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Arms is the best prio damage spec in the game by a mile
Meanwhile fury actually loses single target while doing its aoe rotation
humble 500k hs crit
soon tm
Thought that was mythic for a sec and was pogging out. I start my Trial with parallax next week. My guild let me go after belo since we have another warrior who was chillin on bench for crown and belo.
Yeah time to nerf the Colo bleed talent again
cut to the bone my beloved...
huh? they let you go after killing bird but the warrior who wasn't in stays? wat
Other warrior very much capable so they were cool with letting go do my trial
oh so you didn't get kicked
Lol yeah no
Fair. Yeah I was just like hey gonna be last tier with the guild got an offer somewhere else. I'm totally down to stay for Lura unless they thought it would be unfair to our other warrior who was on bench if I was just gonna leave immediately after killing Lura.
Looking over my logs, is slayer parsing=how many SD procs did I get?
yes
for a fresh 90 arms war, whats the best dungeon to use our bonus rolls on?
Pit
just spam pit and use all rerolls there?
ye
if you fresh yeah
yeah fresh boy
pit -> npx
ty
what pre pots u guys running with colo?
lights or reck
?
reck doesnt feel bad at all i was lights until now
now im trying reck
reck
anybody know a quick and easy way to farm any type of crest
Anyone mapped out the % dps changes on the reset changes?
yo guys, is there any way to track swing timer without weakauras atm?
no
cant find any addon actually
ah thx I missed the first bit
You guys sending demo nearly on cd on mythic dragons?
I keep for adds because i like to be top 1
I’ve been doing the same was wondering if you can sneak an extra one in there before adds lol
At pull yes
And during interphase. But never tried on a confortable kill because we were on progress. Next week i will try to tweak
Gotcha gotcha same best pull 35% so far
We killed it last pull
Nice!
Good luck !
Thank you!
Funny lil bug
Ive noticed if you use any fury legion artifact, it REALLY wants to display both of them.
I use the dragonslayer axes in my mog and it doubles them up fucking everywhere lmao

where can i find pvp info
I wish it was mythic xd
gl on ur trial
smh
just let the rest of your raid hold dmg
the most annoying shit ever, along with "no, I cba moving Chimmy to big add, because we kill this boss on refarm anyway" (c) Tank
Struggling with dmg on opening pulls as slayer. I’m generally doing the following:
Avatar+CS>Pot>Rend>BS>SD (if it procs)>cleave spam>OP>MS.
My Ret teammate is destroying me on opening pulls. I’ll beat him on most boss fights but opening pulls he’s doing 1/3 more dmg than me, sometimes more.
why rend after cs ava lol
cleave spam>sd proc
let you go as in you got booted or let you go as in approved of it
execute range in slayer spec, am i executing to 2 stacks of EP and then MS, overpower as needed, or am I only using MS if colossus smash up?
approved it
if you play stance mastery you don't ms unless it's CS
and is it parallax gaming on stormrage or a different guild
yeah its that one
applying to take your spot as we speak
ew someone logged m+ onto the guild wclogs
???
get cooked buddy
When do we apply rend “lol”

before burst
yeah why are you spending a gcd in cs rending
gg you lost 10 billion dmg
just hearth out at that point
my hearth is on cd from my other failed group
alt f4 angle
i play on controller 
throw your controller at monitor angle
Any suggestions on bonus rolls following depleting Pit? Do I send for puzzle box?
U mean throw your keyboard?
is anyone good to check my arms logs in help and log review, my damage is BAADDDDDD and idk why
I kinda inted that 20 by being unable to follow tank movements properly
but my damage was also terrible
like mega bad
unholy and ret 210k overall while i'm at 166k
watching critcake and stuff I feel like rotationally i'm not doing anything super different at least, i'm getting a bit more liberal with my cds in that I was testing if that was the source of the problem
but now I feel im getting less dmg so idk
you need to give more info than that
well I posted my logs in the channel
it drives me a bit mental bc idk how i'm doing so terrible at it
im kinda low on crit but surely it's not THAT hindering
when I look at this it's not like, phenomenally different other than he has more casts for cleave and stuff but overall idk
i mean you lose a lot of damage by dying
if you genuinely feel like you are doing the priority correctly then you need to look at your other wow skills. Focus on uptime, positioning, and CD usage. make sure you are always hitting stuff and pressing a button every global. All your aoe dmg is from frontals so make sure you are positioned close enough to as many mobs as possible so you are able to hit as much as possible with cleave and demolish and DN. Make sure you are sending your short cds like CS and Demo on CD even if things are low health as the CDR makes them come back very quickly.
your cleave damage does seem pretty low, positioning might be an issue
I notice a lot of ppl dealing with low arms dmg are not playing around the cleave cone
this could be it
I need to practice on a dummy or smth to see the cone
is there a visual for it?
