arms

[dim basalt]

hmm

[stable fiber]

they do the first down then skip

ok they do vantus

@dim basalt

all 20 of them

[dim basalt]

What does the phase usually start?

[stable fiber]

also thats another thing

parsing on some bosses is hard asf because vantus is so strong

and i only really care for the last boss so thats the only one im using vantus on

[dim basalt]

Cant wait to kill Lura and then farm some logs

But still a long way to go

We are only like 100 pulls in and get to P2 somewhat consistently now

[stable fiber]

thats pretty decent prog ngl

[dim basalt]

We learned P1 pretty quickly I feel like

[stable fiber]

ive seen some insanely bad prog on this boss by other guilds

[latent moss]

u can deflect the magical part of colossal strikes

on the big add

[stable fiber]

i know of a guild that only has like 190 pulls but only have seen p2 like 4 times

[dim basalt]

The other guild I applied to are at similar prog with double the pull count

[latent moss]

talking bout this

[stable fiber]

how much does the physical part do

[latent moss]

not enough to kill you

[dim basalt]

Its not that much

[latent moss]

ive lived it in the past

[dim basalt]

As prot without any defensives it does like 20% hp or so

[stable fiber]

it seems like

[latent moss]

so as arms with dstance ure fine prolly

[stable fiber]

its 3 strikes of 400k

reduced by armor

with dstance u are fine for sure

since the armor reduces it by like 50%

[latent moss]

yeah

[stable fiber]

id assume the boss is 1 tankable

even with like a dk

[lost blade]

Thanks a lot of your reply mate, appreciate it!

[slow saddle]

but what do u wanna play?

coz i bet that ya Skill lvl levels out before which class u choose ( at least that happens for me ) 😄

[lost blade]

Basically I want to play anything with bladestorm, and to do that I need slayer, so I just dont know what to pick up first and what I want most is good dmg profile and if possible more ”pugfriendly”. Don’t want the performance to be giga dependent on a coordinated MDI route with godtier tank xd

[latent moss]

crit gem

is 0.5%

the primary stat crit gem

for me

[stable fiber]

i been using it

since i got anothe rsocket

[latent moss]

i took hole from vault

[hidden sluice]

does anyone know where this red rectanlge is coming from at the colossus smash bar?

[clever crag]

Any new Colo m+ boss dps ?

How above tank are we now with no funnel lol

[near radish]

is there a quick way to see someones race in a log

[clever crag]

Go human

They always scale the best

Or dwarf/tauren

[buoyant axle]

Nelf is bis

[slow saddle]

Pug friendly

= slarms and fury slayer

MAN i wanna be NELF the abilty to meld is just

[clever crag]

Fury slayer is the most universal

As arms you will change build like every boss

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-und-panzer-gup-truth-nuke-trvke-katyusha-gif-3214992808214369110

[calm hollow]

how much u sim now? i got my last socket this week too, and i am 1.2k dps behind my last week sim

did something change?

[stable fiber]

uhh let me check

[hasty pumice]

collecting Ws

[thick kelp]

W colossus

[hasty pumice]

ye swapped for today

0 funnel on bosses

[stable fiber]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xutfyeiu92okwwhhAx4tYM

[hasty pumice]

still 186k overall

two missed reflects

[stable fiber]

116k

solid

my dk is only 140k

all good

[hasty pumice]

imagine having funnel

[hasty pumice]

based

[thick kelp]

not even 116k

could easily hit that with eye of midnigght + seat gloves

[stable fiber]

think eye of midnight is bait

seat gloves good thoughj

[thick kelp]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5P62Q1wH97PncJRkpDa9Q1

bait bait

[thick kelp]

go like my tweets

[stable fiber]

how is that even proccing crit reck pot

[calm hollow]

something is wrong with my sim, was almost 116k last week, and now with +1 socket its 114.4k

[thick kelp]

with hopes and prayers

[stable fiber]

i dont trust that sim

sorry!

that mfker should not be proccing a crit reck pot

[thick kelp]

Its proccing Crit from hunt -> reck pot goes crit

:omega

[stable fiber]

it doesnt have hunt

[thick kelp]

wait not hunt

but heart

I meant to type

800 crit from proc puts it at 1844 crit

[stable fiber]

so its waiting for heart to proc...

[thick kelp]

no its not

it just pots on CD and prays

it pops in opener

which is quite the good hitrate

[stable fiber]

its only getting haste pot 1/11

of the time

[thick kelp]

cuz u are fresh in combat so proc chance on opener is quite high

even on the example timeline it doesnt get a proc till 21s

[stable fiber]

it kinda works like this now

[calm hollow]

opportunist tho?

[stable fiber]

but trinkets still have a rng aspect

took me 10 gcds to proc it just now

and like

nah

[thick kelp]

:))

[stable fiber]

which is also why i think fury's bis offhand shouldnt be crafted hunt embellishment

because its not consistent to the sim

but w/e

[thick kelp]

bis is fake anyway

[stable fiber]

kinda

[thick kelp]

1 talent point swap changes arms bis

from a to b

or reck -> lights potent

swaps our bis

[stable fiber]

i like to minmax gear as much as possible to make up for me sucking at my rotation

[sour compass]

for ST on slayer do u synch any CDs or just throw everything when its available?

[thick kelp]

sync with CS

[sour compass]

ok so never spin without CS?

[thick kelp]

indeeed

[sour compass]

but u dont delay CS for anything avatar right?

