transmog

[past kettle]

Only if the NE dies by laughing

[compact plinth]

ooook

[arctic tangle]

i wish these swords werent both facing the same direction :I

[solar copper]

wtf is this polearm 😄

[compact plinth]

fury only

all else cut the fingies

[surreal barn]

it is a nelf sentinal weapon

so it works on female nelf

since they hold polarms/staffs with 1 hand

[foggy falcon]

I have a better question

[velvet vector]

[foggy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[compact plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-wtf-cat-huh-wtf-huh-cat-gif-17450980909222787557

[candid kernel]

not too sure about the tabard here but its the best ive got

actually i liked the back of the tabard covering his butt it matches the colour now i remember

[quiet sail]

new swords are clean

[ruby musk]

id work on on belt and lower part, very top heavy

[rugged imp]

Cant wait to NOT use the new trash elite

Btw is the current one fixed yet ?

[native swallow]

no and it never will be

Midnight elite weapons are great tho

[glossy wave]

season 3 ones? will never be fixed imo

[native swallow]

because the way it is now is the actual fixed state

the clipping is just the unfortunate result of the shoulder design

[rugged imp]

Its not how it should be

Its ruined

From the side the shoulders look to be sliding off lol

Im glad I got demonic glad

[past kettle]

same

the better one

[rugged imp]

Yep but I kinda liked this with the weapons

Now its D tier

[sleek sorrel]

I’m trying 😪 bottom half has proven difficult to round out

[glossy wave]

These are random chance from the weekly right?

Got the 1h axes

[wind sorrel]

What are good sets that pair okay with the High Warlord set? I understnad its not the best res but still curious what people found

Old but still

[native swallow]

Oathsworn set

[wind sorrel]

That is an idea if I want 5 more polygons in my set. Genuinely forgot about it. Thanks lol

[foggy falcon]

Man I still want this set in game

[native swallow]

yeah

maybe in the Last Titan for $30

the red version

that version above might be in the trading post

[cursive salmon]

What weekly?

[glossy wave]

prey

[cursive salmon]

Sweet thanks, trying to find out what to finish today

[tawny crypt]

We def need a proper hd version of molten core tier

[muted schooner]

Wth is that ?

[wind sorrel]

My guess is a fan edit of his red set to match his old fan arts and him being in tier one his entire wow existence till BFA. But like all things we did it better.

[hot finch]

yooo i need to get this helmet

[cerulean beacon]

it kinda works the only problem is the edge details dosen't really match well with the rest.

[simple trench]

rate my fit

[pine gulch]

Daymnn where they from ?

[limpid shale]

https://streamable.com/0hdsuf

Have a great release everyone

[scarlet shadow]

damn i did something similar

[velvet vector]

their hips and legs are so fucking thin

they jused skipped leg day all year

[simple trench]

I will say that race is amazing looking

the lore is butt

aside from that they look really good

[scarlet shadow]

them joining the horde after teldrassil is wild to me

my headcanon is they were going to be alliance and earthen were going to be horde, but when blizzard decided to extend the story into 3 expansions they had to hold off on releasing haranir

and giving the horde a race and the alliance nothing in tww would suck

[velvet vector]

nah

blizzard just dont give a fuck about lore anymore

they make neutral crap cause is easier and sells

they were going to be an allied race later in TWW

but they scrapped and added in midnight

Earthen whole bit is with the alliance with Moira, her son and Magni

[grand creek]

You get the heritage armor when you changed as well?

[scarlet shadow]

yeah with harandar being underground and the haranir lady showing up in tww makes it obvious

[scarlet shadow]

my guy is level 10, but yeah you get it at max level

[velvet vector]

hopw do you unlock them anyway

it says you need their campaign finished

but isnt that the leveling campaign?

[scarlet shadow]

its just the main campaign when it gets to harandar

finish the harandar segment of the main campaign yeah

[velvet vector]

already did and it didnt got them

[limpid shale]

I raceswaped to one but didn't get heritage, gotta exp one am I right?

[simple trench]

go next to the portal that takes you to Harandar, then there should be an NPC with a purple quest icon

[spice sedge]

Where you get em?

[scarlet shadow]

are you level 90?

[grand creek]

Anyone faction changed since midnight came out? seen reports it scuffs campaign and cant access end game content

[limpid shale]

Yup

[normal dome]

The haranir transmogs are super scuffed, basic stuff isn't even close to usable

On both models too

[velvet vector]

thanks

[scarlet shadow]

is there no quest in the embassy? or silvermoon?

[quiet sail]

either from a rare or prey reward cant remember, Preyseeker's falchion

[sleek sorrel]

Multi dollar company, please be understanding

[cerulean beacon]

the haranir model looks nice but that chest and legs do not work with the elit set

[velvet vector]

if the males had a bulky lower body it would be playable

they are too skinny

just like night elves

[cerulean beacon]

eh they kinda have the zandalari male build so looks fine

[velvet vector]

look at this tights

and the calf

this guy goes to the gym and doesnt skip leg day

unlike haranirr

[cerulean beacon]

idk they are kinda the same just that haranir is much more well toned

but they look almost the same since they share skeleton so i have no idea what you are talking about

[velvet vector]

Here is the problem, too thin and small

like, their hands are too big

and their feet/legs dont match

the proportions

its a lot weird to me

[cerulean beacon]

sounds more like you are just hating for the sake of hating they are almost 1:1 to the zandalari build

[velvet vector]

they def are not

zanda have big muscles and feet

[cerulean beacon]

not really they are almost the exact same and if you tell yourself anything different then you are just delusional and hate for the sake if hating

[velvet vector]

im not hating im just pointing out they are thin/skin there

lmao

calm down

zanda are clearly thicker and more muscular

but im being delusional lol

[cerulean beacon]

The zandalari model has more defined muscles than haranir but they are the same

[velvet vector]

"except the parts that they are different they are the same"

and again, thick

[spice sedge]

Zandalari running animation is horrendous

If it wasnt so goofy theyd be amazing

[rugged imp]

Yeah they look like baby in a diaper

Activelly shitting their pants

[cerulean beacon]

I like the zandalari model but i can't get past the feet and goofy running

[molten terrace]

got TF first day of midnight

[cerulean beacon]

gratz

[blissful pendant]

haranir = ugly temu night elves

[velvet vector]

they are much better looking than night elves

Its their lore that sucks hairy balls

[bronze moon]

And the fact that tons of transmog items clip through their models as of now, from what I've heard.

[muted schooner]

What armor you wearing bro ?

[cerulean beacon]

looks like full s1 tww warrior myth with the arathi shoulders from siren isle

and battered gladiator head piece

[muted schooner]

Looks good on dwarf, playing dwarf myself

[cerulean beacon]

Yeah saw a post about the clipping and it seems it's been like that for a couple of months now in the beta aswell

[cerulean beacon]

yeah the s1 tier looks banger on dwarf

[muted schooner]

If you can provide me a list of the items you use anytime you can I would be happy

[limpid shale]

Got it now!

It's beautiful

[silver mulch]

its aight i guess, meh

just fancy nelfs

gimme ogres or some wild shit

[tawny crypt]

Seems like blizz can just update their scaling weights

[grand creek]

it gets worse

[bronze moon]

Not good

[haughty egret]

its fine, its only just became post beta

[sleek sorrel]

Everyone’s raving about midnight but it feels half-baked to me. Can’t imagine 4 relatively small zones providing substantive content for an entire expansion. The haranir aesthetic issues are a good example.

