arms

[fiery inlet]

if ur guild doesnt struggle and u still go aoe thats a bit paddy imo

[halcyon valve]

Unless bladestorm happens to align with the small orbs spawning i dont bother doing much aoe

Ranged issue imo

[rare kite]

Ngl if small orbs are a problem you go fury. Arms is boss killer

[fiery inlet]

Yeah this

[balmy kindle]

Thanks I will see if it's a problem or not, thane is better yeah for fury

[spring vale]

guys, tier boots are kinda good too no?

crit haste

[feral breach]

Yes

[spring vale]

huge

[austere solar]

No pure mono, orbs are supposed to die before they manage to be at cleave range of salad bar.

[balmy kindle]

Big orbs are ok, but small orbs can be problematic cause we tend to lose people

[clever crag]

Whats the arms bis st sim ?

My fury is way ahead even with crit/haste gear

[latent moss]

117 ish

i think?

[dim basalt]

Yeah should be around that

[clever crag]

Im like 109 I think

[clever crag]

Is that the wowhead bis or different

[latent moss]

idk its just what ive seen 🥄 warriors send here and some sims i ran

considering im at 114-115k with 2 sockets missing and no npx 2set and 290

i doubt it goes higher than 117k

[sacred zodiac]

is that with vantus

[latent moss]

ofc

[sacred zodiac]

you should probably mention that

[latent moss]

idk everyone is simming with it

[clever crag]

Ahhh

So mine is prolly higher

[dim basalt]

Vantus is like 3 to 4k

[latent moss]

^

[clever crag]

Crazy

[sacred zodiac]

its vaguely reasonable to sim with vantus because you are likely? to use reck

[dim basalt]

fuck reck

[latent moss]

why does it make a difference

[sacred zodiac]

me when i just want to do less damage for no reason i guess

[latent moss]

reck will drop vers even if its 0

[sacred zodiac]

what can you have negative vers

[latent moss]

no

it just stays at 0

[sacred zodiac]

ye so if ur vantussing then it kinda matters

[latent moss]

ye

[clever crag]

So you go LP with vantus ?

[sacred zodiac]

most ppl dont have any vers

[sacred zodiac]

no you probably still reck

[clever crag]

I have 30 vers otherwise

[sacred zodiac]

sim it tho noob

[clever crag]

Im at work

[latent moss]

reck very powerful

as long as it never procs haste

finally got rid of

crafted weapon

imagine if i got weap and belt in first 2 runs

instead of having to take bonus roll

i kinda have to keep bonussing

for npx

surely i get 1 good vault this season

[dim basalt]

I have the pos belt with leech in my bags I wasnt able to use yet because of embellishment

But I honestly cba farming crests just for that

[sacred zodiac]

wow twinsies!

[latent moss]

ye i took socket week 1

and crafted belt to socket it

[sacred zodiac]

cant wait to bonus roll the ring i need last and then start bonus rolling seat

[latent moss]

noob..

shouldve crafted wrists...

but i had 276 socketed

so i didnt want to

[sacred zodiac]

i vision crafted wrist and cloak because i knew my warrior wont see prog anymore

👍

[latent moss]

xdd

i had 0 vault luck but

my rolls in pugs

were insane

[sacred zodiac]

dont have to make prog crafts if u dont see prog

[latent moss]

aside from mythic heart

rolling 20

and losing to bdk

👍

got it in vault so its all good

[dim basalt]

Took me forever to get mythic heart but when I finally won it I got it with avoidance

[latent moss]

i just wanted ilvl early for keys

[fresh spire]

Got mythic heart week we started mythic lura

[latent moss]

gg

[fresh spire]

First one to drop

[dim basalt]

lmao

[fresh spire]

Also got mythic plume from coin the day before

[dim basalt]

I also just got mine last week

Together with myth gaze

Finally no guidon as Slayer

[latent moss]

i coined chim 2 weeks in a row

thakn god

[clever crag]

I got 17% speed

From gear lol

[latent moss]

i got heart same week from vault

and gaze on my 2nd roll

bro imagine

first coin right

chest drop

s

i roll 86 win it

coin and get it again

grrr

[clever crag]

Do you play the Seat gloves ?

[latent moss]

u dont wanna know what i did

for early ilvl

[sacred zodiac]

i coined gaze and the pug that i got it from dropped tier plate chest (that i lost to a paladin that already had the same slot max upgrade) that i got extored 50k for

got avoidance for so shrug

[latent moss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845318240745160775/1049754429735313429/unknown-3-1.gif

[sacred zodiac]

ideally that or the windrunner spire gloves

im team seat gloves since your only purpose on this world is st

[latent moss]

raid bla bla bal

arent spire gloves just better

same st more aoe

[sacred zodiac]

maybe if you manipulate the sims to say what you want

[latent moss]

ofc

always manipulate sims

[sacred zodiac]

ams

[dim basalt]

Flashbacks to when my old guildie farmed seat 40+ times to get the gloves while half his gear was champ track

[feral breach]

[dim basalt]

Hes a ret / (ranged) hunter player

Checks out

[feral breach]

I guess ret stands for something else then

[fresh spire]

Kinda insane when there is like 15 items there

Bonus rolls are op and badass

No more 8 keys. Comfy farmr item you want

[spark mango]

god

i hate druid tanks

i hope they get nerfed soon

[upper sparrow]

that is some luck you have there

[hasty pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/brazil-brazilian-cat-cat-cat-dance-ai-gif-1710031518734066474

[dim basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-electric-shock-pigman-electrocuted-electric-gif-13739997527188393816

[soft peak]

whats the best lookin mount to buy with the saddle

[feral breach]

I took the inferno drago flight thing

Was very close to the eternal version

[steep jay]

That pig above your message. Epic flying mount.

[fresh spire]

There is a magical pig mount right

[spark mango]

Druid tanks wait for you to use Cs on 2 mobs, then pull 10, they keep backpedalin to finish line

sigh

[feral breach]

"oh your cds all expired. Letz pull some more"

[spark mango]

i have this problem only with druid tanks, they constantly moving, i'm constantly changing angle for cleave

[feral breach]

well my tank is a druid aswell, so i guess i am in a similar boat

[spark mango]

its a very annoying boat

[lofty fulcrum]

Is there a way you could squeeze more dmg on first pack of AA as slayer arms, I’m trying to prog all 20s, and I feel like if I do well on the first pack, I can get a very good overall, but I always fall short and my overall looks like 170k or 180k by the end of the dungeon, but I’m doing absolute tank dmg first pack

[soft peak]

why are there parses for dungeons, wtf are you parsing xd

[flat willow]

Druids don't know how to play

Not just tank druids

Having a healer druid in windrunner makes it impossible

Cuz they just die on emberdawn

I think they are legally obligated to run in the tornadoes

[spark mango]

thats a very single target dungeon, and on first pack you need to focus lashers, you can carry your group with St damage as slayer

[pastel grotto]

Prestack ID and move on tank for maximum uptime also pray for SD procs

[spring vale]

This was genuinely good advice. Ive been getting cucked on first pull of AA cause I dont stand on tank and when the green aoes spawn I lose gcds here and there

Didnt think stacking on tank would solve it lol

[finite creek]

Fresh arms war, where is our best place to spend bonus rolls

[ionic mica]

pit

all items apart from the cloak are big

[finite creek]

Thanks @ionic mica

[mortal crag]

well

resi21

indabag

@latent moss the way to do it is just time keys off stream

[slow saddle]

Gj!!!!

