Think of how good hardiness will be in draginflight
#pvp
spice hornet
Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once
full kiln
smart idea
remove racials in pvp
i also like current talents man
you pick what you need
very simple
steep inlet
Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of bei...
S1-S4 ?
Wtf u say
warped warren
XD
obsidian loom
lfg healer: "why would i take a fury warrior over an outlaw rogue"
hmm good question
sharp meteor
when u want games to end before the 8 minute mark because avg outlaw does no dam
wheat crane
Love it
Mop 2.0
Everything completely overpowered
Give arms execute like 600% dmg
Under 20%? Instant death
obsidian loom
It'll be a true disaster
raw summit
Execute now permanently kills your character you may revive by paying 20$ or make a new character
fickle forge
haHA
fickle forge
"Triple fearing this guy to get his ward off"
warped warren
cringe
wheat jay
See you in 10.1
11.0 lmao
lucid walrus
lfg healer: "why would i take a fury warrior over an outlaw rogue"
not having every game as a patience check
nimble jasper
when u want games to end before the 8 minute mark because avg outlaw does no dam
I don't get outlaw players that play cdr in 2s
absolutely cringe
full kiln
almost as cringe as arms players
fickle forge
almost as cringe as arms players
Post bench press, right now unsubbed fella
full kiln
wow is boring idk
fickle forge
Feel ya
fickle forge
True beta fury mindset
fickle forge
Just need speed and my katanas
wheat crane
Sounds like somthing someone with a poor bench would say
But no judge, keep lifting youll get there one day
full quiver
Wtf does less than 85 even mean
thick reef
iq prob
sharp meteor
Wtf does less than 85 even mean
Fury main.
thick reef
Whats best healer for ret warrior?
elder wigeon
rdruid
sharp meteor
rdruid
wheat jay
Rsham 
elder wigeon
rsham is alright for ret war
you get slammed into a locker if you q into another ret war though
thick reef
Im going to pick the right class wisely then
sharp meteor
ya get a mirror and they have superior healer your poor little shaman gets sent to the shadow realm
obsidian loom
you get slammed into a locker if you q into another ret war though
dont tease me with a good time
lucid walrus
rain wizard put down taser ghost log
fluid surge
Ret/War way better than Dk/War in 3s?
sharp meteor
Yes.
raw summit
Yep
old trail
kk
sharp meteor
Yes, although I think they're weighted equally which makes it like a 1 in 50 of a wep or something.
So realistically you just send a few crates over, hopefully cover as many slots as possible then get queuing and fill out the remaining ones. Use conq after that to buy ideal pieces then finally more boxes for another char.
lean burrow
should I press whirlwind to cleave if enemy team is stacked?
I noticed it did smol damage
maybe wwing only for slaughterhouse?
raw summit
Well wwing does cost you a global off of enraged raging blows
Ive seen blizo do it with hamstring
old trail
So realistically you just send a few crates over, hopefully cover as many slots ...
Pretty much what I did
Had an alt with 1800 conq that doesnt need it, snet over a few boxes. Got the helm that I wanted, so that saves me 700 conq
now to farm out 1800 more 😄
nimble jasper
spreading hamstring, that's some 200iq play
spreading hamstring slow is often the main reason to do it
similarly as arms you can sweeping strikes sharpen teams
sharp meteor
sweeping rend 🪓
nimble jasper
when you get
the double spear sweeping sharpen
i swear anytime you got that shit vs rsham melee in mordor mmr
there was like a 90% chance the sham links
within the next 5 secs
nimble jasper
tbh mordor mmr 2s is comfy
sweaty games of double dps living and running around for 5mins
lean burrow
btw, what's the point of spirit link totem?
it gets broken instantly
and works only within 10 yards
sharp meteor
it generally saves wym
lean burrow
seems weak for a 3 min spell
sharp meteor
unfortunate thing is that it ticks similar to tremor
sometimes can kill before it "ticks" and redistributes
have had a few bullshit wins as the rsham links and like almost a second later we kill his teammate
and it hadn't shifted health around
lean burrow
at most they get like 2 ticks and they all are low after that
I just see people talk about spirit link like it's a major cooldown
and I don't see what's so strong about it
simple rock
it is definitely one of the weakest big healer CDs but it saves people for sure
lean burrow
isn't it just 10% wall if nobody is close to totem
i should level shaman and see for myself i guess
sharp meteor
solo link is usually fatfinger or teammate dying first
indigo barn
Link was bis in BFA when spouting spirits was a thing
lucid walrus
isn't it just 10% wall if nobody is close to totem
it's good when someone's about dead and one or both of the other guys are still at decent hp
sharp meteor
i like 2s where rsham links and all it does is kill them both
nimble jasper
i died laughing a few times in season 2 on ww
cuz i'd just get the guy to link
then do a go on his dps instead
nimble jasper
i did a few pirate 2s last week
anytime i ran into rsham melee teams just sit on shaman with bladeflurry
link does a whole lot when you're both sub 20%
i think outlaw with bladeflurry up cleaves as hard as a dh
if not more
frank turret
The only thing better than getting glad as warrior, is getting your last win against rmp as warrior
nimble jasper
nah bladerush itself
doesnt do much dam
best to hold it as a gap closer
or hook to give someone the driveby kick
lucid walrus
ohh ok
gusty zinc
how big of a difference does orc actually make, noticed that like 90% of the top warriors are orcs
raw summit
Imagine fully sitting a 6 combo point kidney
Especially vs sub rogues it's a huge difference as they lose globals in their dance due to having to restun earlier
gusty zinc
point made
was gonna do human but
the idea of being fucked in a cyclone or some shit
just tilted me too much
thick reef
Especially vs sub rogues it's a huge difference as they lose globals in their da...