I guess I’ll hold onto hope that m+ and pvp provide enough incentive for me to stick around

[haughty egret]

i feel like tww has more content talking about it coming up, the marketing/hype kind of felt like 10.4

[bronze moon]

I like the zones more than what we had in TWW, but they do feel smaller and with less content.

Except Voidstorm, it sucks.

[simple trench]

Is it only the females that clip horribly?

[left jungle]

Mostly, from what I've seen, but Male/Body Type 1 has a fair amount of butt clipping as well with the 3d Pant assets too.

For reference, the druid I swapped over had their entire ass out on Body Type 2/Femme model with the Crucible Tier Pants from Dragonflight, if anyone was worried about those in particular. I'm really hoping blizzard patches this this morning during maint.

(I don't think Body type 1 would have fixed anything, judging by WoWhead.)

Cause like. We know they have a more finished model, going off of the launch preview video.

I think it must have been a mistake that they pushed this iteration.

[honest cove]

Hairy Night Elves....cool

[foggy falcon]

Damn these dark trolls sure do look very scuffed don't they lmao

[scarlet shadow]

I think they look good but I think blizzard have tried to appeal to both crowds at once

The people who want more beastly races and those who want more elves

So they’ve half assed both into Haranir leaving both sides a bit underwhelmed

[wild egret]

dont mind the weapons. i wear katanas with sinful illusion. but i love haranir

[gilded relic]

Was ok until you posted AI slop.

[native swallow]

why are the gloves and boots so flat lol

[foggy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-gif-13746396505480870613

[native swallow]

it's like their poly count is halved

[frail fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-thats-ai-spongebob-toilet-thats-real-nice-meme-gif-13167262376400266709

[ruby musk]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-artificial-intelligence-artificial-intelligence-bullshit-gif-13447767862197368820

[cursive salmon]

These comments are so confusing, I get psychologically this is the first ever expansion that's a "part 2" instead of a shift to a whole new thing so the hype can certainly feel different

But complaining about 4 zones, well we had 4 zones in TWW, 4 zones in Dragonflight, and so on. There's probably actually more content in these 4 than the others

[haughty egret]

i do actually like these buff nelfs, shame pvp is locked to racials or id probs switch , played nelf in cata

[grand creek]

Full set i know i know but running this atm

[wind sorrel]

Just to play devils advocate. Zul'aman is very very small compared to the other 3. Now that said its not finished cuz Atul'atek is likely to be next patch.

That said I think this xpac is better than The war within Narratively. TWW missed the mark.

aka more hype

[wind sorrel]

I love the set but those legs be scrawny. A different belt to let the tabard flap fly might look better and add more white. Also the white scarf or black scarf if you have it.

[sleek sorrel]

Maybe it’s my own ignorance but Wow midnight is “part 2” of TWW?? So this was a half expansion? I’m just returning from a long hiatus and thought it was a full expansion release, especially given the +10 level cap, build squish, number squish, new race and devoured etc..

[cursive salmon]

That makes more sense if you haven't played in a long time. It's not any less content, but the story is a continuation of TWW instead of a move to a totally different narrative like expansions have always been in the past.

They have a trilogy of expansions planned to tell this story. The War Within -> Midnight -> The Last Titan

[cerulean beacon]

The chest bug looks goofy but other than that the haranir looks nice

[cerulean beacon]

Damn thats a clean sword

[wind sorrel]

Booba too big

[cerulean beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/court-room-court-suspect-accused-thicker-gif-3547000

might race change to it

[velvet vector]

narratively this expansion is far worse

TWW was just dogwater

this one is dogpiss

[cerulean beacon]

The thing im tired off is these shitty ass "Cinematic" cutscenes that just look horrible

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mR7J1K1xtik like why the fuck do they do these ugly looking cutscenes

[wind sorrel]

How’s it worse?

[wind sorrel]

Genuine question, what are they supposed to do?

[cerulean beacon]

Well since we are paying a subscription they can atleast do the bare minimum and give use better quality cutscenes

[shell ingot]

Are those clipping issues the kind of stuff that gets fixed or not ?

[pearl juniper]

Eventually. Don't expect it to be soon.

[normal dome]

i just skipped all of them, couldnt handle the bad writing. felt like i had to skip 30+

[deft bison]

is this an armour set

[wind sorrel]

nope closest thing is the sets on the trading post or the black one from brewfest

[nocturne grotto]

that's
Magni Bronzebeard
<The Speaker>
actually

[brittle solar]

Does this belong here

[compact plinth]

No, it belongs in nature with its family

[tired token]

Das a big Chocobo

[vernal yoke]

What weapons are these?

[vernal yoke]

Thank you

[chrome sparrow]

Calling em a mix of an orc and troll lol

[foggy falcon]

Nice cock, bro

[velvet vector]

now with the one hand mogs you can fully use shalaymane as fury and arms

[sleek sorrel]

NO, it belongs in a museum

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-indy-indy-shoot-indiana-jones-shoot-gif-11261522097321369778

[velvet vector]

damn boy this set is slick and not elvish with is rare

need to find some weapons to match

[cerulean beacon]

it is kinda elvish with it's smooth details and sharp edges

[buoyant shuttle]

it indeed is elvish, coping it isnt is just orc thing to do

[rugged imp]

Ruined set

Look how good these looked, now the shoulders are more visible from the back lol

[wooden eagle]

Combine it with legs and boots from the DK mythic set of undermine raid. It looks amazing with those parts combined.

[rugged imp]

Doesnt fix the shoulders sliding to the back

It might look ok on some races but def not on orc

[glossy wave]

undermine deathknight belt is not available for warrior right?

o nvm its boe on ah

[balmy frost]

Starting the second Zone today, so here is my Mog for it.

[tawny crypt]

Because l it is cosmic-void themes

[glossy wave]

it is insanely elvish

they generally make these armors for one color in mind (the one in the icon generally) and its basically void elf armor

if its cool just put it on

[shell ingot]

https://x.com/Warcraft/status/2028997236303032422

World of Warcraft (@Warcraft)

We’ve gotten your feedback about clipping and visibility issues on the Haranir models. We are working on implementing a fix for these as soon as possible.

As always, thank you for your feedback 🫶

X · Mar 4, 2026, 12:53 AM

well, that's a good start

[buoyant shuttle]

they gonna remove visibility of every gear slot besides chest and pants on haranir, problem fixed

[compact plinth]

They said they usually hold minor things like that for later patches but given the sheer number of issues, they made it a priority

[velvet vector]

now do that with the other races who arent human and elf

lmao

[cerulean beacon]

Tbf the other races doesn't have as bad clipping and general bugs as haranir. Most clipping is just the flaw of armor designs in the game

[native swallow]

dude

even their underwear is clipping into their body

[velvet vector]

it should be punishment for making another night elf copy

[cerulean beacon]

I know but i was talking about the other races

[cerulean beacon]

Yeah it's lazy but im not suprised. blizz loves being lazy

[foggy falcon]

You're not playing that race because of clipping issues. I'm not playing it because it's a copy and paste from another game.

We are not the same.

[wind sorrel]

I know this is a weird place to ask but does the VDH work similiar to or exactly like Heroic leap or is there Caveats?

I'll ask in an appropriate channel too.