Stuck at 18 here. Lack of network and time

Also skill🤣🤣

[mortal crag]

id say time

is the least limiting factor

if u have a group

also i think SR and AA are the only real slayer keys

colo still pumps better on the rest, u just have to adapt

BUT u can time 21s slayer any key

sent slayer on almost all of them

[slow saddle]

I pug

[mortal crag]

ur probs better off sending slayer on all then

[slow saddle]

So times the biggest factor

[slow saddle]

Tbf col arms is just insane

[slow saddle]

When they carry u

[mortal crag]

180 overall skyreach 21

did parry skip

[slow saddle]

Col?

[mortal crag]

works like a charm

slayer

[slow saddle]

Parry skip what?

[mortal crag]

after 3rd boss

if i did reflects last boss id probs be 190k

tbf

but never tried it

[mortal crag]

elemental+bladetalon

[spring vale]

bro when the tank knows and they pull extra shit everywhere so you can keep abusing Fervor of Battle, or in like Pit when they are on point moving the boss so you can perma 2target on Ick and Krick

[slow saddle]

I feel the epeni grow when i get that

My only key i got that 18 pit.

Was so fast man

[midnight mural]

Would love to try that but somehow when i tell people before key, that i will taunt reflect last boss, tell them before last boss, macro a yell "TAUNT REFLECT - DONT KICK" to my taunt, they kick it 💀 legit had 7 minutes for last boss in 21 the other day, and the first two reflect attempts got kicked, the third one i taunted like 1,5 sec before and the tank taunted back immediately not kicking hardest thing to do confirmed. Also tried it SO many times in magisters with the pyromancers pyroblast - INSTA kicked

[frail sky]

guys do we have any rend/ss use reminders?

[spring vale]

bro i bet it feels good as fuck being in comms in a key and telling your mates "dont kick this bolt, I'll reflect it"

[midnight mural]

Sometimes with premade they kick it anyway just so fuck with me

[spring vale]

🚬

[mortal crag]

i think with magisters pyroblast it doesnt matter as much

u funnel it anyway

[mortal crag]

it doesnt

because they kick it

then its even worse

cuz they kick on comms

[upper sparrow]

can you pre-cast puzzlebox before the key starts and get two uses?

[midnight mural]

It does 10% of the mobs hp 😄 MY DAMAGE !

[burnt gale]

What is the best way to sim for dungeons? Dungeon Slice set to 3 mins? Is there guidance on this posted in a place I couldn't find?

[thick kelp]

yeah if you search in this discord this question gets asked around 20 times a day

You will find answers like this

patchwerk -> select target count -> fight duration -> click sim

[spring vale]

dk discord has instructions on how to set up dungeoun route but idk if thats supported for war

if its ok to link it I can

[dim basalt]

Wont work for war

[spring vale]

ah

[dim basalt]

Youre probably talking about MDT

[spring vale]

yeah it does involve mdt imports

but still uses quicksim to generate an html report

it gets recommended all the time when people ask how to sim aoe for uhdk

[dim basalt]

Im 99% sure it needs to be maintained in some way as well

[spring vale]

aw

[thick kelp]

Yes it would need the APL to have specific lines about enemies dying

which is a never ending cycle

[rain cipher]

which is better for +19 pit? colossus or slayer?

[thick kelp]

colossus

[soft peak]

what a productive day

[brazen sun]

colossus espically is you guys get monk tank

[upper sparrow]

can you pre-cast puzzlebox before the key starts and get two uses?

[rain cipher]

druid tank and monk healer

[brazen sun]

tell healer to incap

the G44

[rancid willow]

Test it

[brazen sun]

and pull smalls with boss for funnel

you will blast as arms colossus

[upper sparrow]

theres gotta be SOME puzzlebox enjoyers that know already

[rain cipher]

i will discuss it with the tank.. i think he should do that

[ashen night]

what do peeps use for dragonhawk funnel in ws? the other 2 hawks?

[ionic mica]

not sure but probably the 2 groundskeepers on the side

as the dragonhawks actually do stuff

[wicked pagoda]

3 min cds and up reset

so no

[flat spear]

So if we dont get a good amount of sudden death procs, we dont parse well?

[sudden owl]

ehhh

[flat spear]

i only got 9 in a 3min fight on Imperator

[dim basalt]

Happens

[sudden owl]

For mythic you can get orange with good play regardless of rng I think if you're on the gear curve

It feels a lot worse than it actually is I think

If you're going for r1s tho u probably need rng to be at least above average

[flat spear]

biggest problem i see with that is i dont have bladestorm at times of adds

or its late

[sudden owl]

I think that's just the fight, if your tanks are holding the adds close enough to cleave executes that matters more than bladestorm being up for them. They take forever to get grouped up in my raid anyway and I still do good on that fight

[slow saddle]

Nah

Arms is so extremely dependant on strat

So requires the entire raid grp to play well

[halcyon valve]

Real

[sudden owl]

Is there a lot of strat variation? Tank positioning the adds/bosses is a big deal in a lot of fights but even with yikes tank positioning you can do well

[slow saddle]

U cant parse purple

On 1st 2nd 3rd boss heck 4th

In voidspire

[sudden owl]

I disagree

Dragons is really bad though if you don't have 2/3 blood dks you can't do very well there

[slow saddle]

1st boss u get no cleave

And w ddhs

Gl

2nd boss u get send 2 narnia to kill adds 2 give space

3rd boss tanks move early or balls die 2 fast

U loose out on a lot of dmg

Dragons they grip behind for rsnge

Its legit 2 x dmg if u get cleave even in st build

[sudden owl]

1st boss if your tanks keep mobs close enough to sweep you don't need to do good pad damage to parse, just sweep executes

2nd boss just go full st build and leap out when they're stacked for a few executes, kinda rng dependant fight since it's mostly single target and the adds clump randomly but you can definitely get purple

[slow saddle]

They dont

[tropic crest]

For real. On first boss we have so much ranged damage that many adds doesn’t even reach the big add.
To parse something decent I had to play slayer 2T cleave build

[slow saddle]

2nd boss again yes, but that again deviates from gen prog strat

[sudden owl]

3rd there is no universe where tanks in any other guild do it as uniquely bad as my tanks, ignore the little orbs if you're arms and focus on 2t execute sweeping with the big orbs

[lunar idol]

Yo everyone! I'm looking for an image that was posted yesterday or the day before showing the priority breakdown for the Slayer build in M+. It had the ST, 2-target cleave and 3+ AoE prios. Anyone know where to find it? 🙏

[slow saddle]

1 + 2 exe

[sudden owl]

And 4th we have 1 blood dk and it isn't on all-star so I have never cared, parsing on that boss isn't for me

[tropic crest]

On 2nd you don’t need adds to parse. You just cleave the cleavable on 2nd add wave but play full ST. I had 14 world parse last week without PI.

