#transmog
frail fulcrum
magic pier
Didnt realize we could go all the way down to using daggers, thats cool
wind sorrel
I know this is a meme but is this all plate I feel like this belt is mail no? Also arguably this is what an updated vanilla set of Orgrims armor would look like.
cerulean beacon
I know this is a meme but is this all plate I feel like this belt is mail no? Al...
yeah it's from the mail set
high tulip
i tried creating a Dual wield Mjolnir thor mog
cerulean beacon
or it looks like the mail set one atleast
wind sorrel
yeah it's from the mail set
I rest my case from the other day! That mail belt or mail looking belt brings that set together. Cmon Blizz!
cerulean beacon
i tried creating a Dual wield Mjolnir thor mog
cerulean beacon
I rest my case from the other day! That mail belt or mail looking belt brings th...
agreed would be fun
summer horizon
i tried creating a Dual wield Mjolnir thor mog
This looks just like my Thor mog too! Well done :)
high tulip
show me
high tulip
Did this back in october :)
hahah that's the same :3
its awesome
cerulean beacon
Did this back in october :)
https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-spider-verse-point-pointing-spiderman-meme-gif-7170142648064950183
summer horizon
hahah that's the same :3
its awesome
I am you
magic pier
i tried creating a Dual wield Mjolnir thor mog
could try to find an axe that looks like stormbreaker
cerulean beacon
that's true might be an axe similar like the comic one
ah it was jarnbjorn i tought of
random trench
am i the only one who thinks the set we're getting S1 of midnight kinda looks like an HD T4 although not entirely
velvet vector
I know this is a meme but is this all plate I feel like this belt is mail no? Al...
the belt is mail, but the rest is plate, the gish is that he is using two gloves, two leg and two chest pieces
Orgrin is built different
literally
random trench
velvet vector
i mean
besides the tusks nothing is similar
and the tusks arent similar either, they just have different tusks
random trench
speaking of T4 there are 3 color variants 1 was never available to players
tawny crypt
I see similarity
wind sorrel
speaking of T4 there are 3 color variants 1 was never available to players
SHOW ME
I love the Shoulder and helmet for t4 war. It was peak
random trench
SHOW ME
its the 1st boss from magisters terrace TBC version not midnight
he's wearing everything except the helm
cerulean beacon
i tried creating a Dual wield Mjolnir thor mog
Got a little inspired from this and tried to make a rune warrior, might change it a little but looks fine for now a little off with some of the colors but not to bad.
high tulip
Got a little inspired from this and tried to make a rune warrior, might change i...
you are definately onto something with this one! gj!
maybe it needs a cloak
cerulean beacon
perhaps i just really don't like cloaks
wind sorrel
Looks fine to me. The shoulders and glove I assume are from the head set?
cerulean beacon
yup yup
wind sorrel
Removing the shirt might actually do wonders for it
velvet vector
cant wait tog et midnight set
wind sorrel
I think if you get a black 'brass knuckle' stye for the off hand might look better than a dagger?
native swallow
random belt with blue on it
wind sorrel
The Bladefist is an ugly aqua teal colors but darker I see what hes doing with the belt.
velvet vector
I think if you get a black 'brass knuckle' stye for the off hand might look bett...
im doing a KArgath style mog
he have a hook-like dagger
young glade
isnt there a pirate hook one?
velvet vector
not that look good
velvet vector
random belt with blue on it
theres one red that gits better, i wanted blue cause the dagger and the bladefist have blue-ish
wind sorrel
I feel like his raid fight didn't use the dagger?
velvet vector
in wod is weird
they also swapped the bladefist side
in the artwork is in the right hand
ingame is left
wind sorrel
Its so alternate even he alternates the alternate art
Even the crotch skull exists somewhere.
cerulean beacon
Removing the shirt might actually do wonders for it
shirt?
wind sorrel
mog doesn't have shirt showing where theres black on the elbows?
cerulean beacon
oh that's the chest i think
wind sorrel
yeah if that wasn't there I think it would be really cohesive as is cuz oddly enough the skin tones in the hair and neck fur.
cerulean beacon
yeah if that wasn't there I think it would be really cohesive as is cuz oddly en...
yeah now that you mention it it's a little sad it's there
clever cradle
magic pier
I still want an hd remake of T4.. specifically the pvp coloration
gentle bobcat
Got a little inspired from this and tried to make a rune warrior, might change i...
From where are those boots?
cerulean beacon
From where are those boots?
sepulcher
simple trench
cant wait tog et midnight set
thats how my orc kinda looks like
tired salmon
RF undermine and the nathria PvP recolour goes together so well
cerulean beacon
yeah if that wasn't there I think it would be really cohesive as is cuz oddly en...
This chest works aswell maybe even better
wind sorrel
Def better
cerulean beacon
thought so too diden't have it unlocked so that's why i diden't use it before
velvet vector
pants with the gnarly bones imo doesnt fit with the rest of the valkyrie set/theme, which is pretty great, and since you are so advocate of it, the shade of blue is different as well 
cerulean beacon
yeah i do not like the bone shape but it's fine since it's metal color match the rest but as i said im gonna change it so it's a wip
just took what i had atm
and the tips of the blue are close enough it's just unfortunet that the cloth is so dark so the rest looks much darker
velvet vector
just took what i had atm
where is the boot from, shadowlands last raid right?
cause it fits damn well
cerulean beacon
where is the boot from, shadowlands last raid right?
yeah sepulcher it's from normal or lfr if i remember right
huh the raging tempest legs and feet kinda works well also
summer horizon
'cause you now can have separate tmog for human and worgen form, worgen just became the best race in the game
noble basin
huh the raging tempest legs and feet kinda works well also
thor xmog?
cerulean beacon
what you can? that's actually sick
summer horizon
yeah, with the situations
cerulean beacon
thor xmog?
yeah kinda got inspired when the others posted
summer horizon
noble basin
yeah kinda got inspired when the others posted
Looks great
cerulean beacon
ty ty
cerulean beacon
yeah, with the situations
oh forgot they had that option XD
but i really pray for the day that blizz adds armor tints like in diablo
noble basin
but i really pray for the day that blizz adds armor tints like in diablo
we already have them 
Jokes aside, wow's code simply isn't made for that
noble basin
Tbh I could see blizz deciding "we're doing a dye system for new armor in only the last titan and beyond" if they figure it out
cerulean beacon
yeah i could see that happen i do not think they could do that for older pieces, perhaps dragonflight maybe shadowlands but i don't know about older than that
native swallow
they did a bit of one for player characters and it was a downgrade lmao
primal swallow
cerulean beacon
very nice but i don't like the shoes other than that i like it
primal swallow
Yeah I was looking for shoeless wraps for feet
cerulean beacon
Yeah I was looking for shoeless wraps for feet
perhaps the sandals from the kyrian aspirant set?
primal swallow
perhaps the sandals from the kyrian aspirant set?
Which one is that?
primal swallow
I actually liked the 2nd option u put
magic pier
This chest works aswell maybe even better
I liked the fur part from the previous one, think the nathria plate set might work? Cause then you'd get both the fur and the chinguard in the front.
night dust
Thinking of using a fist with my wildhammer mog
random trench
Thinking of using a fist with my wildhammer mog
night dust
Godddddddddd I'm so hapy to have 1handers again
simple trench
fist weapons are superior
acoustic kayak
velvet vector
what the fuck
night dust
Wha... how even.... hwat
scarlet shadow
Crazy creativity lmao
frank helm
Wow realy nice that shoulders we can become i mean actually we can farm it ?
errant lily
native swallow
summer horizon
Just.... WOW!
main gale
the guy she said not to worry about. transmog addition
cerulean beacon
I liked the fur part from the previous one, think the nathria plate set might wo...
unfortunetly the colors of the nathria chest diden't blend well but if they did i would have used them in a heart beat i love the nathria mog
lone edge
I can finally mog these swords.
rugged imp
daily reminder to HD this mf armor
native swallow
I can only see it happening because of the ugly banana alliance version people seem to like more than the horde one for some reason
why I think it's not happening is because we've already got the Oathsworn set
rugged imp
the alliance is way uglier than this imo
cerulean beacon
yeah the banana one is ugly
frail fulcrum
wich banana? paladin MC banana or PvP ranked banana? 😄
But even if i like the banana ranked i agree, it needs and hd version, they even gave us the helm on the trading post
cerulean beacon
wich banana? paladin MC banana or PvP ranked banana? 😄
But even if i like the ...
pvp banana one
should have been obvious since we are talking about the horde one
tawny crypt
I can finally mog these swords.