Also sending cds early before mobs are set
cleave aoe is not that large
its very easy to miss mobs that are a lil spread out
I think it must be my positioning then
positioning is very very important especially for colo
is there a way to make it clearer when I am for sure hitting targets
bc currently it's just like
I see a tiny bunch of numbers flicker around
but idk of that's like
me hitting 2 or 8
just get used to knowing how large the cleave radius actually is
go by the training dummies and keep moving around and find the max limits of cleave
More crit will help but its not the reason your dmg is that low
agree
yeah that's fair I was just wondering how much of an impact
how does demolish damage range work?
any good video guides that are up to date for arms gameplay/rotation etc?
cause one thing that happens often is I demolish, and then tank drags mobs away and I can't always tell if I still got the dmg from it
the dmg will still go off unless the mobs move significantly fast and far mostly leapers.
I see
well thank you for the advice guys I am going to pay alot more mind to my positioning
feels better knowing there's a digestible thing I can work on
also one more thing, does def stance reduce aggro pull?
yes
I see critcake often go def stance and hit the mobs as tank is gathering
how significanlty
bc I often rip aggro tryna build stacks or dmg before pull filly sends
just you do less dmg so you gen less threat
still more important to really make sure you are hitting mobs that the tank has used actual abillities on
and not just a light tag with an aoe spell
He mainly does it to keep his col stacks up as the gather is happening
chat, did blizzard fix the issue with champion spear macro breaking at the beginning of the season?
no idea tbh, i haven't talented spear in years 😬
if it's a PVP thing you can check #pvp
who knows, no one uses champion spear xD
i mean its also survivng certain pulls that would instant kill you if you didn't have d stance
Can we bladestorm or demolish thru the stun wave on last boss ws? Never tried and arrows are buggy so im curious
yes
Yes to both ?
yes to both
Nice, ty
What, so we just bladestorm and pass ring?
correct
Any other tech like this on other dungeons?
Can we remove pit gargolyte, skyreach last boss add, maisara mini boss?
How do we remove grip only bladestorm or demolish?
Hmm I have tried a few times seems too far
Like even with dragon glide it seems impossible
So idk how others do it
can void elf racial but that's about it i think
Ok but since its 2 target we dont bother much anyways yeah?
If your tank participates in the shenanigans, you can charge the boss back onto the platform
Pretty sure that mechanic is Trivalized by sweeping strikes no , it's free executes
I’ve never been able too, the timing seems impossible but I’ve seen ppl say you can. I think they lying.
it's VERY finicky i wouldn't rely on it, but yes i've done it
if you can get the boss in range, you can Charge back on, and it's much more reliable
Arms defensive feels good get agro and use 100% parry
Can survive till tank taunts back
it's very handy
You can taunt -> Spell Reflect some beefy tank busters. There isn't many this season though
Wow I can reflect SR buster
some of them*
they're listed here:
https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide
If dungeon tp on cd do we walk back to entrance and switch to slayer on seat last boss?
Is it worth the wait time
is collosus still very good or is slayer way ahead
usually not, just save cds for intermission and do huge damage
both do perfectly fine. Slayer is just less impacted by Pug tanks being silly (its more flexible).
Colossus is still great though
specific secondary amounts aren't something you should chase, just Sim your gear as you go and it'll tell you which pieces of gear are good for you.
Arms likes all stats in various amounts
It isnt about how far, its about how leap work, for leap you need a pathway and SR add take you out of platform, but charge works bit different, or intercept on ally
Leap i kinda wietd tech, because leap makes you travel "on your curent height" if.yiu have pathway, but if you jump up and leap at peak mid air, you could leap above nexus lasers (for example)
any tips to improve? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8nH3rB1bXx2vMcPy?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=4
Is it me or arms feel unplayable without shaman buff?
Sometimes I have to 2-3 sec without anything to press because no rage
I don't think Arms GCD locked, even with a shaman. I also don't think Arms is the only spec with the occasional "dont/cant press anything" GCD
it's not unplayable but boi is it miserable
fury does not do more damange than arms lol
You beat the paladin. This is all that matters. 🙂
Can someone explain to me why some guides say in AOE to demolish regardless of colossus smash or not, aslong as u can get one inside ur smash window, and some say save it for ONLY during colossus smash and never try to squeeze one between.. im getting mixed signals.
hey guys whats the best bonus roll dungeon for arms
im finally getting around to playing mine
Pit of Saron, almost everything in there is perfect, or you can catalyze it
W thats what i have
wait wtf why is literally everything in pit crit haste that's hilarious
Some are outdated
With the CDR increase buff from a few weeks ago, you can decide to send one in between for 3+ targets
As long as CS isn't like 15 seconds out, there's no real reason not to send it
Within 15 seconds + Cs's duration you will get demo back
ty :3
Really it's more like 10 seconds but you get the idea
they've changed arms so many times, it's like every other week 
now change it so ravager is removed
real, just make it an avatar passive
i'd take that as well but would prefer archi's cs talent suggestion. just a talent that increases cs damage by x(he suggested 300%) but whatever the number is could easily be tuned
Feels like we somehow got the inverse of TWW S1
instead of getting nerfed like evrey week, blizzard randomly decided to buff the living crap out of us
Not complaining
amazing for pushing higher keys
First time I've seen ppl stating for war in lobbies 
Slayer or colossus
What do you think about my stats? (This is with haste flask) should I add more mastery to it to balance? (Convert head piece to haste/mast?)