[slow saddle]

Well fast kill higher parse. And yes

If u are allowed 2 hug boss

[sudden owl]

yeah it's a single target fight disguised as an add fight, if your guild really needs you to contribute on the first set wait until the last minute to go help

If you get one on you, unlucky

[slow saddle]

Yea, ww havent cleared it in ages ngl

[tropic crest]

Y melees turn on adds 1st phase only if neeeded

[slow saddle]

Wasnt like that in prog

[tropic crest]

And it’s not needed xD

[slow saddle]

For guild with shabby range

[tropic crest]

Sure sure

[slow saddle]

Im always thinkin parsin as in doin raid strat

Not card blanche 2 parse

Only fun fight so far

Paladins

[tropic crest]

On king we go very good with cleave. To parse big you need a bit of luck with the last little add spawn. If you have full CDs up you pad on big pack of little orbs and parse fly

[sudden owl]

Paladins is also really dependant on your tanks tbh

[slow saddle]

Yeah

But on paladins u want em stacked

And raid gets punished for em not being

Not just poor warrior

[sudden owl]

I parse big on that fight and never go pad on the little guys, it probably helps tho. Ours just aren't stacked they are unironically all over the entire room for the last set

[tropic crest]

Y i got it one sec

[slow saddle]

If u get loads of orb exe

[sudden owl]

yep that's what it's all about, sweep as many executes as u can

Because we are so bad at positioning the orbs I probably have higher uptime on 2 targets than most lol

[mortal crag]

QUICK 1SHOT

IT BE LIKE THTA

QUICK N EASY

[slow saddle]

Col?

240... deffo col🤣

[mortal crag]

oh yeah

ofc

82k last boss

[slow saddle]

How so?

[mortal crag]

i got blessed on rng

[slow saddle]

U just that good

[mortal crag]

i got

only 1

debuff

2nd boss

LULW

entire 4min

[mortal crag]

wym?

[slow saddle]

Just lucl

[tropic crest]

🔥🔥🔥

[flat willow]

82k as colo st absolute pumper

[mortal crag]

yeah on the 21 i did 85k i think?

not sure

or 83k

i sim 85k lulw

but its just procs really

with MS

[tropic crest]

Yea i mean there is not much you can do to push lot more dps on Colo ST. You get procs or you don’t. End 😂

[wicked pagoda]

do we need more vers for like 21 and up keys?

Im kinda just dying in some spots

[upper sparrow]

whats the secret to good parses in Magisters Terrace? i usuallly blue/purple parse but I keep grey parsing in here. 16/17 level

ran a 16 and got 83 like four days ago. now ive ran two 17s and got 19 and 15

WHAT IS HAPPENING

[slow saddle]

Dstance + dbts + sr

Ignore key parses

[rose matrix]

dstance with stance mastery basically makes you a god

[upper sparrow]

but i like colorful numbers

grey is ugly

[rose matrix]

Also if you're pugging you can just ignore key parses anyways

Not sure if that is the case

[upper sparrow]

ye

[wicked pagoda]

Drop barbaric training for it?

[slow saddle]

Wdym

We drop ms 1 i think

[clever crag]

Same for slayer st

Or slayer aoe

SD procs are your life

[slow saddle]

Slayer when good procs

Is fuckin mad st

Then u get no procs and get starved

[rose matrix]

My main issue with Arms right now is how bad it feels without Shaman

It is pretty dumb how much a class buff impacts our damage and the way it feels to play

[clever crag]

Yeah without shaman you will stare at your rage bar alot

[spring vale]

Shaman buff is just fucking ridiculous

Its like a 10% for ret bc of crusading strikes AA

Idk how much it is for assa rogue but prob pretty big as well

[rose matrix]

Not sure how it is for those specs but Arms feels like trash without it

It's not even about the damage

[clever crag]

On short fights SD rng is your parse tho

100%

[mortal crag]

u drop crushing force for stance

[thorn stream]

You didn’t play sub rogue in tww then

[urban jasper]

Are the male orc sound bugs fixed? Can I finally log back onto my Warri?

[tropic crest]

One of most important thing on slayer is to pool rage before opening cds on exe phase

POOOOL

[vale cradle]

No pool i gotta press button

[soft peak]

mythic chim, slayer or col?

chinesse are using col and the rest i see using slayer wtf

[latent moss]

chinese are selling parse runs

so they play colo to pad

[soft peak]

oh

[fleet goblet]

do we hav any arms pov for myth bosses?

[spark mango]

idk if critcake is arms or fury in raid this season but, i always found shirly a great source of information

[fleet goblet]

so, for suttained dmg slayer is better than col?
col is just for parsing?
I am goin to start prog on myth this week (I am not that good) and any help will be rly appretiated

[spark mango]

shirythebandit

[fleet goblet]

hes mostly arms

[latent moss]

in aoe

[fleet goblet]

but hes pov are mostly for m+

[latent moss]

colo is better than slayer

at everything

people play colo to kill adds

[spark mango]

check shirly

[latent moss]

since in parse runs

no one touches the adds except for you

[fleet goblet]

I know that, but for boss prog what would u recommend?

[latent moss]

slayer apart from paladins

[fleet goblet]

got it

so that parses are mostly paid padding?

[latent moss]

yes

[slow saddle]

Shirley if u wanna parse🤣🤣, always does degen shit

[latent moss]

leap cs ava bladestorm on small adds on salhadaar

while boss is 4% hp

[slow saddle]

Yup

Same tac on vora leap center bladestorm them fackas

[desert briar]

Guys what addon do you use, so you dont forget to switch back to battlestance?

[latent moss]

defensive stance reminder

[desert briar]

ty

[gentle gyro]

Yeah..... Surely Next week....

[paper glen]

How tf do I do single target damage. My warrior alt is like 270 ilvl, doing around 85k overall in a +10, and that's not super impressive but it's whatever. My biggest concern is I'm at like 40k on bosses and my friends are bullying me

[latent moss]

are u playing

colossus

[paper glen]

Yes

[latent moss]

sounds like u are

well thats ur problem

play slayer

[paper glen]

I'm playing the recommended m+ build (I thought?)

[latent moss]

colossus has no st

u need adds to funnel onto the boss

slayer just does good st

[paper glen]

Oh ok, I'll have to give it a shot

Does slayer suffer a lot in trash?

[dim basalt]

In lower keys not really

[gentle gyro]

Idk somehow it's even worse in Slayer for me

SD never procs, no reap

[paper glen]

Since the guides recommended colo for m+, do you happen to have a link to the slayer build you would recommend I try?

[latent moss]

wowhead

has it

[paper glen]

Ok thanks. I thought it recommended colo but I'll look again. Appreciate the help slayers

https://tenor.com/view/ready-to-slay-buffy-lets-do-this-slayer-slaying-the-day-gif-14373568020127511796

[slow saddle]

Tbh in 18s no

U still do good funnel and prio dmg

Aoe is ofc not col

[icy mulch]

Not to burst the Arms bubble, but Fury is very competitive with Arms if not better in some scenarios. Good aoe and decent ST.
Now with my Sims Col Arms was the best pure 5 target, but Thane fury was not that far behind 10-15k but that much better in ST. It was also very very close to Slayer ST, while being better in AoE. (Still can't believe Blizzard shot Slayer so hard this season).
That said, Fury requires less knowledge from your tank, so if you pug, Fury maybe the better play.

