vanilla-discussion

[untold matrix]

I was right that rogue tanking would feel a bit easier haha, they do so much dps

[proud brook]

just got the 2h sword. damn it feels good

[frail drift]

if you're wearing a shield tanking as warrior in SoD, you aren't doing it right

[vocal umbra]

is 1.3 OH bis for dual wield in SoD? like even better than outlaw sabre?

[snow iris]

yeah true, very true. BFD is a joke, vent in there almost full green on my pally and it was just fine, we were quite a few who were there for the 1 time. And how far will these epic items last anyway when P2 goes live?

[snow iris]

maybe they pop a rage potion b4 pull?!

[ancient escarp]

Very possible, I was looking at consumables this morning to see if there's anything there

[snow iris]

only solution i think. 🙂

[soft kayak]

Cross dagger with 1.3 speed.
Best with + 3 str + 3 agi

Meteorshard to slow

[edgy pier]

Gonna try DW tanking

But devastate is so good

[summer carbon]

I'm glad they added devastate rune

[unique briar]

The fist weapon is 1.3 I think

[summer carbon]

1.4

Boot dagger is 1.3, caster is 1.2

[lament ridge]

Just keep à trash alive before pulling the boss war AA till there are full rage then nuke add Android start boss fight

[nocturne solstice]

What’s our 2h rotation? Just get to 80 rage, pop raging blow and spam quick strike?

[proud brook]

Pretty much.

[nocturne solstice]

Cool, thank you

[humble saddle]

do you need to apply sunders if you 2h tank?

and do you stay in battle or d stance?

[grave thicket]

You can sunder from any stance but you should probably sunder and def stance for threat

[edgy pier]

Yes and battle but be prepared to switch to taunt

[warped plank]

So I'm trying to figure something out in sod currently hamstring spam is clearly the meta for damage rn but I want to try doing something similar in defense stance does anybody know if rend or sunder can proc deepwounds like hamstring can

[summer carbon]

Hamstring spam is meta?

Missed that memo clearly

[warped plank]

it has to do with deepwounds and how it works in sod

its strange as hell

[summer carbon]

Hmm wonder if that also procs WF

[warped plank]

it does

[unique briar]

Ya they need to fix that

[lapis pumice]

Is there any good guide for SoD 2hander tanking ?

[edgy pier]

So HS not worth using while tanking right? Just spam hamstrung and devastate?

[summer carbon]

Same run: +str bow and HYDRA

Yezzzz

[frail drift]

That's how WF works in vanilla

[frail drift]

Rend/sunder can't crit, so they can't proc deep wounds

[split marten]

how big of a diff does human vs dwarf make?

[bright tartan]

whats the best build rn talent wise for 2h warrior

in SOD

[warped plank]

my issue is im not sure how well i will hold threat bc u cant hamstring in d stance but maybe sunder is enough to make up for it

[warped plank]

none

[warped plank]

talents are deep wounds and overpower for both dw and 2h

[split marten]

So human +5 weapon skill dosent help with tanking/dps?

[warped plank]

its very very minor technically dwarf is a little better for tanking and i think dps too but its negligable at best

im not an ally player but typically dwarf is the best race but again it really doesnt matter at all

[balmy geyser]

wasnt it that on lvl 60 you need 3% less hit if you have the human weaponskill?
idk how big the impact is on 25 ofc
but i remember that from classic

so if that is still the chase at least to abit
Human > dwarf

[frail drift]

Sunder will do more threat than hamstring, even not accounting for d-stance multiplier. Idr the exact value but I'm sure the sheet that had all threat coefficients is somewhere in Fight Club

[frail drift]

Yeah it's when mobs are 3 levels above you that wep skill has a massive impact. I've heard BFD bosses are coded as +2 levels over player so wep skill isn't imperative, but still better than what dwarf has.

[dark sundial]

flagge

nova

[warped plank]

yea ik it causes threat its just a matter of if its enough to stay in combat stance to tank raid ima try it tonight

[copper kayak]

Hey guys I am new to Warrior. Is this the best disc for SoD warriors?

[wooden yoke]

Just wondering, it seems like it'll cost around 15-18 gold for enough tubro shredders for warbringing, either buying them directly or the salvage kits. Is that really my only option?

[balmy geyser]

yes

[wooden yoke]

rough

[flint herald]

grab an alt and go farm up the ore

[tawdry reef]

Can we test rotations in sod or what is the best way to test builds

[undone bobcat]

is there a war discord only for sod?

[dawn matrix]

i go into stockades and hit things 😛

[frail drift]

no target dummies so running dungeons or killing mobs out in the world is really the only way 🫡

[tawdry reef]

Thanks guys

[rocky wedge]

Dwarf Level 1 starts with 25 STR, and 25 STAM but also 16 AGI.

They earn innate frost resistance by 10 point which will be useful in future raid, and may have increased chance of resisting Frost-based spells, especially frost-nova.

Stoneform cleanses Bleed, Poison, and Disease when utilized.

Human Level 1 starts with 23 STR, 20 AGI, 22 STAM.

They also have +5 Skill cap for Maces and Swords. Humans also have Human Spirit which increases spirit value by 5%, but it isn't useful for Warriors other than just regenerating health slightly faster. In addition, Perception treats the character as if they're suddenly 10 level higher when detecting for stealthed enemies like rogues. But that requires you to know where rogues are.

[tawdry reef]

Ah the only option I guess is fighting ashenvale boss and testing dps

[summer carbon]

That +5 weaponskill is pretty big

[untold matrix]

it's an extra level of weapon skill

[rocky wedge]

Also I know you didn't ask but

Gnome Level 1 starts with 18 STR, 21 STAM, and 23 Agility.

They have arcane resistance which doesn't have much value outside of very niche scenario. 15 more Engineering skills for Engineering Profession which is nice. Escape Artist allows a gnome to escape movement impairment, or immobilize with 1min CD

[untold matrix]

I use escape artist constantly on retail, I don't know if it's more useful in classic

[rocky wedge]

It is. Druids and Mages especially love using Entanglement root and Nova.

[untold matrix]

oh, I was thinking pve mostly.

Where you have entangling as a recurring thing

[rocky wedge]

Night Elves Level 1 have 25 Agility, 20 Strength, and 21 Stamina.

They have innate nature resist. They also have increased dodge chance by 1%. Their major move is to be able to enter stealth mode called Shadowmeld. Allowing them to mimic Rogue, but stationary. Allowing warriors to establish ambushes in PVP fight.

The Night Elf have mechanically weirdest and probably debated as worst, or best racial depending on who you ask.

[untold matrix]

classic shadowmeld is a bit meh since it's not usable in combat

[rocky wedge]

That's why I said ambushes

because it's for opening PVP fights, not escaping

[fossil ice]

Think human warrior is the play that weapon skill is so huge imo it’s unreal till 60 at least when more gear will have hit

[frail drift]

if you care about pve then you roll human on ally

if you don't care about pve AT ALL then you go gnome i guess

[summer carbon]

But in the end: choose the one whose ass you most like

[ancient rock]

mr smites hammer or killmaim as orc?

[summer carbon]

Killmaim

Enjoy the proc, it works with Blood Frenzy

[ancient rock]

ty

[summer carbon]

Also note about races: Blizz has mentioned they keep an eye out of the racial imbalances

And if I could make an nelf warrior as horde, I would

Ashenvale has already proven how fun that could be. And in P2, STV will be total vietnam where Shadowmeld will come very handy

[fervent niche]

hey all- is this a good place to talk SoD talents?

[unique briar]

I hope they leave stv alone, make the pvp like arathi

[summer carbon]

Oh they wont leave STV alon

[compact turtle]

So I just read all the messages from like the 12th to today.

Whats the recommended talents for sword/board tanking BFD then? Is it deep wounds or defiance?

Everyone seems to say different.

[azure musk]

I feel truly blessed

[willow umbra]

What’s this I’ve seen about hamstring use to proc deep wounds? Is this a DW thing? A tanking thing?

[compact turtle]

🥹 gz

[azure musk]

thank you I was still rocking a cruel barb until now

[tardy lily]

With 2hand you have quick strike, so no need to use Harmstring. For tanking you spam devastate. Big rage, big dmg and Harmstring is not a defense talent. So yes it’s only a DW Thing for going under 80 rage, but normally you use HS Queing.

[willow umbra]

Thanks

[flint herald]

one of us, one of us.

[sour sail]

Hey lads, is there a sod discord for warrior?

[slender scarab]

For weapons as a human, is an axe better or should I have sword/mace cause of 5 extra skill cap?

[safe sandal]

The best weapon you have is usually best but if it’s between 2 close items sword prob better

[charred zealot]

hey guys sorry if its been asked before but is duel wielding the way to go at 25? (or at 20?) or is it close with 2H too not matter which way i go?

[slender scarab]

yes

[summer carbon]

You better go with the weapons you have

[neon spade]

theres a bit of a difference with epic 2 hander

but u can generally play what u like best

[charred zealot]

Awesome cheers

[rapid pike]

I started spamming Hamstring and my DPS went up to like 165 DW in BFD last night.. kinda insane.. lol

Wasnt using the Hamstring Deep Wounds method before that

[summer carbon]

What weapon and what spec?

And did you have a feral

[rapid pike]

Had a feral. No hunter. I was the recommended spec. Had the quest BFD main hand and the dagger (not spell caster one) from last boss

Almost fill BIS just missing trinket and necklace really

[summer carbon]

Yeah that sounds about right then :D

DW, feral and Talwar makes the spec pop out

[rapid pike]

Yea it was strong

[chrome gale]

For folks who didn't lvl eng, how much are you paying for the auto salvagers? Looks like about 50s a pop for 1 or 7g for 15 of them.

