#arms

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grand sapphire
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Prio damage

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Arms is the best prio damage spec in the game by a mile

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Meanwhile fury actually loses single target while doing its aoe rotation

latent moss
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casual 400k crit

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colo gonna start doing 6 trillion dps on 3t

latent moss
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soon tm

minor gust
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Thought that was mythic for a sec and was pogging out. I start my Trial with parallax next week. My guild let me go after belo since we have another warrior who was chillin on bench for crown and belo.

minor gust
latent moss
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cut to the bone my beloved...

rare kite
minor gust
rare kite
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oh so you didn't get kicked

minor gust
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Lol yeah no

rare kite
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you said "let go" which i thought in this context meant fired hahah

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or kicked

minor gust
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Fair. Yeah I was just like hey gonna be last tier with the guild got an offer somewhere else. I'm totally down to stay for Lura unless they thought it would be unfair to our other warrior who was on bench if I was just gonna leave immediately after killing Lura.

proper moth
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Looking over my logs, is slayer parsing=how many SD procs did I get?

thick kelp
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yes

full loom
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for a fresh 90 arms war, whats the best dungeon to use our bonus rolls on?

minor gust
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Pit

full loom
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just spam pit and use all rerolls there?

dim basalt
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ye

minor gust
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if you fresh yeah

full loom
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yeah fresh boy

thick kelp
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pit -> npx

full loom
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ty

left shard
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what pre pots u guys running with colo?

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lights or reck

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?

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reck doesnt feel bad at all i was lights until now

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now im trying reck

thick kelp
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reck

steep tree
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anybody know a quick and easy way to farm any type of crest

proper moth
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I think rituals are the move

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Myth you’ll have to do keys

hard rock
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Anyone mapped out the % dps changes on the reset changes?

civic dew
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yo guys, is there any way to track swing timer without weakauras atm?

rare kite
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no

civic dew
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cant find any addon actually

hard rock
proper moth
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You guys sending demo nearly on cd on mythic dragons?

lunar idol
proper moth
lunar idol
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At pull yes

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And during interphase. But never tried on a confortable kill because we were on progress. Next week i will try to tweak

proper moth
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Gotcha gotcha same best pull 35% so far

lunar idol
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We killed it last pull

proper moth
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Nice!

lunar idol
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Good luck !

proper moth
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Thank you!

minor gust
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Funny lil bug

sand totem
# minor gust Funny lil bug

Ive noticed if you use any fury legion artifact, it REALLY wants to display both of them.
I use the dragonslayer axes in my mog and it doubles them up fucking everywhere lmao

tranquil swift
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@minor gust haha I have that too!

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Sick mog

minor gust
full grotto
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jesus whats with hunters in m+

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they always die

vital prairie
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where can i find pvp info

pseudo lichen
wind hatch
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gl on ur trial

minor gust
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❤️

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we held dmg for our belo kill so rip parse

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think I only did 124k

wind hatch
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just let the rest of your raid hold dmg

weak rain
rancid willow
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Struggling with dmg on opening pulls as slayer. I’m generally doing the following:

Avatar+CS>Pot>Rend>BS>SD (if it procs)>cleave spam>OP>MS.

My Ret teammate is destroying me on opening pulls. I’ll beat him on most boss fights but opening pulls he’s doing 1/3 more dmg than me, sometimes more.

weak rain
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cleave spam>sd proc

sacred zodiac
knotty solstice
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execute range in slayer spec, am i executing to 2 stacks of EP and then MS, overpower as needed, or am I only using MS if colossus smash up?

weak rain
sacred zodiac
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and is it parallax gaming on stormrage or a different guild

wind hatch
sacred zodiac
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applying to take your spot as we speak

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ew someone logged m+ onto the guild wclogs

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???

minor gust
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Spongie my biggest hater

sacred zodiac
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get cooked buddy

rancid willow
hasty pumice
weak rain
rancid willow
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Ok so let tank gather, rend…coolies, burst ?

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I sometimes do that

sacred zodiac
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yeah why are you spending a gcd in cs rending

full grotto
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because i forget to rend before

minor gust
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gg you lost 10 billion dmg

sacred zodiac
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just hearth out at that point

full grotto
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my hearth is on cd from my other failed groupsadge

minor gust
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alt f4 angle

full grotto
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i play on controller sadge

wind hatch
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throw your controller at monitor angle

sleek quarry
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Any suggestions on bonus rolls following depleting Pit? Do I send for puzzle box?

sacred zodiac
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npx set or some gloves idk sim yourself

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depends if you have raid trinkets

nova marsh
slender sonnet
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Play wow on controller

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Don’t be a pussy

undone aurora
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is anyone good to check my arms logs in help and log review, my damage is BAADDDDDD and idk why

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I kinda inted that 20 by being unable to follow tank movements properly

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but my damage was also terrible

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like mega bad

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unholy and ret 210k overall while i'm at 166k

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watching critcake and stuff I feel like rotationally i'm not doing anything super different at least, i'm getting a bit more liberal with my cds in that I was testing if that was the source of the problem

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but now I feel im getting less dmg so idk

full grotto
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you need to give more info than that

undone aurora
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well I posted my logs in the channel

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it drives me a bit mental bc idk how i'm doing so terrible at it

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im kinda low on crit but surely it's not THAT hindering

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when I look at this it's not like, phenomenally different other than he has more casts for cleave and stuff but overall idk

full grotto
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i mean you lose a lot of damage by dying

undone aurora
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my deaths were generally only like 1 second

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insta rez

minor gust
# undone aurora unholy and ret 210k overall while i'm at 166k

if you genuinely feel like you are doing the priority correctly then you need to look at your other wow skills. Focus on uptime, positioning, and CD usage. make sure you are always hitting stuff and pressing a button every global. All your aoe dmg is from frontals so make sure you are positioned close enough to as many mobs as possible so you are able to hit as much as possible with cleave and demolish and DN. Make sure you are sending your short cds like CS and Demo on CD even if things are low health as the CDR makes them come back very quickly.

wind hatch
clever wave
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I notice a lot of ppl dealing with low arms dmg are not playing around the cleave cone

undone aurora
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this could be it

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I need to practice on a dummy or smth to see the cone

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is there a visual for it?

clever wave
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Also sending cds early before mobs are set

minor gust
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cleave aoe is not that large

clever wave
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Is another big one