[hard juniper]

Ignore the thane sims. 0 prio damage isnt realistic at all. MAYBE if youre playing like with a ret pally and ass rogue, but at least for me its been colosus everywhere but SR and AA, then the two specs in slayer are pretty even imo. Arms probably a better profile, but fury is immortal

At least imo

[flat willow]

if you play slayer every key yeah why not play fury

but i've never seen a fury or a slayer arms do anywhere near a col dmg overall

[hard juniper]

Yeah, some keys require a lot more coordination than others for funnel, in those/pugs ill play a lot of slayer fury even if col is potentially better. But nothing is competing with col in pit/caverns/seat

[dim basalt]

Col Arms is just as immortal

Pretty much

[hard juniper]

Idk i feel like I use dstance a lot more as arms than fury. Last night I just ate the beams on 2nd boss 21 SR no problem

[hybrid needle]

You got more HP as fury and 10% passive DR with warpaint

[hard juniper]

Fury feels immune to any type of ticking damage

[hybrid needle]

sooo.. yes

[dim basalt]

And the demo debuff has a super high uptime and is also 10%

Plus you have wall as Arms

[hard juniper]

You run ER as fury

Both feel fine. Just feelycraft fury feels tankier to me. I play both depending on key

[nova marsh]

it's not feelsycraft

Fury is just tankier

[flat willow]

fury also just heals itself for free

so it is tankier

[latent moss]

has like

[icy mulch]

Yeah Fury is 100% more tanky. Just doesn't have the full wall of DbtS.

[latent moss]

the strongest wall in the game

[hard juniper]

Yeah, arms is similar with a lot of targets having rend on them. But in st bosses BT goes crazy and less punished pressing impending victory

[latent moss]

healer can ignore u while er is up

[icy mulch]

Yup

[sacred zodiac]

they ignore you anyways bub

[latent moss]

warrior life...

[icy mulch]

And if you do run stance mastery, it's icing on the cake. For both.

[latent moss]

which u always do

[hard juniper]

You dont run stance mastery as slury anymore

[sacred zodiac]

no one runs that bub

[minor gust]

Just play slarms if you pug

[latent moss]

not playing stancem astery

is trolling

[hard juniper]

Too much ww damage as slury. Arms and thane 100%

[latent moss]

drop crushing force?

wdym arms and thane 100%

they dont drop barbaric either

i am afraid to sim arms without barbaric

[hard juniper]

You 100% run stance mastery as arms and thane

[icy mulch]

Sadly I mostly tank keys. Mind you I haven't bothered pushing keys at all this season. No point now that it's all too easy.

[latent moss]

ye cause u drop crushing force

[hard juniper]

Yeah

[latent moss]

slurry used to drop barbaric but now u just drop crushign

[hard juniper]

As slayer fury too much damage comes from ww so you dont play stance mastery. You drop a class tree point to get ER instead.

[latent moss]

you just drop crushing force wdym

u dont drop barbaric ever as any dps warrior

arms loses infinitely more damage than slurry

if it drops barbaric

1 cleave cast is 1000000000000000000000 ww casts

[icy mulch]

You'd most likely drop Javelneer for Stance mastery.

[latent moss]

yes u drop javelineer and crushing force

[solid pendant]

Are u here mr.war?

[latent moss]

for resonant voice

and stance mastery

[dim basalt]

pls rework resonant voice

[tranquil parcel]

stupid question, do warriors stand behind mobs/bosses as much as possible to void dodging and parrying? Or is this not a thing anymore?

[latent moss]

dodging isnt

parrying is

[eager sable]

It is unfortunately very much a thing you need to do. Getting parried by M Chimaerus is actual hell

[minor gust]

Only a thing for raid bosses and certain M+ bosses

[nova marsh]

CS gets parried

(least it can't anymore)

[paper glen]

Lol imagine using two swords when one will do the trick

[woven coral]

is arms slayer or colossus doing more overall damage in keys?

[minor gust]

Flip a coin

[solid pendant]

some1 know Guergen war?

[boreal quartz]

wdym

[solid pendant]

@rancid robin mr.war are u here? 🙂

[silent saddle]

I keep meaning to ask... for two target cleave in the colossus m+ spec, are we just operating as if it's single target but keeping sweeping strikes up?

I keep wondering if I should be pressing cleave but I assume not

[calm hollow]

idk how to pull a good parse on Vaelgor, when the adds die before my demolish could even finish casting

[minor gust]

you can use cleave as a filler instead of slam at x3 collat stacks if you want, but it really doesnt matter

[sacred zodiac]

cast earlier

[safe tundra]

Pay the other add killers in your guild to not hit them that run

Or that

[calm hollow]

they get massgripped, using colo and instant demo

you cant use it earlier

[sacred zodiac]

you can tho

only the last hit is aoe shrug

if your goal is padding your ass off you gotta try harder

[calm hollow]

good luck with that, when u have 2 ddh, 2 warlock, and a hunter instantly deleting them

they are half hp at the time i could even press demo

by the 3rd swing, i maybe hit 3-4 of them, the rest are already dead

[sacred zodiac]

you can press demo on the dragons and it will hit the balls ye

[calm hollow]

not when the adds are gripped almost to ranged

if i demo dragons, they get nothing from it

tried it already

its removed from all star, so i dont really care, but its just stupid that adds even count to logs

[sacred zodiac]

why care at all if its allstar disabled then

just make reclear faster

[safe tundra]

Go for 99 boss damage

[soft peak]

im proud

[clever wave]

Slowly losing hope, slowly transitioning from fury to arms for keys

The prio is just too good

[rustic reef]

is taunt spellreflect still something that you can do on aleria ?

for the theathers in p3 ?

[brisk sedge]

welcome to the chad club

[pulsar frost]

Yes join the light side

Mr cnew

Isn't fury slaywr prio decent tho

[brisk sedge]

big pp dps only

[pulsar frost]

I do wish cleave wasnt a frontal cone

And was just aoe like furys abilities

[midnight mural]

Finally decided to racechange to nightelf.. is there a sheet somewhere that tracks what can be cheese with shadowmeld? 🙂

[latent moss]

its decent but not arms

[tranquil swift]

Is slayer arms or col better in Windrunner

Windspire or whatever it’s called lol

[latent moss]

col tp out on last boss go slayer

if ure not getting funnel

go slayer

[clever wave]

Which dungeons do you go col over slayer?