[hot finch]

new prey set means new combinations options for the main mog

im really gunning for this blood knight tabard tho, i think its a great fit. spent all my tokens on the blood knights so far

plus i love a good beltless tabard mog

[velvet vector]

i think the gloves of the prey set goes better

[velvet vector]

but your pants will fall off

[hot finch]

i tried, i like these ones more

[wind sorrel]

I actually really like the prey set as a whole

[hot finch]

the sargerei commander gloves have a more spikey silhouette which works with the shoulders

[wind sorrel]

The helmet and shoulders are CLEAN

[cerulean beacon]

The helmet clips like hell with the chest would probably be better using the prey gloves and another chest

[hot finch]

meh that clipping really doesnt bother me

i tried prey gloves, current ones are better

my previous chest maybe was better but its time for a change

[lofty thicket]

Wildhammer v595, with some amani items, i like the fact that the spears on the back dont hide weapons/shield

[brittle solar]

Thanks 🙂

[brittle solar]

I’m pretty sure I’ve massacred its family over the years but don’t say anything

[pearl juniper]

Can you get the full prey set already?

[deft bison]

Is there like a morons guide to garrison’s because all the best orc transmog is from there and I am utterly lost and dazed

[velvet vector]

the red one yes

[night dust]

Even as a dwarf main, I am aggregiously upset that the "Amani Appearances" we unlock for darkspear are just 4 skin colors....

At this point if you wanna play a Gurubashi or Amani Troll you're better off slapping the blue-green skin on an orc and dressing him up in troll gear...

[cerulean beacon]

Yeah the fact that they visually updated and changed the amani troll apperance only to make it into skintones for darkspear trolls is just sad

Why not just give us them as an additional race

[night dust]

100% we got Earthen, which were a huge letdown imo, and now furry elves. Give us Amani

[velvet vector]

L-A-Z-Y

these fuckers only do one neutral race now

We used to get one each per faction

now both factions get a fuck dwarf and another elf

What pisses me off the most is that they for sure will add the amani as neutral next patch

so amani troll in the alliance

just kill the lore or let a.i run it

[robust lotus]

Horde would not fit either, didnt we betray them?

[velvet vector]

but they were allies once

and there is an amani tribe in the horde already

and they have other trolls

make more sense and fits

[robust lotus]

Well, you cant betray someone without being an ally first

[left jungle]

Blizzard has said they're working on it, IIRC, it's just they have to rig the Amani models to be playable. We all saw how badly the Haranir launched. I'm willing to bet we'll see the Amani as extra Body Types (3 and 4) by the time the next expac rolls around.

[velvet vector]

Hopefully is body type and not an entire different """"new""" allied race

and neutral at that

and for the record, they can rig the racs to be playable very easy

they did witht he nigthborne

and amani use orc model, already playable

[past moth]

They should make muscular body type for blood and void elves

[velvet vector]

then they stop being elves

[past moth]

Does a man stop being human after taking tren?

No

They upgrade

Like pokemon

[velvet vector]

man is human

elf is not

is like giving trem to a child

[past moth]

Same shit

[velvet vector]

the elves will just piss out or have a heart attack

the ones you see ingame are the most buffed they can get

[past moth]

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-iv-dolph-lundgren-captain-ivan-drago-if-he-dies-he-dies-dies-gif-4956349

[velvet vector]

Warsong

[deft bison]

What shield is that

[velvet vector]

Mok'gol howling shield

[deft bison]

Is it possible to get a significant amount of timewalking currency right now

[gaunt inlet]

That eyepatch puts in work

[simple estuary]

I don't have much mog, so I do with what I can

[velvet vector]

you get 500 for doing the quest

and 200 for doing with alts

but there is no timewalking active atm

[small drum]

you get additional 500 if there is a raid for that TW event as well

[velvet vector]

[night dust]

To be fair; the Amani hate the Horde as much as the Alliance so becoming neutral isn't that much of stretch

[velvet vector]

It is, because in the horde they at least have old alies(orcs) and the zandalari, who basically lord over the rest of trolls

more easy to join that faction

[night dust]

Agree to disagree; with the state of WoW, the faction war hasn't made sense since Wrath but blizz keeps pushing it cause the fans want race-wars. The Alliance has separated from their "anything non-human = evil" mentality and the Horde are no longer barbaric-bloodthirsty-savages so honestly factions barely matter anymore

[velvet vector]

How it doesnt make sense since wrath, did you skiped cata and mop?

[night dust]

Nope, and in both of those expansions the 2 factions largely still came together to topple the greater-BBEG, even and especially at Siege of Orgrimmar where Garrosh went green-Hitler

As they pretty much have in every expansion since Wrath

And then there's a "tenuous peace" with splinter cells forming in both A and H wanting to reincite the faction war

and then we all make-up just in time for the newest cosmic BBEG

Honestly I thought they were gonna make Dark Iron Horde and then Zandos Alliance

[velvet vector]

do you realize they coming together doesnt erase the past right

and the reason why they start the war in the first place

just means something even worse appear so they had to pause

when the problem is resolved

[night dust]

That'd be like me hating Germans because my ancestors are Jewish

[velvet vector]

what do you think they gonna do again

[velvet vector]

that happened 86 years ago, ingame it didnt passed 10

and germany lost troughly and was occupied for years...

The factions just had a cease fire against each other, cause something worse came up

The reasons of why they start fighting are there waiting

[night dust]

So I should hate Pakistanis and Iranians since they're more recent?

[velvet vector]

i dunno, do you?

[night dust]

No, cause I'm not dumb

[velvet vector]

im sure arabs dont like israel today

[night dust]

But the faction war is 🙂

[velvet vector]

[deft bison]

They really should when possible not add in entire factions, but at the same time for the cosmetic aspect, I think people would appreciate your player card saying Amani Troll, in the same way I think void elves are stupider than shit but High Elves are sick

Playable Amani doesn’t need to make sense if they frame it as individuals from them joining the horde, but missing out on unique passives and so on does suck

[cerulean beacon]

Thats the problem since it feels bloated to add a new race that's basically the same as the one we have. but the amani do look more different than the darkspear so it's not farfetched to add them as a new race instead of a costumization option.

And i think lore wise having them as a neutral race is fitting since they hated both factions in the past

[velvet vector]

the bit is that they shouldnt be. the darkspear should have a bulky option as well, since trolls any subrace, can be bulky or skinny. In wc3 they were berserkers, and you find one here and there in WoW as random npcs

[velvet vector]

nah, alliance would never accept trolls after all those years, Horde at least have other trolls to welcome them

Talanji could order them if she wanted

and one amani tribe is already horde

[cerulean beacon]

Yes but in wow darkspears aren't bulky and even in lore they were bullied by the other tribes.

[cerulean beacon]

To be fair the horde wouldn't really be that good of a candidate for the amani either since both factions have had beef with them especially the blood elves

So having them as neutral is the most likely thing

And saying that the horde is where they belong just because they are trolls is just dumb.

[velvet vector]

Like i said, some of them are. blizz just dont use them oftem to make a pattern for the players. they were bullied cause the tribe is small, not cause they are skinny

[velvet vector]

Yeah but again, the horde have their old allies(orcs and goblins), one of their own tribes(revantusk) and the kingdom who they more or less aknowledge as superior(zandalari) and have no beefy(heh) with taurens, they only have a problem with blood elves - which was already more or less in a state of non-agression on sight cause liadrin help them.