Wondering if I should just drop herb or alchemy and sink that money into eng, but I like the witcher vibe of making my own potions

[muted oasis]

I heard there was useful information in the warrior discord at fight club for SOD but don't have access to view it. Can anyone help me out there?

[safe sandal]

Just do some quests

[chrome gale]

Aye that's what I settled on - realized I'm not spending it on anything else haha xD

[charred zealot]

same here

[fossil ice]

Just got the epic 2hander last night can’t wait for reset tomorrow.. on the few fights I had using smites hammer I was pushing 130-220 can’t wait to see tomorrow boys hahah

[outer kraken]

Hey as Fury. Currently using Cruel Barb Mainhand and Butchers cleaver OH.

Now i got the Dagger from BFD last boss (Vampiric Boot Knife) is that better then Buthers cleaver for OH since 1.3 speed?

[summer carbon]

Yes

[rapid walrus]

What is the meta tanking spec for bfd? 2h/dual wield/sword&board?

[summer carbon]

Sword and board, slow mainhand, press sunder

Devastate goes brrrr

[rapid walrus]

Arms talents into deep wounds I imagine

What other runes?

[summer carbon]

Yeah. You can maintank easily with same spec as you do 2h dps

[rapid walrus]

Do you even use shield block while tanking?

Or just spam devastate

[summer carbon]

Warbringer or Flagellation. Legs is whatever, go with Consumed By Rage

[summer carbon]

If were talking about meta and have healers up doing their best, noot really

[rapid walrus]

Okay, I thought as much tbh, I'll give it a go soon

[azure elk]

is there any good guides out there for SoD other than wowhead?

[proud brook]

what runes do you guys run for pvp with 2h purple

[magic helm]

Can someone explain how the new warrior build works?

[charred zealot]

What’s up with the fight club discord

I heard there heaps of info there but I don’t have access to anything

[silent oriole]

you talkin' about 3/3 deep wounds?

[magic helm]

yessir

@silent oriole

[silent oriole]

you need an uber fast oh dagger - 1.3 (cross daggers are boe on ah)
the oh swings a shitload and procs op/deepwounds - deep wounds snapshots your MH wep dmg (so you want a high top-end mh) and the dot works off that.
the faster the oh, the more deep wounds, the more dps

[tardy lily]

Y, i think akumai dagger is the best, because of 1,3 ratio.

[silent oriole]

nah, there's a 1.2

from kelris

and jett actually

[magic helm]

Ahh

that's pretty much it? other than that its the same rotation and all that?

[silent oriole]

yes

[magic helm]

does gusting wind count as a good OH for that?

[wooden yoke]

Can I export to guybrush from in-game, or do i have to hand select my gear

[pulsar rampart]

No, you use Hamstring as your rage spender to do the 80 rage dance

To fish for more deepwounds

[sonic linden]

Okey, having a discussion with a warrior in my guild on SoD, he says agility gives 1 AP for warriors, while i kept saying agility only gives Crit for warriors, he says that the meele AP is hidden. Is this true? Who is right?

[summer carbon]

He is incorrect

[sonic linden]

thank you ❤️

[stone jay]

is Coral Reef Axe better then Ancient War Sword?

[edgy pier]

Yes

[stone jay]

cheers, was confused because of the stat difference

[edgy pier]

What do we think, fathomblade or outlaw Sabre + boot knife?

[tardy lily]

Phantomblade

[analog nexus]

Outlaw + Bootknife

[crimson path]

Is DW still overall highest dmg in SoD? Also, i remember being told that a slow main hand wep was good at max level due to instant attacks. but does that matter when you only using heroic strike?

[summer carbon]

It does

Windfury

[crimson path]

@summer carbon is bis DW better than even the epic 2 gander? WF makes sense… let’s hypothetically say I don’t have wf/ws in my raid, is attack speed then meaningless on my main hand? And flat dps more important?

[summer carbon]

Not sure. Afaik epic 2h pulls better numbers but not that much and if you have bis DW weapons, you'll hit like a truck anyway

And I guess you still end up using raging blow as DW

[tardy lily]

Witch Chest (Set or Epic Blacksmith) do you think is BIS for Farming/and Solo-Open PvP? I mean DPS PvE is simple - Set is the best and for a Tank its the Epic Blacksmith Chest. But what do you think is the best for Farming? +2 Dmg Curse or more Agility and Stamina/Def Rating? Or other question. How good is the curse in Strengh?

[compact totem]

the curse in str is around 4 str for 2h or 6/10 str for dw without armor

[tardy lily]

ok thanks, then i preffer epic bs chest.

[compact totem]

Tbf it depends on the weaponspeed and since im playing 2h i cant make an estimated guess for what in between the 6/10 value would be the most reasonable

[austere kraken]

Looking for help in where and how to start the quest chain to get the Ancient war sword reward wetlands SOD, the quest is to defeat nekrosh, but i am having a hard time finding it on goodle.

[lavish blade]

So Raging blow is the way to go even tho we can only use in during Bloodrage?

Or am I missing something?

[summer carbon]

Missing

Consumed By Rage also enrages you

So you hover between 79-80 rage

[lavish blade]

Aaah, thanks

[stone jay]

start with this

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=473/report-to-captain-stoutfist

[austere kraken]

i got er! ty

[stone jay]

don't mention it

[magic helm]

Is there a youtube video or something I can watch about it?

[pulsar rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsU1EWlCTMg

this explains it

[still berry]

You guys think Sun-Touched Crescent is better than a Tiger Cross Dagger or Sentinel Blade for OH?
Sentinel slightly more dps and has Agility but slower (1.70), Crescent is 1.20

[pulsar rampart]

1.20 better

[pulsar rampart]

But DW and 2H are so equal atm, if you want to spam Hamstring or Quick strike at 80 rage is up to you

DW pulls ahead on some bosses, 2H pulls ahead on others

[brisk wadi]

Is 2h only taking one point in overpower and 2 for cruelty?

Or is that only dw

[solar zephyr]

Crescent Staff or Smite Hammer?

[modern harness]

o is 2h trash in pve then?

[summer carbon]

No

[late pecan]

So I got the epic 2h today, and I was already using the darkwater talwar/ritual dagger, and after swapping to the 2h, i can't help but feel like i'm doing much LESS dps. Am I doing something wrong or am I too used to seeing numbers pop up really fast

[pulsar rampart]

Im guessiing u swapped to Quick Strike?

Also are you starting fights with build up rage, do you use rage pots?

Do you spend half the fight putting up 5x sunder armor?

[silent oriole]

wonder what it takes for blizz to fix the premade bullshit

fucking joke x 1,000

[summer carbon]

Its on their to-do list after fixing the bot epidemic

[silent oriole]

believe when i see it~

[quaint wharf]

I remember reading a post that Devastate crits don't proc deep wounds. Is that still a thing?

[summer carbon]

You dont get pants from that quest. Staff or sword

[stone jay]

oh im being an idiot. sorry thought he meant staff of westfall lmao

[slender thunder]

no one would be able to tell you if you're doing something wrong based on only this info x.x

[slender thunder]

but realistically, the two should be very, very close in dps, so you are most likely doing something wrong

[summer carbon]

Both styles have their own quirks in playing them

And you need to know them to perform the best

Also did WC today with feral, 3 warriors with deadly hydras and a healer

Absolute 24/7 pulling and the mobs died like they werent even elites lol

Charged to a druid, blinked and it was on 30% health :D

[left zephyr]

I don't really like CBR, is frenzied assault viable?

[cinder berry]

i have the adamantine tortoise armor off ghamoo-ra but also shining silver and the set piece chest. is there EVER a situation where i would want the extra stam and armor over the str?

or even the shimmering shoulderpads he also drops? just seem not all that useful compared to other options

[summer carbon]

Maintanking

[silent oriole]

is there an axe that beats out outlaw sabre for orcs, or is that the way?

[summer carbon]

Sadly not really

[silent oriole]

was eyeballing headsplitter or bearded boneaxe, but wasn't sure

[summer carbon]

Yeah sadly one is too low level and other is too fast for a mainhand (and loses hard against Talwar)

[silent oriole]

well, there went all my rp fun :p

[zenith tiger]

If there is no priest with homs in raid. Is it best just to pump 5 sunders asap? Without thinking about "Consumed by Rage" rune?

[austere hearth]

I’m running two fast daggers as my weapons for dual wield in sod, how much better would my dps be with a slow main hand?

even if the dps on the slow weapon is way worse

it’s like a difference 19 dps vs 23

someone told me to switch to slow main hand to make my dps better but if the dps is so much worse I don’t understand how it would be better

[tardy lily]

because raging blow and overpower are instant Spells with Mainhand and dont care the auto weapon swing time. So Max Dmg in Mainhand is big important.

[austere hearth]

Isn’t heroic strike most of the damage on bosses

@tardy lily

[summer carbon]

Its autoattacks

But also autoattack procs from WF

[austere hearth]

so you think a slower main hand with 19 dps is going to out damage a fast one with 23?

[summer carbon]

Its not about dps, its about damage

And if the names of those weapons are outlaw sabre and chipped bite of serrakis, yes

[austere hearth]

yeah i had two chipped serrakis

switched the off hand to the faster vampiric that drops from aku mai

need a new main hand to replace serrakis

[summer carbon]

Outlaw sabre will do fine

[austere hearth]

Think I vendored it because I thought serrakis was better (dps was higher)

i’m not a regular wow player

didn’t know intricacies

[summer carbon]

Well use serrakis then till you get talwar

[austere hearth]

i’m almost exalted on war song, legionnaires blade seems decent?

it’s pretty identical to outlaws

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=212586/legionnaires-sword

I also have the epic sword from aku mai but my dps is way worse on it compared to dual wield

[summer carbon]

Then you have something wrong with your playstyle

[austere hearth]

isn’t it just build 80+ rage, quick strike to bring it <80, raging blow and overpower when available?

keep enrage up 24/7

[summer carbon]

Basically yeah

[austere hearth]

didn’t seem that complicated

that’s what i do

[tardy lily]

do you have a feral in group?