Cool swords
copper sand
this helmet has ages pretty well
it still looks great
small drum
i mean the NE glaives we got in DF iirc
the racial ones? yeah
velvet vector
this helmet has ages pretty well
it still looks great
i think the dragon boots might fit better, cause yeah the set aged well
too bad we didnt got a higher model in df
cerulean beacon
would have been cool if we got an updated version it's a cool armor
velvet vector
sucks we didnt got the black dw version
copper sand
tbf antorus one is kind of a remake
wind sorrel
at this point Id be okay if they let us vote and just visually update bangers.
for raid tiers
or 1per xpac
cerulean beacon
something that would have been nice is if blizz made so that we could buy an upgraded tierset from each expansions timewalking vendor for like 5k badges
wind sorrel
or update and shop them for 10 bucks theyd make bank
cerulean beacon
or update and shop them for 10 bucks theyd make bank
yeah but that would be annoying XD
would be better if they stopped with the store mogs and just gave them as trading post rewards
cerulean beacon
like they did the warden set perhaps
jaunty phoenix
velvet vector
i think you should just use the chest piece of the set anyway
the gold kinda take away from the cool red
cerulean beacon
yeah unfortunately that set dosen't really have any good pieces to mix with since blizz has like only made 2 sets with that color scheme and they are both elit sets
wich sucks because red and black is clean as hell
velvet vector
you can mix with the blackrock set from the garrison
the colors match 1;1
just not the theme
cerulean beacon
would like if blizz made more sets in a similar color and not different shades that are almost the same but one is alot brighter while the other is much darker
copper sand
the cheest piece doesnt have any red on it so theres that
cerulean beacon
yeah feels weird going with almost a full set but changing the chest to a gold colored piece granted the nathria set chest is banger
jaunty phoenix
the black fur from the chest just fills out so much better
cerulean beacon
yeah the black fur looks great but that gold chest piece ruins it unfortunetly but if you like it go for it
frail fulcrum
pvp banana one
i zug zug, dont make me us me brain
cerulean beacon
i zug zug, dont make me us me brain
Gotta zug zug
velvet vector
just doing some wq with alts from lemix
and i get new armor pieces, obv better
i already feel how this new mog system is so much better
traded so many pieces and didnt had to waste gold on mog
cerulean beacon
I really like how these legs/waist/feets theme looks with the rest but the slight off color of the metal makes me sad
velvet vector
i think these legs work with the older boots+belt
velvet vector
yep better, personally not a fan of the white fur, but oh well.
Until they give us the option to dye armor
but i think fur combines more with the theme
cerulean beacon
if i add the chest with white fur it matches a little better and fits the vikin/norse theme better
frail fulcrum
im really inclined to get this but i want to pay dimensius mythic carry for the mount as we only did 2 bosses with ze guild
velvet vector
if i add the chest with white fur it matches a little better and fits the vikin/...
if it doesnt clip with the tabard is aces
velvet vector
im really inclined to get this but i want to pay dimensius mythic carry for the ...
get what?
cerulean beacon
if it doesnt clip with the tabard is aces
in game there isn't any clipping it's just wowhead hijinks
frail fulcrum
the store transmog mumin is showing parts of
cerulean beacon
i held back in getting it but caved and finally got it
hate that it's a store mog but damn if it dosen't look sick
frail fulcrum
it works really well with pally and warr mogs
cerulean beacon
im gonna use this for mountain thane
frail fulcrum
and as i'll probably main pally again on S1 i already have some ideas for it
cerulean beacon
fits like a glove
frail fulcrum
i want the hood for a tyrael mog, i've seen some and it looks darn good
cerulean beacon
oh yeah saw ppl do tyrael mogs when the set released and almost bought it then XD
frail fulcrum
i think i'll buy it by the end of the month once i get paid
cerulean beacon
that's what i did this month XD
cerulean beacon
yeah but atleast you get like 4 sets and a bunch of weapons
i still think the price is high but i kinda get why
frail fulcrum
thats the thing why i would buy it, its 4 sets+weapons of all kind so its kinda worth it
velvet vector
only a few pieces of the set
cerulean beacon
yeah some of the weapons look ass
frail fulcrum
the weapons dont interest me
a true warrior would never say that
imposter
cerulean beacon
but too be fair it's like 10eur more than a normal tmog so it's kinda worth it
velvet vector
a true warrior would never say that
imposter
its just too flufly
angelic
not my style of warrior
not even a badass 2h axe or sword
frail fulcrum
i like the shield
velvet vector
cerulean beacon
yeah the shield looks nice
velvet vector
i got this on karesh now, its quite nice recolor
but they didnt bother to change the color effect
cerulean beacon
this off-hand i also like
velvet vector
that is pretty cool
cerulean beacon
yup too bad that i don't play any class that uses them
rugged imp
the current elite is STILL not fixed
cerulean beacon
i think that was their "fix"
frail fulcrum
yup too bad that i don't play any class that uses them
one day we will be able to use off-hands as shields
theres a lot of OH that look amazing, like librams
i want to wield a fish on my right hand and a giant book on the left while i smack my enemies
cerulean beacon
would be fun to wield two shields
cerulean beacon
would be very fun to charge and bash someone with a big ass shield like the bulwark one
frail fulcrum
when you max out defense so much it becomes an offensive stat
cerulean beacon
they will brake against my shield
Just imagien playing pvp and charging into the healer or caster like that but with 2 big as shields
acoustic kayak
velvet vector
some tribal taurens 
chrome bluff
I feel like they adjusted the gold's on the predator stuff, it now matches the sindorei heritage perfectly
hot finch
blue gems kinda annoying tho tbh, I dont like this sindorei rebranding they be doing. cool mog tho
oak forum
I feel like they adjusted the gold's on the predator stuff, it now matches the s...
Prepatch or Midnight stuff ?
wind mica
random, but i think this is probably the best place to ask,
im trying to finish the s1 dragonflight set and i just need the cloak, but the catalyst wants to give me dk tier for some reason?
anyone seen this and is there any other way to get this cloak? dont think the warrior version drops anywhere
pulsar tapir
I finally got my hands on a Blackrock bulwark for peak Dwarf tank. 
velvet vector
blackrock? the orcish clan?
robust lotus
Nah, the mountain
pulsar tapir
Yarp. Just the best looking tower shield the size of a Dwarf in the game. Few shields that are held in that angle by characters.
night dust
I finally got my hands on a Blackrock bulwark for peak Dwarf tank. <:Prayge:8468...
Iron Hill dwarves go brrrt
elder berry
I finally got my hands on a Blackrock bulwark for peak Dwarf tank. <:Prayge:8468...
This looks amazing! Very jealous of that shield lol been trying to get it to drop forever.
quick fox
i'm not a big fury fan, but the transmog changes are very nice
I saw you playin’ fury having fun don’t be ashamed to convert
tough harbor
I only hit the dummies with it
warm sinew
warm dome
Can anyone recommend a weapon to match the Troll Heritage set, please?
warm dome
really? what's it called?
hot finch
warm dome
many thanks!
noble basin
random, but i think this is probably the best place to ask,
im trying to finish ...
Try df's catalyst?
echo marsh
the maces look cool and goofy as hell XD
i forgot, but those weapons came with the store set, right?
cause man oh man, do i have an idea with that weapon
the wod CM shield
wind mica
Try df's catalyst?