In contrast, they hate all the alliance(main races), they dont have anything that could tie them there(like the horde have) and just dont fit thematically

Make zero sense to be neutral

which means

they will be neutral

cause fuck lore, its already in ruins anyway, next is human on horde

[cerulean beacon]

The only real beef they have with alliance races are the humans the other races wheren't even a part of the alliance when they were at war and if you mean back in classic when they attaked zul'aman then the horde should be equally as hated

[velvet vector]

Dwarves and gnomes fought with them as well, and worgens were humans

the amani empire was very vast

Like i said, there is no anchor in the alliance, no race there was friendly or have any ties with them

[cerulean beacon]

In what war did the gnomes and dwarves fight the amani other than the attack on zul'aman?

[velvet vector]

would be just "yeah alliance need to ahve them too", no lore behind

[velvet vector]

second war?

it was orcs, goblins trolls and ogres versus humans, gnomes, dwarves and elves

the battle of blackrockmontain was very famous

[cerulean beacon]

The dwarves and gnomes were in their own holds fighting off the horde forces? the amani were further north

[velvet vector]

we got some flashbacks there

[velvet vector]

nope, they fought below as well

it was in their going north

[cerulean beacon]

that were the gurubashi trolls

[velvet vector]

no, fgurubashi is WAAY down south

like stranglethorn vale

zul'gurub

we talking about blackrock montain

[cerulean beacon]

the horde found the amani when they marched north to lorderon

you know way past blackrock Mountain

[velvet vector]

it was around this place they encounter each other

they send forces south, got blackrock montain

then they went north to attack quelthalas

but, they couldnt

[cerulean beacon]

it was only a small number of amani forest trolls after the second war that were present in blackrock

[velvet vector]

not so small if they are there still today

[cerulean beacon]

And they meet further north

[velvet vector]

pretty sure you frree zul'jin in duernhold keep

durnhold

in wc2 that is

[cerulean beacon]

just because they free one troll dosen't mean they habe the whole faction there? they are still in zul'aman

And the whole questline in zul'aman was to reject the old amani and return to their roots with the loa

[tawdry vigil]

love that

[candid kernel]

pg 13 version

or just not impractical armor lol

[tawdry vigil]

dont love that

[glossy wave]

dont like how the pants look like with all the clipping from front and back and how it looks like without cape

[hot finch]

Reasons for Amani to join the alliance:

• their ancient wars against the elves of quel'thalas
• the horde betrayed them that one time

Reasons for Amani to join the horde:

• the Zandalari are members of the horde
• their new leader is now BFF with a blood elf
• the high elves are members of the alliance, and they may not have changed like the blood elves did
• the amani fought more wars against the alliance than they did against the horde
• the current commander of alliance forces just tried to kill the amani leader's brother
• vicinity to 2 horde capital cities

[candid kernel]

needs a new belt for sure that clipping is awful but the boots are somehow good

maybe i just scrap those pants tbh

[bronze moon]

I would fucking love having Amani as a race

[glossy wave]

on human male

[candid kernel]

unfortunate

[glossy wave]

i think it rocks overall ive been using something similar for a while

[glossy wave]

they could probably get away with amani for horde and arathi for alliance but yeah

[hot finch]

technically arathi are already alliance in a sense since you can make kul tirans and humans with pointy ears i guess

and i gues you can be a skinny amani too as a horde

[storm depot]

Wheres the swords from?

[cerulean beacon]

The amani dosen't really have any reson to just join 1 faction especially since both sides help them atm, The whole questline was to help them get over the wrongs of the past and to forge a new future.

[cerulean beacon]

How would the Sargerei belt look with that? or perhaps a simple leather one

[calm carbon]

Looked at doing a troll hunter/Zul'Aman explorer mog.

[cerulean beacon]

Wouldn't it look better if you only use the amani shoulder on the other side so the chest belt looks to be connected to it?

[calm carbon]

Good suggestion, will play with it.

[candid kernel]

sword is from a prey box I believe, I have my loot spec set to arms. it wasnt an upgrade though so I vendored it

[candid kernel]

the sargerei belt is great but has this big red orange orb so it kinda throws off the overall look

[cerulean beacon]

Yeah the red/orange glow does ruin it a bit but perhaps a simple belt works better?

[chrome bluff]

What is this from?

[rugged imp]

The amani female is the perfect body tbh, shoulda been amani male just more muscled

Amani trolls look like this

Not a stupid hunched troll/orc hybrid

[glossy wave]

facemasks are needed, being hunched aint the worst imo

wc2/3 trolls

was kinda nice to see all the wc2 references in the campaign (even tho they retconned bunch of shit again)

[velvet vector]

together with a horde character

[velvet vector]

they should use this as base, from throne of thunder

and the female this

[velvet vector]

hydrafang blade, drop from one of the rares in eversong

also bulky jungle troll

[native swallow]

he mogs you hard with that chin

[velvet vector]

did an update of my dragon knight set, the chest and legs from the heroic edition of wow goes rly well

cause it have those scales, like dragons

got this belt cause also remind me of scales and it meshes well with the rest, alternative is the aberrus one

draconic avenger still is one of the greastest weapons

[cerulean beacon]

unfortunet that it looks horribly outdated

[hot finch]

annoying that the vendor doesn't sell the Arsenal but does sell the Ensemble

will take an RNG amount of time to collect the pieces we want

[velvet vector]

nah still holds well

jut the lil dragons on top that look funky

[cerulean beacon]

And the blades and details

it looks so outdated

it's a cool axe but it just dosen't hold up

[velvet vector]

dunno, look damn fine to me

[cerulean beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain2-oh-yeah-sunglasses-lensmakers-glasses-opaf-gif-15083536

[cerulean beacon]

Might race change to haranir after the bug fixes

[silver mulch]

pay piggie, level a new warrior

[cerulean beacon]

got work for a reason

[deft bison]

That looks more like an undead transmog

[rugged imp]

That looks like any elf/ z troll race

Orc/dwarf/tauren supremacy

[cerulean beacon]

i kinda like them

[simple estuary]

Wish we could get some bulky model

[wintry dew]

The emperor of mankind

[cerulean beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/more-gold-moregold-gold-orgy-of-the-dead-orgyofthedead-gif-15309593527745736969

We have the emperor at home

[ruby musk]

Looks like 50 shades of grey getting a sequal

Has potential tho!

[native swallow]

that one marshal piece on top of everything else

ooof

could've been really good though if the colors were matching a bit more

[frail fulcrum]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transmogrification/comments/1n5vysn/the_emperor_of_mankind_warhammer_40k/

check that one out, its beautiful just like the God Emperor

[velvet vector]

eeeh maybe not this tabard

but the boots and legs fit rly well with the shoulders+healm

[wooden parcel]

d2 char select screen lookin ahhh

[native swallow]

https://i.imgur.com/euTb8Gq.png

this is killing me

😩

[hot finch]

im glad i dont have CDS, playing this game would be a nightmare otherwise

||(Clipping Derangement Syndrome)||

[wind sorrel]

The only time I have CDS is when my long hair will go through a large collar, but thats fixable with a helmet or a new doo

[hot finch]

okay yeah there are some extreme things even i cant look past xd

[native swallow]

looks like you have CDS

unlucky

[hot finch]

[velvet vector]

hair clipping is fine to me

what pisses me off most i shield+shoulders

and some dumb belts with tabards

[fleet knoll]

Trying an old mog with new weps and female orc. Mostly one set, but i think it looks really nice.

[wind sorrel]

Works pretty well. Not a fan of the helmet choice but do you

[cerulean beacon]

The shoulders kinda work but i think the green variant would be more fitting same with the swords, there are alot of colors mixing grey/blue/green/purple,

[gentle bobcat]

so simple but so beautiful

[versed anchor]

Hello, can I farm for the burning plate of the worldbreaker without an active sub (already unlocked artifact weapon and and read the tablet) ? If I use a character under level 20?