[latent moss]

u can get funnel on all but last

[reef prairie]

You can funnel like every boss in spire and slayer the last one if you want

[latent moss]

all but skyreach and aa

[reef prairie]

Prime colo dungeon

[latent moss]

if u get funnel

if u dont get funnel go slayer

[clever wave]

Oh god okay

[hasty pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372158613312897036/1376317636249518170/speechmeme.com_25_05_2025_23_54_45.gif

anlakki

[acoustic crater]

hi guys, i am new to warrior class specially arms, about the wow head build guide there is only single and multi target rotation which made me confuse cause there is different talents

[acoustic crater]

for example if u play colossus there is only multi target opener but no single target rotation and vice versa for slayer talent

[dire hinge]

On the rotation page, pick what context you're in (Single or Multi target), then use the checkbox to select which talent set you're doing
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#rotation-priority

[acoustic crater]

thanks

but i meant the opener

[dire hinge]

The "opener" section is sorta... silly tbh.
Just follow the rotation and it'll come out to be the same thing

[acoustic crater]

thanks mate

[dire hinge]

alternatively, the new redesign to Icy Veins is bit more robust for what you're asking about
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/arms-warrior-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities

[acoustic crater]

Thats exaclty what i need thank you so much

[knotty solstice]

if no desire to farm raid for trinkets, would should I am for in dung, puzzlebox and what else?

[dim basalt]

solarflare in SR

[knotty solstice]

thanks

[lone jay]

Question, when should I be using sweeping streaks?

all multi target pulls after rend?

[peak jacinth]

Keep in mind that "standard" AoE build will have "Broad Strokes", which will auto-apply SS after you use Col Smash. So don't use SS if you just used CS.

[mortal crag]

LULW

[sacred zodiac]

when will they redesign hrothmar

[mortal crag]

i never look at chinese

[hasty pumice]

im chinese

[mortal crag]

nihao

[peak jacinth]

Hopefully never. lol Hrothmar is the only reason I still read this Discord. 😉

[minor gust]

Hrothmar Ai

[dire hinge]

It’s in my contract to keep the original model

[sacred zodiac]

what do you not like @hexed saddle propaganda where fyralath is a bad item and shouldnt be sought after

[daring heron]

twitch chat assumes i am chinese

and a doctor

or developer

[dire hinge]

I’d rather you just call me a slur tbh

[sacred zodiac]

was there someone who assumed you were a farmer perhaps

of a very certain fruit

[daring heron]

oh yeah

[sacred zodiac]

wait no that was discord

[thick kelp]

doctor is close enough

[daring heron]

mango man

[sacred zodiac]

mango farmer critical strike confectionary

[thick kelp]

big mistake

[hasty pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372158613312897036/1376317636249518170/speechmeme.com_25_05_2025_23_54_45.gif

[rare kite]

One day he will flame someone. I am waiting

[rustic reef]

I thought I was being cheeky by jumpin on theathers to the next platform on first theathers

(dont do that you will get knocked up in the gap)

[paper onyx]

Hey all, is there a haste breakpoint I should be paying attention to? I'm at 28% rn

[candid garden]

Im pretty much full bis except i need gaze on mythic

I dont do guilds but holy moly pugging this is so painful

[minor gust]

Okay then clanker

[wind hatch]

no specific stat breakpoints you need just sim your gear

[dire hinge]

never ai can rot in hell

[paper onyx]

okay. I figure it will go into mastery instead of just crit haste?

[dire hinge]

Just use Raidbots and sim gear as you get access to it, dont ever chase specific stats, it's a bit of a fools errand

Arms like all stats in various amounts, so trying to guess which is best for you is unnecessary, just run a sim 🙂

[hasty pumice]

@latent moss

rolled the wrong ring in nexus gg

at least my fury is close to bis now ig

still

gotta snipe the nexus ring for arms

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-mad-cat-mad-gif-617855691051511206

guys what the fuck is he on

[stable fiber]

who up hitting they target dummies

[ebon tendon]

im up dummying my targets

[stable fiber]

oh shit i was just doing this

[hasty pumice]

target dummies on warrior with silvermoon ping is

so shit

no shammy buff is also giga rip

[stable fiber]

my ping in silvermoon is fine

[hasty pumice]

i swear I hate doing target dummies on arms

it feels so dog

[dire hinge]

we're not built for 5min of sustained AoE, we're bursty 😭

[hasty pumice]

but we are

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-5273247718297236208

[dire hinge]

cweave cweave cweave cweave

[hasty pumice]

our burst is way lower than many other specs but our sustained is huge

tho with good rng

good shit can happen

[wind flicker]

I mean our burst isnt BAD either tbh

[hasty pumice]

like on a first BL pull if you get good stacks first and double demolish

you can peak above 700k now

[rose matrix]

I wouldn't call arms bursty at all

[sand totem]

I mean it feels pretty good to get 5 stack of our apex and pretend to be a burst spec lmao

[rose matrix]

I mean not even close to being bursty

Quite the opposite for the most part

[ionic mica]

it feels bursty if you dont play any burst specs xD

warrior is a marathon runner not a sprinter

[hexed saddle]

i never said this

[sacred zodiac]

canadian liar

[spring vale]

gamers anyone got the spell reflectable stuff for this season handy?

[upper sparrow]

Calling arms bursty is wild

[spring vale]

I wanna know if death bolt in pit of saron is reflect-able

[ionic mica]

it is

and its pinned in prot channel

[spring vale]

huge

[ionic mica]

maxroll link

[spring vale]

ty ty

reflecting death bolt prob juicy af

[ionic mica]

good luck getting anyone to let you reflect it tho!

its insane damage

[spring vale]

they were trying to let me but people's instincts kick in and just interrupt it last second haha

i dont blame them that shit vaporizes anyone if its not interrupted

[ionic mica]

i feel like its such a long cast even if people audibly confirm reflect in voice they forget and panic kick at the end

[spring vale]

basically haha

[fiery monolith]

Is having 2 crafted pieces always preferred over max lvl myth track, like if the embellishments are superior to the +4ilvl you lose

[spring vale]

as long as the embellishments are on low stat budget pieces like cloak/bracers then yea

[fiery monolith]

Okay nice, thanks!

[sand totem]

Me in every pit i do with my guild. Audibly confirm no kick.

Then a kick in the last .5 seconds lmao

[dire hinge]

you can also have two target you and you deflect the mini bolt and the death one one shots you

[onyx gust]

is it worth to use puzzle box middile of fight? like in raid or mythic + boss

[dire hinge]

if you have it absolutely

[wintry scroll]

guys does aug not buff arms

[dire hinge]

line it up with your Avatar/CS

[wintry scroll]

i feel like i do same dmmg with or without

[pulsar frost]

It does

[onyx gust]

when i have only puzzle still worth it?

[wintry scroll]

I do 200k overall in AA normally and i joined with an aug

and did same

slightly more but nothing crazy

[dire hinge]

If you have an On-Use trinket equipped (such as Puzzlebox) it's assumed you'll use it multiple times throughout a raid boss, not just at the start. A lot of on-uses's power is in actually using it. For puzzlebox, just align it with your next CS+Avatar for big damage

[wintry scroll]

What is 1% for warriors now ?

3800 ?

[onyx gust]

Thanks man

[hoary helm]

actually like colo how you damage in boss single target?. so low....

