meteor
#

"DUDE actually it's just hpriest i swear"

craggy socket
#

You can check representation in all aspects of pvp and see there’s way less but w/e the mage hate us real

sharp meteor
#

shut

spice hornet
#

Then mages say “it’s cuz of sub rogue, mage is balanced without sub”

hasty crane
#

Just saw Mages are getting a 50% MS in Dragonflight lmao

graceful quarry
#

then you are free to be wrong

craggy socket
#

Bro warriors are the most represented spec in the game, again.

sharp meteor
#

Warrior isn't a spec.

graceful quarry
#

warriors are also the overall most played class in the game

#

cause guess what

#

dude with big stick is just generic enough

craggy socket
#

Like come on bro. I ain’t saying mages are bad I’m saying there’s hardly any comps that work when frost and arcane are utter dog shit

graceful quarry
#

as to where most people enjoy it

fickle forge
craggy socket
#

Not wrong prove it.

#

MLX…nope…Warrior mage…nope

sharp meteor
#

Wym prove it the specs can do just fine in various comps

elder wigeon
sharp meteor
#

But why play anything else when RMP is rmp

fickle forge
craggy socket
#

Because playing rmp sucks

fickle forge
#

Supposedly even worse comp

spice hornet
#

MM hurts so bad

elder wigeon
#

lmao

#

MM is actually really gross right now