arms

[unborn patrol]

Is there a way to get heroic strike activations to show up on the CDM?

[modest marlin]

have slam on it

[unborn patrol]

ahhh I get it

still getting used to this primitive UI

[slow saddle]

I mean its super versatile

[leaden garnet]

Very punny

[slow saddle]

Its just not good for war yet

[soft parrot]

Slayer or Colossus for AA?

[balmy kindle]

Slayer, 1st pull it's going to look like dog but you'll catch up

The entire dudgeon is a ST slogfest outside of 1st pull

[soft parrot]

aye aye captain o7

[balmy kindle]

Just help burn lashers down for 1st pull and it's gucchi

[soft parrot]

also, do y'all be running battlelord or massacre + critical thinking ?

[balmy kindle]

Massacre + CT is better

[soft parrot]

ty ty the faq build doesn't have it like that

[minor gust]

Faq builds usually end up being out of date. You can just grab the build from wowhead

[modest marlin]

slayer in general feels better for boss damage

[stone marsh]

Slayer feels better in general

Just colossus does more overall

[soft parrot]

i swear with the st buffs on colossus it feels so much better

[stone marsh]

Demolish is just the most ass ability ever

[soft parrot]

feels like i have more control over Demolish compared to Bladestorm

in terms of cd's aligning

[minor gust]

at the end of the day both specs are very good and you can just play whatever you enjoy more in any key

[soft parrot]

slayer just feels so reliant on those sudden death procs for me, feels p bad. but also Demolish not critting feels bad too so give and take

[balmy kindle]

As someone who played both but going to 20s , feel both have pros and cons

Higher keys you really feel the difference in boss damage though

[wind hatch]

but one has extra dr

[pulsar frost]

Can stand in circles and demo

Feels good

[balmy kindle]

Yeah colosuss is definitely a lot tankier too which helps a ton in the higher keys

[wind hatch]

honestly in the groups I run 20s with my main concern is not dying

[balmy kindle]

^^ kinda true

[minor gust]

Slayer I just find myself being aggressive with Dstance usage

nbd

[clever crag]

Bruh

I get a 94

Im forever stuck purple in mythic lool

[wind hatch]

i have not recleared in over a month

I want to reclear so bad

[clever crag]

It is nice

Imagine raiding without parses

[balmy kindle]

farming M parses

[clever crag]

What other parses youd farm ? HC is too easy

[balmy kindle]

Kinda hard to parse on M if group is not amazing

Like on imp the highest I can do is 92 since kill slow, group is near enrage

[full grotto]

jesus christ 5 failed nexus in like the first 5 minutes

[clever crag]

Yes but rng can help

[full grotto]

im losing my mind

[balmy kindle]

Yeah but this raid kinda bad for parsing too with too many adds

Like to get a high parse, one must pad the adds

[clever crag]

Yeah

Especially Salhadar

[balmy kindle]

Man almost got salad bar down this week , was at 10%, yeah it's a pad fest too due to the balls

[modest marlin]

if overall damage was all that mattered sin rogue's being able to snipe low health mobs would make it op 😄

[full grotto]

guild doesn't allow me to pad even when salad is on farm

[modest marlin]

I have myth helm, shoulders, cloak, and boots, plus some trinkets, why is it so damn hard to pick a dungeon to try and get my other slots

it'll be a risk no matter what

[onyx gust]

is gaze a huge upgrade?

[modest marlin]

for most people it generally is

[balmy kindle]

Quite on M and even H

[full grotto]

just farm pit

[modest marlin]

pit has so much loot I don't need. 🙁 I took the ring from vault

[onyx gust]

well hero gaze will helps a lot xd

[full grotto]

????????

[balmy kindle]

Yeah H gaze will beat feather

Easily

[onyx gust]

well gotta see if mythic gonna drop it

cause on hero this week 2 rolls 20 and 33 xd

[balmy kindle]

Just bonus roll, ancient heart on M is huge too

[full grotto]

pit literally has everything you need if you are running arms

[onyx gust]

i have 25% chance to drop it

so i was asking my self

what is better, 2 piece of Mythic Set and its 100% sure or mythic gaze that is 25% to drop from bonus roll

cause i dont have more

[balmy kindle]

Just gamba

You cannot escape

I didn't get my M gaze this week but I'mma just gamba next week

[full grotto]

its 33% to drop if you are speced as protection

[balmy kindle]

^^

[onyx gust]

yeah just need to think about it

[balmy kindle]

Note that if you have M heart of wind or H feather, M gaze is only about 0.6-0.8% upgrade

So it's not end of the world

Just gamba next week until you get it

[leaden garnet]

Just got a 100 parse in a +16

I showed my logs to my doctor; he said I was morbidly a beast

💪

[late lantern]

I feel like my char is poorly optimized/geared and was wondering if this 1 target 3 min sim with M+ build is good?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5yij6HCdbf8ivVUDDKdtxS

Same goes for this 8target 1 min sim https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6sYzX7nX6JNHpiDRQrevjN

[clever crag]

I started for gloves

Seat ones

2/10 rolls wasted so far

[neon shale]

do logs upate if i start logging after the dungeon starts

mid dung

[atomic mist]

should i bonus roll for hero gaze?

or try be patient and get myth done?

[rose matrix]

Just go get myth

It's easy to pug

[balmy kindle]

Easy is relative though, not having CE will make pugging quite painful

[onyx gust]

guys need quick opener for st in raid as slayer

[rose matrix]

Just make your own group and put minimum 280 ilvl and ce only

ez

Slap down 2 markers for tanks and then 2 for madness

[winter kernel]

do we not cleave 2 targets? So on Vanguard mythic just cleave when you can get the HS procs off and otherwise just SS your singletarget abilities?

[leaden garnet]

Asking "Is my sim good?" is stupid

You should be asking "Am I playing well enough to match my sim"

[late lantern]

Im not, i know that, but i was also wondering if my sim is as expected for the ilvl

[leaden garnet]

Yeah, it looks fine

It's deceptive because you have full raid buffs turned on though

In practice you will never hit 92k DPS ST without lust

But also

Is my char poorly optimized?
Every single piece is either crit/haste or a tier piece

[clever crag]

Im hitting 109k st no vantus sim

[distant echo]

Guys im going for ww monk

Feels like everyone plays warrior

[clever crag]

What its one of the less popular classes lol

[distant echo]

Its not

Warrior is most likely top 4-5 class

[stable fiber]

not a chance right now

[pearl shore]

how do you guys best handle rend uptime in aoe? I have a duration timer, but that's only for my target which leads me up often drop it on the other targets since my main target gets refreshed automatically

[frosty basin]

nameplates

it shows debuffs on everyone

[distant echo]

Tbh i use blizzards default ui

It shows debuffs

[onyx gust]

does it mean i click good or still have to works on rotation

second boss heroic voidspare

[clever crag]

You need gear

[distant echo]

Show me youre damage from abilites

Your*

[rose matrix]