[onyx gust]

also what % should i have in crit and haste? idk whats my goal

[wintry scroll]

Colo only shines when the tank acknowledges that you are colo and pulls accordingly

[wintry scroll]

Just use gear that has crit haste

The more the better

[hoary helm]

but i want to play colo i like so much

[wintry scroll]

U can play it

But st won’t be there unless the tank pulls adds with bosses

[hoary helm]

ye

[wintry scroll]

I’d rather play slayer and carry keys than expect a pug tank to pull for colo

Most of them are braindead

And bosses are the key breakers

[onyx gust]

is it like prebis or something?

[wintry scroll]

It is good but bis i think is the 2 rings from npx

For on hit effect*

[onyx gust]

is it that good?

i have 1 piece of it equped

[wintry scroll]

It is more dmmg in my case

I simmed with that same ring u showed

And the combination was more dmmg

[ionic mica]

for single target yes the NPX ring set is big

[onyx gust]

im playing mostly ST

playing slayer in m+ i still more effi than colo

[ionic mica]

i basically just have the NPX rings and then Pit or Vorasius ring and swap if im doing raid vs keys

[wintry scroll]

Colo is bis in every key

Other than AA

[ionic mica]

keeping on the crit NPX ring ofc

[wintry scroll]

But your tank will have to be good

Colo is tank dependant on bosses especially in m+

[onyx gust]

i like slayer playstyle

even when im doing less Overall

[wintry scroll]

Slayer is great too

So if u’re just on 20’s and less slayer can be played everywhere and it’s more than enough

[onyx gust]

Lovely thanks guys

Ive been looking for warrior discord for so long

glad i found it

[wintry scroll]

Ngl this is the best class discord

[onyx gust]

First of all what i have to craft is weapon right?

since im still gearing

[wintry scroll]

I’d say craft after spending ur rolls

On +10’s

Best place to start is pit of sauron

Full of crit haste bis items

[onyx gust]

yeah ill try it

i did 6 of them

only ring drop

[wintry scroll]

Pit has wpn

Tier slots

And belt

And neck

The only shit is cloak

Which is the one that i got this week after rolling 😭 🙏

[onyx gust]

icy veins changed ui? lmao

[wintry scroll]

I use wowhead ngl

Icyveins is usually wrong

[onyx gust]

same guide from same dude

[wintry scroll]

Or out of date

[onyx gust]

icy veins archimitros and in wowhead

[stable fiber]

this is m+ bis if you cant get l'ura ring on mythic

[onyx gust]

thanks

[stable fiber]

raid bis is 2x npx rings

[onyx gust]

second ring is? for m+

[wintry scroll]

Icy veins has the wrong talents for m+ slayer

[stable fiber]

crit haste ring from npx

[onyx gust]

ah so i just swap 1 ring

thats good

[stable fiber]

yeah

and then gloves are crit haste gloves

i just crafted mine cause i dont have the wrs gloves on myth track

[wintry scroll]

If im not mistaken after the update we now cs into demolish then sweep spam right ?

Bcz wowhead is showing otherwise and im doubting myself

[onyx gust]

270 ilvl is enough for heroic or no?

pug still decline me XD

[upper sparrow]

Yes but there’s 451,283 ppl at 280+ rn

[onyx gust]

where did u get that number

[upper sparrow]

made it up

[onyx gust]

ah

make sense

[dire hinge]

@fresh spire do you want to share with the class the cursed shit you just found or should I

[fresh spire]

😢

[dire hinge]

[crisp cedar]

very random question but with cleave, if you are far away ish from a pack is there a chance you only hit the first few mobs or does it hit all if you hit 1?

[dire hinge]

it has a range yes, you can come up short, but it's pretty long

same goes for Demolish

[crisp cedar]

noted first time playing a melee dps so im deffo chucking a few cleaves out of range

hmm so when the tank jogs of as you hit demolish

its a bad day

[dire hinge]

you can maintain your Demolish channel by using Heroic Leap. As long as mobs are in range when the channel finishes it'll hit

also Demo has a 10yd range or something now its nice

[crisp cedar]

woah that is some tech

ive been using it to not get killed

whilst demolishing but i guess ive accidentally done that 2 then

[fresh spire]

someone else reported it but looking into it the culprit has been found.

When you have high amounts of haste casting execute back to back will case the second one to not gain a stack of Executioner's precision due to EP having an internal ICD of 1 second.
Sims replicate this exactly how it would happen in game

when doing execute rotation unless your rage capping, if you are in bloodlust or above 60% haste consider weaving OP/Execute to prevent this from happening.
execute execute op ms
execute op execute ms etc
Sims also have this working exactly how it is working in games so sims are still accurate though real world situations like lusting late in to Lura will also be impacted in same way.

Rank 1 Lura log did execute execute op ms for the full 40 seconds of lust execute and didn't hit 2 stacks of EP a single time. (pretty fucked up)
(haste flasks are banned as its enough to cause this issue just from bladestorm's haste buff)

[dire hinge]

in other words

[safe tundra]

thats insane LOl

[dire hinge]

you lose out on significant mortal strike damage if you get good SD procs

[hasty pumice]

well now I at least know why I dont sometimes get the EP shit

[calm hollow]

what the actual fuck, so i wasnt trippin' when i thought i pressed exe 2 times and still had 1 stack

[thorn stream]

And I thought I was lagging

[wintry turret]

mornin fellas :)

[fresh spire]

in my current gear at 26% haste, if i bladestorm im :020 of a second off being able to lose EP stacks, it's pretty monka

[dire hinge]

exactly, i assumed it was because I (or the target) moved before the GCD ended (a real thing that causes Execute to cast, but miss)

but no, genuinely munching procs

[thorn stream]

Oh boy

Looking forward to next season when we get even more haste

[rare kite]

think that part got fixed in tww sometime

[fresh spire]

Would imagine Archi will chase this up as it's pretty bruh and somewhat gamebreaking, can understand them adding an internal CD with them changing it over to a buff from debuff to prevent things like Sweep giving 2 stacks, they just need to match the ICD with sweeps second hit to prevent it while now actually fucking over haste.
this likely explains why crit has become such a monster and haste falls off hard

[wintry turret]

got a question i'd just like to shoot into the room: do y'all sim in any way for mt/m+ content?

[onyx gust]

sometimes in my rotation i hit that point when i cant click anything. Im doing something wrong? or is it normal

[rare kite]

nah i only sim st

[wintry turret]

i feel like simming st for gems/enchants etc and just assuming similar weights apply for m+ should be enough

[dire hinge]

m+ simming is an imperfect science and easy to overthink. You can do a multi-target patchwerk sim and make an educated guess compared to a single target sim. Do long/short sims, do as many as you want, but as Mutou mentioned just doing a single target sim is perfectly fine too.

[wintry turret]

yee m+ sims do be like that :) alright, just wanted to get the gist of a few people, tyvm

[calm hollow]

bro i'm so cooked

[fresh spire]

i forgot to mention haste flask (they are banned unless you acually have 0 haste)
trying to work out the haste treshold where it starts to happen

[calm hollow]

i have to crit flask for recklessness pot, so that part will be fine

[umbral badger]

hey guys how is arms warrior looking now for beloren egg phase, still trash ?