I did, same result unfortunately. Even tried to catalyze on my dk to see if it would give me warrior appearance no luck there either, tried all 4 cloak variants
Think it’s just bugged and the set can’t be completed now
cerulean beacon
Think it’s just bugged and the set can’t be completed now
I checked and seems like it's a bug with the primal storm gear and there isn't any fix as of now unfortunetly
so if you want to get the cloak you need to do the raid
cerulean beacon
cause man oh man, do i have an idea with that weapon
Look forward to see what you cook up
hot finch
did you check he really is a worgen
velvet vector
velvet vector
fucking cheater
velvet vector
these are hella cool onehanded axes
main gale
these are hella cool onehanded axes
aren't they the primal gladiator one handed axes? (to clarify)
velvet vector
aren't they the primal gladiator one handed axes? (to clarify)
i think so, from wod
main gale
yeah i'm pretty sure it's wod season 1
main gale
i love how they look so primitive and tribal
true and also a bit barbaric in the blade and handle
cerulean beacon
true and also a bit barbaric in the blade and handle
exactly they are perfect for berserker/barbarian mogs
main gale
those two-handed ones just look like giant meat cleavers they're soo cool imo
wind mica
so if you want to get the cloak you need to do the raid
The warrior appearance cloak doesn’t drop from any boss that I can see
Or you think a raid cloak with catalyze properly over the primal storm gear?
cerulean beacon
Or you think a raid cloak with catalyze properly over the primal storm gear?
exactly the cloak from raid will catalyst anf the primal gear is bugged
high tulip
Avatar Turning you gray looks very good on this mog :3
cerulean beacon
Avatar Turning you gray looks very good on this mog :3
random trench
Avatar Turning you gray looks very good on this mog :3
Your neck disappeared
surreal sluice
Avatar Turning you gray looks very good on this mog :3
I think this struggles with legs and boots
T3 boots look sick but the res prolly aint it
pearl mist
Avatar Turning you gray looks very good on this mog :3
WOW
THAT IS JUST INSANE
that is prob the best god damn set ever how
wind mica
exactly the cloak from raid will catalyst anf the primal gear is bugged
Ok thanks, I’ll have to wait until reset but I’ll keep trying in raid
mystic drift
quaint sage
I like it
past kettle
Daggas
cerulean beacon
yeah the toes takes it down a couple of lvls on the cool scale
misty sequoia
cerulean beacon
nice i did a similar before but i used another belt and legs to not make it 4 of the same, nice to see something similar
velvet vector
Haters will say it's a full mog
foggy falcon
https://tenor.com/view/its-because-it-is-explaining-making-clear-dwayne-johnson-...
look closer
velvet vector
look closer
cerulean beacon
look closer
it is a full set 4 pieces=full
cerulean beacon
belt clipping is annoying
misty sequoia
its fine to have a better looking full set
foggy falcon
blissful pendant
if he changes the belt it becomes ok though
river glen
Any idea where this is from? Looks sick
quick fox
Any idea where this is from? Looks sick
New PvP stuff
cursive salmon
Good thing we can use daggers now the broken sword could be sick
compact plinth
4 pIeCes iS a FuLl sEt
Same dudes on about 4 pieces being a set post shit with 4 pieces. Fuck those nerds lol
tough harbor
The most insufferable people tbh
compact plinth
The tism manifests in countless ways tho, gotta let em do what they do
velvet vector
Same dudes on about 4 pieces being a set post shit with 4 pieces. Fuck those ner...
source needed
compact plinth
Fren, I ain't scrollin your cliches for evidence
cerulean beacon
i mean a full set is like 7 pieces so having 4 is almost like having a full set
velvet vector
Fren, I ain't scrollin your cliches for evidence
i mean, why claim something if you cant prove
and there isnt problem in posting full set, its just fun to joke about it
past moth
Full sets better than your terrible sets syeg
velvet vector
Full sets better than your terrible sets syeg
velvet vector
https://tenor.com/view/opnion-reject-gif-25928607
white rock
Full set or custom set.
As long as you like it. Thats all that matters
cerulean beacon
yup use what you like
silver mulch
True, but you don't need to go around posting full sets in transmog channels 😅
That would be like going around UI channels posting the default blizz UI without addons.
main gale
is there anything i should change in my transmog?
undone ridge
if u like it then no
quaint sage
Sometimes it’s like a cool achievement thing to post a full set too
When people get their elite set, or T3, or just finishing farming something they like, as examples
I like those posts
But generally prefer to see the creative things people come up with
cerulean beacon
is there anything i should change in my transmog?
The hat looks a little off with the metal armor but if you are going for a pandaria knight theme it fits but perhaps another belt?
patent tundra
I like this s**t idk
surreal sluice
No tabard?
compact plinth
I like this s**t idk <:greenbear:729127145963651092>
Goofy, eccentric, rad
lone inlet
cerulean beacon
nice but i would probably use another helmet the green gem and yellow glow feels a little off. Do you have the helmet that's the same set as the boots? Thats the one i used.
but i like the red shoulder and chest looks clean
lone inlet
nice but i would probably use another helmet the green gem and yellow glow feels...
I felt the same way about the helm gem. There were some other helms that I had picked out but I wasn't feeling to strongly about them. I'll go back with a fresh pair of eyes.
cerulean beacon
I felt the same way about the helm gem. There were some other helms that I had p...
This is the one i used it fit very well with the rest
quaint sage
Nice trick you can do with Fury now where if you put a discrete fist-weapon with a flashy enchant on your off-hand it kind of envelopes your hand in the effect
velvet vector
is there anything i should change in my transmog?
if it was me, i would change the belt, too big and kinda out of place with the style
quaint sage
I used felshatter here but primal fire works well too
timid mantle
this sword looks dope
cursive salmon
I like this s**t idk <:greenbear:729127145963651092>
Very sweet
half hatch
hello everyone! can anyone help me craft ?
molten terrace
Most sets only look good when you put together 2 sets
Vast majority of transmogs are buns
cerulean beacon
Most sets only look good when you put together 2 sets
That's what makes it impressive when ppl manage to mix multiple sets into something new
molten terrace
That’s rare tho
Even when ppl do items have different textures and look weird
It’s blizzards fault
Cause they make items with 1% difference in tint or same color completely different texture
cerulean beacon
it's not that rare but i agree it's hard to make anything "new" with how bad blizz makes armor colors
they have multiple tints of colors and mix and match them willy nilly and it's sometimes hard do match
velvet vector
That’s rare tho
saved i have those that have one piece of different sets
molten terrace
Idk I feel like a lot of the original mobs in her look pretty bad, not saying I make amazing mobs but it’s just amount of armor available issue
velvet vector
have a few more but i cant be sure if there are 2p unles si look ingame
molten terrace
No offense to those mogs but those items just don’t match
molten terrace
IMO having 2x or 3x of multiple sets just meshes together in making mogs
velvet vector
No offense to those mogs but those items just don’t match
Maybe its just a you thing, the first is straight up blademaster-samuro mog and the other is my mock-up garrosh/grom warrior
at best you can talk about the belt color in the second one not matching perfectly, but its the model that fix it
cerulean beacon
IMO having 2x or 3x of multiple sets just meshes together in making mogs
some mogs work well together but i agree that it's hard mixing some
surreal barn
the true blade master mog
velvet vector
apparently someone did the same mix i did before with another sword and belt
so yeah saying they dont match is nuts
what i want is those sandals
i think the beach theme mogs from the trading posts have then
quick fox
I don’t think they did. I was looking for sandals.
velvet vector
I don’t think they did. I was looking for sandals.
they have those
but i mised the dark and red ones
molten terrace
apparently someone did the same mix i did before with another sword and belt
Idk I don’t think the belt, gloves or pants match together
molten terrace
And the grom one I feel like the boots,pants and belt just aren’t the vibe
native swallow
Syeg will conquer Azeroth in crocs
velvet vector
Romans conquered the world in sandals
it was a very small world
wind sorrel
saved i have those that have one piece of different sets
I know its a hassle but if you have a paladin and go back and get these belts. They do work for the mid section of Blade Master Mogs.