The Colossus buffs literally feel like nothing

This st is still so bad

It's crazy

[clever crag]

Yeah

[stable fiber]

right now its probably

druid>paladin>monk>dk>dh>hunter>shaman>lock>warrior>priest>mage>evoker>rogue

[clever crag]

Well actually nah

[distant echo]

Looks good g

[stable fiber]

for popularity of classes

[clever crag]

On paladins I could sustain 400k for some time

[onyx gust]

uf thanks

[clever crag]

I wouldnt before

So on 2t its nice

[thick kelp]

Monk being carried by brew and mw this szn

[distant echo]

Thats bc warriors been at bottom meters for so long, but people like to abuse meta specs so theyre coming soon for arms

[clever crag]

In m+ it felt shitty still but I only did joke keys

[onyx gust]

meta slaves 🤢

[stable fiber]

yeah ofc

[distant echo]

Yeaa

[stable fiber]

people arent going to suddenly switch to arms

[distant echo]

I alt ww monk, but bro theyre sooo fkn squishy

[clever crag]

DK and DH is fotm

[stable fiber]

its super close but it does not beat the meta

[onyx gust]

but fun to play

[distant echo]

100%

[onyx gust]

what is the meta anyway?

[stable fiber]

dk isnt fotm, the class is always good so there are alot of dk players

[distant echo]

Theyre right behind the meta comp

[stable fiber]

dh is though

[rose matrix]

dk is more like flavor of all the time

[distant echo]

The meta is like brew/guardian, unholy dk, devourer, demonology, resto shaman

Idk the healers

Tbh

[stable fiber]

mistweaver not mentioned

[rose matrix]

Guardian, MW, Aug, Dk, Dev

[stable fiber]

meta is bear/mw/aug/dk/dev

[rose matrix]

That's the meta

[distant echo]

Demonology?

[stable fiber]

no

[distant echo]

Wtf

[stable fiber]

demonology is good but it doesnt fit into the comp

[rose matrix]

Yeah it's really good damage but basically right below meta

[stable fiber]

its popular though

[thick kelp]

new tweet up

this time its a banger

[distant echo]

Arms and demonology is right below the comp..

[thick kelp]

demo > ddh

[distant echo]

They just gotta fix colossus st

[stable fiber]

just not true man

a good demo lock > a mid ddh though

is true

[thick kelp]

ddh lowk kind hard to play at bleeding edge

[stable fiber]

its the hardest spec

been saying

[thick kelp]

not as hard as col arms

[stable fiber]

nah it is

harder

[thick kelp]

its only cringe cuz u gotta time your meta expirations

[stable fiber]

i promise u

[thick kelp]

for dps amps

and ramp your meta

so you 4th star into the amp on nxp

or crawth

otherwise its easier than colo arm

[leaden garnet]

If you're not 99 you need to click gooder

[stable fiber]

its ceiling is way higher

it is just such a weird spec idk

[thick kelp]

low skill floor high skill ceiling ddh

[stable fiber]

its so easy to learn but the ceiling is infinite

[thick kelp]

high floor high ceiling col arms

[onyx gust]

i mean i could do more if i wait with bladestrom for adds on that boss

[distant echo]

Its also based on rng procs with ur execute

[onyx gust]

but anything 80+ im happy with it

[thick kelp]

But their talent situation is soo cringe

1 build is the best for

[leaden garnet]

Then do so

[thick kelp]

all scenarios

[stable fiber]

thats like the oposite of cringe

id kill for something like that on arms

[thick kelp]

eh

[leaden garnet]

imo one size fits all is incredibly boring

I like having bespoke setups

[stable fiber]

i think chim

just ruins everything

terrible fight

4 different playable builds on that boss and they are all correct depending on the scenario

just so shit

[clever crag]

Because idiot Blizzard creates entire raids around grip

And lock gates

[stable fiber]

well its not even raid

they just always do the most damage in m+

[clever crag]

If youre dk or lock you will be getting sucked off in every raid

[stable fiber]

i just dont get the raid buff argument

[clever crag]

That too

[stable fiber]

you do the most damage, you have a battle res, you are the tankiest class in the game, you arent in a rwf guild so you copy the liquid strat and they like always have 2 dks on the end boss because grips are infact needed

like if anything rogues should be complaining about a raid buff

rogues dont have shit

paladins too but paladins atleast have a battle res

[clever crag]

Rogues are useless

[rose matrix]

Hasn't dk been in the meta comp for like 3 seasons straight now

[stable fiber]

not to mention the rogue raid buff sometimes just doesnt even work on some bosses

[stable fiber]

4

[clever crag]

But better than when they were mandatory for stealth skips in BfA

[rose matrix]

The problem with blizzard meta is it doesn't really change like metas should

[clever crag]

Yep

[stable fiber]

s1 tww - frost
s2 tww - unholy
s3 tww - frost
s1 mn - unholy (frost is the best spec in raid right now)

[rose matrix]

You know what is funny

We're in for frost being meta next season low key

I could see it

[stable fiber]

actually ik frost was good in raid in s1

but was it even good in m+

because shaman existed

[hasty pumice]

Good morning my arms children

[rare kite]

3.5 they were meta for a decent amount of s1 tww before being replaced by enhance

[clever crag]

Its always some type of DH/mage/dk/aug

For m+

[leaden garnet]

About to start M Salhadaar prog, is FoB+Whirlwind a legit strat?

[hasty pumice]

Phys comp almost got world first MT24

Phys is also really strong if you let it be strong

[leaden garnet]

None of the top logs are using FoB

[clever crag]

give up on Salhadar logs

[stable fiber]

nobody really knows healers but priest was meta in m+ for awhile

[clever crag]

Its padded to the extreme

[rare kite]

Got nerfed too hard and dropped for enhance

[stable fiber]

i see

[clever crag]

These goobers prolly hit small adds only

[leaden garnet]

The talent builds people are running aren't padding builds though

[stable fiber]

it was still good though

[leaden garnet]

It's the standard 2T cleave slayer

[clever crag]

Thats a decent pad build

[stable fiber]

dh tank has been good but dh dps hasnt really been insane

[clever crag]

If you pop BS

[stable fiber]

besides midnight

[clever crag]

And fury runs thane which is ultra pad

[stable fiber]

dh isnt even really that good in raid anyways

bait spec

does awful boss dps

[rare kite]

Yea was still good and unholy went under the radar before ppl discovered it s2 tww

[leaden garnet]

I don't think that word means what you think it means

[rose matrix]

I feel like Havoc is really good too but overshadowed by Dev

I see some of them pumping

[stable fiber]

it is

so is frost

[rose matrix]

Yep

[stable fiber]

both dh and dk specs are like crazy in raid and m+

i feel like havoc and frost are better in raid

[clever crag]

Imagine 2 specs in meta

[stable fiber]

then ddh and unhoyl are better in m+

[clever crag]

When you have 2 dps specs

Would never happen on war

[thick kelp]

