arms

[hasty pumice]

Others don't

[latent moss]

this is why i think mass execution is underrated

[novel raven]

thats a pull where entire grp getting healed, an extra 30% just means you get even more ignored by the healer

[latent moss]

it helps kill packs quicker when everyone runs out of def cds

[hasty pumice]

Warrior and druid are like the only classes that have endless Def resources

[novel raven]

who gets 2 put globals into others

[novel raven]

i dont actually play with much feral

u just mean bear+regen?

[ionic mica]

also the people you are talking about arent pressing dbts as a def anyway probably

[hasty pumice]

You're telling me you're in +23 windrunner

As warrior

[ionic mica]

its just sat off cd forever

[hasty pumice]

And you don't play with feral a lot

?

This ain't adding up

[novel raven]

im 4k

playing war/dk/rogue

and pugging

but yes, pugging more than anything i end up with war/dk/ret and war/rogue/ret

good ferals just dont exist

(also lets you just play bear)

[latent moss]

where is monk if u play bear

[novel raven]

u jsut dont have buff

[latent moss]

👍

lets lose 5% dmg

[novel raven]

lol, idk what this convo became but whatever

[lucid atlas]

bear/shami/ww monk pog 😛

[novel raven]

your right Bear/Sham/Dk/ret/war just not a real comp

[latent moss]

W ww monk

dies to 2 ticks of a random aoe

[wide apex]

Yeah defense disparity is pretty bad rn

[flat willow]

it's the 2 phases of world of warcraft

mop-style expansion where everyone has good cds and a lot of buttons and people cry about " homogenization "

followed by wod-style expansion where abilities were pruned ( but some classes kept theirs ) and people cry about balance being wack and specs feeling boring

[novel raven]

WW dmg i think is actually insane rn, everytime i play with WW in 20/21s they fuck

especially good in like, AA and seat

but they do truly just die to anything

[onyx gust]

not bad i think

[wind flicker]

Imagine ur surprise to hear that yday not 1 but 2 warriors were in a spire 23, and even more so TOGETHER 😮

[misty yew]

plater seems to be blocking my combat numbers is there a way to sort this as im seeing no numbers on my cris

crits

[hasty pumice]

Were we holding hands?

[tranquil swift]

Happy buff day

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-posing-flexing-muscles-patrick-gif-4597271749464047578

[dim basalt]

NA?

EU definitely has a lot of pretty good ferals

[onyx gust]

eu have every good class

[novel raven]

ya, and ofc its hyperbole to some extent, but besides survival, its probably the viable partner i play with the least

[dim basalt]

ye there are barely any hunters in higher rio

[novel raven]

80% of the brews rerolled bear

[dim basalt]

This is from almost a week ago

[novel raven]

and when pugging i think ret/war/dk/bear is just by far the easiest thing to actually land on now

[dim basalt]

(credits to LofiBanshee)

There are more ferals than hunters in total lmao

[wind flicker]

Yeah i was holding hands with crit

[hasty pumice]

Nice

Did he show a bit of emotion?

Just a sliver?

[onyx gust]

how parse are counted? pure dmg?

[wind flicker]

I dunno i was busy with my own stream

[lean geode]

Raid or M+?

[onyx gust]

m+

[lean geode]

By default I think it's by "points" which is essentially the same as rio, so if you're doing generally high key levels, your parse will be pretty high regardless of your performance

[balmy kindle]

whats a safe io to hit for umbral champion res 20 >?

[latent moss]

4.2k

[olive nest]

4500

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-und-panzer-gup-truth-nuke-trvke-katyusha-gif-3214992808214369110

[lean geode]

You can also look at "damage" which should be your damage %ile for that key level relative to other players of the same spec in the same dungeon on the same key level

[wind flicker]

Probably 4200-4300

Since we’re gonna get loads of gear

[balmy kindle]

sheesh that inflated eh

[wind flicker]

We’re gonna get like 4 more 298 items

[olive nest]

We get more 298 gear from the .07 raid

Ilvl is going to be big

[wind flicker]

Blizzard timegating m+ like always

[balmy kindle]

forcing you to stay subbed and grind io

[leaden garnet]

I had a tank die on a +10 AA karma key (got knocked off the platform by the wind elemental miniboss) and with def stance up I actually managed to tank the mob from 50% hp to dead

Fairly comfortably too

Def stance + stance mastery really is kind of insane

[latent moss]

classic warrior

hello our goal is to prune classes

in midnight

so we will give warriors more tools

im not complaining

[leaden garnet]

Mhmm

Being able to play an auxillary tank role is such a satisfying part of the class fantasy

Once in Legion I taunted a boss right before enrage and popped DBTS to give the raid a few extra seconds of DPS - just enough that we actually got the kill

Easily one of the highlights of my raiding career

[latent moss]

tarragrue ahh

peak first boss

lie about having to wait for some reason

then get powers i want

[balmy kindle]

it is, you live through so many BS

[latent moss]

its basically a wall

[fallow notch]

An Youtuber said that rend is not that important anymore, thats Bullshit or?

[onyx gust]

and for raid?

[lean geode]

For raid it's mostly how much damage you did on that fight/difficulty relative to other players on your spec, but there are some things that are excluded from rankings (generally damage that is irrelevant to actually progressing the fight, like damage done to salhadaar orbs that don't actually die)

[onyx gust]

okay so for m+ only key lvl matter and raid for pure dmg

got it

[balmy kindle]

in m+ its fine to be 3rd or 2nd if dmg is relatively close, no use padding overall with colo if it doesnt help you time the key Colo is still amazing if your tank gives you funnel though

[onyx gust]

i was just curious how to fix parses

but yeah still need to learn rotation 120k overall is not good xD

but logs show 120k details 150k

dont know why but yeah

[balmy kindle]

i mean if you are 120k and the other guys are like 180k 200k yeah for sure haha

[onyx gust]

nah they are pretty always under me or we are close to each other

[balmy kindle]

but if its low key, tank is pulling slow and you guys are within 10k -20k its ok

[onyx gust]

its something like that pretty always

[balmy kindle]

well there's definitely room for improvement but m+ dmg overalls do boil down to how the tank pulls etc as well

[onyx gust]

yeah sadly

i dont even look at logs dmg rn cause lot of deaths happens

mine or team

dont matter still wipe

[balmy kindle]

like if you ask me colo is easier to do bigger overalls , demo and cleave really fucks

but slayer can help pug groups overcome bosses

[onyx gust]

i just dont like demo playstyle totally not for me

i dont feel comfort with it

[balmy kindle]

well you are in luck, slayer is pretty nice atm and i would argue if u are still starting out in the 12-15s range, its likely the better spec

[onyx gust]

i preffer to do lower dmg but have any fun from game

[balmy kindle]

people die randomly to bosses and u can wind up last dps standing

[onyx gust]

someone says slayer will be dog shyt after reset

idk where he get taht info

but im worried

[olive nest]

???