From the back is where it really really puts in work.
I did a undead blade master with the season 3 DK pants and the blue belt from this and it worked out great imo.
Just a suggestion from a fellow Blade Master enjoyer.
pants are from DF cosmetic sets per flight.
velvet vector
pants are from DF cosmetic sets per flight.
i think they are too stone-ish but the red can work
does warrior can use them?
wind sorrel
Everything posted is all cosmetic. Wrist are the only unknown but im pretty sure theyre cosmetic as well but there are plenty of wrists like them
Oh belt
I used the belt on dk so I would assume warrior is the same
wind sorrel
Im fairly certain outside the greyish pale purple one there is a necklace for each
pearl juniper
how do you get the 1h weps to save to your outfits? mine seem to not work
cerulean beacon
i think they are too stone-ish but the red can work
the red one is their elit
cerulean beacon
ye red and purple
velvet vector
i stay with the asian ropes
frail fulcrum
apparently someone did the same mix i did before with another sword and belt
you're missing the most important part, Samuro pierced nipps
velvet vector
i dont have the strenght to do that
neon aspen
I know its a hassle but if you have a paladin and go back and get these belts. T...
What’re the rest of the items in this?
summer horizon
What’re the rest of the items in this?
it's pretty much this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Transmogrification/comments/18wvd7a/updated_orc_blademaster/
austere sedge
cerulean beacon
Tried to make guts from berserk not the best but it's the closest i can get doing it on my phone.
might be hard to see took screenshots from my phone
main gale
Tried to make guts from berserk not the best but it's the closest i can get doin...
that's honestly well done imo, great job it looks really cool
cerulean beacon
that's honestly well done imo, great job it looks really cool
thank you i might make some changes once im home but i think it turned out well
shut owl
Every day I log on my Warrior, I get really sad when I see the state of my shoulders, especially since I really like this set 🙁
surreal sluice
I doubt itll change till wow 2
rugged imp
Ruined set
wind sorrel
Play tauren and you'll be fine 
split harness
Every day I log on my Warrior, I get really sad when I see the state of my shoul...
Use the demonic elite set shoulders
shut owl
Use the demonic elite set shoulders
sadly dont have those
glossy wave
Every day I log on my Warrior, I get really sad when I see the state of my shoul...
Easily ruined the set for no reason
velvet vector
Tried to make guts from berserk not the best but it's the closest i can get doin...
its baffling they didnt make something more berserk related yet
but its a cool mash up
this reminded me that now with one handed fury i can attempt young kratos again
cerulean beacon
its baffling they didnt make something more berserk related yet
indeed would like more low fantasy/berserk mog pieces
gentle bobcat
Tried to make guts from berserk not the best but it's the closest i can get doin...
from where is the right shoulder?
cerulean beacon
from where is the right shoulder?
wrath pvp
gentle bobcat
🙁
gentle bobcat
you can buy it still
this?
i got this but the shoulder in his picture looks different no?
cerulean beacon
it's the deadly gladiator
cerulean beacon
perhaps that version isn't available ithe the ornamented version
heavy flume
could be because its paladin shoulders
cerulean beacon
ah that might be the case
gentle bobcat
Traitor Mog
quaint sage
I used these for my Guts mog
Feel like it captures the kind of stagger-stepped plates on his shoulders
cerulean beacon
I used these for my Guts mog
nice choice with the belt and chest but the shoulders are far too bulky
wish blizz could add more dark/low fantasy mogs
frail fulcrum
you know, there's hate for full mogs but trading post looking good on february, mummies alive are back on the menu!
cerulean beacon
damn thats clean will be fun to try to mix with that
muted schooner
I like the helm not sure about the rest
shell ingot
https://tenor.com/view/army-of-anubis-2001-the-mummy-returns-universal-fire-gif-18416707765199914447
surreal barn
you know, there's hate for full mogs but trading post looking good on february, ...
What race would wear the best is the question
muted schooner
What race would wear the best is the question
Night elf male, or zandalari trolls I’d say
surreal barn
Zandalari wearing it as spoils of war after Uldum got nuked
frail fulcrum
What race would wear the best is the question
need to answer that? gnome supremacy
surreal barn
native swallow
death to gnomes
velvet vector
Tried to do a Kratos here, but its hard to get a good shoulder piece for the golden fleece 
buoyant shuttle
I believe Kratos wasnt green guy with derpy haircut
velvet vector
I believe Kratos wasnt green guy with derpy haircut
i cant make myself white boy
and i aint going bald
what matter is the cosplay
molten terrace
velvet vector
they brought the blue varian set again
and nothing about the red one
goddamit
they even brought the red sword together with the blue one
inner bolt
you know its going to be on the store
velvet vector
you know its going to be on the store
both were in the store i think
they removed them and put the blue on trading post
inner bolt
ah
usually they go one through in game stuff, one through trading post and one on the store
molten terrace
Did they release the blue and black records for the bronze beard set they had in the traders post
Recolors*
velvet vector
Dunno which one you speak off
molten terrace
velvet vector
dont think so no
next urchin
Did they release the blue and black records for the bronze beard set they had in...
The black one was a reward doing brewfest
The blue hasn;t came out yet
surreal barn
Lies?
Off pieces of the set don’t count for the collection
It all has to be proper tier shadowlands onwards
velvet vector
Off pieces of the set don’t count for the collection
but its 9/9 how it doesnt count 
i turn the chest piece who was already the mog into tier and it worked
such weird system
cerulean beacon
Tried to do a Kratos here, but its hard to get a good shoulder piece for the gol...
where are the red tattoos?
velvet vector
where are the red tattoos?
i didnt went into the barber
otherwise i woul go bald for the shot
velvet vector
i vibe with this mount now
zero patience to fetch the goblin bruiser atire to finish this up
but i will do it someday
cerulean beacon
that mount is very nice
velvet vector
it was a pain in the ass to get
native swallow
did you know it explodes critters when you mount up close to them
and has 3 different engine sounds
rugged imp
What is that from ?
buoyant shuttle
So I tried something, IMO this is +- as close as you can get
velvet vector
So I tried something, IMO this is +- as close as you can get
close to what
Kratos? he need the sandals and the blades
I though in using this pants, but it looks weird with other belts clipping
buoyant shuttle
I mean, he doesnt have sandals really and yes, those pants clip af
cerulean beacon
So I tried something, IMO this is +- as close as you can get
very nice perhaps other blades but other than that it's clean
velvet vector
I mean, he doesnt have sandals really and yes, those pants clip af
first game was sandals with those copper plates bellow the knee, this is more of a god of war 3 thing
its this one that he gets the hermes shoes too
buoyant shuttle
first game was sandals with those copper plates bellow the knee, this is more of...
ah, k, never really played GoW so this is what I based it from
native swallow
What is that from ?