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Kinda have to be patient

minor gust
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its very easy to miss mobs that are a lil spread out

undone aurora
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I think it must be my positioning then

minor gust
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positioning is very very important especially for colo

undone aurora
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is there a way to make it clearer when I am for sure hitting targets

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bc currently it's just like

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I see a tiny bunch of numbers flicker around

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but idk of that's like

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me hitting 2 or 8

minor gust
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just get used to knowing how large the cleave radius actually is

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go by the training dummies and keep moving around and find the max limits of cleave

undone aurora
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how much would I also be hindered by having like 27% crit

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I have 825

minor gust
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More crit will help but its not the reason your dmg is that low

full grotto
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agree

undone aurora
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yeah that's fair I was just wondering how much of an impact

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how does demolish damage range work?

full loom
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any good video guides that are up to date for arms gameplay/rotation etc?

undone aurora
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cause one thing that happens often is I demolish, and then tank drags mobs away and I can't always tell if I still got the dmg from it

minor gust
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the dmg will still go off unless the mobs move significantly fast and far mostly leapers.

undone aurora
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I see

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well thank you for the advice guys I am going to pay alot more mind to my positioning

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feels better knowing there's a digestible thing I can work on

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also one more thing, does def stance reduce aggro pull?

minor gust
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yes

undone aurora
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I see critcake often go def stance and hit the mobs as tank is gathering

undone aurora
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bc I often rip aggro tryna build stacks or dmg before pull filly sends

minor gust
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just you do less dmg so you gen less threat

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still more important to really make sure you are hitting mobs that the tank has used actual abillities on

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and not just a light tag with an aoe spell

clever wave
faint goblet
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chat, did blizzard fix the issue with champion spear macro breaking at the beginning of the season?

dire hinge
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no idea tbh, i haven't talented spear in years 😬
if it's a PVP thing you can check #pvp

rare kite
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who knows, no one uses champion spear xD

full grotto
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i mean its also survivng certain pulls that would instant kill you if you didn't have d stance

hybrid needle
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Can we bladestorm or demolish thru the stun wave on last boss ws? Never tried and arrows are buggy so im curious

hybrid needle
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Yes to both ?

rare kite
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yes to both

hybrid needle
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Nice, ty

viral fiber
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What, so we just bladestorm and pass ring?

rare kite
viral fiber
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Any other tech like this on other dungeons?

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Can we remove pit gargolyte, skyreach last boss add, maisara mini boss?

balmy kindle
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Gargoyle yea

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Mini boss yes too

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But SR last boss mechanic no

viral fiber
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How do we remove grip only bladestorm or demolish?

viral fiber
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Or is it too far

balmy kindle
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Hmm I have tried a few times seems too far

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Like even with dragon glide it seems impossible

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So idk how others do itKEKW

rare kite
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can void elf racial but that's about it i think

viral fiber
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Ok but since its 2 target we dont bother much anyways yeah?

tulip gust
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If your tank participates in the shenanigans, you can charge the boss back onto the platform

balmy kindle
upper sparrow
dire hinge
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it's VERY finicky i wouldn't rely on it, but yes i've done it

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if you can get the boss in range, you can Charge back on, and it's much more reliable

viral fiber
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Arms defensive feels good get agro and use 100% parry

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Can survive till tank taunts back

dire hinge
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it's very handy

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You can taunt -> Spell Reflect some beefy tank busters. There isn't many this season though

viral fiber
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Wow I can reflect SR buster

dire hinge
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some of them*

viral fiber
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If dungeon tp on cd do we walk back to entrance and switch to slayer on seat last boss?

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Is it worth the wait time

novel hare
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is collosus still very good or is slayer way ahead

dire hinge
dire hinge
novel hare
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ty

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do i need more than 30% crit

dire hinge
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specific secondary amounts aren't something you should chase, just Sim your gear as you go and it'll tell you which pieces of gear are good for you.
Arms likes all stats in various amounts

mossy bane
# viral fiber Can we heroic leap?

It isnt about how far, its about how leap work, for leap you need a pathway and SR add take you out of platform, but charge works bit different, or intercept on ally

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Leap i kinda wietd tech, because leap makes you travel "on your curent height" if.yiu have pathway, but if you jump up and leap at peak mid air, you could leap above nexus lasers (for example)

viral fiber
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Is it me or arms feel unplayable without shaman buff?

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Sometimes I have to 2-3 sec without anything to press because no rage

novel hare
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idk how u arms guys do it that shit feels miserable

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still top dmg tho KEKW

burnt gale
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I don't think Arms GCD locked, even with a shaman. I also don't think Arms is the only spec with the occasional "dont/cant press anything" GCD

rare kite
novel hare
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Col simmed at 80k Slayer at 93k and Fury at 115k

tranquil swift
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fury does not do more damange than arms lol

flint cedar
glass vale
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Can someone explain to me why some guides say in AOE to demolish regardless of colossus smash or not, aslong as u can get one inside ur smash window, and some say save it for ONLY during colossus smash and never try to squeeze one between.. im getting mixed signals.

runic urchin
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hey guys whats the best bonus roll dungeon for arms

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im finally getting around to playing mine

dire hinge
runic urchin
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W thats what i have

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wait wtf why is literally everything in pit crit haste that's hilarious

nova marsh
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With the CDR increase buff from a few weeks ago, you can decide to send one in between for 3+ targets

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As long as CS isn't like 15 seconds out, there's no real reason not to send it

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Within 15 seconds + Cs's duration you will get demo back

glass vale
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ty :3

nova marsh
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Really it's more like 10 seconds but you get the idea

dire hinge
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they've changed arms so many times, it's like every other week sad_cat

rare kite
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now change it so ravager is removed

dire hinge
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real, just make it an avatar passive

rare kite
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i'd take that as well but would prefer archi's cs talent suggestion. just a talent that increases cs damage by x(he suggested 300%) but whatever the number is could easily be tuned

nova marsh
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instead of getting nerfed like evrey week, blizzard randomly decided to buff the living crap out of us

balmy kindle
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Not complainingokayge amazing for pushing higher keys

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First time I've seen ppl stating for war in lobbies KEKW

wind hatch
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just did a 20 npx with no shaman

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actual torture

nova marsh
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Slayer or colossus

bronze saddle
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What do you think about my stats? (This is with haste flask) should I add more mastery to it to balance? (Convert head piece to haste/mast?)

drowsy sierra
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Is there a point where certain stats hit a ceiling and isn't worth investing in it anymore?

soft ridge
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are people simming around 112k max for arms

lament plank
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For ST or M+

soft ridge
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ST

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im simming 115 Fury and 109 Arms and just trying to figure out where i can can improve and whats best for Lura

wind hatch
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arms is a bit better for lura but the difference isnt massive you can play whatever

novel hare
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Any clue why id sim at 80 and 90k on both arms specs at 290 with 30% crit?