Slayer isn’t getting worse on reset

Colo just gets more dps

[balmy kindle]

lolol doubt it, colo just got better but slayer is still gucchi

[onyx gust]

buff slayer not colo

ok?ok

[onyx gust]

im doing like ~90k st

not every time but yeah

[balmy kindle]

i personally went through the earlier keys as colo and it was quite miserable when people die and i am slowing burning the boss at 50-60kish ST

so while i liked demolish, was very happy when execute got giga buffed

[onyx gust]

with my perfomance i do less aoe dmg with demolish than slayer

lack of knowledge of rotation

[olive nest]

Slayer owns because you can carry the dungeon easier

Good boss damage

[flat willow]

but with colossus you can pad

and everyone loves padding

[balmy kindle]

someone has to do the dirty work of killing bosses and prior adds

[onyx gust]

what u mean by padding

[latent moss]

colo does more prio dmg

[balmy kindle]

ok for thrash pulls i agree but on bosses u really need extra targets

[latent moss]

thats the definition of prio dmg

colo with 2 extra targets does more boss damage than slayer

[sudden owl]

Is that still true now that u spam execute as slayer

[latent moss]

yes

gap will widen on reset

[balmy kindle]

will give the boss dmg colo build more runs after patch myself, think MS gona hit extra hard now

[latent moss]

st still wont be good

[onyx gust]

according to that i think i sitll use to much MS and too rarely execute

[latent moss]

ur thinking is correct

just dont press ms on aoe

[onyx gust]

i just happens

[latent moss]

press it if u cant op or exe or cleave

[onyx gust]

need to cut off my finger that press MS on aoe

[balmy kindle]

also blue man buff helps

like REALLY help

[latent moss]

if ure not playing with one

ure trolling anyway

[onyx gust]

ah u mean skyfury?

[balmy kindle]

yes skyfury

[onyx gust]

i was playing with it

so thats why

im thinking about it

XD

what i did wrong

[balmy kindle]

There's a build variation in case you dont have blue man but its sub optimal

like our spec really wants blue man buff

[onyx gust]

i know

sadly its hard to find shaman at low keys

so my 150k dps overall could be way more if i dont use fck MS on aoe got it

oh my 251 MS and only 133 cleaves GG

[balmy kindle]

yea thats too much, press cleave and OP more

[onyx gust]

i need to find tell me when addon or some similar

i forgot to use cooldowns sometimes cause i dont see they're up

[balmy kindle]

personally you can add the audio cue for sweeping strikes lol, helps to remind you to use SS

since sweeping OP is alot of the aoe

[onyx gust]

lol how

[balmy kindle]

cant show you cause cant login, but its part of the Cooldown manager settings

[onyx gust]

somewhere there?

[hidden sluice]

open ur cdm and right click the SS Icon and add a new alert

[balmy kindle]

also enable combat audio alerts

[onyx gust]

u have it setup " On Aura Removed" ?

[balmy kindle]

yeah iirc, something like when the buff ends play the sound

[onyx gust]

yeah

i wish i could change ivona voice and her speed

those option dosent apply to cdm sadly

[balmy kindle]

lolol i just use text to speech

[onyx gust]

now i think rotation was good

[viral fiber]

Our funnel damage coming from 3+ target cleave spam right?

Do we have any other funnel damage besides cleave?

[balmy kindle]

demolish by building off MS crits

[lyric hazel]

Hi all! I haven’t played arms for a few expacs and I have noticed my CDs being offset a ton in keys. I know demolish should be used in CS windows but should I be holding it to ensure that happens?

[balmy kindle]

you can send demolish if next CS is like 20+ secs away, happens a fair bit now

[viral fiber]

How demolish is funnel? Isnt it same for ST and MT?

[flat willow]

demolish has way more cdr when hitting multiple enemies

[balmy kindle]

Basically without additional targets to sweep from you cant really build stacks fast, but when you do you can really funnel MS crits into demolish due to rapid stack building (colossal might)

[viral fiber]

I see

[balmy kindle]

The caeveat is you need to bring thrash into bosses to achieve this

[severe glacier]

There is also the extend of CS from our tier set

[rustic igloo]

Is it "mandatory" to always strive to use Ravager alongside CS + Avatar or is ok to use only with CS? or are we talking net dmg loss on the overall? might be a dumb question but i kinda wanna know how you guys reason!

[hasty pumice]

It's okay to also just use it with CS, you don't want to giga delay stuff and ligning up every possible cd on arms is almost impossible

If avatar is like 5 seconds away it's fine

To wait

But if it's 30s away don't bother waiting

[rustic igloo]

Alright, kinda makes sense given the CDR talent but with some testing on dummies for 10m with both ways the method holding avatar seems to yield a higher dps output over 10M

[rancid willow]

Getting tanks to funnel in pugs is like 1 in 20…

[dire hinge]

Just remember that dummies aren't great tools to see realistic timings. Many dungeons have downtime while you run from pack to pack, while 10min of target dummies do not. Those periods of downtime let your ravager cooldown at the same rate as CS/Avatar (since youre not benefitting from Anger Management) and indirectly help a realign them a bit

[paper gulch]

Has raidbots updated with the patch

[daring copper]

Hello! What is a blanket spec you would recommend for me to play in my heroic raid prog friends group? (All raids) I'm going to use m+ to practice this spec as I like to just play one spec for ease of play and raid mechanic simplicity. Thanks for any info!

[novel hare]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nZKzAcSSkWURehva1BD6YT

why am i simming so low

[nova marsh]

probally because ur simming colo

on st

[novel hare]

Just seems insane that i sim 115k on single target on fury kek

[nova marsh]

sim slayer

get actual st

[inland spire]

Hey, anyone know anything about СDM sounds? I installed a sound effect, but I'm getting an error when the buff for sweeping strikes disappears. But for some reason, the sound plays intermittently. There are 128 sound channels. Does anyone know what's wrong and how to set it up?

[lost lily]

Guild had a little debate so I figured I'd ask you guys. What class/spec needs skyfury the just.
Arms, Ret,Outlaw, Fury.

[nova marsh]

Not outlaw

Absoutlely not fury

In terms of borderline required to function it's just ret and arms

Most other melees it's just kinda nice to have

[opal trout]

Why does the sudden death priority change in execuse phase for collosus? I can't find any talent or interaction that changes from outside of execuse to inside execute so I don't understand why it would change priority

[little cypress]

Ret benefits it more than arms but only by a few pp

[nova marsh]

Which is wild

I think it's absoutlely hilarious blizz removed the skyfury limitation on crusading

[shell arch]

is it normal for the haste mastery weapon sim higher than crit haste one?

[spark mango]

but now the talent reduces paladin attack speed by 20% to compensate for it

the reason its a huge gain for them this season is that their apex is tied to their proc

[halcyon valve]

seeing as this is within the margin of error, you might see the crit haste weapon above the haste mastery one if you simply sim it again with the same settings

[dire hinge]

are you talking about #7 here?
If so, it's because colossus deeply struggles with rage generation and prioritizing free spells (SD/Overpower) help prevent you from getting rage starved, while equally buffing your MS)

[vagrant hull]

Have people simmed colossus ST since the update? Seems like a 3.5% increase will not bring it up to par with slayer ST.