TWW meta achiev
rugged imp
Bah thats long af
frail fulcrum
I used these for my Guts mog
wind sorrel
Can survival mog weapons like warriors? DW and twho handers?
hot finch
I dont think so no, but im pretty sure enh shaman can mog daggers now, and all rogue specs can mog between daggers and 1h afaik. it seems they basically normalized daggers and one handers together from what I can gather
surreal barn
Yeah if your class can use a dagger, they can mog it now
It is now in the same category as all other 1h weps
pliant scroll
what dagger transmog goes best with thunderfury
undone ridge
ball sack dagger
frail fulcrum
what dagger transmog goes best with thunderfury
lightninganger
pliant scroll
lightninganger
da fuk is that
frail fulcrum
a drop from the mind goblin
velvet vector
i went bald because of this cosplay
these weapons are imo the eprfect blade of chaos
and old man kratos
frail fulcrum
too green
noble basin
i went bald because of this cosplay
actually pretty good
cerulean beacon
and old man kratos
i would skip the shoulder and just go for the pelt, the soulder looks too buljy
native swallow
no mustache? gtfo
velvet vector
i would skip the shoulder and just go for the pelt, the soulder looks too buljy
we only have bulky shoulders in this game
or at least as orcs lol
velvet vector
no mustache? gtfo
cant grow one
surreal barn
no mustache? gtfo
Haranir are gonna become the best for kratos mogs when they come out
Ash white skin ✅
Red tattoos on the face ✅
Bald with beard ✅
velvet vector
Haranir are gonna become the best for kratos mogs when they come out
yeah but no one gonna play them
velvet vector
Most elf players which is 80% of the playerbase
cap
they will make some druids
and go back to their main
night dust
Unfortunately he's mostly right; Belf and Nelf are the most played races, constituting 14% and 13% of characters, respectively. Next closest is Human at 9%
velvet vector
Unfortunately he's mostly right; Belf and Nelf are the most played races, consti...
i know that
thats why im saying they will not change the race they like
surreal barn
And haranir are not only better looking nelfs
velvet vector
to elves whoa re furry
surreal barn
but they can be on horde
night dust
I would not say better looking, but to me that's comparing a pile of coke/mana-addicted poop to furry poop
quaint sage
thats why im saying they will not change the race they like
I’m an elf enjoyer and I agree
night dust
quaint sage
Not really interested in Haranir
surreal barn
I would not say better looking, but to me that's comparing a pile of coke/mana-a...
you can deadass make then look like a nelf
night dust
Now if we get the Amani and they're Neutral lets GO
velvet vector
Like, honestly speaking, how often do you think people change their main
night dust
you can deadass make then look like a nelf
But why would anyone want to look like a nelf?
velvet vector
a lot of people kinda grow attached to their characters, is more than just looking
surreal barn
But why would anyone want to look like a nelf? <:keks:936231610850897992>
elf players thats who
smelly
night dust
Like, honestly speaking, how often do you think people change their main
Tbf when I was maining a paladin, I was race changing between Tauren, Human, Dwarf, Draenei at least twice a year if not more
velvet vector
the elves have a lot of representation in the story, a lot of lore, a lot of cosmetics, existed since vanilla; People will be draw to those things
velvet vector
Tbf when I was maining a paladin, I was race changing between Tauren, Human, Dwa...
Whcih i do think there will be some race changes, and new characters leveling
but when the dust sets
they will go back
night dust
Generally do. Always trying the new thing and then the dust settles
surreal barn
I mean i play on a RP realm (at least on horde side) and its a elf hellscape in that place
night dust
I don't hardly ever see Earthen anymore
night dust
I mean i play on a RP realm (at least on horde side) and its a elf hellscape in ...
ew
The elf-hellscape, not the RP server. I started in an RP guild wayyyy back in Vanilla
surreal barn
The elf-hellscape, not the RP server. I started in an RP guild wayyyy back in Va...
REAL
night dust
According to the same census site, Earthen are.......... 0.4% (A) and 0.6% (H) making them a whopping 1% of the characters,while Mechagnomes are 0.9%
Earthen just barely beat them out lol
Earthen are technically only higher than mechagnomes and Neutral Pandaren (beacuse N Pandas are 0.0% lol)
quaint sage
Dwarves can use all the Earthen tmogs right
quaint sage
So just playing a regular dwarf or dark iron gets you more net total tmog I suppose
surreal barn
So just playing a regular dwarf or dark iron gets you more net total tmog I supp...
hell yeah it does
quaint sage
Not much incentive to be earthen then
night dust
They still haven't released the red variant of the dwarf tmogs and I'm very angry about that
surreal barn
They still haven't released the red variant of the dwarf tmogs and I'm very angr...
or the purple/gold
surreal barn
the proper black one
native swallow
Now if we get the Amani and they're Neutral lets GO
i saw something about og trolls getting amani troll appearance options
native swallow
the elves have a lot of representation in the story, a lot of lore, a lot of cos...
nobody cares about their lore
it's the most played races because they appeal to gooners the most
surreal barn
velvet vector
more of reason that they will not race change
especially when their voices are cheap troll rip-off
cant goon to that
surreal barn
You lack vision
night dust
i saw something about og trolls getting amani troll appearance options
Dangit, I'd love some Amani in the Alliance. Zul'jin hated the Horde after they took in the Belves
surreal barn
Dangit, I'd love some Amani in the Alliance. Zul'jin hated the Horde after they ...
yeah but the ancestors of human RAVAGED the hell out of the forest trolls
Humans are #2 on the amani hate list
night dust
Hell I'd make a second fury warrior with fist of the deity as an Amani lol
surreal barn
I have 0 knowldge of the actual story of midnight but im pretty sure the amani are "friendly" with us is the hordes connection to the zandalari
night dust
Probably, I know the Amani are going to be a rep faction
Which I am okay with cause trolls are my second favorite race
frail fulcrum
tbh the best depiction of peak human is in ESO high isle trailer with the Breton fighter parrying a fking caster and fist fighting a Nord
night dust
10/10 spell-parry
cerulean beacon
Playing human fighter is the only right answer when playing a fantasy rpg
frail fulcrum
that reminds me, i need to change the race of my warr to what it originally was, human
bye Zug Zug, welcome "Well met"
also OG humans lore during the Amani empire
cerulean beacon
also OG humans lore during the Amani empire
noble basin
tbh the best depiction of peak human is in ESO high isle trailer with the Breton...
Literally that trailer is the only good thing to come out of ESO
frail fulcrum
Literally that trailer is the only good thing to come out of ESO
the ascendant lord carried ESO, but the game till the 2nd expansion was still an elder scrolls game, now its just a wanna be WoW that got lost mid road
night dust
https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disappointed-disgusting-disgusted-looking-gif-...
Ya'll got elves, give us some trolls
frail fulcrum
Ya'll got elves, give us some trolls
we have regular human, we have fat human, we need skinny and buffed humans
velvet vector
Ya'll got elves, give us some trolls
we didnt want elves
and the amani are arch nemesis of the alliance
#rememberthetrollwars
#AmaniNeverDIE
#Thisisourland
night dust
I mean, they were just as pissed off at the Horde for taking in leaflovers so it's anyone's game at this point. THey can hate us equally and be Neutral lol
As Zul'jin once said
"I hhhhate you. I hate you all."
velvet vector
I mean, they were just as pissed off at the Horde for taking in leaflovers so it...
they dislike the horde cuz they sided with the elves a few years ago, the alliance was fighting trolls since 10 thousand years
the alliance doesnt want then either
night dust
The Scotts and Irish (my ancestors) still hate the British, they're (mostly) copacetic now
night dust
the alliance doesnt want then either <:KEKW:752054895275802634>
You're right, we don't want more elves. GIVE US SOME AMANI BRUDDAHS
velvet vector
The Scotts and Irish (my ancestors) still hate the British, they're (mostly) cop...
its not a grudge of ten thousand years
like, the humans had a weapon made to kill trolls
night dust
Potato tomato
night dust
Yeah but they're like the Stormpikes, barely relavent anymore
velvet vector
either way, they already are going to put the amani as customziation for darkspear
they not gonna be allied race
night dust
Ah well
My bestie is a troll paladin and I like to think their IG characters are also friends lol
Amani Paladins lets goo
night dust
I find this unfair
Haronir are basically just furry nelves, who probably only exist because of Avatar's popularity; why aren't they just a nelf appearnce
velvet vector
its obvious that they should have made harranir alliance only and amani troll horde only
but they shat the bed
night dust
We friend
night dust
Although the way you've chosen to spell Sigfried will forever trigger me
night dust
https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171
The race war should've ended with Wrath
velvet vector
The race war should've ended with Wrath
nah, and it will be brough back in midnight
we will be fighting again in voidstorm
night dust
Wonder which Horde NPC they're gonna kill off this time
Although I do want Vol'jin back as a Loa, I need that
And please God give me more Bwonsamdi
velvet vector
Lorthemar, Halduron, Rommanth and maybe Thrall are on the watch list to die
night dust
That tracks, Thrall's been annoying for a while now
Might see Moira die, which would be interesting if it causes Dagran to actually do some dwarf shyit instead of reading all the time
velvet vector
Might see Moira die, which would be interesting if it causes Dagran to actually ...
doubt dwarves will appear
didnt saw any in beta
night dust
Guess I'm carrying this xpac on my shoulders too, damn
night dust
Neither are Earthen lol
surreal barn
I know use the earthen ones
night dust
Not a fan, I like the hand-wrap look
And the hand-wraps with the chains are dumb looking
surreal barn
You don’t like the metal bracer ones?
surreal barn
night dust
No, I like the hand-wraps hence the choices I presented lol
night dust
I don't like that the armor in the second one looks like it's stapled to my bare skin lol
surreal barn
I don't like that the armor in the second one looks like it's stapled to my bare...