Is there a point where certain stats hit a ceiling and isn't worth investing in it anymore?
are people simming around 112k max for arms
For ST or M+
ST
im simming 115 Fury and 109 Arms and just trying to figure out where i can can improve and whats best for Lura
without vantus yes
arms is a bit better for lura but the difference isnt massive you can play whatever
Any clue why id sim at 80 and 90k on both arms specs at 290 with 30% crit?
🤔
I sim 115k on fury slayer
send sim report
on laptop now ill send 2moro if u see it
gotta be doing something wack like no buffs or something. or simming in full aoe
like i can get a crit wep or neck but 30% seems decent
true
Help with my stats please. 😄
yea something is definetely off coz i'm simming 107k at 289 @novel hare
I run the exaxt same sim on fury and its 115k vs 80k col and 92k slayer
odd
ill look furhter 2moro
and i sim 116k as fury(well 115.9 to be exact)
Swap to tier helmet and get either Seat or Windrunners haste crit gloves
What options do we sim? I am using 1 target 3 min and 8 target 1.30
Sim says haste better over crit but crit is our bis stat?
i just sim 1t 5m patchwerk. there's no such thing as an always best stat, if sim says you want haste then you want haste
I have giga full bis gears
Now I need to change it again?
Maybe use haste pot and call it?
if sim says so yes
doesnt sound like you have giga full bis gears
But this cycle will never end?
Once I follow sim it still want me to change to something
First problem is simming stat weights
sim is not a never ending cycle, you have certain items on you and certain items in your bag and catalyst, you sim everything once with top gear and unless you get something new the sim remains the same
Any advice to get 95 parse on paladins ?
Seems way easier as fury looking at the numbers
For mythic?
Velen takes 60% increased dmg for 20-30 sec when u bl so u gotta max ur dps on him
But cleave is still a priority
Any thoughts on first boss guidon trink for keys? Sims within 0.0-0.3% based on targets and fight length for me but is an on use which is usually better
Woops didn’t mean to reply
See I did not know that
is this mythic only
I ravagered before my cs+demo and swapped that around and thats also a nice dps increase
But as the fight goes long by the 3rd rav its kinda scuffed
ye i forgot to sim that but idk
i doubt 1mbg global is worse than 1cs global
but iirc fishy simmed it a while ago
and cs global was better
man i wanna make an addon that plays the
sound whenever u cleave with ravager up
thats genuinely how it feels to press cleave in cds as colo
cant wait for reset and the humble 500k hs crit
paladin looking ass
With rav after you get more cleaves in
Idk my burst is way higher that way
come back to arm zhaius
experience the humble fob hs crits
"my spec funnels more than arms!!"
the humble 6 trillion hs crit
the humble 5 trillion cleave crit
i had a 1.5 mil global on hc paladins
no utility chatting
On arms I have to do what 220k? Crazy
ye but arms
Doesn't make much sense to think of it that way
does a lot more dmg
Yeah lmao
me when i dont understand relativity
Its not 3t all the way tho
i think arms wouldve exploded
Those bitches split all the time
the rashanan ovinax fury incident
There's really no secret there
Do your 3 target burn when you have 3, otherwise play your 2 target rotation
Sweeping uptime is all there is to it
No
just spend 3 collat cleaves as a filler above slam in 2t
You still use empowered cleave tho right ?
Guide acts like it doesn’t exist
Not other buttons
Because even if you don't and just slam instead the diff is negligible
The 3x collat vs slam is negligible?
Yep
Refresh rend before a target leaves
Sweeping uptime
Get your demolish resets and use it correctly based on your CS cooldown or on whether you'll have 3 targets availabe soon
Cleave with 3x collat on 2 target above slam
Otherwise it's just the regular prio for 2t
Been doing all that except fucking up my 2t with collateral
Yea sir
Paladins is arms boss, if you go fury.. youre trolling mate
what does collat mean in this contexrt?
collateral damage talent
quick question for seat i wanna run coloss but for last boss how can i tp out quick infront oif the dungeon to go slayer?
I guess when you start the key walk there manually, then use dungeon port after 2nd last boss
^
You teleport out using the dungeon portal after killing 3rd boss
i have a question
i have these but i just got myth track bracers
should i make the bracers a set peace and just have higher ilvl?
3 extra ilvl on a low budget piece like bracers isnt worth losing an embellishment
unless you have the crests and you can craft in another slot thats not myth track
this is what a embellishment salesman would say. how much is the auction house paying you
yea 3 ilvl is nothing
kk, ty for the help fellas
oh I made absolute bank on expansion launch
Im fully bised out except one ring
Kind of a bad feeling actually
Not looking forward to vault
Well might start collecting fury bis
prolly want more haste
but as always
sim it
if its simming the highest then its good
try simming stuff like haste flask
haste heavy gems etc
How do you sim for m+ environment? Do like 1 patchwork and other sims to like 5?
i do st 3min and 8t 1min
bro i cant wait for reset
fob is so unreal xdd
2 mil global should be doable on 3t on reset
can someone send me simc addon input as colo im not home
Yeah its gonna be giga banger
Im excited too haha
Prio target is gonna be even better, and funnel on bosses
Playing colo in raid? 
as colossus in M+ do we just send demolish when we can, or do we have to manage stacks of colossal might?