[simple trench]

how do you get sword?

[sweet niche]

i got them from a the box you get from hunting your target

[velvet vector]

what do you guys fit best for the Dragon Knigth?

(codename davius for this set )

[cunning hound]

why are the colors backwards?

[deft bison]

Is this still available, both recolours and base? I wanted the red one

[elfin harness]

with the new warglaive skin for 1h swords and the new passive SMF now fury warrs can cosplay as DHs

look, ima DH dracthyr now

[candid kernel]

ridiculous-ass sword

stayed up all night to get fishjng maxed then just bought it anyways lmao

[surreal barn]

It’s definitely the funkiest thing they’ve made in the vanilla/tbc era

Shits a wacky looking demon skull bolted to a crystal slab where you use a tiny horn spike as the handle

[cunning hound]

been fishing all day lol

but im a mount collector

[frail fulcrum]

i'm really struggling trying to make gold, went enchanting tailoring, after 1 day prices dropped 800%, also was going eng+minning, already some prices went down 400%

[cunning hound]

gore guppies went from 330 earlier today to 230

but I made like 200k from them today

[frail fulcrum]

here enchants i.e. berserk went from 80k to 5k in one day

[cunning hound]

not on us

[frail fulcrum]

i should have gone alchemy haha

[foggy falcon]

Mining is good too

[thorn tundra]

yeah but how many did you sell at 80k?

[frail fulcrum]

none 😄

was missing those darn branches

[thorn tundra]

dont think anyone sold, literally no reason to enchant your weapon atm

[frail fulcrum]

guildie was lucky, sold 4, he was the one that told me about the price drop

[thorn tundra]

werent the roots themselves 20k ea for the first few days, so thats 80k

[peak jackal]

Debating about making my warrior a valkyr. Do you think it's fine or should only pally's be valkyr?

[tired token]

Valkyr belong to odin. Odin belongs to warrior. Valkyr is warrior.

[peak jackal]

👍

[past kettle]

paladins are the useless warriors that need the light to be competitive

[tiny bridge]

What is the item name for these?

[candid kernel]

if you mean the outfit its soul trader helm chest then camo slippers

[haughty egret]

its such a strange item like its brand new but the textures look like they were rendered in 2009

like 480p

[hot finch]

its not brand new

its just now became usable

[haughty egret]

that makes sense, where was it from?

[hot finch]

looks like a BC era item

[haughty egret]

ye

[hot finch]

probably something they had in their files and never used, maybe some npc used it

same for the fishing nether drake mount

[haughty egret]

nice, probs guna be fishing on war between q's so hopfully il get that

[glossy wave]

i think they added in season of discovery first?

theyve been adding old content stuff back for years now like the items you could find in phase diving in season 3

[gentle bobcat]

From the chest reward after a Prey ( its random )

[half lark]

wait, is the 2100 pvp weapons the red ones?

[velvet vector]

cool looking axe

[astral brook]

what's that helm

[verbal pelican]

prowler's snowy mask

[gentle bobcat]

i think trading post

[gentle bobcat]

how do i get that sword

[candid kernel]

is from fishing but also on the auction house

thraun gaming on youtube has a guide for it

[wind sorrel]

Go to a high pop server and its probably pretty cheap on the AH

[candid kernel]

bought mine for 100k on area52

but it was 200k yesterday i probably couldve waited a couple days and it would be even lower

[wind sorrel]

Im not a fan of that abomination of a sword but I did buy the blue horde sword and the cerulean edge for only like 100k for both. Just keep an eye on prices I've seen the rare price of like 13k

my friend saw them super cheap but I was at work

[fading oasis]

bought 1H and 2H elvish swords because it's super cheap tmog early on before it gets rare and prices go up

[wind sorrel]

The longer the xpac goes on the more these swords will be on the AH so patience will pay off

they'll shoot up after midnight though for sure

[fading oasis]

I mean got everything I wanted for 300 gold lol

wanted to try some mix 1H/2H for fury

[wind sorrel]

im being a full set andy with the hunt/prey set. Its very good on orc with the red eyes. I do want good weapons for it though

[cunning hound]

7 pet 0 netherwing egg

[candid kernel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-slot-777-WqFa6icbSpSeD6FO8A

fishing be like

[wind sorrel]

Anyone know if you complete DF sets like Amirdrassil it gives you the rest like they're doing now?

[compact plinth]

Yea, it'll give you ever version below the difficulty of the one you completed

It did it retroactively for one of my df sets

[wind sorrel]

nice thanks

I would assume Amirdrassil normal is soloable now?

[cerulean beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/at-least-you-tried-charlie-smiling-friends-you-gave-it-your-best-shot-adult-swim-gif-140094477150553704

[deft bison]

Do I need to complete the entire dragonflight campaign on an orc to get the wolf cowl

[wind sorrel]

I don't believe so. They made each chapter available just from quests

[deft bison]

Wait

[cerulean beacon]

i think you just need to get to emerald dream

[deft bison]

Ive been grinding this entire long ass campaign

[cerulean beacon]

but im not sure if you need to finish the campaign on one char before you can just skip to it

[deft bison]

I don't know how to do that, I looked it up a while ago and I think the solution wasnt there for me

I got a character boost from midnight but I guess that didnt complete dragonflight idk

[cerulean beacon]

yeah you might need to do the campaign on one char then or you might find the quest in the capital

[deft bison]

Hopefully. Thanks. I just read online you needed to be an orc to loot the item and I almost jumped out the window

[cerulean beacon]

yeah you need to be an orc to loot it only they can use it

but there are a bear version that everyone can use

this head

[vernal slate]

Were those shoulders and helm from an elite set or are they still obtainable? I would never take them off

[wind sorrel]

You SHOULD be able to just talk to Shandris in Valdraken. The quest is called fire season. Shandris is out from the main building with the city portals, up and above the bank.

A few quests and boom you're in the Dream

then just kill the rare

[deft bison]

what is it called?

[cerulean beacon]

Visage of aurostor

[deft bison]

Dude I must be doing something wrong

[cerulean beacon]

i think you should be able to just fly through the big ass portal in ohnaran plains

[deft bison]

It's up but it doesnt work

[cerulean beacon]

that's weird

[velvet vector]

bro want to be horde

just race change

[velvet vector]

hate mogging tabards because of this

[native swallow]

looks like you have CDS

unlucky

[wind sorrel]

Thats an orc thing not a tabard thing

tiny belt syndrome

[cerulean beacon]

nah the class belts clip with tabards

[wind sorrel]

I know but the size bothers me more when its large on most other reaces. IF IT WAS LARGER IT WOULD LAY OVER THE TABARD

sticks out more, fixed.

[velvet vector]

dont think so, these belts cant get over the tabard for some reason

same wya for me goblins

[ruby musk]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-andy-dwyer-whoa-dude-thats-really-slick-slick-thats-slick-gif-27364633

[scarlet shadow]

Boot check

[plush scarab]

ye the boots are kinda eh

[cerulean beacon]

Might change the boots but so far it's good

[verbal heart]

Is there any way to stop my off hand mog from resetting between log outs? If I log out as arms (and maybe prot as well, not sure), login, and then spec swap to fury and put on my fury set, my offhand mog always resets to having no appearance

[cerulean beacon]

Huh this helmet works surprisingly well

[copper sand]

tried to make the abundance cosmetics work
the smf transmog change reeeeeaaly helped here

[cerulean beacon]

the fist weapons feel a bit off might be others that work better

[surreal barn]

Amman'Thul your son has returned! I bring the destruction of Ulduar!