huge point
wheat crane
See how many rogues are played today
fickle forge
Hehe eksdee
wheat jay
Hehe eksdee
Easy to see which class people really prefer
Top 5, three classes offer good pvp racials
Or rather, super strong pvp racials
raw summit
Classes 
fickle forge
Easy to see which class people really prefer
Now let me just make it horde only for ya
nimble jasper
belf is prob pala
fickle forge
Actually, this is filtered for warrior
raw summit
Who are those non orc heathens
nimble jasper
weird way to spell nelf
fickle forge
But if you want all classes horde only
nimble jasper
meld is a cool racial ngl
fickle forge
All the undeads are the priest and the taurens are the druids
nimble jasper
lol is undead
wheat jay
Panda warrior is bis
nimble jasper
like half priests
raw summit
More
wheat jay
Best animations hands down
nimble jasper
yeah i mean
wheat jay
Its double win cuz you break people's mental
fickle forge
like half priests
Out of the 729 undeads, 661 of them are priests
wheat jay
@fickle forge remember our heal saying "we need to win this game, i'm not losing to fucking panda priest"?
nimble jasper
undead iqd rele priests
fickle forge
Except panda SP is BiS
fickle forge
Class distribution for taurens
wheat jay
I'll wait for sets in wowhead dressing room
dense vector
is fury still going to be the go to in s4?
sharp meteor
Now let me just make it horde only for ya
vulp master race
wheat jay
Dirty furry
steep inlet
In case you didn’t know guys
A lot of races are fucked on Ms and exec anims
I did some research
It came from my other post
TLDR :
- Only Tauren has the 2h special race animation on Mortal Strike, and the generic on slam
- Undead has their 2h special but ONLY on Slam (?) not on Mortal Strike or Execute. Same for the Dwarf, Blood elf and Orc
- Human and Gnome lost their 2h special animation everywhere
twin sinew
Are we still pressing crushing blow over Execute procs within Reck?
simple rock
no, execute is more dmg and rage gen
twin sinew
Got it, thanks!
frank turret
Are we still pressing crushing blow over Execute procs within Reck?
I get higher dmg out of crushing blow over sudden death procs
simple rock
doesn't execute literally always generate more rage and do more dmg?
twin sinew
i know before crushing got nerfed it was bad to press execute over crushing within reck
but now after nerf i'm not sure if that has changed
silver karma
Fury still > arms after the nerfs?
sharp meteor
Yeah, in general. Arms is still good in turb/retwarr, especially into certain matchups, and the higher you go the fewer people you're queuing into.
Both specs as either Kyrian or Necro are good.
silver karma
For 2s u‘d go fury or arms?
silver karma
but now after nerf i'm not sure if that has changed
That’s a good question
sharp meteor
For 2s u‘d go fury or arms?
Arms fares better into Rogues but Fury eats basically everything else.
It's kind of hard to not just play Fury because you sit there slamming out unreal damage with two buttons.
silver karma
😂
sharp meteor
Bloodrage is also such an amazing ability.
silver karma
Which pvp Talents u Generally go?
sharp meteor
It's hard to go wrong with Slaughterhouse/Enduring/Bloodrage, then swap out Enduring for Disarm into rm. Potentially bloodrage or enduring for trance.
Bloodrage is a lot of rage even if you aren't using it for the root break.
silver karma
Atm im mostly running trance slaughterhouse and disarm
sharp meteor
If it's a dampener then trace feels nice, not that it's a bad generalist pick.
silver karma
Swapping to enduring if I don’t need disarm
And to bloodrage against lot of roots
What’s trace 😂
sharp meteor
Er, trance.