Noob mistake to not play dk atp

[stable fiber]

its pretty close for warrior but we just always suck in raid now

[thick kelp]

they have 1/2 dps meta specs every season

[stable fiber]

and are typically pretty strong in m+

cope if you say otherwise

just not the meta comp

[rose matrix]

Being pretty good in M+ is cool and all

But I wish we were fully meta once

[thick kelp]

phys comp is about as meta as it can get this szn

[balmy kindle]

Aye nice to be good for once

[rare kite]

Brain doesn't like it. I've tried to force myself several times. Only like warrior and windwalker

[hasty pumice]

Phys comp is giga strong with the right people ye

[stable fiber]

i think frost is insanely good gameplay with a shaman

[thick kelp]

yep

[stable fiber]

unholy is ass

[rose matrix]

I think shaman buff holds too much power

[stable fiber]

rune weapon is a fun button, big fan of that

i like to play frost when i need to feel what really good short cooldowns feel like

instead of the slop on fury and somewhat arms

[clever crag]

Ill just play warrior even if it sucks

[stable fiber]

push reapers mark and pillar and do 300k dps for like 10 seconds

so peak

45 second cds btw

[thick kelp]

Colossus smash

coulda been this

[onyx gust]

i have 2 myth chest piece one with avoidance one with leech what is better?

[stable fiber]

they need to make colossus smash hit hard

or make mortal strikes after hit hard

just crazy how miserable arms is on the pull of a raid boss

[rare kite]

Hmh sounds like legion arms. Good times

[rose matrix]

Anytime you pull a boss without rage is so bad on Arms

[thick kelp]

waiting for blizzard to take any of our suggestions to make CS crank

[stable fiber]

i dont really mind CS too much

i like it

just on pull sucks

[rose matrix]

I could see the agro death with CS having high damage lol

[stable fiber]

yeah but dks play around it

frost atleast

you know that if you push reapers mark and pillar you are gonna burst for 1.5m dps on like 6 targets

so you just afk for a bit

[balmy kindle]

True, arms nees globals to ramp feels bad on start of pulls

Also very miserable when you need to swap targets

[clever crag]

The main issue is

Opener with couple SD stacks = massive

Without = complete garbage

[stable fiber]

thats kinda true

but the apex is worth so much more

[balmy kindle]

^^ don't you love it

[clever crag]

I love having parse destroyed because of huge rng

[stable fiber]

apex stacks are so fucking strong rn

5 stacks of heroic might on a colossus smash is super juice

[balmy kindle]

Jokes aside yeah it's pretty annoying ngl with RNG

[rose matrix]

Slarms is basically just outlaw at this point

[clever crag]

Casino spec

[stable fiber]

the rng has become less annoying with more gear

thatll probably continue as the expansion progresses

so w/e

[rose matrix]

To me both hero talents feel pretty bad in st for whatever reason

In aoe I have fun but st is pretty sad to play imo

[stable fiber]

if you try to play slayer with 400 haste on a new character, bladestorm never lines up with avatar/cs

[balmy kindle]

Tuning problem

[rose matrix]

I like Fury too but I hate how Rampage does nothing

I feel like it would be so much better with less Rampage casts but it hit really hard

[balmy kindle]

Well madox has a pretty nice mt guide which summarized = hit

I tend to agree with hitting

[weak rain]

hard agree, apex ruined fury lol

arms needs something to generate rage, skullsplitter would've been nice at this point(earliset version, the one that just gave focking rage and was hasted)

[balmy kindle]

Simple, just make charge generate more rage or Op to gen rage

Band aid fix but it's whatever at this point

[weak rain]

I mean, op should give 8 rage when it hits 35% target yes

[nova ravine]

Bring back taking damage = rage

[distant echo]

Ur rend genererate rage

Generate

[weak rain]

rend generating rage is so shit, it needs to go, replace it with something else

[distant echo]

Its good in aoe

In st its garbage

[clever crag]

I wouldnt say the rng is less annoying

[distant echo]

[clever crag]

Just less noticeable

[robust cypress]

in M+, after I afvatar+Smash am I suppose to cleave 3x or bladestorm first

[idle stump]

Hey everyone, got two questions. The add spawn on dragons is HP based or timer based? And to get the cd usage shown from lorrgs which addon do I need? Thanks!

[robust cypress]

Timer

[rose matrix]

Just send bs

[balmy kindle]

Rage increases should be like 15-20 , single digit rage increase feels like shite

[clever crag]

We had more rage gain in classic lmaoo

[stable fiber]

we had more rage throughout classic and wrath (maybe cata)

but that wasnt because of shit like talents

rage normalization was good for the class so

you shouldnt have to be full bis and fully world buffed to have a working rage bar, that is super dogshit lmao

[clever crag]

Now you only need shaman and you still wont have that good rage

[stable fiber]

you still needed a shaman

this game would suck without rage normalization holy

you get a weapon upgrade and its a 40% dps upgrade lmfao

1 auto attack in full bis caps your rage bar

chills

[balmy kindle]

I think TWW was the only expansion where blue man made little diff

Like I remember having so much rage

[bold anchor]

Had a few runs at colossus, it feels so good to play again

But harder in pugs

Had to go slayer for skyreach, and after 2-3 keys as colossus it felt so weird to play

[bold anchor]

Timer on fights, you can use nsrt, with the reminder function I think

But keep in mind, some fights are planned on their dps/tacs so it wont always line up perfectly

If you just copypasta

[winter kernel]

On Vanguard mythic, is cleave lowest prio when hitting only 2target? So MS > HS > OP > Cleave?

[bold anchor]

Wowutils is also a good option i guess

If you have ravager going id say cleave jumps up a bit, but i dont remember the exact prio

[winter kernel]

wouldnt you hold ravager if possible for when ure hitting 3 though

not too long obviously

[bold anchor]

Yeah if you could make sure to have all 3 for the full duration

[idle stump]

Thanks mate

[nova marsh]

Na that was df

Past like s1 you had literal infinite rage

[balmy kindle]

True DF S2 was infinite rage to the point dumping rage to IP for dmg was a thing

[wind hatch]

slam > cleave unless you have 3 stacks of collat

[clever crag]

DF s2 was peak arms

One of the peaks

[wind hatch]

and yeah ALWAYS hold ravager for 3 target

[idle stump]

Thanks!

[tame perch]

Can we now comfortably run Colo in all keys 21+?

[clever crag]

Prolly trolling on SR still

[wind hatch]

yes

[wind hatch]

plenty of 22's and even the only 23 are colo

[tame perch]

Even SR?

[wind hatch]

im talking about sr

[distant echo]

I have alot of haste and even then in execute phase so am i rage hungry as fuck, is it only me?