[thick kelp]

remeber that bladestorm extends your Cs due to unhinged so you can send a spin if there is atleast 2s left

[thick kelp]

you hold avatar for cs*

case by case ofc

[latent moss]

rule of thumb is to

never delay cs

[sour compass]

but not other way around right

ok yeah

thats what i meant

ty

[latent moss]

i got omission

from my first roll

[sour compass]

but u can spin without avatar right

[latent moss]

will i get occlusion before season ends

yes

[thick kelp]

Nice I already got both from my first 2 rolls

[calm hollow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iyauepLdZS5QdQsVfbk2Vq
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7q8JskRt2XqjetwKy73dpK
@stable fiber explain this, i just switched belts and gained a socket, and lost dps,, is my sim bugged or wth

[latent moss]

🥄

[thick kelp]

@dim hill look at this lmao

[slow saddle]

answer simple

u want more haste

[calm hollow]

i dont think thats the issue

[strong flame]

try to sim both again today with latest or smthing

since its a week difference between them

[calm hollow]

already did

[thick kelp]

this is with latest https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9e2zyJqZuFRmy7wAKhFPWD

on the old gear

did you sim your upgrade with

reck pots and stuffs idk

[calm hollow]

still getting crit from reck

so shouldnt be an issue

and its not even close (crit is like 150 more than haste)

[slow saddle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jDYm7eUz6yJ3WdhWrzHbuQ wow im almost 8k behind u how

dafuq can i be that much behind ?

[dim basalt]

Did you sim with vantus?

[slow saddle]

nah

did he ?

[calm hollow]

part of it is vantus

[slow saddle]

ah kek nwm 😄

[dim basalt]

Vantus is like 3-4

[calm hollow]

yea simmed 111-112k without vantus

[strong flame]

idk whats going on here but the sim that is higher also has recklessness haste?

while the lower one doesnt

[calm hollow]

lol, with a 0 count

[latent moss]

ye ive seen that on my sims too

idk what it means

oh wait

does reck pot not snapshot

[stable fiber]

it does

[latent moss]

cause if u add up crit + haste uptime its the same as penalty vers

so its not implemented correctly in simc or what

[stable fiber]

1/11 times it is using the pot on pull and proccing haste

[latent moss]

or maybe this graph is tweaking

[stable fiber]

idk

its weird

[latent moss]

isnt it a random iteration

it shows u

[strong flame]

what does topgear say

[latent moss]

for uptimes and shit or is it average

[mortal crag]

natty stats looking juicy

im at 39% with flask and oil

[slow saddle]

hmm all i can get more in gear is socket on belt else its copy of ya gear

[stable fiber]

@calm hollow your 2nd sim lost 40 strength for some reason

what happened

[mortal crag]

i could do 40% crit

[stable fiber]

lets look into it a bit perchance

[mortal crag]

but id have to play all red sockets

[calm hollow]

thats what i want to know, i dont think i changed anything

[stable fiber]

i found it

[hasty pumice]

wait

[stable fiber]

i made the same dumb mistake

dont worry

[hasty pumice]

if the crit big gem now sims better

i have to sim

[stable fiber]

you dont have a leg enchant in your 2nd sim

[hasty pumice]

all fucking

[stable fiber]

lmao

[hasty pumice]

gem variations?

because i need unique ones

[latent moss]

ye

[calm hollow]

what the actual fuck, when did i switch legs

[hasty pumice]

cringe

[mortal crag]

its a minor difference @hasty pumice

ur fine

[calm hollow]

OOOH i got speed legs, and forgot it

[stable fiber]

idk but the 2nd sim has speed legs

lmao

[strong flame]

[slow saddle]

minor is what we strive to get better at

[calm hollow]

fuck me

[hasty pumice]

eyo

[latent moss]

[stable fiber]

everything looked alright

[hasty pumice]

+0.5% from socket on PoS helmet vs my set one

big

[stable fiber]

but your strength was 40 lower

[mortal crag]

WTB> POS 22

[stable fiber]

i made the same dumb mistake when i catalysted the lura legs for leeech

i forgot to reenchant

[latent moss]

im missing a hole

next week surely

[stable fiber]

i need belt hole

[slow saddle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/38rwvGSZCTncPmTcgHhdyR y now im closer

[stable fiber]

then full bis

[latent moss]

tbh i just take hole anyway

[stable fiber]

well

[latent moss]

nothing to take from vault

[stable fiber]

and gloves

[calm hollow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r1K4eyCLmMHyLbZn1dFqx3

ok fixed

[latent moss]

fuck i need gloves too

[stable fiber]

much better

[granite swift]

anyone able to feel the slight colo difference yet?

[slow saddle]

hmm i wonder if its ya rings or the fact that u dont use the gloves with shadow dmg

[calm hollow]

ty, i totally missed that

[slow saddle]

yes in my head

[latent moss]

no

[slow saddle]

on my st

not rly

[latent moss]

i just did a np

npx

and it feels the exact same

[slow saddle]

did u play the "st'ish" build ?

[latent moss]

no

[slow saddle]

weird y... i wonder why u cant feel that FAT 3.5%

^^

[latent moss]

xdd

[granite swift]

okay fairs, were you playing colo in npx before? i usually go slayer there

[slow saddle]

small sims was like 105 Slarms 88 col

[latent moss]

it was a weekly 12

[slow saddle]

like thats a Decent gap

[granite swift]

ahhh k

[slow saddle]

ah

fack me

a NON shaman grp

guess im playin slaye

r

[latent moss]

bro

i was wondering why i was simming so low

i was simming TE st build

without te apl

[slow saddle]

TE ?

[latent moss]

tactical edge

nvm i still sim for nothing

bro how the FUCK

am i simming for 114 only

[slow saddle]

do u play TE on slarms ?