That’s why you put bracers underneath
night dust
Still got these ugly thangs lol looks whack on an OG Dwarf
If they made these bracers I think there'd be much better combos I could make
simple trench
Opinions please: Which glove do ya'll think?
first
shell ingot
Haronir are basically just furry nelves, who probably only exist because of Avat...
Apparentl haronir are just an imported species from a game Danuser worked on before
Kingdoms of Amalur
native swallow
and the Arathi faction as well
random trench
Kingdoms of Amalur
It was a fun game i played it
drifting crystal
i loved it too, it deserved a bit more but is was very enjoyable
wind sorrel
Opinions please: Which glove do ya'll think?
#1
frail fulcrum
Apparentl haronir are just an imported species from a game Danuser worked on bef...
tbh he exported KoA plot that was written by cristopher paolini and made it its own idea but worse
while also simping sylvanas
hot finch
if you come to work on warcraft lore you should be a fan of warcraft lore and want to expand and continue it and not bring in your own notebook scribbling and try to feed it to a completely different fanbase
sometimes i feel like half of the writers on the wow team lowkey hate original warcraft lore, thats why they write quests where you literally go piss on garrosh's grave and make eitrigg join the sons of lothar
cerulean beacon
if you come to work on warcraft lore you should be a fan of warcraft lore and wa...
agreed feels like most of the writers just want a excuse to insert their own fanfics into the lore
frail fulcrum
if you come to work on warcraft lore you should be a fan of warcraft lore and wa...
yeh, i mean in a lot of games (including warcraft) the story comes from/its inspired by different media, books, etc., but when they change base lore so much (ahem, SL retcons) its what makes you hate the game
hot finch
warcraft started as like a combination of different fantasies the blizzard founding fathers were into, like warhammer and lovecraft, hence warcraft
but yes once you got an established lore, you dont keep remaking the entire plot origins, shaking the foundations
frail fulcrum
and lets not talk about self inserts like danuser with nathanos or christie golden with calia
hot finch
i never knew those were self inserts
i cant say i mind that, metzen and didier were self inserting themselves too
frail fulcrum
im not a fan of metzen (even more when people said he was gonna save wow lore again, we got an expansion named The War within and the least we got was war) but thrall is not so much of a self insert, kinda, but more like his favourite character
with nathanos you had a minor npc to the OG sylvanas simp as danuser did irl. With christie golden is more with how she writes her characters (caila and anduin, specially anduin) so goodie 2 shoes, inmaculate and blonde characters
oh you also have knaak with rhonin, the most blatant self insert so far
buoyant shuttle
i never knew those were self inserts
he wasnt originally, but danuser turned him into one
hot finch
just the same facial hair
buoyant shuttle
and same simping for sylvanas
past kettle
surreal barn
sometimes i feel like half of the writers on the wow team lowkey hate original w...
I don’t think it’s usually a case of writers hating the lore but more so them twisting shit in a way to “make it theirs”
velvet vector
hot finch
Wow has like the easiest plot to write in history and they keep overcomplicating it
all you gotta do is have two factions constantly beating the ever loving crap out of each other with the occasional existential threat that requires a brief ceasefire
this formula was so good you could repeat it 20 times
but ever since BFA they tried to mess with the formula and havent found their footing since
velvet vector
i fucking cant
the new race is ltierally a lame rip-off from night elves mixed with avatar
and people said blizzard is fixing their lore
hot finch
for now tho the future looks good, quelthalas is cool, just gonna hope amani arent gonna turn into hand holding friendship people
and the last titan im hyped for, titan lore is cool, iridikron is cool
as for the "next 20 years of adventure", lets hope it has a lot of sweaty humans and veiny orcs beating each other's teeth in
surreal barn
the new race is ltierally a lame rip-off from night elves mixed with avatar
Night elves use to be cool but over time they ruined them
I’m 90% sure blizz saw the avatar movies and went “aw man I wish our elves were like that 
“
And fast forward 10 or so years here we are
With nelf #2
past kettle
hot finch
to be fair, we always knew the existence of an underground race that was the bridge between trolls and elves, but i didnt imagine them to be like what the haranir are
surreal barn
Should have been dark trolls 100%
hot finch
blizzard cinematics were still this cool up until DF
not including DF ofc
DF is when wow lore began to resemble more like how Hearthstone depicts it
surreal barn
DF had some brutal shit in it but it was always in the background
Like you just look around a djaradin camp and there is just BUTCHERED dragons everywhere
night dust
Should have been dark trolls 100%
Honestly something between Amani and Zandalari with more feral aspects would've been dope
velvet vector
for now tho the future looks good, quelthalas is cool, just gonna hope amani are...
bad news for you, thats exactly what they gonna do
If you liked tww story then its the same shit
just different setting
frail fulcrum
nostalgia is not always good, there's still some brutal shit in the lore, like how during forsaken heritage quest they want you to commit actual war crimes
when i played classic wotlk i have to admit that even as i love the expac, i got bored after 3 months and went back to retail and enjoyed DF (with all its mlp shenanigans) so much
haughty egret
i just wish racials were non combat or you could choose them in rested area, i feel like nelf wouldnt be nearly as popular if it wasnt the defacto druid priest rogue pick, same with dwarfs, then we would have maybe actually got one of the monster races to play or somthing other than a reskin elf/human/dwarf
night dust
If you liked tww story then its the same shit
I don't think anyone has enjoyed TWW's story. Ringing Deeps was cool, but Hallowfall was dissapointing, Dornogal was meh, spider-place was just... spidery.
Overall the story was pretty meh
haughty egret
og dwarf ur ok, now for your bodypaint cousins get ouuutta here
surreal barn
Dark iron is based?
hot finch
nostalgia is not always good, there's still some brutal shit in the lore, like h...
the modern gameplay is far better, but the story and setting and atmosphere isnt
surreal barn
haughty egret
problem is their racial is poop so noone really plays them
night dust
OG Dwarf and Dark Iron based af, Earthen were crazy dissapointing
surreal barn
No one uses the dark iron racial???
night dust
problem is their racial is poop so noone really plays them
Huh? Dark Iron racial is the same as OG racial except it gives primary stat lmao
surreal barn
It’s one of the best ones
hot finch
if you could have the leveling experience of vanilla, the endgame of retail, and the story of warcraft 3, youd have the best game ever made
velvet vector
dark iron is pve race
haughty egret
i swear that one was diff, i dont play priest so
night dust
Homie if DID had a better mohawk and body-tatts I'd be playing a Dark Iron Slayer
velvet vector
together with nelf its one of the most used in m+
surreal barn
dark iron is pve race
It’s more beneficial in PvP due to how it works actually
night dust
10,000 dots? Fireblood, now I have giga-strength
surreal barn
You get more primary stat for each magic effect it cleanses off of you
Shits crazy on a dark iron pally
velvet vector
It’s more beneficial in PvP due to how it works actually
never saw then in pvp, but in pve they were huge
they even got a small nerf from i remember
and still on the top
cerulean beacon
Wow has like the easiest plot to write in history and they keep overcomplicating...