[tame perch]

Bueeeno

I see SHai did 23 SR as colo, that's great news 🙂

[idle stump]

Damage between the two should be really close and colo has the plus of being more tanky, which helps a lot in this key

[clever crag]

Isnt that trolling or is the buff that nice

All the bosses are st except some 2t cleave

[clever crag]

Yeah slayer is paper

[tame perch]

They pull funnel 🙂

[dim basalt]

Sr has always been viable for colo

Has nothing to do with recent buffs

[austere hamlet]

Col fucks in skyreach

[dim basalt]

Given you have a good tank

[tame perch]

you fuck in Skyreach

[dim basalt]

In pugs barely anyone pulls stuff onto first boss

Let alone 2nd

[balmy kindle]

Might have some problem for 1st and 2nd boss

Since nobody pulls stuff

But 3rd and 4th has some funnel potential

[slow saddle]

haste is rage neutral

[austere hamlet]

Ye slayer might be slightly better dmg wise depending on routing, but it’s also squishy which sucks

[brisk sedge]

holy shit you only need AA and seat to be 23 resil. big gratz

[slow saddle]

Holy jebus

what a gamer what comp u run ?=

[hasty pumice]

Aug frost mage warrior

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945966809272692736/1507009933051301971/2026-05-2021-26-20-Medestifler-BelorenChildofAlar-Mythic-Wipeonline-video-cutter.com-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[balmy kindle]

Need to be aggressive in using dstance and staying in dstance more than colo

[brisk sedge]

brew,rsham,feral,rogue,warr

[hasty pumice]

But even in dstance you're considerably squishier

[balmy kindle]

Yeap for sure, at 19-20s it's alr quite noticeable too

Demolish also makes mobs do less dmg to self

[slow saddle]

Npx what we wanna play these days im just doing 19

[pearl shore]

how do you correctly reflect the beam on seat lura?

do you fully tank it or just run through it really fast?

do you maybe need another def cd to not die to a second tick?

[slow saddle]

doing a 20 npx so same q i guess we just play FULL Col these days ?

well dip that to a 19

tank outpaced the healer and then died

[onyx gust]

Stupid question but did haste gives more ticks on BS? cause i feel like with BL, BS do so much more damage

[leaden garnet]

Not more ticks, but it ticks faster

You get more ticks via SD procs

[latent moss]

can play both in npx

[ionic mica]

The tank buster is related to the stacks on the boss, you taunt during beams at 3 stacks. Biz made a vid on it earlier in the season. Not sure if you can reflect the actual spinning beams though

[latent moss]

no way

maybe one tick cause sr is dumb

like u can reflect one tick of silence on 2nd boss magisters

when u walk into the circle

btw if u sr and walk into the circle and u dont get silenced before boss does the cast cause u reflected a tick

u will be silenced for the full duration

[granite night]

if someone can log review my last post would be really grateful 🙏

[spark mango]

guys, lets assume i can play all 4 dps specs of warrior well, for cosmos, which one do recommend for first kill?

[lone yarrow]

if you have to ask this question you go to warcraftlogs and pull the talents off top parses of the difficulty you are doing

[sacred zodiac]

slarms and just hit the boss

[sacred zodiac]

kinda terrible advice thatll just get you to pad like crazy instead of going for a kill

[lone yarrow]

name one boss of the current tier that this doesn't apply to and actual "best" talent setup is different from top parses

[sacred zodiac]

dunno dont care its still bad advice

[lone yarrow]

brother

[sacred zodiac]

with that logic you wouldve played ST talents on rashanan

[lone yarrow]

you literally do though

rashanan ads are crazy pad that's not worth ruining your ST over

to still let a hunter overpad you

[sacred zodiac]

guilds were literally chain wiping to rashanan the week after the adds were removed from parsing

[dim basalt]

[uncut lagoon]

Progression > Parse

[sour compass]

got mythic 4s , rings, and weapon, crafted wrists and cloak - whats the best dungeon to roll if I cant get my hands on raid trinkets. also still missing boots and hands. feel like windspire should be good and hope for hands/boot or trinket?

[sacred zodiac]

are you 100% sure pugging the first mythic bosses is out of the question for you they are very very puggable

[sour compass]

maybe it is.... but I never found a group yet that invited me allthough I have 9/9H - I might have to tank it myself to get a chance haha

they all care for CE only

[dim basalt]

I see prog runs sometimes

[uncut lagoon]

form your own group

let people carry

[dim basalt]

or that

[sacred zodiac]

i understand its gonna be more difficult this late into the season without the achievement but im sure you can push your way through

and your rewards are the best trinkets you can get

[steel furnace]

Option 1: have high ilvl
Option 2: have already killed the bosses on mythic
Option 3: trade the raid leader 10k gold for a spot

[onyx gust]

sometimes i have target that is far from me and i press button just to do nothing cause target is to far. Is there a macro that will target nearest enemy? i did one but whenever i press OP or MS it changes target xd

[uncut lagoon]

Literally just make your own group

takes 30 minutes

done

[onyx gust]

yeah i know i can click TAB to change target but my fingers wont allow me to

[uncut lagoon]