[cobalt isle]

Is slayer or Colossus easier to play in m+ and is there any significant overall dmg difference?

[dire hinge]

Slayer is usually easier and damage wise they do about the same overall.
Slayer does more boss damage, Colossus does more trash damage.

[cobalt isle]

Ok ty!

And if I pug keys where tanks don't pull extra on to boss, then it might just be worse to play Colossus?

[dire hinge]

you can take a look at recent arms parses (per difficulty) here compared to other specs
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/46?boss=3182

[dire hinge]

you make up for it by absolutely blasting on trash, honestly do a couple of keys as both and see what you enjoy more

[umbral badger]

ty ty as i play much less at this point i get rusty with al lthis data shit i lose interest fast xd

[dire hinge]

but you asked for data shit

🪞

in all seriousness, arms is fine, play it and have fun 🎉

[umbral badger]

yup, need leads after all xd

[cobalt isle]

I've done Colossus so far. Quick question on it: do I always want Colossus smash with demolish or I always demolish when ready and 10 stacks (aside from first pull)? And if I don't have avatar or demolish, do I hold Colossus smash for when one of those are up?

[dire hinge]

the safest approach is to hold other major cooldowns (Avatar/Ravager/Demolish) for your next Colossus Smash (CS). Think of CS as your checkpoint to use other cooldowns. This applies to Slayer with Bladestorm as well.

One note: They recently made Demolish cooldown upwards of 2x faster than CS, so sometimes you can get a Demolish in between CS casts (ie: CS+Demoilsh -> build stacks -> Demo -> build stacks -> CS+Demo again), but it depends on how fast trash is dying around you and how much downtime you have.

When in doubt, just save for the next CS, unless you're getting Demo back really quickly.

[white gale]

5 tips for a one-trick fury trying to jump on arms for m-paladins?

[calm hollow]

checked some logs and seems to be it should hit the adds like you said, so next raid i will try it again, not sure why it didnt work last time i tried, i wonder what is the range it can hit

[cobalt isle]

Thank you! That's very helpful

[spring vale]

man its rough tryna pug 10s just to roll on the weapon

i might have to craft a one hander and a shield and sign up as tank til i get arms weap

[sand totem]

cleave is your best friend.

[stable fiber]

does this change the rotation at all past a haste breakpoint (below 1s gcd haste breakpoint i guess), feel like affording 3 executes back to back to back seems very hard

feel like you just play the same because the rage cost is far too high and you prob play around 4pc

[dire hinge]

Well look into it further this week and see what the impact is

[dire hinge]

Remember that Colossus Smash gives you Sweeping Strikes. Do not cast Sweeping Strikes if you’re about to cast Colossus Smash because youll munch your ability to do AoE

Mash cleave when they’re all together, you do more damage at 3 target or higher with Cleave

[minor gust]

Holy that's cooked af

[white gale]

i need a "Rend fell off" airhorn, dont i

[calm hollow]

you cant even press 2 exe in a row, with a certain haste

[tranquil swift]

when simming is there a way i can just sim it to tell me what i could use thats better? or do i have to put an item against another item?

[calm hollow]

Droptimizer

[tranquil swift]

clutch thank you azrakan!

[calm hollow]

np!

[shadow osprey]

Just play thane because your tank will 100% int you

[white gale]

in what regard?

[shadow osprey]

Your tank moves 1 or 2 of them while you demolish or smash

You can play around it by watching timers and what not and maybe your tanks are consistent in not making micro adjustments or whatever. So do what feels right and what you trust. It's just my opinion.

[ripe field]

That isn't your tank inting you, bud. I mean it may be in your case, but in all cases they will have to be split due to fight mechanics

You will regularly colo smash, demolish 2 targets in that fight

there will often be windows of 3 target

but the fight just has to be 2 target as well

If youre holding CDs for windows of 3 target you are severely fucking that fight up

[balmy kindle]

You can set up such cues on cdm

[white gale]

Yeah i think i found "When pandemic = guitar riff"

[weary compass]

what is the priority in 2-target cleave with colossus (assuming SS is up)

[hybrid needle]

Same as ST

[spring vale]

You do still send cleaves when Collateral Damage is stacked up right, in 2T?

[ripe field]

if MS and OP are on cooldown, yes

[balmy kindle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QmCNYhLxVv8rPp7c?fight=34&type=damage-done

Timed 18 SR with cursed build if anyone's interested in how viable it is

[spring vale]

dam I went to full pity in pit of saron for the 2h weapon

[peak mica]

Yea I got the 2her on the last possible roll

[dire hinge]

saaame

[spring vale]

its ok at least pit kind of a banger dungeon to throw rolls in

only the cape is "bad"

which i guess it can be a fine cape when playing prot idk

crit vers

[sharp flame]

is everyone going full ST on lura or is anyone cheesing some dmg with cleave on crystals?

[balmy kindle]

ST, the most you can "pad" Is on the crystals with bladestorm

[white gale]

is something other than Slam consuming my heroic Strike proc? i keep seeing it dissapear without me hitting it, quickly.

[dire hinge]

Cleave will if it hits 3+ targets

[white gale]

aaaaaah yeah

thats value

[dire hinge]

Fervor of Battle sends out a free Slam (which is also Heroic Strike) and makes it do 50% more damage

never press Heroic Strike itself in AoE, always consume it with Cleave

[spring vale]

its always worth waiting the cd to send it via Cleave right, even if you have to send an overpower or something else in the meantime?

[dire hinge]

in AoE (3+) just dont worry about Heroic Strike and follow the Cleave/OP/MS rotation instead

[spring vale]

noted noted ty

[dire hinge]

that's why its not listed on the rotation

[ebon tendon]

i was absolutely cranking tn on beloran prog, fucked up on pull adjusting my chair, and got first soak absolute worst pull of my life and its the kill pull >.>

[dire hinge]

eeeevery time

[ripe field]

yeap, i feel that

[ebon tendon]

i literally said when i got the soak "welp this is kill im gonna kms" and we killed it

[ripe field]

we have a guy in our guild - it cannot be the kill pull unless he dies randomly

we always kill then lol

[ebon tendon]

"every time you crash out we get a kill "

[dire hinge]

it's always the one where our tank goes down and i taunt/DBTS to hold briefly, die, tank pops back up and we kill it

[spark mango]

guys

do we also have something for falling on last boss of skyrech?

[dire hinge]

you can technically heroic leap back onto the platform, but it's risky

[spark mango]

idk, i have it on mouseover and i spammed it but couldnt get it

[ebon tendon]

sitting in first for all 50 pulls

[dire hinge]

i've gotten it a few times, its really finicky

[ebon tendon]

dumped on for kill

[dire hinge]

but to my knowledge othing for immuning it. It still targets you mid-jump

[ebon tendon]

if you bladestorm w/ that bird carrying you does it drop you

or do you bladestorm in the air

[dire hinge]

ah, im a colossus girly so that makes sense

[ebon tendon]

THAT WAS A QUESTION NOT A STATEMENT DONT TRUST ME

[dire hinge]

ope i misread it 😂 didn't see does it

[ebon tendon]

hahahaha

[spring vale]

like the skyreach bird?

i know the bat in pit drops you if you start bladestorming, havent tried skyreach though, probably not though?