[latent moss]

in raid u can yeah

it outsims 2x bb

just warming up + te

[slow saddle]

ok

[sacred zodiac]

L NOOB

did you click vantus

[latent moss]

ye

i have npx 2set

[slow saddle]

Col is a lot of fun

[latent moss]

4 holes

290

[stable fiber]

send me sim

[latent moss]

gg

[stable fiber]

im good at these things

[latent moss]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tJJ1SXvLHzqUDUMa6n68oa

just ass gear

ig

idk

[hasty pumice]

GG

[latent moss]

gloves are shit

[hasty pumice]

[latent moss]

legs are 285 belt 285 i guess

belt holed tho

[stable fiber]

yeah ok that gear is brutal

[latent moss]

its ok i get legs from npx

surely

[stable fiber]

yo respectfully

you dont have a 2nd embellishment

idiot

[latent moss]

i have

[stable fiber]

look at your claok

[latent moss]

arcano

on belt and legs

[stable fiber]

?

[calm hollow]

[stable fiber]

resim then wtf

[dawn rose]

is it possible to see in logs what stat i got from reck potion?

[stable fiber]

this sim only has 2 crafted items

and 1 embellishment

[stable fiber]

no

not in logs

[latent moss]

OH FUCK

i forgot

axaxaxxaxa

[stable fiber]

i did a deep dive into this on beloren

since my dks where proccing haste instead of mastery

i couldnt actually see what stat it was proccing, but i knew what stat it was proccing because he was using guidon before reck pot

so it was proccing haster

which is really bad for reck pot

[fresh spire]

[stable fiber]

-60k dps in the beloren egg burn btw

[thick kelp]

noob mistake

[stable fiber]

(it matters that much)

[thick kelp]

to not make swfity macro

on that spec

[latent moss]

ok but like

surely u look at guidon

[thick kelp]

im starting lura prog tell me tips

[latent moss]

and realize it will make haste ur highest stat

[stable fiber]

his macro was using trinkets before

[latent moss]

gg

[stable fiber]

like most macros do

[latent moss]

i mean it should he should just pot before macro

[stable fiber]

he still got a rank 1 on that boss

[latent moss]

or put pot in macro

[stable fiber]

you pot before macro yes

i told him and he fixed it

then he got r1

so all is good

[latent moss]

me zug zug ahh

[stable fiber]

its so straightforward

hard to fuck up

[sacred zodiac]

guldan

[latent moss]

drop bsurge for fervor and press ww with hs up with adds to funnel on boss

[hasty pumice]

@latent moss am i doing sth wrong

the crit % gem

isnt simming better for me

lol

[granite swift]

gaze simming as slight dps loss in both ST and aoe as Colo for me, should i just leave it? im still sending rolls for it

[stable fiber]

use cds on crystals, use pot on 2nd crystals, then just use cds perma, then in p2 you save cooldowns for the very start of p3

[latent moss]

u need to sim all combinations or w/e its called

[hasty pumice]

i did

[latent moss]

idk

[hasty pumice]

you see it there

[thick kelp]

Tanks

[hasty pumice]

the crit % is below

[thick kelp]

Will parse 100 now

[hasty pumice]

just putting in regular crit

[thick kelp]

do i copy chinese or eu avatar timers

[hasty pumice]

oh wait no not even

[stable fiber]

good luck bro, if i cant beat that chinese guy then you wont

copy me yo

[sacred zodiac]

do you ava pull or save that for crystals too

[stable fiber]

save for crystals

[latent moss]

im 115k now

gg

[stable fiber]

its gonna line up anyways

[thick kelp]

you only got r1 cuz bug, china guy presses avatar at 0:13 and mogged u

[hasty pumice]

time to sim again ig it never took the crit % as an option

tf

[stable fiber]

he also has 24 characters

i have 1

[thick kelp]

Crazy consistency

[latent moss]

@stable fiber

u have to do it like this right

@hasty pumice

[stable fiber]

yes

i should check that good comms

[hasty pumice]

I did

i just checked all simmed options

[stable fiber]

well when you kill the boss 24 times a week you better be good at it eventually

[latent moss]

weird

[hasty pumice]

it never showed me the powerful eversong

[sacred zodiac]

is there even a difference

dont think ava expires before crystals do

[hasty pumice]

im turning off the 32 prim stat now

and just do the crit

to see what i get

[thick kelp]

ig so

[stable fiber]

using avatar when you have no rage on pull

is worthless

[sacred zodiac]

charge does damage

think about it

[stable fiber]

you can use it later when you have procs

and rage

[thick kelp]

Crazy idea

[latent moss]

nuke this spec ty

[sacred zodiac]

what if l'ura only had the amt of hp that charge does but only when amped by avatar

would it then be optimal to avatar charge

[latent moss]

no

she is immune

[sacred zodiac]

explain yourself before i post the gif with the pig

[latent moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170378356588552214/1508925309443899413/unknown-3-1.gif

[rapid cairn]

talents string please

[latent moss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845318240745160775/1049754429735313429/unknown-3-1.gif

[sacred zodiac]

why do you have both sides

[hasty pumice]

im simming my m+ spec

[stable fiber]

im not entirely sure how this works for the main stat only gem

[hasty pumice]

cause idc about raid damage at this point

[latent moss]

ultrawide camera lens

[hasty pumice]

1k moer or less wont change a raid fight

[latent moss]

same

[stable fiber]

ill look into it real quick

[sacred zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-rem-falling-down-stairs-ragdoll-gif-9103776461901857488

[stable fiber]

you might have to do 2 different sims

[sacred zodiac]

they recorded this footage of me

[stable fiber]

this expands my gallary of rem getting killed

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/свиняджакузі-свиня-джакузі-вода-смачного-gif-26990311

[stable fiber]

this is good

https://tenor.com/view/rem-rem-deadlock-deadlock-lash-lash-deadlock-gif-7384772685200041820

[hasty pumice]

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HFKAkF3XkAAdJ4g.mp4

[sacred zodiac]

rem is already dead in this footage fool

[latent moss]

tragic...