10+ and with CS
Sometimes u gotta send without CS
Its possible to get two demolishs in one CS
Sometimes
Yeah if it's like 15-20 s to next cs

so demolish only during CS, or when at 10 stacks outside of CS?
As slayer, do we spam execute in execute phase or 2 x execute > MS?
Like there's some naunce, you want to use Demo within CS but if you can't get 10 stacks in time (usually 1st pull) you still send demo
Otherwise you wanna try using it on 10 stacks
oke thanks
What ive heard from others, u spam execute unless its CS on the target, u do MS with two execute stacks
I think raid spec you still MS though, that exception is for m+ because the m+ variation makes MS a low prior button
guys when there is a sitation when i have bladestorm up but 8s to avatar is worth to wait 8s and then use BS?
I'd wait and use anger management to reduce the cd
i came here to say i am angry at my self . and i want an addon that alert me on Stance .
i usally dont do this mistake but today i did . are you guys using somthing for stance
defensive stance reminder
i have it on the tracked buffs
I just forget and do an entire run in def stance… or tank in battle
Is collosus getting st buff this week?
yes

Any ideas how to get CE so i can actually try to farm gaze? It's been around 6h without any invites now lol
start your own group
do u have friends with ce i dont endorse this behavior but u can ask them to send u their achi then u just send it to pug leaders
interesting idea. i do have some, i usually raid mythic and they continued
i guess ill try that for now
try it sometimes they dont bother actually checking
dont forget to gaslight people into joining
I got my first chimmy kill from a semi guild run posted in lfg
At the end it was like 12+ CE achievements in chat lol
Sad
i was so salty
but id be single if i didnt leave, so i guess im lacking commitment lol
The fight isnt too bad but its like 90% carried by the tanks + fast DKs
Oh fair didnt think of that
Easy to take them for granted and then you notice the fear add cast time without curse is soo much faster lmao
solid?
solid like in "they actually invited me and had a chance to kill it"
ah
y
but just get 4 dks and intermission is solved
only place u can wipe on that fight anyway
Real
Most groups nowadays only do like 1 soak after intermission
And the last soak is a sac
every group ive been in has done that
Just fkin rush the boss before consume
u can also just lie in note
Unethical cone
“Big dam” “most damage” and its 50% extra chance to invite
"ce on main"
"know what to do, trust" isnt working
“Multi r1 gladiator, HoF on main”
worked for me
"Multi r1 gladiator, actually owner of liquid AND echo" didnt work yet
I can't stand people that say this
Or "big pumper"
Like, dipshit, I can see your logs. Your best is green, your median is grey. Sit down
except youre still playing warr
:)
I'm 90th median too, but only 3/9M so it doesn't count
"I'm the tallest dwarf" type comment
Yeah after next reset arms honestly might have an argument for best m+ DPS I have checked logs and this is definitely not true

Im basing this off Bizentein overalls
Yeah but thats based on the player behind the screen
U can still play the shittiest spec and still perform better than the top specs mediocre players if youre good
i wouldn't say is the "best" dps, but damn arms is in the best state its been in m+ history this patch
Good st, good aoe, has utility, tanky as fuck compared to before
this is the ideal place to be xd
its not crushing, but its good, nerf hammer avoiding spot
Our tankiness is very nice
Ppl dying left and right on paladins and I just pop DBTS and eat hammers lol
Any misplays instantly healed by IV
After reset colossus will be better for every dungeon or slayer will have something left?
is the numerical dps difference between fury and arms that big? cus applying to 19's im just seeing every lead talk negatively about fury, or is this literally the effect of "meta perception"
3% isnt alot when the number between slayer and colossus average is still substancial, sims at least colossus in my current gear is like 20k behind, 3% doesn't make that much room but it helps
fury is fine, meta perception is that "arms" is better
Fury warriors are usually worse at the game too cuz its easier. And ppl are meta slaves
So 1% to them is difference between invite and decline
yeah im sadly starting to feel that
u think so? the more complex and meta a spec is the more i see fuckups cus they are hard focusing on rotation and shit
Just personal experience but the worst warrs I meet are usually fury, unless arms is current fotm
Its also way more popular spec than arms
Its like frost mages vs arcane
As a very fresh arms player I can confirm I found new ways to die because of trying to do rotation 
no thats a valid take i think
The fact that arms is like the most unpruned spec left and fury thane is 3 buttons also helps lol
fury gameplay also attracts the same kind of players that bm hunter gameplay attracts
actually it doesn't
I know cuz I have a friend who plays BM and can't play fury cuz you have to know how to count to 4 for meat cleaver

any reasons why the big m+ pumpers hit sweeping 3 sec before a talented colossus smash?