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-god-of-war3-kratos-your-son-has-returned-gif-27160803

[cerulean beacon]

Looks nice with the tattoos and such but the armor kinda works and at the same time dosen't

[surreal barn]

Hes a plant boy, let him wear plants

[cerulean beacon]

Well i mean with the kratos stuff

[surreal barn]

well thats what i mean, its plant boy kratos lol

[copper sand]

i wonder if any of the new harandir swords fit but they haave some weird colorshemes

[surreal barn]

could use the daggers for the "Roots of chaos"

[cerulean beacon]

Yes but im talking about a normal kratos the armor works with it's shape but the plant part dosen't

[humble lagoon]

Final fantasy style i like it

[surreal barn]

its not ment to be normal kratos?

me confuse

[cerulean beacon]

I get that but im talking about if the armor diden't have plant stuff it would be a nice normal kratos

[velvet vector]

lmao

[foggy falcon]

This could single handedly convince me to play Haranir

This is awesome

Twinblades of the Hakkari would work best as a Blades of Chaos look a like

[cunning hound]

free from fishmin

[surreal barn]

Did you get the mount?

[cunning hound]

no but i got the sword free from fishin lol

[surreal barn]

Keep going! There’s a mount in there

[cunning hound]

orly i didnt know lol

[serene monolith]

I’m looking for a good with those
Swords

[copper tinsel]

How do you get that

[verbal pelican]

free from fishin

[cunning hound]

Fish me boyo

[cerulean beacon]

Got inspired by @surreal barn and i tried to make old kratos it's a wip but so far it's looking well

[cerulean beacon]

Huh ngl it worked better on hunter

just unfortunet that the shoulder is on the other side but it works

[hot finch]

kratos sully

do they have night elf casting animations? the night elf male projectile casting animation is the primary reason i can never play that race

at least as a caster :P

[cerulean beacon]

yeah they have the same casting but i do not know about gun/bow animations

[surreal barn]

They have shared animations with nelfs besides there idle animations

[surreal barn]

Just get a bear pet named “Boy”

[cerulean beacon]

Tought a wolf would be more fitting with the norse vibe like fenrir

[surreal barn]

I mean he does literally shape shift into a bear

[velvet vector]

Kratos after the great hunger

[cerulean beacon]

And a wolf?

[surreal barn]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-ragnarok-kratos-atreus-gif-27146714

Not for combat

[cerulean beacon]

still both work

And if i remember right he can turn into a wolf in combat aswell

[surreal barn]

Or you can become plantos and tame a plant

[cerulean beacon]

the god of greens

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-sensei-sensei-wu-elemental-power-gif-15011710505967960889

[surreal barn]

Yeah instead of Ares doing the things it’s Eonar

[cerulean beacon]

champion of gaia

[surreal barn]

It’s the ash of Teldrassil on his skin

[cerulean beacon]

[quaint sage]

It’s a shame the void elf wings are tied to this chestpiece

Because they really make the shoulders look nice

But I hate the collar

[gentle bobcat]

still looks awesome

[cerulean meadow]

Love It

[cerulean beacon]

Wanted to try another version of my coldflame mog

[cerulean meadow]

What do you think? I think it works?

[cerulean beacon]

The head piece feels a little off since everything else is purple/gold but if you like it it works

[scarlet shadow]

why does the new set not have the same colours as the heritage armour

the purple and gold are both different shades

[cerulean beacon]

it's the blizzard classic making armor with different shades

[cerulean beacon]

I really like this helmet and weapon combo with the elit set

[sweet ravine]

cant tell if this is good or bad

[cerulean beacon]

it's very bright

[sweet ravine]

its the auto hdr, my game doesnt actually look like that

[tough harbor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1f8s0af/windows_sniping_tools_now_can_toggle_hdr/

[sweet ravine]

hellllll yeah

thank you!

its not perfect but it is better

[sweet ravine]

here is the less bright one

[boreal plover]

I thought less is more for these weps

[simple trench]

definitely unreleased weapons for classic for tbc

lol

[candid kernel]

le troll

[astral brook]

Woah, can I see the mog link

[deft bison]

Think I need to grab that helmet

[old leaf]

What helm is that ?

[hot finch]

its tier 16 dk helm from siege of orgrimmar

you can get it on pala and warrior too

[cerulean meadow]

it would be nice orc have that attack stance in the game but the set is nice

[gilded relic]

Please post the list boss

[cerulean meadow]

or this is pretty nice i think

[native swallow]

cool

haven't seen those shoulders in a long time

actually more rare than tusks

[ruby musk]

Thats a Nice set made by blizzard, they did a good job on the colors

[pine socket]

U got a List for that by any Chance?

[ruby musk]

Did you play legion remix?

[plush scarab]

Head: Hidden Helm
Right Shoulder: Voidstrider's Mantle
Left Shoulder: Voidstrider's Mantle
Shirt: Hidden Shirt
Chest: Voidstrider's Chestplate
Waist: Voidstrider's Belt
Legs: Sargerei Commander's Voidscarred Chausses
Feet: Blood Knight's Elegant Slippers (Vendor)
Wrist: Voidstrider's Wristguard
Hands: Sargerei Commander's Voidscarred Gauntlets
Back: Hidden Cloak
Main Hand: Manaforge Raider's Tyrant Maul Illusion: Netherflame
Off Hand: Manaforge Raider's Tyrant Maul Illusion: Netherflame
Tabard: Hidden Tabard

[cerulean beacon]

I kinda like this it's just the blue gems and red sash that's a little unfortunet

[ruby musk]

Little voidyboy

[rugged imp]

only way to make this set work now with the ruined shoulders

[cerulean beacon]

it's not that bad

[humble jasper]

i agree; it's worst than before but not bad

also i'm a poor peasant who doesn't have those shoulders 🥲

[cerulean beacon]

Yeah it looks a little off now but it's not that bad

[deft bison]

I wish I had more options

[cerulean beacon]

The chest tabard and boots feel a little too bright but still nice

[deft bison]

What helmet is this, I thought I would be able to find it myself

[cerulean beacon]

It's the paladin head from trading post

might come back next anniversary

[deft bison]

Everything cool is like a year away 😭

Thank you

[cerulean meadow]

The Helm is from Trading was the Paladin set 🙂 sorry for my late answer

Here If you like Sparta moggs 🙂

[inner lava]

went for a corrupted look

[cerulean meadow]

A little bit Bone Tank Mog i love this one

[ruby musk]

https://tenor.com/view/beetlejuice-for-gl-veeme-for-gl-vemee-gif-21865933

[copper tinsel]

better or worse?