[sacred zodiac]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HF3xCbuWUAAbp8B.webp

[sacred zodiac]

just having a good time

[heady ridge]

guys. what do you use when simming your character ? Patchwork or Dungeon slice - Cause I'm getting different items per slot on each sim ?

[latent moss]

patchwerk only

[hasty pumice]

thats the

highest sim for the crit % gem

on ST at least

so its worse for me on col

[latent moss]

something is insanely cooked

[sacred zodiac]

dslice isnt supported but you are mostly safe just simming patchwerk unless you need very very specific sims for prog environments

[latent moss]

why is it spamming the same gem wtf

[stable fiber]

it appears you need to do 2 different sims to make it work

[latent moss]

do u have 0 haste

or

[hasty pumice]

i definitely

have enough gems lol

[stable fiber]

also they sim within 2 dps of eachother

[hasty pumice]

selected

[thick kelp]

How about you make Dslice supported

[sacred zodiac]

isnt the crit effectiveness the gem gives like completely garbage

[sacred zodiac]

not implausible that getting a stat you want is just better

[hasty pumice]

my sims

my stats*

without consumes

[sacred zodiac]

no

garbage sim style

[stable fiber]

all 4 stats are so close to eachother in full bis

[latent moss]

idk its better for me and kha

[stable fiber]

that crit effectiveness becomes better

[thick kelp]

true

[hasty pumice]

its possible that I dont have enough haste for the crit% jewel to be better

cause i have

a shit ton of crit

[stable fiber]

also just main stat only gem is 2 dps better

lmfao

its just varience

but it seems better for aoe

[fresh spire]

Crit jewel for me just wasn't better

[stable fiber]

or colossus

[hasty pumice]

let me check aoe sims

[sacred zodiac]

honestly a lot of peoples characters would be better equipped/statted if simc removed any sim style that isnt patchwerk 1 target overnight

[stable fiber]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

truth nuke

people sim for aoe and it bricks their characters

super badass

[fresh spire]

More cringe setting up an environment for classes to play perfectly

When it's just not static or somewhat predictive. Would be neat if there was a way boss encounters could be simable.

Someone find a way to make sims have variance between add from padded guilds. Grips for dks.

[stable fiber]

@grok get on that

[sacred zodiac]

i mean simc is just not compatible with that type of analysis

[stable fiber]

@latent moss https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aaoHgEZsTaVeBvs9rnPmw9
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w87K1wcrc9k6CH1seseDgB

top is main stat only
bottom is crit effectiveness

crit effectiveness scales better with better gear

so imo

it wins

2 dps holy

[gaunt owl]

this shit looks fake

[stable fiber]

that is the difference between rank 1

[latent moss]

wtf

[fresh spire]

You can set up sim environments for keys like pull count mob count. Waiting to agro etc. Like people actually make these. Full 30 min dungeon sims. But think there is a point where simulation that kind of stuff is just worthless because comp matters alot when it comes to builds.

[latent moss]

wdym fake

i filmed it

[sacred zodiac]

its real he was there

[fresh spire]

Lock in primary gems and stack haste

[stable fiber]

i fr guessed the best combo of gems by brain

i AM THE SIM

[sacred zodiac]

imo more importantly is that you just literally cannot draw value from the end result of these sims

[stable fiber]

holy SHIT

[fresh spire]

Omg my sim crit 1% more stack more critical ongomgomg

[dim basalt]

kha flabbergasted himself

[fresh spire]

It's just not worth. Generalization>=< actual

[sacred zodiac]

why'd you need 2 sims for this and how do i set this up for myself correctly

[stable fiber]

the bottom sim doesnt actually sim the main stat gem correctly

[fresh spire]

Rough ideas work better for a baseline for feelcrafting out builds for actual metrics to exist

[stable fiber]

i had these settings (ignore arrows) for 1 sim

then the 2nd sim i clicked those arrows and turned those off

then compare the 2 and whatever is higher is better

but they are within varience

so the crit effectiveness gem is better to me

[hasty pumice]

@latent moss yeah

idk

it doesnt wanna sim for me

[lost blade]

what was your st boss dmg like without funnel?

[latent moss]

fair

[hasty pumice]

76k on first guy, pretty badly played tho

I got demolish up when I couldnt use it

really bad overlaps with mechs there

on last boss i was

135k dps

but spell reflect is like 36k lmao

and the extra bird target

[hasty pumice]

yeah idk if its just

because im so giga stacked on crit that its not worth?

[stable fiber]

send me ur simc string

i fix

[hasty pumice]

the report?

[sacred zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/rem-rem-deadlock-rem-belly-slap-belly-rem-cute-gif-12236051448456911616

[stable fiber]

uh yeah u can just send me the report

i can get the string from the report

[hasty pumice]

i got 4

st with and without the gem

[stable fiber]

doesnt matter

[hasty pumice]

same for 5 targets

kk

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bz9U5cM9eGSwLLNBsHXMUo

[clever crag]

I got like 1200 crit no flask

In m+ set

[sacred zodiac]

uncontrollable urge to reveal stats in class discords

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/address-me-gif-3314967408153193330

@stable fiber for me it sims 90 dps more

xd

crit effect gem vs primary

[hasty pumice]

guys i have 2000 crit 150 haste and 2 versa

is this good?

[sacred zodiac]

sim my character

https://tenor.com/view/when-worlds-collide-slenderman-slenderman-5000-powerman-5000-worlds-collide-gif-18138207949602965438

collect my sims

[hasty pumice]

larp about to tell me

I'm a fucking dumbass

"you simmed worse than my mother did!"