tbf the whole 2 factions fighting only to help each other to fight a bigger threat only to fight again after it's dealt with isn't exactly the perfect formula to keep repeating because at some point they need to join together or they would be idiot's and that would just be a really stupid plot hole
it worked at the start but now that there are bigger threats it's just dumb if they keep doing the faction war bit
haughty egret
they should kind of steal ff14 method a bit, stop using facton leaders as main story chars and create a band of adventurers that work with the hero(us).
frail fulcrum
yeah, using faction leaders as MC its over exploited nowadays in WoW
And also making us the uber champions was not a good idea, i have to admit that being just adventurers that worked with their faction to defeat bosses was better than dragon balling n'zoth face
velvet vector
tbf the whole 2 factions fighting only to help each other to fight a bigger thre...
they just dont need to "join together"
a temproary truce like how it was before is the right call
good old days
cerulean beacon
a temproary truce like how it was before is the right call
and that's just a dumb thing to do why do multiple "temporary" truce instead of just not fighting a pointless war. As a plot it just not viable
so the whole endles warr stick dosen't really work if they are gonna face multiple world ending threats
frail fulcrum
we need more grounded threats like i dunno, troll empire but well done
we have had too many "the eternal god of yoink is coming for your world"
cerulean beacon
exactly if the eternal faction war theme is gonna work we need to face threats that's not world ending and just smaller
frail fulcrum
thats one of the problems i see with the world soul saga; panda was world war pandas, draenor wworcs and the setting for legion, legion was well done but we got sword; bfa was world war azeroth but in the end old gods world ending threat, we had SL, DF was more grounded but now we have a 3 expac world ending threat
Reusing the same lvl of danger becomes less and less of a threat and gets boring
Give me Arathi empire trying to subjugate everyone like the Emperor of Mankind on its crusade
haughty egret
quite like how this set looks with pvp 1h's
need some sort of techno theme raid to get glowing armour too
surreal barn
good old days
We have that x3 in DF
cerulean beacon
We have that x3 in DF
would have liked if the djaradin was a threat we fought instead of sideline mobs to other big bad
cerulean beacon
they hyped them up so much in the df reveal
only to be a couple of rares a world boss and minor raid bosses
velvet vector
and that's just a dumb thing to do why do multiple "temporary" truce instead of ...
its not pointless though
cerulean beacon
its not pointless though
it is pointless if they are fighting a faction war and keep doing temporary truces
because of bigger world ending threats it's just pointless
glossy wave
the modern gameplay is far better, but the story and setting and atmosphere isnt
atmosphere is hit or miss tbh, sometimes its amazing
undermine was really good for what it was
night dust
quite like how this set looks with pvp 1h's
OOh... Are the red ones only available for the 2200 rating?
haughty egret
yeh , i loved them when i saw them and now we can actually use 1h
night dust
damnit
glossy wave
season ended anyway, cant get em
hot finch
undermine was really good for what it was
for what it was - yes, it is a hearthstone depiction of WoW, which is cool but disconnected, every zone, every race, every culture and town feel like their own separate universe. back in vanilla this game felt like one connected world
frail fulcrum
undermine was really good for what it was
undermine was the best plot in TWW, change my mind (also blizz let me use my darn car in open world)
haughty egret
they just need to push wod classic so i can get s1 elite pvp set then let us transfer to retail
cerulean beacon
for what it was - yes, it is a hearthstone depiction of WoW, which is cool but d...
i mean in vanilla it was two continents so it's a HUGE difference compared to now
frail fulcrum
for what it was - yes, it is a hearthstone depiction of WoW, which is cool but d...
story in vanilla and TBC was the best (wotlk was great but i think tbc its still better)
storytelling nowdays its by far way better
edginess, dark, war like topics? it kinda depends, i think even with illi and arthas stories i like my boy garrosh and most of the setting, i think that was the last time they build a good villain arc
personal opinion
hot finch
i may have failed to get my point across
frail fulcrum
i may have read that wrong, english is not my first language :v
hot finch
the zones are cool, they are very cool, but every single zone even in TWW felt like its own separate episode in completely different fantasy worlds
back in the day, you cross from one zone to another and you feel like you are properly in a different place of the same world, the setting and lore follow you, the factions and territory and their influence span the world
heavy flume
didnt know they changed this channel to a lore channel
hot finch
in TWW you walk one step and you are in magical sky crystal land with paladin airships, take two left turns and you are in mafia goblin GTA, hop down and you are in spider town
every zone feeling like its own separate planet and fiction just draws the entire story away from what warcraft is, at least for me
frail fulcrum
ah yes, you mean something like a map+story continuity or something like that
cerulean beacon
in TWW you walk one step and you are in magical sky crystal land with paladin ai...
i think tww zones are very fluid with their transition and feelings (Except undermine) and they all played a part of the over all story and very well in my opinion
same with df
hot finch
in vanilla you travelled for longer across a larger place and always felt like it is part of the same story and same world, you come across different reaches of the same groups of factions in different parts of the world
in TWW you crammed like 4 different planets and fantasy tropes into one cave
velvet vector
because of bigger world ending threats it's just pointless
why
cerulean beacon
why
Because why keep fighting a faction war if they are still gonna need multiple truces it's better to join permanently
velvet vector
that makes no sense
cerulean beacon
in a lore standpoint it makes no sense to keep fighting
hot finch
TWW was just too many ideas, albeit good and cool ideas, but none of them had enough time to breath. you leave them as fast as you meet them. if you would have taken 1-2 of the 5/6 factions we met in TWW and made the entire expansion about them we might have actually had a coherent story
velvet vector
in a lore standpoint it makes no sense to keep fighting
in a lore standpoint is what make senses to keep fighting
if you look at the story with a watsonian perspective
cerulean beacon
if you look at the story with a watsonian perspective
Huh?
cerulean beacon
in a lore standpoint is what make senses to keep fighting
No it dosen't
velvet vector
Watsonian is when you look and explain things using the logic of the universe/setting
frail fulcrum
in vanilla you travelled for longer across a larger place and always felt like i...
i also think tww zones are related story wise, but they felt poorly executed in a way, they had lot of potential but the storyline was too short and at points the zones felt empy
vanilla zones may have felt that way because they came from war3 but some of the zones really had things like "they bad and we kill them but they're not relevant" while others were more of an introduction to an adventure (something i loved like redridge)
thats why i like tbc more
velvet vector
in lore it makes 100% sense for faction conflict if you take factors of racism, xenophobia, old grudges, resources, land and other stuff
molten terrace
there is no point for factions tbh we had to band and work together so many times
Etrigg is a son of lothar now
velvet vector
the general people doesnt care if thrall joined hands with anduin to stop a cosmic void who to destroy the world, they care if they will have food on the table
cerulean beacon
in lore it makes 100% sense for faction conflict if you take factors of racism, ...
Perhaps but in lore italso makes more sense to reach a diplomatic agreement than to fight if they are still gonna join together to fight a bigger threat
velvet vector
Perhaps but in lore italso makes more sense to reach a diplomatic agreement than...
but how do you know they will "fight a bigger threat"? thats meta perspective
frail fulcrum
in a lore standpoint is what make senses to keep fighting
kinda, thats why we should have a grounded opposing threat like amani empire or arathi empire, that way you can say "there's some renegades from the horde/alliance that agree with that faction/our faction oppose them, so thats why we have a war", justifying pvp
velvet vector
kinda, thats why we should have a grounded opposing threat like amani empire or ...
yeah, this cosmic bullcrap went way overboard
cerulean beacon
but how do you know they will "fight a bigger threat"? thats meta perspective
They have fought multiple threats before so IN LORE they should realise that the faction warr isn't worth it and that it's better to reach common ground and stop the war
frail fulcrum
you dont always need the horde vs alliance war, you can just use the argument that you agree with a new threat point of view and keep fighting on their side
cerulean beacon
They could still join forces and have war games as an excuse for pvp
frail fulcrum
also if we go into war3 lore, everyone stopped fightning, became friends because it was the smartest thing to do but blizz decided to make wow so they rekindled the sparks of war
so its not something new
velvet vector
They have fought multiple threats before so IN LORE they should realise that the...