I kind of want to play just Slaughterhouse/Bloodrage/Trance every game on an alt and see how that feels relative to Slaughterhouse/Enduring/x
lucid walrus
lol
lucid walrus
possibly the worst iteration of warrior yet this season
full quiver
Yeah I'm probably gonna let my sub expire in 7 days
elder wigeon
no
lucid walrus
no and it’s even worse if you just want arms’ cd
elder wigeon
arms hasn't had retaliation since cata
lucid walrus
just play arms at that point
lucid walrus
just wouldn’t expect a signature cd to be transplanted from one spec to another. play what u want
elder wigeon
dbts is better into melee obviously, but enraged regen is by far the best into wizards and rmp
lucid walrus
unpruning =/= doubling up on defensives when both specs have passable ones
elder wigeon
like what's an example of a spec specific defensive cd?
and not just a spec specific utility or offensive cd
lucid walrus
ER & die by for example
wheat jay
like what's an example of a spec specific defensive cd?
Def stance tbh
elder wigeon
no, I'm asking for a instance where another class is getting a shared defensive cd that is/was spec specific
lucid walrus
not spec specific if enh ele and rsham both had it
south birch
All DKs can spec into blinding sleet as well right?
raw summit
Ye
elder wigeon
that's utility man
south birch
True
south birch
I Kinda like that they are mixing it up a lot
elder wigeon
I don't think it's as good as vampiric embrace
and that cd isn't even that good lol it's pad numbers
if we're giving away dbts to fury, then I want recklessness
south birch
Like, if all Rogue specs get access to dance, then there's no limit to what could be in our tree ^^
lucid walrus
we’re at the point of fury being obnoxious and exhausting lol
elder wigeon
I don't want it to be shared for free, I want the shit that makes fury good in arms, IE excessive heals and ridiculous damage, I want recklessness and enraged regen if we're just giving what makes arms unique away
plus I hate how fury plays in pvp
so I'd prefer if it wasn't the best spec by a mile
raw summit
Arm fuck good
elder wigeon
I don't want fury to be bad, I don't want arms to be bad lmao I don't think you understand
elder wigeon
fury does everything arms does but much better right now
raw summit
Imo
elder wigeon
literal power creep on arms design
why does something have to be OP just because it was bad?
fury is op lmao
lucid walrus
if this is what it takes for fury to pull out ahead i’d rather it’s never good again
raw summit
Pvp should not be Zug Zug balls to the wall which fury incentivizes
It should be about clever use of damage
Yes fury is fun
But it's not healthy for the game in the long run
lucid walrus
fury has been and should’ve stayed a pve spec for a while now tbh
in what season?
i wonder why
elder wigeon
what's your experience harvest just curious
lucid walrus
it couldn’t be an oppressive 40% mortal and gross mongo pressure
steep inlet
BFA shit arms want to talk to you
With no interv bleed dmgs and execute hitting like shit
Arms wasn’t OP at all in BFA
lucid walrus
not reading all that. fury poopoo shit tho
steep inlet
Don’t say arms was OP for last 3 expansions when it wasn’t in BFA
Thx
?
You didn’t play BFA
It’s impossible
Arms and Warrior generally was shit especially in s4
I don’t need that, I played massively BFA
As arms
? I got 2400 as arms in BFA
full quiver
What's your bench @amber kernel
steep inlet
Do you really not understand what I say ?
BFA arms was shit tier and it’s commonly known here
it’s even still in logs
graceful quarry
really sums it up tbh
steep inlet
Clearly this guy is lost
sharp meteor
steep inlet
It was a bleed class without intervene, a noodle execute no ignore pain etc
graceful quarry
literally joined 40 min ago immediately starts spewing shit, did you lose to a warrior or something?
sharp meteor
You need to go back.
steep inlet
it’s not a circlejerk you a are inventing realities
full quiver
WHAT IS YOUR BENCH PRESS PR
steep inlet
You clearly don’t know BFA arms at all and you affirm things
sharp meteor
You're the unkempt homeless man that stumbled in here and started shouting about random stuff.
wheat crane
WE BENCHIN BOYS??
steep inlet
Because I played massively into it
wheat crane
Double plate warm ups lets rip
full quiver
You're the unkempt homeless man that stumbled in here and started shouting about...
LOL
steep inlet
I lived it
wheat crane
Also kyrian > necro get@me
elder wigeon
it's more rare that arms is god status than arms being trash in the meta across all ~30 seasons
graceful quarry
I heard cata arms was enjoyable tho 👀
elder wigeon
lol
graceful quarry
okay but fury shouldnt have dbts
sharp meteor
graceful quarry
the difference is what I say makes sense
giving an already well performing spec a really good def cd is a very omegalul take
elder wigeon
harvest how long have you been playing the game?
amber kernel
TBC, didn't play Classic and WoD
elder wigeon
tbc when it wasn't classic?
elder wigeon
and you've played every season since?
amber kernel
I don't remember if I played every single season, but aside from WoD which I didn't play I think I played 3/4 of them
steep inlet
🙂
sharp meteor
lean burrow
Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once
elder wigeon
big true
graceful quarry
yeah man buff rogue
sharp meteor
Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of bei...