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🤔

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I sim 115k on fury slayer

wind hatch
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send sim report

novel hare
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on laptop now ill send 2moro if u see it

rare kite
novel hare
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like i can get a crit wep or neck but 30% seems decent

bronze saddle
soft ridge
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simming will answer these questins

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but if you dont want to do that it looks spot on

rare kite
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yea something is definetely off coz i'm simming 107k at 289 @novel hare

novel hare
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I run the exaxt same sim on fury and its 115k vs 80k col and 92k slayer

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odd

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ill look furhter 2moro

rare kite
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and i sim 116k as fury(well 115.9 to be exact)

thick kelp
viral fiber
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What options do we sim? I am using 1 target 3 min and 8 target 1.30

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Sim says haste better over crit but crit is our bis stat?

rare kite
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i just sim 1t 5m patchwerk. there's no such thing as an always best stat, if sim says you want haste then you want haste

viral fiber
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I have giga full bis gears

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Now I need to change it again?

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Maybe use haste pot and call it?

rare kite
thick kelp
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doesnt sound like you have giga full bis gears

viral fiber
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But this cycle will never end?

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Once I follow sim it still want me to change to something

rare kite
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ok just to make sure, is it within margin?

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link the sim

thick kelp
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First problem is simming stat weights

minor gust
spark mango
clever crag
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Any advice to get 95 parse on paladins ?

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Seems way easier as fury looking at the numbers

distant echo
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For mythic?

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Velen takes 60% increased dmg for 20-30 sec when u bl so u gotta max ur dps on him

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But cleave is still a priority

hard rock
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Woops didn’t mean to reply

clever crag
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I ravagered before my cs+demo and swapped that around and thats also a nice dps increase

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But as the fight goes long by the 3rd rav its kinda scuffed

latent moss
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ye i forgot to sim that but idk

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i doubt 1mbg global is worse than 1cs global

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but iirc fishy simmed it a while ago

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and cs global was better

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man i wanna make an addon that plays the pipes sound whenever u cleave with ravager up

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thats genuinely how it feels to press cleave in cds as colo

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cant wait for reset and the humble 500k hs crit

clever crag
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With rav after you get more cleaves in

latent moss
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ahhh

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i remember

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u dont get an extra cleave

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if u rav later

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so its no value

clever crag
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Idk my burst is way higher that way

latent moss
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rng

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ur cleaves/fob slams crit more

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colo has a lot of rng

clever crag
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We did like 30 pulls yday and after switch I shot up way higher

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Might be idk

latent moss
clever crag
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Critcake does it and he gets 100s and 99s

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So why not

latent moss
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experience the humble fob hs crits

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"my spec funnels more than arms!!"

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the humble 6 trillion hs crit

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the humble 5 trillion cleave crit

latent moss
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i had a 1.5 mil global on hc paladins

clever crag
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I should just go fury

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Their 95 is like 170k lol

silk spade
latent moss
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no utility chatting

clever crag
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On arms I have to do what 220k? Crazy

latent moss
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ye but arms

untold pewter
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Doesn't make much sense to think of it that way

latent moss
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does a lot more dmg

untold pewter
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Yeah lmao

latent moss
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like

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SIGNIFICANTLY more

silk spade
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me when i dont understand relativity

latent moss
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especially on 3t

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if paladins was true 3t

clever crag
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Its not 3t all the way tho

latent moss
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i think arms wouldve exploded

clever crag
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Those bitches split all the time

latent moss
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ages ago

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i mean even on 2t its not close

silk spade
latent moss
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the humble arms on rashanan

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0 add dmg

untold pewter
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There's really no secret there
Do your 3 target burn when you have 3, otherwise play your 2 target rotation

Sweeping uptime is all there is to it

clever crag
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Do you spam the cleaves on 2t or nah

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The free cleaves

untold pewter
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No

thick kelp
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just spend 3 collat cleaves as a filler above slam in 2t

clever crag
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You still use empowered cleave tho right ?

untold pewter
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With 3 collat yes

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And only to replace slam

clever crag
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Guide acts like it doesn’t exist

untold pewter
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Not other buttons

untold pewter
clever crag
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The 3x collat vs slam is negligible?

untold pewter
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Yep

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Refresh rend before a target leaves
Sweeping uptime
Get your demolish resets and use it correctly based on your CS cooldown or on whether you'll have 3 targets availabe soon
Cleave with 3x collat on 2 target above slam

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Otherwise it's just the regular prio for 2t

clever crag
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Been doing all that except fucking up my 2t with collateral

distant echo
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Paladins is arms boss, if you go fury.. youre trolling mate

drowsy sierra
minor gust
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collateral damage talent

stoic epoch
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quick question for seat i wanna run coloss but for last boss how can i tp out quick infront oif the dungeon to go slayer?

brave silo
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I guess when you start the key walk there manually, then use dungeon port after 2nd last boss

mortal crag
bronze moon
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i have a question

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i have these but i just got myth track bracers

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should i make the bracers a set peace and just have higher ilvl?

wind hatch
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3 extra ilvl on a low budget piece like bracers isnt worth losing an embellishment

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unless you have the crests and you can craft in another slot thats not myth track

full grotto
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this is what a embellishment salesman would say. how much is the auction house paying you

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yea 3 ilvl is nothing

bronze moon
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kk, ty for the help fellas

wind hatch
clever crag
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Im fully bised out except one ring

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Kind of a bad feeling actually

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Not looking forward to vault

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Well might start collecting fury bis

bronze moon
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does stat spread look decent?

latent moss
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prolly want more haste

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but as always

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sim it

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if its simming the highest then its good

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try simming stuff like haste flask

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haste heavy gems etc

wet brook
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How do you sim for m+ environment? Do like 1 patchwork and other sims to like 5?

latent moss
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i do st 3min and 8t 1min

wind flicker
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I usually do 1.5 min 10

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Quite a lot of high target count pulls

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And chains etc

latent moss
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fob is so unreal xdd

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2 mil global should be doable on 3t on reset

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can someone send me simc addon input as colo im not home

wind flicker
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Im excited too haha