[austere hearth]

i don’t think i did when i tested 2H

i think ours was out

so i went back to 1H as it was pumping way more

maybe i’ll give it another go next guild run

if we have our feral

[summer carbon]

Yeah feral makes a huge difference with 2h

More damage from WF but also more rage generation which means more WF procs which means more rage etc

[austere hearth]

yeah I was rage starved without the feral

it felt awful

[untold matrix]

what leads to more crits, 2 points in Cruelty, or 2 points into Improved Overpower

[austere hearth]

2 into overpower is better from what I’ve seen

[untold matrix]

really? Interesting

[austere hearth]

yeah

15-1 talents

[untold matrix]

that 1 you gotta respec out of next phase cause mortal strike haha

[tardy lily]

2points OP=2,5 crit overall at bosses. Trash and Low Mops Cruelty is better. PvP OP is better vs Melees (Rog, Warri, Feral, Hunt). Cruelty is better vs Caster.

[left cedar]

Is it worth using sunder armor if bosses die so quick in BFD and there's no other warrior?

[summer carbon]

Depends how many other physical classes there are present

[magic cliff]

Seen a few different guides saying different things. For dual wield, which hand rune? Quick Strike / SMF / Endless Rage?

[summer carbon]

If any guide says QS is good for dualwield, discard all the advice it gives

it only works with 2h

But the answer is SMF

[solar zephyr]

Does the BFD Sharpstone do anything for 2h warr if there is WS in group?

I've heard of dualwield using for offhand but not mainhand right?

[silent oriole]

if you have ws in grp, you don't want a stone on your 2h

if you're dw with ws in grp, you only stone oh

[tardy lily]

It depends of lineup. I would always pool Rage on 80, then quick strike or Sunders for Rage dumping. Quick strike give you Windfury Procs and Deep Wound. Sunders makes the Hits for every Melee much stronger. Long Fights with some Melee without Feral = Sunders are strong. Where is Cutover? Nobody know. You must feel it on your own. Actual the Meta is very Melee oriented. So just do it.

[versed bloom]

Is Gusting Wind (1.4) a viable offhand for SMF? Or is it too slow?

[tardy lily]

ofc. you want a super fast offhand. I preffer dagger.

[vapid needle]

for dual wield DW builds do you rend at all or just Heroic Strike and Mocking Blow

[subtle flume]

What runes should I be using when leveling? I did an rfc and was constantly on the lower end of the dps

[dawn matrix]

hamstring for deep wounds?

[summer carbon]

Ragedump with HS or if you have feral, hamstring. Dont you mocking blow if you can avoid it

[left zephyr]

so i dont like the consumed by rage build, which other runes do ppl play with?

[summer carbon]

If you wanna be useful, Devastate kek

[left zephyr]

haha no ty

[summer carbon]

Guess you could do blood frenzy but its less damage

[left zephyr]

ok 🙂

[summer carbon]

Extra instant attack + constant 20% more damage is just too good currently

[tardy lily]

For 2-Hand-Only: Frenzied Assault and Flagellation is a super alternative and is much better for solo questing / farming / dungeons, when you won't get 80 Rage. For BFD Bosses you use normaly Rage Pot and Consumed by Rage and Raging Blow are amazing and there is not an alternative to be honest.

[left zephyr]

ok ill try getting used to it 🙂

as for dual wield, faster atk speed on main or more dmg?

Cus I have this:

and

wtf i cant print screen xD

Anyway its https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=209525/honed-darkwater-talwar

[fathom cypress]

talwar is bis

[left zephyr]

oh then!

guessing dagger off hand?

[fathom cypress]

yes as fast as possible

[dawn matrix]

is what im using

[verbal zodiac]

just got that dagger today too

was using Serrakis before

[still berry]

You guys think DW will surpass 2h next phase?

I hate the 2h playstyle tbh

[compact turtle]

So for Devastate tanking, when I go below 80 rage, do I just wait till I'm above it again (using Raging blow off cd) before using devastate? Feels kind of bad missing a globals like that but I don't see how else to maintain Consumed By Rage?

[untold python]

Hey boys im new and i heard about this dagger the ritual one is it better than the vampiric?

[solar zephyr]

I'm here to ask the same question. I feel it is better because 1.2 attk speed but at the same time for only .1 attk speed you get a chance to proc 10dmg leech and do 4dmg more per swing.

[vapid needle]

so between 1.8s 18.3dps and 35 fire damage (meteor shard) and a green 1.5 10 dps

i should take the 1.8s swing dagger right?

[magic cliff]

Just won ritual dagger and boy oh boy did it cause problems

[edgy pier]

Pls don’t roll on it vs casters or shaman for example who make bettter use of it

Go for the boot knife

[tardy lily]

both are super close. 0,1 is not much and the other weapon have more dmg .

[runic quail]

I have questions about deep wounds

• If I have a slow strong main hand and i crit with a fast offhand, what does "your melee weapon's average damage" mean when calculating the dot?
• if I crit with my main hand and 4 seconds later crit with my offhand and refresh the duration what damage is added if any?

[untold python]

got it cuz nobody wants it lol

[edgy pier]

just got the epic sword and crabshell waders

https://tenor.com/view/feels-good-man-nicolas-cage-gif-5444501

[ashen sun]

i dont actually like raging blow with the prot build

imo flaggelation is just better, gives you more damage = more rage = more devastate and heroic strike spam

cranking like 170+ dps on some bosses using that

could be higher with a 11/5/0 tree instead of the 0/5/11 tree ive been using

using outlaw sabre, (got the talwar lets fucking go), pretty much am full bis except for 3 minor upgrades

[errant quail]

For phase 2, is Raging Berserker actually an upgrade over BFD loot?

[summer carbon]

No

You cant enter SM

Its gonna be lvl50 raid

[untold matrix]

Has anyone killed doan to test? I know people have killed Loksey

[errant quail]

Ty!

[tardy lily]

100% People will do SM with lvl 40 and yes the Berserker Helm is better.

[left zephyr]

Has anyone tried a single minded fury build without CBR and raging blow?

Wait I'm dumb there isn't a leg option 😄

Furious thunder haha

[half frost]

Guys Tauren or Orc 🤔 can’t decide

[grand rain]

Iirc deep wounds stacks in vanilla

[summer carbon]

Tauren is big, orc is green. Tauren gets warstomp, orc gets hate from healers. Tauren says moo.

Also orcs get weaponskill but blizz is aware what problems racial weaponskills caused in classic (making orcs and humans best pve race by far) and are willing to adress it

[tough wing]

Is dual wield even viable right now? Or should I just be running 2h at this point

In sod that is

[neon spade]

yer its fine

like anythings fine we are lvl 25

[vocal hull]

Dual wield is strong. From what I've heard/read 2H is stronger with the epic sword by like 3%

[neon spade]

is 2hander slightly better in the end, yes

does it matter? no

ppl have cleared the raid in 14 mins

u can run what u want

[vocal hull]

I'd say just from a feeling: epic 2h > Talwar + fast OH > Fathomblade > two random 1hs

[neon spade]

nah im beat ppl with talwar and fast OH with fathom but eh idont play with serious ppl

nor do i play the game seriously ither

[tough wing]

What are the best runes to run?

[neon spade]

for what?

[tough wing]

Just dps warrior in general

Raging blow obviously

Single minded fury or quick strike depending on your weapon I assume

And what else?

[neon spade]

cbr

[unique briar]

Should have made devastate not require a shield

[summer carbon]

Lmao 2h tanking then

100% weapon damage on cooldown, its warrior tank dps meta

[alpine pendant]

Why can’t I make it past level 10 on SoD Warrior.

[frosty haven]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[runic quail]

What does this mean in context of my questions, sorry? Which damage is added and how is it stacking? Tried to find an explanation somewhere for the mechanics of the talent

[grand rain]

It seems like deep wounds does not roll

That means that each crit that procs deep wounds will reset the buff timer and do the appropriate amount of damage based off the weapon that dealt the crit

[stray radish]

I just finished leveling my SoD warrior alt. I normally main a lock. any resources to prep for bfd?

[edgy pier]

do the brutal quest line

[dawn matrix]

Taking obvious caster items so you can feel meta is not the way.

[errant quail]

Go to 3:19, you should have a good overview from both orc and tauren players: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JY-feSSQQ8&t=13797s

[stray radish]

Thank you

[magic cliff]

I didn’t, no one wanted it but my rolling on it (IT HAS CASTER STATS) was bitched about anyway

[summer carbon]

its shitty caster dagger anyway

Theres one from akumai that has way more +spelldamage

You can call any caster bitching bout that a moron

[edgy pier]

It’s a shammy tank dagger

Not caster

[summer carbon]

Fight me

You use the weird fast MH mace

[slender scarab]

Is it just me or does quickstike seem dogshit for 20 rage? Keep in mind i’m level 19 😅

[fringe pawn]

quick strike is op

[slender scarab]

Shit is getting for like 20-30 😂

[summer carbon]

Its HS

And you use it with imp hs

[slender scarab]

Yeah i got imp HS 2/3

[fringe pawn]

its an extra attack that can proc windfury but is also very good with the consumed by rage rune

[slender scarab]

Yeah actually getting CBR now.

[fringe pawn]

Quick strike, Raging blow and consumed just work so well together.

[slender scarab]

And raging blow. Just need to find someone to let me jump in their party after they clear sfk

[runic quail]

Im a little confused about the heroic strike with offhand thing. I have a swing timer but it seems like it waits for my main hand swing to go off. So what exactly does this do

[desert garnet]

BiS has changed on the wowhead guide, going BS chest instead of LW gloves. Also running 2 set instead of 3 with gelihast gloves. This legit? 😄

[runic quail]

IDK. is there an explanation for how they came up with it? (there never is)

[desert garnet]

nah, i dont see any change notes either

[runic quail]

While there is an epic crafted chest, it falls behind the Set chest, as without it we not only cannot use the superior crafted gloves, but must resort to losing our set bonus, which provides us with much needed hit chance.```

Which is weird considering the gloves give hit

and you can get more hit if you use LW...