He hated him because he spoke the truth.
raw summit
yeah
elder wigeon
also, you should be able to disarm bladestorm, disgusting warriors
elder wigeon
not what whaazz would like you to think
i mean rogues are soloing people while triple stunning the kill target
graceful quarry
rogues are clearly just more skilled if they can do that and you cant
elder wigeon
they won't do that
too busy nerfing d stance
wouldn't surprise me if they nerf arms again in season 4 lmao
wheat crane
Nm necro still incredible
fickle forge
Lmao this convo
lucid walrus
wouldn't surprise me if they nerf arms again in season 4 lmao
Warrior
Ignore Pain [Arms]
Rage cost increased to 60 (was 40.)
Absorb 60% of the next 10,000 damage received.
Cooldown increased to 15 seconds (was 12.)
elder wigeon
lmao
sharp meteor
lucid walrus
Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once
elder wigeon
yeah but everything has been buffed considerably since
raw summit
Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once
elder wigeon
and arms tier set is baaaaad
lucid walrus
i love how this pasta requires a crystal ball considering s4 isn’t out
fickle forge
Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once
lean burrow
i love how this pasta requires a crystal ball considering s4 isn’t out
that's about every expac
elder wigeon
not as good as the others that's the problem
sharp meteor
Others are just better and Arms kind of gets outscaled in terms of output.
It's hard to maximize its potential in arena settings.
elder wigeon
it's a good pve set but in pvp it's not good
lucid walrus
if any overpower extended the buff instead of specifically tac procs it’d be a good chunk better but probably not up to speed
raw summit
Give back dstance
lucid walrus
who’s up rn
thick reef
surprised people can consider arms set as not bad in pvp
nimble jasper
this is embarrassing
thick reef
considering its shit in pve lel
elder wigeon
i quit watching after kawhi won
lucid walrus
wew
i feel like kungarna would get rattled easily if they had a rough start but they’re mopping NA
lucid walrus
who was on rogue if not kalvish
raw summit
i feel like kungarna would get rattled easily if they had a rough start but they...
Is the ping a big factor?
lucid walrus
i can’t tell. doesn’t seem to be huge
only watched the last 2 matches of c9 v kungarna
nimble jasper
yeah drama behind scenes apparently
wheat crane
What nerds lmao
sage raptor
If any of you were playing as an orc fury warrior and got beat by an undead bdk in front of org and shit talked when you lost, just know, I'll do it again.
sage raptor
Ah crap
His name was something like Monkeymad.
Eh nevermind
They know who they are.
And what they did.
sage raptor
Gottem
gusty zinc
Hey looking for advice on the start of an arena match against stealthed hunters... they open with binding shot from stealth like 90% of the time, and that shits invisible until its been on the ground for at least a second. what do you guys like to do vs this
sharp meteor
Usually bloodrage it then leap into disarm, fear or bolt.
In the case of Arms you can just spin it if your healer is CC'd
gusty zinc
i thought bloodrage just gave u rage
oh holy shit its a root cleanse too
good to know
lucid walrus
you can have 3 root breaks pretty much. bloodrage and storm by default but pressing reck with signet gets you unstuck no matter what
gusty zinc
What are the go to pvp talents rn
And what would u swap with bloodrage
Id love to play arms but fury just feels stronger in almost all aspects
sharp meteor
I've just played Enduring + Bloodrage most games, sometimes swapping Bloodrage for Disarm or Trance. Warbringer is another option.
green agate
do we know if honor will roll over into S4? and if there will be an ilvl increase for pvp gear
spice hornet
Usually honor doesn’t reset
ember totem
Do we have to re-farm all our conquest gear again?😂😂😂😂
elder wigeon
yes pretty sure
silver karma
Do we have to re-farm all our conquest gear again?😂😂😂😂
But it’s so fast to farm
I equipped 3 chars in 1,5 weeks
Since there is no cap
fickle forge
do we know if honor will roll over into S4? and if there will be an ilvl increas...
Ilvl goes up, so we're on the early duelist grind again
green agate
Ilvl goes up, so we're on the early duelist grind again
ah okay thats fine, I am just making sure im not silly for trying to cap my honor on warrior thats 272 ilvl geared (1400-1599 bracket) as well as my out of date DK that I wanna try get back into
steep inlet
yeah razonko a lot of shit was said
fickle forge
Still high tier content
fickle forge
ah okay thats fine, I am just making sure im not silly for trying to cap my hono...