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Prio target is gonna be even better, and funnel on bosses

balmy kindle
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Playing colo in raid? monkahmm

cursive summit
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as colossus in M+ do we just send demolish when we can, or do we have to manage stacks of colossal might?

balmy kindle
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10+ and with CS

distant echo
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Sometimes u gotta send without CS

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Its possible to get two demolishs in one CS

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Sometimes

balmy kindle
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Yeah if it's like 15-20 s to next cs

distant echo
cursive summit
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so demolish only during CS, or when at 10 stacks outside of CS?

slender raptor
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As slayer, do we spam execute in execute phase or 2 x execute > MS?

balmy kindle
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Like there's some naunce, you want to use Demo within CS but if you can't get 10 stacks in time (usually 1st pull) you still send demo

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Otherwise you wanna try using it on 10 stacks

cursive summit
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oke thanks

distant echo
balmy kindle
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I think raid spec you still MS though, that exception is for m+ because the m+ variation makes MS a low prior button

onyx gust
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guys when there is a sitation when i have bladestorm up but 8s to avatar is worth to wait 8s and then use BS?

slender raptor
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I'd wait and use anger management to reduce the cd

exotic horizon
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i came here to say i am angry at my self . and i want an addon that alert me on Stance .

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i usally dont do this mistake but today i did . are you guys using somthing for stance

latent moss
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defensive stance reminder

viscid mica
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i have it on the tracked buffs

nova ravine
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I just forget and do an entire run in def stance… or tank in battle

atomic mist
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Is collosus getting st buff this week?

misty bridge
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yes

atomic mist
keen forge
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Any ideas how to get CE so i can actually try to farm gaze? It's been around 6h without any invites now lol

latent moss
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do u have friends with ce i dont endorse this behavior but u can ask them to send u their achi then u just send it to pug leaders

keen forge
keen forge
latent moss
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try it sometimes they dont bother actually checking

zenith lodge
latent moss
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realistically

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u wont find good people

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on resets people pug for rekills

spring vale
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I got my first chimmy kill from a semi guild run posted in lfg

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At the end it was like 12+ CE achievements in chat lol

keen forge
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i was in a solid group last week, but had to leave after like 15 wipes

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3% best wipe

spring vale
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Sad

keen forge
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i was so salty

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but id be single if i didnt leave, so i guess im lacking commitment lol

spring vale
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The fight isnt too bad but its like 90% carried by the tanks + fast DKs

latent moss
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and locks

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curse powerful

spring vale
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Oh fair didnt think of that

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Easy to take them for granted and then you notice the fear add cast time without curse is soo much faster lmao

keen forge
misty bridge
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ah

latent moss
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but just get 4 dks and intermission is solved

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only place u can wipe on that fight anyway

spring vale
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Real

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Most groups nowadays only do like 1 soak after intermission

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And the last soak is a sac

latent moss
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every group ive been in has done that

clever crag
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Write a note it helps

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Legit

spring vale
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Just fkin rush the boss before consume

latent moss
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u can also just lie in note

spring vale
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Unethical cone

clever crag
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“Big dam” “most damage” and its 50% extra chance to invite

latent moss
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"ce on main"

keen forge
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"know what to do, trust" isnt working

clever crag
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“Multi r1 gladiator, HoF on main”

keen forge
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ill try that

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ill let you know if it works

latent moss
#

worked for me

keen forge
#

"Multi r1 gladiator, actually owner of liquid AND echo" didnt work yet

leaden garnet
#

Or "big pumper"

#

Like, dipshit, I can see your logs. Your best is green, your median is grey. Sit down

clever crag
#

My median is 90% in mythic kek

#

Im not lying when I say that shit

keen forge
#

except youre still playing warr

leaden garnet
#

:)

#

I'm 90th median too, but only 3/9M so it doesn't count

#

"I'm the tallest dwarf" type comment

clever crag
#

Warr is top dps in m+

#

I dont pug mythic

leaden garnet
#

Yeah after next reset arms honestly might have an argument for best m+ DPS I have checked logs and this is definitely not true

distant echo
#

Wouldnt say arms is the top dps

#

Unholy dk have been in the top meta for too long

clever crag
#

Im basing this off Bizentein overalls

distant echo
#

Yeah but thats based on the player behind the screen

#

U can still play the shittiest spec and still perform better than the top specs mediocre players if youre good

fresh spire
#

i wouldn't say is the "best" dps, but damn arms is in the best state its been in m+ history this patch

daring heron
#

it's rly rly strong

#

not quite strong enough to be in meta comp

fresh spire
#

Good st, good aoe, has utility, tanky as fuck compared to before

daring heron
#

this is the ideal place to be xd

fresh spire
#

its not crushing, but its good, nerf hammer avoiding spot

clever crag
#

Our tankiness is very nice

#

Ppl dying left and right on paladins and I just pop DBTS and eat hammers lol

#

Any misplays instantly healed by IV

stray vault
#

After reset colossus will be better for every dungeon or slayer will have something left?

clever crag
#

After the 10% extra MS dmg ?

#

Doesnt seem that insane to overtake slayer on ST

fiery inlet
#

is the numerical dps difference between fury and arms that big? cus applying to 19's im just seeing every lead talk negatively about fury, or is this literally the effect of "meta perception"

fresh spire
#

3% isnt alot when the number between slayer and colossus average is still substancial, sims at least colossus in my current gear is like 20k behind, 3% doesn't make that much room but it helps

fresh spire
clever crag
#

Fury warriors are usually worse at the game too cuz its easier. And ppl are meta slaves

#

So 1% to them is difference between invite and decline

fiery inlet
fiery inlet
clever crag
#

Its also way more popular spec than arms

#

Its like frost mages vs arcane

onyx jacinth
#

As a very fresh arms player I can confirm I found new ways to die because of trying to do rotation Pedro

fiery inlet
clever crag
#

The fact that arms is like the most unpruned spec left and fury thane is 3 buttons also helps lol

spring vale
#

fury gameplay also attracts the same kind of players that bm hunter gameplay attracts

flat willow
#

actually it doesn't

#

I know cuz I have a friend who plays BM and can't play fury cuz you have to know how to count to 4 for meat cleaver

radiant ravine
#

any reasons why the big m+ pumpers hit sweeping 3 sec before a talented colossus smash?

tardy hawk
clever crag
#

Yes

#

Reck is huge

tardy hawk
#

with zerker rage to, hmmm

clever crag
#

Especially when you have 0 vers

tardy hawk
#

yer i have fkin like 1%

clever crag
#

Arms just loves crit

tardy hawk
#

nono it is crit we good lol

fiery inlet
tardy hawk
#

Oh does it idk

fiery inlet
#

i thought it did but im sure some more intelligent people here can correct me

pearl shore
#

even tho the reflect doesn't work on every ability the dr of spell reflect does, right?