[desert garnet]

yeah so it seems that the bottom part where it explains each piece and other good pieces hasn't been updated

but the top part has changed

[summer carbon]

The difference isnt that big and doesnt matter at lvl25

[weary mauve]

You’re better off just going set + engineer for pure DPS anyways

[dark swift]

Best talents for dual wield fury?

[slender scarab]

What’s the move for dps? I’m 18 got just about all the runes besides single minded and flag. Got smites hammer right now.

Trying to decide if i go 13/3/0 or 15/1/0

Right now using raging blow, quick strike, cbr.

[slender scarab]

And how do you guys start fights off to make sure you get cbr buff? I’m guessing charge then pop enrage raging blow and then just wait until you hit 80 rage?

[summer carbon]

That + rage potion

[slender scarab]

Okay thanks. Now do you know which spec would be better 15/1/0 or 13/3/0

And are any of the weapons option far above the other. DW or 2H

Feel like 15/1/0 too situational since you’re hoping OP procs from dodges. Feel like the 3% crit is more helpful overall

[summer carbon]

Its more or less sidegrade to take 2/2 OP or more crit

And I prebis you are more or less on the same line with smites hammer (or killmaim as orc) vs DW with welfare sword from Aquanis + fast offhand (lvl25 green dagger)

[slender scarab]

I’ve saw 10/5/0 too but feel like deep wounds would be better

[summer carbon]

Yeah deepwounds is better

I'm a chad that plays 16/0/0 because big number make brain go brr

[fringe pawn]

I have all my talents into arms, i don't like changing talents so I tried to make a build to work for raid dungeon open world and pvp.

[slender scarab]

What big numbers does the extra arms point give?

[summer carbon]

+10% crit damage on yellow attacks

[fringe pawn]

[slender scarab]

Yeah i just want to get raid geared and then PvP, PvP is always my main focus

[summer carbon]

But 700 HS crits really make it up for it

[slender scarab]

Ahh okay might try that i like big numbers too.

[summer carbon]

Get Warbringer then asap

[fringe pawn]

warbringer is a must for pvp for sure

[slender scarab]

Get a hard on when envenom crits first 1k+

[summer carbon]

Warriors are basically worst pvp class curently and without warbringer you are like npc to others

[slender scarab]

Yeah 100p

Yeah warriors shine later game

[summer carbon]

Once a rogue clowned on me without even touching me once

But with warbringer if you catch a hunter (without him first nuking half of your health), they are in trouble

[slender scarab]

Lmao quickshot the whole time?

[fringe pawn]

pvp this phase is pretty scuffed

[summer carbon]

But you also need a real weapon from BFD. Sword, axe or the sword

[fringe pawn]

but even then some fatty overpower crits are still satisfying

[slender scarab]

Yeah that’s why i made a 2h class. The bfd 2h’s look fun

[fringe pawn]

Yeah i'm going to pve as 2h now that its actually viable

[slender scarab]

Yeah on my rogues last bfd a warrior actually almost beat me in dps he was going crazy. Although he was all potted up and i had nothing besides regular buffs. But it looked fun

[fringe pawn]

warrior is top damage almost every fight rn

😎 the way it should be 😎

[slender scarab]

Yeah they’ve definitely been creeping up i’m noticing.

[summer carbon]

🐢

Fucking infinite armored reptilian

[fringe pawn]

turtle boss too powerful

[summer carbon]

Gelihast is almost always the boss where I top the damage first time

[fringe pawn]

Not the naga boss?

[summer carbon]

Since the stupid blue shit is immune to yes, tutel is immune to warriors, lady whatever is running away and/or behind a voidzone

[fringe pawn]

i usually just retal tank the elite on top of lady and cleave spam

insane dps

[summer carbon]

For some reason I havent seen any offtank ever do that

[fringe pawn]

you be the off tank

if u wanna parse that fight

[summer carbon]

Thou thats cheating on meters lol

[fringe pawn]

no still shows as dps

[summer carbon]

Yeah but most of yours didnt matter :D

I dont even look at dps during the raid

[fringe pawn]

466 dps

[slender scarab]

Damn wtf i hit a little over 200 on my rogue and thought i was the shit 😂

Unless i get them 1k+ envenom crits that boosts my dps insane amount.

[tardy lily]

A full geared warrior can make in open PvP a shit solo. Every other class win 1by1. Sooo sick. Hopefully next phase it will be better. You need always a feral for windfury and a privat healer/dispeller. Then you are a killer Maschine. But without? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[frail tartan]

Hey guys is this the discord to talk about warrior stuff in sod?

[slender scarab]

Yeah this is sod chat

[placid cloak]

Hello all! Any good guides on dps rotations for warriors for sod? I can’t seem to hit 80/90 and I have decent gear on my warrior…. I hover above the 50 mark

[neon spade]

get hit by mobs

👍

[lethal bobcat]

Use rage potions

[late loom]

when you're the only warrior and you reap all the benefits

[summer carbon]

I'm only warrior today in our raid and hope to see the same :D

Although theres a rogue and I have the epic 2h

[ebon wind]

Guys what weapons for dw if dont have naga sword?

[fringe grove]

whats the bis hands? would algae gauntlets be better than void touched gloves?

[summer carbon]

Voids are best by far

But if you arent using LW, algae are best

[runic quail]

Is it better to go 13/3 full deep wounds 3 cruelty or am i better going 15/1 for imp overpower

[tardy lily]

It depends. Level of the mops and dodge raiting from players. For Bosses OP>Cruelty.

[lean tree]

so for tank warrior after i get warbringer is full prot best aoe threat for dungeons are is it still arms. The wowhead guide said full prot but i want other opinions

[summer carbon]

Wowhead guides are shite

You do it in same spec as you play dps

[fringe pawn]

best dungeon tanking build is battle stance 2h arms and hold aggro by being top damage

also works in raid

[tardy lily]

13-3 is perfect for tank. 15-1 for DPS. I like warbringer, devastate and thunder runes for tank. The damage is very good with devastate spam and all melee will be happy.

[chrome gale]

dps build - trying to decide between Juggernaut Leggings (10 strength) or Hulking Leggings (8 strength 3 agi)

basically is 2 strength better than 3 agi?

w/o legs equipped I have 65 agi and 126 strength

[chrome gale]

I actually also have a 7 strength 4 agi option as well xD

[lean tree]

thank you. can you link a talent tree

[slender scarab]

This is what i’m going with either 1 into impale or 1 into crit.

[regal citrus]

my DPS kinda sucks, what am I doing wrong? spec'd into arms but see Icy Veins has DPS warr spec'd into fury. Can someone link a proper spec?

[ebon wind]

Arms better

[echo plaza]

Heyo !

Just watched a guide that says that I should ignore heroic strike and just sunder armor.
Is this true? It feels quite strange.

[tardy lily]

Heroic Strike is shit as Fuck 44 Dmg for 15/12 Rage and loosing next autohit.

[echo plaza]

I am new to wow classic so I didn't know lol

Thanks for the tip !

[thorny copper]

Hey, i have a question for dual wield. i am running Honed Darkwater Talwar Mainhand and Cross Dagger of the Tiger Offhand atm, yesterday i got Gusting Wind. Am i right, that in Raid Crossdager is > Gusting Wind but in the open world Gusting wind will do slightly more dmg to normal Mobs?

[summer carbon]

As a tank, yes

As 2h/DW, you shouldnt ignore it although you hardly ever use it either as 2h (but sometimes you do)

[echo plaza]

Ah ok

I am as of yet still unclear on the "correct" situations to use HS

[summer carbon]

Well for 2h using Raging Blow, Consumed by Rage and Quick Strike, you mainly ragedump with QS so HS isnt much used but as you always press Raging Blow when its off cooldown, you might be ragecapped, RB is coming off cooldown next global cooldown so you dont have time to press QS before your next autoattack hits

In that situation you can queue HS to go hopefully go under 80 rage, use RB and then continue to use QS

With DW, google what "heroic strike cancelling" means

Then you understand what HS(and cleave) do for dual wielding

[supple cradle]

guys

i got a taste of wf

and I can't live life without it now

[summer carbon]

Its a drug

[flint herald]

I just tank if there isn't wf. There's no.going back

[grand rain]

Wf or log off

[left zephyr]

possible to make a raging blow, overpower macro? #showtooltip
/cast Raging Blow
/cast Overpower
/startattack

doesnt use overpower :S

[magic cliff]

I feel like i'm doing something wrong while dual wielding. Damage seems good, but hamstring is often not enough to keep me dipping over/under 80. I end up using heroic strike as well when i'm at or close to 100, but HS isn't used often apparently?

[summer carbon]

Not an expert here but if you press hamstring on almost every CD outside of OP and RB, logically you should HS if you are still hitting ragecap

Which also helps your damage since it drops your offhand hit to 9%

[left zephyr]

why is hamsting spam a thing?

it does 5 dmg?

[summer carbon]

It procs deep wounds and feral-WF

So with feral, it has chance to do 5 damage + weapondamage20% ap and do 60% weapondamage bleed which also boosted by feral's Mangle

And when WF procs, you get rage from that

Its not greatest thing but its way better than other things you can use to ragedump aka heroic strike

[left zephyr]

oh

[true stirrup]

for sod - what tends to be the strat for DW rotation in BFD?

[vapid gulch]

i feel like warrior is the only class without a class SOD discord lol

i dont get it

[slender scarab]

Rogues is same, they just use the “classic” server.