If it works like it did this season, then honor gear will bump you to ilvl 285 in the next season, but that means you'll sac all your honor for that
But then again, if 1400-1599 is where you spend most of your time during the season, you won't be needing too much honor for upgrades
elder wigeon
would be nice if there was just a questline to automatically update 291's to whatever
green agate
But then again, if 1400-1599 is where you spend most of your time during the sea...
I could push higher, just dont wanna pug it, going to try find a guild for an actual S4 push
scarlet barn
yeah razonko a lot of shit was said
I could have added it to skyhold archives
steep inlet
BFA arms was OP ! Roflcopter
warped warren
steep inlet
This guy clearly knew his subject
steel rune
most garbage melee in the game still glad
sharp meteor
Do we have to re-farm all our conquest gear again?😂😂😂😂
Presumably.
fickle forge
most garbage melee in the game still glad
Not the most garbage comp though
Congrats on the glad bro
ionic gazelle
Anyone test Battlelord Arms this season?
lucid walrus
it’s pretty rough
slender quiver
how much better is fury than arms this season? i just came back and see they gutted dstance and everyone is now fury
ionic gazelle
how much better is fury than arms this season? i just came back and see they gut...
tbh i rated arms dmg > fury after nerfs
but arms still paper
slender quiver
so theyre close? im just gearing up my warrior but i did notice arms does seem squishy its probably more my gear than anything but i can get nuked down through my defensives pretty easy
ionic gazelle
so theyre close? im just gearing up my warrior but i did notice arms does seem s...
rm around 2.3mmr ate me 100>0 in 0.9 sec as arms
ionic gazelle
so theyre close? im just gearing up my warrior but i did notice arms does seem s...
but if we r talkin about 2.1 - both specs are just fine
slender quiver
yeah i doubt ill try to push very hard until next xpack just coming back, i need to find people to play with again anyway
ionic gazelle
arms double spear feels like 97% win game kekw
fickle forge
how much better is fury than arms this season? i just came back and see they gut...
If you play turbo or ret+warr, you can do okay as arms
hidden heath
Is there anyway to hotswap bars in pvp when I go to sword n board using bartender or do warrs not do that anymore?
opal acorn
yo guys quick question, with new season coming next week, the pvp set is gonna be the same or a new one (if we know by now)?
hidden heath
It would prolly be a new one
spice hornet
when did xaryu become a caster? tf?
elder wigeon
that can't be true xaryu plays RMP, the highest skill cap comp in the game
simple rock
rmp - the most cerebral comp in wow arena
carmine spruce
what weapon do u use in pvp? (fury)
raw summit
2h mace
scarlet barn
Not the most garbage comp though
Congrats on the glad bro
Feels like he just wanted to make his achievement more important
sage raptor
A real ui
simple rock
kawhi got some gamers, imagine if they played a real esport
sage raptor
You're probably a virgin elvui user
sage raptor
Df default ui is caca
elder wigeon
rmplands
wheat jay
no, elvui is worse
Elvui bis for everything
elder wigeon
I wonder how rmp will get even better in season 4
seems that it's the trend in this expac, RMP just gets better every season
elder wigeon
RMP > NA
nimble jasper
it was pretty obvious outlaw rmp is best comp
elder wigeon
lol anti-rmp
nimble jasper
if played right
elder wigeon
I can win vs RMP as ret warrior? what does that mean
nimble jasper
NA rmp has this weird mindset
wheat jay
And queued that specifically into rmp
wheat jay
I can win vs RMP as ret warrior? what does that mean
You Play against shit rmps
wheat jay
As we all most of the time
Shit ret warr has higher chance to win since you just zug zug 24/7
wheat jay
Ye
nimble jasper
about perfect cross
wheat jay
Na rmps are trying to do some Perfect setup
To send combust
Win on mana
Win in damp
Meanwhile eu be like DMG GOES BRRRRR
elder wigeon
any time I beat RMP as ret war they just completely toss the game
like, you have to outplay every single go to make it to dampening lmao
scarlet barn
just kind of shows how bad
I will make it easier
wheat jay
Who
near delta
NA rmps are too
Does it? The only real RMP was without their healer for a day.
nimble jasper
yeah nuked wouldnt play
near delta
Yeah the others are all FOTM rerollers
I had heard something about some weird ass new pvp trinkets in S4. Has anymore info come out about that?
near delta
There is no s4
Sorry S(1-3) Redux
wheat jay
lucid walrus
season 3 demastered edition
near delta
hasty crane
Will fury still be more popular than Arms in season 4?
elder wigeon
holy shit lmfao
elder wigeon
Will fury still be more popular than Arms in season 4?
if arms doesn't get buffed absolutely
nimble jasper
nerf fury
nerf sub nerf outlaw
sometimes im convinced sin rogue is soft nerfed
by the fact how awful most of the people still playing it are
gilded flame
I had heard something about some weird ass new pvp trinkets in S4. Has anymore i...