[fresh spire]

[sacred zodiac]

large gem sims are just fucked in general

[hasty pumice]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-sleep-sleepy-bo2vHjsunRXY9IQLMQ

[fresh spire]

My mother was debuffed so I was born debuffed

[stable fiber]

its taking awhile

[hasty pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372158613312897036/1376317636249518170/speechmeme.com_25_05_2025_23_54_45.gif

[stable fiber]

the sims that force the same gem type suck

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-scroll-crying-depression-doomscrolling-gif-4138822033792608878

[hasty pumice]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-kitty-516

begone peasant and keep simming

[sacred zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-no-head-shake-disagree-gif-11514813752628488644

[stable fiber]

fixed it @hasty pumice

waiting on 1 more

[sacred zodiac]

i get 61 dps from doing rainbow gems

fuck off

[stable fiber]

it seems like though

crit effectiveness is +100 dps

for colo

[hasty pumice]

dont do me like that

i dont wanna buy new gemeronis

[stable fiber]

im waiting for the aoe sim!

then we see

[stable fiber]

1 TARGET 5 MINS:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f32vCwyphcmY7UQXudPKr5 (Crit Effectiveness)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hoL1w7TZhfQf9ZWDZ88bna (Main Stat)

5 TARGET 5 MINS:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5iaYrdWgks4Fxv6oJxFNMt (Crit Effectiveness)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hyarLQ5wQReMBZLrhXm6fJ (Main Stat)

crit effectiveness is the way

buy new gems

[hasty pumice]

fuck you

but thanks

[stable fiber]

ok 5:30 am bedtime

[sacred zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/ryu-yuta-ryu-vs-yuta-yuta-vs-ryu-ce-output-gif-5846708662391566748

lets larp

[hasty pumice]

madlad

bro

you simmed the w

wrong helmet

[stable fiber]

wtf u mean

wrong helmet

[hasty pumice]

this

i gave this a socket today

cause i have 4 set without helm

[stable fiber]

great

[hasty pumice]

larp is pissed

haha

[stable fiber]

i think

you just buy crit effectiveness

and grab the gems with crit as the +7 stat

[hasty pumice]

if I click sim again with yours

does it work again

like yours?

[stable fiber]

yes it should

[hasty pumice]

kk

[stable fiber]

might have to change the fight style

or targets i mean

but all 4 of those sims should keep the same settings if you click sim again

(minus the targets)

ok bedge good luck

[hasty pumice]

gn

@stable fiber yeah still simmed higher in aoe by like

200 DPS

guess its time to buy new gems

[sacred zodiac]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933386399279878154/958406649306030181/caption.gif

[latent moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/758086817730920529/1505937665386876968/image.png?ex=6a17a5fe&is=6a16547e&hm=2370c38defb1f0ddba2e830a37d79eafe86d4ee1a05c2d8603dc488a4c5a5201&

[hasty pumice]

gg

[thorn stream]

Pog

I need the other one

[balmy kindle]

Wew gz bis

[cobalt lodge]

is colossus arms pretty okay now on single target fights/bosses in m+?

[distant echo]

Its okay but still garbage

[manic marlin]

still bad st w/o funnel

[cobalt lodge]

okay then my warr goes back into the fridge ;p

[distant echo]

Slayer more fun

[thorn stream]

[latent moss]

just play slayer then

[soft peak]

this or roll

[latent moss]

idk

do u have occlusion

[soft peak]

no

but i have 2 rolls

[latent moss]

go roll first

i guess

[soft peak]

idk what to do honestly

[latent moss]

lowkey might be socket angle

do u mainly

play m+

[soft peak]

yes

[latent moss]

then the 2 set is mid

take socket

do u even need gear

u need gloves

and trinkets

[soft peak]

gloves yes

[latent moss]

spire has bis gloves

[soft peak]

i know i have to roll

[latent moss]

i would take socket there personally

[soft peak]

i took it

[hasty pumice]

@latent moss bro

simming with the new gem is a nightmare

and with the

2 set ring set bonus too

different targets means different gems and different ring combos

I'm getting a headache

i think

ignoring the ring set bonus

is the best call

1 vs 5 targets atm

just as a preview

like how tf do I handle this shit

kekw

[granite swift]

is this colo?

[hasty pumice]

yes

[granite swift]

are you doing 5 target patchwerk or hectic cleave?

[hasty pumice]

5 target patchwerk

[granite swift]

ahh okay thanks

[granite swift]

how long you doing the 5 targets sry?

[hasty pumice]

i just always sim for 5 targets

its very hard to mimic actual high key m+ with sims

[latent moss]

is it even good

[granite swift]

but like still 5min or? coz i seen some ppl do hectic add cleave 8 targets 1min 30seconds

[latent moss]

for m+

like surely its an aoe loss

tbf if u have no mastery

its prolly good

[hasty pumice]

you see the result in the sims my son mon ami

its a tiny st gain for a tiny aoe loss

like idfk

psure it doesnt matter

at all

[ionic mica]

at that point you just pick one and move on

[hasty pumice]

since the moment you have funnel crit becomes slightly worse

[ionic mica]

maybe resim if you ever change any other pieces

[hasty pumice]

I always do

[latent moss]

lowk its whatever

[hasty pumice]

but theres almost nothing to replace it with at this point

ye

the set bonus is huge on fury tho

like 0.8% ST gain

the ring set*

prolly cause you proc it a ton

[granite swift]

sry gna ask again is this for 5mins long again or less? the 5 target sim

[hasty pumice]

always 5 min

you could sink in

90h into simming every single pull

[granite swift]

alright cheers, just want a consistent way to keep simming

[hasty pumice]

best to not beat yourself up over it

ofc you will never have 5 targets 5 min fights

but rather 1 1/2 mins of 5 into 30s of 3 into 1 minute of 9

its

fucked

[granite swift]

yeah i hear you

[granite swift]

gaze is simming less in ST than current gear until i get the pit neck (which i can 100% roll if i go there now) and a slight gain in aoe, but with the neck from pit gaze is a gain slightly in both ST and aoe

should i just get the neck first and go gaze next week

i can 100% roll gaze this week too (yeah im that unlucky)