But that's a pure guess

[spark mango]

colossus should neever do as much as slayer on st

[dire hinge]

it's not really supposed to catch it fully up to slayer ST

it's just "less bad compared to before"

[vagrant hull]

gotcha

[distant echo]

Ravager before cs? Hello???

Ahhahaha

[spark mango]

its the right way to do it

[dire hinge]

yeah?

[distant echo]

Why?

Less seconds to spend cleave on ravager

[spark mango]

you can't give global to rend and ravager during cs

thats why you do it before

[dire hinge]

because Ravager itself does dogshit dps, and you dont want to waste globals inside your CS window

[tranquil swift]

It’s early but how does col feel lol

[distant echo]

Yeah but ravager makes ut cleave go kaboom

Urs*

[spark mango]

you dont lose ravager buff, you can even demolish while its up and you still do more damage than actually casting it during the window

warbreaker is your biggest cooldown and you take advantage of every precious second of it

[distant echo]

The ravager buff is only during its up or have i missed something

Warbreaker more valuable yall say

[dire hinge]

Ravager lasts 9.5 seconds and it's more worthwile to lose maybe one global in your Cleave window compared to losing a CS global

[deft bluff]

Huh 194k avg on a POS 18 (bliz meters)

Did i clap?

[distant echo]

Ait bro, might help my dps abit there

[spark mango]

i miss unhinged on colossus tbh

[midnight reef]

How much was the buff ? % wise

[spark mango]

everything felt nice on colossus on s3 tww

[vagrant hull]

Man I was really liking slayer, but I may have to try colossus again in m+ and see how it feels

From the Updates channel -
Regardless, Colossus gains ~3.5% in single target and 1.5% in multitarget, while Thane gains ~2% single and 3.5% multitarget. @Warrior Updates

[vagrant hull]

^

[celest iris]

Are yall using the crit strike effectiveness gem? I just gemmed all my gear and was thinking about swapping to it

[heavy marlin]

Hey im tryin to use archon to look into when i should use cd's and i cant find when im supposed to be using colossus smash, any tips?

[spark mango]

i do 32 primary

[dire hinge]

same, but sim it yourself

[spark mango]

for what scenario are you asking this question?

[fresh spire]

primary is strong, also 0 brain to sort your gems

[dire hinge]

it's not a huge difference either way so your call if you wanna blow all that gold for small gains on gems

[heavy marlin]

Raiding in general ig, pushing to get more gear for prot and it shares alot of stats w/ arms so im tryin to swing over from a fury standpoint

[dire hinge]

raid you're basically using it on cooldown, unless you know an add pack is coming in a few seconds

if you want to see if there's specific timings you should hold CDs in raid for, you can always check out Lorrgs
https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/warrior-arms/imperator-averzian?difficulty=heroic

[spark mango]

so for raiding you generally are playing slayer arms, for slayer arms you have 3 major cds, bladestorm, avatar and warbreaker, you pretty much send warbreaker on cooldown, the 2 other cooldowns should always go with your warbreaker. so for example there is 1 minute remaining on your bladestorm and your avatar and warbreaker is up you send it, you also send bladestorm with warbreaker, or all 3 togheter but you never send avatar or bladestorm without warbreaker

[heavy marlin]

that link doesnt work :/

[spark mango]

and you pretty much dont sit long on warbreaker

also bladestorm casts mortal strike so it extends your warbreaker, so if it comes off cooldown and like 5 seconds of your warbreaker is remaining, you can cast it and extend the warbreaker

[dire hinge]

link doesn't work? should work fine unless you're in a blocked country or something

[opal trout]

I guess I'm just confused that SD > OP inside execute but OP > SD outside of execute. Not that it's a large differece. I think the Maxroll guide was still saying to prio execute over MS unless you had 2 stacks of that one buff or CS was up so I wasn't sure what the reasoning for flipping the prio was

[dire hinge]

to put it simply: it just does more damage that way in sims

[heavy marlin]

Okay im gettin it with the cds, but hows the fill workin with arms? i can imagine exe/mortal on cd, and heroic strike as it procs, but how does overpower and slam play into the fill?

[dire hinge]

arms is not designed well, nor does it follow Midnight's simplified rotation ideology and that's just kind of how Arms is right now
it dont make a lot of sense and it's a bunch of competing priorities in a trenchcoat

[distant echo]

Isnt rend the first ability to use in rotation

Before ravager

Yeah arms is fked up

[dire hinge]

you do Overpower over Slam for filler.

• If you take Battlelord (talent), then Overpower has a chance to reset Mortal Strike's cooldown.
  • If you do not take Battlelord, it's still good to Overpower because it buffs your next Mortal Strike damage (Martial Prowess, if taken)
• All rage spend (ie: Slam) has a chance to reset Overpower's cooldown (tactician)

in an oversimplified way its basically:
Heroic Strike > (Execute / Mortal Strike / Cleave) > Overpower > Slam

[spark mango]

we talking slayer raid here, you talking colossus dungeon. you generally want to use rend before Cs in aoe and refresh it on pandemic

[spark mango]

i do this but i slam>overpower when i'm capping on rage. is it wrong?

my damage is generally great but i do mostly heroic

[dire hinge]

pre-execute phase it's normal to cap on rage

the only rage conditions in the APL are for execute phase, for context

[spark mango]

ok, i sometimes do these calculation in my head like, so overpower is 22k damage, slam is 14k, slam gives me cd reduction and if it crits and applies deep wound it can make it even with overpower

since both give martial prowess

[dire hinge]

i wouldn't trust napkin math tbh, that's why sims exist

[surreal spade]

collossus build stays the same?

[spark mango]

i dont do it when i have 2 overpower charges tho,

so in the end i might not lose anything

[dire hinge]

at no point in the APL do we currently check for how many stacks of Overpower you have either

if you have access to Overpower, just cast it

that's across all builds and target count

[spark mango]

yeah thats what i've been doing to great extent anyways

[mortal crag]

IMAGINE

I WANT TO MAKE A VIDEO

I TIME SR22

ONE SHOT

NO RESIL

FULL PUG 0 COMMS

I EVEN REFLECT LAST BOSS

wowrecorder isnt on

._.