[sweet ravine]

here is the list

[past kettle]

Cursed shoulders

[ruby musk]

There is ALOT of colors

[fleet knoll]

rawr

[cerulean beacon]

Not really it's just the metal on the chest and boots that's brighter the rest are part of the set or atleast works with the set

[ruby musk]

well hands felt very off

[cerulean beacon]

i think they are from the same set

Yup same tier

[velvet vector]

i wish it had pixels

they rly need to update old sets more often

[cerulean beacon]

yeah the only nice with the set is the head and shoulders and even they are on the line of looking good and is mostly just nostalgia or status

[ruby musk]

yeah looks off still, my apologies

[rugged imp]

this is a warrior guys

[compact plinth]

Id believe that but for the ashbringer

[wooden eagle]

It's a hell to get that set

[velvet vector]

[gilded relic]

They really need to bring back the chainmail

[candid kernel]

weapon with wraithchill goes pretty hard with this set, troll themed (yes full set)

i tried posting with 3 images and it deleted my message not sure if this channel has limits or what

[cerulean beacon]

not really if you have money

[rugged imp]

I also got this variant

Wish those fists were less green

[cerulean beacon]

i would imagien that the legion elit legs would look better since it looks like you are wearing skin tight leggings

If you are going bulky shoulders you need bulky legs

[rugged imp]

I tried em but the chains on these look cool imo

[cerulean beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/stian-stiannorway-legenden-men-in-tights-tights-gif-23071508

[rugged imp]

Lmfao you cant connect this picture to an ORC

This is every elf/haranir no matter the armor

[cerulean beacon]

tights are tights no matter the race

[rugged imp]

like 80% of pants are tights lol

In the game

[cerulean beacon]

yeah and thats a problem

but blizzard refuse to give us proper armor

[velvet vector]

tights are fine, the problem is socks boots

[cerulean beacon]

yeah they both are bad same with skin tight chest

when i mog i do my best to use 3d armor only since the old and flat armor is just ass

Atleast when i tmog plate

[cold cave]

That mog is fire gj sad that i cant live with a suboptimal racial even though the difference is irrelevant. Velf has some niche uses though

Orc and human are king style and proportion wise imo

[rugged imp]

Orc racial is not that bad, in pvp atleast. And thanks bro

But the day they match barber option to a certain outfit Im deff going maghar

[cold cave]

in PvP indeed. Im looking forward to Amani Troll

[rugged imp]

PvP racials need to just be disabled tbh. Im sick of gnome r1 gladiators

And nelf everything else

Sadly these ppl prolly add alot of money to Blizz pocket for all the race changes

[cold cave]

yeah i can imagine in PvP its extra annoying. Gnome warrior is cursed in every aspect

[ruby musk]

Huh? Amani troll coming?

[cerulean beacon]

They have said that they are thinking of implementing them once they have fixed the code or something

[rugged imp]

They look pretty badass so hopefully its true

[cold cave]

There are signs

[rugged imp]

Zandalari are too regal looking with poopoo run and normal trolls are weak and skinny

[ruby musk]

Ah okay

[velvet vector]

Pretty sure they never said that

[cold cave]

I didnt read that either. There is no official statement afaik?

just there are models and some character creation if im not mistaken

[cerulean beacon]

saw some where that ppl where talking about blizzard saying it but might be wrong then i guess

[ruby musk]

Character thing is just skin color for them

[tawny crypt]

Dingers crossed for amani allied race either in MiD or TLT.

[ruby musk]

All the dingers are crossed

[velvet vector]

hopefully is just customization

and not allied race bs again

Amani cant go to the alliance

[past kettle]

horde gets amani

alliance gets high elf

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-8764636

but blizzard doesnt like it maybe and everyone can be everything today and its vica versa

[rugged imp]

Amani with straight back option

And we reach peak

[glossy wave]

crazy levels of copium atm

[deft bison]

All the new passives are so ass, the amani passive will be like, talk to flowers for 25 seconds 3 minutes cd

[velvet vector]

why the hell would the game introduce the same shit elf a third time

just with a different name

[cold cave]

Passiv: Gameclient goes in Amanimode. Every spell, voiceline is changed for vibes sake

[velvet vector]

thats defeat the purpose of being a troll

only zandalari can do that

[past kettle]

make another suggestion for next allied race

[cerulean beacon]

Sethraks

[tall jungle]

These shoulders would fit so good but they're fucking mail

[past kettle]

or valarjar for ultimate viking feeling

[velvet vector]

for alliance? broken draenei, mogul, Botani, Sethrak, Vrykul

[rugged imp]

Think we all waiting for Vrykul

[surreal barn]

4th time, dracthyr visage is also belf

[rugged imp]

I kinda like haranir as a nelf successor race so hunter/druid only

[cerulean beacon]

yeah vrykul would be nice if they implement them

[rugged imp]

But we need warrior races

Dark iron dwarf was the last PEAK warrior race

[cerulean beacon]

werent dark iron and maghar introduced at the same time?

[wind sorrel]

I don't want races anymore, At least for the next xpac, Give us Haranir Level of Customizations (which they're discussing) for all races.

[cerulean beacon]

That would be nice there are so little costumization for the rest of the races

[random trench]

I already know what i want in terms of race/class combos but blizzard won't add the last horde race i want

If nothing happens after TLT I'm content with what I have

[wind sorrel]

Haranir vs undead. I use undead cuz i was looking at them the other day so its fresh in my head. 1 tab of customizations and they have a reasonable amount.

[rugged imp]

True

But DID fit fury so good

All the glyphs that proc fire etc

Their racial

Maghar are just Grommash and Garrosh cosplayers usually

[wind sorrel]

Big True

[cerulean beacon]

Facts mostly Grommash/Garrosh gooners play maghar XD

[surreal barn]

I only like maghar because I can make a Dragonmaw with em

[cerulean beacon]

98% Grommash/Garrosh gooners 2% ppl vibing with the other clans XD

[wind sorrel]

I did see Rexxar in the Arcantina and made me itch for Mok'nathal again

That coding could open the floor for the Darconids as well

not that I care about them but my friend does and he can't be the only one.

[cerulean beacon]

god i wish dracthyr could have more muscular models like the draconids that would be sick

[rugged imp]

I got a Grommash alt that I like to play sometimes lol

[cerulean beacon]

Like a tauren sized dracthyr

[rugged imp]

But normal orc can be customized so much more

Like 3x the options

[wind sorrel]

Even thats limited but yeah. They should of just opened Orc up to Mag'har customizations.

[cerulean beacon]

Then that would make the mag'har a useless race

[wind sorrel]

Granted we did get a dope ass story out of the Mag'har

[past kettle]

that would have been better yeah

[rugged imp]

Or make tatoos, skin colors and all that separate

[wind sorrel]

Not really, canonically we don't even acknowledge WoD

Just was a means for Guldan to be put back in the story

[rugged imp]

Orcs just look better not green

[wind sorrel]

Besides with that Orc Heritage quests the Mag'har are there.

[rugged imp]

More Lotr-ish

[wind sorrel]

I just like green cuz Im a warhammer head, but also Warcraft they were green for the longest time before the world expanded.

[cerulean beacon]

Yeah they would since that would make it worthless as an allied race other than passives

[wind sorrel]

Im of the opinion they can condense things, make the orc racials like flight, toggle which one you want.

Like the suggestion of broken draenei, just give customizations and a toggle racial as well.

[cerulean beacon]

Yeah would be better to just have things as costumizations and make that they all share "race" so orcs are under orcs and all trolls under troll and such

[wind sorrel]

Yeah, Id agree with you normally but once we got Man'ari I was over it lol

[cerulean beacon]

And save the allied races for the races that do not share with an excisting one like the dracthyr

[wind sorrel]

Man'ari Holy Priests and PAladins.

[wind sorrel]

yeah, allied races should be saved for new ideas.

[cerulean beacon]

And i wish we could choose what race our visage form is as a dracthyr

[wind sorrel]

That would be good.

[cerulean beacon]

Like they say we can choose what ever we want and then they still only let us be twink blood elf and human female like wth

[wind sorrel]

Outside of racials, those people are picking them so it makes sense.