[viral fiber]

How reliable is tank agro during gathering? If I try to get stack using MS and cleave

[thick kelp]

Depends on your tank

if you see one ability, just hit some swept MS for pre stacking

[latent moss]

u can dbts to be safe

then meld

[balmy kindle]

just dont overdo it though you'll learn pretty quick

[hasty pumice]

Nah bro bad advice for new players

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-und-panzer-gup-truth-nuke-trvke-katyusha-gif-3214992808214369110

[hasty pumice]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdDQ1b3JmM2s5dGNhYWJraWw3Z21wbXdsbDNkNnN5M3lhZ3l3bml5ZiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/EYRC0Cg6lcTdn5Ubaf/giphy.gif

[latent moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945966809272692736/1507009933051301971/2026-05-2021-26-20-Medestifler-BelorenChildofAlar-Mythic-Wipeonline-video-cutter.com-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[late lantern]

What build do ppl switch to for last boss Seat? Arms ST or Fury ST

[hasty pumice]

Just slarms st

[slow saddle]

But fury st prob better

If u play both equally

And gear😅

[olive nest]

Speccing fury isn’t an option

[slow saddle]

Tbh if u go out

Respec to arms full st

Not the m+ build

[olive nest]

[warped owl]

has the sims been updated for colo buffs?

[slow saddle]

Yrs

Its still bad😅🤣

[soft peak]

ong bro, i have 290 ilv aprox 3600rio and i dont get an invite for a fucking shit easy chim myth is disgusting

[warped owl]

hasn't changed and its simming the same as yesterday

[novel raven]

dont have 2 think about it in a few weeks with sporefall ring

think our only meaningful choice thats going to look like that is windrunner gloves vs seat gloves
(and still the gems)

[rapid bronze]

how important is it to maintain the embellishments for this season? I have arcanoweave on a couple of pieces but got both a belt and bracers in bonus rolls with sockets in them

I can make arcanoweave items on cloak and boots I guess but I have myth items on those as well

[latent moss]

shouldnt do boots

u can sim for now but ideally u socket crafted bracers

[rapid bronze]

boots and cloak are the only thing that make some sense currently with myth socketed bracers already

and myth socketed belt

what's the issue with boots?

[latent moss]

highest stat budget

than bracers

[young nacelle]

Any tips on source of information to learn arms warrior dps rotation in pve?

[latent moss]

wowhead

[warped owl]

wowhead for arms

[hasty pumice]

I guess good point lol

[young nacelle]

alright ty, felt like the one from wowhead was different than from the ones i saw on youtube in M+ but i guess i should check again

[warped owl]

videos can be outdated and I think wowhead guide is up to date

[cunning smelt]

Apparently the cloak sims best...

[latent moss]

craft cloak

[cunning smelt]

already have crafted bracers and weapon

I wanna take gloves but probably doesnt sim well because I will lose tier piece?

[ionic mica]

you could add a catalysed version of whatever offpiece you have that isnt gloves

tier gloves are pretty meh

[latent moss]

@thick kelp

2 rolls

2 rings

gg

or

[olive nest]

[slow saddle]

Tbf did u kill him? + keep in mind pugs want 4 dks 4 warlocks🤣🫡

[sour compass]

during execute i basically spam exe until either heroic or mortal strike is available right?

[thick kelp]

gg

[slow saddle]

M+ ? Slayer or raid slayer?

[sour compass]

ah sry sry - Slayer ST Raid

[sacred zodiac]

im angry

[slow saddle]

So

Rage matters

[sacred zodiac]

just ended top dps on the damage amp boss on npx as col 💪

[slow saddle]

But y exe>ms>op

[sacred zodiac]

this definitely isnt veiled flaming

[sour compass]

ok ty

[thick kelp]

Holy your team must suck ass

[slow saddle]

Everything critted

Must be why

[sage badge]

Arms owns

[umbral linden]

[main adder]

its crazy how differently col and slayer feel.

I'm just now leveling an arms warrior for the first time, so that's just initial vibes though.

[thick kelp]

[sacred zodiac]

i said veiled

[thick kelp]

mhm

[uncut lagoon]

Slayer is just chilling, col is constant praying the tank doesnt move

How it feels for me atm at least as a new warrior

[main adder]

I just really like execute and bladestorm too.

it's probably not optimal but I think I'm going to just slam slayer in m+ since it's like a 3rd alt.

[sour compass]

if I dont Raid I craft feet right?

[slow saddle]

Why?

[sour compass]

because none have bis stats from anywhere as I can see

[copper swan]

catalyze any boots

[sour compass]

no crit/haste feet

ah!

[copper swan]

they are haste crit

[sour compass]

cool I forgot about that 🙂

[copper swan]

🫡

[sour compass]

that I can flux them too haha

[mortal crag]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hzHvtkA6nY9PBpF3?fight=last&type=damage-done @latent moss

2 deaths btw

unstoppable throat goat gameplay

[dim basalt]

SR #1 damage on last boss gg

[opal trout]

Is there a sweeping strikes addon to display it like the fury whirlwind stacks from SenseiResourceBar? I tried to code it in myself but I'm wondering if its a secret value and that's why I couldn't find an addon

[mortal crag]

so u want

a bar

that has 12 ticks

?