[carmine turtle]

Same as Two Hand but swap quick strike out for hamstring as your rage spender.

[fluid veldt]

When does agi take prio over strength?, i see some people stack agi and others prio strength is there any clear info on this?, playing DW incase that matters

[fluid veldt]

Do you notice a difference with your dagger compared to Serrakis?, wondering if i should roll on it or not next time it drops

[left zephyr]

can anyone help with this?

[pastel socket]

its time

[ocean stag]

What proffessions do you reckon will be most useful for phase 2? Im thinking it might be worth sticking with leatherworking since the epic hands will likely be prebis with the 1% hit?

[summer carbon]

Whats this?

Wait

lvl40 warrior quest?

[icy cliff]

Hello guys, i have a question regarding Human fury warr in classic era. I Was wondering which combinations of weapons would give me the biggest dps increase?

Dalrend 2 set
Fang of the faceless
quel serrar
mirahs song

[thorny copper]

No idea but you can figure it out by yourself. https://guybrushgit.github.io/WarriorSim/classic.html just select the weapons you have and press sim

Under settings you can choose other options like fight lenghts etc

[left zephyr]

Unsure what to play in next phase. Right now my ret is more fun because I really don't like Consumed by rage. But maybe there will come another rune, maybe not. 😟

[summer carbon]

lvl40 you get stuff like whirlwind, mortal strike, bloodthirst, sweeping strikes

[left zephyr]

Mmmm yeaaah!

[summer carbon]

And Warbringer works with Intervene/Intercept too

And Berserker Rage activates Flagellation

Which technically pumps up Flags uptime to 50% (10s every 30s, 10s every 1min)

[tardy lily]

Its nice to be place 1 in DPS in BFD, but hopefully lvl 40 pvp will be better. No way to win vs an other class. Druid, Warlock and Priest kill you with Dots and tank you. Palas are unkillable. Hunter nothing to say and Rogue with full CD also no way to win. Mages if they dont stay like idiots in range of Charge also no way to win.

[summer carbon]

Also one thing is gonna be interesting

What they are gonna do with Slam?

Raging blow has 8s cooldown
Mortal Strike has 6s cooldown
Whirlwind has 10s cooldown

Not much time to use Pummel nor not even reason because QS exists

[edgy pier]

Is there a good way to calculate the %dmg increase when akumai for example has 5 stacks of sunder vs no stacks?

[wraith pulsar]

Does fap work for the ice pathes on Lady Sarevess?

[opaque ferry]

yes

[verbal zodiac]

Faster rage gen and the proc on dagger is trash

[summer carbon]

Are you ready for the P2 caster-stick prebis meta

Also hunters can totally farm exiles in arathi so you can have the mats ready now

For DW, you can get easy WSG revered sword + RFD quest sword for offhand

[runic quail]

Are dual wielders running SMF or endless rage?

with I assume raging blow and CBR

[tidal patio]

Cbr, smf, rb

[proud spindle]

Guys I think I must be doing something wrong judging by my dps but I'm not sure what. Had a another warrior with similar gs out dps me by like 20dps and from many fights it looks like I'm just not doing almost any deep wounds damage. I'm full arms, 3/3 in dw with 1 in fury for crit

We were both 2h

He had smites I had the green sword from nekrosh quest

Also I saw her was using heroic strike even though he had quick strike as well. Now this confused me because I thought quick strike was the go-to rage spender. Is that wrong?

My rotation was basically RB on cd, try to keep CBR uptime 100%, keep rend up, not be at 100 rage to not waste any, and that's about it. What am I missing? I have about 250 gs, is having a good weapon just super important?

[untold matrix]

Outlaw Saber and 15.2 dps offhand, or Fathomblade?

[summer carbon]

Remove rend from your actionbars

Rend is just bad. Also weapons are super very important for warriors

And you usually dont use HS but sometimes when you are going to hit ragecap and your RB cd is coming up, you can HS instead of QS to hit that RB on correct time

QS should always be your go-to ragedump

[tardy lily]

Rend is only good on solo leveling with bad gear

[proud spindle]

I got it... So apart from rend I don't feel like I'm doing much wrong

But I was getting out dicked pretty convincingly

And my deep wounds up time is just shit, it's almost negligent. Does that just come with better gear?

[summer carbon]

Scales with gear yeah

Cant say for sure why your damage tanked vs him when we lack n+1 details that can determine that

[proud spindle]

Of course, it should still be in details and I might have even been logging so I'll check back in

Thanks for the advice so far

[proud spindle]

these this is the details mouseover, left-hand side is the other warrior who even had lower gs (altho a better weapon)

and I've come to a bit of an embarrassing realization. went into my options and for whatever reason floating combat text was on when it was definitely off previously and I think I may have just forgotten to press overpower since I'm used to waiting for the text rather than staring at my bars all the time...... I think that also definitely contributed to the deep wounds through crits as well

floating combat text was off*

[fringe grove]

don't use rend or execute, will make your damage drop off massively, make sure you're using HS whenever you have excess rage so you hit the consumed by rage buff consistently, also it looks like the other warr just proc'd deep wound a lot more so would make sense why they did more damage

8 executes is really bad

[proud spindle]

wait, don't use execute?

but it makes a satisfying sound

[fringe grove]

LOL i feel you but unfortunately it's not worth losing all your rage for

maybe like at the very very end of a fight

[proud spindle]

yeah usually only at the end

I used to save the big execute with all rage for very last ability, but I felt like I can cast it on the last duration of CBR in the fight, since I can still cast RB and I just though execute has to be better rage efficiency than QS

so I get off like 4 executes in the end, is it better to just dump with QS/HS?

[fringe grove]

yeah the dmg per rage of execute is so bad past 15 rage so i wouldnt even use it if i were you

griefs you hard

yeah

way better imo

[proud spindle]

alright I'm learnig a lot here

I really wanted to get everything down before I started raiding but I couldn't really find very detailed kind of up-to-date consensus on build, rotation, and whatnot

so I just kinda went in figuring it out on the way

for example there's no pins in this discord, maybe we should put something up for people trying to figure out what to do

[fringe grove]

what i did was just check logs of top warrs and see their rotation so you can maximise your own damage

[proud spindle]

my first 25 was a hunter and there's 30 pinned messages clarifying all kinds of different things so I was hoping for the same here

yeah I did that too, which is how I at least got the runes right

but clearly did not go into enough detail to get all of my stuff right

[faint hornet]

I didn't see it mentioned above, but were you running world buffs?

DMF, boon, and drums make a world of difference. Also, what about consumes?

It looks like he rolled a much bigger deep wounds proc than you did, likely because he has higher crit chance.

[proud spindle]

Didn't have dmf since it's an alt, I'm pugging, and it was opposite faction, but I always have +8agi/str elixirs both on as well as boon. I don't bother with drums tbh. Also rage pots on every pull since pugs always take forever to pull

I ran another raid today and barely did more dps although we didn't have homunculi so that might have made a difference because I think I overall did a lot better execution wise

[round wind]

In season of discovery, what's going to acquaint to the biggest increase in damage for us...

I've got some pre raid best and slot gear. But I feel like my damage is very lacking i'm using smites hammer. Is trying to figure out where my biggest d p s increase is going to come from and target that once I get home from work today... I don't know if I should target general gear good one handed weapons or perhaps the flagelation rune first

I wouldn't say any of the gear I have is bad. It's jus not all pre raid bs. Warrior bieng very gear dependent im working iff itll just start hitting alot harder witha. Few more pieces of str

[tardy lily]

Have someone a strengh to agility ratio? For Example BiS Wrist. 2 Strengh > 3 Agi?

[proud spindle]

this was my last raid on akumai, biggest difference is I died on kelris (was a pug, despite popping fap cause he was being tanked in the middle of purple shit) so lost consumes/WB and we didn't have homunculi. the few overpowers I did get did not crit which I think hurt my dps, but overall almost no dps increase despite not using rend anymore, including HC when necessary, and only really executing in the very end

[proud spindle]

in my limited understanding, the right weapons are by far the largest contributor to warrior dps. if you have a good main hand you can get away with a shitty offhand if its fast enough, but otherwise not sure how else to improve significantly

[cinder berry]

is it true that ritual blade is BIS or do i want chipped bite?

[proud spindle]

for offhand the most important part is the speed to maximize deep wounds procs, so the two 1.2 daggers from kelris and akumai are bis

and with ritual dagger having 1 higher dmg, that makes it very slightly better

[tawdry reef]

yesss i got honed darkwater and the ritual dagger in one run

[regal citrus]

hey y'all, is anyone able to help me out with exactly what runes + rotation I should be using with 2H (have epic 2h from BFD)

info online is mixed

some say QS, some say you dont have enough rage for it

[flint herald]

i run QS to pretty decent success, just a pain pooling up the initial 80 rage but once you're there raging blow on cooldown QS as needed to not cap on rage and live your best life..

[silk dirge]

in a dual-wieldsingle minded fury build, whats the best rotation to dump rage, once i hit cap its hard for me to dump back below 80

[carmine turtle]

Spam hamstring

[silk dirge]

i got one of the 1.20 speed daggers and and i spam hamstring but i cant go lower then 80 i build to fast

i was throwing in thunderclaps and shiz

[summer carbon]

If hamstring (or qs) isnt enough and you need to use your gcd for rb, use hs

[violet viper]

Cross dagger of strength OH vs . Gusting wind OH?

1.30 AS Cross dagger of strength | 1.4 AS Gusting wind , but higher weapon DPS

[summer carbon]

Dagger but fist is cooler

Speed + stats (making your mainhand + all specials hit harder) is better than better dps

[fringe grove]

your deep wounds isn’t procing no where near enough, im starting to think you dont have much crit or your strength to agility ratio isn’t good

[chrome gale]

What is ideal strength/agi ratio?