[cerulean beacon]

Just give us the option to choose our race and give us their costumizations with added horns and scales

[wind sorrel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gotem-2

Yeah, I hear what you're saying, but then why play any other race?

[deft bison]

I just dress dwarves up as that. Kul tiran works good too

[cerulean beacon]

if you don't want dragon stuff i guess

just make it so that scales and such are default and can't be removed

[wind sorrel]

I guess, but the racials are pretty good on top of the glide breaking mechanics like knockbacks.

[cerulean beacon]

eh just let us play whatever

[wind sorrel]

Which brings up my other point, active racials should be done away with and put into a spec button specific button.

cuz then play what you want will be a much better argument

[cerulean beacon]

Yeah i feel like racials should just be the pasive ones and removing the active ones

like +10 to herb and shit

[past kettle]

i like my shadowmeld

[wind sorrel]

I appreciate them and what they did. But new era of the game they can be tweaked.

Shadowmeld is a good example why they should go. peopel abused it

[cerulean beacon]

there are potions that does it now

[wind sorrel]

Yeah

And to retain the lore of it, just have it still work BUT make it passive in that it can activate out of combat if they stand still for 3 seconds at night!

Honestly nothing more flavorful than that, Can you imaging like in wc 3 setting up a pvp ambush with that? lol

[cerulean beacon]

yeah just make the stuff out of combat oriented or atleast so that they can't be used in raid/m+ or pvp

[past kettle]

now u got me

but i need shadowmeld alot in m+ for aggro reset

[cerulean beacon]

So they are still there but not utilised for endgame content just flavor

[wind sorrel]

Yeah the second the 1%ers were all night elf if they could be for M+ my argument became more prominent. People would run through the dungeon and all shadowmeld.

[cerulean beacon]

Just add them as potions

[past kettle]

i dont like that idea

what about just make it impossible to get out of combat

[rugged imp]

Its mostly a problem in m+ and pvp

[past kettle]

if u are not rogue, mage or hunter

[rugged imp]

Gnome and nelf are the stinkers

[wind sorrel]

Yeah but race shouldn't be that large of an advantage.

[rugged imp]

You will see 90% of the ladder or more being the S tier race

[wind sorrel]

pretty sure everyone agrees with that.

[past kettle]

yeah race should be just lore and flavor

no advantage

[cerulean beacon]

Why not makes it so that you aren't forced to play one specific race to clear endgame content at high lvls

[rugged imp]

I dont know any mmo with combat advantages to race

[wind sorrel]

There can be advantages in certain situations. But make them passive, the best example is Orc Hardiness.

[rugged imp]

Stuff like dark iron mole machine is a good racial

[wind sorrel]

Yeah

Or human double hearth

[cerulean beacon]

Yeah just make it so that all combat oriented racials are only usable in the open world and not instance content

[wind sorrel]

I like things like rocket boots for goblins, but yeah cutting them off for raid and M+ which is the bulk of the player base would probably retain things and even the playing field.

Man I remember when Lightforged racial would nuke the fuck out of stuff in BFA and would put your dps miles above people on the right pulls and you could just not even try because of it lol

My guild at the time that was pretty competitive with eachother accused me of cheating and saw a couple race changes because of it.

[rugged imp]

Dont forget pvp

1% of the playerbase would play gnome warrior if racials were disabled in pvp

Now its atleast 70% of the top ladder

[wind sorrel]

I'd say Ranked yeah. Disabling stuff would bring it down to skill and gear.

[cerulean beacon]

yeah keep the racials for open world content and disabled for competetive/raid content

[rugged imp]

Yeah keep it for bgs

Or even bg blitz but any arena no

[cerulean beacon]

but not for rbgs only blitz and normals

[wind sorrel]

Yeah I think in this era of the game, just make it class, gear, and piloting be the major factors with how dumbed down the game is.

Would be healthy

For the competitive stuff

[cerulean beacon]

exactly

boils it down to skill/gear and not race

[wind sorrel]

It ultimately opens races to more customization too cuz they don't have to tie racials to it, bringing it back to the original topic and keeping it in line with the channel lol.

Aka more freedom for us moggers.

Cuz then they don't have to make new abilities and they can pump out more cuztomizations

Anyway all that Bullshit aside, why do all the shields suck ass in this game outside the Blackrock bullwark and Bulwark of Azzinoth?

teeny shields

[rugged imp]

TRUE

[wind sorrel]

Rightfully so shields and Orcs don't mix lol

[rugged imp]

only good shield is prot mage tower

[wind sorrel]

Oh yeah that is a good one damn missed it.

[rugged imp]

Orcs look stupid with shield

Just let me look like arms tank like in classic lol

[wind sorrel]

If that were the case I'd not be considering DK lmao.

That would be so sick punching unstead of shield slamming

[rugged imp]

Yeah would look badass

Thunder clap is a stomp anyway

[wind sorrel]

Would also help when arms is shit to keep the fantasy lol which is always!

[rugged imp]

Arms can be good only for like 2 weeks in a season

[deft bison]

You guys can’t say gnome is problematic and say dracthyr is good design. It’s the same shit, giving classes knock backs and stuns is cancer

The actual massive issue with racials is general bs like being a stupid ass gnome is warrior bis and then being a kul tiran is only good on mage when it should be the opposite

[cerulean beacon]

We didn't say that we all mostly agreed that racials should not be present in PVP/M+ or raiding

and only be a flavor for open world content and such

[wind sorrel]

Yeah no one said dracthyr is good design, I just said the racials are too good lol

Their customization is good while twinkish though

[deft bison]

That becomes confusing especially with slottable abilities randomly turning off depending on the difficulty

[wind sorrel]

People would adjust, they always do.

[deft bison]

I would rather them just make the game less aids. Like people like night elf so much because general questing content is so miserable and monotonous

[wind sorrel]

huh?

[deft bison]

There’s nothing quite like grabbing all the quest objectives and then stealthing and flying away to save 4 minutes of your life

[wind sorrel]

Do you play Night elf?

[cerulean beacon]

that has nothing with what we talked about? we said racial stuff should be open world only

seperated from competetive content

[deft bison]

I have a night elf warrior and a partially leveled night elf mage. It’s especially ridiculous on mage leveling

[compact plinth]

I dont find it that bad, I dunno

[deft bison]

If you just google the topic basically every pushback on removing racial passives is basically from how the game is annoying and how night elf fixes it

[compact plinth]

What others think doesn't change my experience lol. Never played night elf. Always had fun >.>

[tough harbor]

Yeah that is a wild take

[compact plinth]

If the only thing sparing your experience is shadowmeld, there's other stuff going on

[deft bison]

If a bunch of casual players didn’t depend on shadowmeld for shit like crafting, why is it still in the game?

[cerulean beacon]

it`s used for high end mythic

[tough harbor]

That question is irrelevant lol

[surreal barn]

People run nightelf for Mythic+ and so they can do some crazy dumbshit in pvp with it

it has nothing to deal with world content lol

[quaint sage]

btw does anyone's game kind of freeze and reload frequently when using the new transmog window

or even just browsing the collection tab

[cerulean beacon]

yeah happens to me aswell it's a pain in the ass

[wind sorrel]

OMFG FINALLY someone else with the problem. There a fix? Its been going on since TWW

[maiden coyote]

You gotta switch to directx11

Instead of 12

[wind sorrel]

Where can I do that

[maiden coyote]

Thats what worked for me

In the settings

[wind sorrel]

In game or the launcher?

Im assuming in game.

[maiden coyote]

Yeah in game in the graphic settings

[wind sorrel]

🙏