#

for every magic ability ofc

spring vale
#

guys you know the brainrot kick macro

#

#showtooltip YOUR INTERRUPT
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead,harm] YOUR INTERRUPT
/stopmacro [@focus,exists,nodead,harm]
/focus target
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast YOUR INTERRUPT
/target focus
/clearfocus
/startattack

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how does it interact with the last boss in NPX

#

all of the images are casting

#

Will it still interrupt the current target im on if I pick the correct one first, or will it clear that target and then interrupt any of the other ones that are casting

feral breach
#

that long as macro

#

just to press tab

#

and then your kick

burnt gale
#

Does tab smartly target the next mob that is casting?

spring vale
#

it does, but when more than 1 is casting it can target any of them

spring vale
flat willow
#

That's their most defining feature

feral breach
#

macro goes from top to bottom:
first 2 lines get ignored (no focus at this point)
it will create a focus at your current target, which might be the one you try to kick
then targets the next valid target in front of you, it clears it first, so it can target the same one
it will kick this target.

I would advice having a normal kick for that

#

when they are closely stacked, you might kick the wrong one

#

one of the few things you should not always tab kick anyway

#

it is save if there is no other target in your melee range

spring vale
#

Oki ty i always land the kicks in npx pretty consistently but I dont wanna fucking wipe us cause oops macro didnt start with what I had originally targetted

#

I guess a way to make sure it targets what im clicking on first would be setting focus target on the correct lothraxion image?

#

like find correct guy, focus target it, then macro

feral breach
#

as far as i understand the macro, yes

spring vale
#

Oki ty ty

feral breach
#

if focus exist, only the first 2 lines are executed

spring vale
#

Might be a good habit to get into, would be good for arcanist cadaver in pit as well

#

Last time I actually used focus target was when fighting Zekvir in S1 TWW

feral breach
#

i am not quite sure tho why the macro includes a focus and clears the focus in the same macro

spring vale
#

Me either honestly

feral breach
#

i know why

spring vale
feral breach
#

because /targetlasttarget was forgotten by them

spring vale
#

Like if you dont have something focused, it will tab to something thats casting and then focus that, then if you happen to have pressed the ley too many times, it wont clear target again because the macro stops at your newest focus target or w/e

feral breach
#

the whole macro gets executed before the next one afaik

#

it happens during a single tick

spring vale
#

Oh

feral breach
#

and if a focus already exist, those lines will not get executed anyway

exotic horizon
#

What is the Best spec for each dungeon is there some one who did guide ? i am talking all slayer ( arms + fury )- closus - thane ETC

#

wanted to know if fury is better in skyreach

granite swift
#

sending full colo, tempted to go tauren

latent moss
#

not sure about those 2

#

probably slarms

hasty pumice
exotic horizon
hasty pumice
#

So rip slarms on Wednesday

exotic horizon
#

pug wont pull funnel for you . they rarly do

slow saddle
#

Then slay

hasty pumice
latent moss
#

i mean if u dont get funnel

#

just go slayer

leaden hare
#

which stat do arms want reck on

#

crit ?

soft peak
#

I cant understand what im doing wrong playing col in keys, i have 289ilv and on big pulls like o pit for example, my damage is 350-500k and on yt they get to 800k even and im doing the same okayge

soft peak
leaden hare
#

wow strange

#

is there something that uses crit stats for crit dmg?

exotic horizon
#

your crit proc stuff and lots of your talent give crit damage .

soft peak
#

18-19

spark mango
fiery inlet
#

cus the longer the pull lives, the more dmg u do cus ur getting stacked demolishes off and just generally sending more cds

spark mango
soft peak
#

Wdym in pull timer ?

spark mango
#

before they put the key, they send pull timer. use sweeping strikes then

soft peak
#

Lol i thought it was on timer ss

#

But apparently its on 12 abilities

dire hinge
#

yeah that was a change this season

#

by pre-casting it, you can start its cooldown timer, letting you have more AoE since CS refreshes your SS stacks

soft peak
#

I usally charge avatar rav cs cleave ms op cleave ms etc

dire hinge
#

that might be part of it too

ashen arrow
#

It's charge, rend, rav, avatar+cs, Cleave many times. Then ms.

dire hinge
#

it's Charge -> Rend -> Ravager -> Avatar -> CS -> Cleave x 3 -> MS

soft peak
#

Yes like this

ancient sluice
#

quick question.. new to war. does demolish benefit from collosus smash if the debuff expires while it channels?

dire hinge
#

if you pre-cast SS, you can get your Colossal Might stacks up, letting you lead with Demolish instead, depending on stacks

soft peak
#

Nice

#

Thanks, didnt know

dire hinge
ashen arrow
ancient sluice
#

thanks guys

soft peak
#

So if i pre cast ss i dont have to damage mobs before the big pull to make stacks

dire hinge
#

you absolutely do

spark mango
spark mango
soft peak
#

Ok then good

dire hinge
#

and a cleave or two if you have time hmmNod

soft peak
#

Maybe get to 10 stacks when sending cds before demo

dire hinge
#

exactly

soft peak
#

I played slayer mostly

spark mango
#

honestly slayer makes no sense to me. i play it sure but i rather be slayer fury if dungeon doesnt let me be colossus for some reason

soft peak
#

I wasnt doing too bad honestly

dire hinge
#

if you can get 10 stacks while the tank is still gathering mobs, it basically lets you do:
Major Cooldowns -> cast Demo right away -> use the free Cleaves from your CS to start rebuilding stacks immediately

runic tundra
#

slayer arms is hella fun

soft peak
#

Slayer is less buttons to press

#

… but you need to pray for sd procs

dire hinge
#

slayer rng is so annoying sad_cat

spark mango
#

specially on first pack of AA

soft peak
#

I got to 3500 today

#

I want to push higher

dire hinge
#

grats!

soft peak
#

The keys are easy if you have the right group of ppl

granite swift
tight basin
#

So everybody back to colossus again due to upcoming buffs or any other reason?

fiery inlet
tight basin
#

Nah but ive just seen that most high rated players again switches back to colossus

fiery inlet
#

Ur probably better off playing slayer then

rustic igloo
#

My stats chopped gang? This with consumes on food excluded -

nova marsh
#

Meh

#

get more haste ig?