Is it normal for recklessness to sim higher than lights potential?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hMXrKb4hxPyi1sFaFstFyf
with zerker rage to, hmmm
Especially when you have 0 vers
yer i have fkin like 1%
Arms just loves crit
I think with this sim though its trying to get pot to proc haste
nono it is crit we good lol
i thought simming consumables with other gear messes up the sim iirc
Oh does it idk
i thought it did but im sure some more intelligent people here can correct me
even tho the reflect doesn't work on every ability the dr of spell reflect does, right?
for every magic ability ofc
guys you know the brainrot kick macro
#showtooltip YOUR INTERRUPT
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead,harm] YOUR INTERRUPT
/stopmacro [@focus,exists,nodead,harm]
/focus target
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast YOUR INTERRUPT
/target focus
/clearfocus
/startattack
how does it interact with the last boss in NPX
all of the images are casting
Will it still interrupt the current target im on if I pick the correct one first, or will it clear that target and then interrupt any of the other ones that are casting
Does tab smartly target the next mob that is casting?
it does, but when more than 1 is casting it can target any of them
ok but you didn't answer the question
Dks don't know how to grip tho
That's their most defining feature
macro goes from top to bottom:
first 2 lines get ignored (no focus at this point)
it will create a focus at your current target, which might be the one you try to kick
then targets the next valid target in front of you, it clears it first, so it can target the same one
it will kick this target.
I would advice having a normal kick for that
when they are closely stacked, you might kick the wrong one
one of the few things you should not always tab kick anyway
it is save if there is no other target in your melee range
Oki ty i always land the kicks in npx pretty consistently but I dont wanna fucking wipe us cause oops macro didnt start with what I had originally targetted
I guess a way to make sure it targets what im clicking on first would be setting focus target on the correct lothraxion image?
like find correct guy, focus target it, then macro
as far as i understand the macro, yes
Oki ty ty
if focus exist, only the first 2 lines are executed
Might be a good habit to get into, would be good for arcanist cadaver in pit as well
Last time I actually used focus target was when fighting Zekvir in S1 TWW
i am not quite sure tho why the macro includes a focus and clears the focus in the same macro
Me either honestly
i know why
I guess as a spam protection if you press it multiple times
because /targetlasttarget was forgotten by them
Like if you dont have something focused, it will tab to something thats casting and then focus that, then if you happen to have pressed the ley too many times, it wont clear target again because the macro stops at your newest focus target or w/e
the whole macro gets executed before the next one afaik
it happens during a single tick
Oh
and if a focus already exist, those lines will not get executed anyway
What is the Best spec for each dungeon is there some one who did guide ? i am talking all slayer ( arms + fury )- closus - thane ETC
wanted to know if fury is better in skyreach
sending full colo, tempted to go tauren
colo everywhere outside of aa and skyreach
not sure about those 2
probably slarms
Colo is also semi being played in skyreach now
to be fair i also think slayer is better in nexus and maybe windrunner
If u can live
pug wont pull funnel for you . they rarly do
Then slay
✨💅🏻
I cant understand what im doing wrong playing col in keys, i have 289ilv and on big pulls like o pit for example, my damage is 350-500k and on yt they get to 800k even and im doing the same 
Yes
open your talent and write crit you will see all the benefit that crit give you
your crit proc stuff and lots of your talent give crit damage .
what key level?
18-19
when they dont pull funnel for you, you doing lower keys. and in those keys colossus is completly fine if played right
cus the longer the pull lives, the more dmg u do cus ur getting stacked demolishes off and just generally sending more cds
use Sweeping strike in pull timer, then see what mobs tank does good damage too and use mortal strike. cleave on them to get Colossus might stacks, helps a lot on opener damage with lust
Wdym in pull timer ?
before they put the key, they send pull timer. use sweeping strikes then
yeah that was a change this season
by pre-casting it, you can start its cooldown timer, letting you have more AoE since CS refreshes your SS stacks
I usally charge avatar rav cs cleave ms op cleave ms etc
that might be part of it too
It's charge, rend, rav, avatar+cs, Cleave many times. Then ms.
it's Charge -> Rend -> Ravager -> Avatar -> CS -> Cleave x 3 -> MS
Yes like this
quick question.. new to war. does demolish benefit from collosus smash if the debuff expires while it channels?
if you pre-cast SS, you can get your Colossal Might stacks up, letting you lead with Demolish instead, depending on stacks
CS only gives you additional damage if its actively present when the damage hits your target
I believe demo is actually multiple attacks channeled over its duration. So the portion with cs gets it but the following does not.
thanks guys
So if i pre cast ss i dont have to damage mobs before the big pull to make stacks
you absolutely do
it still has timer, 30 seconds, same as cooldown
the point is , with ss, you get more stacks because it counts as 2 mortal strikes
Ok then good
and a cleave or two if you have time 
Maybe get to 10 stacks when sending cds before demo
exactly
I played slayer mostly
honestly slayer makes no sense to me. i play it sure but i rather be slayer fury if dungeon doesnt let me be colossus for some reason
I wasnt doing too bad honestly
if you can get 10 stacks while the tank is still gathering mobs, it basically lets you do:
Major Cooldowns -> cast Demo right away -> use the free Cleaves from your CS to start rebuilding stacks immediately
slayer arms is hella fun
Thanks bro!
slayer rng is so annoying 
specially on first pack of AA
grats!