[spark mango]

Ragish, congrats on timing Seat 22

can you give me some tips on reflecting last boss safely

[tough tangle]

I love your server tag

[latent moss]

mental overhead for no reason

op charges mean nothing

for me personally

reducing mental overhead increased my dmg the most ngl

just thinking less about rotation and pressing based on feeling

you could sim this with a custom apl but as long as ure cleaving on cd

and pressing 3 random buttons that arent slam

in between

[hybrid needle]

I hate the second boss in MC when you dont get funnel

[latent moss]

u will do 95% of possible damage

[latent moss]

shoot the tank

:caught:

[distant echo]

Ngl the other 4 dungeons of midnight are better than this seasons

Isnt it confirmed next raid will be amani trolls

[wind hatch]

the patch zone is an amani island but we dont know what the raid will be

also murder row sucks

[distant echo]

Beside that dungeon

I dont wanna job at a resturant as a fearless warrior

[latent moss]

den

[distant echo]

That one is cool

[latent moss]

by far the least enjoyable dung ive done this season

[distant echo]

Bc of the ice thingy?

[latent moss]

yes

[minor gust]

gg

[latent moss]

and packs seem

kanker

[latent moss]

bro went from asking about collat tech in tww to oneshotting 22s...

goat king

baze level lock in

[minor gust]

I cant wait for them to leave the mini game in M+ and not let us skip it

[distant echo]

[latent moss]

another place for all our buffs to fall off

👍

algethar isnt ragebait enough

me when i have to edge hs on eagles before crawth

oops cant cleave

cause it will consume hs

👍

[pulsar frost]

Man I hope the non midnight dungeons next season is good since den and murder rows gonna be ass next season

[latent moss]

den has banger trinket

[pulsar frost]

Who cares about trinket when dungeons itself is cheeks

[latent moss]

hoooly

[minor gust]

That's why the took the ability to track the apex buff for increased CS

[latent moss]

idk why they dont make it

permanent

its such a fucking huge effect

its legit just 15% more damage

[minor gust]

Because we don't get qol we get cbt

[latent moss]

classic arms

a friend made a warrior alt and i told him to only play arms (based)

he said arms is the worst spec to ever grace the game

gg

[minor gust]

Lmao

[hybrid needle]

he wasnt worthy

[latent moss]

i told him

arms is an acquired taste

[minor gust]

He just didn't play enough to feel the goat moments

[latent moss]

especially colo (he played colo despite me telling him not to)

[hybrid needle]

Colo is cewl

[dire hinge]

going into colossus with no pretext does sound like putting your hand into the box of pain

[minor gust]

He was probably hitting dummies with low Crit rage starving

Hating his life

[rose matrix]

You rage starve on dummies with high crit

[latent moss]

exactly what happened

xddddd

[latent moss]

skill issue

keep rend up with bloodsurge

ez

[hybrid needle]

I love colo. If there wasnt the ST

[latent moss]

unless u mean st

even without shaman all u have to do to not starve on aoe

is pool before opening

and keep rend up

[rose matrix]

Are you pooling before you hit dummies?

[latent moss]

ye

i dont like pain

[minor gust]

Only time you can rage starve in good gear on aoe dummies is on pull with 0 rage

[latent moss]

i mean we lowk have the assa rogue problem with venomous wounds

where u just have 0 resource on st

then in aoe u have infinite

[rose matrix]

I thought we were talking about a friend who just picked up Arms

Doubt he is pooling rage on dummies

So it probably feels terrible

[latent moss]

even that is avoidable

by doing charge -> rend -> walk out charge back

[rose matrix]

But tbf if someone asked which spec to play on Warrior I'd easily recommend Fury over Arms

[latent moss]

i brainwashed him over the years dont worry

[minor gust]

Yeah but what if I'm lazy and I don't wanna do that

[latent moss]

Waiting for Resource

[minor gust]

Nah slarms is a good recommendation

Simple easy smooth

[rose matrix]

Yeah if you have a specific spec in your group

Otherwise it feels terrible

[latent moss]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mercy-overwatch-18

the curse:

[rose matrix]

I like Arms and all but lets be real

[minor gust]

Idk skill issue

[rose matrix]

It feels like ass in comparison to Fury

[minor gust]

I play without a shaman and slarms still plays fine

[latent moss]

i despite fury lowk

[rose matrix]

I do too

[latent moss]

spec feels so shit to play

[rose matrix]

But it plays a lot worse

[minor gust]

Just prio op more

[latent moss]

id rather play colo without shaman than fury

[minor gust]

And you get a small chance to rage starve in ST

[latent moss]

and that small chance is often salvageable by charge weaving before starving

[nova marsh]

I'd rather

blizz

Fucking fix warrior

[minor gust]

Like I'll play slarms no shaman and maybe rage starve once or twice the whole dungeon

[nova marsh]

Make our rage not trash

[dire hinge]

the secret to arms is to just never play a different spec or class, so you never have to compare us against things that are designed well

[minor gust]

It plays more than fine no shaman

[rose matrix]

Exactly

You play anything else and you realize quickly

[nova marsh]

Outlaw is well designed?

[latent moss]

ok bro cherry picking

[dire hinge]

See above: Never heard of it

[latent moss]

the rogues

ofc rogues wont be well designed

[nova marsh]

LMAO

[dire hinge]

I only play Arms i have no idea what rogue is up to

[latent moss]

but idk i multiclassed a ton this season

still like arms way more

than any other spec

ddh is cool tho icl

[rose matrix]

Prob a lot of bias

[wind hatch]

tru

fraud spec

[dire hinge]

i do have a one-button rotation ret paladin that we use as a Pacer Car in our community raids

if you cant beat the one button ret we swap you with someone else

[latent moss]

i could see myself playing ddh over arms in m+ and still enjoy m+

[minor gust]

Lmao

[minor gust]

Ddh is legit built for high keys

[latent moss]

ye just invite shitters to ur mickey mouse keys

and u get high keys experience

xdddddd

getting 6-7 (baze reference) stars in a single meta

feels so good man

that button is so good

[minor gust]

New spec designed perfectly around M+ gg

[dire hinge]

if nobody else damages mobs you can slurp the excess 😂

[latent moss]

bro got all the buffs except the important one

[minor gust]

Gg afk WW

[latent moss]

gg

gg no shaman

[dire hinge]

🫗

[latent moss]

lowk if u ask me

i fw ddh design

[minor gust]

Don't worry 12.1 rage post will save us

[latent moss]

if thats the midnight direction i dont have anything against it

[minor gust]

I'm putting that meme in the rage post too

[hexed inlet]

Can someone explain why skyfury is so important? Cause if that was the case wouldnt we stack mastery over crit or haste?

[latent moss]

mastery is nothing

[minor gust]

Skyfury isn't about mastery

[latent moss]

its the auto attacks hitting again

[dire hinge]

arms generates rage based on auto-attacks, skyfury gives us more of those

[hexed inlet]

Ah k

[latent moss]

simple rota but unique gameplay and feels good to play

well "unique"

baby s2m spriest

[hexed inlet]

I didnt actually realize skyfury had og windfury totem built in

[minor gust]

Yeah I like me ddh its always a vibe. 3 shift charges op af never in danger and always able to reposition fel charge and backflip own to makes the movement so fun. Also tanky af spec because you just leech everything

[tranquil swift]

Anything new I should know about in the talent tree for this col buff?