#

Trust the clanka

dire hinge
#

sim it, dont chase specific numbers

wind flicker
#

I think its a stack versa angle

thick kelp
atomic mist
#

You guys recommend any good guide videos? Or just follow wowhead or one of those sites

leaden garnet
#

Bizentein has a fantastic guide

#

Watch that

atomic mist
#

Cheers boss

leaden garnet
meager seal
#

hi. can i see some of your UI setups? all these buttons are jamaican me crazy

exotic horizon
# spark mango when they dont pull funnel for you, you doing lower keys. and in those keys colo...

i am finshing my 19 going 20 . i dont have time much this season to play alot and i have other game to play but i still consider 19 out of the lower key range but still no one funnel for you . that why lots of key i play slayer and i play closus on - Pit - Seat ( you can switch before last boss ) masaria cavren . slayer i play skyreach - academy - nexus point . and MT and WS i play what ever .

i still have low knowladge since when i have time i play other game to so i am not up to date so i wanted to ask is there dungeon where you switch mid dungeon etc ? like in seat ?

cobalt lava
#

guys, how much does war gain with sham buff? ~ in %

thick kelp
#

8

cobalt lava
#

ok thanks

silent saddle
#

question for you guys. If I'm going to farm a trinket for M+, and I already have the prism.. would you go for the heart of wind or puzzlebox?

I'm still working on getting the raid trinkets, but so far this is all I can do.

I've simmed it and puzzlebox sims higher, but I'm just thinking realistically over the course of a fast-paced dungeon, which do I actually want?

rain cipher
#

does anyone know a good profile for exboos addon?

vagrant hull
#

Slarms build, most big first pulls on m+, 16-17 range, I am getting way out-dps'd by some classes when we use lust. Before I go record and watch to see wtf I'm doing wrong, is this expected? Do we benefit less from lust in those situations than other classes?

granite swift
vagrant hull
#

It does usually balance out, I just notice with lust pulls I feel behind. But if that's expected I feel better lol

ashen arrow
#

stupid question perhaps for slayer m+ on the first large pull of the dungeon. should you hold bladestorm as long as possible to try and get some (generally less than 3) imminent demise (the sudden death) triggers, or just fire it right after colossus smash to try and get a second bladestorm in during cs?

#

i don't have any problems during the dungeon cause i almost always will have 3 imminent demise stacks before cs comes up so bladestorm is easy to slot in. just unsure at start (and i suppose if there are any large delays between pulls)

ashen arrow
night pumice
#

there is situations in aoe in which i feel like ive nothing to press but mortal strike (slayer arms) is that a normal thing? like if i get no procs, cleave and op on cd and rend up, u just send that ms over slam right

ashen arrow
woven void
#

if i enjoy both which do you think performs better assuming tank isnt pulling trash to boss for funnel. slayer arms or MT fury in higher keys pugs? i do prefer colos arms but its 50/50 if tank plays around it and it feels bad when they dont.

ashen arrow
#

if tank isn't pulling trash to boss for funnel, slayer arms is better.

The best answer is just to talk with the tank before you start the dungeon and ask him if he is pulling trash into boss for funnel. if he says yes, then colo is fine. if he says no or has no idea what you are talking about. slayer.

thick kelp
#

Physical angel comp

thick kelp
#

hold last SD untill 5s in pull count then SD and walk away

ashen arrow
#

do you mind explaining this in a little more detail like i am 5? cause first time hearing about this and it sounds really solid.

What i am understanding of that is:
So during the countdown after key is already placed. you put out target dummy toy. keep hitting it and hold SD until 5s (if multiple SD, hold last one). at 5 second, use SD and join the pull.

I for some reason thought you couldn't use target dummy toy in the dungeon while live though?

nova marsh
#

and ur gaming

sand totem
drifting sparrow
#

So for the Slayer M+ build.... Cleave > Sudden Death > OP > MS ?? If I don't have battle lord spec'd?

#

feels awkard to OP > MS

slow saddle
#

Avatar should just give u 5 stack or wtf it is imho

tranquil swift
#

When is execute used in aoe for col?

slow saddle
#

Hmm close to never

#

Sd when u can in st

hybrid canopy
#

hey friends, quick question cause i'm stupid, is the colossus buff on tuesday enough to make it always best for arms in m+?

slow saddle
#

Its the same m8

#

If u got funnel it allready is

#

Exept aa

#

Cozn 2nd birdie

tranquil swift
#

@slow saddle I’m noticing as I watch criticake now he uses it so wasn’t sure

slow saddle
#

I guess very high rage

#

But its below ms>op>

exotic horizon
#

GUys bird boss in academy . dose reflect work for the 20% on the Deafening Screech

slow saddle
#

Yes?

#

I press it at least🤣

#

Its a dot though as well aint it

gritty grove
#

If I’m in M+ Col build, do I push cleave in ST?

#

Or just slam

random wasp
#

Sorry if answer is obvious but warr is not main this season, just gearing my alt...

When does colossus arms uses cleave in 2 targets? Does slayer ever uses cleave in 2 targets? I was never pressing cleave below 3 targets but i just watched critcake do a bunch of cleaves in 2 targets as colossus

#

Lol question above mine is similar

soft peak
#

Cleave becomes a filler both specs for 2T instead of pressing slam when you dont have anything else to press

gritty grove
#

What about ST

soft peak
#

ST not at all

gritty grove
#

Cool ty

random wasp
#

I thought sweeping strikes slam was better, now i know

woven void
#

what is the name of some of the toy training dummies for slayer pre stacking called?