[ocean stag]

If you dont have rage pooled before boss just time your charge with the pulltimer and use bloodrage+rage potion and you Will have 80 energy in no-time 🙂
For the runes with 2h the strongest setup is QS+RB+CbR.
Rotation is just Overpower/Raging blow on CD. Then just quickstrike to dump below 80 rage.
If you dont have homunculi in your setup , replace QS with SA untill 5 stacks

And execute only the very last moment. Ideally at 1% for killing blow. If you have rage pot and bloodrage up you can pop those to get a 2nd execute in

[summer carbon]

Ragepotting when the boss has 1% health is pretty... interesting advice

To just look better on the meters?

[ocean stag]

I mean they’re basically free so sure. But i mixed up his question with the guy asking how to get better meters.

[edgy pier]

Is it possible to filter my comparison by only those warriors who had the same buffs as me? Like exclude people with DMF, or who have a feral and wild strikes

On raidlogs I mean

[edgy pier]

Also, any idea how much armor akumai has?

[tropic lotus]

Does dual wielding work right now in SoD with the limited talent points?

[edgy pier]

Yes

[summer carbon]

Yes

[tropic lotus]

Do you take arms or fury talents?

[edgy pier]

Arms

Deep wounds m8

[proud spindle]

I got 50 agi and 9% crit with only boon

[fringe grove]

yeah i think thats the issue then, you have really low agi

have you been stacking strength only?

[proud spindle]

at low crit is agi more important than str?

I've been building whatever I come across, regular str/agi prebis boes I guess

[tidal patio]

anyone got a weak aura for being behind target/sweet spot for meelee?

[round wind]

is dual wielding better than 2 handers i have no good one handers but i do have smites hammer should i start trying to build items for DW and if so what am i looking for in each hand Im assuiming big damage in main hand dagger in off?

not looking to top parse just wanna up dps in my raid group so we can have an esier time gearing our alts

[slender scroll]

is it true they're offering +skill to weapons elsewhere in SoD, therefore all races are viable? or are we still slaves to human on alliance?

[fossil ice]

Sully I had 80-90 damage parses with smites hammer

It’s very good I was happy with 2hander play style

[summer carbon]

They said they are keeping an eye out on that. Currently there isnt anything to compensate the weaponskill (and it hardly matters)

[lethal brook]

Is it a good idea to tank bfd with 2h in arms ? Or it’s safer to go prot cuz devastate is really good ?

I mean if I just dinged 25 lvl and did some dm runs mostly

So no pre bis

[summer carbon]

Dev. 2h tonking is not really a thing

[tardy lily]

You can clear the instance naked. The question is. Do you want a smooth raid or a super fast raid. Smooth for healer is ofc def stance and shield. No discussion. The damage with devastate is really good. You need sunders for melees. So maybe you make 50dps more with DPS Spec but you won’t win much time, only angry healers in 99% of the normal raids. If you are planning a speed run, I think you wouldn’t ask here.

[lethal brook]

Nono just simple bfd maybe gdkp cuz no time for gearing and don’t want waste raid cd time

But talents still arms ?

[tardy lily]

Yes 11-3 is normal tank build. Same like DPS only no Overpower and 2 more crit. The damage is super and you are tanks enough.

[lethal brook]

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/talent-calc/warrior/053200003-03_156mf76vwa6mg seems i can go like this when i ding 25

[summer carbon]

I've personally tanked always with full 16/0/0 spec

Doesnt really matter

[round wind]

Decided to try Dw as smites hammer wasnt cutting it. Running the raid hopping for a good Mh and the epic sword drops for me.... so back to 2 hand i think

[summer carbon]

You think? :D

[round wind]

Not too often. My journey into Dw lasted about 60 level skill increases

[summer carbon]

Gnomer will be interesting

DW will start to really shine

But 2h is better than ever. I hope gnomer has good sword in there, dont wanna into axe spec :D

[round wind]

Im hopefull did you see the changes made to that druid weapon. The one that increases attack speed by 50 percent for 30 seconds. Doesnt seem to be limited to 5 uses anymore

[summer carbon]

Yeah

And thats for non-warriors :D

[round wind]

True but thats a huge change made. So i expect more like it ones that will be for us though haha

[summer carbon]

Yeah they probably will add alot of new gear

[supple cradle]

Is Devestate worth it while leveling?

I don't have deep wounds and it feels easier to tank with just rending, TC, and HS

Using Endless Rage

[summer carbon]

Its best ragedump yeah but for leveling while you have a shitty weapon, endless rage is probably better

[analog nexus]

I would just use a 2h for leveling, the extra mitigation from sword/board only really works out when you're fighting mobs <= your level; other than that you usually end up in a blow-for-blow battle hoping nothing spawns

[supple cradle]

I mean dungeons

[supple cradle]

My drops have been so shit that my best 2her is odo's ley staff

[slender scarab]

Hit 25 on war today, made a bfd right away. Luckily got fathomblade. Now to grind for hydra

Was using smites hammer.

[radiant plank]

yo bois anyone got addon/weakaura that makes "Raging Blow" glow when available?

[grand rain]

Typically “show me when” is the go to for that, although I’m not sure if someone has made it for sod yet

[radiant plank]

I've seen Payo & some other streamer play with something that basically lights up raging blow whenever he's enraged

haven't been able to figure out what it is

[grand rain]

Yea the addon or weakaura for that is usually called “show me when”

[radiant plank]

I've got SpellActivationOverlay but hasn't been updated for SoD

[radiant plank]

ya, been trying to WA it

but I'm dumb & it's hard

[grand rain]

Look on curse, look on wagio

[slender scarab]

Nah king you smart, you don’t need that. You know that 80 rage and when you press bloodrage you got it.

I’ll tell ya what makes me feel dumb though. Learning how to code, shit is rough. My gift is i’ve always learned things faster than normal people. Coding, different story.

[radiant plank]

[slender scarab]

Luckily i’m a degenerate so trading came easy

Don’t need to learn how to code but want to as a hobby because it’s kinda cool.

[strange spindle]

What runes should we be running for wsg?

[summer carbon]

Warbringer, attack speed, quickstrike

God next phase warriors will be oppressive in pvp. Cant outrun them when you have 3 abilities that charge and break movement imparing effects

[wise geyser]

Aloha warriors,
I had a very cool addon for Classik, TimeToKill. This addon showed the remaining time of the boss at Current DPS/HP. Unfortunately the addon no longer works. Does anyone know an alternative?

[thorny quest]

Hi All, new to warrior here and had a quick question about our talent tree. I followed a build and currently have 4/5 in Tactical Mastery in the Arms tree yet have never found myself swapping to Defensive Stance. What am I missing out on?

Is it in case of needed to swap to taunt?

(This is for SoD btw)

[summer carbon]

Well the points is more or less quality of life

20 rage is also enough to swap into def and Disarm

[thorny quest]

Should I be using disarm in PvE? Never really done that before.

[summer carbon]

You dont

But in pvp its nice

[thorny quest]

Gotcha, I haven't PvP'ed yet so I may change those points, thanks for the response.

[fluid veldt]

Anyone knows if its better to put 2 points in improved overpower or 1 more point in cruelty DW

[summer carbon]

Its kinda sidegrade

I personally go imp.OP because I like seeing big numbers when OP procs

Feels better :D. And thats just it

Also prepare for the pain of P2 talent trees. Its always 31 points to some tree and no fun allowed

[fluid veldt]

So theres not really a big difference ultimately

[summer carbon]

Not huge ones no. Cruely always applies and to everything so its a bit better in general

But my neurons activate when I see that OP proc and slap something with 600 OP

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=8703/signet-of-expertise Also suck it LW bros

Also love it that you can get insane dps dagger in p2

...But it requires you to quests in Feralas, do Zul'Farrak, go to Jinth'Alor in Hinterlands and then do Sunken Temple :D gl with that

Also gives bis tanking helm with 25 sta

Also ready for P2

[grand rain]

💯

Actually an amazing idea

[summer carbon]

Farmed them with me hunter

Cresting were easy, just kite them to hammerfall. Burning were easy too, normal kiting

Air exiles were total bitch since they have 40y lighting bolt attack

But hunter + healer or 2x hunters can easily farm them

[slender scarab]

What are they for?

[summer carbon]

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=1792/whirlwind-weapon

Warrior weapon questline. Lvl40 but can be done at lvl30 already

[slender scarab]

Oh shit been forever since i did that quest, forgot.

[ocean stag]

For any dual wielder out there, whats your crit% and str/agi ratio (unbuffed)?

[slender scarab]

Dw was weird for me when i really didn’t understand warrior dw did way better. But once i understood staying ~80 rage and just going under to constantly proc raging blow 2h did way better for me.

Not that this answers your question just kinda making a comment.

Which also brings me to. Once you finally hit 80 rage do you guys all completely rage dump or just keep quickstrike/cleave until under 80 again.

[wooden yoke]

You want to float in such a way you never lose enrage, but never overcap short of a WF crit.

[summer carbon]

More or less float on it, not much reason to ragedump to 0

[slender scarab]

Okay, yeah that’s what i do once enrage hits i’ll cleave or QS until 70ish and then just float between 70-80+

[cinder berry]

is chipped bite, or gusting wind better?

[summer carbon]

As offhand? The faster one

So gusting wind

[cinder berry]

thxs

[vapid gulch]

is there an sod channel for any warrior discords

[slender scarab]

This one

[cinder berry]

how good is the defense stat? trying to configure my full tank set. and yes i know the meta is go for dps. just want to know what would make me the most survivable

[slender scarab]

Yeah tbh not fully sure what defense event counts towards. Kinda think it’s like vers minus the damage increase.