[minor gust]

No

[rose matrix]

Nope

[tranquil swift]

Has anyone ran a key on it yet how’s it feel

[latent moss]

personally i dont like the 0 dmg outside of cds design but as ddh it fits

[rose matrix]

Probably the same as it did before

[spark mango]

my damage is great but not capping rage and not losing charges is instinct to me, using overpower at full rage is actually mental overhead for me

[latent moss]

maybe im a minority but i dont really care about cds being impactful

[minor gust]

You can get meta back pretty easily so it's fine. That 12.05 change forcing soul immo was nice

[latent moss]

ye (idk what change ure talking about)

[minor gust]

Button you press for souls and fury

[latent moss]

ye ik what soul immo is

did they add it in .5 or

u know whats crazy btw

[minor gust]

Before .5 it was a choice with active button or a complete passive version that was random procs. .5 they deleted the passive version and made it some world quest only talent. Now you always play the active button

[latent moss]

cs ur only cd and cs on tactician would play so well and fits midnight design

as long as cs is impactful and u get mini burst windows'

cs reset 2-3 giga globals

back to fishing but add a way to guarantee procs

so u cant mega low roll

[latent moss]

W

[rare kite]

you prob are in the minority but i'm the same. rather have frequent cds than impactful ones, can't stand long cds

[rose matrix]

Anything above 1min gets annoying

[latent moss]

its just so much mental overhead in keys

s3 df outlaw was peak for me

[rare kite]

i just send. if i get punished for sending that's fine, if i get punished for not sending i cry

[latent moss]

underhanded upperhand actual peak talent

best talent they ever designed

@nova marsh thoughts

i tihnk it got shot tho

or removed

idk tww came out i looked at my outlaw hit dummies a bit felt very disappointed and dropped it

[lean geode]

please put down the crack pipe

[latent moss]

bro wdym

its peak

spec was peak gameplay wise

[lean geode]

one talent point singlehandedly nukes outlaw viability if there's ever downtime

[latent moss]

wdym stealth kept ar ar kept bf bf kept snd

rolls dropped ig which does suck

[glossy meadow]

Does Arms need a shaman to dps? in m+?

[latent moss]

kinda

its playable without

[nova marsh]

crackshot was better

[latent moss]

but with shaman its way better

[latent moss]

bro

vanish windows

hoooooooly

6 rolls vanish windows

lucky ace procs

gg

89 trillion dmg on a random 3 mob pack

then 91 trillion dmg on the next random 3 mob pack

vanish being an offensive cd is cringe tho icl

[nova marsh]

I wish they just reworked crackshot to be tied to like AR

Instead of shooting it

because it was kinda satisfying

[latent moss]

it was giga satisfying imo

idk waht they did in tww but it killed the spec for me

kir was kinda goated too

until u died

[daring grove]

fresh warrior where bonus roll

[hybrid needle]

Pit, Pit and Pit

[nova marsh]

pit

literally roll pit until you get evreything but cloak

[minor gust]

Npx after pit!

[hybrid needle]

1% NA: 3706
1% EU: 3777

[minor gust]

Damn EU slacking

[hybrid needle]

Real

[minor gust]

Eu pug scene supposed to be a lot better gg not ahead of us by like 200

[buoyant axle]

Omg i need that outlaw back it was so fun pressing bte back to back to back, the Sound was also sick when you got the CPs back

[nova marsh]

yesss

the reloads

[buoyant axle]

Its sad outlaw changed to a point where when you get the Cps back you have to press a builder to get to 6 cp XD unless you have supercharger thingy up

[nova marsh]

Not anymore

They buffed ace

and you always get 1 point from your last spender

And apex gives you max points anyways

[buoyant axle]

Wait so you dont fall into the loop where you get a reset and have only 5 cps?

[nova marsh]

irrc post ace changes in .5 no

[buoyant axle]

Hmmmm

Might look into outlaw again

[nova marsh]

Just don't play trickster

[buoyant axle]

Ah okay so basically you cant play the "better" option of the spec

[nova marsh]

Fatebound and trick are p close now

But trickster fucking sucks to play

[buoyant axle]

Is it? Thought it way ahead now with the new cloud thing

[nova marsh]

yeah well, blizzard shot the cloud

[mortal crag]

LMAO the fact u have that icon

bro remembered my arms tww s2..

we dont talk about it.. shit's in the past..

https://tenor.com/view/despair-cat-smoke-cat-ai-meme-gif-3394097129679706340

[minor gust]

ragish learned to press cleave

[stable fiber]

.@WarcraftDevs .@Warcraft
Are yall aware that you set Arcane's mana regen to a negative value in today's hotfix?
You literally can't cast any spells, mana just passively drains to 0.
Amazing work.

LMAO

they fucking hate arcane mage

this is crazy

[minor gust]

it got fixed already

[stable fiber]

yeah ik

but that shit is crazy

[minor gust]

normal blizzard quality at this point

[thick kelp]

favourite child hotfixed in .1 ms

[stable fiber]

this is lowkey a crazy vault

[thick kelp]

meanwhile arms still cant execute 2 globals in a row in lust for ep stacks

[stable fiber]

well the icd is intended which is a bit different

[wide needle]

Them void damage gauntlets any good

[thick kelp]

every other effect like thag is 0.5 icd

[wide needle]

I took em anyway sweet ass third stat

[stable fiber]

good in raid, not so good in m+

[thick kelp]

ep is just 1s

oopsy

[wide needle]

Sweet

[olive nest]

Hell yeah, +1 cool points

[reef glade]

That silencee guy in s3 tww asking how to do damage on plexus and loomithar after grayparsing them to end up doing 20s like 2 months later

[thick kelp]

m+ players vs a j*b

[deft oriole]

whats that

[nova marsh]

....that is insane value

Do u have seat gloves?

[reef glade]

1 and a half good items in vault

[rancid willow]

That’s what happens when you let AI run the show.

[rose matrix]

Ez pug on Chim

Get Rift Madness first and die

And go afk ez loot

[mortal crag]

WE'RE SENDING

IM LIVE

LARPING TIME

[nova marsh]

Larping good damage?

[latent moss]

larp nuke

[mortal crag]

larping mc22 brick into 21 resi for 2hours

[rustic igloo]

Just did a +21 Skyreach and i just cannot figure out why my slayer is doing so bad

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HyrZ4Bcght3P1TGb?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=68

[reef prairie]

Cleave cpm looks low but that could be cus youre doing no funnel perchance

Also feel like you might be holding your cds a bit too much

[warped spade]

Is berserker shout bugged or is the tooltip wrong and it's capped to 5?

[restive ledge]

Let us charge at any range, ez

[dim basalt]

Doesn't the tooltip say party?

[daring grove]

Is slayer viable in all Keys or

[deft oriole]

yes

[daring grove]

Or colussus better Some Keys ?

[deft oriole]

also yes

[late lantern]

off topic question but does anyone know how i can increase the size of my debuffs on party frames?