/startattack```
or if you want a hard switch at a /cleartarget as the first line
as such:
```/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/startattack```

[late lantern]

does anyone know why the cdm sound alert on sweeping strikes being removed stopped giving a sound in combat?

[onyx gust]

it wont switch target everytime i click spell?

also i need to make macro for MS/OP/EXE with it?

or is that just TAB thing but in macro

[uncut lagoon]

no the [dead] makes sure of that, that flag only allows a retarget is current target is dead

[uncut lagoon]

if you want it for every skill then yes

[onyx gust]

that works then?

[uncut lagoon]

/startattack
/cast Mortal Strike``` like this

no you are using (

not [

[onyx gust]

its just a font

#showtooltip Overpower
/targetenemy [noharm][dead]
/startattack
/cast Overpower

it looks like that

[uncut lagoon]

ah

weird font

[onyx gust]

but font changes [ to (

[uncut lagoon]

but yes

[onyx gust]

ik

but looks good

[uncut lagoon]

might want to test it in the world before a raid/dungeon though

[onyx gust]

works fine

thanks a lot

Now i will not lose some gcd

[uncut lagoon]

with how shit tab targetting is in retail rn I might switch to these macros myself

good idea

[onyx gust]

idk how it works

but i have 60% keyboard and i dont have enough space in pull to click tab also

a lot of shit happening

to focus on that also

xD

[slow saddle]

hmm i have very little issues with tab

[blissful fable]

Is anyone here able to offer some help with my rotation? Brand new arms player

[native obsidian]

/startattack on its own targets the closest enemy if you have no target you don't need other things if that's all you want to do

[rose matrix]

I don't even use tab target. Tab is actually my kick

[feral breach]

[rose matrix]

What is tab targeting even useful for

[sacred zodiac]

changing targets without much effort

[rose matrix]

Unless you need it to optimize your spec

I just click the nameplate or the boss frames

[sacred zodiac]

sure you can do that

can you turn your camera while doing that?

[feral breach]

And it targets the next target that is casting

Which is nice with a bunch of adds cluttering the nameplates

[rose matrix]

Every situation I am in is mostly just a focus kick

[rose matrix]

In what situation do you need to do both?

[sacred zodiac]

think of one yourself im not gonna justify the usefulness of tab targetting to you

its not necessary but its nice to have

[rose matrix]

I mean you brought up the point I was just asking what you mean

[feral breach]

It is useful no matter what, but if you got used to not using it, whatever

[rose matrix]

Never had to do both

[sacred zodiac]

can you seriously not come up with a scenario where you need to change your camera to avoid something while also needing to kick something reactively

[feral breach]

He means you press down your mouse for the camera and cant target your kick at the same time

Due to pressing down

[rose matrix]

I honestly have not really ran into that issue which is why I didn't understand him

[tacit nacelle]

There are situations

[slender sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277500347516321792/1371480590284750948/1x.webp

[uncut lagoon]

When there is a caster it'll switch to that and you can kick it right after

or that's how it should work, it just doesnt at times since TWW S1 because blizzard coding

[feral breach]

It does not work when kick is on cd

Which is annoying

[rose matrix]

Yea I knew that. If I really need to move and target someting I usually just jump or something

Wasn't trying to be obtuse

But most of the groups I get in everyone has a marker for their kick or you can just use a mouseover focus

[untold pewter]

I've always used tab unless I need focus/boss frame specific things

No issues with it other than sometimes it'll not pick the caster (like when your kick is on cd)

But that's a knowledge check not a problem with the function necessarily

[uncut lagoon]

yea and it has an internal cooldown as well for smart targetting, like a second
it's so weird

[rose matrix]

I just use focus kick most of the time and if I need to swap I can just swap it with a mouseover macro rq

Can usually do it preemptively

I did see a macro that tab targets, kicks, then returns to your previous target

[untold pewter]

Yeah but that's not necessarily optimal or the best thing to do every time either

There are situations and situations

I think learning to use all options for all situations is better than outright excluding them

[feral breach]

That macro is cursed

[rose matrix]

Is it really? Never used it

The one I saw focused your focus first if you had one but would do the rest if you didn't

I didn't use it because it did seem like it would be a bit much

[untold pewter]

That macro works

You just gotta be in range

It's no big deal

[rose matrix]

It not picking the caster if your kick is on cd sounds pretty terrible

[feral breach]

Ye annoying for stops

[spark mango]

If there is warcraft logs to choose what to play, raidbots to tell me what trinket to use and stats, what the fuck do we have this channel for

You can't look at top parse and decide what feels best for a prog run in a mediocore guild, i am asking for other people's experience

[feral breach]

we are here to judge people asking questions

[reef prairie]

Play slayer arms or slayer fury whatever you prefer tbh

Hit boss

If youre still pondering

[spark mango]

Played fury, it was better

[reef prairie]

Be ready to hate your life 15 yards out of melee range aiming an obelisk

[spark mango]

Reached p3

[reef prairie]

W

[tight basin]

If you got more haste than crit, how much damage are you losing by using lights potential instead of reckless pot?

[dim basalt]

Youre prob gaining then

Because you want reckless to proc crit

[tight basin]

Yeah, what i mean is how much worse is lghts potentianl generally than reckless

[dim basalt]

Not much

Heavily depends on your stats

For me its only a diff of like 800 dps

(with vantus enabled in sim)

[tight basin]

yh, i got eye of midnight, simming 1,2k more than my current ring but throws my haste above crit

[dim basalt]

Even with crit flask?

[tight basin]

yes, not by much but it does

[spark mango]

In 1048 crit 1046 haste

Cutting it close

[atomic mountain]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dhL1A9YJc3TvMGxj?fight=2&type=damage-done
i need help pls. what am i doning wrong.

[fair tinsel]

wtf, always wondered why ppl had heavy knothide on their gloves

it works

thought it was a meme like the fishing enchants

[reef prairie]

feels like you may be holding cds too much

1.4cpm on cs and 1.6cpm on demo seems low to me

it also looks like you are spamming cleave on single target

which you never want to do

(without funnel)

[wind flicker]

Oppa new npx record

[late badger]

Anything i should be doing differently or keeping in mind when playing with an aug?

Like holding cds if they’re about to have breath or something

[hasty pumice]

eyo tell nrbt that he's a good boy

Rgrds from the doc

[hybrid needle]

Thats an interesting way to say "NOTE TIP"

[atomic mountain]

well i have all on cd then. do i use slam instead?

[reef prairie]

Yessir

Wowhead has a prio list which is correct

[atomic mountain]

and some streamer say to keep demolish till avatar and smash aline, if they are just 10 sec on cd

is this right too or cap?

[dim basalt]

Sounds like you misunderstood something

You hold demo in st until you have cs
you just cast demo on cooldown in aoe, can keep it for cs if the cd of cs is less than 8-ish seconds

[reef prairie]

You can pretty well just rip demo on cd in aoe yea

Very short cd

[tight basin]

did they fix the SEAT tech, telport out and talent

[dim basalt]

no

[atomic mountain]

check

[minor gust]

Chinese are onto something with this triple warrior strat

[dim basalt]

well

[dire hinge]