nova marsh
#

Realistically colo and slayer should still be close enough to be played whenever you want

hybrid canopy
nova marsh
#

Probably still play slayer in aa at least

minor gust
#

Both are still close enough you can genuinely play what you enjoy

#

If you like Colo play it in every key. If you like slayer play it in every key. You will time 22s on both specs

soft peak
#

play what you like most

#

the diff isnt BIG

hybrid canopy
#

duly noted

#

tyvm

#

arms is still better than fury overall for keys right? or not exactly on that too

soft peak
#

again same, what you like more. i have haste crit all my gear i cant play fury, depends on what you like and your gear, i dont want to get another set of gear with haste mastery or

hybrid canopy
nova marsh
#

Legit just swap out some rings

hybrid canopy
#

I ask all this like i'm ever gonna do more than weekly keys on my warrior lol

nova marsh
#

It won't be perfect but its pretty aight

hybrid canopy
#

it's just my alt but you guys in this discord are very very helpful

#

I appreciate yall

nova marsh
#

We try

hybrid canopy
minor gust
#

Warrior is in an incredibly good state in M+ right now both arms and fury and both hero specs for each are all viable and doing well

hybrid canopy
#

nice

minor gust
#

It's so close ppl constantly still ask what's better when it's just all good

nova marsh
#

I think this is best state for m+ warrior has been in....for years

minor gust
#

It is and it's not close

nova marsh
#

I think this might be the best m+ warrior had arguably ever been overall as a class

wind flicker
#

atleast its probably the most fun since a long time

nova marsh
#

Ehhh personal taste there

#

I liked df arms more

#

And I think midnight fury dosent feel good.

minor gust
#

Slayer is so much more fun in keys I refuse to play colo

flat willow
#

I love rooting myself every 20 seconds

minor gust
#

The fact they made you press demo twice as often makes it worse imo xD

flat willow
#

playing colossus arms with puzzle box is peak gaming

#

more casts than a caster, but every ability is melee

spark mango
#

idk, not everyone thinks the same, i enjoyed fyrakk legendary and demolish as it's successor

wind flicker
#

I hated fyrakk legendary because i didnt fucking loot the damn thing

spark mango
#

i love the name of demolish, how it feels, how it applies deep wounds to everyone and makes me tankier for the duration, i feel as tanky as fury on arms for first time ever

nova marsh
#

But I did loot it

#

But that grind was fucking awful

spark mango
#

if colossus was like last season where bleeds carried your single target damage, i would never change spec to anything

minor gust
#

Fyrakk legendary was fine because you pressed it like every 2 minutes. Demolish you are pressing every 15-20

nova marsh
#

I dont even mind demo

#

I mind having literally zero st

minor gust
#

Only time I actually enjoyed demo was S3 TWW that's because demo actually hit as hard as it was supposed to

#

That button was a nuke in S3 so it was actually rewarding

nova marsh
#

Like ffs even in the df seasons we used cleave and lost a crapton of st for it felt better

dim basalt
#

Col ST isnt that bad anymore

dim basalt
#

80k is more than fine imo

nova marsh
#

Yeah now that they've buffed it 20 times

spark mango
#

i was giving up on doing priory 18, i was fury back then, i changed to colossus arms and timed it, i think i was the first arms to time it back then

#

then i tried it in floodgate aswell it felt much better than fury, but fury RB spam Spin was also crazy back then

#

right now i don't see much comeptition for colossus arms

latent moss
#

yeah it just does

#

3 trillion % more prio dmg than fury

#

and aoe

#

wcyd

spark mango
#

what i hate about pugging with slarms is how much i have to look at my hp constantly

#

and ironically the dungeons you want to play slarms in, are the ones that hurt the most

minor gust
spark mango
#

MT and skyreach

minor gust
dim basalt
minor gust
#

You can easily play Colo in those dungeons if you wanted

#

You don't have to play slarms anywhere

dim basalt
#

Col is defo way better in MT

spark mango
#

first,second,last boss slayer does more

#

even gemellus with a bad tank

minor gust
#

Doesn't really matter

dim basalt
#

ye but more than enough aoe in that dungeon for col to shine

minor gust
#

Not gonna be why you don't time the key

dim basalt
#

And often you pull a 2nd mob on first boss

#

So col > Slayer

spark mango
#

in my humble opinion what is mostly holding colossus back is the timer on colossal might

#

at least its hurting me a lot in pug keys

dim basalt
#

ye it sucks

minor gust
#

I'm saying this as the prophet of slarms you can play both specs in every dungeons saying this is better here this is better there kinda pointless

#

Because both are just that good

spark mango
#

i lose my apex and colossal might on crawth in AA

#

idk what other class suffers that much of dps loss from roleplay

#

maybe outlaw holding jackpot and waiting for bird to land, not even that i guess

#

colossal might needs to be longer for real

minor gust
#

Real

spark mango
#

sometimes i lose it to healer drinking mana

#

and tank asking healer for premission to pull where healer also takes his sweet time to respond

minor gust
#

They can't design a new spec like ddh where nothing falls off and then make our spec have 2 sub 30 sec long buffs that we need

#

Gg

spark mango
#

and it falls off after killing each boss in windrunner spire

#

i legit compete with tank on last boss of spire as colossus

#

no funnel, no stacks, low uptime

silent saddle
#

question, if I haven't gotten a mythic trinket yet, should I be crafting one? since it'd be a 10 ilvl upgrade. I'm not sure what's the best to craft and there's not much daata around them. bloodmallet says Darkmoon Dominion: Hunt is best

spark mango
#

erm

#

how is that possible with all these bonus loot?

silent saddle
#

war is pretty new

#

used 8 voidcore rolls in Pit of Saron then used 2 more on Gaze

#

no luck yet

thick kelp
#

so dont craft trink

silent saddle
#

aaah it does, okay

#

even this one?

spark mango
#

if i make a new character for arms i wont even go near pit. i mean nexus rings sim higher anyway

#

and its not the end if your weapon is not crit haste

dim basalt
#

Pit has like 6 very good items wdym

#

Not going pit with a new character is straight grief

silent saddle
dim basalt
#

The bonus from the NPX rings is pretty neglectable

ionic mica
#

pit is the way, its 6/7 ideal items

#

way better bang for your buck on a fresh guy with bonus rolls

#

you can go roll for NPX set later with the rest of the bonus rolls

spark mango
silent saddle
#

for sure, but yeah forget the question because all the trinkets are embellished

minor gust
spark mango
#

i rather craft crit haste neck on new character rather than using pit one

#

and pit ring will be replaced by NPX set

ionic mica
#

in ST

#

not in keys

#

or +/- same same in keys

silent saddle
#

yeah I'm full keys

minor gust
#

If you play Colo in keys you don't want npx rings

ionic mica
#

even in raid there are so many adds it really doesnt matter if you are pit ring or npx set

#

youd rather get basically guaranteed success on your first 6-7 rolls

silent saddle
#

here's gearset after like 10 days of gearing lol

#

the catchup is insane right now

#

making alts is finally easy

spark mango
#

change your rings enchants brother

#

go eyes of the eagle

minor gust
#

-10 for tmog

silent saddle
#

sims said crit /shrug

silent saddle
spark mango
#

fuck me, i can't belive you dont sim higher with eyes of the eagle

silent saddle
#

I'll have to re-run it now that I just got Heart of Wind

outer holly
#

Would you rather sim well or see big Crit?