[paper glen]

Are the arms buffs live?

[slender raptor]

As slayer arms in m+, do we generally priorize execute over MS in Multi target?

[ionic mica]

theyre live with reset, whenever that is for you

[novel hare]

How far different is slarms vs coll in aoe?

[late lantern]

im not sure, but i think so as MS doesnt give anything extra like it does for Colo

[ionic mica]

you can with most unitframe addons but idk about default frames, probably not

[late lantern]

only MS does extend time of CS

[late lantern]

do you have a good one?

[ionic mica]

i dont use any cos i only really dps so just elv

but danders is what id use if i healed

[fleet nexus]

Guys, here's the question — how much better is Colossus than Slayer? As far as I know, Colossus is better if the tank is pooling/funneling resources into you, but what about overall DPS, that's the question))

[tulip gust]

In my amateur experience colo is still mostly fine without that in mid keys but a terrorist tank can definitely ruin your day

And slayer is just way easier IMO

[lunar idol]

They are both competitiv. Play what you like, be good at it and stop looking the overall

[fleet nexus]

I get it, I'm just having an argument with my friend who plays Rogue

[wind hatch]

colossus is almost always better for overall damage

[novel hare]

Some people like playing what they like and some people wanna play the best

nothing wrong with that

[rare kite]

anyone got that potion of reck macro? the cancelaura for hunt and berserker enchant

[wind hatch]

#showtooltip Potion of Recklessness
/cancelaura Frenzied Focus
/cancelaura Hasty Hunt
/use item:245902
/use item:241288
/use item:245903
/use item:241289

[foggy hamlet]

guys i struggle to do high dmg on arms colossus. 279 ilvl and i cant get much more than 300-400k dps MAX on big pulls with hero

[thick kelp]

skill issue

position better

i will bet your cleaves arent hitting even half of the mobs

[rare kite]

cheers

[foggy hamlet]

just did a 15 Seat and my cleave is 23% dmg and MS is 15% overall

so noch that much difference

[thick kelp]

Cleave is way low, especially for seat

[foggy hamlet]

kk i work on that

[burnt gale]

Remember you want all mobs in a cone in front of you for Demolish and Cleave

[hexed orchid]

with the buff of colossus should we play it anyway or sometime slayer still better for dungeon with a lots of ST like Algetar ?

[foggy hamlet]

I will try to do a run and log. Maybe i can see where my problem is. (Cause in my mind i would say i know that my targets need to be in a cone in front of me)

[minor gust]

unless you a log wizard log aint gonna help

record your gameplay and review it or have someone else take a quick look

its pretty easy to point out your own mistakes, also play around with cleave range on dummies

its deceptively small once you play around with it

[foggy hamlet]

yeah ur right. A record might open my eyes seeing my own mistakes

[rose matrix]

About to get rid of Arcano Weave for +1 Sparkle

the permanent front flips are bis

[tranquil swift]

Hmmmm so cleave range is small I gotta be right on top of these fuckers!

[vagrant hull]

Wait cleave is a narrow cone?

[rose matrix]

It's closer to a semicircle I think

[vagrant hull]

I thought it was a semicircle, will have to mess around with it. Can't find like a definitive answer online

[rose matrix]

It is

[vagrant hull]

ok, I misunderstood what was said above, I need to leave work my brain isn't braining

[left shard]

is one problem i have i still cant muster where i schould stand in a pull to get maximum efficency on cleave

[brittle topaz]

what is reducing the cool down of demolish ? sometimes i get 2 off during Colossus Smash and somtimes i dont

[steep escarp]

Colossal might

[wind hatch]

mortal strike and cleave build colossal might stacks, each colossal might stack you get when you already have 10 reduces demolish cd by 5 seconds

[ripe field]

OK Ive got a SLArms rotation question. During execute phase, the APL has us Execute at or above 40 rage. This is all well and good, but doesn't that mean once you drop below 40 rage, you'll likely never go back above or not without some time passing and a couple of lucky double autoattacks or Sudden Death procs.

Because once you drop below that 40 rage, you're sitting there spamming MS, Slam and Heroic Strike

In practice I sometimes sit for an auto rather than continuing to spam Slam, but IDK if this is the right move

[wind hatch]

execute is still above slam and ms without 2 ep stacks even below 40 rage

[brittle topaz]

Thanks lads

[wind hatch]

so its not something you need to think about at all

[ripe field]

appreciate ya

[minor gust]

@latent moss omfg ive done the last like 7 +19s with my mythic dragons build. guess what ive been missing

[latent moss]

W collat

-9% trillion

[minor gust]

ive been wondering why my cleave dmg has been so low

lmao still have been topping overall tho

so gg slayer

[simple moat]

Do we know how big of a buff colossus is getting in st and aoe?

[latent moss]

#updates-midnight

[latent moss]

playing with noobs..

[minor gust]

NA classic

[stable socket]

Can warrior survive what would normally be an immune on the belo'ren double soak?

[slow flame]

Is colossus the move in all keys now

Or whats poppin

[minor gust]

nothing has changed

[slow flame]

Ty

[glacial cloud]

It's never colossus time, slayer #1

[ripe field]

??you only do +6s why would i listen 2 u

[minor gust]

🪤

[ripe field]

its a meme at this point

homegrown

locally sourced

[wide needle]

what dungeons yall playing slayer on vs col

i freaking stink at this spec lol

[dire hinge]

tbh just follow your heart with it

some dungeons have cheese mechanics you can do with slayer/colossus, but both can do pretty much any key just fine if you learn em

[minor gust]

playing a certain spec on a certain dung aint gonna change that

[wide needle]

lol

[nova marsh]

You should just

GIT GUD

Let us help

So you can tell yourself why you suck

[wide needle]

i enjoy colossus more

so ill just keep playing that

i think my damage overall is not where it should be imo

ST bosses im hitting like 60k which compares to the sims appropriately

[rancid willow]

Can we change the name of the channel to the answer to this question?

[viral fiber]

So what dungeons haha

[rare kite]

col in all dungeons except aa and skyreach. tho lowkey after buff wouldn't surprise me if col is the play for those as well

[viral fiber]

Sometimes I feel like 1-2 gcd I have nothing to press on MT do I send 1 slam in that window?

[novel raven]

col in SR was alrdy meta again with proper funnel

[viral fiber]

Or I just refresh rend?

[rare kite]

that's what i do, i just refresh rend

[rancid willow]

I take sip of diet Mountain Dew

[rare kite]

yea in coordinated groups. the invis skip with last boss is massive. is there tech for funnel on bird?

[dire hinge]

if you're out of everything (No Major CDs, no MS/Cleave/OP, no Sudden Death) then yeah just toss a Rend out.