hehe

[minor gust]

xD

[daring stream]

is puzzle box worth bonus rolling for as arms? currently got a HC version and a 285 gaze, sadly no luck for the HC hunger last week

[thick kelp]

Sure if u like cbt

[minor gust]

Only worth if you don't mind the suffering that comes with it

[daring stream]

i assume i should time it with every Avatar no? though it does feel pretty poopoo to use, specially in keys

i'm just surprised how high it sims compared to other trinkets

[latent moss]

it just gives an absurd amount of stats and arms has dynamic cds

[minor gust]

Real answer is just get the raid trinkets. Both bis raid trinkets are on easy bosses to pug on mythic

[daring stream]

currently 281, not sure i'll get accepted to pugs but good shout!

[leaden trench]

Should I be looking to swap to defensive stance on targeted spells from elites/bosses in M+?

[safe vigil]

It's a case by case thing, you gotta learn with experience, but for safety jsut do it

you'll never deplete a key to using d-stance too much, but you'll deplete many keys to not using it enough

[leaden trench]

makes sense. thanks

[safe vigil]

If you see it's giga fine, then next time you know you won't need d-stance for it

[balmy kindle]

the higher you go the more you depend on D stance

not dying is better than losing some damage

[leaden trench]

I'm a tank main so I don't care too much about losing a bit of damage its just that I don't know when a healer cd is sufficient to survive a mechanic or when I should be exchanging defensives w/ specific mechanics.

[balmy kindle]

on the higher keys i personally just use D stance when theres incoming unavoidable damage, not worth limit testing and bricking the key

[leaden garnet]

Farm +10s and craft mythic gear at 285 ilvl

You can basically welfare your way to 290 ivl

[balmy kindle]

also play prot and get free invs into 10s if u dont have frens

just hold down W key

[daring stream]

yeah i was thinking about that, i'm actually pretty well off with many mythic pieces due to bonus rolls i just haven't acquired the crests yet

[leaden garnet]

Put defensive stance on an easily accessible key and get into the habit of parrying. It's a 3s cooldown between toggling on or off and it literally increases your effective HP by like 50%

[candid garden]

how do you guys handle regular spellcasters in higher keys?

when stuff like arcane bolts starts oneshotting people

kick rota on every mob ?

tried MT 20 all our deaths were just from regular casts going through

everyone holding kicks for stuff like poly or terror wave

but the regular spells + if u have a mechanic on you = insta death

[limpid patrol]

how long do you hold CS if demo is on cd? Or do oyu just send and hope the CDR got you (for both st and aoe)

[slow saddle]

U never hold cs

These are the rules

[leaden garnet]

Use defensives

Stall bolts until the mechanic is resolved

[slow saddle]

Yeah, and sometimes u die if u bad

If u miss an interrupt u die in a cuttin edge key

[leaden garnet]

You have to realise that m+ isn't balanced to be clearable at such high levels. Blizzard didn't balance this stuff to be reasonable at +350% damage output

[slow saddle]

I mean higher keys, the job is to not let cast through

U got so many stops these days

[leaden garnet]

And if a cast has to go through, tank it with personal cooldowns and make sure it doesn't overlap with anything else

If you're doing +20 or above you should be able to co-ordinate that

[candid garden]

i pug

so its rough

many times 2 or even 3 people kick the same thing and after that its just someones dies xd

[slow saddle]

I mean i pug as well. Sometimes it rough

I always hold my sb for oh shit momenta

[leaden garnet]

Skill issue

Kick later

[minor gust]

That's just how pug no coms goes

[slow saddle]

I always hold my kick

Sometimes i have 7. Kicks entire dungeons

[leaden garnet]

Or co-ordinate kick markers

[slow saddle]

But the 7 when no1 else have kick up

Same with stops hold em

[calm glen]

why should I cast ravager before avatar in AoE?

[late lantern]

because else u waste a second of avatar to ravager cast/gcd

[calm glen]

oki, and ravager doesnt benefit from avatar? or is it pandemic (hope that was the right term)

[reef prairie]

I really really really miss being able to track my party member's kick cds

[candid garden]

im holding my kick for next dungeon

[shut fable]

hello is arms slayer available?

[sturdy hill]

Yes

[dim basalt]

Ravagers damage is laughable

[sturdy hill]

Ravager is just pressed for the buff which is why you just fart it out

[novel raven]

Most mobs (not all) can be solo kicked, need to make a bind for marking a mob, if ur moon and we are in same grp I expect you 2 kick the moon marked mob

[quaint otter]

i guess u meant snapshot

[minor gust]

That exists again with an addon forget what it's called think mini cc or something.

[reef prairie]

Only tracks if the kick actually goes through i believe

Not reliable enough for me

[minor gust]

Yeah it's scuffed

But it's what we got

[reef prairie]

Yea its just bad tho

[quaint otter]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNGlwOG1sbXhlaTZkY3lwczBhYW1kN3ZhNmdteHoxNWJ6a2V6aDd1ZSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/BVrvA8qvaOubigbg9O/giphy.gif

still dont get what the point of removing the was

WAs

[minor gust]

Their no addons thing was a failure that's for sure

[quaint otter]

Even so why not just hire addon creator to work for the new ui things

XD

[minor gust]

We pretty much got most things back but it's all just worse

[dim basalt]

Because that's completely different code

But yeah they should have hired a team for it nonetheless

[candid garden]

magisters solo kickable with arcane bolts and polys? what about the shadow bolt voidwalkers?

[reef prairie]

Yea I would not say most things are solo kickable

Most bolts can be solo'd by 2 melee kicks tho

[sturdy matrix]

Hire? Have you seen what Microsoft did to Activision after buying it? Lol

[minor gust]

Microsoft?

Things were shit before Microsoft bought it

Nothing's changed

[sturdy matrix]

Oh yeah I'm just saying the definitely didn't hire more after merger

[minor gust]

Yeah only thing they hired was Microsoft copilot

[sturdy matrix]

But yeah they should hit the rip cord and let weak auras come back

[slow saddle]

Not worse

Its temu // ali express

[minor gust]

So worse?

[slow saddle]

More like a horrid amalgamation

[rancid willow]

Never had more addons installed than I do today.

Maybe last time was BC

[thick kelp]

real

in tww it was wa + plater

[inland fern]

Whats the best spec nw

[nova marsh]

Tbh

[candid garden]

first kill xD

[nova marsh]

Evrey mmo is fucking trash at ui design

All of them

[granite night]

anyone got the potion of reck macro ?

[nova marsh]

Id say wows base ui is the closest to actually being fully usable, and even then it needs addons

[wind hatch]

#showtooltip Potion of Recklessness
/cancelaura Frenzied Focus
/cancelaura Hasty Hunt
/use item:245902
/use item:241288
/use item:245903
/use item:241289

[rancid willow]

It’s so ugly and dated though.

If they banned Elvui, I’d finally quit for good.

[ripe field]

I am a TellMeWhen shill. Ive replaced probably half a dozen add-ons with TMW at a fraction of the CPU usage. ElvUI, BetterCDM and BetterBars were using an average of 6% CPU. Replaced all with TMW - tadaa max avg 2%

[rancid willow]

I get good fps with Elvui so cpu usage is no problem

[frank willow]

Anyone else feel like low rolling sudden death procs on slayer is so frequent that the spec feels like shit

[nova marsh]

Personal taste

I think elvui looks gross

[rancid willow]

Yep. Feast or Famine

[frank willow]

Glad I'm not the only one, feels absolutely garbage

[minor gust]

theres some degenerate RNG with slayer right now. You either hate it or dont mind it

just how it is right now

hopefully gets adjusted in the future

[frank willow]