#

The real question

spark mango
#

i think this one you just go with eyes of the eagle

#

you are stacking crit, and each time you crit you do 4% more damge

outer holly
#

Well it's S1

#

Flat stats just do more rn

ionic mica
#

eyes of the eagle was already best before it got 100% buff xD

minor gust
#

As you get gear eyes of the eagle will sim more

spark mango
#

i'll get shoulder and npx set with 3 bonus rolls on wenseday and i'm done with this character

clever crag
#

these gloves do not sim better than normal for me

thick kelp
#

missing lura ring

#

not done

tough tangle
silent saddle
#

haha thank you

#

best part is that the axe is called "Nightfall" and is from Vanilla

#

and the title "of the Nightfall" is from last expac

cosmic pecan
#

does anyone use /cast ! whatever spell you want i saw for spinning crane kick it makes it have 0 delay when you spam it

latent moss
#

@minor gust sorry colo owns too much i forgot how fun it was

minor gust
#

TRAITOR

latent moss
#

i fw both...

#

290.5 finally

astral yarrow
#

we have no abilities that would require logic like it

latent moss
#

daily reminder aaagaard

#

u cursed slayer in tww with sd weakaura

minor gust
#

kaching

astral yarrow
#

yeah i still tjhink its pretty funny

#

i doubt it in reality had anything to do with the simplification

minor gust
#

it def did when it came to slayer imo

latent moss
#

it played a very large part in removing jugg for sure

#

cause in theory jugg is kinda cool

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like in df i didnt mind it at all

astral yarrow
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i think the bigger part of that was the design choice to let SD stack

latent moss
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i mean sure but remember how annoying

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1 stack sd was in df s3

astral yarrow
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it makes sense from a vibes perspective, but just so abusable

latent moss
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u would just get 2 in a row and lose a stack

astral yarrow
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ye

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sd was highest priority in every single situation as far as i remember

latent moss
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yep

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it was insane dmg but also losing a stack was a huge loss

latent moss
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wtf colo sim 8t 1min

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need mastery ig

minor gust
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slurp slurp

latent moss
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vorasius ring evil

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i have like

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9 trillion crit

minor gust
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very normal for colo

left shard
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Do i use mortal strike too often?

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was a +20 MT

latent moss
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no such thing as using ms too often as colo

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u ms oncd

left shard
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im dumb

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i meant overpowerr

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not mortal strike

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do i overpower too often

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cuz i thought mortal strike schould be on top

silent saddle
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well overpower is going to cleave mobs, MS is just to get your demolish back

latent moss
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overpower is the direct damage and dreadnaught

left shard
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cuz i feel like i cant peak high numbers like the others do im talking about 400-600k

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im always on 400 or below

latent moss
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npx 2set and crit gems

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in aoe

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sussy

minor gust
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good ol simming for M+

latent moss
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ig i just need mastery

minor gust
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just gonna get random shit every sim

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cba

latent moss
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i mean im rolling npx anyway

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want 2set for raid and need legs

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i have crafted atm

minor gust
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want em for slayer 🙂

latent moss
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truth nuke

stable fiber
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(i was playing fdk)

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that spec is so fun icl

onyx gust
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Which weapon is best for warrior? and no sim dont help me with choice. I seen a lot of differents weapon as bis. PoS weapon Voidcore paladins weapon itp

latent moss
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pit weapon probably

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gives u the stats u want

tropic crest
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guys is there an addon which sound for cast on you?

latent moss
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u can get mastery elsewhere

onyx gust
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aslo addon Tell me When still exist? and work?

tropic crest
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i need something like the castonyou WA, it was so good

onyx gust
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gotta work on haste somewhere i think

latent moss
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sim it

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24% is not low at all

gilded turret
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hey guys, quick question. with slayer m+ do we hold BS until CS in both ST and AoE?

gilded turret
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thanks. I also see in peoples logs that avatar is being used after CS (shortly) is this just a log bug or is there a reason to macro them in that order?

brazen sun
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no need to macro them . you just use it shortly after CS

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you dont need to think too much about it . isnt a big deal

west oracle
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Hey everyone, is there an alignment of avatar, BS and CS we should aim for ? Specially with algethar box

wild fractal
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do you use demolish without cs ?

tepid hull
upbeat frost
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whats up with the cleave not going off when pressed? is there any workaround?

scarlet garnet
wild fractal
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what are the best keys for colo and slayer ?

onyx gust
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pos?

woven void
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is there another good item like the turnip punching bag to place down to pre stack slayer buffs before key?

scarlet garnet
woven void
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thanks will look into it

lament plank
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What opener do we use in M+?

broken jolt
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Cs used to give 3 cleaves with no cd

lament plank
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Gotcha, thank you.

potent fractal
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if you dont have the rage to do 4 cleaves are you filling with overpower till you get 3 cleaves

edgy sinew
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hey short question. do we ever use cleave on 2 targets?

nova marsh
nova marsh
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And in that rare instance probably

edgy sinew
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@nova marsh ty

tranquil swift
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so even in opening pull we cleave 3x mortal to get the 10 stack then use it?

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i saw crit cake just send it off the rip with the little stacks he has

summer shore
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I feel like the more i care less about getting to 10 stacks actually get me better damage.

minor gust
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real answer is it really just doesnt matter

minor gust
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cant speak for Crit but hes likely just doing it feels more enjoyable to play not thinking about stacks just press the demo button after cs no thinky get on cd so you can press it again

wind hatch
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i am going to try a 21 sr as colossus clueless

tepid hull
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The DPS between Demo with CS and no CS with the latest CD reduction on it is small at best

minor gust
wind hatch
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my AA is still at a 15 lmao

minor gust
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Holy friends advantage! Doing a 21 with a 15 AA you can't do that!

wind hatch
minor gust
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xD

sand totem
nova marsh
wind hatch
nova marsh
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Ooooofff

wind hatch
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devourer accidentally pulled extra dread raven and got 1 shot

nova marsh
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Death spiral after?

wind hatch
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yeah

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if somebody dies on that first pull you just fall short on damage and die

nova marsh
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Sounds about right