The keys are easy if you have the right group of ppl
lool
So everybody back to colossus again due to upcoming buffs or any other reason?
U got a goated premade tank? And premade skyfury?
Nah but ive just seen that most high rated players again switches back to colossus
Ur probably better off playing slayer then
My stats chopped gang? This with consumes on food excluded -
sim it, dont chase specific numbers
I think its a stack versa angle
0 versa
You guys recommend any good guide videos? Or just follow wowhead or one of those sites
Cheers boss
This past week I've started playing with an actual premade group, my god hearing my tank call out mobs for funnel activates my almonds
hi. can i see some of your UI setups? all these buttons are jamaican me crazy
i am finshing my 19 going 20 . i dont have time much this season to play alot and i have other game to play but i still consider 19 out of the lower key range but still no one funnel for you . that why lots of key i play slayer and i play closus on - Pit - Seat ( you can switch before last boss ) masaria cavren . slayer i play skyreach - academy - nexus point . and MT and WS i play what ever .
i still have low knowladge since when i have time i play other game to so i am not up to date so i wanted to ask is there dungeon where you switch mid dungeon etc ? like in seat ?
guys, how much does war gain with sham buff? ~ in %
8
ok thanks
question for you guys. If I'm going to farm a trinket for M+, and I already have the prism.. would you go for the heart of wind or puzzlebox?
I'm still working on getting the raid trinkets, but so far this is all I can do.
I've simmed it and puzzlebox sims higher, but I'm just thinking realistically over the course of a fast-paced dungeon, which do I actually want?
does anyone know a good profile for exboos addon?
Slarms build, most big first pulls on m+, 16-17 range, I am getting way out-dps'd by some classes when we use lust. Before I go record and watch to see wtf I'm doing wrong, is this expected? Do we benefit less from lust in those situations than other classes?
you're never going to get near them in first pull as slarms, but over the course of the key you'll be there overall
It does usually balance out, I just notice with lust pulls I feel behind. But if that's expected I feel better lol
stupid question perhaps for slayer m+ on the first large pull of the dungeon. should you hold bladestorm as long as possible to try and get some (generally less than 3) imminent demise (the sudden death) triggers, or just fire it right after colossus smash to try and get a second bladestorm in during cs?
i don't have any problems during the dungeon cause i almost always will have 3 imminent demise stacks before cs comes up so bladestorm is easy to slot in. just unsure at start (and i suppose if there are any large delays between pulls)
Nah just send
huh. makes that super easy. cheers : )
there is situations in aoe in which i feel like ive nothing to press but mortal strike (slayer arms) is that a normal thing? like if i get no procs, cleave and op on cd and rend up, u just send that ms over slam right
that is my understanding. if you got nothing else to press during aoe. then ms. once that is on cooldown and literally everything is used. slam and cry.
if i enjoy both which do you think performs better assuming tank isnt pulling trash to boss for funnel. slayer arms or MT fury in higher keys pugs? i do prefer colos arms but its 50/50 if tank plays around it and it feels bad when they dont.
if tank isn't pulling trash to boss for funnel, slayer arms is better.
The best answer is just to talk with the tank before you start the dungeon and ask him if he is pulling trash into boss for funnel. if he says yes, then colo is fine. if he says no or has no idea what you are talking about. slayer.
Physical angel comp
Yes
prestack with target dummy toys
hold last SD untill 5s in pull count then SD and walk away
do you mind explaining this in a little more detail like i am 5? cause first time hearing about this and it sounds really solid.
What i am understanding of that is:
So during the countdown after key is already placed. you put out target dummy toy. keep hitting it and hold SD until 5s (if multiple SD, hold last one). at 5 second, use SD and join the pull.
I for some reason thought you couldn't use target dummy toy in the dungeon while live though?
Seems like a comp that needs another arms warrior ngl
So for the Slayer M+ build.... Cleave > Sudden Death > OP > MS ?? If I don't have battle lord spec'd?
feels awkard to OP > MS
Not as much scaling as not having strong cds. Nor is our cs empowered
Avatar should just give u 5 stack or wtf it is imho
When is execute used in aoe for col?
hey friends, quick question cause i'm stupid, is the colossus buff on tuesday enough to make it always best for arms in m+?
@slow saddle I’m noticing as I watch criticake now he uses it so wasn’t sure
GUys bird boss in academy . dose reflect work for the 20% on the Deafening Screech
Sorry if answer is obvious but warr is not main this season, just gearing my alt...
When does colossus arms uses cleave in 2 targets? Does slayer ever uses cleave in 2 targets? I was never pressing cleave below 3 targets but i just watched critcake do a bunch of cleaves in 2 targets as colossus
Lol question above mine is similar
Cleave becomes a filler both specs for 2T instead of pressing slam when you dont have anything else to press
What about ST
ST not at all
Cool ty
Youre the goat ty
I thought sweeping strikes slam was better, now i know
Not nessiarily
what is the name of some of the toy training dummies for slayer pre stacking called?