It's ironic too because you were spammed with sudden death procs as slayer fury in 11.2

couldn't even get through them you'd just send for CDR or if you didn't get a raging blow refund

I regularly go 30 seconds without an execute proc

then ill get 4 in 5 globals

[nova marsh]

I am unfortunately on the hate it side

Slayer feels like outlaw gamba on steroids sometimes

[minor gust]

you hate it at times then you proc out your mind and get 2 BS inside 1 CS on first pull MC and do giga dmg

[frank willow]

It's actually the most unfun garbage, especially when col is so smooth and predictable and under your control

[nova marsh]

Well

Not fully on colo

[frank willow]

Feels as garbage as AR havoc at the moment, you can proc 10 souls in 6 globals or literally go 30 full seconds without proccing a single soul and lose glaives despite full uptime during those 30 seconds

[nova marsh]

But yes crit rng is easier to swallow then just "oh you didnt get procs lmao get fucked

[minor gust]

me when my things dont crit on colo

[frank willow]

Outside of battlelord low rolls Col is pretty low variance

[minor gust]

yeah for the most part its just crit rng.

Slayer is omega casino right now no denying that

[frank willow]

They need to stop with random proccing garbage being how your spec performs. More shit that is under my control, less sitting here praying the game lets me play

[nova marsh]

And with crit rng we can kinda stack the deck in our favor

[minor gust]

its more of the layers of RNG slayer theres too much. Slayers strikes, SD, Reap. It all works together too which is why you can see these super highs and lows

[frank willow]

insanely boring

[nova marsh]

Sometimes I wonder if the reason blizz wanted to remove sd reap was to reduce the rng

At least for aoe (not that that was a good idea anyways lmao

[minor gust]

im hoping they remove BS CDR and add BS back to AM, and increase reap proc chance from cleave.

[nova marsh]

Im on board with that

[minor gust]

that would hopefully be enough to tone it down

[frank willow]

Its very simple. You tune reap to something that can consistently proc off of cleave, and then tuen the damage to basically just make it a buff to cleave damage. Then add reap to execute from sudden deaths, but again tune both so that the damage isn't out of control and the influx of sudden deaths is smoother, or more under your control

[rancid willow]

Did the ST buffs to colo happen this week or is it next?

[frank willow]

they're live

they don't really matter much

[rancid willow]

Critcake’s video 2 days ago he said “next week”

[frank willow]

its still bad in single target

[languid torrent]

Give me reap with MS back

[rancid willow]

So threw me off

[languid torrent]

[rancid willow]

Disappointing

I’ve yet to go back to colo bc I pug 90% of my keys

[rancid willow]

I believed you btw

[modest marlin]

Woo, 50/50 bonus roll on Pit gave me the choker. Now I don't know if I have the guts to try again when so much of the dungeon pool I don't need.

[rancid willow]

Just go thrown off by what criticake said in the video

[frank willow]

yeah idk how they tune arms to be decent in single without making the spec absolutely disgusting

unless they like tune autos or something

[ripe field]

At the 19-20 key range, I'd say about half of my pug tanks bring funnel onto bosses. Might be worth even with pugs

[daring heron]

maisara xd

[ripe field]

Maybe more than half. Idk its fairly common

[jovial ocean]

bro is aura farming us

[ripe field]

hay crit love you :^)

[rancid willow]

I spoke him into existence

[minor gust]

[modest marlin]

I mean they could just do the rogue route and make everything work the same in aoe lol

I still can't get over that their fix for Sin and Sub aoe was to give them blade flurry basically

At least in TWW

They could buff single target but they'd probably have to nerf sweeping strikes and meat cleaver

[rancid willow]

Prob a shit idea but maybe just have a talent that does more damage to primary target?

I dunno.

[ionic mica]

we just need one of the many talents other specs have to let X aoe button do big dam, reduced by 5% per target hit down to a certain point

on demolish

and make MS/OP better in ST/clean up SD rng somehow

colo would probably be fine with just the demo change

[modest marlin]

Its not a new concept when your aoe is just you doing your single target but it cleaves but it frequently causes problems.

[ionic mica]

its fine if they use the tuning knobs they have, they regularly buff outlaw st and reduce blade flurry, and very often fiddle with SP psychic link

if they think our 2t is too good they can just make sweep a lower %

demo being ass in ST is the main issue really, and is fixed by using the same ideas they have already used on many other specs

[hazy lance]

hello.. how much mastery should i aim for as colossus?

[dim basalt]

You sim your gear and wear what the sim tells you to

[hybrid needle]

What kind of DPS are yall running up until grawth in academy

[slender whale]

I envy u, I need 3 itens from there out of 6 this week.
Got the 3 I don't need 🙂

[leaden garnet]

For the remainder of this season I think I'm literally just after the second ring from NPX and the gloves from Seat, so... that's like five resets away

It is nice for arms to have basically its entire BiS accessible from the first half of raid

[lime ruin]

Are voidclaw gauntlets sim bait or nah? Should I get the crit haste gloves in windrunner spire?

[leaden garnet]

Voidclaw will be BiS for slayer ST

They won't be BiS for m+

[lost blade]

what does that macro do?

[wind hatch]

it cancels the secondary stat weapon enchant procs before using potion of recklessness to guarantee that it gives you crit instead of haste

only worth using if your weapon enchant proc will make your haste higher than crit but ideally you should try to prevent that from happening

[lost blade]

Ah ok I see, ty for explaining!

[cobalt sinew]

what expac was the golden age for arms warrior

[novel raven]

mop classic has played with 2-5 arms warrior the entire xpac

but its mostly because of support, arms itself is like bottom ST spec in the game

[sharp flame]

does anyone know / have an addon or setting that can show me when my weapon procced its enchant?

[proper moth]

Depends

Last tier of wod Arms was saucy. Legion near the end was great, BFA meme tier was amazing. Solid all of dragon flight.

I think arms was best whenever you just had to stack crit/mastery and execute hit like a nuclear bomb

[tranquil swift]

is the col talent tree the same after the buff?

[wind hatch]

yes nothing changes

[rose matrix]

Yo

Dk legit just trolls you first boss AA

Deletes all the funnel

[stable fiber]

unfortunately people dont care

also dk gets a decent amount of funnel from that (not even close to what arms gets but)

if a unholy uses cds on first set he is griefing anyways

you should leave that alive if you have a arms warrior

2nd set needs to die or tank dies

[broken hound]

Question on weapon enchant:
WoWhead has Acuity of the Ren
Archon shows Jan'alai's Percision

Which are we using?

[rose matrix]

All the DKs I see just send on the first Germinate and delete everything

It trolls the funnel pretty hard for basically no gain

Other than a higher overall

[broken hound]

What exactly are we funneling from and to? like which ability is being enabled by the funnel for us?

[stable fiber]

So grief

[proven veldt]

is there a reason I see so many top raid logs use rend as the first or second global on ST? feel like i'm missing something

[nova marsh]

We use what sims best

[grave mulch]

Tbh if you had the same ability to delete all the funnel and make your numbers look big you would too .

[rose matrix]

Not really

If I did I would play Colossus instead of Slayer

And Unholy gets big numbers regardless if they save for 2nd set or not

[hybrid needle]