[jade fossil]

Enhance QOL

Do you want it to display something like this? Sorry for the HDR contrast crap

[opal trout]

I want it to gray out when I don't have any stacks but not have it tied to having all the rest of my edit mode buffs also show when they aren't active. I like the bars since I already use it for WW but I will check out the enhance qol to see if that's what i'm looking for too

[dim basalt]

Aint seeing bars here

[jade fossil]

My bad, you want to show a bar that ticks down?

[reef prairie]

Just make a weakaura :)

[crystal nexus]

how much of a dps increase would colossus multitarget get if heroic strike also gave a stack of colossal might

[sick badge]

same talents? or any changes after buff?

[hearty stump]

hello anyone knows what % thye buff is in st and aoe?

[copper swan]

#updates-midnight

3.5 st and 1.5 multi for colo arms

[paper dove]

does that increase even do anything

like 3,5% on top of low damage is still only 3,5% more of the low damage

[flat willow]

yeah, it makes you do 1 gorillion damage on 3 targets

[vagrant hull]

I'm pretty sure it makes your number go up by 3.5 & 1.5%

[onyx gust]

well i think those are bis

[potent drum]

Thats EQOL? Looks cool

[jade fossil]

Yep, you can do quite a bit with it. It takes a second to get used to but it has a lot of the same functionality of WA's

[minor gust]

Makes Colo 3.5% better in ST

[potent drum]

Thanks!
Was using Ayijecdm so do something similar but it doesn't have the glow

[jade fossil]

👍

[latent moss]

@thick kelp

i love arms

doing less in exe

btw

me when the execute spec does less damage in execute

[rare kite]

what fight is this

[latent moss]

vorasius

u know how u hit exe and ur dps should start going up

mine was going down

👍

i was doing like 130k pre exe

ended at 119k

very cool

very in my control

👍

skill issue i guess

[wide apex]

you suck bro

focus up

[rare kite]

crit rng? on my bel kill ms crit was garbage, 31%

[latent moss]

truth nuke

[feral breach]

https://tenor.com/view/milj-milk-skill-issue-spill-issue-spill-gif-25572474

[latent moss]

no its just

0 rage

perma

[rare kite]

[latent moss]

was the same last week idk whats up

its so tilting

[rare kite]

yea they really need to buff rage gen. lowkey surprised it hasn't happened yet

[minor gust]

12.1 rage post will save us

🙏

[foggy hamlet]

can someone send an Sweeping strikes thing for Enhance QoL ? idk how it works

[frosty leaf]

What are you using for the rest of your ui? I've got my sweeping strikes set up as a bar in arcui and could send you an export if youre using that, wouldnt advise installing it just for one bar tho

[flat willow]

may I interest you in a very good spec that does a lot of execute damage and outside of execute damage

[foggy hamlet]

i dont play with addons at all atm. I just need something to show stacks of Sweeping strikes, and when it is at low stacks to blink or anything like that

[umbral linden]

default ui enhanced qol? just turn on the buff tracking, it is there

in cooldown manager, if i remember correctly

[foggy hamlet]

Hmm Only see cooldown manager where nothing is inside

[green prism]

Does the colossus buff mean we run it in dungeons that would previously favour slayer?

[minor gust]

If you want too. There is no hard rule on this stuff. You can play both specs in every key because both are good.

[gentle gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1454617604978245776/1509156566643773500/magnifying-glass-gem.gif

[late lantern]

So if i roll on for mythic gaze as arms (4 possivle items) and i get 1 that is common with other specs aswell (Prot) does that mean that if i reroll as prot next week i cant get that item anymore or is the loot table spec based?

[proven veldt]

it's spec based, and blizzard did a shit job of communicating this

(I learned the hard way)

[ionic mica]

you are better off rolling at prot every time on chimaerus

if you havent already rolled as arms

[eager sable]

if you switch to a different lootspec, you switch to a fresh loot availability and can then get duplicates

[proven veldt]

but yea, there's no reason to ever roll as non-prot on chim

[late lantern]

Yeah i forgot to switch... fuck me

[slow saddle]

Ive posted personal rage bait for 4 seasons

Best season rage wise i remember was sl s02

[thick kelp]

Same

[latent moss]

0 rage

all of exe phsae

👍

[lavish forum]

anybody who can help a friend with arms? just picked it up last week and wondering what is going wrong to have this kind of dps
chima kill and wipe using the exe phase we read about:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rBdHxknh219JFvat?fight=7&type=damage-done&source=1030
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rBdHxknh219JFvat?fight=6&type=damage-done&source=1030

and on vorasius too, last weeks (2d ago) (didnt know about the exe phase thingy)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YKWPH9BNDbanx2Gz?fight=12&type=damage-done&source=231
and today
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3NQ6kvH9YBgpJGfW?fight=7&type=damage-done&source=183

as we read here in disc should be focusing on execute spam during the exe phase but it seems to be rather low damage, just want to improve and we are clueless about the spec

[thick kelp]

Very vague to say "The exe phase we read about"

[latent moss]

i mean in the first one he isnt doing low dmg

well first of all he is playing wrong talents

taking 0 aoe on chim is kinda troll

[thick kelp]

hc chim

[latent moss]

considering the fact u can take broad strokes and powerful momentum for not much st loss

ye but sitll

u can take broad strokes

at least

well actually

i didnt see it was hc

[thick kelp]

powerfull maybe

[latent moss]

gear also pretty mid

heart of wind and prism

no gaze or vorasius heart

[lavish forum]

Working on getting those but no luck

[latent moss]

also need

to know what this refers to

with his talents u ms with 2x ep always

if thats what ure referring to

[neat locust]

hello beautiful ppl,

So is collosu the go to in m+ and raids now or?