Realistically colo and slayer should still be close enough to be played whenever you want
gotchu
fair
Probably still play slayer in aa at least
Both are still close enough you can genuinely play what you enjoy
If you like Colo play it in every key. If you like slayer play it in every key. You will time 22s on both specs
duly noted
tyvm
arms is still better than fury overall for keys right? or not exactly on that too
again same, what you like more. i have haste crit all my gear i cant play fury, depends on what you like and your gear, i dont want to get another set of gear with haste mastery or

You can play fury
Legit just swap out some rings
I ask all this like i'm ever gonna do more than weekly keys on my warrior lol
It won't be perfect but its pretty aight
it's just my alt but you guys in this discord are very very helpful
I appreciate yall
We try

Warrior is in an incredibly good state in M+ right now both arms and fury and both hero specs for each are all viable and doing well
nice
It's so close ppl constantly still ask what's better when it's just all good
I think this is best state for m+ warrior has been in....for years
It is and it's not close
I think this might be the best m+ warrior had arguably ever been overall as a class
atleast its probably the most fun since a long time
Ehhh personal taste there
I liked df arms more
And I think midnight fury dosent feel good.
Slayer is so much more fun in keys I refuse to play colo
I love rooting myself every 20 seconds
The fact they made you press demo twice as often makes it worse imo xD

playing colossus arms with puzzle box is peak gaming
more casts than a caster, but every ability is melee
idk, not everyone thinks the same, i enjoyed fyrakk legendary and demolish as it's successor
I hated fyrakk legendary because i didnt fucking loot the damn thing
i love the name of demolish, how it feels, how it applies deep wounds to everyone and makes me tankier for the duration, i feel as tanky as fury on arms for first time ever
Kinda same
But I did loot it
But that grind was fucking awful
if colossus was like last season where bleeds carried your single target damage, i would never change spec to anything
Fyrakk legendary was fine because you pressed it like every 2 minutes. Demolish you are pressing every 15-20
Only time I actually enjoyed demo was S3 TWW that's because demo actually hit as hard as it was supposed to
That button was a nuke in S3 so it was actually rewarding
Like ffs even in the df seasons we used cleave and lost a crapton of st for it felt better
Col ST isnt that bad anymore
80k is more than fine imo
Yeah now that they've buffed it 20 times
i was giving up on doing priory 18, i was fury back then, i changed to colossus arms and timed it, i think i was the first arms to time it back then
then i tried it in floodgate aswell it felt much better than fury, but fury RB spam Spin was also crazy back then
right now i don't see much comeptition for colossus arms
what i hate about pugging with slarms is how much i have to look at my hp constantly
and ironically the dungeons you want to play slarms in, are the ones that hurt the most
Time to play rampaging ruin
MT and skyreach


You can easily play Colo in those dungeons if you wanted
You don't have to play slarms anywhere
Col is defo way better in MT
Doesn't really matter
ye but more than enough aoe in that dungeon for col to shine
Not gonna be why you don't time the key
in my humble opinion what is mostly holding colossus back is the timer on colossal might
at least its hurting me a lot in pug keys
ye it sucks
I'm saying this as the prophet of slarms you can play both specs in every dungeons saying this is better here this is better there kinda pointless
Because both are just that good
i lose my apex and colossal might on crawth in AA
idk what other class suffers that much of dps loss from roleplay
maybe outlaw holding jackpot and waiting for bird to land, not even that i guess
colossal might needs to be longer for real
Real
sometimes i lose it to healer drinking mana
and tank asking healer for premission to pull where healer also takes his sweet time to respond
They can't design a new spec like ddh where nothing falls off and then make our spec have 2 sub 30 sec long buffs that we need
Gg
and it falls off after killing each boss in windrunner spire
i legit compete with tank on last boss of spire as colossus
no funnel, no stacks, low uptime
question, if I haven't gotten a mythic trinket yet, should I be crafting one? since it'd be a 10 ilvl upgrade. I'm not sure what's the best to craft and there's not much daata around them. bloodmallet says Darkmoon Dominion: Hunt is best
war is pretty new
used 8 voidcore rolls in Pit of Saron then used 2 more on Gaze
no luck yet
takes embellishment slot
so dont craft trink
if i make a new character for arms i wont even go near pit. i mean nexus rings sim higher anyway
and its not the end if your weapon is not crit haste
Pit has like 6 very good items wdym
Not going pit with a new character is straight grief
oh bummer, guide I Saw said Pit was pretty big. I mean everything in there is crit//haste
The bonus from the NPX rings is pretty neglectable
pit is the way, its 6/7 ideal items
way better bang for your buck on a fresh guy with bonus rolls
you can go roll for NPX set later with the rest of the bonus rolls
think about it, you go skyreach you get, you get bis dungeon trinket, a weapon, and all armor slots
for sure, but yeah forget the question because all the trinkets are embellished