They who? the people from the village who got massacred by the alliance/horde like 2 years ago? they should "realize" what?
cerulean beacon
exactly so at this point they should have reached a diplomatic commonground and stopped the war
velvet vector
again, you are looking at it in an outside game meta point of view
cerulean beacon
They who? the people from the village who got massacred by the alliance/horde li...
Obviously the FACTION LEADERS you know the ones that LEAD said ppl
cerulean beacon
again, you are looking at it in an outside game meta point of view
Not really it's more of a common sense thing if you really think about it
Why fight a war when they have settled their differences multiple times before
velvet vector
Obviously the FACTION LEADERS you know the ones that LEAD said ppl
Right, do you think the faction leader should catter to their own people, or forge a "diplomacy pact" that will make his people suffer, just so they can be buddies with the other leaders?
there are no differences settled
cerulean beacon
Right, do you think the faction leader should catter to their own people, or for...
and how would they suffer?
velvet vector
the races are not a hivermind
cerulean beacon
It's not like they will be buddy buddy in an instance but it will obviously take years but still it's in all their interest to stop the war
velvet vector
and how would they suffer?
lack of resources, enemy attacks
cerulean beacon
lack of resources, enemy attacks
And how would that be a problem by forging an alliance?
molten terrace
remember what happened to Garrosh?
cerulean beacon
Im talking from a story/lore stand point that in the end them joining forces is the best solution and a thing that would have happened
velvet vector
velvet vector
remember what happened to Garrosh?
/\
the alliance attacked the horde because racism and past grudges
the horde retaliate because they lacked resources
this is going to repeate
and the "alliance forged" will be as worthy as a piece of toilet paper
cerulean beacon
Yeah not gonna bother with this discussion since your zug zug brain can't accept it.
frail fulcrum
remember what happened to Garrosh?
velvet vector
Yeah not gonna bother with this discussion since your zug zug brain can't accept...
We literally have an example ingame twice, of what happened brother
of what i said
after the legion invaded hyjal the factions allied to finish them
what did you think it happened in vannila
Then they stop to deal with the lich king
what did you think it happened after
But now its gonna be different cause...
??
frail fulcrum
cus they are using irl formula: people are exhausted from fighting so they teach their children that war is bad so they dont fight, live at peace and we get this
surreal barn
Get that hearthstone art outa here
frail fulcrum
nevah
surreal barn
frail fulcrum
velvet vector
cus they are using irl formula: people are exhausted from fighting so they teach...
yeah, im sure the children who got their parents killed by the opposite faction will learn that "war is bad" and not to seek revenge and join the faction army 
frail fulcrum
thats not what i said
velvet vector
If we look at the world today, thre are conflicts from 2k years ago still going, just with different skins
frail fulcrum
yes but we still have less war/conflicts compared to 30 years ago
velvet vector
yes but we still have less war/conflicts compared to 30 years ago
mainly because nuclear fear
we dont care about that in wow
frail fulcrum
mainly because nuclear fear
nah, just some countries fear that, in south america people are tired from all the conflicts (even when we still have cartels, corruptions, what nots)
and thats what they tried to move in wow. you may not care but the writters did and thats what we get
velvet vector
molten terrace
israel has been cooking palestine for 80+ years hes got a point
molten terrace
thats probably more of a povery/destabilized issue
frail fulcrum
yep
on mine and the neighbouring countries its not like that
there's always gonna be isolated cases
velvet vector
thats probably more of a povery/destabilized issue
And when your country/faction is in poverty, you expand to get more resources
Literally what happened in CATA
molten terrace
when your country is in poverty you dont have the funds to expand
velvet vector
Horde was economically dependant of alliance trade and when wrathgate happened
they stop the trade
molten terrace
the richest countries are the ones that do imperialism
velvet vector
orgrimmar lacked resources, people were dying on famine
Garrosh launched an assault on ashenvale and took the resources the horde needed
prior to that, Alliance declared war over the wrathgate incident and forsaken experiments on humans in undercity
This just gonna repeat
molten terrace
i doubt we will have another faction war this the problems we got comming
literally the void
frail fulcrum
when your country is in poverty you dont have the funds to expand
garrosh decided to go all out war and expand because of the cataclysm and the damages, so he needed to do repairs and recover their infrastructure, so even if durotar is barren, its not like people where dying just because the alliance stopped trading
also garrosh was always an orcish supremacist since TBC, and also a hot head
i love garrosh but you cant blame the alliance here just because
velvet vector
i doubt we will have another faction war this the problems we got comming
we still should have, but the writters just dont want to do that
they arent competent enough to write two questlines for the factions anymore
so, this peace bs lately is more that they are just rly bad at writing, not because "it doesnt make sense"
velvet vector
garrosh decided to go all out war and expand because of the cataclysm and the da...
No, people were rly dying, this is the canon, you can find in garrosh shortstory and in other books, they lacked resources to build and to eat. Garrosh wasnt a "orc supremacist since tbc" he was a horde supremacist till the start of MOP
And yes we can blame the alliance, they started. The alliance invaded durotan/barrens Before the cataclysm
fading oasis
No, people were rly dying, this is the canon, you can find in garrosh shortstory...
If you want to start the "who did first" then orcs invaded Azeroth first. I agree tho that modern writers should be fired since all they know to write fucking bland and woke propaganda. Bring back Metzen writing with actual conflicts and shady stuff. It's World of WARcraft not fucking Disney
velvet vector
If you want to start the "who did first" then orcs invaded Azeroth first. I agre...
They were brought there by a human, and corrupted by Velen buddy
Metzen is washed up already too
fading oasis
not by Velen, by Sargeras. Also Medivh was under the influence of Sargeras too. Just because he was chasing Velen
velvet vector
honestly, i dont think wow as a rpg have salvation
in the story/lore
maybe i dunno in 10 years when this new mentality of games era ends and we get a batch of new people who know what to do
frail fulcrum
i've been hearing the same shit since vanilla and here we are, debating about a game lore and still paying a suscription
frail fulcrum
velvet vector
i've been hearing the same shit since vanilla and here we are, debating about a ...
i only pay because gameplay is good
so far
and old lore is cool to do
wind sorrel
wow lore is cooked until we get a new world or a reset. Lets hope its soon cuz RP community is shot and so is the good old days of story telling.
silver mulch
wtf is happening to the transmog channel 💀
native swallow
stop yapping start mogging
velvet vector
stop yapping start mogging
be the change in the world that you want to see
native swallow
this is not the world
velvet vector
this is not the world
part of it
native swallow
virtual 
velvet vector
if you have those shadowlands weapon you can put one on shoulder and one on hips
cerulean beacon
if you have those shadowlands weapon you can put one on shoulder and one on hips
huh that's kinda neat actually
native swallow
I do that with the Warlord 1H & 2H
night dust
It's one of the earthen tool weapons I think, I can look up the name when I get home later
noble basin
thnx
night dust
https://www.wowhead.com/item=235298/smuggled-forgegrounds-hammer
Found it on WoWhead
candid kernel
I put this catalist in on my DK and it shows it goes down like 90 ilvls, beware
quick fox
I put this catalist in on my DK and it shows it goes down like 90 ilvls, beware
tf lol
Ty for the heads up actually
I do cat shit for mogs without looking atm
heavy flume
I put this catalist in on my DK and it shows it goes down like 90 ilvls, beware
is the belt your catalyzing from season 2 perhaps?
candid kernel
is the belt your catalyzing from season 2 perhaps?
yes I think so
wind sorrel
Lore talk in a transmog channel is frowned upon where people post their mogs to look like lore characterss they like?
rip
tough harbor
quick fox
Looks like a DK to me
tough harbor
😭