[fringe leaf]

can someone give me a TLDR on which hero tree and when to send CDs for mythic dragons? i may try it out today, been playing fury for it and we're not too close to a kill so i might want to keep myself entertained but playing arms lol

i think i saw top logs did colo? i didnt dig in to them though it was 2nd monitor content between wipes lol

[dire hinge]

• Hero tree breakdown of the top 100: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/46?boss=3178&class=Warrior&spec=Arms
• Timings of the top 50 logs: https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/warrior-arms/vaelgor-&-ezzorak

[foggy hamlet]

just did a +10 and recorded it. Not a good run but it displays how i would play atm. Would mind looking at it?

[rose matrix]

I love that Arms is basically still not taken into groups even with how strong it is

Ret takes prio over us still

[open ingot]

Arms is beating ret tho no?

[rose matrix]

Yeah but I am talking about invites

It's because of their utility I think but damn

[open ingot]

Eh wcyd did they get buffs

Kinda nuts that colossus gots buff its in a good spot

[deep rose]

Only for the talent nobody plays 🙂

[rose matrix]

I disagree that Colossus is in a good spot

The overalls and funnel is great

[open ingot]

I mean colossus funnel is nuts

[rose matrix]

But the ST is so bad it's insane

[open ingot]

Eh yeah sure but the funnel brings that up

Majority of the dungeons you can force it

[fringe leaf]

thanks!

just because colo can get funnel doesnt mean in lfg it will be done, ive literally done keys where i asked if we were getting funnel on 3/4 bosses on MT and i was told its not possible...in a 20

i cba so id rather go slayer or fury lol

[nova marsh]

God

Kill funnel as a requirement

[still timber]

I tried Slayer Arms, pure ST... and it simmed 10k less than pure ST Slayer Fury.

Is AoE Slayer Arms any better?

[rose matrix]

What you guys thinking

Colossus or Slayer for NPX

[hybrid needle]

Col

[fringe leaf]

id say theyre both pretty decent, arms prob better end of dungeon overalls especially if youre getting funnel as slarms

[stable fiber]

this hurts

[fringe leaf]

but slfury for sure big boss damage

[hybrid needle]

Can have funnel on all bosses in npx

[still timber]

I"m doing 17s and up to now I think I saw at most 5 keys where people pull trash into the boss. And it dies quickly anyway, so idk, funnel may not be that common

[fringe leaf]

it isnt common even in 20s in na

so i just play fury and not care about funnel or not lol although slarms cares a lot less than colo so if you prefer arms slarms is good enough for all keys too

[main adder]

What do I do with Demolish when it inevitably gets out of sync from Colossus Smash?

CS gets the cd reduction

[rare kite]

you just send demo

[main adder]

pretty much as soon as it's safe to do so then?

[fringe leaf]

yeah demo CDR is insane since the changes a few weeks ago, but if CS is close in timing with demo then you can sync them

[main adder]

It was jsut flat reduced down? Or is there a talent giving it active cdr like anger management for CS?

[rare kite]

there are moments when you hold but you learn that over time. for the most part if cs is 10 sec or longer away i just send demo

[main adder]

sick, i like that as a general rule it's perfect for learning

ty

[rare kite]

for st it should allign pretty well tho

[main adder]

for every other CS?

[livid plume]

So like... send the demo if CS is at... say 30sec? 20sec?

Asking because would it be similar to Outlaw holding BTE if ADR is at <30sec

[rose matrix]

Dude Outlaw fucking pumps if the player is good

[main adder]

ngl as someone trying to learn the spec rn in delves, i really hate having to press rend

it feels so unfulfilling as your first gcd following a charge in

[stable fiber]

ok now i pot p4 lura

bang

[brazen sigil]

did the heroic strike macro get broken this reset?

nvm

[silent sun]

slayer an col still comparable or is one the clear winner?

[royal pecan]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/x7KPesK42GVugY5ZNBeiCb

Is it bad that it wants me to use haste, im using Shads dungeon sim

[dire hinge]

kinda splitting hairs at that point, it's a 340 dps difference between them, which is 0.16%

so you do you

[dire hinge]

it's always been randomly broken, i wouldn't recommend using it personally.

it's not clear why it disables, despite showing up as learned in your spellbook and proc is present

[dire hinge]

yeah it's pretty weird. It does give rage passively, and it does some of the most damage-per-rage in AoE over its duration, but it's not exactly satisfying

[main adder]

I just don't get why they decided that thunder clap shouldn't apply rends now across the board

thunderclap is a very fun button press even if it's basically just applying rend

[dire hinge]

felt out of place with Colossus/Slayer since neither benefit from using TClap outside of just "applies rend" so they made Rend AoE baseline

compared to Thane (Fury/Prot), where TClap actually does stuff

[rare kite]

i mean it does apply rend but no reason to use it over regular rend

[main adder]

omg i didnt realize it already did that

So is it interchangeable with rend?

[rare kite]

nah it costs an extra talent point since you need to know rend for it to apply it

[main adder]

but if i prefer it for flavor it just costs 1 class talent point?

no other downsides?

[rare kite]

think the initial damage is a tiny bit smaller but it's not like rend initial damage does anything. so go ahead

[main adder]

I am so happy to have learned this. Thank you 🙂

[wind hatch]

one thing you do have to be careful of with sims when running berserker rage + reck pot is to make sure your haste is NEVER higher than your crit

or else reck pot will sometimes proc haste which is a big damage loss and sim doesnt account for that

im not sure if thats the case for you but its good to check

[nova marsh]

Realistically the solution here is to just use lights

For sims

[neon shale]

did servers just take a fat poop

[wind hatch]

3 people in my raid just got dced at the exact same time during a lura pull

so something's going on

[nova marsh]

Oof

[upper sparrow]

stuck on "logging in to game server" page

[nova marsh]

Ah yes

This same shit happened in tww s2

For my raid group on gally

Lost a fucking hour to it

[wind hatch]

luckily it was last pull of the night anyway

[upper sparrow]

felt more like a Helldivers 2 night anyways

[soft venture]

i feel like i get way more consistent numbers out of colossus, I love slayer, but cant seem to do the same damage every key, is this normal? I feel like colossus I do the same no matter the tank/route, but slayer it just is all over the place sometimes ending at like 160 sometimes ending at like 190-200k.

Just curious if there is anyone else who has this issue or if I am dumb

[viral fiber]

Slayer is based on SD proc maybe that why? Also shaman buff is 10% dps gain

[soft venture]

Shaman buff would make sense. I guess since ST is so low and rage is endless in AOE, I do not notice it on colossus as much

[nova marsh]

Shaman buff is part of it, and Slayer is really reliant on SD procs

[paper gulch]

is that a dungeon sim with anticipated pull sizes to show overall dmg?

[royal pecan]

Yeah

[paper gulch]

Oh thats cool

[royal pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI46-AlgKqQ

[pale agate]

are there new colossus talents going around after the ST buff today ?