No idk what he's talking about PIT is very very good for a fresh arms warrior
i rather craft crit haste neck on new character rather than using pit one
and pit ring will be replaced by NPX set
yeah I'm full keys
If you play Colo in keys you don't want npx rings
even in raid there are so many adds it really doesnt matter if you are pit ring or npx set
youd rather get basically guaranteed success on your first 6-7 rolls
here's gearset after like 10 days of gearing lol
the catchup is insane right now
making alts is finally easy
-10 for tmog
sims said crit /shrug
hahaha don't hate
fuck me, i can't belive you dont sim higher with eyes of the eagle
I'll have to re-run it now that I just got Heart of Wind
i think this one you just go with eyes of the eagle
you are stacking crit, and each time you crit you do 4% more damge
eyes of the eagle was already best before it got 100% buff xD
As you get gear eyes of the eagle will sim more
https://ibb.co/S4ryGYF3 this is me
i'll get shoulder and npx set with 3 bonus rolls on wenseday and i'm done with this character
these gloves do not sim better than normal for me
Love the mog and look
haha thank you
best part is that the axe is called "Nightfall" and is from Vanilla
and the title "of the Nightfall" is from last expac
does anyone use /cast ! whatever spell you want i saw for spinning crane kick it makes it have 0 delay when you spam it
good
@minor gust sorry colo owns too much i forgot how fun it was
TRAITOR
im pretty sure the "!" is just there so it wont stop channeling whatever its currently channeling
we have no abilities that would require logic like it
kaching
yeah i still tjhink its pretty funny
i doubt it in reality had anything to do with the simplification
it def did when it came to slayer imo
it played a very large part in removing jugg for sure
cause in theory jugg is kinda cool
like in df i didnt mind it at all
i think the bigger part of that was the design choice to let SD stack
it makes sense from a vibes perspective, but just so abusable
u would just get 2 in a row and lose a stack
wtf colo sim 8t 1min
need mastery ig
slurp slurp
very normal for colo
im dumb
i meant overpowerr
not mortal strike
do i overpower too often
cuz i thought mortal strike schould be on top
well overpower is going to cleave mobs, MS is just to get your demolish back
overpower is the direct damage and dreadnaught
cuz i feel like i cant peak high numbers like the others do im talking about 400-600k
im always on 400 or below
its telling me to go
npx 2set and crit gems

in aoe
sussy
good ol simming for M+
ig i just need mastery
want em for slayer 🙂
truth nuke
i reached 1m dps for the first time today
(i was playing fdk)
that spec is so fun icl
fdk is so much better
than unholy
gameplay wise
Which weapon is best for warrior? and no sim dont help me with choice. I seen a lot of differents weapon as bis. PoS weapon Voidcore paladins weapon itp
guys is there an addon which sound for cast on you?
u can get mastery elsewhere
aslo addon Tell me When still exist? and work?
i need something like the castonyou WA, it was so good
gotta work on haste somewhere i think
hey guys, quick question. with slayer m+ do we hold BS until CS in both ST and AoE?
Yes
thanks. I also see in peoples logs that avatar is being used after CS (shortly) is this just a log bug or is there a reason to macro them in that order?
no need to macro them . you just use it shortly after CS
you dont need to think too much about it . isnt a big deal
Hey everyone, is there an alignment of avatar, BS and CS we should aim for ? Specially with algethar box
do you use demolish without cs ?
Yes, I generally send it if I'm not going to get CS in the next >10 seconds
whats up with the cleave not going off when pressed? is there any workaround?
It’s a great ability
what are the best keys for colo and slayer ?
pos?
is there another good item like the turnip punching bag to place down to pre stack slayer buffs before key?
There’s a tuskarr punchin bag too I’m pre sure
thanks will look into it
What opener do we use in M+?
1st image is old
Cs used to give 3 cleaves with no cd
Gotcha, thank you.
if you dont have the rage to do 4 cleaves are you filling with overpower till you get 3 cleaves
hey short question. do we ever use cleave on 2 targets?
When it glows at max collateral stacks but you dont have to really csre
Its 3 cleave for starters
And in that rare instance probably
@nova marsh ty
so even in opening pull we cleave 3x mortal to get the 10 stack then use it?
i saw crit cake just send it off the rip with the little stacks he has
I feel like the more i care less about getting to 10 stacks actually get me better damage.
real answer is it really just doesnt matter
^
cant speak for Crit but hes likely just doing it feels more enjoyable to play not thinking about stacks just press the demo button after cs no thinky get on cd so you can press it again
i am going to try a 21 sr as colossus 
I do remember him saying something very similar to that
The DPS between Demo with CS and no CS with the latest CD reduction on it is small at best
I ain't giving Colo a touch till buffs

yeah im kinda just sending it since reset is tomorrow anyway
my AA is still at a 15 lmao
Holy friends advantage! Doing a 21 with a 15 AA you can't do that!
every time I do a key I gain like 50 io lol
xD
Lmao
A tragedy, in 2 parts.
Instabrick?
ye
Ooooofff
devourer accidentally pulled extra dread raven and got 1 shot
Death spiral after?
Sounds about right