[nova marsh]

The answer is just get lucky with leap or charge (charge only if your tank cooperates)

Tbh charge is probably easier

[balmy kindle]

Hmm tried dracythr glide but it's kinda risky

Higher keys a mistake= brick, not worth

[lament plank]

When would you say the best time for PB is before CS?

[glass plank]

hii ! quick question ! .. for AOE massacre build ...2 EP + CS ..should u MS ?

[rare kite]

wtff is PB

[lament plank]

Puzzle box lol

[rare kite]

oh just before cs yeah

[minor gust]

best time for puzzle box is to unequip that trash

but yeah before your cds

[lament plank]

Yeah I don't really have anything better atm xd

[balmy kindle]

Only in war discord , I got so much flak in guild for dropping PB in vault 3 times

[untold cedar]

Quick question afte reading the guides posted here.

Should I only be using Bladestorm during Colossus Smash debuff under all circumstances?

[ripe field]

hold for cs

[rare kite]

yes, unless it will literally be the last bladestorm possible. like if the boss has 1% hp and you don't have cs. tho that is a very niche scenario

in raid that is or final m+ boss

[hybrid needle]

The only reason to NOT bladestorm during CS is a specific one:
You dont expect any more adds to kill within the next ~1min and are currently in an aoe Situationen where cs wont be back up

[untold cedar]

Gotcha, thanks

[solemn turret]

Someone would be available to check on m'y logs as arms, feel ok in m+ but il absolutely dogshit in raid

[dire hinge]

just post em over in #1347646810457636974

[tranquil swift]

hey timed a 18 MC with 5 min left not too shabby huh

[cold cargo]

Anyone know how to get a tiny bit better logs in pugs? Or 99s without augs / pis barely doable?

Currently only hitting 97/98s trying to min max to perfection

and only 2 99s so far :/

[hybrid needle]

Flame anyone who takes your pad damage away

Augs wouldnt do anything for you since the extra calculated damage is being thrown into their account, not yours

[cold cargo]

so only pocket pis or better padding xd

[rare kite]

you don't get better logs with augs. it counts as their damage

[tranquil swift]

Col does more than thane fury right?

In m+

[cold cargo]

in AOE yes

Fury has a very flat dmg profile

U will mostly just do consistent dmg, no burst or whatsoever and u‘re aoe capped

With Slayer fury ur priority dmg is fine but col arms still beats it

only pure ST is hell

tbh if u are only doing keys with Pugs u will have a better time with Slayer arms or Fury

[tranquil swift]

I do play with a tank friend who knows I like funnel

I think thane fury is boring

I’ve been trying slayer arms lately and it’s fun and seems to still do good damage

[clever crag]

How the f do you get 95+ parses as arms jeez

[cold cargo]

I like Slayer Fury more as well, I mainly run Slarms now tho

[clever crag]

Getting 99s in hc but cant break oranges in mythic

[cold cargo]

The 97 parses on my Arms are like 80 on my DK

:,)

[clever crag]

Fuck dk

[cold cargo]

yea but just shows how ass arms is in raid

[tranquil swift]

I mean I run slayer arms not fury sorry lol. Too much button mashing on fury hurts my wrist over time I have bad posture lmao

Fury don’t help

[clever crag]

Not on vanguard hehe

We progging that rn and the dmg is nasty

[cold cargo]

True that, on 3 target cleave its insane

did 210 overall last time I did it without the 298 weapon

[rare kite]

only boss that matters where arms is ass is crown. rest arms is pretty decent, decent on bird and decent on lura

[cold cargo]

Havent done past first 3 on mythic yet got no guild and the ID Lock is a stupid ass mechanic

[cold cargo]

Yea but still, on Imperator my 97 Log is less DPS overall than 80 Logs on DK, Ret, Outlaw

kinda sad

All warrior specs kinda feel meh to play atm, only one really fun is Slayer Arma for me personally atm

Havent tried Slayer Fury yet as my stats are completely wrong for that

but Thane and Colossus arent that fun imo

[rare kite]

yea and on paladins it's the opposite. just the way it is

[clever crag]

Nah I think slayer is fun for both

Colo is fun

Just thane kinda sucks

Its fun on dragons hc tho lol

I just wish there was some 99 parser who puts all his kills on yt

[cold cargo]

Havent tried yet, looks fun tho

But im full crit haste

[clever crag]

Cuz theres some pad or something Im missing

[cold cargo]

so i kinda have to stick to Arms now

[clever crag]

Our kills arent that slow

[clever crag]

Same

[cold cargo]

Warrior also kinda lacks some visual umpf if u get what I mean

Like shaman big burst

Is looking so majestic

And so powerful

[vestal smelt]

I'm pretty certain that there is something buggy about the Crucible trinket in sims. It is simming better than like 90% of 298 trinkets. I look on bloodmallet and it's not supposed to be as good as what my sims are telling me they are for 1-5 targets

[cold cargo]

And the biggest umpf we got for warrior is

demolish

which also doesnt feel like a heavy giga slam that its supposed to be

[pulsar frost]

Its a very good trinket with a very good uptime. Only downside is its a champ trink

[vestal smelt]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iYb1iDRmRm5BGB7tjL6uzS

[pulsar frost]

Lots of other specs are the same way

[vestal smelt]

https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/arms/trinkets/castingpatchwerk5

Well one of these is wrong tbh

[pulsar frost]

Only time you really replace it is myrh heart or gazw

[cold cargo]

wtf is void stalkers contract

[pulsar frost]

I dont use blood mallet. Heard it snot as good from folks so idk

Also

[clever crag]

Naaah

[pulsar frost]

Hooks second best trinket??

[clever crag]

Warrior is the most class

Always

[cold cargo]

Isnt HoW + Solarflare goodv

[vestal smelt]

Prettttyy sure the site gets it's data from raidbots and jsut compiles it in a list

[pulsar frost]

Idk man that list shows that hook is better then heart

[cold cargo]

Yes but idk the hits dont feel as powerful as they COULD be u know?

[pulsar frost]

And hearts considered our second bis. Maybe behind plume

[cold cargo]

Like u a mighty ass warrior

[pulsar frost]

If you only do dungeons and no raids sure. But its gaze and heart from vora thats bis

Or plume

[clever crag]

In pvp

It surely does

[cold cargo]

true that

[clever crag]

Execute chunks ppl as slayer

[cold cargo]

champions spear also a cool af ability imo

[cold cargo]

prolly better than that contract he simmed

[vestal smelt]

I do not step foot into raid, so unfortunately I have 2 trinkets that are decent to choose from and one of them refuses to drop (puzzlebox)

[clever crag]

Yeah 100%

[cold cargo]

box for arms?

[clever crag]

i didnt like it when it was blue but now its cool

[pulsar frost]

Then its judt puzzle box. Heart of wind and or solar

Id pick wind and solar imo

[cold cargo]

Go for Solarflare + HoW