Idk about new pvp trinkets but can't forget mechagon is back in s4, so mage bracers and bike trinket are a thing again 
nimble jasper
i mean thats only gonna matter if they remove the pvp trinket bonus
idk why people mention bike trinket when drest was 10x better
afffected by vers and off gcd+0 chance to just crash into a pillar
elder wigeon
near delta
Idk about new pvp trinkets but can't forget mechagon is back in s4, so mage brac...
I didn't play BFA but that sounds dumb lol
nimble jasper
its not as dumb as people think
bike is a severely overrated trinket that pikaboo used once or twice on 1500 players
and just looks funny but can crash into any pillar/mw statue/random pet
near delta
So no IQD
nimble jasper
yeah drest was better since its damage got buffed by vers+off global
technically you could run both but most people opted to play drest+battlemaster as melee
some rmxes play drest+spite
near delta
Everything I've heard about BFA sounds like a fever dream lol
Corruptions and all that
near delta
I played a few arena games like right before the prepatch
And this DH I was playing with just 1vs3d every fucking team it was absurd lol
nimble jasper
i remember beating an splay in opener
because the warlock decides to trade nothing
into vendetta smokebomb combust
actual idiot
well actually he decided to trinket at 15% to get instant recheaped on it
near delta
Was UR a thing back then?
nimble jasper
wall?
near delta
Ya
nimble jasper
yeah i played mostly rogue sp
so heres the funny thing
you cant wall while silenced
near delta
Oh lol
nimble jasper
won a few in opener cuz guy wouldnt trade his trinket
bomb also prevents locks from gating
cuz of the los caused
idk rmp is such a boring comp
rps was way more fun
only downside is you autolost to any dhdk that played manaburn
spice hornet
Oh god I forgot about manaburm
Not sure what I hate more, outlaw healer this season or bfa s4 9x gush DH in 2s just pve Your healer and mana burn him all game til you lose
near delta
Not sure what I hate more, outlaw healer this season or bfa s4 9x gush DH in 2s ...
So like they'd just remove a healers mana?
spice hornet
It was called manarift and it would put this thing on the ground and after like 2 sec if you were in it it would burn 8% of your mana or something
near delta
Holy fuck lol
spice hornet
So they’d just rotate their stuns and cage on it
Short CD
Sooo fucking stupid
2.5k DHs in 2s 1800 rated in 3s
Oh and blade dance made is so they dodged for like .5 seconds after every blade dance
near delta
Tf
spice hornet
2s for warrior that season was very unenjoyable because every game went to deep damp and you’d end up just losing anyway to any dh/dk/assass healer who were all wearing 9x gush and you couldn’t
near delta
I've heard warr was very bad in bfa but didn't know the specifics
spice hornet
You were a dot spec as arms it was not fun at all
simple rock
anyone else notice how rdruids that mostly play 2s are complete freaks
absolute spergs lol
spice hornet
Yeah they can get really toxic too
Just another set of people that I write off because they get 2.6k in 2s and then can’t break 2100 in 3s
nimble jasper
anyone else notice how rdruids that mostly play 2s are complete freaks
rdruids that play 2s with casters
spice hornet
By casters you mean arcane mage? 
obsidian loom
Week before season starts, no real details about s4
"honor resets" k thanks holinka
indigo barn
"RMP buffed"
indigo barn
Xaryu is the Karen of RMP's
lucid walrus
I've heard warr was very bad in bfa but didn't know the specifics
it was absurd in s1 but that was it
fury was actually quite good then too bc of bloodrage's precursor(?) that was basically it but better
it also just did stupid damage
simple rock
still super aids
at least you can hit something vs hpriest outlaw
rdruid outlaw you have no shot hitting anything unless youre kyrian
spice hornet
lmao I was watching some of the youtube videos in between the matches today where blizz interviews the AWC competitors, noticed Kalvish said this: https://youtu.be/QgNnDF3eWv4?t=85
was he memeing on whazz or what
thick reef
bro
me and him have so much conncetions LOL
im 16, i started wow at same age and in mop and i got into wow cuz of my parents
simple rock
yeah the counter to rmp is simply play better in every aspect
why didn't anyone think of that
spice hornet
who has teh whazz clip where he said the same thing
nimble jasper
@simple rock if you want my honest take
i also dont mind rdruids in 2s at much
since most of them tend to be dogshit
hpriest at least you can double serenity yourself out of being a complete moron
lucid walrus
2s-only rdruids are cryptids
simple rock
hpriest at least you can double serenity yourself out of being a complete moron
I rarely play 2s now but when I do it's like 2.3-2.5k mmr
so every druid knows how to kite and drink at every occasion somehwat
spice hornet
how to beat havoc as fury 1v1?
u dont
nimble jasper
so every druid knows how to kite and drink at every occasion somehwat
oh yeah
when i had to play dinoe in 2s
but kyrian hpriest also has the moments where you are essentially fighting double dps
in stuns
as the priest uses his boon on kidney go
near delta
lmao I was watching some of the youtube videos in between the matches today wher...