[paper gulch]

Gentleman and a scholar

[soft ridge]

can anyone help me figure out why the droptomiser is not showing things as upgrades. For example i know the mythic ring - eye of midnight should be an upgrade over heroic. but its not showing it.https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hJKcLrcNyEP4Ce1zAEy4pY

[thick kelp]

same old

[soft ridge]

oh wait maybe its because my stats are so close and the pot of reck changes from crit to haste

[thick kelp]

Wise

[paper gulch]

It’s saying the ring you’re talking about is a 379 dps loss

In finger 2

[soft ridge]

thats my point, a direct upgrade on the same item should be an upgrade.

[paper gulch]

Make sure all gems and enchants match as well. There’s no reason the same item at a higher item level should be a decrease.

There is a window in TOPGEAR that you can type the items name and item level and make sure everything matches. That would be the “truer” comparison.

[soft ridge]

yea good idea

[wind hatch]

they are, its because of the reck pot

[stark cape]

Whats the addon yall use for when you start a key it assigns your kick to a marker?

i always see it in chat.

[gilded kraken]

itruliaqol

[lime ruin]

I haven't gotten past phase 1 yet but colossus on Lura is lowkey kinda good

works kind of like first voidspire boss where you funnel off the unkillabnle adds for faster demolish

[stable fiber]

its not trust me

lmao

[wind hatch]

colo falls off hard after p1

[stable fiber]

please just play slayer

or else you will not do damage or have fun on the rest of the fight which is ST

do whatever though its your life

[lime ruin]

Sounds like anti colossus cartel nonsense to me

[stable fiber]

you can play it

you just might do like

-60k dps of rank 1

which is ok

[clever crag]

Colo every dung now ?

[pale agate]

guys can u do 21 AA as colossus now after changes ?

[robust cypress]

Ayyy got the gloves from seat finally

[wind hatch]

yes

[pale agate]

wow thats awesome!!

[nova marsh]

maxium gaming

[robust cypress]

Time get get a gaze

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ee43hEVvUigWun11ssFC7G

💪

[clever crag]

Im 290 and these gloves sim as a dps loss

[robust cypress]

What gloves do you have atm?

[clever crag]

Tier

[dim basalt]

The gloves are pretty whatever

Not worth hunting

[soft sigil]

For arms voidclaws are a wash, they sim a negligible amount better on ST and a negligible amount worse on AOE than windrunner gloves (maybe the crit/mastery ones too but I've never simmed those), like .1% either way

[nova marsh]

Unless u have neck from Alleria

kinda ye

The neck is what makes them bis

[pearl shore]

what do you need to know for the jump skip in seat to work?

sometimes I need to wiggle around a bit for the jump to work

[vocal flicker]

On the left side there is a hill, you can easily jump from there

[carmine cedar]

is it colossusing/demolishing time?

[pearl shore]

always has been

[torn saddle]

hey do we want crit or haste to be above the other for recklessenss pot?

[grim mortar]

hello, are arms guides updated?

[hazy lance]

For m+ is colossus the way?

[slow saddle]

seems so

dno if we play the ST build that leans into new buffs though

we prob do in like Skyreach

and aa

[dim basalt]

With the ST build you should be able to do like 85k in ST

Which is pretty decent

[lost blade]

What are the biggest differences between slarms and slurry? Don’t want to know what makes most dmg or anything like that, it’s more like gameplay wise, cds and dmg profiles, mby argument to play one or the other?

[slow saddle]

Slurry prob does what slarms does but better

in st and overall wise

but slarms still have the big benefit of funnel and rly great prio dmg over fury

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8MwKEZ9apNPNqRD1kMbtqQ ST build ofc with full raid buffs u might remove some if u like

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bMSDhrKKw1wFMwtYvCiCRU normal M+ build

so i mean 91k is pretty decent ngl

i do not like loosing the whole 2t shit but still

waitin for my sim for slarms

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kKwRgVtSFsq1TM6AEaN8ze

so i mean the gap is still significant, but less at least

[hazy lance]

Why exactly?

[slow saddle]

i mean harder bosses

but its hmm kindda like so 1 and 2nd boss pure st

and collosus does rly well on the last 2 as well

coz its 2t

playing the st build col build

id say is prob the best of both worlds

[hazy lance]

Thanks

[slow saddle]

but like

biz i think did a 21 or 22 as slarms

so i mean we are in a spot where Slarms is fucking great

and collosus might just be a tiny bit better

and most pugs u can just do slarms, the benefit IMHO of col is mainly it is near immortal as well

[distant echo]

holy fak

got allerias necklace in mythic with avoidance

for my arms

[slow saddle]

its that the 2 s 1?

[distant echo]

the very rare one

or wym

[stable fiber]

i did it

woohoo

[distant echo]

isnt everyone rank 1 by killing lura

or is it based on logs too

[stable fiber]

you need every boss killed to have high all star points

[distant echo]

yeha

congratz mate

[wind hatch]

all star points are based on performance for each fight

[stable fiber]

also it gets scaled based off the rank 1 log

for example the rank 1 log of chimaerus is impossible for me to even come close too

so my all star points on that boss kinda suck

[distant echo]

u gotta go demolish on that boss for logs

[stable fiber]

you see

i would

[distant echo]

[stable fiber]

but im in a guild of people who are just as good as me

so its like...

i dont get to do damage to them anyways

[distant echo]

they get deleted

yeah ik

lol

[stable fiber]

yup

[distant echo]

idk pug that boss

[stable fiber]

i might have too

[distant echo]

and hope for the best

[wind hatch]

chimaerus logs are filled with chinese players who buy parse runs that give them exclusive add damage

[stable fiber]

also that^

its like that for a couple of bosses

[distant echo]

thats china to you

[stable fiber]

averzian, vaelgor and chim

all are like that

[distant echo]

everyone stop dpsing on adds so the arms warrior can pad

lol

[stable fiber]

vaelgor doesnt count for ASP though so its fine

i think they should remove chimaerus as well but

[distant echo]

but anyway

huge achievement

W

[stable fiber]

ty

now for m+

[distant echo]

GL

😤

[dim basalt]

I dont think I got one R1 since I started playing warrior in TWW S1

On mythic obviously, getting a R1 on heroic isnt hard

Closest was R4 :(

[stable fiber]

the top chim log is genuinely doing 33% more dps then me

wtf

[simple lintel]

what about boss damage

[stable fiber]

50k higher then me

but they also kill the boss in 2:30

lmfao

[dim basalt]

Jesus christ what

[stable fiber]

1 phasing chim

holy shit

[dim basalt]

Only possible with vantus no?

[stable fiber]

i dont think you need vantus

there might be some tech

[dim basalt]

hmm

[stable fiber]

let me check this out rq

[dim basalt]

1 phasing for sure helps there

lmao

[stable fiber]

they 2 heal

with 2 disc priests

[dim basalt]

I guess its a really tight dps check then

[stable fiber]

i feel like you can 1 tank as well

hmm

1 tank 2 heal

17 dps

[dim basalt]

How do you deal with adds below then

feral or whatever going bear?

Or perma kite ig

[stable fiber]

arms parry

you face tank it until it does its tank buster

then parry