[spark mango]

slayer raid, colossus m+, with exception of paladins and dragons on mythic

[steep citrus]

i think we've made it to almost perfection team https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kikpaVMf9sw6r8c1mJJK5B

[foggy hamlet]

hey can someone help me why i dont do dmg as colossus 280? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVvSMTXLx7E. (random gameplay)

[neat locust]

did we get a crit squish? was sitting on 1100 crit now only 999

[steep citrus]

mine looks normal - did your flask fall off?

[neat locust]

fml it wasmy flask. i swear i wanna drown myself for my stupidity sometimes

[steep citrus]

hahaha no worries!

[neat locust]

thank you, love ur profile pic btw XD

[steep citrus]

thanks lmao

[thorn stream]

Frozenbozo The Savior of Rage inc ?

[solemn turret]

I miss something wrong or

i'm doing more overpower on vora than exec

seems recurent on raid boss

[minor gust]

Gonna require massive participation from the warrior discord for this one

[solemn turret]

do we press overpower on cd or managing rage with it ?

[thorn stream]

https://klipy.com/gifs/im-doing-my-part-serious

[reef prairie]

I dont even play arms in raid anymore it feels so ass

[minor gust]

Wowhead has got you covered on priority. But for the most part it's a feel thing. Exe at high rage and weave in ops to not potentially rage starve yourself

[solemn turret]

Thanks, thats what i'm trying to do, but damn st rota feels weird, i'm doing fine in m+ but when it's raid i sucks

[novel raven]

wondering if im rlly dumb but looking at the .7 patch borrowed power

we might be the only class in the game that assuming its not overtuned, would just take the second wind rune instead of the stagger rune

[undone aurora]

When think about logs in mythic plus do you primarily look at the per key level. Bc I get a lot of greens and greys which feels shit but that’s per key level which is 19s or 20s

Am I just looking at logs wrong or do I need to improve a lot

[novel raven]

all that stagger rune is going to do is break stance mastery and make dstance only 15% dr instead of 30%

[undone aurora]

Like obvs the overll parse is like orange or pink but per key level it’ll be grey

[minor gust]

M+ parses are a meme I would not use that as any indicator of performance

[solemn turret]

hardly sitting on green/blue par ilvl on mythic raid

[undone aurora]

Okay I see, bc we spoke the other day and I have improved my dmg a lot

[solemn turret]

feeling my damage are so low

[undone aurora]

I can get like 180k 190k etc now overall

But like sometimes it’s like 160k and that’s grey

I think I should just be serene and stop driving myself insane over a number

It’s just I worry abt it affecting my ability to get into groups

But then again

That doesn’t happen in 20s anyway

I just run my own key now

[minor gust]

Gotta remember there's a lot more that goes into the final overall number than just your dmg

Group comp, tank, pulls, other player skill, etc

[undone aurora]

Yeah that’s true

[wind flicker]

a lot of our dmg comes from tanks

[undone aurora]

I’ve noticed my damage can change drastically depending on if it’s a good tank or not

[wind flicker]

If you play a physical round designed for warri ur gonna do a lot more

[wind flicker]

Yes

[undone aurora]

Especially when it comes to the mob spread

[reef prairie]

I wonder how strong this borrowed power stuff is

[undone aurora]

And how quickly they gather

[wind flicker]

Also having 3 targets on bosses etc

[undone aurora]

Yeah I noticed a lot of bosses I get pure single target

And I watch my overall drop by like 20k on those bosses

I should just stop being a numbercel and be a chad button presser

Gotta get my head out of the stats

[reef prairie]

Id get warcraft recorder and just watch back your gameplay somewhat regularly

Can record whatever mistakes you make and be like "yea I coulda done this better"

[cunning smelt]

tier gloves are indeed meh, but doesnt explain to me why I would do less dmg...is it because im simming it wrong?

[reef prairie]

Also, make your tanks link route

And yell at them to pull funnel

[minor gust]

Indeed enjoy the game more focus on your own play and doing things right like good button presses, kicking, defensive usage, and worry a lil less about the actual numbers. All that matters is you do more dmg than the other two DPS in the grp

[undone aurora]

Tbh overall I think I’m doing pretty well

Like it’s not title but I have to be doing somewhat right for 19s and 20s

[novel raven]

99% of the time ppl talk about how the tank needs to play around their CDs or they cant do dmg in m+ they are coping and making excuses. But warrior ACTUALLY can not do dmg if the tank (and the grp) doesnt play around giving you funnel

[undone aurora]

I’m just very conscious about how others view my stats and whether that will prevent me grouping or so on

[reef prairie]

A high majority of tanks will be open to playing funnel for you though

Literally just make them link route then tell them to pull a pack onto boss

[minor gust]

Correction Colo can't slayer can

[novel raven]

yes, but the layers of how much funneling we do just keep getting crazier

[novel raven]

correct

[reef prairie]

Ye ofc, you can funnel every boss of skyreach but a pug 19 provably isnt doing that

[novel raven]

like, for the last month every tank would pull the 2 groundskeepers into 1st boss windrunner

[reef prairie]

But something like pit of saron

[novel raven]

but now, we are CCing those 2 groundkeepers and pulling 3 mobs from the other room

[undone aurora]

On a positive note I find colossus really fun and satisfying

[reef prairie]

It is very easy to funnel those bosses

[novel raven]

and then when the 3 from other room die and we break CC and get the 2 groundskeepers

[undone aurora]

Never very well versed in slarms outside of raid

[reef prairie]

Colossus is great I just wish demolish was a little less cringe

[novel raven]

top keys have alrdy doubled the amount of funnel they were getting, and pug tanks are not caught up on the full degen funnel

[reef prairie]

Yea but you dont need full degen funnel

Just some helps

You can funnel 3 bosses in windrunner very easily

If you just ask

[minor gust]

It shoulda always been like ret Templar strikes and been a 3 part combo all half gcd instead of a channel