We were memeing on that one in here a while ago lol
nimble jasper
also
na is so bad at
sub hpriest 2s
good god
every time i run into that shit play sephuz and the rogue just mental booms
thick reef
who has teh whazz clip where he said the same thing
did he actully lmao?
kalvish seems like the Whazz of NA tbh
steep inlet
And the Whaaz of Mages is Xaryu
On delusional purpose
Twitter
« despite nerfs »
haha
And he is always asking for a stun on mages
wheat jay
Every other rmp is fair point, rest is not
steep inlet
wheat jay
Yep
You know a comp is broken when every team that never played it either rerolled to it, or devised some weird composition to counter specifically that one comp
green wyvern
xaryu takes 🤡
elder wigeon
xaryu is a happy fisher
fickle forge
RMP players ☕
wheat jay
RMP players ☕
raw summit
RMP players ☕
warped warren
RMP players ☕
rugged arrow
https://twitter.com/xaryu/status/1551353942910521346?s=21&t=112AuzZ4c_V6RKwSXyE6...
Xaryu is trolling with that tweet, right?
fickle forge
What if I told you that that's the same man who tweeted Gpie was fine in BFA and nobody was using it at higher ratings?
steep inlet
Xaryu is trolling with that tweet, right?
You didn’t hear his cast
He is 100% serious
And rm biaised
Xaryu ask for a stun for mages since years
warped warren
deepfreeze when? 
urban oar
that was me he tweeted at lol
spice hornet
What if I told you that that's the same man who tweeted Gpie was fine in BFA and...
I remember this
He’s so delusional but at this point I believe it’s intentional
Think he’s trying to profit off this game in any way he can before it truly dies
rugged arrow
I’m hoping solo shuffle will breath some new life into it
Hoping they can enforce the penalties on griefers/leavers enough
velvet grail
Anyone know an active rbg community? Dont need to be 2.5k elitist gang. But just someone that is active
gusty zinc
things can change can they not
new to wow kinda, not sure how long things take to change
sharp meteor
They only send balance changes every once and a while.
Doesn't mean stuff like outlaw, demo, kitty, dh/balance or whatever doesn't just pop up
Then you've got MM suddenly getting picked a lot
ionic gazelle
Any patch notes or predictions about 9.3 and next season ? Can’t find any official information pepeHands
gusty zinc
Any good resources to learn arms more proficiently? Such a chad spec but feels like paper
fickle forge
Any patch notes or predictions about 9.3 and next season ? Can’t find any offici...
There's no 9.3
9.2.5 and then we go straight to 10.0
fickle forge
Any good resources to learn arms more proficiently? Such a chad spec but feels l...
Check some of the NA warr streamers, they like to do ret+warr or turbo as arms there
wet scarab
I havent dabbled in 3s much this season but was playing with a DK friend and a MW last night and holy shit is it easy mode
arms chad enjoyer 4 lyfe only lost 1 melee cleave game the entire evening
I dont know how you guys play fury in 3s every time they were the prio target, which was basically every time, they died so quickly
spice hornet
god im praying they do some sort of tuning pass now that AWC is over
before s4
either there will be a tuning pass or theyll say "it was planned to be a whacky/experimental season so we aren't gonna change anything and see what the players do :^)
fickle forge
RMP players ☕
rapid shore
god im praying they do some sort of tuning pass now that AWC is over
maybe experiment like tier set disabled :D
spice hornet
that'd be a nice buff to arms
spice hornet
lol yeah
fickle forge
If tiers were RIP, then fury would be RIP
fickle forge
It's happened before
rapid shore
ye, that true
fickle forge
But frankly, I can't even remember when the last PvP tuning was
Lost to the winds of time
gusty zinc
saw an arms warrior running night fae and ravager absolutely 1 shot someone earlier today
shit was pretty neat
raw summit
old rextroy combo
gusty zinc
had never seen it
do you get 2 ravagers btw? looks like he had two. assuming its a lego
sharp meteor
Unhinged?
wary heart
ravager + trinket bomb + unhinged + spear = 2400
spice hornet
seems annoying to try to setup in this fast meta where everything easily gets out of spear and unhinged is unreliable AF due to pets and stuff everywhere
sharp meteor
Sounds like a dumb meme.
scarlet barn
iron basalt
do we know anything about the new leggos for next season?
fickle forge
its to proc the thing that shoots 2 mortal strikes
You only get 1 with Ravager though
raw summit
til
ionic gazelle
Stop stop stop set bonuses will gone in 9.2.5?
nimble jasper
this is 9.2.5
sharp meteor
Idk what'd give you that idea
as far as I know they've said nothing to suggest that
fickle forge
Unfortunately
sharp meteor
Conduits? Who knows. Tier? Probably no changes. Legendary item level? No news.