Tried a 19 Skyreach as col. Its not bad at all honestly

[fossil vessel]

does anyone have a macro for stance swapping from defensive to battle
and vice versa

[rose matrix]

Once you get past those first 2 bosses you're cruising

You can get funnel on them but it requires a good amount of coordination

[hybrid needle]

Zero funnel on any bosses, still managed 75-80k singletarget which feels alot better than tankdps

[teal island]

what is best dung to spam for new arms to use rolls in? Got 12 rolls this week .....

[zenith warren]

pit

[teal island]

for hammer?

[dire hinge]

Hammer's great, ring is good, belt is good, other pieces can be catalyzed if you're missing myth tier, etc

[zenith warren]

neck as well

[weary compass]

How far behind is thane in comparison to col arms in keys?

[tired kelp]

Hey guys, do you know what the range of cleave is? I don't have a very good idea of how far and how wide it reaches, tried googling it but couldnt find any relevant info.

Like, range wise does it reach as far as bladestorm does

[slow saddle]

bigger than u fear

smaller than u want

[wind hatch]

the range is a bit further than your auto attack range and its almost a 180 degree cone

honestly the best way to figure it out is to just experiment with it on dummies for a bit

[slow saddle]

keep in mind the SLAM isnt

so u still wanna fackin hug mobs

[tired kelp]

kinda having a hard time hitting cleave on all trash mobs reliably especially on really frantic encounters like algethar first pull

[slow saddle]

well brother

thats us

u gotta have a great tank, thats how ppl do greater dmg than u rly

if u go watch biz - crit and those guys their mobs are so freaking stacked that they dont even have to move 😄

[tired kelp]

I see, i was wondering why i cant do anything close to what they are doing, even though i felt that my rotation was fine

[wind hatch]

for aa first pull u just want to stack on your tank as best you can

[tired kelp]

yeah i kinda understand in theory but really hard to predict which way they leave the green circles 😕

[wind hatch]

if your tank is marked its way easier to follow them

[lusty slate]

The aa 1st pull is annoying, tanks these days are so lazy i swear

[wind hatch]

the circles have like 3 seconds until they explode so you dont have to run out immediately

[tired kelp]

thanks, will try that

[slow saddle]

also

its 100% a tanking issue not a u issue hitting all

just make sure u kill the big lasher u are marked to kill

and that pull mattters 0

Maisara caverns low key a slayer dungeon just for the shield boss tbh

AS in pugs

[fringe leaf]

i have myth gaze, heart, and hero plume, my hero plume+heart beats out my gaze+heart

anyone else?

[wind hatch]

link sim

[fringe leaf]

sec let me run one

[fringe leaf]

sim for m+ boss pure ST only b shout https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nwPHvwTw3MhghtMgLzMMpq

[fringe leaf]

assuming 10 mob pull no mechanics in m+ only b shout https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nL3fc1FkNvHiPkocLzMysr

i should have mentioned it was for colo arms

[prime herald]

Hey, is there any addon that can track weapon swing for Arms?

[dire hinge]

;unfortunately no

[prime herald]

gg blizz

thanks

[dire hinge]

its funny bc Ret can lol

[stable fiber]

I tried to make a m33kaura for this

They made the value of attack speed hidden LMAO

So you cant even make a addon for it

[prime herald]

dw they will add it to the game in 10 years 🙂

[dire hinge]

yeah, ret can only see it because of a spell that turns into their autos. We could get the same, but no 😂

[desert briar]

I swear if one more Tank just dies on last boss MT in my 21s i quit

[reef prairie]

anyone else love resil keys

[slim plaza]

yo guys does this mean i can ignore boss mechanics n shit for 10 seconds if i do a max stack demolish

[dire hinge]

Knockback stuff yeah since it roots you, but Demo alone isn't enough to live through big hits

[slim plaza]

oh wait

is it just 1% per stack

i read it as 10% per stack xD

[dire hinge]

up to 10%

[slim plaza]

yee

mb

ty for clarifying though

[dire hinge]

no worries, makes sense. Blizzard isn't known for clean descriptions 😂

[stable fiber]

you also take less damage during demolish

it wont save you from a nuclear bomb though

[dire hinge]

yeah that's what they're asking about

[slim plaza]

yeah no i legit read that as 100% dmg reduction

which now that i think about it

would make literally 0 sense

also is it normal to feel like a wet noodle during boss fights as colossus

[wind hatch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mLGyD3xuLS2Tp8mhSk5kEN

changed a couple things around and now they're pretty much equal, same results in multitarget

this is without raid buffs btw, in a realistic scenario with a couple of raid buffs gaze will be better because it scales better

[slim plaza]

this is what i do to a dummy at 285 😭

on the m+ build

[dire hinge]

that's not terribly surprising, training dummies are gonna make you do much less damage

[stable mountain]

them dummies op

[slim plaza]

i dont have gaze yet tho

but yea

[robust cypress]

Slayer in M+ never uses cleave on 1-2 targets, right?

[dire hinge]

no build uses Cleave on 1 target
however, both use it on 2 target IF you also have 3 stacks of collateral damage (it's higher priority than Overpower, but less than HS/MS/Exe)

for colossus you also want ravager goin, but slayer it's just 2 target + 3x collat

[robust cypress]

kk

[onyx gust]

as colo?

[slim plaza]

yeh

on m+ build

[onyx gust]

that some good damage

on st

[slim plaza]

:o

[onyx gust]

ive seen worse in m+ dungeons

lmao

2:25 combat and thats mine xd

[bold anchor]

Probably stupid Q, but roughly, how is the dps increase from an aug vs skyfury? I cant find sim options for aug

[slim plaza]

do u have gaze?

[onyx gust]

280 ilvl feather champion track and box hero track

[bold anchor]

Had a discussion last night after a key, no shaman and i did 180~ overall in pit

[slim plaza]

oh wtf

[bold anchor]

I argued shaman would give 8-15% more overall

He argues aug (that knows how to play) gives more

[slim plaza]

huh

shaman only affects autos right

not ur abilities

its barely anything

[bold anchor]

In sims its roughly 10%

on/off skyfury only

[onyx gust]

skyfruy is huge

blue man buff on top

no sham no key type syt

[slim plaza]

wtf

[bold anchor]

I think i saw a PI gain % list, windfury gain list, etc

Cant find it anymore

[slow saddle]

first of 2% mastery = 2% dmg r?

2nd we lack rage big Fin time

so 20% more rage is giga

[bold anchor]

And i dont understand or know much about aug

[slow saddle]

just dont have em in grp

[bold anchor]

Gives crit and str and more leaps

[slow saddle]

Bigger burst = better for aug

so thats why it works with dev + uh more than war

[bold anchor]

I just wonder roughly how much it is vs blueman

[slim plaza]

i dont rly get it though

aug does like 0 dps on its own

[bold anchor]

It also feels aug has to know what hes doing

[slim plaza]

shouldnt it be MUCH ebtter than a simpel raid buff

[bold anchor]

Aug is the bard of wow

[slim plaza]

yeh

are u referring to lost ark

[bold anchor]

If the aug boosts three ppl more in total (plus his own low dmg), than another dps

No was thinking like lineage or w/e had barsa

Bards

[slim plaza]

ohh

well yea anyways i get what u mean

but yea i never realized windfury was that big

fuck playing without a shaman wtf

[bold anchor]

I love the idea of augs

I just donk know much about them

[slim plaza]

same

[mortal crag]

Well my tank got resi 22

Finally can play the game in a couple days

[slow saddle]

worst part isnt even the dmg

its the FEELwhen u dont have it

and are starved 24/7

[bold anchor]

Im not that starved as colos it feels

[slim plaza]

i was giga starved on single target dummy

[bold anchor]

However, either i am big pepega or i spam hard, sometimes run out of sweeping strikes