[cinder berry]

whats better, 2 set bonus from BFD or shifting silver? basically comes down to 12 ap, a tiny amount of crit and 3 stam, vs 1% hit and the effect

[summer carbon]

Nothing special really. If you are tanking, using the pieces with defense aint bad idea but basically slapping on the gear with most stam and/or gotten from BFD will do the job

[limber nebula]

Can i ask what items are these?

[summer carbon]

.

[summer carbon]

...Oh

SoD has Wotlk deep wounds. Well that explains things :D

Basically: your own deep wound procs now stack damage instead of resetting the proc. Damage is based off weapon damage rather than critical hit damage.

[summer carbon]

Makes me value crit a lot more now

Although cant be arsed to respec. I'm already in that P2 prebis 16/0/0 spec kek

[arctic fog]

What´s the human warrior leveling route now with the BFD wb? Lvl 12 forest into darnassus for WB -> darkshore?

[ocean stag]

3 set piece. Hit has and will probably always be the highest value attribut. The small extra bonus to attacks from a little more str/ap cant be compared to the full loss of dmg on a missed attack!

To a certain point, You wouldnt go Fathomblade with 1% hit over Hydra Strike haha

[summer carbon]

Hydra adds -armor debuff so you would always go for it

[desert garnet]

are the void touched gloves considered bad now? theyre simming worse for me than the warsong gauntlets currently. Would love to be able to drop LW 😄

[summer carbon]

Cant have Hammer of Expertise in P2 with LW

[desert garnet]

yeah I was going what the ideal proffs were going to be for P2, haven't really played a whole lot of classic before

still engi and LW?

[summer carbon]

Well in P2 it quite likely aint gonna be LW

Engi is a solid choice always

Im sticking to BS due to hunch that they add next tier of Void-Touched gear

[desert garnet]

Ok thanks for info, gunna drop lw

[cinder berry]

Isn't the 3 piece 1% hit? Which the cheat also has? And I was actually asking specifically about 2 piece. Still missing helm

[ocean stag]

yes, you cant get that 3 piece bonus with shifting chest which is why you want the leather gloves above epic chest. Regading only 2 pieces i dont know what would be most value. Probably pretty similar but i’d say sim it before you decide 🙂

[cinder berry]

i didn't realise there was a place to sim classic tbh lol. mind if i ask where/how i can do that?

[ocean stag]

https://guybrushgit.github.io/WarriorSim/

I dont think its 100% and might be a little outdated but i feel like the results are somewhat legit

[tepid egret]

Sorry if this has been asked before.
What is the best build for dungeon lvling in p2?
Have epic 2h and running with a feral with WS
Thunderclap&cleave spam with arms talents?
New to warrior in classic 😁

[cinder berry]

so, this is showing fathomblade almost 100 dps over protectors sword +gusting wind/chipped bite????? that seems wildly off

[summer carbon]

2h arms spamming cleave and when you hit 30, take a detour with your group to do your berserker stance quest + get WW axe

And then continue doing what you did. And at some point start going bananas with sweeping strikes + whirlwind

Which is also a reason to get 5/5 tac mastery asap

[tepid egret]

Great, thank you!

[ocean stag]

There’s a bunch of settings, try changing windfury or combat duration maybe. But as i said its probably not 100%. Maybe the deep wounds isnt working properly

[summer carbon]

Also note: you need 8+8+8 exile charms from arathi elementals for this. They are gonna be heavily farmed p2 forward and are lvl38-40 mobs

Also you need to kill trolls in STV for teeth but they are 30-33

[pure steeple]

Evening, question please is it worth getting epic chest from blacksmithing since it’s less than a month now for phase 2.

[summer carbon]

You'll get an upgrade to it at lvl40

So... maybe

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/items/armor/min-req-level:20/max-req-level:40/class:1/quality:2:3:4/slot:5/type:2:3:4?filter-any=20:38:96:119:21;1:1:1:1:1;0:0:0:0:0#items;0-16-13-17-14-15+24

As you can see, there isnt much thats better

+1% hit is huge

The Warforged Breastplate is an upgrade but you have to kill two lvl50 elites for that

[delicate rose]

anyone have some weak aura to track enrage?

[coarse nova]

SOD vanilla chat here as well ?

have warrior questions

[supple cradle]

Can we sim SoD?

Is that even a thing?

[summer carbon]

Hot take: if theres no rune to support it, DW-Fury wont be viable in in P2 due to lack of Deep Wounds

[supple cradle]

Oh yeah Deep Wounds is a game-changer.

[summer carbon]

But then again, blizz can pull anything out of their asses and clearly keeps an eye on balance

Maybe 1h weapons in gnomer will be absolutely bonkers while 2h are meh

Nvm theres atleast gonna be one 2h axe

[supple cradle]

I was gonna say dude

Like - Whirlwind Axe??

Just on its own that'll be a lot

[summer carbon]

Thermaplugg drops 2h axe so that might get epic'd too like Strike of the Hydra from Aku'mai

[supple cradle]

Are they really making gnomer the raid?

[summer carbon]

Yeah

[supple cradle]

Not a fan of that tbh, but I see why

It's enormous.

[summer carbon]

Like, did you expect to see fucking Blackfathom Depths to be a raid? Sky is the limit here

But yeah I'm also wondering what they are gonna do with gnomers fuckhueg layout. I'm not even sure how big the place is

[supple cradle]

Big, but not as sprawling as people imagine.

But there are lots of side-routes.

[summer carbon]

I'm happy as long as they dont make Viscous Fallou an nature protection potion fight

[supple cradle]

Yeah resist fights have always been ass any way you slice it

Would you say smites 2h is better than 2 barbs?

I feel like with wild strikes and quick strikes you just get more damage from it

[summer carbon]

Probably on a same level. Thou BFD 1st boss quest sword is better

and WSG revered rep for offhand. That should be grinded to revered anyway to get the sword in P2

[supple cradle]

You proc wild strikes with quick strike tho

And it's objectively the most damaging at-will we have.

I'd be shocked if DW is that much better

[summer carbon]

With bis gear, dw and 2h are more or less same level

[sullen lake]

Dw only better if you run the deep wounds build with a super fast offhand

[supple cradle]

how much better

I'm surprised 2h wf procs doesn't eclipse it

[pure steeple]

Thanks for the info mate

[honest leaf]

Anybody know best runes and wep set up for bfd tanking?

[pearl veldt]

Hey! you there! .. I'm trying to narrow down my choices and pick a main for phase 2.. How do you feel about the warrior, are things looking bright for lvl 40? I know we don't know anything about runes, but I've heard that the "80 rage dance" is pleasing people?

[nimble coral]

whats the off hand bis except the dagger from bfd?

[paper tree]

blackfathom ritual dagger

[flint herald]

just pick warrior so you have a bigger loot pool, take it all live your best life.
At the end of the day even the worst performing class is smashing it in SoD just pick the most fun playstyle to you.. in saying that warriors looking pretty juicy for lvl 40

[lethal brook]

Are you good geared ?

[lethal brook]

Is it better to get gloves + set or get chest is better ?

[summer carbon]

At this point its almost the same, you have ~3 weeks till p2

LW gloves + set is better than BS chest + 2p set

But LW might not be optimal in P2

[lethal brook]

So I should watch at items I will get from bfd

Ok

One more question -in this phase and in p2 agi > strength for tanking (and dps also ?)

And for aoe grinding what are the best runes you found ? I tried war bringer + devastate + thunder rune

And tried bleed rune + rune for more rage + thunder rune

Fore me first setup was better in terms of QoL

But second setup was better in aoe threat but worse in start treat

And one more question -if I play without warbringer is it worth to take 2 talents in arms to get 9 rage saved from charge ?

And if I consider staying in dungeons for 40 as tank I suggest going full prot in start of p2 is way it works? Or half arms -half prot is better ?

[pearl veldt]

I'm not lucky enough to have the sword from BFD yet on my warrior, which of these would you say is better for main hand?

[summer carbon]

1st boss BFD quest sword

Or revered WSG rep sword

[summer carbon]

In fact get this since in P2, you'll get lvl38 version of it too. And the bow + dagger

[summer carbon]

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Its kinda nifty that you can mask the real url like this

[cinder berry]

how does the bfd quest sword work exactly? is it a small dop chance for 1 person. and can it only go to whoever happens to have the loot chance for boss cause its their turn in group?

[wheat sable]

Cool video about the first race to world first in vanilla

https://youtu.be/iaBacZea7W4?si=LUZwg5cgR9QiqaGe

[lethal brook]

can someone explain why raging blow is better than flagilation in dual wield setup?

kinda wierd i did calulation and its 200 damage loss every minute maybe im wrong

assuming im spamming only hs in 12 sec duriation

[supple cradle]

This is one of those "show your work" situations, I think. I kinda wish we could sim SoD.

[summer carbon]

Well you should spam hamstring anyway

[lethal brook]

Well I found one for warriors

[supple cradle]

Depends a lot on what the sim is being fed.

Instead of being cryptic, it'd be better to just dump your work here for everyone to pick through and discern whether or not it'll change meta or it's just minor inconsistencies.

[blazing arch]

whats a good site for SOD information on war? ive seen too many comments on builds for any class that say "this guide is not even close to right"

[dull birch]

this is the classic warrior discord https://discord.gg/RbCZJtw

[pearl veldt]

Hey guys. Which of these two rings should I be using as a DW dps warrior? They're all pretty similar, but some has to be better I guess? :P I'm currently using Protector's + Family Seal

[fringe grove]

is fathomblade better than smite hammer?

[summer carbon]

Yes

Fathomblade is better than anything outside of BFD

And Hydra is better than fathombalde

[analog nexus]

Fight Club has 0 SOD information, this discord is more useful

[dull birch]

you are right they only have like 8 channels with pins about priorities and sims

[analog nexus]

Where?

All I see is macros

Not all of us have permissions to see Fight Club lmao

No point linking people to private discords with no way of gaining access to the private areas

[dull birch]

bro this is on the info channel

[analog nexus]

Oh, cool, thank you

[dull birch]

np ^^

[agile flame]

is there a sim sheet here?