Week away from CR wipe and probably minimal balance changes
wheat crane
Hope its a gear reset at least
Like i got my toons honor capped and legendaries but theyre mostly in s2 duelist gear
Like full 226 that doesnt scale lol
Literally getting globaled in skirms
sharp meteor
there will be new nerfs/buffs wehn season 4 starts
Hope so.
lucid walrus
Hope its a gear reset at least
it will be
full kiln
new gear u mean?
sharp meteor
Yep.
sharp meteor
Nope.
wheat crane
For the new season specifically prob not
But i have some friends coming bwck just off DF hype
wet scarab
Ravager doesn't replace Bladestorm it replaces Dreadnaught, and it chases enemies and causes bleeds
doesn't stay in one spot like spear
at least thats how the arms one works I'm not sure about the prot version
lucid walrus
it replaces both
you have to talent it so you lose dreadnaught and it innately swaps out with bladestorm
wet scarab
ah ok I get what you mean now
it is a much smaller cd than bladestorm, 45 seconds I think
lucid walrus
yup
full quiver
I dumpstered a war other day using that lol
Had no fucking clue what he was doing
Never seen it before
lucid walrus
i played into a guy in bfa s4 in a mirror
he played ravager, pre-buff too so it didn’t have its weird underpowered tracking
anyway i go to armory him bc he just never died and the dude was running 60% vers
people have been trying weird tech like that
full quiver
Lol
wary heart
bet that holinka forgot to update pvp again and we get not only an mmr bug but no ilvl changes to gear and just reset conq
wary heart
until pve'ers come in with fated trash
but otherwise they should just beta test their template for DF since SL pvp is dogwater
nimble jasper
idk fury nerf where
wheat jay
Idk nerf everything
Buff mana
Make games last 12+min
Time for pvp to die
Time to end its suffering
sage raptor
And pve?
Fuck no
I'll quit before I have people answering all my questions with "jUsT SiM yOuRsElF"
How bout you sim yourself some bitches.
wheat jay
I mean
That's literally the same in pvp
You got for the highest dps build
Except there's a variable in the form of other players so you take that into account
Other than that you go for dps
wheat jay
Lmao tru
warped warren
I'll quit before I have people answering all my questions with "jUsT SiM yOuRsEl...
have you tried simming yourself?
nimble jasper
the worst
is sub rmp players
thinking they have a phd doing a 321
fuck it just send dam with a kidney
elder wigeon
Nerf sub damage and the rushed setup conduit by 50%, nerf rez Lego in pvp by 50% ie you heal yourself in the form for half of now
nimble jasper
@wheat jay i still remember legion arms dh gameplay
paintrain every game
dark arch opener
split someone in half the first minute
elder wigeon
You’d have to nerf blazing barrier by like 33% to make a dent in fire mages rn and most of the problem is alter time
nimble jasper
alot of people dont realize
how massive rushed setup is
in allowing sub to cc with no cost
i think its only 20% in df
spice hornet
Yeah rushed setup is busted
indigo barn
15 second cd on cheap
elder wigeon
nah just put a 4 second cd on cheapshot
you can get stunned twice in a go
it would make it so you couldn't kidney non kill target
indigo barn
Fair, but make it dodge able and parry able
sharp meteor
I somehow doubt they'll ever adjust that functionality.
elder wigeon
i mean they'll just step cheap you lol
wheat crane
How bout you sim yourself some bitches.
LOL
sharp meteor
Double step, step range (conduit), dismantle, duel, double dance, dance CDR
sharp meteor
Wishing they'd adjust any of these instead of some insignificant damage nerf
wheat crane
@elder wigeon excellent picture choice
elder wigeon
thank you
sage raptor
That's literally the same in pvp
I don't remember simming for pvp
spice hornet
Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once
wheat crane
Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once
thick reef
Being seen alot of warriors QQing about rouges when warr had s1-s4 slands of being king, let rouge shine for once
spice hornet
what does this rune mean
He’s wearing one of 262 jewelry pieces that has the heals effect I think
sharp meteor
That looks like the Jailer trinket that really sucks.
indigo barn
Isn't it blue?
Looks a lot like the argus toy that puts a drenei rune above your head
storm bay
as warr/dk/sham what is best against ele demo teams?
simple rock
it's a weapon enchant
not good for warr
it's good for ele in 2s with healer lol
that's the only relevant example I could think of
sharp meteor
not good for warr
Feels decent on Fury.
simple rock
hmm maybe in 2s if you're just fighting rogues all day
or other counters
wouldn't use it in 3s
warped warren
its more relevant in 3s 🤨