[round wind]

Anyone have good resources for warrior dps i got the 2 handed but im struggling a little on the rotation compared to other warriors numbers.
Rage dumping seems to be an issue at times.

Im working in my office not in the field doing install so i can easily let some videos play in backround today and watch if anyone knows a good link to a podcast or youtube video thay does sod deep.dives

[normal plank]

Anyone able to check the logs of an aspiring warrior in SoD? Tell Clarg why Clarg suck?

[edgy pier]

if a group clears BFD, then invites you to the raid and you join, are you locked? Or no since all the bosses are dead?

strictly for void touched purposes

[grand rain]

It should ask you if you want to lock yourself but I haven’t tested in sod

[analog nexus]

You're locked out the moment you enter the instance

[round forge]

What's gonna be best 2 professions for us in Phase 2?

[cinder berry]

that will depend on what crafted stuff they add

could be BS, could be LW again, or could be ENG

[sour fractal]

I have a question regarding Overpower.

If oyu do a cleave an i miss one mob of 3, does this means i can do an oveprower on anymob or i have to actually select the mob that missed to cast it?

[silent oriole]

the latter.

which is made fairly obvious when you get the op notification but can't do it on whatever mob you're targetting~

[untold matrix]

So I'm being told on SoD deep wounds will only tick 3s after a crit still? That seems like a very risky way to be able to build up deep wounds to be massive ticks if you can get enough crit or encourage turning off autos for a while

[grand rain]

Are you sure it rolls like ignite?

[oblique mountain]

hey guys is tehre a SOD channel please?

[grand rain]

This one is it pretty much

[edgy pier]

purple chest is strong

did 195 with that and no ashenvale drums vs 187 with drums and no purple chest, all else the same

vs akumai

[tranquil grail]

Hello friends, is 2H still the optimal way to level in SoD?

[tardy lily]

Hydra>Talwar DW>DW>2h

[hot bluff]

hello friends someone can take a look at my logs from my last BFD run? I'd love some advices for my next runs

[proud spindle]

I would like the same. I'm pretty sure I'm doing most of the rotation right, mostly 100% uptime on CBR and otherwise rage dumping before 100 with quick strike, spam RB on cd, etc. but I'm still struggling to get above around 50 parses which is strange cause I'm 95 avg on my main so I don't think I'm terrible at the game. I think a big reason is that I'm still rocking the coral reef axe from gelihast which is pretty meh, what can I do other than pray for fathomblade/hydra?

also haven't got my hands on a decent one hander, is DW with shit weapons better than 2h with shit weapons?

[edgy pier]

Is there a mage discord? I have questions about scorch in SOD

No scope, don’t worry about your parses

So much depends on buffs and your group comp

Just focus on being top dps in your raid

You need boon, dmf, drums, homunculi, wild strikes etc

Also make sure you rage pot

It’s also alot of RNG bc the fights are so short

Wrt crits

[proud spindle]

it bothers me that I keep seeing green lol but yeah it's my 3rd alt and I've been pugging so the comps are ass, often without wild strikes homunculi and so on... I was just trying to focus on those things which I can improve despite the pugs. I always have boon, agi and str elixir, and rage pot on almost every boss. only thing consumes wise I don't do is drums/ashenvale thing

[fallow heath]

Is there an FAQ for SoD leveling?

[edgy pier]

impossible to compare parses without those things being equal

[fringe grove]

how do you avoid staying at rage cap on dw? i spam hamstrings but i can never go under 80 again since i build up rage too fast

[fringe grove]

idm having a look at your logs and helping out, dm me

[fringe grove]

is hamstring + HS the way or no

[charred zealot]

Yeah

[untold matrix]

it combines somehow, I got a tick at 170

it does seem every crit delays it though which kinda sucks

[proud spindle]

https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fyBC94KHtV83kdwq here's the logs (I'm ynzo), I don't mind if others take a look too and give their advice

[verbal zodiac]

Going without Wild Strikes is wild should be bare minimum 😆

[verbal zodiac]

Get a mace or sword to benefit from Human weaponskill racial and consider getting LW gloves or BS chest for 1% hit. You are missing 10-15% of the attacks that you do. And no Wild Strikes in raid is a raid to avoid.

[verbal zodiac]

On your last Aku'Mai with no Wild Strikes
Auto attack: 3 miss out of 28
Raging blow: 2 miss out of 13
Quick Strike: 7 miss out of 27

[proud spindle]

15% is kinda wild, is that normal? I have ancient war sword from which I "upgraded" to the axe, should I go back to the sword? epic thing I can't be bothered with cause it's my 3rd prio character and end of phase

[verbal zodiac]

War Sword gives you weaponskill and 9 strength

[proud spindle]

I compared equipping and my dmg came out higher with the axe, so I figured including deep wounds and stuff that the higher dmg weapon would be better

[verbal zodiac]

Weaponskill / Hit is always more important then some slightly extra weapon damage

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow-classic/fury-warrior-dps-season-of-discovery-pve-stat-priority

[proud spindle]

right, I completely forgot to account for wep skill when comparing the weapons

will go back to the sword

[proud spindle]

put the sword back on and joined a random pug... we had windfury this time and I picked up dmf. went better, I picked up an 83 on gelihast and did 180 dps on lorgus but the parse doesn't count since our tank died and I was tanking him for half the fight

was a terrible mess of a run, got exploded into the water by someone on baron, downtime on lady tanked in ice, died on kelris lost all buffs, we then wiped on akumai once before clearing, but all in all I did better dps so looks like improvement

still pretty bad misses even with a sword

[junior dawn]

I have been looking at warcraft logs for warrior, I see in the timeline panel that the warrior is using hamstring during the boss fights, what is the purpose of this? Is this to fish for overpower and windfury procs? Or is this warrior using it to dump rage to drop back below 80 to proc the enrage rune. Both? Would hamstring only be used in this way for dual wield? If using 2h, instead of hamstring we should use quick strike to fish + dump rage below 80?

[edgy pier]

Yes and yes

Hamstring can crit as well

So it procs deep wounds

[junior dawn]

got it thanks... deep wounds will continue building on itself right? as long as I can keep critting to keep the deep wounds alive?

so even if it's a small crit, (hamstring), it would still keep the entire dmg from deep wounds rolling?

[edgy pier]

Yes

[junior dawn]

🙏

[fresh nebula]

hi guys quick question, DW with Outlaw and Sun-touched or run Fathomblade? which is better DPS in general?

[verbal zodiac]

Your DPS is going up every run as you get more gear and experience so you are on the right path. Once you get the Avenger's Helm you will have another 1% hit and miss less

Just pray for Fathomblade > Honed Talwar > Hydra

[verbal zodiac]

Also try to resist pressing the execute button until the very last moment you don't want Consumed by Rage to fall off and being unable to Raging Blow

[proud spindle]

I usually try to save it for after I renew what I feel like will be the last refresh of CbR, then I dump rage and then execute in the end however many times I manage. Often I also keep enrage for the last phase for RB and extra rage for execute after it consumes all of it

[tough kayak]

hello can i ask a SoD warrior question here?

[neon spade]

yes

[tough kayak]

So, my friend is new to raiding and he really wants to Raid as 2H tank. And I want to help him. Any tips on build/runes/etc?

Our first raid. even if we went as fresh didnt went really well

[neon spade]

u just run dps setup from what i know

just wear def gear and high stam gear

and be in d stance

[tough kayak]

and runes and talents?

[neon spade]

the same as dps with 2hander

[tough kayak]

so no parry talent?

[neon spade]

i mean i end up tanking most bosses by overaggro with dps talents and gear

🤷

i have no parry talent

u can go it

tactical mastery isnt gunna do much

as u dont swap stance

so u can have a few points in it i suppose

[ripe hazel]

is impale ever worth taking vs 2h weapon or cruelty in the last few points at 25?

[sudden pumice]

yoo i have a very specific question...
I play SoD currently and we are logging with the Guild.
but when i see trough other logs. I can see Warrior Tanks that are completely in Battle Stance.
But when i Tank a boss in Battle Stance my Logs are under the DPS Category.
How can i Tank a Boss in Battle Stance and get the Tank Parses ?

[noble drift]

Did you guys go for the gloves or the chest on your war for the epics?

[umbral forge]

Hello Guys. I got a quick question, surely answered many times. How do you cancel HS ? Some say press the button again, but doesn't work for me. Is there a macro to do ?

[noble drift]

Does esc not cancel it?

[umbral forge]

Yes it does, but I dont find it confortable to press esc every 2 second :x

[vapid cairn]

You need to start a normal auto attack

Like, do you know how when you start your character? Your number one key is just attack.

There is a macro that I don't know. But it's able to start auto attack start heroic strike and then you press that twice and it should stop it. I think

[umbral forge]

Alright ! That makes sense.

I'll try to find a macro that cancel HS when i press again the same button

Thank you guys

[ionic comet]

/startattack /cast Heroic Strike /stopcasting

There u go

Working as a toggle

[umbral forge]

Perfect, thank you

[vapid cairn]

How much of a difference dose wildstrikes add?

Like 2x damage?

Because I'm hitting around 120ish dps on bosses but I see some people are getting up too 500+

[slender scarab]

I’ve never saw more than 180. On my rogue i’ve hit like just about 300 but that was a couple lucky crits and a huge 1.1k envenom crit so by the end of the fight it was only like 180.

[vapid cairn]

I was looking at the 99 parses and that's what they are getting it seems

It just seems like a drastic jump from my measly 120

[tawdry reef]

ok warrior vs priest is absolutley 0 - 10 matchup

unwinnable

[vapid cairn]

I cant see how a warrior can win

[iron citrus]

What guides for SoD warrior would you guys recommend?